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MotoGP Germany 2025 Round 11 Recap in S5 Ep 14 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Welcome to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45. It's Monday night.
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  We got the crew in the building. We got Lewis, we got Reese, we
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  got TJ. What's going on, fellas?
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  How's everyone doing? We'll start with TJ.
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  Doing good, man. We had a a nice summer, a hot
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  weekend, good weather, a lot of racing everywhere.
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  I mean club racing, you know, Moto American, Moto GP won Super
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  Bike. So it's good to see it all and
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  it's hard to get it all in. But overall, there we go.
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  We kind of racing nice. Nice.
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  That's what's up. Reece and Lewis, you guys were
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  out in Cali. Reece, how was your Well, I, I
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  from the podium standpoint, you had a great weekend, but how are
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  things man? I mean, I can't complain, man.
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  It was a good weekend. Long weekend, three races, you
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  know, for the weekend is a lot, takes a lot out of everybody,
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  the crew and the team before we're all, you know, getting
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  podiums both time, all three times, actually getting on the
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  podium all three times is it's a great success there for us.
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  I mean, we'll take it, right? Right.
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  Should I give you my address so you can send that bonus money
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  this way? I got a wife that's going to say
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  should go look at you like, hey. No, not necessarily.
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  Lewis was good, man. You out there as well?
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  How are things, man? It was good.
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  It was good. The the weekend was good, the
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  weather was great, the turn out was great.
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  So you know, can't really complain.
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  The the, the results were really good overall.
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  You know, a lot of a lot of guys that I cheer for were on the
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  podium in different classes at different steps.
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  But All in all, it was a really successful weekend.
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  And, you know, we'll talk about it more, but you know, events
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  wise and attendance wise, it was a really good event for Moto
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  America. Yeah, yeah.
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  Well, let's start there. Let's talk about the the
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  attendance. And since you guys were there
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  and I was watching and TJ was watching, you know, you guys can
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  talk about it. You know, I, I, we had talked
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  about what Wisconsin was like and the attendance there and how
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  crazy that was. And it sound like this was
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  another great weekend. So what are your thoughts on the
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  attendance? How was that for you, Reese?
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  I mean, overall, I mean, it seemed like the attendance is
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  great. I mean, Lou can probably
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  speculate in the more than I can because he was, I know around
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  more, But from what I what I could see in the paddock and
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  walk around to the, you know, to the truck.
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  I mean, it seemed overall it seemed great.
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  I mean, we had a lot of guys, a lot of fans on the grid walk, on
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  the Pat on the Paddock walk and a lot of VI PS out there.
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  So I mean, it for it seemed like overall, I mean, I actually
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  walked up to the Corkscrew one time and the Corkscrew was
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  actually kind of packed. So I mean, it was seems like
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  overall it was a great, great time out for them.
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  Like I don't think they complain.
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  I think they had about 1000 people on a parade lab doing a
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  parade lab with Wayne Raney. So that's a lie.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I missed the numbers
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  guy. I mean, is this the kind of
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  numbers you like to see? Well, I mean, let me start by
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  saying that the one big factor that again brought a lot of the
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  crowd was the baggers were there.
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  And you know, I know people who don't like to hear, but facts
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  are facts, man. The baggers were there.
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  Harley-Davidson had a huge, huge set up.
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  There were demo rides for a bunch of different manufacturers
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  and the parking lot was full. And you know, a lot of the bikes
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  that were out there, big percentage were not sport bikes.
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  So, you know, I, I don't kind of poo poo on that because if we
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  can get people out, whether they're racing baggers or
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  hooligans or bicycles, whatever it is to get them out, get them
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  out. But you know that it was, it was
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  packed. I will say that like the parking
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  lot was packed, the bike area was packed.
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  Getting in and out was real interesting, especially on
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  Saturday because of the parade lap.
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  The way they kind of set up the parade lap is if you were in the
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  infield, getting out of the infield, you had to wait for the
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  entire parade lap to go by and there was just a line going
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  around the entire parking lot of people that would just want to
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  do 1 parade lap. But you know, other than that,
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  man, I, you know, I, it's cool to see like these people get
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  this opportunity to ride their bikes, even do 1 slow lap or
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  parade lap around Ludu Gunaseka. You, I know for a fact as people
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  are going up that hill on a, you know, 900 LB Harley-Davidson,
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  like they might, they have a smile from ear to ear 'cause
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  they're like, oh, I'm going to go down the roller coaster.
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  And then they get up there and they're like, oh shit.
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  I'm sure they had like a little bit of a oh shit moment at the
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  top of the hill 'cause it's not your normal little hill.
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  So I was actually looking at the Corkscrew, not hoping anything
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  happens, but anticipating somebody's going to eat shit.
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  But luckily like they actually had a police officer at the top
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  of the hill, like actually slowing people down.
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  So nobody tried to like back in a bagger and end up in the Kitty
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  litter. So it was.
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  It was good though, man, it was a good time.
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  Do you do you think that the Bagger series is going to help
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  our Harley with their numbers a lot and and hopefully put them
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  on in the black? No, I mean there's Harley needs
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  some internal business restructuring more so than just
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  the baggers. The baggers are great because
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  it's American, Americana type racing like this is something
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  that their core fan base can get behind.
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  But for Hardy to get out of the doldrum they're in, it's more of
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  a internal management restructuring.
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  I mean, I think they've had a bunch of different C level
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  executives come in and go out over the past 5-6 years and they
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  just need like a really good C level CEOCMO that knows the
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  industry but is not kind of so narrow minded within the
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  industry, like not so doesn't have so much tonal vision.
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  You have to know your customer, your Harley-Davidson core
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  customer is this particular person, but you also have to
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  understand that that particular core customer is very small and
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  you know, a lot of the customers are aging out.
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  And so Harley has to kind of go back to basics.
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  They have to build a motorcycle that's sub 8000 bucks to get
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  like a new rider interested in it.
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  Because again, if you have to get if a new rider has to go out
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  of pocket 15 grand for Harley, like it's not easy for a new
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  rider to be like, Oh man, I got to you know, I want it Harley as
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  my first bike, but you know, 1516 thousand this Kawasaki
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  Vulcan looks really good. You know, so Harley just has to
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  do a lot of high level business restructuring, put the right
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  people in the right place, go back to their core, make their
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  money off what they make their money off of Brandon
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  Harley-Davidson apparel. You know, having people inside
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  that Harley-Davidson Echosphere where like everything is Harley
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  related. It's like you buy Apple product,
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  you buy Apple product and then you got to buy this other Apple
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  product because you buy that other Apple product.
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  It works great with this Apple product and Harley's the same
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  way you buy a Harley. But then I got to buy a Harley
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  jacket. I got to buy Harley gloves and I
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  got to buy Harley this and there's going to be a Harley
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  bike man. I got to go and all of a sudden,
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  like that's how you kind of and they lost that for a while
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  because they didn't have that right people in place.
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  But I think they, the team they put together now looks like they
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  know what they're doing. And it's going to take a little
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  while, but I think within the next like 2436 months, Carly
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  will be able to start turning it around a little bit.
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  Got you. I got a question for both you
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  and Reese. As far as the the attendance I
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  saw Josh Herron said he sold out of all his merch over the week
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  in attendance to do you guys at Yamaha looking at that saying
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  having similar things to your riders as far as them selling
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  merchants, how's that looking with them selling merch?
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  And then is Dainese kind of looking at, you know, what the
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  tenants is looking like and seeing what's happening, trying
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  to see how you know we may we see a Dainese Harley suit.
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  I'll let you answer first. I mean, I mean just be
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  speculating. I mean talking to the some of
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  the the upper management in Yamaha, I mean, we take notice
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  to, you know, some of the guys, the teams selling merch.
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  I mean, I brought it up it it gives the fan, I mean a lot of
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  fans that come in, they actually want they want a piece of their
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  brand, whether it's Yamaha, Honda, you know, Suzuki,
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  whatever it is. They want a piece of their
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  brand, especially their favorite writer.
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  They just want a something to piece.
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  I mean, it's a lot of times we can't even as as crew, you can't
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  even leave none of your stuff out because it's going to walk
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  away. It's going to walk away.
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  It's gone. You got to put it up, put it up
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  and put it away from somewhere because it's not as on.
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  But I mean, we do take notice of that.
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  I mean, it has been taking notice.
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  I mean, it's kind of getting worked on right now.
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  I mean, it's all up to upper management to see how see where
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  it can go. And I mean, I, I speculated to
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  them. I mean, it's a good thing
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  because when fans come to race, like I said, they just want a
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  piece and that's what they want. They want to take someone home
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  with them saying I've been here, I met this rider and you know, I
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  got it. I got his T-shirt.
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  You know, that's what they want. They want something.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah, on my end, I mean, for the
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  riders themselves, I'm actually trying to get work with a
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  company just to help the riders kind of build their own merch
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  and be able to put some money in their pocket, because building
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  merch on your own is is not easy.
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  I mean, it's a pretty big investment for some of these
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  guys that don't have deep pockets to do it.
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  And then selling at a detract, that's a whole other investment
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  because now you have to pay somebody at the track to be
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  working the booth all weekend. So what we're doing with some of
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  our riders is we're working with this company.
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  The company will make the products for the riders.
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  And the riders will just have like a little QR code on their
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  suits. And if you want some of the
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  merch from the rider, you just scan the QR code on their suits.
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  It'll take you directly to their website.
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  You can order it, it'll get shipped right to your house.
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  And that way you can support the rider because a big percentage
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  of that goes to the riders, a very small percentage goes to
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  making the product in the back end.
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  And this is like something that we worked out with this company
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  And I, you know, it's very important for me for the riders
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  to see a significant chunk of change for everything that their
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  name or their numbers on. And so far we've got a few
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  riders in the program and we're going to, you know, try to get
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  more riders. But again, the other piece of
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  that is some of the teams, depending on what you sign with
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  the team, the team now owns your name, your number.
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  So you can't make, you can't even make money on your own name
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  or number. The team has to make money on
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  it. And if the team doesn't want to
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  make the shirts, then there's no additional income.
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  And if they do, they keep the income because, well, I'm paying
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  you. And this is like one of these
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  weird things where I'm telling a lot of these riders,
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  unfortunately, most of these guys are their own managers or
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  their mom and dads are their managers.
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  And a lot of them are not business savvy.
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  And they're just so happy to be getting paid for their son or
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  their, you know, to, to ride a motorcycle that they'll sign
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  some of these contracts that when you really dig into them,
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  it's like, it's great. You're getting paid.
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  You don't have to pay their, you know, but like this is an
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  opportunity that you're missing here.
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  This is an opportunity that you're missing here.
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  And even within the contract, sometimes there's pieces that
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  are missing that why don't you have this in here for your for
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  your kid? Why don't you have this in here
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  for your kid? You know, and again, it's, it's
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  great because if you came from nothing and you're getting paid
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  to ride a motorcycle, you think you made it.
