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Hour 3 - This Will Anger You to Vote · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Hour three. Clay and Buck kicks off now. We are
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  Speaker 2: staying laser focused on the midterms, which are just days
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  Speaker 2: away now. Get out and vote. Get out and vote
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  Speaker 2: or Clay will shame you. We have now Senator John
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  Speaker 2: Husted with us. He is from the great state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: And Senator, you got to win, sir. I just I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what else to say. You got to win.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us how you're going to win.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're working as hard as we possibly can. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that I could be more places in Ohio
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  Speaker 3: than I've been from the river to the lake to
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  Speaker 3: the Indiana border to the Pennsylvania border. We've been everywhere
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  Speaker 3: reminding people about what we've done to fight for them,
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  Speaker 3: meaning working family tax cut plan, no tax on tips
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  Speaker 3: over time or social security, helping families get ahead and
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  Speaker 3: reminding them that I led the economic revitalization of Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: And today in Ohio, we have the most jobs and
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  Speaker 3: the lowest unemployment rate in our history. And if you
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  Speaker 3: elect Democrats, if you elect Sherry Brown, you will destroy.
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  Speaker 3: all of that momentum that we are creating, you will
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  Speaker 3: destroy the future of our state and our nation because
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  Speaker 3: this guy has been in office for over 50 years.
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  Speaker 3: And everywhere I go, I ask the question, what has
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  Speaker 3: Sherrod Brown done to make your life better? And nobody
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  Speaker 3: can come up with a single thing. They recognize he's
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  Speaker 3: had 50 years of failure that included higher taxes, shutting
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  Speaker 3: down power plants that raises their electric bills, a radical
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  Speaker 3: left-wing agenda that represents Washington, not Ohio.
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  Speaker 4: So Trump won the state of Ohio by about 11 points.
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  Speaker 4: Bernie Marino beat this same guy, Sherrod Brown, running in 2024.
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  Speaker 4: But a part of me thinks there's probably because you
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  Speaker 4: just laid it out. He's been in office for so long.
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  Speaker 4: I bet you're running into a lot of people who
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  Speaker 4: think he's still in office, meaning there are a lot
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  Speaker 4: of Ohioans out there that are so used to him
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  Speaker 4: being there and doing nothing that they still think he's there.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a little bit of that when you're on
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  Speaker 2: the campaign trail?
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  Speaker 4: And how might that impact things when people are upset
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  Speaker 4: about the direction of the country? You've got to be
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  Speaker 4: upset with a guy who was there for nearly 50 years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's not the change agent, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: He tries to portray himself as one, but it's just
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  Speaker 3: all phony baloney and everybody knows it. He had 50
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  Speaker 3: years in office. A lot of people still think he's
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  Speaker 3: in office. Remember this, in the last two elections, he
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  Speaker 3: will have spent and the Democrats will have spent over
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  Speaker 3: a half a billion dollars on him. So he has 100%
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  Speaker 3: name ID. Most of it's negative. And I honestly believe
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  Speaker 3: that if people are upset with the direction of the country,
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  Speaker 3: more people blame him than me. I've been there for
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  Speaker 3: 18 months and I have cut taxes for people. We
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  Speaker 3: have the most jobs and the lowest unemployment rate we've
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  Speaker 3: ever had in our state's history. And Sherrod Brown has
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  Speaker 3: done nothing but jack up their taxes, including jacking up
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  Speaker 3: their tax on gasoline, shutting down refineries, power plants, all
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  Speaker 3: of the things that we need to create the supply
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  Speaker 3: to meet demand. They don't see him as the solution
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  Speaker 3: to the problem. They see him as the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Senator, this may be in some ways more in
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  Speaker 2: the purview of.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps governor ramaswamy than yours but i am curious to
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  Speaker 2: have you weigh in on you mentioned power um these
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  Speaker 2: data centers it's become a big issue it's a big
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  Speaker 2: issue in texas i know it's an issue in ohio
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  Speaker 2: as well what do you think about how this should
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  Speaker 2: be handled because right on the one hand you've got
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  Speaker 2: progress jobs uh tax revenue all these things the other
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  Speaker 2: hand you've got quality of life water and electricity prices
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  Speaker 2: i mean you have this push pull where do you
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  Speaker 2: come down on.
