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Do The Thing: Gospel-Centered Goals, Gumption, And Grace For The Go-Getter Girl With Rebecca George · She Speaks Life - Christian Women, Strengthen Your Faith, Bible Study, Grow Spiritually In Christ

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  Hi friend. Welcome back to she speaks life.
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  So today I have with me, Rebecca George.
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  She is the host of radical Radiance podcast and is the
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  author of do. The thing gospel-centered goals,
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  gumption and Grace for the go-getter girl.
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  And we are going to talk about how to go after that calling and
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  running the pace of Grace and how to get Fear and striving to
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  a place of total dependence on the Holy Spirit to use our gifts
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  and talents. This is such a powerful story
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  and I can't wait to share it with you.
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  So here's my conversation with Rebecca George.
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  Hi Rebecca. Welcome to she speaks live.
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  I am so thrilled. You're here and we're going to
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  be talking about your new book do the thing gospels Center
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  goals gumption and Grace for the go-getter.
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  Girl, and I just love that word gumption.
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  I mean, you hardly see that I know I know it's one of my
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  favorite words to, so I yeah Jamie.
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  I'm so excited to be here and get to share with you today.
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  So, thank you for having me. Yeah.
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  Well, before we dive in, I always like to ask each guess if
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  they have a favorite scripture verse.
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  I mean a lifers that they hold on to and why.
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  Why is that? Yeah yeah yeah I love that
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  question. I think it's Changed across my
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  life. So I'll give you the one.
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  I would say today. And God really gave me the
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  vision for my own podcast, which is called radical Radiance.
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  From this verse that, he kept bringing me back to in Psalm 34.
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  It's verse 5 and it says those who look to him are radiant and
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  their faces shall never be ashamed.
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  And so, I just love that, when we look to him, when we follow
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  him boldly, he makes us radiant because of his His presence in
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  our lives and I'm just so thankful for that and we see
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  that that idea of Radiance all across the pages of scripture.
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  And so that's sort of been a trail of breadcrumbs that I've
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  been searching for for the last several years in scripture.
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  And so, I'm thankful for the work that God has allowed me to
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  do and having those conversations of what does it
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  look like to radiate? The heart of Christ in all that
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  we do? So I love that verse.
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  Yeah. I do too.
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  And to name your podcast after that, that's Found also, I love
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  your podcast. You have so many great
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  interviews on there. And people sharing about how
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  they radiate Christ with what they do and it's inspiring, it's
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  encouraging. So I know.
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  I'm a listener. You're my mom.
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  Yeah, I listen to you. My fun walks with my dog, so
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  let's talk about why this message is so important to you,
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  what made you e? Even begin writing that.
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  Yeah, I like to lovingly call this book if I like my if I got
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  hit by a bus book, if I got hit by a bus tomorrow and I didn't
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  get to write another book, what would be the message that I
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  would want to leave with women? And it feels I just feel really
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  compelled to share and it is this it's what does it look like
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  for us to connect our gifts and talents that God's given us with
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  how we're bringing him glory? World.
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  And if I think back, you know, I think every book has a thread
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  right that the author's continuing to pull on and chew
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  on and figure out, okay. How do I packaged this into a
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  book? I can think back about 10 years
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  to when God started started, putting this on my heart.
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  I led a non-profit for many years that we donated hand
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  crocheted and knitted hats and letters of encouragement into
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  treatment centers, Cancer Treatment Centers across the
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  country. And as I did that work.
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  I had the opportunity to speak a lot and share about what God was
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  doing and and this whole Ministry came out of my mom's
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  cancer journey and the ways that I was able to encourage her and
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  we package that into Ministry of how we could encourage others
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  and I would stand on the stage and I'd speak and Jamie you'll
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  relate to this afterwards, women would come up to me and share
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  their stories which is my favorite part of getting to do
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  what we do. And and women would come and say
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  Love what God's doing through your mom's story and I have my
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  own version of that, you know, I feel compelled to get involved
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  in this thing. We're to start this business or
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  Ministry and there was always this moment where they would
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  almost hush to a whisper and they would say, you know, but I
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  feel, I feel stuck where I feel scared or I don't know what the
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  first step is or I'm sensing that there's somebody out there
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  already do Doing it better than I could.
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  It all the things that we bump up against as women as we
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  Faithfully pursue what God puts on our hearts.
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  And so I had enough of those conversations that I began to
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  sense. OK.