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  But the people that know sometimes are taking advantage
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  of these people that don't know and they're leaving a lot of
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  money on the table. So we're trying to work with
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  some of these riders to kind of educate them a little bit more
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  before you put your name on that, on that contract, like
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  read it, understand what you're signing, what you're getting,
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  and what you're giving away. Because if you give too much
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  away and like, it's great, hey, I'm going to make 90 grand this
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  year to ride a motorcycle and not pay.
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  But you left another 60-70 grand out there because this company
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  was willing to pay you $30,000 in contingency and this company
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  is willing to pay you 25,000. But since you signed that
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  contract, you can't do any of that.
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  Yeah, now that's a that's, that's, you know, education, you
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  know, financial literacy, you know, these are things that
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  when, when you know, that everyone had to stumble through.
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  We've heard it from Lewis Hamilton all the way down.
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  When, when, when the, you know, parents are in the business and
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  helping them. And you, you can only take them
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  so far. And, and sometimes even that
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  gets a little relationships get severed in that process of, of,
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  of, you know, letting people go and, and that stuff.
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  So it is definitely, definitely crazy, but it's cool what you
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  what you guys are doing and, and helping these writers out or
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  trying to. Let's talk about the race.
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  We'll start with TJ on this, you know, race 1.
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  You know my thoughts when I saw the end of it, I was like, man,
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  Josh might get another, you know, 3 peat.
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  But it was interesting to see what Bobby Fong was doing and
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  stuff like that. I was going to text you Reese
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  and talk trash but I figured oh wait.
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  And lucky thing I didn't, because the weekend turned out
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  pretty good for you guys, so I might have been PJ Jacobs too.
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  Soon, too soon. Too soon.
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  So, TJ, man, did you catch the race and what were your
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  thoughts? I mean, I caught more of a race
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  too, but I mean, I, I always just like Josh Heron, you know,
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  that's one of my favorite guys I've been watching since I was,
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  you know, guy getting into bikes since like 2014.
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  So just watching him do what he's doing, just very
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  impressive. So just just seeing him wins is
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  good to see. But I do also like, you know, my
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  Yamaha guys out there. I definitely grew from Barbie
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  Fong and Jake Kanye. So for what Bobby Fong was doing
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  to keep up in front, it was good to see.
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  I think it was definitely, I don't want to say it was
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  overdue, but you know, I think especially Reese, I know you
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  guys got a room for Bobby to, you know, you know, to try to
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  stay in the front of the pack and prove himself more.
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  I know he's been on different teams and like and and in the
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  past, but over I thought it was the first two races that were
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  really good. Happy for see Bobby and Jake get
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  on the podium. So that was pretty cool.
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  But yeah, I got no complaints about the weekend.
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  I thought it was really good overall.
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  I was, I also was watching some of the other guys like in the
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  Super sport class, you know how Shelton and PJ Jacobson arguing.
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  I thought it was cool bringing some some lifes for a little
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  bit. But.
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  And then there's obviously some incidents going down the court.
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  School people were getting ran over a little bit.
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  So it was a little interesting weekend and seeing the parade.
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  You know, they, they teach you in class that you know, in, in,
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  in Penguin class that, you know, if you fall, just, you know,
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  stay on the ground because you know, bikes are run over
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  something 10 inches or at least. And we we got to see it live.
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  I got ran over before on the track after I crashed.
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  So I know it's, I know it's possible, but for what's, what's
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  McCall to stay up? That was pretty, that was the
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  first time I saw somebody actually stay up after running
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  over someone. So that was pretty well to see.
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  We'll talk about that a little bit more.
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  Lewis, were you you were there in person?
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  I don't know if you saw all of the racing doing all the other
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  stuff you were doing, but what was your thought on race one?
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  Race one and super bike was really I, you know, I thought it
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  was good. You know, I wasn't a super fan
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  of the results because I, you know, there's a couple of guys
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  in that class that I cheer for more than others.
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  But you know, you got to you got to give it to Josh Herron, like
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  he was able to kind of get out in front and especially had a
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  big crash on Friday. So, you know, a lot of people
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  are like wondering, you know, how you going to come back
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  because you know, you're pretty sore the day after a crash like
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  that, whether you have an airbag, you don't have an
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  airbag, you know, breaking it. You're still sore, man.
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  You get whipped around like that.
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  Your head gets whipped around. Your neck is stretched like so
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  it was, it was good to see that even if he was hurt like he did,
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  was well enough to like be very competitive.
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  And I was hoping for slightly better results for the Yamaha
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  team. But it was a good Little Mix All
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  in all. We had, you know, a Yamaha,
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  Ducati and BMW all right there. So it was a good mix.
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  And then the first super sport race.
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  I was super surprised because you know, I, I know Blake's
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  really fast, but you know, I've talked to him a lot of times and
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  you know, sometimes I think he's getting more and more confident
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  in himself because at the beginning of the year he was
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  like, you know, he's raced the Super Sport before on the R6.
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  Now he's on the R9 and he was really competitive on the R6,
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  but now he's like, you know, I'm on the R9.
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  It's a new bike, it's a new team.
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  I have to get ready for these new things.
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  And Matt has been with this team already before, so he kind of
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  knows the dynamics of the team. And then he also starts looking
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  at the starting grid. And it's like super bike rider,
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  super ride, super bike race race winner, super bike race winner,
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  British super bike race winner, super bike race winner, factory,
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  super bike race winner Blake Davis.
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  And I said you can't look at it like that.
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  You know, you got to look at it as this is a great opportunity
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  for you to ride against hands down the fastest guys.
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  It's not you and a bunch of kids fighting each other for milk
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  money. Like now this is like
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  professional league and you got to see how good are you.
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  You know, this is how you prove how good you are.
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  And he's been mixing it up, staying in the top three,
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  staying in the top four, bunch of little podiums here and there
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  and, you know, got a win not too long ago.
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  And then he gets his win Saturday.
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  And when he got his win Saturday, when I spoke to him,
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  he actually was really confident.
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  He's like, you know, I, I actually felt good.
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  I wasn't like I was just riding like I was just going out there.
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  And and I give that a little bit of of credit that to to to his
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  coach Harvey for his because I mean, I see him sitting with him
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  for a long period of time, you know, corner by corner, looking
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  at the data, running things down, explaining to him how to
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  block people that are trying to pass him, how to block pass when
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  he passes people, how to not leave the door open.
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  And you saw in the last lap of the last race again, Camp
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  Peterson, he took a 2 1/2 foot wide R line and he made that
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  shit the size of an 18 Wheeler. Like he, he was everywhere that
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  you wanted to put your bike to try to set up a pass.
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  He made sure his bike was there. And he messed up your, your
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  inside line, your outside line. Like he made that bike 16 feet
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  wide on a 26 wide track. So it was, it was good race
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  craft. And it's good to see a, you
• 19:02
  know, a young guy like that, like literally man, like growing
• 19:05
  up right in front of you, maturing right in front of you.
• 19:08
  Yeah, and you leap some bounds because that was a pretty
• 19:11
  impressive writing that he was doing.
• 19:13
  And even in his, even when they were on the grid and he got
• 19:16
  interviewed, he felt pretty. I mean, most writers say they're
• 19:19
  going to try to win and stuff like that, but he he sounded
• 19:22
  pretty confident in that quick interview.
• 19:24
  And and like he had like he like he had a secret weapon or
• 19:27
  something. You know, I and he, he went out
• 19:29
  and did it. He had extra weight on his bike
• 19:32
  because they added a weight to the R nines for him and for
• 19:35
  Matthew because of, you know, they said that they were, you
• 19:38
  know, a little too fast. So they actually added ballast
• 19:40
  to both of the bikes. What is?
• 19:43
  What is? The his he's sponsored by like
• 19:46
  N2 track aids or something like that I think.
• 19:48
  He's with he just straight with track racing and then that's
• 19:52
  since he's with track racing, Track racing is the overall
• 19:55
  team, so everything goes through track racing.
• 19:57
  He can have his own gear and his own helmet, but then he can't
• 20:00
  really have a lot of his own personal sponsors.
• 20:03
  Everything has to kind of come through.
• 20:06
  The team. So he's got his gear sponsor for
• 20:08
  his suit, his boots, his gloves and his helmets, but everything
• 20:11
  else kind of goes through the team.
• 20:13
  Yeah, no, I really agree with you.
• 20:14
  He has been riding really well. So he's actually at the Loudon,
• 20:18
  the 100th Loudon Classic. And I remember this was back
• 20:22
  when he had the missing tooth. You know, everyone's caught him
• 20:24
  like he has it. I thought you got it.
• 20:27
  Fixed. We puts it.
• 20:29
  We puts it in for interviews. But yeah, he's been riding very
• 20:37
  well since then. I think he got third place in
• 20:39
  the classic, you know, got some money and I've been watching him
• 20:42
  since then and he has been improving.
• 20:44
  It is nice to see him get a couple of podiums, especially
• 20:48
  Matt Laguna. So, but that's cool what he can,
• 20:51
  what he can do. Like when you talk about the
• 20:52
  contracts, see your real numbers guys.
• 20:54
  So definitely want to sign something where you can benefit
• 20:59
  off of, not just just fit in the books, you know, so.
• 21:02
  Right, right, right. Reese, man, you were there in
• 21:06
  the paddock the whole weekend. What were your thoughts on race
• 21:10
  one and were you a little bit worried?
• 21:12
  I mean, I don't know how you could be worried 2nd and 3rd,
• 21:15
  but you know, we were a little bit worried.
• 21:18
  We we, you know, after race one. I mean, race one was good.
• 21:24
  I mean, you got to give it up to like it, like Lewis said, you
• 21:29
  got to give it to Josh. You know, you had a a horrendous
• 21:31
  crash Friday and they come back and and they put it on the
• 21:35
  podium, you know, and still do what he can do.
• 21:37
  It's, you know, top class and it's it's it's one of the few
• 21:41
  that can still do it. I mean, he's one of the, as we
• 21:44
  call it, the O GS out there and he can still do what he do for
• 21:49
  for, you know, I wish Bobby was a little bit more aggressive on
• 21:52
  race one. Throughout the weekend, Bobby's
• 21:57
  been the fastest and he was the fastest on Saturday.
• 22:02
  He could have beaten Josh. He just didn't want to stick it
• 22:06
  up in there on him, which I don't know why, but I mean he
• 22:09
  came back in race 2 and three and showed that he can stick it
• 22:12
  up in there. So I mean.
• 22:16
  That after race one. We gave, now we gave.
• 22:18
  We gave him some some some good ribbon after race one.
• 22:21
  We're like, yo man, if I wanted to watch the Marquez brothers,
• 22:24
  I'd be watching Moto GP. Bro you got to pass the guy.