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  Speaker 3: That Yeah, well, in every interview I do, I remind
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  Speaker 3: people that this interview would not be possible without a
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  Speaker 3: data center. If you use your mobile phone, you're using
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  Speaker 3: a data center. You watch streaming, you're using a data center.
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  Speaker 3: So they're part of our daily lives. But the deal is,
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  Speaker 3: let's make sure that you only put them where people
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  Speaker 3: want them. If you're a community that doesn't want them,
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  Speaker 3: that should be decided at the local level. The federal
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  Speaker 3: government shouldn't tell you whether you have one or you
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  Speaker 3: don't have one. But the one thing that extends beyond
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  Speaker 3: the community is electric prices, okay? I had a bill.
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  Speaker 3: I have a bill pending in Congress that would require
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  Speaker 3: data centers to pay for all of the electricity generation
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  Speaker 3: and infrastructure, saving the local and state rate payers a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of money because the data centers will pay for
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  Speaker 3: the cost, not them. It passed the House. 417 to 3,
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  Speaker 3: 206 Democrats voted for it. But when it got back
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  Speaker 3: over to the Senate, Chuck Schumer blocked it. He blocked
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  Speaker 3: the bill that I had to require this because, frankly,
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  Speaker 3: Sherrod Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted him to.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't want me to get a win. They didn't
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  Speaker 3: want me to solve the problem. Here's the deal, folks.
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  Speaker 3: Democrats want to talk about affordability and data centers, but
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to do anything to help fix the problem.
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  Speaker 3: I have legislation to do that. It could be law
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  Speaker 3: today if Chuck Schumer hadn't blocked it. We'll get it
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  Speaker 3: done when I return to the Congress and to the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Senate.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll hold data centers accountable. And that should fix
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  Speaker 3: most of the problems that people are complaining about.
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  Speaker 4: You are about to head to a Donald Trump rally
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  Speaker 4: in Ohio. What is the impact of Donald Trump rallies
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  Speaker 4: in Ohio from your perspective? How do they move the
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  Speaker 4: race and what is their significance in your experience?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they motivate people. They remind people there's an election.
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  Speaker 3: It helps us gather thousands of people, reach hundreds of
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  Speaker 3: thousands of people directly and talk to them about the
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  Speaker 3: election and what's at stake. The president will have been
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  Speaker 3: here three times in less than 30 days. This tells
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  Speaker 3: you a lot about how the president's going to be
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  Speaker 3: here three times, maybe four. The vice president's been here
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  Speaker 3: three times, maybe four in a 30 day period. We're
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  Speaker 3: bringing in people like Tim Scott and John Kennedy and
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  Speaker 3: my colleagues from all over the country. The Democrats aren't
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  Speaker 3: bringing anyone into Ohio except they had Barack Obama one
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  Speaker 3: time in Cleveland to try to turn out the vote
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  Speaker 3: on the weekends in inner city Cleveland. But the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: are not showing their face in Ohio. They're trying to
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  Speaker 3: hide what their national agenda is about. We're trying to
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  Speaker 3: promote it, which means secure the borders, cut taxes, open
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  Speaker 3: up new resources with and refineries and power plants to
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  Speaker 3: help lower prices for gas and oil and electricity. President
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  Speaker 3: being here really helps us get the message out because
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  Speaker 3: he won Ohio by 11 points. If we get those
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  Speaker 3: same voters to turn out, which it looks like we are,
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  Speaker 3: the early voting numbers are on track for us, right
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  Speaker 3: where we need them to be to win, all of
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  Speaker 3: it's helpful.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you that. Sorry to cut off, Buck,
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  Speaker 4: but we asked Mike Rogers about those two. We've been
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  Speaker 4: encouraging people to get out and vote as early as
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  Speaker 4: they can. What are those early voting numbers telling you?
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  Speaker 4: And we got a big audience all throughout the state
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  Speaker 4: of Ohio, Cincinnati's listening, Columbus, and also Cleveland. What would
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  Speaker 4: you tell everybody listening right now in Ohio they need
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  Speaker 4: to do and what the data is showing you so far?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they need to get out and vote. And I
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  Speaker 3: have fresh data here. I'm looking right at it. It
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  Speaker 3: basically says that the turnout in 2026 is the same
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  Speaker 3: as the turnout it was in 2022. It's slightly elevated.
