Latest / The Euro Legions Podcast / 101. Cosmic Legions Character Packs
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- 0:35Welcome to episode 101 of the Allegiance podcast.
- 0:40Today, it's the John and Mel show.
- 0:43Riches decided just to pack it in 100 was enough for him.
- 0:47He's. Like I'm done.
- 0:49Yeah, Leave on a high. No, he sends his apologies.
- 0:54He was all set to make it today, but something cropped up and he
- 0:59can't join it. But he did send us his notes.
- 1:01So we will throw in his opinions on what we're going to talk
- 1:05about. And what we're going to talk
- 1:06about today is the cosmic head packs reveals that were came up
- 1:12last week. And we're also going to have a
- 1:15look at some of the other heads that could possibly have made
- 1:18the cut for this cosmic heads pack or just in future what the
- 1:23options they were looking at when they decided and just to
- 1:27just for fun, not not not to criticize anything that was done
- 1:32more just for fun that suit you, man.
- 1:35Yeah, yeah. Sounds good, Sounds good.
- 1:38And how you've been doing you, you've actually met up with Rich
- 1:40last week. So what happened?
- 1:41What did you do to him? Yes, nothing.
- 1:45He when he left me, he was all good and fine and yeah, he's me.
- 1:49Oh, that's what they all say. But now we went, we just went to
- 1:53the pub that we have been to a couple of times when he's
- 1:56visited, had a bit of food, few drinks home at a reasonably
- 1:59sensible well home for me, the hotel for Rich at a reasonably
- 2:03sensible time. But it was good.
- 2:05Good to see people in person always, isn't it?
- 2:08And yeah, of course, yeah, chat so.
- 2:11He didn't bring any figures along to to mess around with
- 2:13her. He brought with me the turtles
- 2:19of Grey School. Leatherhead that Stevo picked up
- 2:23for me and gave me at Legions Con.
- 2:26Yeah. Yeah, I'd sent it back.
- 2:28Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:29That's it. In his big box that he'd shipped
- 2:32back, yeah. Yeah, I still have some figures
- 2:35to get off them from that, but I also have your retailer with
- 2:38figures. I need to send you a soon, Rich.
- 2:42I think he has other stuff that he wants me to wait for, I think
- 2:46anyway. Yeah, we'll get there.
- 2:49We've. Done the review so you know.
- 2:51That's it. That's it.
- 2:53I shipped. I shipped some of my pile of
- 2:55loot from Big Bad. So did you.
- 2:57Yeah. What you was building.
- 2:59So what? What do you got common?
- 3:02I got another Monkey King in there, another.
- 3:06I ended up buying another Red Death to use the body for a
- 3:10custom and the clothes for a custom, a different custom, and
- 3:16then it was turtles. They're not turtles.
- 3:21Motu stuff. So the Necroconda and the Horde
- 3:27Prime because they were very, very hard to get over here.
- 3:31So I just bought them from big. Bad they origins or.
- 3:35Yeah, yeah, Origins the the sort of toy line rather than the any
- 3:39of the other. Yeah.
- 3:40And they I thought they were directly at Mattel now, so Big
- 3:44Bad is getting them as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:47There's there's some being released through the usual
- 3:52channels, shops and, you know, retailers and online.
- 3:56There's some being released through Mattel Creations this
- 3:59past week, just gone. No week before Rio Blaster was
- 4:04through Mattel Creations, but there's now a Mattel Creations
- 4:08UK, so yeah, yeah. So we'll do it off there instead
- 4:12of off the US one. And do they say are they gone in
- 4:1660 seconds like they used to be or is it a bit more reasonable
- 4:19now that? They varies.
- 4:21The last couple haven't. Before that they were still
- 4:24going pretty quick. The last are.
- 4:26They pre-orders or. They're meant to be in stock and
- 4:32I think they're in stock in if you US, they're pre-orders if
- 4:36you UK, OK. I mean a real blast has already
- 4:39showed up so it's only like 3. But I doubt, I guess the UK has
- 4:43an allocation because I doubt they're firing up the factory
- 4:45again if the UK orders, you know, 10 more than than they
- 4:49have, whatever. Well, I wonder how many people
- 4:52actually know about the Mattel Creations UK because yeah, first
- 4:55of it just. Sort of popped up, Yeah, yeah,
- 4:58yeah. Maybe there's Europe one as well
- 4:59because there's a big motors huge in Germany.
- 5:02It's, it's probably the, the biggest market outside of the US
- 5:07for MOTU. So yeah, I, I mean, I should
- 5:12know this stuff, but I'm, I'm not really collecting MOTU at
- 5:16the moment. So yeah, kind of tend to bury
- 5:20the head in the sand then when you're not collecting the line
- 5:22because you just don't want to be to be tempted.
- 5:25They're pumping out a fair amount of stuff and
- 5:27unfortunately they've got me hooked at the moment, yeah.
- 5:30Well. Although I will not be buying
- 5:32the Thundercats crossover, I just don't feel the need to with
- 5:35that one so. Yeah, then yeah, I saw those
- 5:40figures we were talking about a little bit.
- 5:43Yeah. I like the battle cat one.
- 5:45Yeah, there was another one that was really cool.
- 5:48Cheetah or what? Or the.
- 5:50No, the mum. Rah was it Mum?
- 5:52Rah Skeletor Yeah, yeah, they're all right.
- 5:56I love. I don't know, there's something
- 5:58about the crossover with the Turtles and it been a bit
- 6:01bonkers that it works for me. Whereas didn't quite work so
- 6:04much for me for the Thundercats so.
- 6:07Yeah, I think even like the Lionel, it just looks a bit kind
- 6:12of mixed up or something. I don't know.
- 6:14It looks like a mishmash of other figures, but people seem
- 6:17to like it, so I suppose the target market.
- 6:19So yeah. I'm a bit relieved it doesn't
- 6:22appeal to me as well. This is Wyatt from the Mythic
- 6:27Enablers podcast, and you're listening to the Euro Legions
- 6:30podcast. They revealed the heads pack,
- 6:35cosmic heads pack. So it was on the Forestman
- 6:37channel. It was also on Jeremy's channel.
- 6:41They did a kind of a similar cast at the same time as
- 6:45Jeremy's normal show. And we're getting straight to
- 6:48the reveal here because we're not that was the real show.