• 22:26
  From. You can't just stay in second
• 22:28
  place and watch your brother win the race.
• 22:32
  And I said, I said man, oh, shoot, Lou, he said, yeah, I
• 22:34
  know, man. I need to be a little bit more
• 22:35
  aggressive. Said I got it.
• 22:36
  Next time, don't worry about it. I like, I hope so.
• 22:39
  And I told him, I said, hey, man, Lewis said.
• 22:41
  He ain't aggressive. He's taking his his levers back.
• 22:43
  Taking my gear back. Let's let's talk about Cam.
• 22:49
  Cam crashed. Cam crashed out and then got
• 22:53
  back on a bike and it's pretty impressive.
• 22:55
  I mean, he finished 6th overall, but you know, is this something
• 23:00
  that he he has to stop crashing, right?
• 23:02
  He got to stop finishing races. I mean, between last year and
• 23:04
  this year, you know, he's he's definitely been crashing out a
• 23:09
  lot and he he had the pace. What are your thoughts, TJ?
• 23:15
  Yeah, I mean, I mean, especially just knowing what you've been
• 23:19
  through in the past, like the expectations for a lot of people
• 23:23
  a little higher on him. But yeah, I think he definitely
• 23:26
  needs to stop crashing. I know last year there's a lot
• 23:30
  of them out of his own, but I know Laguna Seca, he's from
• 23:34
  California, so he had a lot of family attending.
• 23:36
  I don't know if that really effects how he rides.
• 23:39
  I know he's a pro, so, but if he wants to, you know, stay upfront
• 23:44
  in contention, you know, you got to get the points.
• 23:47
  You know, you got to find a way to at least finish, see the
• 23:51
  checkered flag, get some points and then go from there.
• 23:54
  I mean, just straight DNF. That's a huge loss, especially
• 23:59
  knowing how the top guys are running.
• 24:02
  You know, they're not trying to crash at all.
• 24:03
  Especially like Josh Herring, you know, Bobby and all those
• 24:06
  guys. So you know, he, he can do it.
• 24:09
  I mean, he's he's he's a, he definitely could win a
• 24:11
  championship, but I don't know how far he is now.
• 24:13
  I got to check the points but definitely needs to figure out
• 24:17
  how to stay on. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:20
  I mean, Cam is fourth in the points right now.
• 24:23
  He's like 82 points behind the leader, which is PJ.
• 24:26
  So with with the amount of rounds left like I was.
• 24:29
  I was talking about Cambodia. I thought you sold by Cam
• 24:33
  Peterson. My bad, my bad.
• 24:38
  I mean, Cambodia and Cam Peterson do about the same.
• 24:42
  They both crash a lot when they hit it and there's a lot of
• 24:45
  pressure on them to do good. So when you said one Cam, I was
• 24:49
  like, it's like talking about the same one.
• 25:00
  You know, what do you how do, how do we stop crashing race?
• 25:02
  I mean, how does that like, I mean, you know, I know you're
• 25:05
  not going to give them advice, but if you were.
• 25:10
  I mean with Cam, I mean he, he was kind of pissed off after
• 25:14
  race one. I mean, he, he said it to me.
• 25:17
  I saw him going down the paddock and I asked him what happened.
• 25:19
  He, he's like, man, just don't fucking know.
• 25:22
  He, he feels like he just told me.
• 25:25
  He just doesn't know, you know, normally he knows what happened.
• 25:29
  He's like, all right, I know what happened.
• 25:30
  I know what I did. But it's just like any writer,
• 25:33
  when they don't know what happened, it kind of confuses
• 25:35
  them. They're like, I don't know what
• 25:36
  happened. I'm trying to figure out, I want
• 25:37
  to know what happened so I can correct it, but he just couldn't
• 25:40
  figure out what happened. I mean, it's if Cam can stop
• 25:44
  crashing or stop having that misfortune or that little bit of
• 25:48
  bad luck. I mean, Cam would he'll be
• 25:50
  dominating the championship. I mean, right now he's sitting
• 25:52
  second. I checked his more, I checked
• 25:55
  before we left and I think he's 31 points back behind Josh.
• 26:01
  But I mean, he's still right there in the championship hunt.
• 26:03
  I mean, because we still got a good way to go.
• 26:05
  I mean, the top four guys are all right there.
• 26:10
  So the championship is still tight as it can be all the way
• 26:13
  through. If we could stay with the top
• 26:15
  four guys, which is probably going to be all the way through.
• 26:18
  I mean, but like Cam, I think I think when we're coming up,
• 26:22
  we're coming up to Virginia. I think Cam does a good in there
• 26:25
  in mid Ohio. I think he does good.
• 26:28
  So I think he's going to be a fourth to be wrecking with and I
• 26:31
  think he's you can see in his interview he was kind of pissed.
• 26:35
  And so I think coming these next couple rounds, I think Cam's
• 26:39
  going to be one of the guys that you got to just be aware of.
• 26:41
  He's coming. Nice, nice.
• 26:44
  And you know, the rest of the weekend Yamaha did really well,
• 26:48
  but let let's talk about Sean Dylan Kelly.
• 26:52
  What's what like? Is the Suzuki just just just an
• 26:55
  old machine and they just needed to a different manufacturing
• 27:00
  there or is it you know some rider situations?
• 27:04
  No, I mean, if you if you talk to some of the guys that are
• 27:07
  riding out with the Suzuki's, they'll tell you that the
• 27:09
  Suzuki's actually have a lot of the tracks.
• 27:12
  They have the best grip. Like a lot of the riders will
• 27:15
  tell you, like they'll follow Suzuki in and they're like, man,
• 27:19
  like you don't hear the traction control kicking in so hard for
• 27:22
  the Suzuki's, but they're pulling really well.
• 27:25
  So they've got good grips, man. They just got bad luck.
• 27:27
  I mean, when's the last time in a professional race that a chain
• 27:31
  came flying off? Larry Pecker.
• 27:35
  How long ago was that? Like 10 years?
• 27:37
  It wasn't. Recent I think it happened with
• 27:39
  Vignalas. Might have happened with
• 27:40
  Vignalas in Moto GP. Yeah, but he probably broke that
• 27:43
  link himself. He was trying to get a contract,
• 27:45
  bro, you remember that? It's possible.
• 27:54
  But yeah, but like, you rarely see stuff like that happen, you
• 27:56
  know, and then he was also battling through injury because
• 27:59
  he had a crash where he hurt his hand.
• 28:01
  So for him to be battling up front and then have a chain pop
• 28:04
  when he was like at least in the top 6, like that's just, you
• 28:08
  know, like I understand why he got pissed off when he break
• 28:10
  broke the tail section. Man.
• 28:12
  I would have like done the same. Yeah.
• 28:14
  But I don't think there's anything wrong.
• 28:16
  I mean, the M14 knows how to build bikes, they know how to
• 28:19
  build winners. They've had they've had a lot of
• 28:21
  championships and you know, the, the rumor right now in the
• 28:24
  paddock and then the ether is that for 2027, Suzuki's going to
• 28:28
  have a new lineup of motorcycles and they're going to start with
• 28:31
  the big boys. So they're going to have a brand
• 28:33
  new Gixxer 1000 and it's going to be completely revamped.
• 28:37
  And then they're going to have something for the Super sport
• 28:39
  class and they're going to, you know, so they're going to revamp
• 28:41
  their whole lineup. So you just got to push this old
• 28:43
  man along another year or so and hope that the new kid that they
• 28:47
  bring out is competitive, you know, because realistically
• 28:50
  we're they're still racing on 20 year old technology.
• 28:52
  I. Was going to say old man, more
• 28:54
  like grandpa. Dude, it is.
• 28:56
  Yeah. At this point he's sending his
• 28:58
  kids kids to college. Still love my Suzukis.
• 29:03
  I say I do too man but I know that a 2006 Suzuki and a 2017
• 29:09
  Suzuki are like 98% the same minus an IMU and somebody work.
• 29:14
  That's it. Same bullshit.
• 29:19
  So Reese, for you guys, what's the take away for the weekend?
• 29:23
  Is this a kind of like, you know, it's it's a good stepping
• 29:26
  stone going into VIR as far as you know, staying on that that
• 29:30
  number one, the first step or is it kind of like let's see what
• 29:34
  happens at VIR? No, I mean we take away, we were
• 29:37
  talking about it on race three. I mean, I mean, we got,
• 29:40
  everyone's got some good data. I think it's a good stepping
• 29:43
  stone for us. I mean, we're going into VR with
• 29:45
  some great confidence. I mean, so with Jake, I mean,
• 29:48
  everybody looks at Jake saying, oh, you know, does he still have
• 29:51
  it? But if you look at actual race
• 29:53
  three, he was running a consistent 24.
• 29:57
  And the only reason that from what we know, if something
• 30:01
  happened in the bag once SDK's chain came off, I mean, it was a
• 30:07
  bunch of oil leak back onto the bike.
• 30:11
  And Jake kind of kind of rode around it, but he had to take a
• 30:16
  little bit easy because he thought it was on his tire and
• 30:19
  he realized it was it was good to go.
• 30:21
  It was he pushed back up, but it was too late to even try to make
• 30:25
  a move and do anything like that.
• 30:27
  But he ran a consistent, he was in a consistent 24.
• 30:31
  His times were at the top three guys.
• 30:34
  So we're, we're taking a lot of confidence going into, to the
• 30:37
  next round and to a lot of data. And you know, I think I think
• 30:43
  coming into VR is going to be a little different, little
• 30:46
  different change of the change of the tide.
• 30:48
  Got you, got you before. I don't know how.
• 30:51
  I mean, I don't know, TJ, if you saw out of Twins Cup, I want to
• 30:55
  talk about that a little bit because these young kids are
• 30:57
  really fast on on a twins cup. It's like they're like, you
• 31:01
  know, 151670 year olds and then there's like 35 plus at at the
• 31:08
  back. At isn't that not, isn't it like
• 31:10
  17 to 23 or something? There's some old dudes in there.
• 31:14
  I'm like I'm I'm ready. Yeah, you can rate.
• 31:20
  You can rate for. 55 in in the Twins Cup.
• 31:23
  Really. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:24
  So I got like a couple years. I got yeah, I was going to say
• 31:26
  me and you got like 2-3 years to like get this in before we get
• 31:30
  we get the cut off now I'm not about to get my ass beaten 13
• 31:34
  year old. Sorry man, I'll keep my ass in
• 31:38
  the paddock. Well, you know it.
• 31:39
  Come on, man, you got to show up.
• 31:41
  But that's not the reason why I'm talking about.
• 31:42
  Not because I'm going racing. But you know, what are your
• 31:45
  thoughts on Chapin Avery? And I can forget.
• 31:52
  Oh, Mario. Demario.