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  Speaker 3: in terms of like, we've got 120, 20% of the
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  Speaker 3: people or 120% of the early vote is, is outpacing
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  Speaker 3: where it was two years ago. But the mix in
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  Speaker 3: terms of Republicans and Democrats is right where it was
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  Speaker 3: in 2022. And what happened in 2022, JD Vance won
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  Speaker 3: by seven, Governor DeWine and I won by 25. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not predicting that we're going to win by 25 or seven.
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  Speaker 3: There are other issues. It's a midterm election in which
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  Speaker 3: the Republicans are in charge, which makes it harder to
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  Speaker 3: But but the numbers look good. And if vote if
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  Speaker 3: literally if Republicans get out to vote like they have
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  Speaker 3: done in the past, we will win.
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  Speaker 2: Just wondering what you can tell us about the national
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  Speaker 2: Democrat effort to infuse cash outside dollars. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: media attention. How have they been trying to make Ohioans vote?
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  Speaker 2: forget what it's like to have Democrats in charge? What
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  Speaker 2: kind of campaigns are they running and where's the money
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  Speaker 2: coming from?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're hiding a lot of their candidates, frankly. They're
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  Speaker 3: not debating. They're not doing a lot of public appearances.
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  Speaker 3: They're not doing a lot of difficult media interviews because
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to talk. They just want to try
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  Speaker 3: to blame everything that's going wrong in the world on
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  Speaker 3: Republicans or on President Trump and just hope that they
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  Speaker 3: can create enough anger at the president to bring all
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  Speaker 3: Republicans down. That is their strategy. They have nothing to offer.
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  Speaker 3: Socialism is not welcome in Ohio. We didn't become a
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  Speaker 3: state that elected Donald Trump two years ago by 11
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  Speaker 3: points and all of a sudden say, no, we want
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  Speaker 3: El-Sayed Madami and Sherrod Brown. That's the agenda we want
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  Speaker 3: for Ohio. We just got to remind them about what's
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  Speaker 3: at stake.
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  Speaker 2: But is Sherrod Brown, is he doing the Biden thing of,
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  Speaker 2: I've been around forever, so of course I'm moderate, even
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  Speaker 2: though if he becomes a senator, he's going to vote
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  Speaker 2: with the radical left that controls his party. 99% of
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  Speaker 2: the time. Is that his, what's his move? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're mentioning that they're trying to keep them out of
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  Speaker 2: the public eye, which I get why they're doing that.
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  Speaker 2: But to the degree that Sherrod Brown is actually taking
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  Speaker 2: positions on anything, is he pulling the guys? I'm not
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  Speaker 2: that crazy. Like my party, my party is the crazy thing,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm normal.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, he's just running attack ads against me and lying.
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  Speaker 3: He's lying, lying, lying. Um, And that's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I asked this question to voters. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: can you name one thing? He's been in office for
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  Speaker 3: over 50 years. Can you name one thing that he's
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  Speaker 3: done to make your life better? Because he's not running
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  Speaker 3: any ads about anything he's ever done to help people
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  Speaker 3: in Ohio. I think it's pretty embarrassing, frankly. If you've
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  Speaker 3: been in office for 50 years, isn't there one thing
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  Speaker 3: that you've done that's helped the people of Ohio you'd
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  Speaker 3: like to talk about? Not with him. He just runs
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  Speaker 3: dishonest attack ads against me. That's his strategy.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, President Trump has been praising your athletic ability, even
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  Speaker 4: your physique. Now, I know you're a former football player
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  Speaker 4: in college. I think you had some success at defensive
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  Speaker 4: back back in the day. Was the president shocked by
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  Speaker 4: your athletic prowess? And do you feel pressure to be
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  Speaker 4: in good physical shape when the president's talking about what
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  Speaker 4: a badass you are?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because he was in Dayton and John
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  Speaker 3: Gruden showed up for the event. And the president said
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  Speaker 3: to Gruden, he said, what are you doing here? He said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm here to support my teammate. And he says, who's
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  Speaker 3: your teammate? He said, John Husted, I played football with
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  Speaker 3: him in college. And he said, I didn't know Husted
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  Speaker 3: played football. And Gruden told him, he's like, yeah, he
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  Speaker 3: won a national championship. He had 17 interceptions. He was
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  Speaker 3: a defensive back. He used to jack people up. And
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  Speaker 3: the president was like, are you serious? He didn't know
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  Speaker 3: that about me. Because frankly, I just don't, it's a
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  Speaker 3: long time ago. I don't talk about that stuff. I
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  Speaker 3: stay focused on, you know, kind of serving the public
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  Speaker 3: and not living, living in my glory days. And, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and so the president I think was, was, uh, impressed
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  Speaker 3: to learn all of those things. And, and then he
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  Speaker 3: punched me on the shoulder and he realized that, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: this guy spent some time in the weight room. And,
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  Speaker 3: and so after he started to say a few of
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  Speaker 3: these things, my wife, I said to my wife, I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I feel the pressure now to get down in the
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  Speaker 3: basement and spend some time in the weight room. I
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  Speaker 3: got to rip a tape.