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  I feel called to write and speak and this is something that I
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  feel really passionate about helping women with and so that's
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  kind of the thread that I've been pulling on and tugging on
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  for several years. And so, now we get to hold a
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  book in her. Zen and have conversations about
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  it, so I'm excited. Yeah.
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  Okay. Do you have your own story of
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  maybe? God was calling you into
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  something new and you had those fears and insecurities yourself?
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  Yeah, absolutely. I would say, every creative
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  Endeavor that I have down with the Lord, I have had to wrestle
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  through the message of this book over and over again, which I
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  think matters is an author, right?
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  And so I would say when I I started that Ministry, that was
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  absolutely the case. And what I share probably more
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  about in the book is the season when God called me away from
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  that Ministry and I married, my husband who is a lead pastor and
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  in that season after we married he was pastoring a church in
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  south Mississippi and so I moved and joined him in Ministry down
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  there. And God really stripped me away
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  of pretty much everything that was comfort and familiarity to
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  me, I moved away from family and friends and everything I've ever
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  known and really in its place, was this new capacity to create
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  in a way I never created before. And it was in that season that I
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  started the podcast and began speaking more and connected with
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  my agent and went down this path of publishing and I faced all
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  the things that I would talk about in the book in that
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  process comparison feeling like somebody's already done it
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  better. Our fear doubt all of those
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  things. And you know, it's not so much I
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  think that we won't experience those things and are calling.
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  I think we all know that that's the case but where are we
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  turning in the midst of that really matters and so that's
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  that's the conversation I love to have.
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  So yeah so good. I think we have similar stories,
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  you know. God moving me away from all I've
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  known and familiarity and Your family, your friends to
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  something totally unknown and like you, that's when I started
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  my podcast that there are so-called compacity.
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  Yeah, it's, you get creative and really have that one-on-one time
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  with the Lord. And I think you're just in that
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  intentional heart position of Life, wanting that that more
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  like God's put that morning you. And so you're like, okay, Lord
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  like what is it? So I know in your book, you You
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  touch on, you know, striving and where that origin comes from.
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  So why don't we just expand on what is driving versus thriving?
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  Yeah, it's a great question and I'll start by saying since we're
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  all new friends here and we're getting to know each other every
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  personality test I've ever taken in.
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  My life has told me some version of the idea of achievement.
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  I've been achiever. That is always come back in the
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  results of any test of Megan. And for a good bit of my life, I
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  think I was really apologetic about that.
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  I think I tried to Tamper that down and the whole, the whole
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  idea of making yourself small, so that others will be
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  intimidated. That type of thing, I've
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  struggled with for a good bit of my life and the Lord and I have
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  really been working through. Okay.
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  What does it mean that I actually hired you to be an
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  achiever I wired you with to be a high-capacity person and to To
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  use that gift. For my kingdom, right?
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  And so, so where's that line? That's the hard distinction to
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  draw. All right.
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  When I look back over early, early years in my life and I
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  know what you're thinking of, is this story that I tell in the
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  book, I can think back to this day and it's so vivid.
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  In my mind, I could see the classroom that I was in in.
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  It's probably second or third grade.
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  And we were learning our multiplication tables.
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  And I, we were taking a quiz about her.
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  Multiplication tables. And I remember finishing the
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  quiz really fast and my teacher came over to my desk and and
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  graded my paper and I got a 100 and I remember her announcing to
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  the class, you know how great of a job that I did and how fast I
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  you know, finish the quiz and I was so proud of the out.
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  Not only, I was so fast but that I was so accurate.
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  And and that is my like earliest memory of striving and it has
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  marked. My life, really and it's
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  something I've struggled with a lot and I think that the more I
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  walk with the Lord and just ask for his wisdom and discernment
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  in how to use my time, and my capacity.
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  I think we begin to realize when we're a little off the rails,
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  right? And I think it's what's next?
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  What we do next after we realize, okay, I am burnout I I
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  am I'm tired. I'm weary I don't even have time
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  to spend with the Lord. It's what happens after that,
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  the intentional decisions that we make to create margin and to
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  create rest and to create time with him, that really matters.
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  And and the reality is, God has given us the time that we need
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  to accomplish what he wants us to accomplish This Side of
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  Heaven. That is true, that will always
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  be true. And so there's also such a case
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  for rest, and we see that in scripture, we see that in the
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  creation story, right? God.
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  Rested on the seventh day of creation and so if he rested we
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  absolutely need to as well. And so really just leaning into
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  him for wisdom and how to create space for that really matters.