- 6:50So we're just going straight to to see them all here first on
- 6:55this first picture. So it is as 5 heads packs.
- 7:00That's right. And so you got the the two
- 7:04female head scopes, you got the grey Bourne head scopes and you
- 7:09got the snakes or the Ninion in tiger blue.
- 7:13And we got the two Spexian head scopes and then we got a dragon
- 7:19head and tail in the colours of Kragner.
- 7:22So, so we got and there we go through it now, but they've got
- 7:26a bunch of deals and where they're bundling the figures
- 7:31with the heads to order direct. And we're also they're also
- 7:36doing the head pack separately for I think 10 reach.
- 7:40So that's that's the way they're looking at it.
- 7:43What do you think of this overall first milk and overall
- 7:46impression? I think it's great idea.
- 7:49It was sort of announced and then revealed very quickly,
- 7:52wasn't it? We'd already shot in a show last
- 7:55week, so we didn't really get to cover any of it.
- 7:58But yeah, a great idea. Jeremy said on the reveal show
- 8:03that, you know, they've been thinking about how they can
- 8:08improve, you know, get more sales of the cosmic cosmic line
- 8:14and they sort of recognised that with Mythic.
- 8:18And he's funny because I'd actually he's something Rich and
- 8:20I had talked about when we met up was and I'd said something
- 8:23very similar. The the cosmics possibly not as
- 8:27popular because there isn't the same pop and swap ability that
- 8:33they had straight away with mythics.
- 8:35The way I put it with to rich was it's orcs, it's gob goblins,
- 8:40it's humans, it's you know, there's no whereas these are
- 8:42characters and they're all very different.
- 8:45So you lose some of that pop and swap ability maybe.
- 8:47And, and this is a way for them to address this and you know,
- 8:52create a bit more of that pop and swap ability, which I think
- 8:55is a great idea and some very cool head options.
- 9:00Yeah, and I suppose worth noting as well, send out Congrats to
- 9:04our podcasting brother in arms. That's Eric Miller from the
- 9:08Mythic Enablers. But we also know Eric as EM
- 9:12Custom Parts. He's always had a table at
- 9:14Legions Con and he's done painting for some other
- 9:17companies before, but this is his first official paint work
- 9:22for the Four Horsemen and he's done four of the five sets.
- 9:26So I think the two female heads was the ones he didn't do.
- 9:30So that's the easiest way to yeah, to to kind of separate it.
- 9:36So he'd been working on these even before Legions Con.
- 9:39So I think summer last year, as far as I remember him saying so
- 9:46that's pretty cool. He knew about Ninny and then
- 9:48before Ninny and came out because he obviously had to
- 9:52paint the heads here for for Oleg.
- 9:57And yeah, I'm happy for Eric. I think.
- 10:00I believe he's kind of on board as one of their painters now.
- 10:03He'll be I think that's, that's how it sounds.
- 10:05Did yes. He's done a few more projects
- 10:07for them yet to be revealed. On the kind of a project basis,
- 10:11I guess. But yeah, great for him.
- 10:13Delighted to have. He's a phenomenal painter, does
- 10:17phenomenal customs, does phenomenal painted heads always
- 10:21he's. Incredible.
- 10:24Always snapped up extremely quickly if he ever puts stuff up
- 10:28for sale. So yeah, no surprise really that
- 10:34if they're going to reach out to the community, they're going to
- 10:36go for one of the best. Right.
- 10:41Next is having a look at the individual heads.
- 10:45So we got the Ninion open and close mouth here for Olek.
- 10:51So this is official now. Cosmic Snakes is official.
- 11:00Or just an alien with a snake like head I suppose.
- 11:06This head packs called the Serpent Soldier and this was one
- 11:12this was kind of teased on the little teaser to, you know,
- 11:17announce the live stream what it was going to be.
- 11:21So we had an idea this was going to happen straight up.
- 11:24And we weren't sure then whether, you know, there would
- 11:27be kind of, I don't know, the tail would come with it or, you
- 11:31know, whether there would be like arms and legs or upper
- 11:33legs, because I think the upper legs are new as well on the
- 11:38Minion in this kind of sculpt. But yeah, it's the two heads
- 11:42here. You see them.
- 11:44They match perfectly with Tiger himself, the grave ring one
- 11:52where he has the naked torso, you know, the kind of scaly
- 11:57whatever torso. So and it also comes with the
- 12:07other or you can put him on the other Oleg as well here.
- 12:11So what do you think Mal? Which is your favorite?
- 12:15Of these two, yeah, I love, I love the open mouth sculpt.
- 12:21I loved it when we got it on the Ninian Infantry and I think it
- 12:24looks fantastic in this, this build.
- 12:27Apparently they hadn't even thought about.
- 12:29And I can't remember who did they say?
- 12:33I can't remember who Jeremy said had sent him a picture of it
- 12:36looking like this and he was just like, yeah, that's that's
- 12:38awesome. But yeah, I I'll probably say
- 12:46that, but I've bought another buddy.
- 12:49But I might well try and get hold of one of the these buddies
- 12:51and display them like. This yeah, so they're going for
- 12:56the combo pack is 40 for the Gravering Tiger.
- 13:01That's a regular price figures that you're basically getting
- 13:04the heads for free and in the deluxe.
- 13:08So this tiger was a deluxe and you're getting him for 50 and
- 13:13plus the two heads, which I think is probably what he was.
- 13:17It might even be cheaper than what he was direct or no, he was
- 13:20maybe 45 direct. Was he back in the day?
- 13:22I can't. Remember.
- 13:23Yeah, it's, it's it's not far off, though, is it?
- 13:26It's it's a bargain of a pack. It's definitely, yeah, These
- 13:29packs are kind of set up that way.
- 13:31So yeah, what you really need. Though is you need to buy both
- 13:37of the Oleks and give him the bare arms on the other other
- 13:41pack to make him look really different.
- 13:44Oh yeah, that would be very cool A.
- 13:48Bunch of Oleg does. Did they say anything about
- 13:52retailers? Mel, do you remember?