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  Speaker 2: I think you may be the first Senator slash Senate
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  Speaker 2: candidate in American history to have a sitting president praise
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  Speaker 2: your gluteus Maximus, which is what happened. Well, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: I'll take it. There's a lot worse.
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  Speaker 2: What else are you going to do?
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  Speaker 4: 17 interceptions. 17 interceptions is a ton of interceptions. Who
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  Speaker 4: are you playing against? Jameis Winston?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what? I had a walk-off moment in
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  Speaker 3: our final game. I intercepted the pass to end the game.
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  Speaker 3: We won the national championship in our division. We weren't
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  Speaker 3: Division I, but... But, you know, that's a walk-off moment
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  Speaker 3: for you. The last play you ever played, I have
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  Speaker 3: a pick to win a national championship. That was great
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  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to intercept it from Sherrod Brown on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: All right, buddy, you're going to run it home for
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  Speaker 2: the touchdown. Stay in the fight, sir. Senator, appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: And what's your website in case anybody wants to just
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  Speaker 2: help however they can these last days?
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  Speaker 3: We need you. JohnHustedForSenate.com, J-O-N-H-U-S-T-E-D for Senate.com. Please send your
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  Speaker 3: money and your love our way. We need it. Your prayers.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I have so many people that
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  Speaker 3: tell me they're praying for me. That's a big deal, too.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, thoughts, prayers, and our hearts go with you.
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  Speaker 2: We're with you. Thank you. Thank you. I really like
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  Speaker 2: that guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's great.
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  Speaker 2: He's great. I think it'll be a fun.
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  Speaker 4: I bet Trump's going to lean in even more on
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  Speaker 4: that because he's getting criticized. And some people, Buck, you
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  Speaker 4: may have noticed when criticism comes, some people back away.
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  Speaker 4: Other people lean into it and actually double and triple
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  Speaker 4: and quadruple down. I'm betting President Trump is going to
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  Speaker 4: go all in on the physique compliments for John Husted,
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  Speaker 4: talked with Mike Rogers up in Michigan. We just talked
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  Speaker 4: with John Husted as he's getting ready for President Trump
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  Speaker 4: to have a rally in Ohio. We are going to
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  Speaker 4: all of the battlegrounds right now, across the United States. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: story from the ground from you. And I thought, Buck,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of news angles that stood out to me.
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  Speaker 4: Mike Rogers said he thinks he can pick up 35,000
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  Speaker 4: Jewish voters In Michigan, remember, he only lost by 17
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  Speaker 4: or 18,000. He also thinks he can pick up a
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  Speaker 4: lot of black voters relative to what has traditionally happened.