• 31:54
  Demario, I mean those guys like I, I think he's just going to
• 31:57
  run away with it, right? Demario because he's the he's
• 32:00
  he's. He's he he technically he
• 32:02
  shouldn't be in that class. He was supposed to have a super
• 32:05
  sport ride and then it fell apart at the last moment because
• 32:09
  he was going to do double duty. He was actually going to do
• 32:11
  twins Cup to defend his plate and do super sport and a super
• 32:15
  sport thing kind of fell apart, didn't come together and he
• 32:18
  ended up doing twins and the Kramer Cup.
• 32:22
  And even in the Kramer Cup, he's kind of running away with that
• 32:24
  one as well because again, this for his age, he's at the talent
• 32:29
  level where he should be in that next class up.
• 32:31
  And it he kind of like stayed in this class because again, he
• 32:34
  wanted to defend his plate, but he had another opportunity that
• 32:37
  didn't happen. And you know, Reese will tell
• 32:39
  you, like in the motor, in the paddock, in a professional
• 32:42
  racing paddock, only 1% of promises actually ever comes
• 32:46
  true. 99% of promises never come to to fruition.
• 32:50
  And this is kind of what happened to him.
• 32:52
  So like right now he's in this place where he's like, you know,
• 32:56
  everybody like, you know, it's a little bit cockiness, but dude,
• 33:00
  I'm winning by 10 seconds. Like I'm just out here riding a
• 33:03
  track day while everybody else is racing for second and third.
• 33:06
  You know, I'm hoping somebody sees how good I am and gives me
• 33:10
  an opportunity on a different in a different class next class up
• 33:13
  because you know, I'm I'm, what am I doing here, man?
• 33:17
  Like even though I'm only 16 or 1616 years old, like I need to
• 33:21
  be in a different class. I can't, you know, I can't keep
• 33:23
  racing against these guys that I'm beaten by 10.
• 33:26
  You know, I'm lapping guys less than 8 laps into the race like
• 33:30
  it's crazy. I think he had that.
• 33:32
  I think he has a from the rumor mill.
• 33:34
  I think he has a seat over there at HSBK next year.
• 33:38
  Nah, nothing. Like I said, 99% of the promises
• 33:41
  never come to fruition man. Well, he did do it.
• 33:44
  He did do. It he did a test and then all of
• 33:47
  a sudden Cam Peterson healed up real quick.
• 33:49
  I was like, no, no, I'm good, I'm good.
• 33:50
  I'll be back next week to ride my bike, man.
• 33:52
  Don't, don't. You don't need to give that kid
• 33:53
  my bike. Can't lose your seat if you
• 34:02
  never let the kid ride your bike.
• 34:05
  Well, remember there is there was supposed to be two, there
• 34:06
  was supposed to be two riders over there this year, but the
• 34:09
  other one's here. So that's the rumor mill that
• 34:11
  that seat that's vegan. He may end up slotting in.
• 34:15
  OK, I. Mean that was the rumor.
• 34:18
  Yeah, he, he deserves, he definitely deserves a seat where
• 34:20
  he can be more competitive for sure.
• 34:22
  I mean, he's a young kid and he's and he's young kids.
• 34:25
  I mean, they're going to be coming for a lot of people's
• 34:27
  seat in the next few years. Honestly, I think there's three
• 34:31
  kids under the age of 18 right now that they're the, the future
• 34:36
  Cambodia's Jake Gonyea's of this class, man.
• 34:41
  Like they're, you know, they're the three or four kids that I
• 34:43
  see right now that I'm like these three, these 3 or 4 kids
• 34:47
  are, are, are lethal, man. I I didn't, I didn't get to
• 34:52
  watch the the Twins Cup, but I was going to say it yet it looks
• 34:56
  good seeing Mr. Matthew Chapin his second, you know, even
• 35:01
  though he did 10 seconds behind Demario, but he also had almost
• 35:06
  10 second gap within in second place.
• 35:09
  So for him winning last year and did he win?
• 35:15
  Yeah, he won last year, the Junior Cup, Junior Cup, Junior
• 35:19
  Cup and then he moved up. So I think he had potential as
• 35:24
  well. Yeah, no, for sure, man.
• 35:28
  I mean, again, if you take the Mario out of the the the series
• 35:32
  between Chapin and Hank Vosberg, which hasn't been in the series
• 35:36
  that long, like for a kid to just come in, I mean with I
• 35:40
  think he missed the first 2-3 rounds and just kind of jump in
• 35:43
  and already right at the top, you know, getting up there in
• 35:45
  the points. Like those two kids take the
• 35:47
  Mario out of it. Those two kids are like the
• 35:49
  fastest kids by far in the Twins Cup, man, by far.
• 35:53
  Like amazing young kids, man. Pretty wild to see, but let's
• 35:58
  get into Moto the GP, which is also pretty wild to see.
• 36:02
  Crazy weekend overall. I could've finished that race
• 36:05
  and the points, you know that right?
• 36:06
  I just didn't have to crash. I could've got lap 7 times.
• 36:11
  I could've leg out lap 7 times and still walk through with a
• 36:14
  couple of points. You could've crash first.
• 36:17
  You could've. That's that's the first time in
• 36:20
  a long time that I've only seen ten bikes finish a race.
• 36:24
  I'm trying to think. It's been a long time, man.
• 36:27
  It must have been a rain race. Yeah, because it has to be a
• 36:31
  rain race, but that what do you think?
• 36:33
  I mean, they started with 18 riders and, and ended with with
• 36:37
  with well after with 10. You know that that was pretty
• 36:41
  wild to see. But what are you guys thoughts
• 36:43
  on the the Sprint qualifying and and then over our weekend, we'll
• 36:47
  start with TJ. I mean, so, yeah, I mean, the,
• 36:52
  the the first time we get out there, everyone just want to see
• 36:55
  what Mark want to do. But I I feel like the practice
• 36:58
  and all that went pretty well for the Sprint with the rain
• 37:03
  coming into play. You know, we all know Mark was
• 37:07
  going to be Mark. And at this point it's it's
• 37:09
  really over. He's shown that just to show him
• 37:12
  the way his class of just even though he got to start a little
• 37:16
  bit and in the poll and to come back to take from 6th place to
• 37:21
  manage through the rain and to still get in the 1st place after
• 37:26
  just 15 laps, you know, so and you know, this just shows this
• 37:32
  is finesse and his his like how smart he is and what he knows
• 37:38
  what he has on the table right now.
• 37:40
  So he knows this is to lose. But I thought overall for the
• 37:46
  spread that Zacky being back up there was pretty cool.
• 37:50
  And I think KTM still needs some work.
• 37:53
  It was tough to see Maverick go down the way he did.
• 37:59
  So, you know, that was a little blow.
• 38:01
  And so, yeah, so that was a pipe down for them.
• 38:04
  And then especially what happened into multi deli, I
• 38:08
  don't know. Was that in the Sprint of the
• 38:09
  GP? Yeah, that was the Sprint, Yeah.
• 38:13
  Yeah. So that was that was tough to
• 38:14
  see as well, but because he was running good, but overall, you
• 38:20
  know, Mark Renew was going to take that as his king of
• 38:24
  saturated. Nice, nice.
• 38:27
  What are your thoughts? Reese?
• 38:29
  May Honda look good out there. Zarco in the qualifying, not in
• 38:31
  the race they fell back, but in qualifying there's some other
• 38:34
  brands that look good and keep them qualifying.
• 38:39
  No, I mean they look good. I mean, I got a chance to catch
• 38:41
  a little bit of the qualifying near the end.
• 38:43
  I mean, from what I saw, they look real good.
• 38:47
  You know, it's nice to see other brands up there in the top, you
• 38:50
  know, in the top place and then competing and wanting to compete
• 38:53
  and see if they can get back on the top step of the podium.
• 38:57
  So I'm kind of happy that I saw Luke Marie and, you know, Zarko
• 39:00
  and all them, you know, qualifying doing a lot better.
• 39:04
  You know, I wish they I wish it wasn't a big crash fest in the
• 39:07
  in the race and, you know, to, to see them actually compete
• 39:13
  with other, you know, brands and not just compete with 10 bikes,
• 39:17
  you know, but hey, I mean, you take advantage of what you got
• 39:20
  and, and go from there. I mean, like, you know, TJ said,
• 39:24
  I mean, at the end of the day, right now, I mean, championship
• 39:27
  is kind of over. So you're pretty much fighting
• 39:29
  for a second, third and 4th to see where you're at just to get
• 39:33
  your performance money. And I mean, that's a big
• 39:36
  paycheck for them. So Miles will just go ahead and
• 39:39
  get for it. Lewis, what are your thoughts,
• 39:44
  man? Over all over all weekend.
• 39:45
  I mean, I, I, I, I had Mark winning both races, the Sprint
• 39:50
  race when the rain came down and he had that moment and he ran
• 39:54
  wide. I was like, oh, maybe, maybe
• 39:56
  somebody else can take this one. Because in the rain, you know,
• 39:58
  it's a little bit of a equalizer.
• 40:00
  And Bez got a really good jump and, you know, Mark had to mix
• 40:04
  it a little bit to get through some of the riders.
• 40:06
  But then once he started, get into that open air.
• 40:10
  And just started putting his head down and I mean I was
• 40:14
  following him through one lap where Digi was behind him.
• 40:17
  And when the lap started Digi was only like 1 bike length
• 40:20
  behind him. And as soon as they got past the
• 40:23
  triple left handers, like Digi was like 25 bike lengths behind
• 40:26
  him. I was like this is a wrap bro.
• 40:28
  Like bro, how do you go how you get 25 bike lengths on the dude
• 40:32
  that was a bike length behind you in a series of three
• 40:36
  corners. And it's just like this when it
• 40:38
  comes to counterclockwise tracks.
• 40:40
  I looked this morning, he has like a 59% winning percentage.
• 40:44
  So if there's a counterclockwise track, he's going to win one out
• 40:48
  of every two races, more than one out of every two races.
• 40:50
  Like that's a crazy number to think about.
• 40:53
  Like this dude is going to line up at these 6 tracks because
• 40:55
  they're 6 tracks that are counterclockwise on the on the
• 40:58
  schedule and he's the chance of him winning at least four out of
• 41:02
  the six is better than the chance of anybody else winning
• 41:05
  even one out of the six. Like that's crazy bro.
• 41:08
  Make no sense. And then Sunday I kind of like,
• 41:12
  I kind of knew like if he got some, some clear air in front of
• 41:15
  him, he was going to be gone. I was surprised that his brother
• 41:18
  ended up with his brother ended up because remember, he's racing
• 41:21
  with a broken hand. And you know, that's got to be
• 41:24
  rough, man, because after a while, I don't care how much,
• 41:27
  you know, they shoot you up. So you can only numb your hands
• 41:30
  so much. You still need to feel the bars,
• 41:31
  you still need to feel the brake lever.