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  So yeah, I think that's the one of the I mean the enemy has lots
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  of tactics but one of them is time like, oh my God.
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  Gosh, like absolutely wasting time and it's like this eager
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  like you just feel like you're being robbed of time and you
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  really have to step back and go. What does God say about time?
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  You know, this isn't true. This isn't like, I'm going at
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  his pace. And, you know, if this was
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  supposed to be the right time, then God would bring it, you
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  know, that type of things that you have to constantly remind
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  you of the truth, because the enemy will, you know, tell you
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  otherwise. So, Let's jump into your topic
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  and your book of running at the pace of Grace.
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  Now that were talking about God's timing.
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  What does that look like? Yeah, running at the pace of
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  Grace, really matters a whole lot.
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  And I think You know, we're recording this at the beginning
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  of the year and so I think it's always top of Mind of, you know,
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  what does this year look like what does my capacity look like?
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  What do I spend my time doing and prioritizing and that
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  changes across our seasons was? We may talk about later in the
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  episode, but I think really spending some intentional time
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  with the Lord asking him. Okay, what is priority right
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  now, what's priority? That's not going to change,
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  right? I'm always going to be Dustin's
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  wife. I am for, you know, in this
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  season, he's pastoring our church where we live and what
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  does that look like for me to be a faithful wife to him and an
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  encourager to him, and his ministry that will never not be
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  my calling, right? And it will never not be one of
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  my primary callings in life and outside of that, you know,
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  though occasionally I have a calling and what does my
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  capacity for that look like in this season and so establishing,
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  those foundational things Of. Hey this isn't going to change
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  and if I'm faithful and nothing else, I have to be faithful in
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  this and then outside of that if there's something that you sense
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  God wants you to start, or want you to get involved in and
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  things like that. Having really intentional
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  conversations of okay. What does that look like this
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  year? And how and where can I carve
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  out time for that? Almost creates the ability for
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  us to run at the pace of Grace, right?
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  Because when we are not running at the pace of Grace is often
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  when we are striving and when we've not had intentional
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  conversation around our boundaries and our priorities.
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  And so I think doing that allows us to more Faithfully be able to
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  run at a pace that's sustainable for us for our families and So
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  this is a good topic because I don't know what it is but I
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  struggle at the first of the year and I know where it stems
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  from. Its from me, seeing social
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  media, my environment around me saying, okay, goals dreams you
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  know you need to have it all written out and you need to not
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  like I'm like still in this rest mode and I feel this pressure
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  every time the first the year rolls around That I need to have
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  this motivation and I don't have it.
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  And I love that. It's the pace of Grace, because
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  I'll go into my quiet time, and I feel like I'm just walking and
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  the rhythm of the Lord's and I feel like the world is
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  pressuring me to have that fire and me like but it's going to be
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  it's going to be superficial, it's not going to be real.
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  Also, I have to wait for his timing to get myself going on,
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  those, you know, Ambitions or those dreams.
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  Those goals that I have for the year, but it's almost like, you
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  know, the world's calendars telling me, you know, you need
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  to feel this way. And then the Lord's calendar is
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  like, no. Like I'll give you the timing,
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  you just stay in rest. And, and this isn't just for
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  everyone, but I know there's got to be somebody listening that He
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  feels that pressure of having to have everything kind of figured
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  out for your 2023 as soon as the calendar rolls and the new year.
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  Yeah, I think that's that is such a challenge.
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  And I think there's Grace for both sides.
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  I've been thinking about that a lot because, for some reason,
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  I've seen this almost polarization of the conversation
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  we're having on social media. It's either.
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  Okay, forget the new year, new, you forget New Year's.
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  Oceans, just scrap it all and let's just survive, right?
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  Like I've seen a lot of that type of mentality and then I've
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  seen a lot of the typical what we always see, okay?
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  Here's what I'm running into 2023.
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  Ready to do, right? And I don't think either polar
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  extreme of the conversation is really what God intended for us.
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  And I think we need to stop running to the world for what it
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  Looks like to set goals and to make priorities and to
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  Faithfully live out our calling. I think if you look at the
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  bookshelves and see the books that have released over the last
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  eight or ten years that have been focused on purpose and
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  calling, they've been a lot of messages that leave us exhausted
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  and striving. And I've read a lot of the books
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  myself and that is one of the reasons why I'm probably so
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  passionate about this because as an achiever it's very easy for
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  me to read a message like that and get real motivated and and
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  walk into my year, all guns blazing, and then not really be
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  rooted in God's word and what God would have me to focus on
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  and so I just don't think either end of the conversation is is
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  right and good and what God intended for us.