- 13:55They did. I'm sure they said that the
- 13:58retailers will get these head packs the later date, a higher
- 14:02cost and they were still working out the combo pack and whether
- 14:07the retailers would do that and what price was on that if you
- 14:12know? Yeah, because we have mentioned
- 14:14before, but retailers have pretty much a full stock of
- 14:18cosmic legions. Maybe not every retailer has
- 14:21every cosmic Legions, but you can get all the cosmic legions
- 14:24figures pretty much aside from maybe Slog and even then I think
- 14:29he's back on Big Bad at retailers for the retail price.
- 14:35So I guess this will also maybe hopefully help those guys in the
- 14:39future. I thought this that's what this
- 14:42was in the 1st place. But as they're doing the packs,
- 14:46they obviously have a lot of inventory themselves because I
- 14:49doubt they're producing more inventory to go with these
- 14:53unless they really sell out. Yeah, so that's that's this one.
- 14:59Then we got the Greyborn pack. The one I would say with the
- 15:03with that the 1 little disappointment and it and I
- 15:06don't understand why it was to keep the cost down, but it is a
- 15:09bit of a shame they're not doing the tail with it as well.
- 15:12And I know, I know the argument is it's meant to be a cosmic
- 15:16character. So wouldn't necessarily have the
- 15:18tail either. But I think I'd have paid a
- 15:20little bit more and and had the tail with it.
- 15:23I'd have been happy with that because then you can move it
- 15:25over to an Indians as well and it's a different coloured
- 15:29Ninian, which would have been fun, a different type of Ninian.
- 15:33But yeah. But otherwise, yeah, it's
- 15:36awesome. Looks great.
- 15:37Yeah, I meant to say that as well.
- 15:38Yeah, the tail, I was surprised was not included, but this was,
- 15:42I understand for the price constraint, but at the same time
- 15:47having to buy an Indian to get A to customize it is costing a lot
- 15:51more. So I guess it's a tricky 1 for
- 15:56them. Greyborn SO2 heads here.
- 16:03In the original Greyborn pain scheme, I like to match the
- 16:07original Greyborn figure, which is this guy IS, isn't it?
- 16:17Yeah. IS sipped on.
- 16:18Yeah. So these are two brand new
- 16:23scopes apparently. I can't.
- 16:27Yes, That's right. Yes.
- 16:28Because the one where he's baring his teeth and then the
- 16:31other one is like the existing one but without the scar on his
- 16:35head. Gotcha.
- 16:36Yeah. Yeah.
- 16:37All right. I think they look cool.
- 16:39They're very cool. They are very cool, Yeah.
- 16:42So if you have, I think this is going to be for certain people
- 16:46that have, you know, maybe bought multiples of this one or
- 16:50want to do multiples of a kind of a grey Bourne because this is
- 16:52an iconic looking kind of an alien.
- 16:56So I wouldn't say this particular set is for me in that
- 17:04I wouldn't have probably multiples of this figure in my
- 17:08collection. So I wouldn't feel the need for
- 17:10it myself. But it is really cool for people
- 17:13that are collecting this, the grey horns, and maybe making a
- 17:18bit of an army of them, you know, I think it'll give it a
- 17:22really good variety. It's a it's a funny one.
- 17:25This is one of probably one of those sets of heads where I
- 17:29probably don't need to buy more figures to create more of them,
- 17:33but I'd I'd quite like the heads whether I display them
- 17:37separately or just have them there in case I want to swap the
- 17:39head on. IS yeah, that is another option,
- 17:42yeah. You could just have a rotating
- 17:45even if you had two in your display and then with the
- 17:48original head and these two, you could change them up a little
- 17:53bit. And the combo pack is 40 here.
- 17:57So again, super good value there.
- 18:01So can't argue that's three head sculpts in a $40 figure.
- 18:07Then we get to making pretty much a brand new character here
- 18:12in Cosmic Legions with the Iraqi gore head and tail.
- 18:19Then you can make your Kragner or an extra Kragner you have, or
- 18:23buy a Kragner and make him into a dragon dude.
- 18:27And considering that Araco was a lot of people's figure of the
- 18:31year in 2024, this is bound to be a popular set here.
- 18:38I guess you can make him if it's slightly different as well
- 18:40because he becomes a forearmed dragon as well so.
- 18:44Oh yeah, that's right. I keep forgetting that he has
- 18:48the forearms. Yeah, yeah, even though he's
- 18:50behind me or somewhere. I've got much for me at the
- 18:55moment. Yeah, so he's cool.
- 19:00Combo pack 68 and I think this is a custom that a good few
- 19:06people did originally. I've seen it.
- 19:12And why not? Because it is the dragon head we
- 19:15have in Mythic so far. I must admit, this is the one I
- 19:19probably won't bother with myself.
- 19:22It's very cool. But I, I mean, I've got my
- 19:28Kragnar and I've got, what's his name, Scourge with the Kragnar
- 19:34head, because I love the Kragnar head.
- 19:37And I don't know, I don't feel the need for another Dragocy
- 19:40character because we've got Araka Gore and we'll have them
- 19:49the big bad exclusive 1 and that I think I'm good with those.
- 19:53I don't need another one. Yeah.
- 19:56Stavros isn't it? This is one.
- 20:02Even if I didn't have an extra Kragner, I'd probably pick up a
- 20:05bit like you with the Greyborn. Just have the option I wanted to
- 20:08display him like that in the future if I wanted.
- 20:11Maybe a fiery dragon in mythic? That's a good way of getting a
- 20:17body for Iraq gore in mythic. Just need to get maybe the
- 20:23harness and the armored parts from a legion builder or some
- 20:28sort of another ogre figure. And there you go Specsians.
- 20:36Now we're in turn really entering your territory.
- 20:39So this this was a great idea with the specs in helmet.
- 20:43So this, this is really smart because the helmet could be
- 20:49still at the same character. It could be any character of
- 20:52that race because it's a helmet. So what's underneath, you know,
- 20:57could be a different character or you know, whatever.
- 21:01So it's not, it's not really kind of making it, it's making a
- 21:06character into a legion builder in a way.
- 21:10So you got. It's the mine worker and the
- 21:13block commander, isn't it? Yeah.
- 21:15Yeah, so. Yeah, Commander.
- 21:19No, it's a black commander, Yeah.
- 21:20Yes, it is the commander. Yeah, yeah.
- 21:22Yeah, prisoner is the blue 1, isn't it?