• 41:32
  So you're going to have to struggle through some of that
• 41:34
  pain. But lucky for him, Saxon Ring is
• 41:37
  not a heavy breaking track. So you don't have to put all
• 41:39
  that extra weight on your hands for that hard breaking zones.
• 41:42
  So he can kind of give himself like 4-5, six corners before
• 41:46
  that next heavy breaking zone, because really it's only two
• 41:49
  heavy breaking zones, the front straight and the very bottom of
• 41:52
  the waterfalls where you need to break to make the left.
• 41:55
  Outside of that, it's not like, you know, you come into a first
• 41:59
  gear turn or anything. So right.
• 42:02
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, Peck.
• 42:04
  I mean the the the way he tumbles and sprints man like it
• 42:09
  makes no sense man. No, it it does.
• 42:12
  It does not make any sense. You know, we had Vinales,
• 42:17
  Frankie Oliveira, you know, these guys crashed out and and
• 42:22
  and I think all of them are, we know for sure of Banalas and
• 42:25
  Frankie hurt. I think Oliver is hurt too, you
• 42:29
  know. Mere walk the Wayans gave, yeah.
• 42:32
  Yeah, mere walk. The new Oliveira.
• 42:37
  So much fat, you know the new. Oliveira.
• 42:40
  Listen, I, I, I feel bad for me for sure, and I agree with took
• 42:44
  him out very apologetic, but I mean, he entered that I agree he
• 42:49
  entered that corner pretty. Fast he had Yeah, he.
• 42:51
  He had no chance of making that man.
• 42:53
  There was no. Chance.
• 42:54
  None. Like none.
• 42:56
  Making that that was a wrap. It was none.
• 42:58
  Which one you think these guys going to be ready after the
• 43:01
  summer break? Vinales, Oliveira and Frankie?
• 43:04
  I don't. Know Frankie's left on that one.
• 43:10
  Frankie's tough, I mean. Frankie, Frankie didn't, but
• 43:13
  Frankie didn't break anything. You know, it's just, it's just
• 43:17
  injuries. So like, I haven't heard that,
• 43:19
  you know, he broke anything. Vinales.
• 43:23
  He dislocated his shoulder. Right.
• 43:24
  Just dislocated his shoulders. So like some therapy?
• 43:27
  I mean you can come back from dislocated shoulder pretty
• 43:31
  quickly. You just got to be careful that
• 43:32
  you don't re injure it if you're not going to get if it doesn't
• 43:35
  need surgery. Just don't.
• 43:37
  Be like A and yeah, and then Olivera.
• 43:40
  I mean, he's going to end up hurt again after the first race
• 43:42
  of the season, you know, So he might as just stay out, bro.
• 43:45
  Just he needs, he needs a whole side of the garage like blessed
• 43:52
  or like some sort of like some kind of juju put in, get the
• 43:57
  spirits out. Yeah.
• 43:59
  I agree. He needs another Joanne Mia to
• 44:02
  take some of that juju away from him for sure.
• 44:08
  After this weekend, do you guys think that Zarko should get that
• 44:12
  factory seat with Honda? I think it's I think it should
• 44:18
  be that crashed. I know he crashed out up and I
• 44:20
  mean, I, I was thinking about this before he crashed out, if
• 44:23
  he didn't crash out ultimately, but he did crash out, which by
• 44:27
  himself too, you know. I say he does deserve it, but no
• 44:32
  I don't. I mean, I'd rather put a younger
• 44:33
  guy on there because he's older, he can help develop.
• 44:37
  If you put a younger guy on a non factory, it's kind of going
• 44:41
  to fade away again, you know, give.
• 44:45
  Him the factory contract, but just on just keeping where he is
• 44:48
  out of LCR, yeah. Yes, that's more.
• 44:51
  That's a lot better. As far as who's going to give
• 44:54
  Marini's seat, that's still up in the air because, you know,
• 44:57
  now we got this whole new Aprilia, Hubba Ballou where
• 45:01
  they're saying that they got a contract and unless, you know,
• 45:04
  they get a judge to say otherwise or something like
• 45:07
  Martine's not going to be able to ride for anybody else.
• 45:09
  And then during the CEO pretty much said the same thing.
• 45:13
  If he's not riding with a Prelia and there's nothing that legally
• 45:16
  says that he doesn't have to ride with him.
• 45:18
  If he doesn't want to ride with a Prelia, we're we won't give
• 45:21
  him a license to ride anywhere else, right?
• 45:23
  Right. I think that I think that, oh,
• 45:25
  hey, Martin should have called up Bazecki and give him some
• 45:29
  money and tell him to slow down a little bit because, oh, now.
• 45:32
  Make me look good. Make me look good.
• 45:33
  Now that the has. Been on the box a couple of
• 45:36
  times. It's hard to sit here and say
• 45:37
  it's not competitive. But again, it's competitive on
• 45:41
  specific tracks just like any other bike.
• 45:43
  It's the Ducati is the only bike that's competitive on 90% of the
• 45:48
  tracks. Every other bike is competitive
• 45:49
  on 807060 depending on the bike. KDM they've got their bikes
• 45:55
  their their tracks where they're competitive.
• 45:57
  Yamaha has their bikes and tracks where they're
• 45:59
  competitive. Ducati is the only one that like
• 46:01
  weekly at almost every track is at that high level that they can
• 46:05
  race at every track and be competitive.
• 46:07
  And so you don't think that Bazecki showing that, that he's
• 46:11
  been the most competitive on Aprilia as far as being
• 46:14
  consistent competitive, being competitive where, you know,
• 46:19
  Alesh, you know, who won here, won there, competitive here,
• 46:22
  competitive here. But the last few rounds, Bizek,
• 46:25
  he's been continuously, continuously moving forward and
• 46:28
  and now he's been upfront for the last since Silverstone.
• 46:31
  Well, let's see how he's doing after after the break, you know,
• 46:34
  let's see how he does in the second-half of the year.
• 46:36
  Because if he can keep that consistency and again, he
• 46:38
  doesn't have to be in the top five every race, just stay
• 46:42
  consistent in that top 6-7 every race.
• 46:45
  You know, don't crash, finish the races, get the points
• 46:48
  because that's where you're really going to shine apart.
• 46:50
  Because remember at the beginning of the year, he had a
• 46:52
  problem where he had really bad starts and then in the middle of
• 46:55
  the race he was the only one that had pace.
• 46:57
  But then he was in 18th place and he finished in 12.
• 47:00
  Now he's not having that problem where he drops back in the
• 47:03
  beginning. He's able to stay competitive in
• 47:04
  the beginning, the middle and the end.
• 47:07
  So maybe they found something because again, he was first
• 47:09
  year, they got to set the bike up, tried a bunch of different
• 47:12
  settings. What works for him.
• 47:13
  Maybe they found something that works for him that now lets him
• 47:16
  be competitive beginning, middle and end.
• 47:18
  And let's see if they can carry that over to the second-half of
• 47:20
  the year. If they, I mean, I would love to
• 47:22
  see Aprilia up there right at the front with Ducati and
• 47:25
  another one or two manufacturers.
• 47:27
  Yeah, I, I don't know what the weather condition was like, but
• 47:30
  it was the most, he was the most competitive manufacturer until
• 47:32
  he crashed out against the Ducati in the main race itself,
• 47:36
  even in the in the Sprint, but in the main race, because I
• 47:39
  mean, Alex tried to pass him, he got him back.
• 47:43
  I forget who else tried to pass them and and got them back and
• 47:46
  and kept and and kept the position.
• 47:49
  It's just gravity. Meeting bro busy.
• 47:50
  It'd have been good to see Pretty back on the podium again,
• 47:57
  but that was unfortunate to see like 3-4 riders go down to Turn
• 48:02
  1. Yeah, that turn one, man, I
• 48:06
  there must have been oil or something there because there
• 48:08
  was guys that were crashing before they even tipped in, man.
• 48:11
  Like it looked like they just got on a brake and the second
• 48:13
  they hit that brake lever, like the front would just fold.
• 48:16
  Yeah, like those guys crashing early.
• 48:18
  Early. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:21
  I mean, we had eight riders crash out and I mean the worst
• 48:25
  ones were Bazecki and Dejanantoni, even Acosta because
• 48:29
  he crashed out early. And lucky thing, that bike dug
• 48:32
  in in in the in the middle because that could have went
• 48:34
  back on a track. Yeah.
• 48:38
  Any thoughts on, you know, outside of oil or anything?
• 48:42
  I don't think it was oil. You think it was the
• 48:43
  temperature? Maybe.
• 48:47
  I think it was the entire temperature.
• 48:53
  Yeah, actually I can't call. It say again.
• 48:57
  Recently, maybe his gleaning was too low or something.
• 49:02
  No, I was saying I'm I'm with everybody.
• 49:05
  I don't know what was on this heavy summer when I tried
• 49:07
  because you're not even on Tipping Point yet and you're
• 49:10
  just crashing out like what's going on with this?
• 49:13
  That's too many people in one turn.
• 49:17
  Yeah, no crazy. Lewis, are you guys going to put
• 49:20
  a clause in more of a Deli's contract there for replace
• 49:25
  zipper next time and do not force?
• 49:29
  So they, they Dorner released like a a press release yesterday
• 49:35
  or something where they grabbed the suit, they did a full
• 49:37
  inspection of the suit. They can't find anything wrong
• 49:40
  with it. They couldn't find anything that
• 49:42
  mechanically was wrong with the suit.
• 49:44
  So they can't determine exactly what happened.
• 49:46
  We're going to take the to back, obviously we're going to run
• 49:48
  through as as many tests as we can as well to see exactly what
• 49:51
  were the situations, you know, was it not zipped the entire
• 49:55
  way? I mean, even if it wasn't like
• 49:57
  it shouldn't have blown apart like that, like you know what
• 49:59
  exactly with the situations, you know, unfortunately this is part
• 50:03
  of the racing is, you know, when you're developing new
• 50:06
  technologies and there is some new technologies in this suit
• 50:09
  that aren't in previous suits, you know, sometimes you come
• 50:11
  across things like this, but they can't find anything that
• 50:14
  was mechanically or structurally incorrect with the suit.
• 50:17
  So the zipper didn't come apart at the seam.
• 50:21
  The the zipper literally came apart at the mechanical part of
• 50:23
  the zipper. So we got it, you know, we got
• 50:25
  to figure out because it's never happened in that type of
• 50:28
  situation. Usually it's somebody's doesn't
• 50:30
  zip it up all the way and it'll become undone.
• 50:32
  Now, with all the zippers that we have in Moto GP, we actually
• 50:35
  have Velcro on the zipper pulls and Velcro on the bottom of the
• 50:39
  collar. And even we use that here with
• 50:41
  our riders in Mode America now. So when they zip it up, they
• 50:44
  actually have to Velcro the collar snap to the zipper so the
• 50:48
  zipper won't pull down. So when they snap it, it's
• 50:50
  Velcroed in on the top. So can't really come undone.