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  Speaker 4: And both of these guys told us in Michigan and
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  Speaker 4: in Ohio, Republican early voters are showing up well. and
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  Speaker 4: actually somewhat outpacing what we have seen before in that world.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys got to keep voting in all these
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  Speaker 4: battleground states. But I do like that data that they
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  Speaker 4: can give us in real time of who they project
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  Speaker 4: is voting in both those states.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of Starlink, did you see the The United Airlines
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• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it's on all of
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• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think one of the challenges with Starlink
• 17:30
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• 17:32
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• 17:37
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• 18:56
  Speaker 2: back into Clay and Buck. So we've covered a lot
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of the big races today. In fact, had the Republican
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: nominees or the incumbents in some cases with us here.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: We've had Houston of Ohio. It's barely a heck of
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: a defensive back. 17 interceptions, a lot, Buck. Yeah, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the president gave a lot of credit to his backside.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: That is a real thing that happened, just so you know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not making that up. You also had with us,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of course, Mike Rogers of Michigan, and he's in that
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: critical race. Alaska, though. Yeah. We have a very loyal
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and wonderful listenership up in Alaska, which is just so
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: cool the way all this technology works. You can listen
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to us a lot, because I've been to Alaska. unlike
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: some people on this radio show. I've been to Alaska,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and it is far. It is a long way. way
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: from the East Coast, I will tell you that. So
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: it's really cool that you can all listen to us
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: up there. And this story about your Senate race, Alaskans,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: on the one hand, I think a lot of you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: won't be surprised by it. And on the other hand,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: or rather maybe point one and point two, point two,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: it should fire you up even more to make sure
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: that they do not get away with this chicanery. Is
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: that the right word? I think that's a very well
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: deployed word there. Thank you. Clay, this is the piece
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you just flagged it for me. Take us through what
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: happened here. Inside Democrats' secret effort to stack Alaska's ballot.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: This is much more intense than we were told before.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: And so this is important. They have registered Daniel J.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Sullivan and they're running him against Dan S. Sullivan, so-called
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: decoy Dan. And the Poltola campaign has tried to say, well,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: this just happened by chance. I think all of you
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: out there. know that this did not just happen by chance.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: But this is the New York Times saying the Peltola
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: campaign has repeatedly denied any involvement in his candidacy. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: the Times has found, based on interviews and text messages,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: along with documents prepared for a potential lawsuit against the campaign,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: that not only did Ms. Patola's team work with people
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: trying to recruit Mr. Sullivan, that's decoy Dan, to run
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: for the Senate, but the effort was much broader. The
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: group worked to coax other would-be spoilers into the race
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: to dilute the incumbent's support to help catapult the Democrat
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: to victory. The endeavor, which was internally called the ballot
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: ballot composition project, involves secret trips to far flung Alaskan communities.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: The appearance of a mysterious Midwestern operative who traversed the
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: state using a fake name. and made his pitch to
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: would-be candidates over beers at brew pubs. It also involved,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: and I'm reading from the New York Times, it also
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: involved the Peltola's campaign's lawyers as well as senior aides
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: at the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, which directs the party's
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: campaign strategy. From Washington to Anchorage, those advisors participated in
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: regular conversations about the efforts and even considered forming a
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: new political party to draw conservatives onto the ballot. OK,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, this was a attempt to steal the election
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: from the sitting incumbent senator. And it's all out there.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: They're caught red handed. There is no defense that this guy,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Dan Sullivan, just happened to have the same name. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: think all of you understand that it was highly improbable
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: that this could occur. But what this article is demonstrating
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: is they've got the goods in terms of text messages,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: emails and concrete evidence of exactly how this campaign was
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: directed and went down.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Well, what it does is change any lingering question or
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: perception that somehow maybe this guy, fake Dan decoy, Dan
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: came up with this on his own, maybe approach some
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Democrat operatives about it. And that there was something organic
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: or even grassroots about this underhanded campaign, this, uh, this
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: subterfuge up in the Alaskan, uh, peninsula up on the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Alaskan peninsula. Clay, uh, That's one part of it. Clearly,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: this was a professional, organized Democrat hit. They, the Democrat operatives,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the people who are paid and part of that complex,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: that apparatus, went out to find the fake Sullivan, the
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: fine decoy, Dan. That's part one. But part two that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I have on this still is, I know it's super annoying.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I know it's very gross. We all understand... why this
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: is wrong and nasty and underhanded. Is it legal? That
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: is the question that I still come back to because
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: right now it's going to happen, it seems. He's on
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the ballot. So does this change anything with regard to
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: the legality of it? Because I don't see it makes
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it uglier, but I don't think it makes it illegal
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: unless I am missing something. To me, it's fraud.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Because you are intentionally, by this evidence, making it clear
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: that you are trying to confuse voters and keep them
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: from making the choice that they would make, but for
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the confusion of someone of the same name on the ballot.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: What they had tried to argue in the past was, well,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: there's no evidence that we organized this and there was
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: no evidence of intent. Based on the text messages, based
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: on the emails, based on all the interviews, they talked
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: to 12 people involved in this campaign. I think it
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: would be impossible to argue that the direct intent is
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: not to confuse voters in Alaska and, again, in a highly...
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: close contest buck it could come down to five or
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: six thousand people clicking the wrong person now all of
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: you out there listening to us in alaska you need
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: to be hyper aware when you go in but if
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: you remember buck back in the day of the butterfly
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: ballot in palm beach county In Florida in 2000, the
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: way that it was designed was complicated. And so many people,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: if you went and looked at the data, ended up
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: voting against, if I remember correctly, didn't a lot of
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: people vote for Pat Buchanan? Wasn't he on the ballot
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: in Florida back in the day and he did it?