- 21:24That's it, yeah. Yeah, so what's your thoughts on
- 21:28these? Vexions are high on your list of
- 21:31figures. Yeah, Spexions are my favorites,
- 21:34if not my favorites. So really, yeah, I'll be picking
- 21:36up a few of these because I've actually, I've I've got a couple
- 21:44of block commanders, so I can add the one of them, give him
- 21:48that head. I quite like the idea of mixing
- 21:52up the miners. But I actually also I want to
- 21:55buy that head to maybe turn into a character in the shadow circle
- 22:04because I've seen a few people do a specs in in their shadow
- 22:06circle and. Oh yeah, yeah.
- 22:08I was planning to do something similar, although as you know,
- 22:12my shadow circle aren't all the same colour.
- 22:15They're all, yeah, they are different races, but I keep them
- 22:19as like looking like different races.
- 22:20It's more the the uniform that ties them together and that'd be
- 22:25a nice. So you don't need to do this
- 22:27guy, you know, in the blue or whatever, you can just pump the
- 22:30head just. Add the shadow circles onto the.
- 22:32That's it. Add the.
- 22:33Axis onto the armour. Yeah, yeah.
- 22:36So I'll probably that's a cool idea as well.
- 22:39But I love this idea, Yeah, because you could always have
- 22:45popped your commander head onto your prison guard and it works,
- 22:52whereas the prison guard head on the black commander didn't work
- 22:56because of the armor colour. Yeah, so the combo pack you get
- 23:01the two heads with the block commander for 50 and likewise
- 23:07you get the two heads for the mine worker for the 50 mine
- 23:12worker was something they didn't they said they didn't have any
- 23:14more stock of for shows and stuff.
- 23:17So I guess they might be producing a few more of aliens
- 23:21popular figure or they found some down the back of the couch.
- 23:28That's probably the combo pack. Or buy this one, yeah.
- 23:33Yeah, it's tempting. All right, That's tempting.
- 23:35Yeah. I actually want to buy a couple
- 23:37more mine workers the next time I'm doing an order from a
- 23:40retailer, so hopefully they'll still be in stock.
- 23:44They should be. Then the ladies.
- 23:46And so we got the trace head in blonde Caucasian skin and the
- 23:57dark skinned person of that Siri.
- 24:00Yes, there he in this. Is Siri Head?
- 24:02Yeah, yeah, you know, and. That apparently matches the.
- 24:07Yeah, the skin tone matches the Bastet figure, which.
- 24:11Got you. Yeah, make sure you.
- 24:13Eat another Bastet figure. There you go, Bastet.
- 24:17There you go. Syria.
- 24:21Yeah, these probably have the most use across multiple figures
- 24:28and multiple characters within mythic legions and cosmic
- 24:32legions, so they'll be popular for that.
- 24:35Of course, they're great on Zary there.
- 24:38As you see in the, you know, they don't necessarily need to
- 24:42match the uniforms. Of course you get the neck post
- 24:46as well in the same skin color, which is very important because
- 24:49otherwise it would look a bit weird I think.
- 24:53So that's just useful for all those different figures.
- 24:58You might be popping it on combo pack with Zeri 40.
- 25:02So that's pretty good because Zeri has 2 heads as well in the
- 25:061st place. So yeah, that's very good.
- 25:10There you see her on an elf, the trace head on an elf Legion
- 25:14builder, and the Zuri head on Best debt.
- 25:19As he said. Rich did send a message when
- 25:23this one was revealed to us saying not that trace head
- 25:27again. I.
- 25:30Didn't think we were going to drop him in with that, but all
- 25:31right, let's do it. He's not here to defend himself.
- 25:38I think he likes the head. I think he's probably seen too
- 25:42many replants, but I think he OK.
- 25:44It has been used in a good few figures, but I think also a lot
- 25:47of people have customized it and sometimes that can very.
- 25:51Popular head. Can blur the lines between
- 25:55what's official and what's. Not I don't mind it though.
- 25:57I actually really, really like this, this head.
- 25:59I'm one of the people who really likes this head and it's I've
- 26:02already got an idea of how I want to use it.
- 26:04I'm going to get a couple of this pack, so I've got Cosmic
- 26:07and I've got an idea for a custom with the Bastet figure.
- 26:15Yeah, head and a Mythic custom with the blonde.
- 26:20Head. So you leave the heads as is and
- 26:23you just, you customize all the body.
- 26:25Yeah. That feels like easier than that
- 26:29I. Definitely am the head.
- 26:31No, definitely if you can. If you can avoid repainting the
- 26:34head then it is a little bit easier depending.
- 26:40So the full team set then you can get so the figures you get
- 26:45Azeri figure, Oleg Tiger grave ring, Kragner figure and
- 26:51Icipitan figure and a sexy and block commander figure plus all
- 26:54the heads packs. So it's the five heads packs are
- 26:58character packs. They call them full team set for
- 27:02$225. So that's a, that's a pretty
- 27:06good deal. Yeah, it's a little bit less
- 27:09than even if you were to buy them all individually and
- 27:12they're already a good deal individually.
- 27:15So there we go. And that's that's going up from
- 27:22February the 3rd, I believe, next.
- 27:26Week. Is that next Monday?
- 27:28That's next week. Yeah, we're almost out of
- 27:30January. Can you believe it?
- 27:32Yeah, yeah, I know already. The 7th of February.
- 27:36Sorry, not the third. The 7th of February until the
- 27:3823rd. That's store horseman.com.
- 27:44Yeah. So yeah, so next for not the
- 27:47Friday coming, but the Friday after.
- 27:49So not the Friday that people might be listening to this, but
- 27:51next Friday. Yeah.
- 27:54And up until I think this Sunday, you have to order the
- 27:56book the 1st 10 years. I believe there'll be other ways
- 28:03to get it, like at retailers and stuff like that.
- 28:05But that is the cheapest. You'll get the book and figures
- 28:11and whatever the cheapest you get the Silver Knight.
- 28:14So, yeah. But yeah, so that was fun.
- 28:17I think that was pretty unexpected in terms of kind of
- 28:23what if we were when we were predicting the year, we didn't
- 28:26see a Cosmic Heads pack waiver, That's for sure.
- 28:29We'd have to be really fortune tellers to get that one.
- 28:35Again, a good idea though. Really good idea.