• 50:53
  Like you really got to do something stupid to have it come
• 50:56
  undone. But you know, again, we got to
• 50:58
  do investigations and this is, you know why we test these new
• 51:02
  features and things like that. Unfortunately, I'm racers
• 51:05
  because we know they're going to crash eventually and we're going
• 51:07
  to see how things hold up. But that's not how that you
• 51:10
  know, we that's not what we want.
• 51:11
  That's not what we're looking for at all.
• 51:13
  So we're going to do a serious deep dive on what happened there
• 51:17
  and make sure it doesn't happen again.
• 51:19
  For sure, yeah. Let's talk about KTM.
• 51:23
  We're not looking at KTM, but like KTM.
• 51:26
  Let's talk about Benda Fernandez Rinz.
• 51:31
  I even throw I won't even throw Luca in there, but these three
• 51:33
  riders because they they finished in the top ten and and
• 51:36
  obviously some of that was due to some guys crashing out, but
• 51:40
  Fernandez has been riding really well lately.
• 51:42
  Can he, you know, be like, can he and I still trying to see if
• 51:45
  he can save his career and stay in Moto G?
• 51:48
  Well, he's he has another contract for for next year.
• 51:50
  So I I it'll be hard. I mean for it for him not to say
• 51:53
  hard for them to get rid of him, but you know, he does already
• 51:56
  have a contract for next year. What was most impressive, Reince
• 51:59
  Fernandez or Bender? I mean Bender was on the KTM, so
• 52:03
  as long as he stayed up he was collecting points.
• 52:09
  What are your thoughts on that, TJ?
• 52:12
  I mean, yeah. I mean, I think Bender, I don't
• 52:17
  know. I mean, like, I don't, I don't
• 52:18
  know if Brad just goes out there just to race just because he's
• 52:22
  got a contract for some reason. Like I don't ever see like him,
• 52:27
  you know, trying super hard. I know they go through their
• 52:29
  battles and obviously they have Pedro Acosta and Maverick and
• 52:36
  and they but you know, I feel like he hasn't really tried hard
• 52:41
  this season or, you know, you know, it's just just out there
• 52:44
  riding. So for him to get top ten, yeah,
• 52:46
  a lot of people crashed out. I don't find that super
• 52:50
  impressive. It's just kind of where he fell
• 52:52
  in. I do want to see, you know what
• 52:55
  we talking about Raul. I do want to see him shine a
• 52:58
  little better. Like I said, I don't know when
• 53:00
  his contract's up, but I hate seeing riders come into Motor GP
• 53:05
  and then and then disappearing. I like to see sometimes a little
• 53:09
  longevity. So I want to see him step up.
• 53:11
  We've seen Brad bend it forever, you know, so, so I want to
• 53:15
  definitely want to see him step up to the plate a little bit.
• 53:20
  I forget the other racer you mentioned.
• 53:24
  Who Luca? It was Rinz.
• 53:26
  It was Rinz. Rinz, right?
• 53:29
  I mean, when, when, when it was back and when it was Joan Meer
• 53:34
  and Alice Rinz. I really love that duo.
• 53:37
  But since then, I think Rinz hasn't had it since then.
• 53:42
  And here and there he'll get a podium.
• 53:44
  But ever since I think he broke his leg last year, it's just
• 53:48
  never been the same. He's just kind of just been 10th
• 53:53
  or 15th place, you know, or you know, just way in the back.
• 53:57
  And it's another one that I think it's just I don't know.
• 54:02
  I don't know if deserves a seat next next year or whatever is
• 54:04
  contrasting up. So do.
• 54:06
  You do you do you think with Benda is, is kind of, you know,
• 54:11
  it's kind of, you know, it's kind of what you know, we say
• 54:14
  might be going on with with Bagnaya and and you know, even
• 54:20
  with Raul, with Raul and Aya Guru, as far as Aya guru is
• 54:24
  doing really well when he came in, Marquez is doing better than
• 54:27
  back now. Acosta last year with everything
• 54:30
  was all about Acosta and now he's his teammate.
• 54:34
  Do you think that Bender is feeling a little bit of, you
• 54:38
  know, hey, show some love on this side of the the box kind of
• 54:41
  thing or you, you just think it's something else?
• 54:47
  I mean, I, I think that probably has something to do with it.
• 54:50
  I don't know if it's just he wants to be, you know, everyone
• 54:53
  probably wants to be the star. I probably just want more
• 54:56
  attention on him. So he's just out there just
• 54:58
  playing it safe. I'm not sure.
• 55:01
  I also don't know like if you're developing throughout the
• 55:05
  season, if you have 4 bikes, like obviously the top 2 riders
• 55:11
  will get get some new product to test or use for the bike in a
• 55:16
  race. So I'm not sure if that's the
• 55:19
  case if they all get it or if it's just Pedro or the best
• 55:21
  rider or if he's getting some of the new technology.
• 55:26
  I'm not sure how that works, but it seems like he's not getting
• 55:28
  anything and he's just always always in the back but it seems
• 55:33
  always finished. Well, he had a lot of crashes
• 55:36
  this year, but. Right, right.
• 55:38
  What are your thoughts, Lewis? Is it pressure from Acosta?
• 55:42
  We know last year Miller was kind of upset that Acosta was
• 55:45
  getting parts and he wasn't stuff like that.
• 55:47
  So I don't know how KTM is doing things on the inside.
• 55:51
  Is it just, I mean, you know, Brad, Brad was the man when he
• 55:55
  came from Moto 2, winning the title and coming into GP.
• 55:58
  He was the man for a long until Acosta showed up, you know?
• 56:03
  Yeah, but who else was racing on KTM that was at a really, really
• 56:08
  top level like Miller got? Miller's bounced around all over
• 56:11
  the place. He's never been consistent.
• 56:13
  You know, he's been on factory, factory rides where, you know,
• 56:16
  he can't find that consistency. He's fast at anyone given race,
• 56:21
  but he's not fast consistently. Binder was just fast
• 56:24
  consistently. And since he kind of started and
• 56:26
  came up through the KTM hierarchy, like, you know, he
• 56:29
  was kind of the most protected rider the KTM had.
• 56:34
  Now that KT Ms. brought people in from other places that been
• 56:37
  on different manufacturers and haven't come through the KTM
• 56:40
  rostrum, I think they were maybe showing them a little bit of a
• 56:43
  different pathway. Acosta coming over back to KTM
• 56:48
  'cause he was with KTM in the past and he came into Moto GP in
• 56:52
  the KTM, but not on a factory KTM.
• 56:56
  He was on US satellite, satellite.
• 56:58
  And yeah, so, so now it's, you know, now he's just on a factory
• 57:02
  bike. He gets a little bit more
• 57:03
  factory support. But, you know, again, they also
• 57:05
  see that this kid is the future. Bender's been in the class for
• 57:08
  quite a few years now. And even though again, once in a
• 57:11
  blue moon on a rain race on some slicks, he'll win this one off
• 57:14
  crazy race. But you know, I we don't need a
• 57:17
  perpetual 7th place racer like we need a guy that's going to be
• 57:20
  our main guy on our factory team that we can put out there.
• 57:24
  And at this point, with this many seasons under his belt,
• 57:26
  Bender shown like, I'm not that guy.
• 57:28
  I can get you 7 day place on a regular basis.
• 57:31
  But if you want somebody in the top 4 on a regular basis, you
• 57:34
  got to look somewhere else. Because at this point I've had
• 57:36
  so many, so much time on his bike.
• 57:38
  I haven't proven anything, you know, so and then as far as
• 57:43
  Renz, same thing, man. I think ever since he broke his
• 57:45
  leg and that injury last year, you know, he came into Yamaha
• 57:49
  with the expectation that he's going to have a bike that will
• 57:52
  handle similar to maybe the Suzuki where he had his most
• 57:55
  success since he is like one of those really smooth edgier tire,
• 57:59
  kind of like corner speed riders.
• 58:01
  Like he's a Lorenzo style rider where corner speed is where he
• 58:04
  really makes up his ground. But you know, this year the
• 58:08
  Yamaha doesn't have the best top speed.
• 58:12
  You know, he hasn't gelled with the bike at all.
• 58:14
  I mean, you see it in his results.
• 58:15
  And not that anybody's doing phenomenal outside of Quattarara
• 58:19
  on the Yamaha, but I mean, he's not even, I mean, Jack Miller's
• 58:22
  outperforming him on a satellite Yamaha.
• 58:25
  And you know, so I, I think Renz is probably at the end of his
• 58:28
  career at this point. I don't think he's going to find
• 58:30
  another home after this unless he tries World Super bike or
• 58:34
  something else. I don't see another team hiring
• 58:36
  him to jump on their bike at his age with his mileage, with his
• 58:40
  injuries and everything. You know, I hate to say because
• 58:42
  I really do like him. I think he's a great rider, but
• 58:45
  you know, we got too many hungry sharks looking for seats.
• 58:49
  You know, you got to give some of these hungry boys.
• 58:51
  They are. And I think and the last one,
• 58:53
  Raul Fernandez, I think, you know, somebody told him he's
• 58:55
  like, hey, Raul, you got to go faster, man.
• 59:00
  You, you got to go faster and and don't and take less Kitty
• 59:03
  litter home with you every weekend or you're going to be
• 59:06
  looking for another job, you know, supermarket or something.
• 59:09
  You're going to be packing up UPS boxes or something.
• 59:14
  I, I, I agree with Renz as far as the, the injury, for sure.
• 59:18
  I, I, I think that's the unfortunate side with him, I
• 59:20
  think, but, and I'm not saying it's over, but I think he, he
• 59:24
  had like I, I, not this last round, but one of the previous
• 59:28
  rounds. I He was still limping like he
• 59:30
  like he like he's walking with a limp still.
• 59:32
  I I think that's, I think that's yeah, every round man.
• 59:37
  Like I think the, the injury never healed the right way.
• 59:40
  So I think he's he's got that little like hop in the way he
• 59:43
  walks. Like I think that's forever now
• 59:45
  at this point, man, which sucks. Again, these are the type of
• 59:48
  injuries that can just wreck your career.
• 59:51
  Like every round I've seen him with a limp, I've never seen him
• 59:54
  walk straight ever since that injury.
• 59:57
  Yeah, which is which is crazy before we talk about world super
• 1:00:01
  bike a little bit. You know, Lewis, you brought
• 1:00:04
  this up a little bit when you were we were talking about Bobby
• 1:00:06
  Fong and and not, you know, riding like the Marquez a
• 1:00:10
  brother. It's pretty blatant that.
• 1:00:14
  Alex rides harder with other writers than than he does with
• 1:00:18
  Mark. Is it?