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: insanely better in Palm Beach County. I don't even think
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: it was voting.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: You were like 30 with a house. I was in
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: grammar school, so I don't remember.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I feel like it was Palm Beach County. It wasn't
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: even that the votes did not go to George W.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Bush.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: It was that I feel like maybe Pat Buchanan was
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: running as an independent on some of these ballots. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: if you looked at the data in Palm Beach County
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: where the butterfly ballot was, there were way more people
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: who were voting for Pat Buchanan than you would ever
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: have anticipated. And it matters when the races are super close.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: The margin of error is implicated in that way. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: so I think all of this is going to lead
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: to a significant investigation. Here's the problem, Buck. Six days
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: till the election. Six days until the election, this comes out.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: So I don't know to what extent there could be
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: an action undertaken. It may be that we wait and
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: see what the actual result is. I hope that Alaskans
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: go vote for the real Dan Sullivan. But if we
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: end up in a situation where the margin of error
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: is such that the votes for the other Dan Sullivan
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: may have swung the race back to him, that is
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: significant to monitor.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I would also point this out, Buck.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: This is a direct result of a multi-year campaign by
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Democrats to confuse Alaskans. Ranked choice voting is what makes
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: this possible. So they can try and intentionally get somebody
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: named Dan Sullivan on the ballot because of the way
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: ranked choice voting works in many different states out there.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: You would have a Democrat, you would have a Republican candidate,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: but you wouldn't be in this situation where you're having
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: to rank all of your different candidates and end up
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: in a situation that is incredibly complicated. So I just
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: think it's important for us and for all of you
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: to be sharing with your friends and family in Alaska. Hey,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you need to be very careful. Bring your glasses.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Zoom in.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Sometimes the writing on the ballots can be tough. Make
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: sure he is noted as the incumbent. The real Dan
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Sullivan is listed as an incumbent. Make sure that you
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: are clicking on the correct Dan Sullivan. But I think
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: this is fraud. And I think there is a legitimate argument.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: that could be out there that down the line there
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: might be an investigation, Department of Justice, into exactly what happened.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm sure if they lose, I'm sure the Trump
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: DOJ is going to look into this, and maybe they
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: will come up with it. But doesn't fraud require a
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: lie of some kind? They're not lying. They're kind of
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: taking advantage of people's confusion, but they're not lying. Do
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying?
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I think they may have lied about how he
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: ended up on the ballot.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So they have said they might have lied in the
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: process of defending this or that. Well, that's a different.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: They may have purged themselves for sure.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Potentially as part of the investigation into this, because what
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: The New York Times uncovered is they're still saying we
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: had nothing to do with this. And there's actually substantial
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: evidence that they did. When I look at fraud and
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I'm talking fraud. Big picture. I'm not looking at the
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: specific fraud statutes in Alaska or any particular Department of
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Justice federal fraud statute. The intent is what I focus on.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: The intent is to confuse and lead people to make
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: a choice that they otherwise would not have made. What
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: this article demonstrates is the intent is clearly there. So
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: you raise a good question about how exactly the language
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: of a fraud statute would be applied here. But to me,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: if you're trying to get people to inaccurately and inadvertently
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: vote for someone different than their intent, and that is
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: your goal, and you have explicitly said it, to me,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: that feels like fraud.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Didn't the Democrats go after somebody for, uh, like a,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: like a tweet when Hillary was running against Trump? Do
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about?
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, yeah, it was a, uh, It was
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: a meme mocking Hillary Clinton. I think the guy was convicted.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Yes. And he was like, no, it was a joke.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And they decided, well, sorry, it was voting.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the goal was to confuse people. And it was
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: far less of a confusing situation. It's a good callback.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: But it was far less of a confusing situation. And there,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the actual goal buck to me seemed to be clearly
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: to be humorous, right, as most memes are. as opposed
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: to actually diverting the voting process.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said he had a Twitter audience of 58,000 people,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I'm looking this up right now, and said Mackey told
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: people to vote via text, and supporters of presidential candidate
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton vote via text or social media. knowing that
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: that was invalid. He said it was a joke. They
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: sent him to prison.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: No, he was convicted. I remember this story. Wow. Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: That's why, to me, intent matters. I think intent matters
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: in all facets of life and a lot of times.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Seven months in prison. The guy had 58,000 Twitter followers.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I don't even think one single person... Was fooled by
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: this necessarily. Did they prove that at trial? I think
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: they just said it could have been. And that's wild.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Seven months in prison for that?