- 28:38Yeah, definitely. And it's a kind of a low, a bit
- 28:43of a low risk thing, if you know what I mean.
- 28:45They don't like it, it sells what it sells shouldn't cost
- 28:51them too much to produce. And if it manages to get some
- 28:57more people into Cosmic or get people to add more cosmic to
- 29:00their collections, than I think it's a job done for for this
- 29:04one. Well, and they and they did say
- 29:07if it proves successful, they'll do more.
- 29:10So yeah. Yeah, well, that's a great
- 29:13thing. It's a great segue into our the
- 29:15second-half of our chat about the heads backs here.
- 29:18So we had I'm going to bring up your few first man so.
- 29:24Yeah, cool. We had chatted about what are
- 29:28their heads we could maybe see repainted in Cosmic.
- 29:33And as I said, that's not to take anything away from these
- 29:36head slash character packs, but it's always interesting to see
- 29:41what the options are on the table.
- 29:43Yeah, so. Yeah, we've seen.
- 29:47So the Go Go helmet has started to be used and we've seen people
- 29:50use it for cosmic customs as a bit of a Boba Fett style helmet.
- 29:58Mandalorian, I should say I have style helmet.
- 30:02I hope David, our friend David Williams doesn't mind me using
- 30:05his picture there in the bottom corner to show what someone has
- 30:09done with it. There's obviously these plugs
- 30:14you can buy on Amazon that people are using to plug the
- 30:17side holes to give it more of a, you know, less of a more rounded
- 30:23look to that side, I guess, and fill those holes.
- 30:27It'd be kind of cool to see what the Horseman did and if the
- 30:30Horseman could create some plugs for those holes that gave it a
- 30:33more cosmic vibe. I think it could be a really fun
- 30:38head to and because it's quite unusual, it really does work for
- 30:43cosmic painting a couple up myself with different
- 30:48inspirations with no no plans, just I'll use at some point.
- 30:53So yeah, I think that'd be really cool.
- 30:56Yeah, when I saw the the shadow circle picture down here, at
- 31:01first I thought was, oh, did he come with the head?
- 31:03I forgot. Yeah, exactly.
- 31:05I mean. That's that's a good.
- 31:07David is, but it works. It really really works.
- 31:13And the one of the horns here, you wouldn't particularly use
- 31:15the horns in cosmic or. No, no, it was.
- 31:18Just you made them metallic. Yeah, like that might work.
- 31:23Perhaps, I don't know. The yeah, I don't know.
- 31:25I don't know. You'd kind of have to give it a
- 31:27go when you for that one. I mean, there's the wing, the
- 31:30ones as well that would. Fit.
- 31:31Yeah, they're cool as well. Yeah, yeah, you'd have to put
- 31:34thin metal as well. Yeah, paint them that that.
- 31:36Might actually work. Yeah, that's that could be quite
- 31:39cool. Yeah, as I say, it'd be quite
- 31:43cool to see the Horsemen design their own plugs for them as well
- 31:46that made them like that. Do you know the crusher head?
- 31:50It's one of my favourite heads in the line.
- 31:53They did do it in Auk colours for the War of the Aether Blade
- 32:02Orc builder pack. I use that on a cosmic custom
- 32:06that was inspired by 1 Curtis did for one of the pop and swap
- 32:11competitions. I I ripped off his idea.
- 32:14I did ask him first, of course, he doesn't mind, but I'd love to
- 32:18see. Especially if you're not selling
- 32:19it. Well, that's it, I'm.
- 32:20Just for my own, but it'd. Be cool to see a more cosmic up
- 32:27version of the head. So maybe painted up like Ziri?
- 32:29Maybe painted up like I've forgotten the name, thus the
- 32:37bounty hunter type character. This is bad wife.
- 32:41I forgot names. The one coming in Knox Crew one
- 32:46is it. No, no, give me a second.
- 32:48Italian Shun. That's the one Kelly and Shun,
- 32:52yeah. Walter uses the trace head we
- 32:55have forgotten. Yes, that's the one.
- 32:57So yeah. So, so I think that'd be a
- 32:59really cool head to be used as it because it's, you know, with
- 33:01it having like the bald side, which is what I'm showing off on
- 33:05the bottom there. Not the tattoos.
- 33:06It was more to show the haircut. You could repurpose that as a
- 33:10futuristic female, a bit of a road warrior female, something
- 33:14like that. So yeah.
- 33:16Oh definitely yeah. Scream good.
- 33:18Scream Mad Max with this one yeah big time.
- 33:20And when we're getting in, we're already in the wasteland kind of
- 33:23with the Ox crew waves, so. Yeah.
- 33:27And then this is. Probably enough wasteland.
- 33:29It's probably a bit a bit, I don't know.
- 33:32Premature or mean or harsh or it is not harsh because it's.
- 33:35But you know, yeah, they weren't going.
- 33:38To do an unreleased head, let's be.
- 33:39Honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 33:41So Fraxian heads, I'd love to see these in lots of colours.
- 33:47And you know, different Thraxians would be cool.
- 33:49You could paint this up like Tiger and have that blue, blue
- 33:55Thraxian and that would be really cool as well.
- 33:57So yeah, easy on there, but. Absolutely.
- 34:03Right. Let's go through a few more that
- 34:06we have pictures of here. So the alien head that came with
- 34:11the science officer, so you could literally do him in any
- 34:15alien colours. Of course.
- 34:18An interesting one, I guess for people now would have been the
- 34:21shadow circle one. But I think that that is one of
- 34:24the figures that's pretty hard to track down.
- 34:28Fisher Rice. It's probably selling out
- 34:30retailers. So I have, I have 4 for you
- 34:37here, so don't worry. Yeah, that's true.
- 34:43Yeah. But you could do it in a bunch
- 34:44of any sort of paint scheme. So I think they said the next
- 34:50one, the alien head that came with the sign the Sentry again
- 34:55that has been repainted, that did come in Shadow Circle.
- 35:00So that has been repainted in a couple of ways.
- 35:03And it also came in this year's Cosmic Legions regions can if
- 35:08you said something so. But again, this is the type of
- 35:12race where they could be all sorts of different colours and
- 35:14you know, you could do maybe real bright fluorescent one or
- 35:17something, but. Well, and, and I do wonder with
- 35:20these two heads, and I know what's coming next, if all three
- 35:23of the heads could actually be repurposed as cosmic heads as
- 35:28well as different demons. So maybe paint them at?