• 1:00:20
  Is it just me? No.
• 1:00:22
  No, it's not just. You you're looking at it
• 1:00:27
  correctly. It's not just you, but I think I
• 1:00:31
  think those are the only two guys that each other respects on
• 1:00:35
  the track. I don't think Mark respects him
• 1:00:37
  on a. Track like that.
• 1:00:39
  No, no, no. I mean, I'm saying like if you
• 1:00:42
  look at the way Mark passes Alex, he don't, he don't always
• 1:00:45
  pass Alex the way he passes other guys.
• 1:00:47
  Fair. Enough.
• 1:00:48
  You know, because he's like, he'll be a little bit more
• 1:00:50
  calculated with Alex if he if he has the time, if he sees that
• 1:00:54
  the guy behind him is coming up on him too fast, then he will
• 1:00:57
  make an aggressive move on Mark and like jump it up on the
• 1:01:00
  inside or I'll break him somewhere or something like
• 1:01:02
  that. But for the most part, when he
• 1:01:04
  passes Alex, it's a little bit more of a calculated pass in an
• 1:01:07
  area where it's like a breaking zone or like he'll you know, he
• 1:01:10
  doesn't try to like beat him to the apex leaned over and push
• 1:01:14
  him out of the way. Whereas other guys like he will
• 1:01:17
  lean, he will beat you to the apex, He will punch you into
• 1:01:21
  the, the rumble strips like, but again, you, you can't blame
• 1:01:26
  them. You know, if I, I don't want to
• 1:01:28
  take money out of my brother's pocket, I don't want to hurt my
• 1:01:30
  brother and, and same thing and like vice versa.
• 1:01:33
  I don't want to take money out of my brother's pocket or hurt
• 1:01:35
  my brother. Now this other dude and I, I
• 1:01:38
  hurt him, I go in the parking lot, I hurt his family.
• 1:01:42
  I I go slash his tires if I have to if it makes a difference
• 1:01:44
  between coming 2nd and thirds. I'm like, I don't give a shit
• 1:01:48
  at. That point, it's it's business,
• 1:01:51
  but when it's your family, you know, even though you're working
• 1:01:54
  and riding for your team, you know, once Mark gets in front of
• 1:01:57
  him and Mark starts to stretch him, you know, it's not Alex
• 1:02:00
  letting him stretch him. You know Alex does his thing.
• 1:02:03
  But when it's them dicing with a certain area like it does, it is
• 1:02:08
  a little bit more respectful than than than.
• 1:02:10
  Let's put it that. Way and and we talk about the
• 1:02:12
  team. If if Alex was on KTM factory,
• 1:02:15
  they wouldn't be standing for that, right?
• 1:02:18
  He's like Grassini. Grassini satellite, you know,
• 1:02:22
  second place all year round is really good for us.
• 1:02:24
  It's great for a satellite team. I mean, for a satellite team,
• 1:02:28
  remember, satellite team won last year.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah. You know, so any satellite team
• 1:02:32
  would love to be in this position.
• 1:02:34
  You know, I, I, I'm sure that Grassini would love for him to
• 1:02:37
  win a few more races because that's some more money in their
• 1:02:39
  pockets, but even getting 2nd place all the time, that's a lot
• 1:02:44
  of money in their pockets. Yeah, Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 1:02:47
  Reese, Alex kind of ride harder with Mark for him to win, right.
• 1:02:52
  I mean, you you know, he's he's not going to win this year or
• 1:02:56
  next year if that's the case, if he if he doesn't start treating
• 1:03:00
  Mark like every other right. I get it.
• 1:03:01
  Mark is trying to be nice. OK, fine, great.
• 1:03:04
  But like it does, Alex is always on the losing end of that of the
• 1:03:08
  races. I mean, yeah, I mean the the
• 1:03:11
  start winning, he's got to be a little bit more aggressive in
• 1:03:14
  the passing and pass his brother a little bit harder, you know,
• 1:03:17
  or sticking up in there, you know, where he can.
• 1:03:21
  And just like when you see those two ride, you look at him like,
• 1:03:24
  you know, I respect my my brother and my family.
• 1:03:26
  I don't want to go in there and hurt him or or push him wide.
• 1:03:30
  I want him to do good as well. And had the two name of
• 1:03:34
  Marquez's on the box, you know, like Lewis said then it comes to
• 1:03:37
  any other writing. He's like, I don't give a damn.
• 1:03:39
  But you're you're not, you know, you're not a family.
• 1:03:42
  You're not at this point a level, you know, my me, my
• 1:03:45
  brother, we train together and my father's out here, you know,
• 1:03:48
  my father don't even know which which pit box to go into.
• 1:03:51
  He's like, do I go into my oldest ones or do I go into my
• 1:03:54
  youngest ones? But.
• 1:03:56
  But in in, in Alex's defense, when Reese finishes, I got one
• 1:03:59
  thing. Oh.
• 1:04:01
  Oh, so, you know, I mean, I, I just say Alex got a little, he's
• 1:04:07
  got to give it a little bit more, give it just that little
• 1:04:10
  bit more to get over the edge. And I think he can do it, you
• 1:04:12
  know, because you're on the you're on the same spec bike
• 1:04:15
  almost besides, like it's a little less.
• 1:04:19
  It's not the I think it's on the 24.
• 1:04:22
  So, you know, give it a little bit more.
• 1:04:29
  So then what my comment was even though Alex is is, you know, it
• 1:04:33
  looks like Alex is kind of racing for 2nd place and being
• 1:04:39
  there's only been a handful of people in the history of Moto GP
• 1:04:42
  since Mark came into the series that could actually fight with
• 1:04:45
  Mark on a week in, week out basis for sure.
• 1:04:49
  You know, so like, think about it.
• 1:04:51
  Andrea de Vitioso is the only guy that was like week in and
• 1:04:54
  week out fighting with Marquez for, you know, good.
• 1:04:57
  Two year period. Three-year period.
• 1:04:59
  Rossi. Lorenzo.
• 1:05:03
  That's it, man. Pedrosa.
• 1:05:05
  Pedrosa. Yeah, but I'm saying.
• 1:05:06
  But yeah, yeah. Yeah, four guys.
• 1:05:09
  Handful. Handful of guys.
• 1:05:11
  So for Alex to just be able to stay there and even try to
• 1:05:14
  compete at that level, yeah, he gets stretched at at there's
• 1:05:18
  always that one point in the race when Alex is just like,
• 1:05:21
  it's I'm going to check out now and I'm going to give myself
• 1:05:24
  like a 23 second padding. Then I could just coast it in,
• 1:05:28
  right. You know.
• 1:05:29
  So it's not, you know, don't think that it's just Alex.
• 1:05:32
  I really don't want to battle my brother.
• 1:05:34
  He would love to battle his brother.
• 1:05:35
  But when when Mark decides like I'm going to pull the pin on
• 1:05:38
  this, he's pulling. It's not yeah, it's not like
• 1:05:40
  Alex is like I'm not going to try to push for that extra half
• 1:05:43
  SEC. I don't have that extra half
• 1:05:44
  SEC. I don't know where he's pulling
• 1:05:46
  that out his ass. I'm pushing 100% here.
• 1:05:49
  And this dude just stretched me by 7 bike lengths in three
• 1:05:51
  corners. You know, it's just Mark
• 1:05:54
  Marquez, man. There's only a handful of people
• 1:05:56
  that can do what he does. And most of those, all of them
• 1:05:59
  are retired now. And Alex just happens to be this
• 1:06:02
  year's, you know, placement holder like that guy that's
• 1:06:06
  trying to trying to trying to compete.
• 1:06:10
  I think we I think we talked about it before that, you know,
• 1:06:15
  Alex will probably never beat his brother until his brother
• 1:06:17
  retires. I don't think he'll ever let
• 1:06:20
  that happen. Even seem like that during the
• 1:06:22
  first race of the season where he just let his brother go.
• 1:06:25
  He's like, all right, you go ahead, let you see how it feels.
• 1:06:28
  And then just, yeah, I can't let you win yet.
• 1:06:32
  And and looking at like the brothers that we had in the
• 1:06:35
  past, like Brad been to Dare and been to Polis, Fargo, Alicia
• 1:06:39
  Spargo, you know, there's always one that's like obviously better
• 1:06:44
  than the other. So he kind of like I expected
• 1:06:47
  kind of the same with with the Alice and Mark and you know,
• 1:06:50
  through the year Alice had last year is nothing compared to this
• 1:06:54
  year. He's having a tremendous year.
• 1:06:56
  Obviously he's on a great bike, but I just hope that he finishes
• 1:07:01
  well and then obviously to see what he can do next year.
• 1:07:04
  See, obviously he's a great rider and obviously a great
• 1:07:07
  rider and he's a great bike to compete.
• 1:07:08
  But you know, see what Mark did when he was on Versini and that
• 1:07:12
  wasn't even the best bike. So good, good set, especially
• 1:07:17
  they they're playing together. If you take Mark out of the
• 1:07:20
  series, technically Alex is beating the the, you know, the
• 1:07:24
  two time champion by 5060 points or something like that.
• 1:07:29
  It's just like, you know, so it's not like he's not beating
• 1:07:33
  some great riders behind him. It's just that one rider in
• 1:07:36
  front of him that nobody can beat.
• 1:07:38
  You know the rest of the other 1819 guys can't beat that one
• 1:07:41
  guy, right? You know, I, I I agree it's it's
• 1:07:44
  going to be it's going to be interesting second-half of the
• 1:07:46
  season for sure. You know, one of the I don't
• 1:07:50
  know how what's the word and look for how one of the coolest
• 1:07:53
  things I saw was top rock winning this past weekend and
• 1:07:57
  the untrue brothers both winning in super sport and Moto 2.
• 1:08:03
  You know, the the the Turks got to feel good about this past
• 1:08:07
  weekend. This stock had had to have gone
• 1:08:09
  up. You know, for the first time, I
• 1:08:12
  saw Dennis Unchu actually smile. If he's not in first place, this
• 1:08:16
  dude does not smile. What are your thoughts on on on
• 1:08:20
  you know, Top rack Dennis Unchu and chat Canon 2?
• 1:08:29
  So I mean top rack. I'm just looking at the results
• 1:08:31
  like I was like to practice. He wasn't even 1st and I don't
• 1:08:36
  think any of his sessions and it's like to go out and just win
• 1:08:41
  all three races clean. I mean, it's just I don't know
• 1:08:45
  if the guy's back, you know, he's just paying for his his
• 1:08:50
  Moto GP season next year and try to win this year as well.
• 1:08:54
  But yeah, I mean top rock and bull Liga battles, it's always
• 1:08:57
  good to see. But you know, to win three in a
• 1:08:59
  row. I mean, it's just like he's guys
• 1:09:02
  that can't go for a super bike. Kind of a way to stay,
• 1:09:06
  especially being champ. I didn't.