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  I think really Taking some time and giving ourselves some Grace
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  for hey, we just walked out of the holiday season, which is
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  insane for any human alive on Earth.
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  And as we walk into the new year, like take a deep breath
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  and spend some time with God and some onrush time with your
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  phone, on the other side of the room with him and your planner
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  and your Bible and unpacking that with him, it just really
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  matters. So amen.
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  That's what I need in the next couple weeks here.
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  Yeah, and then I'll get I'll motivated.
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  I love this topic that you share in your book on.
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  What do you do? When you sense God is asking you
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  to quit something and how to leave an assignment.
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  Well and you know I've gone through this many times in my
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  life of how do you tell when you're giving up on something or
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  you're letting go and I was at the flesh or is it the Lord
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  speaking to you and It's a hard thing because sometimes it's not
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  going to be a bad thing where it's going to be clear.
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  Like you're supposed to be that, you know, it's going to actually
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  be something good. Maybe something in Ministry,
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  something that you thought God had put on your heart that was
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  going to last way longer than a dead.
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  So yeah, expand on this Ilia that you share this in your
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  book. It's yeah.
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  I agree because we're all going to face moments where we have to
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  do this and walk through. This.
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  And I think the fear is always, did I let go too soon, right?
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  That's, that's always the thing that we are going to feel shame
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  if we're being real honest about, and I know for me and I
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  talked about this, I went through a season where God asked
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  me to lay down that Ministry that I started, that was
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  beautiful work. That I'm so thankful for what,
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  you know, what God did in that season.
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  And I actually sat down with my mom one day and she brought it
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  up. She said, you know, I'm sensing
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  like You're walking down this path of writing a book and
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  speaking more and starting this podcast.
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  Do you think there's room for the ministry anymore and I
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  needed her to say that out loud. Right.
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  And so immediately I teared up because it had been on my heart
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  and I just hadn't pulled the trigger yet and she said
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  something, I'll never forget. She said Rebecca I saw you be
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  faithful to what God asks you to do and you don't need my
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  permission to lay this down. Down, that's something you and
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  God have to sort out. But if you need me to say like,
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  hey I saw your faithfulness and I trust and I know that you're
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  going to be faithful to where God is leading you now then like
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  you have my permission you know and that's what I would say to
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  the listener, right? If you have been faithful and an
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  assignment, God has given you and you're sensing.
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  Hey this is this is a pivot. I'm going to have to make this
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  is something I'm going to have to lay down.
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  He's given you that wisdom in that discernment for a reason.
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  And and there is, you know, time to really pray through, is this
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  the right time in my laying it down too soon.
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  But if, if you're sensing that, then that's probably something
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  that you you need to lay down. And there's, there's wisdom and
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  leaving something well, right? And so, I think that that
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  requires time and intention on our part as well.
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  And really just learning what That's going to look like but
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  you don't need a permission slip for an assignment to end.
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  And the reality is, we are all going to experience that this
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  side of Heaven things might last longer or not, as long as we
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  thought they would. And that's the beautiful part
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  about continuing to Faithfully follow God into where he leads
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  us. Let's share a little bit of
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  gumption, like, say someone's listening right now, and they
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  just need that too. You know, dude, the thing that
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  God has put on their on their heart.
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  What would you say to that girl? Yeah I love that.
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  So I and we mentioned this a little bit earlier.
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  I think we live in Extremes in our world, we just do, right?
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  It's either all or nothing. It's black and white.
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  When life is a whole lot more gray than we kind of give
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  ourselves credit for. And so this area of gumption and
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  courage and christ-centered confidence that we need, Need to
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  Faithfully live out. What God's called us to do?
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  I think sometimes it feels in opposition to this idea of
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  Grace, right? This was coming to mind the
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  other day on a run. I and you've probably read
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  enough of the content to know I'm a runner and I talked about
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  that a lot in the book and I was really struggling on my run the
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  other day and you know, I'm in the middle of the book launch me
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  and my husband just moved, we are in just an insane season.
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  That's beautiful and awesome, but Micah Cassidy to work out
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  and be active, just looks different than it did 68 months
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  ago and so I was running a route that I run pretty often.
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  I was like man I really want to quit this is awful.
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  I cannot run it as quickly as I used to be able to And I just
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  didn't the Lord say, you know, you can hold gumption and
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  self-discipline and courage and the things that there's a very
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  real case for in my word. Side-by-side with Grace, right?