- 35:31Red mythic heads you mean? Sorry yeah.
- 35:33Could be used as mythic heads, perhaps painted at red fit Belfa
- 35:37gore or something like that maybe?
- 35:40That'd be quite fun. Yeah.
- 35:41I mean the paint would have to do a lot of the work there, but
- 35:44I think they, the horsemen are able to definitely do that.
- 35:47So that would be definitely an option.
- 35:50Because I think that was something they achieved with
- 35:52this head, the heads packed with them done is it felt like it
- 35:55could easily be adapted to mythic or to those people who
- 36:00want more, a bit more going on with Cosmic, didn't it?
- 36:02So yeah. Definitely, yeah.
- 36:05And then this, this alien head that came with the female
- 36:11engineer Legion builder first cosmic wave.
- 36:14So again, this could be done in a number of different colours.
- 36:19There isn't you could, you know, there isn't that many female
- 36:22bodies in in cosmic, but they're pretty much all armoured.
- 36:29So I tell. You what?
- 36:30She'd look quite creepy and a little bit how razorish if she
- 36:35was done in human flesh colour or pale fewer flesh colour.
- 36:39Yeah, really creepy. Decayed.
- 36:41Yeah, yeah, maybe decaying or or translucent.
- 36:44Now your favorite. Oh yeah, you know I love a bit
- 36:47I. Suppose we should take it for as
- 36:48read. All these heads would would be
- 36:50fine and translucent for you. Yeah, yeah.
- 36:53Anything. Anything translucent for me is
- 36:56probably going to sell. Yeah, then this helmet here that
- 37:00came with Kelly and Chun, again, this is one that could, that
- 37:04could be done, you know, a number of different ways.
- 37:09But there isn't that many female bodies yet in Cosmic, so
- 37:15probably not. And then again, that's the trace
- 37:18head, so we already have it in this pack, Greg narrated.
- 37:22Hey, I love Greg. Could have done them.
- 37:24Any paint scheme you want to give it to me?
- 37:26Yeah. Could have done them in the
- 37:27blue. Yeah, as we're about to say, we
- 37:30need the Iraq ago one, we need a black one now for the Oh yeah,
- 37:34for us. First Iraq.
- 37:35Yeah, that's probably, Yeah. It's probably too early for that
- 37:40one, because even though people know it's coming, they'd be
- 37:42wondering what if they weren't in the know?
- 37:45Like a lot of us people who follow every move of the
- 37:49horsemen, they wouldn't really know.
- 37:51Why are they doing in black? Yeah, Yeah.
- 37:55So yeah, I think Kragner in blue would have been cool, but then
- 37:58that wouldn't have that would have kind of crossed the cosmic
- 38:01thing. You know, this is that same head
- 38:05from Cali and so from the engineer and so and Byra
- 38:09Jambira. I thought about including her in
- 38:12my list as well. I I know she got a lot of stick
- 38:15for that but I really like it. Yeah, and you could do it in a
- 38:21different colour, obviously. This could also be done in a way
- 38:27to work in Mythic, maybe with the vampires or something like
- 38:29that. I don't know where the demons
- 38:32is, always works with the scorpion tale.
- 38:36But yeah, again, the female heads in cosmic, you're probably
- 38:41only talking about Caesarean, the engineer that's widely
- 38:45available. Maybe Calian as well, but she's
- 38:48very specifically a character, so be tricky.
- 38:52But again, that's always a head that they can definitely use in
- 38:56the future. Novian lean.
- 38:58So we had the open mouthed one in the Cosmic Legions legions
- 39:04compact and we could there's a number of things you could do.
- 39:08You could get the the closed mouth one in that paint scheme.
- 39:12You could just do an entirely new paint scheme for Novian
- 39:15lean. Again, I think they would have
- 39:18done put this one in the heads pack if it hadn't been recently
- 39:22in the cosmic legions pack. But a great head and I think,
- 39:30you know, especially the close mouth one could maybe be used as
- 39:34a more generic type of character from that race.
- 39:38You know I used to one off. I included him in my list of
- 39:44sort of what I thought would be cool because I again painted and
- 39:48not that I would think like Tiger was amazing and the
- 39:50colours are amazing. I mean, I like it.
- 39:52It's but again, it's another one.
- 39:54It'd be quite fun painted up in that tiger colour just because
- 39:57it's so bright and different to what how we've got it already.
- 40:03That's true. Make a totally different
- 40:04character. Then we got this.
- 40:09That's the same alien from the science officer.
- 40:13So that's just to show you what they can do.
- 40:16So slog again might be a tricky 1 because slugs hands and arms
- 40:23are his particular colour, but they could have made it, could
- 40:27have, I don't know, done maybe a slightly more decayed slug like
- 40:32if the helmet bubble was coming off or something, that would
- 40:35have been an option. Oh yeah.
- 40:37But again, maybe a repaint of of slug down the line.
- 40:42You know it might be more in order.
- 40:48Sandy on helmeted has sexy in heads.
- 40:52So we actually have two here. We have the one from the mine
- 40:56worker as well with the tongue sticking out and we have the one
- 40:59from the block commander I. So what was your ideas for this
- 41:02one now? You just, I mean as they can do
- 41:05as many of them as they want and whatever style they want, but I
- 41:09actually think this is the one. We are one of the ones we are
- 41:12most likely to get if they do, if they do more, and I think
- 41:17they'll do it when they to match the, the the prison.
- 41:21What's he called the prison officer.
- 41:25I've got me notes and prison guard, Prison guard.
- 41:28They're here, which would be awesome to get the because I
- 41:31love the unhelmeted Faxian head as well.
- 41:34It's it's got so much character in it, both of them.
- 41:39So yeah, that'd be really cool to get for the prison guard.
- 41:41And then you could have a mixture of helmeted and
- 41:43unhelmeted prison guards in in your tent that I might have got.
- 41:49They could throw in a set of hands maybe with this stuff that
- 41:52we're going to do a different colour scheme.
- 41:53That would be nice. Yeah.