• 1:09:09
  Celebration, though. Basically, you got to work with
• 1:09:13
  the celebrations. I think he had one of the
• 1:09:15
  coolest celebrations last year. Like he put a wing on his back
• 1:09:19
  and rolled around. I thought that was pretty cool.
• 1:09:21
  But I mean, I get what you're saying as far as Dennis
• 1:09:25
  Dontreau. And although I didn't really see
• 1:09:28
  like this, this, this like what you're saying, his smile and him
• 1:09:33
  not smile when he's now winning. But I think he's definitely
• 1:09:37
  having a good season as well. Lewis on the world super bike
• 1:09:44
  side. I, you know, I like I like both
• 1:09:47
  riders that are in the top two man, you know, I, I, I root for
• 1:09:50
  Bulgar because you know, again, he had he had a really hard time
• 1:09:54
  for a little bit of time there. You know, even the GP paddock
• 1:09:58
  not having a ride going to world super sport, that whole thing.
• 1:10:01
  So I, I do boot fruit for him and I like the fact that this
• 1:10:05
  championship is so close man. You know, there's only four
• 1:10:08
  points separating the top two guys.
• 1:10:10
  These guys are going to battle probably all the way to the end.
• 1:10:13
  I mean I don't expect this championship unless something
• 1:10:16
  dramatic happens. I don't expect this championship
• 1:10:18
  to be resolved before the last race of the year.
• 1:10:21
  Like I honestly think it's going to come down to like the last
• 1:10:24
  race of the year between these two because nobody's giving.
• 1:10:27
  And when somebody gives, the other one pulls back and you
• 1:10:30
  know, it's it's just it's that yo-yo right at the top.
• 1:10:33
  And these two guys have just really just separated themselves
• 1:10:36
  from the rest of the field, man. Like nobody else is on this
• 1:10:39
  level. Yeah.
• 1:10:40
  And and it's whoever has the, the, the worst qualifying,
• 1:10:44
  right. I mean, the better qualifier is
• 1:10:46
  the one that's is winning and whoever got to come through
• 1:10:49
  that, the only reason why they're not upfront and fighting
• 1:10:52
  is, is just because they're coming through the the field.
• 1:10:55
  Yeah, and I mean the the results are only this close now because
• 1:10:58
  remember Bouliga got taken out at the last race.
• 1:11:01
  So you know that gave top rack a bunch of points back.
• 1:11:05
  And he had an engine failure. And he had an engine failure.
• 1:11:08
  Yeah. So, you know, that's that's 50
• 1:11:10
  points right there. You know, now that's not to say
• 1:11:13
  that top racks going to get away without having some DNFS and
• 1:11:16
  some other mechanicals. And you know, this is what
• 1:11:18
  racing is. You know, on any given day, you
• 1:11:20
  can have the greatest bike and with one lap left, your chain
• 1:11:23
  brakes, you know, with one lap left, you know, a cylinder
• 1:11:27
  drops, a valve blows, anything can happen.
• 1:11:30
  So but I still think that outside of mechanicals, these
• 1:11:33
  two guys are by far the cream of the crop here, man.
• 1:11:36
  I mean, what these two guys can do on a motorcycle on a super
• 1:11:39
  bike, like, I mean, I, I look at it sometime like, man, I don't I
• 1:11:44
  even if I had the talent, I don't know if I'd be down to do
• 1:11:46
  that man, that's that's, that's a little scary, man.
• 1:11:49
  I mean, watching these guys going side by side and dicing it
• 1:11:52
  up the way they do sometimes and you know, just it's, it's it's
• 1:11:57
  amazing, man. What these guys can do on these
• 1:11:58
  bikes is just so unbelievable. Like if you took these guys back
• 1:12:02
  to the 70s on one of their bikes to any track anywhere and let
• 1:12:06
  them do a couple of laps, like the entire pit be like, how's
• 1:12:08
  that possible? And now it's like commonplace.
• 1:12:11
  It's like every weekend like this is what this is the what
• 1:12:13
  motorcycle racing has evolved into this unbelievable.
• 1:12:17
  It's a ballet of gravity, man. It's literally, it's, it's
• 1:12:20
  gravity defined. It's we're trying to figure out
• 1:12:22
  how to beat gravity on every single corner using, you know,
• 1:12:25
  less than 1/4 of inch of rubber on the side of a tire.
• 1:12:28
  It's, it's wild, bro. I love it.
• 1:12:32
  That's why we're here, man, We love it.
• 1:12:33
  What are your? Thoughts, Reese.
• 1:12:37
  I mean, first foremost, you know, I, I haven't heard it, but
• 1:12:39
  I got to give a good shout out and good respect to my good
• 1:12:43
  friend over there. And Garrett, I mean, taking two
• 1:12:45
  top tens, 8:00 and 6:00. So I definitely got to give a,
• 1:12:49
  you know, big thanks to him and he got.
• 1:12:52
  A new contract. Right, with his new contract
• 1:12:55
  with his team. So I mean that was a very, very
• 1:13:00
  sporty of him. But with top rack, like man,
• 1:13:05
  that's just it's like you're you're the king.
• 1:13:09
  You're you're another Marquez in this this league.
• 1:13:11
  You know, he can't be touched, can't be, you know, it's just
• 1:13:15
  dominant, you know, and he wins in dominant fashion.
• 1:13:19
  You know, to see him win each race this week and I was like
• 1:13:24
  it. It was almost kind of like I was
• 1:13:28
  at the point of like just either get a DNFI wanted to see a DNF
• 1:13:32
  just to see some just to see some drama like I was hoping
• 1:13:36
  like he crashed at the the engine failure.
• 1:13:40
  Just give me something just as a.
• 1:13:42
  Kind of talk. I was running with him until he
• 1:13:44
  crashed out in Race 1. Alex was definitely running with
• 1:13:46
  him. He.
• 1:13:47
  Was. You know, but he.
• 1:13:50
  Just wanted to see something like I just something's going to
• 1:13:53
  happen. I'm anticipating something
• 1:13:55
  happening and nothing happening. I'm like, I ain't this man.
• 1:13:57
  It's just, it's just dominant, you know, and I'm just hoping,
• 1:14:01
  you know, I mean, but like Lewis said, I think this is going to
• 1:14:03
  go, I think it's going to go down to the last race, the last
• 1:14:07
  round, the last lap, everything. It's going to go down to that.
• 1:14:10
  I don't think the championship is going to be determined any
• 1:14:13
  sooner. I think it's going to be
• 1:14:15
  determined at that last round coming.
• 1:14:18
  OK, two questions before we get out of here.
• 1:14:22
  Who should get Alvarez seat and who should get Top Rock seat for
• 1:14:27
  next season? Oh shit.
• 1:14:37
  I, I know BMWBMW is looking at Moto 2 riders and Moto GP
• 1:14:42
  riders. Like they made a press
• 1:14:44
  announcement that, you know, right now they're not limiting
• 1:14:47
  their search just to the world super bipodic.
• 1:14:49
  They're looking at Moto 2 and they're looking at current Moto
• 1:14:52
  GP riders that might be without a ride.
• 1:14:55
  Aaron Connett. Aaron Connett.
• 1:14:57
  Nah, man. Like I said, maybe, maybe we got
• 1:14:59
  two or three more tattoos. Maybe.
• 1:15:01
  But I don't think he has enough tattoos right now, man.
• 1:15:05
  Honestly, man, I think it'd be somebody.
• 1:15:06
  They want a name. They either want a name or a big
• 1:15:09
  talent. So it's either going to be
• 1:15:11
  someone like a Jack Miller or somebody like that.
• 1:15:14
  That, yeah, that comes with a little bit.
• 1:15:16
  Of like, yeah, or that was Vince.
• 1:15:23
  One of them. No, no, no, no, He's right.
• 1:15:27
  He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm just saying this
• 1:15:31
  is the option. Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean I
• 1:15:35
  can see some Moto 2 riders. I mean, you know, Manzi, it
• 1:15:40
  would be good. But I don't know if I don't know
• 1:15:42
  if he's going to stay in the Yamaha family when he moves up
• 1:15:45
  to Moto super Bike because he shouldn't move up to super bike
• 1:15:48
  at some point. I mean, you never knew who's
• 1:15:52
  going to take Ray's seat next year or so.
• 1:15:55
  Yeah. Oh, yeah, right.
• 1:15:57
  That's right. He might go somewhere else too.
• 1:15:59
  Right, Ray? Yeah.
• 1:16:04
  Rumor mills talking about going back to Honda.
• 1:16:06
  No Ray Ray supposedly the rumor mills that he's going to end up
• 1:16:10
  on the same bike with low one of the low side brothers.
• 1:16:14
  The the the. The VDS, Yeah, He's going to be
• 1:16:18
  the second, second rider on that.
• 1:16:19
  Yep. OK, I can see, I can see that.
• 1:16:23
  Petrucci, should he go to the factory seat?
• 1:16:24
  I mean, he's doing really well. Third in the standings and too
• 1:16:29
  old. Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  Just everybody will see what bike sold.
• 1:16:34
  Yeah, but you can give it to a younger guy that can that can be
• 1:16:38
  groomed by Bullocka and like you can Bullocka can help bring that
• 1:16:41
  young guy up if you get a young guy.
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  So once Bullocka leaves, you know you got the next guy
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  stepping in the Bullocka seat right in the shadow, and you can
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  keep that dominance going, OK? I'm I'm rooting for Petrucci,
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  but I feel you. It's it, it, it makes sense And
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  and I, you know, I'm saying, hey, I, I doubt he would want
• 1:17:03
  like a one year contract. So you know, it's, it's better
• 1:17:07
  to have a two year than a one year, right.
• 1:17:08
  So I don't think I don't know if you'd go.
• 1:17:10
  He did one year with Ducati factory and Moto GP so like.
• 1:17:15
  Lewis said. Man, that one year when a rider
• 1:17:18
  had that one year 1, you know, year contract, it's kind of hard
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  to give it your all because you're at that point where
• 1:17:24
  you're like, I want to give it my all, but then I don't want to
• 1:17:27
  throw this shit down the line, right?
• 1:17:31
  For your contracts only. Well guys, until next time.
• 1:17:36
  I mean this is pretty dope. Was pretty crazy weekend with
• 1:17:39
  all the racing I had all my screens I had a race on.
• 1:17:42
  It was one of the few times I could watch racing from like
• 1:17:45
  5:00 in the morning until, you know, when you guys finished in
• 1:17:48
  Cali. Right.
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  It was good times man, Trust me, I was up early watching the race
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  before I went in the to the track so it was a good time.
• 1:17:58
  No doubt, no doubt, man, it's to be perfect.
• 1:18:01
  Cool podcast. My name is Rex 45.
• 1:18:03
  Peace. Take care.