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  You can have Grace for and I just use this as an example and
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  listener, coming to the conversation.
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  Take this and apply it to your situation.
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  You know, I can have Grace for my body and my season.
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  And what I'm walking through and that my capacity is different
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  and has changed and also like I can finish this run.
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  It's okay. It's okay that I can't run at
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  the same Pace that I would have six months ago.
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  That doesn't mean I Stop right? Like I can still be faithful.
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  I can still put one foot in front of the other and I'll make
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  it back to my house and my just be a little slower than it would
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  have been a few months ago. And so, I think we look at
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  things like gumption and self-discipline.
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  And almost see it as opposing Grace.
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  When I think so many times in our Seasons, we have to hold
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  both and know that. That's okay.
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  That's good. So you talk about living daily
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  dependent on The Holy Spirit was that look like, especially when
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  your whole books about, you know, doing the thing that
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  you've been called to do. Yeah.
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  Yeah, absolutely. So I think so many times, we
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  will set a goal for the year or walk into something.
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  We feel called to do and Not consult the Lord about it at.
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  All right, like not really lean into.
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  Okay? I'm not doing this by my own
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  power or My Own Strength. I'm a broken vessel that God
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  chooses to use on this side of Heaven for his kingdom and for
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  his glory and God really reminded me of this truth in a
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  whole new way. A few years ago, I was running a
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  marathon. And I was reaching the end of
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  the marathon. I had a few miles left to go and
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  I was really struggling. It was a warm day and I really
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  felt like quitting I was struggling so much and I saw
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  this girl on the sidelines of the marathon, it was the st.
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  Jude Children's Research marathon in Memphis Tennessee.
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  And she was actually a patient of the hospital and the closer I
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  got to her and Meanwhile, my arms are chilling.
• 25:53
  I'm having heat exhaustion symptoms and and I I really want
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  to quit and she's cheering for me.
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  And she's holding this poster that says the same power, that
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  raised Jesus from the grave is living inside of you.
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  You can do this and you can do this as in like big letters
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  across the bottom. And so I started tearing up,
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  which was not helpful and so I keep going.
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  And for the last six or seven miles of that Marathon, I just
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  continued repeating to myself Rebecca, the Power.
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  That raised Jesus from the grave is living inside of you.
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  You can do this and I might seem like a silly example but I think
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  our daily lives are the same. We have to say that back to
• 26:41
  ourselves and remember that we're not operating in our own
• 26:44
  strength and Byron power and it's not out of striving that we
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  achieve or move forward. And what God's called us to do.
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  We are partnering with him on this side of heaven and Again
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  the same power that raised Jesus from the grave, the holy spirit
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  is alive in us today and we get to partner with him as we do the
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  thing. And that's such a gift.
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  Yeah. Those are just powerful words.
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  Like, and, and you're right, like just reminding yourself
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  that. I mean, it's just so empowering
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  and I've done running myself. I've never done a marathon.
• 27:21
  I ran a 10K and the last leg. This was in San, Go and it was
• 27:27
  on the Del Mar Racetrack and I probably should have seen like
• 27:32
  where I'm going to be running for this 10K.
• 27:35
  Didn't even look at a map or anything.
• 27:36
  I did it with my sister and my sister-in-law and it was hilly
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  and I realized and I and I got real energetic and the middle
• 27:48
  which they all tell you don't do because I just wait, yeah, a
• 27:54
  little too early. So I was just struggling the
• 27:58
  rest of the way and then up ahead was a racetrack and it was
• 28:04
  thick sand, you know where the horses run and I was like, oh my
• 28:09
  gosh, it was you just felt like you were going nowhere.
• 28:12
  I mean. Yeah, we're the molasses and I
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  got sick and I was like, you know, I'm not ever doing this is
• 28:21
  my last phrase and it was, I never did it again but and I
• 28:25
  just know. Okay.
• 28:26
  It's not really for me but I do enjoy running.
• 28:29
  Is there anything that you would love to share about the book
• 28:33
  that we did not get to cover? Oh man, well I would say for
• 28:38
  listeners coming to the episode and they're thinking okay, yes
• 28:41
  this is what I need in my life right now.
• 28:44
  And and I want some encouragement and just
• 28:46
  accountability, as I walk through it, we are doing some
• 28:48
  really fun things over in our launch Team and giving away some
• 28:53
  really fun pre-order gifts for those who pre-order the book.