- 41:54I think that's that's the only thing because OK, also these
- 41:58mandibles that come out from the body here in the middle, but I
- 42:04don't know. I'm they annoy me because they
- 42:07don't. I can look at them.
- 42:10I've got my miner set up without the wings just to save a bit of
- 42:14space. Yeah, yeah.
- 42:16But yeah, they they seem to be OK now, but initially there.
- 42:20Was maybe it was in the 1st wave, Yeah, yeah, the miners.
- 42:24Oh no, it was hard to get in on the miner.
- 42:25It was. Sligor, that head that's been
- 42:32repainted already, Yeah, but but.
- 42:35It's a great. Head again.
- 42:36It's a great head. It's been repainted in mythic I
- 42:39think, isn't it? It's no, it's on the in the
- 42:43latest Ox crew wave, isn't it? It's one of the heads for the
- 42:50characters that comes with them that teams up with Cal.
- 42:57God names Escape Haven. Kern, Ray.
- 43:09Kern Ray. Yeah, it's one of her buddies.
- 43:12He's got that head. Oh, is it OK?
- 43:15Yeah, I'm going to get Sauce horse minute so I can.
- 43:21Hi, it's Hylar. Yeah, the blue in the blue.
- 43:24Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool.
- 43:31Vorga here again, if you get Vorgo with the upper arms as
- 43:37well and just do them in a different colour, then I think
- 43:43we could have an entirely new character, especially the the
- 43:48Vorgo with the mouth, the the kind of gas mask head, because
- 43:52that could be a bit more generic, although it has the
- 43:56ponytail, but you know, it could be that species just in a
- 43:59different colour. But she also has an unmasked Ted
- 44:05scope. So yeah.
- 44:09Oh, like Tiger could do Minion colours maybe?
- 44:14Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool. That'd.
- 44:16Be cool to crossover with the with Mythic a bit, but again,
- 44:21he's very much the main character in Cosmic so.
- 44:25That was my sort of, yeah, avoided because it feels a bit.
- 44:28I just put him in here as a million.
- 44:30He's an option, but yes, maybe not a good option.
- 44:35He does feel like the character, doesn't he?
- 44:37In the whole cosmic, sort of. Yes, and now we get into mythic
- 44:45heads that could maybe crossover.
- 44:47A furnace was one that'd be cool.
- 44:50You could do in a, you know, any sort of a colour scheme.
- 44:58Maybe the rich richest suggestion here from his notes.
- 45:01Maybe something like stone could work in cosmic metallic as well.
- 45:08Could work, I think, in a cosmic context.
- 45:11I think you could do anything with him because, OK, he's got
- 45:14that because of the way he's painted.
- 45:16He gives off tree vibes. But I think if those ears are
- 45:21quite aquatic, those ears slash leas could be made to look a bit
- 45:25quite a bit aquatic. Or you know, something like
- 45:29that. I don't know.
- 45:31You make them look more like horns.
- 45:34Speaking of horns, yeah, grotos very good space gold.
- 45:38I mean, yeah, it could nearly just pop it on.
- 45:41Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it could. You're really good.
- 45:44We don't quite have the Cosmic dwarf scale yet, but I think he
- 45:49could work on the taller cosmic body.
- 45:52But yeah, make him maybe a little bit more sci-fi looking
- 45:57even in the eyes and you know, give it a slightly a slightly
- 46:02more bold colour scheme. This one looks very realistic.
- 46:07So yeah, in terms of but yeah, I think that would be a cool one
- 46:12that would possibly crossover to Cosmic.
- 46:15We go through a few more of what Rich had.
- 46:18So he he suggests. I'm not going to bring up
- 46:20pictures here now because I don't have them to hand.
- 46:23So that's just going to be too much hassle.
- 46:26Arot here without the face mask, says big eyes look almost alien.
- 46:32The huge ears which give an alien feel painted in some sort
- 46:38of pearlescence colour would be great.
- 46:39What do you think? I, I, I mean, I, I think there
- 46:45are people who would like that. I I think that Arathea head
- 46:49looks weird without the, you know, without the visor on.
- 46:55Yeah, but I think that's his point.
- 46:57It looks so maybe it would. Work, Yeah.
- 46:59Oh yeah. I think that plenty of people
- 47:01would like it those things to be, yeah.
- 47:06Belfagor then. Yeah, it works for everything.
- 47:10He's such a good head. Yeah.
- 47:13Black coloring maybe would work well.
- 47:16Remove the horns. Now, the horns aren't removable
- 47:20in the figure, but maybe they're removable in the factory.
- 47:23But I think, I think they're glued in.
- 47:25They're like a separate tool or whatever.
- 47:28I'm not sure. Yeah, I could see better work.
- 47:30Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely. Yeah.
- 47:33I don't think you need to either.
- 47:34Or maybe make them. This is a make them metallic or
- 47:36some sort of shiny fluorescent color.
- 47:41Gives it more alien vibes. The hood, the elf Ranger, the
- 47:46unhooded head. That could work.
- 47:51I don't know if we have a build in cosmic yet for for that head.
- 47:55Female builds, yeah, possibly. We don't have a 1.0 male so that
- 47:58would be the only thing holding the back.
- 48:01But other than that, yeah definitely agree.
- 48:07Grisha again could be some eases because it could be some sort of
- 48:15alien race that likes wearing fancy armor, really bright
- 48:19metallics or. Aged.
- 48:23To look like ancient armor. That could work, Yeah.
- 48:28I think they're making it look like they're wearing because
- 48:31there's obviously the shoulder piece that Callie shouldn't
- 48:38comes with that's obviously meant to be like an ancient
- 48:41armor piece. So you could sort of Grisha's
- 48:45helmet could be something similar, couldn't it?
- 48:47That would work, yeah. Again, it's the 1.0 male build
- 48:53though, isn't it? That No, Yeah.
- 48:56I suppose it would work on the female, then you just have to.
- 48:59Yes. True or you know, this might be
- 49:02just a whole new character so maybe part of a future wave
- 49:06rather than heads back. So you know, but you know rich,
- 49:10he always he doesn't worry about the tutoring budget.
- 49:12You know another one that I don't think you could just pop
- 49:17on a figure that exists is the Hellfire goblin.
- 49:20And but yeah, bright green tongue, bright scaly skin.
- 49:24Of course that would really work.