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, my point on this is if they
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: prosecuted that, this is far more intentional in its desire
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: to get people to vote differently. By that standard, I
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: think this would certainly be criminal. Look, we've got a
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: lot of friends out there doing a lot of great work.
• 31:47
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• 31:51
  Speaker 4: stood up for businesses burned, city halls overtaken, synagogues ransacked
• 31:55
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• 31:59
  Speaker 4: we talked about on the program, it does not appear
• 32:01
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• 32:04
  Speaker 4: we still don't know who is going to be the
• 32:06
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• 32:15
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• 32:16
  Speaker 4: We shouldn't wait until the danger gets worse to stand
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• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Welcome back in, Clay and Buck. We are rolling through
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: the Wednesday edition of the program. Lots of great guests.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: We are talking about the battleground races all over the country.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: And we got some people who want to weigh in.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Ron in Texas, you were at one of the rallies
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: last night in Texas. What was the vibe?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: What was it like?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was great. I was in Corpus and Duff.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Joshua Nungere's mom showed a real emotional moment. The woman
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: was killed by the illegals in Houston. She spoke. The
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: place was holding back tears. Unreal. But I got to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: thinking afterwards, Tallarico is obsessed with trains issues. Why does
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: that qualify him to be in office, in any office?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: All he talks about is that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: It's creepy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: It is. I agree completely. I mean, I would say
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: he may identify as a senator, but that doesn't make
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: it so. So we'll see. No doubt. All right. We
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: got a couple more locks in West Palm Beach. Fire away.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Clay, I want to say to you that for
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks, I heard you vote shaming
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: us to go and vote. Man, normally I don't vote early,
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: but yesterday I went across the block. And two years ago,
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: I called and I talked to Buck about his red
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: bib with Jesse Kelly when Barack Obama came on and
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: said black guys should vote for the Democrats. And I
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: still haven't seen anything with Buck with his red bib.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't you lose a bet relating to red locks?
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Thank you for getting your vote in. I'm glad the
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: shaming worked. And for reminding me that Buck may have
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: welched on this bet. No, no, no.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. Locks, you are correct.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: I lost.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: This was part of the Buck Island controversy. Jesse Kelly
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: said that there was no way that Biden could make
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it all the way through as the nominee. So just
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: like my bet with Clay. Now, obviously, you all saw
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: the video. I paid off my Clay bet. Jesse Kelly,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: instead of going for the world's most expensive steak or
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: one of them, wanted an all expense paid trip to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Red Lobster. But I also have to put a lobster
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: bib on him at Red Lobster. I am waiting for
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: him to be in the same proximity of the United
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: States as me and make his request for a Red
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Lobster outing. I have not. I will absolutely take Jesse
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Kelly to Red Lobster. He won that bet. But, Lox,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: thank you for reminding a few million people that I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: now have to make good on my Red Lobster bet.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I totally forgot about that bet. He's totally correct. It
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: had not been paid off.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Maybe to reach out some of you to Jesse Kelly
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: and remind him that he needs to hold Buck's feet
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: to the fire on this bet that has yet.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: To be made. I don't know if we can do
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: all-you-can-eat shrimp, though. Inflation, there's a lot going on right now.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: It's expensive. All right.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I'm going to shame everybody, Buck, to finish the program.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Go vote until you have. Buck and I are better
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Americans than you.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You heard.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: From Mike Rogers in Michigan, from John Husted in Ohio,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: those turnout numbers are great. They are very similar to 2022.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: If we can put up numbers similar to 2022 or
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: 2024 in both of those states, we have a very,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: very good chance of winning. And that is true everywhere.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: President Trump going to be in Ohio. Hopefully that will
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: get a lot of people out. Texas waking up, continue
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: to flood the ballots there.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Florida, the same.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: My home state of Tennessee, I rallied last night with
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Marsha Blackburn. She is going to be the next governor
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: of Tennessee with Ennis Cantor and also with Glenn Jacobs, a.k.a.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Kane, from WWE.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: It was awesome.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Go vote.