• 28:57
  And so if you go to do the thing book dot-org, you can order from
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  your favorite online retailer and then go in and join the
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  launch Team where we are. Giving you a 30-day devotional
• 29:08
  that unpacks different topics that we talk about in the book.
• 29:11
  Just from the perspective of me and 29 of my other friends, they
• 29:15
  got to write for it and there is an audiobook version of that
• 29:19
  devotional that we're giving to you a quiz, a goal planning
• 29:23
  guide that will help you really practically.
• 29:26
  Out those goals that you have for the year and a Spotify
• 29:29
  playlist. It's just really worshipful.
• 29:31
  And I've loved so much and I prayed encourages you, as you
• 29:34
  walk through the book. And so I'd love to gift those to
• 29:38
  you and walk alongside you in the Facebook community that we
• 29:42
  have going over there. So again that's that's do the
• 29:44
  thing book dot-org. Awesome.
• 29:47
  And before we close goals that came to mind when you were
• 29:50
  talking about it. What's your advice on goals?
• 29:53
  Like I just hear people say, you know, set them.
• 29:56
  A small. And by the time you're doing the
• 29:58
  small thing, it becomes bigger and bigger bigger.
• 30:00
  What would ya thoughts on that? Yeah, the I love what you said
• 30:05
  and the thing that comes to mind and how I have how I talk about
• 30:09
  it, in the book is creating small Finish Lines for yourself.
• 30:13
  Got along the lines of running, you know.
• 30:15
  We think about I'll use the example starting a podcast
• 30:18
  because we can both relate to that.
• 30:20
  That felt really big and scary to me until I sat down and
• 30:24
  thought okay. Well The first five or six
• 30:27
  things I need to do to just get myself on that path, right?
• 30:31
  I can't have a podcast, will have a microphone, I can't, you
• 30:34
  know, record with people until I have some mechanism and software
• 30:38
  to do that. And so I think breaking down
• 30:41
  your goal into almost smaller Finish Lines along the way,
• 30:45
  helps keep us encouraged and not bogged down in the overwhelm of
• 30:49
  the bigness of whatever our goal is.
• 30:52
  And so I think that's extremely helpful as you.
• 30:56
  Move forward. So that is something that we we
• 30:59
  absolutely talk about in the book as well.
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  So yeah, that's so good and I think that's so important and it
• 31:05
  helps you not feel so overwhelmed because I know when
• 31:09
  I think a goals it's immediately to the big thing and not the
• 31:13
  smaller things to get me to the big thing.
• 31:15
  And so I just focus on the small thing.
• 31:18
  It doesn't feel as overwhelming so and I love to end with a
• 31:24
  takeaway. Anything you can leave what the
• 31:28
  listener to ponder on or take action in.
• 31:31
  I'd love to hear it. Yeah.
• 31:33
  What's coming to mind when you say that is just this passage in
• 31:37
  Ephesians where Paul says we are his workmanship created for good
• 31:44
  works that God planned long ago for us to do.
• 31:48
  And so it just reminds me that, you know, are calling and the
• 31:52
  work that God has placed before us it was Is his good idea long
• 31:57
  before it was ours, right? And so we get to partner with
• 32:02
  him, to do his work and build his kingdom on this side of
• 32:06
  heaven. And sometimes that can feel
• 32:08
  overwhelming, or scary or weed out.
• 32:11
  And all the things that we face is women and that are very real,
• 32:14
  but we get to partner with him and bring him glory, This Side
• 32:18
  of Heaven, and the work that you do, that might even seem mundane
• 32:21
  or insignificant today is a Our of God, bringing about his
• 32:29
  overall Plan of Redemption, you get to be a piece of it, and
• 32:34
  that in itself is significant. And so I think if we began to
• 32:39
  see our calling and our work, and that way, I think it would
• 32:42
  change everything. So good, Rebecca.
• 32:45
  Well, thank you for sharing this amazing book.
• 32:49
  Congratulations again, and I highly recommend it.
• 32:54
  I know it. Going on.
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  Pre-order like you said and get all these goodies and resources
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  and and what's the email address, one more time.
• 33:04
  Yeah. So it's do the thing book dot
• 33:07
  org is the website where you can go pre-order from your major
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  retailer and then sign up for the launch Team and given on all
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  the pre-order gifts, love it. Well, thank you for being here
• 33:18
  and sharing with us all your great knowledge and wisdom.
• 33:21
  Thank you. Well, Jamie I have loved it.
• 33:23
  Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for listening
• 33:27
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