- 49:26I wonder if. That will work on the new
- 49:30because I feel like. Isn't the connection maybe on
- 49:32the new? Yeah, yeah, I'm just talking
- 49:34about what's out now. Maybe screw I mean.
- 49:37I read a lot of the idea of the Hellfire goblin being used in
- 49:41cosmic. I think that would be really
- 49:42cool. I actually have a custom with
- 49:45the Hellfire goblin. Yeah, I don't I'd have to.
- 49:49I have to see how these new space suits work because they
- 49:52don't show them disassembled, you know, like the front panels
- 49:55taken off. So he wouldn't work in the if
- 49:59the if you can't take that kind of if that space suit isn't kind
- 50:03of like the way. The Yeah, because the.
- 50:06Armor is today where you can take that kind of upper armor
- 50:08out. What else has he got here,
- 50:13Lucretia? I was thinking vampires.
- 50:15I mean, we already had the OK, it wasn't particularly cosmic,
- 50:18but it would work. Was the red vampire in the
- 50:21cosmic Legions? Legions compact.
- 50:23In Cosmic, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you can use it in
- 50:26cosmic, but you could also use it in mythic as a fury vampire
- 50:29or whatever. But because Lucretia has no no
- 50:35visible teeth, so not obviously a vampire, I wouldn't even that
- 50:39wouldn't even bother me that it would look like a vampire.
- 50:44So but yeah, some sort of an alien species paint scheme.
- 50:47Like I guess you could even put like little patches with paint
- 50:51on the head, you know, to give her a pattern that would be very
- 50:55cool. Again with my feet or Thistle
- 51:00torrent. Sure, but we don't have to build
- 51:02that. They work on you.
- 51:03That's true, yeah. So Vortec space orc?
- 51:09Sure, why not? You know that could go on your
- 51:12Fisher rice. Again, they repainted.
- 51:18He doesn't necessarily look, you know, make his beard more
- 51:22separated and he could be just more, as much as Richard hate
- 51:27it, more humanoid. Yeah, I mean I like I have my
- 51:31brave fighters head on the heavy gunner or have like a.
- 51:36Yes, yeah, which was cool as well, so.
- 51:39Yeah, absolutely. And then Zaria again.
- 51:43The problem is the build. Oh no, that would work on the
- 51:47engineer I think. Yeah, yeah, he put her.
- 51:49On the builder, even on. What's the name?
- 51:54Zero. Yeah.
- 51:54Yeah, and then yeah, crazy colour scheme alien to bright
- 52:00colour scheme with tattoos. It's another one isn't it that
- 52:04OK it's a demon in mythic but move that into space and it
- 52:09could just be an alien. Doesn't matter out the horns or
- 52:11anything like that. Absolutely.
- 52:14Yeah. So that's that.
- 52:19We have a lot of fun stuff coming up.
- 52:21In terms of Legions. We obviously have Necronominus
- 52:25that we're soon going to get an e-mail in our inbox going, oh,
- 52:28it's arrived and it's going to be shipping soon.
- 52:31So that'll be the hype for that. Then there'll be the the
- 52:34shipping notice drama in the Cabal quite possibly.
- 52:41And then we get them and we'll review them, talk about them.
- 52:47I'm sure we like them for sure. But I'm.
- 52:49Sure we will. They look amazing.
- 52:52And then there'll be a lots of fun customs popping up, people
- 52:57that have waited two years to get those pieces that they want
- 53:01to make the costume with, etcetera, etcetera.
- 53:03So this is fun for me as well because this was the wave that
- 53:08was revealed at our first Legions con.
- 53:11Yeah. So that's always, that's a cycle
- 53:13come around, you know? Yeah, Yeah.
- 53:15That feels like a in the cycle of something and then taken fast
- 53:20after that with the All Star 6 and the next Ox crew.
- 53:24That should be all in the first half ish of this year and
- 53:30whether it'll be getting better. I won't have to be making
- 53:35customs at the moment and even though it's warm in the house,
- 53:39somehow you have to heat the stuff more than in the summer.
- 53:45It just like I'm literally using hot water for full figures and
- 53:51then if I just want to do thing I'm like having to use the hair
- 53:54dryer for. Well, a lot of many.
- 53:56You've painted it and you're blasting it with, I don't know
- 53:59about you, but I'm like, Oh my God, I'm going to start melting
- 54:02it with the paint on. Oh yeah, I have to, I have to
- 54:05practice extreme patience there because I'm always, when I've
- 54:08got to the end and I usually then do, you know, do the
- 54:13varnish coat or whatever, and maybe even the second one
- 54:18depending on, on how it feels after the first one.
- 54:22And then I leave it overnight before I put it together.
- 54:25And that is like, I have once or twice not being able to do that
- 54:30because I've been so excited about it.
- 54:31But the best thing is because you really have much better
- 54:34chance of stuff not rubbing, you know, if you do it too soon,
- 54:39things can just be slightly more rebuffable.
- 54:43And then over time it tends to cure quite well, I find, you
- 54:49know? So yeah, the longer customs
- 54:52done, the less likely it is to have paint rub.
- 54:54So yeah, just extreme patience. But yeah, I'm having a lot of
- 54:59fun with the cosmic customs. Couple more on the table, kind
- 55:06of ready to be brined. They're fun.
- 55:09Did a rhino one this week. So next week going to be using
- 55:15the Ninian body and some of the double neck from Mark Calvo, the
- 55:20double snake neck and a few other things.
- 55:24We're going to have Snakes in Space.
- 55:30All right, well, we missed you this week, Rich.
- 55:33But yeah, if you're on the Patreon, the TV series look
- 55:38ahead for the year is up. So we had movies the previous
- 55:42week, TV series. We'll soon be getting going with
- 55:46Rich's interview series when he recovers from whatever is ailing
- 55:51him at the moment. Hopefully nothing too serious.
- 55:55But, yeah, so that was a short bite this week.
- 55:57But it's just the two of us. And so, you know, usually Rich
- 56:02is the one that has the most to say about this kind of stuff.
- 56:06The opinionated sub that is. Yeah, but it'll be, it'll be a
- 56:11nice handy one for me to edit on the Thursday morning.
- 56:14So all good. Cheers.
- 56:17Better pay the outro, I suppose. That's it.
- 56:25And I guess it's my turn to say stay safe