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We Were Frozen in Time: Ten Truly Bizarre Close Encounters of the Second Kind · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining me for a new episode of UFOs and
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  Speaker 1: the Parent Normal. Today, I'm going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: something a little bit different. I do love exploring humanoid cases.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably my favorite aspect of ufology. That and onboard
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  Speaker 1: ufhone encounters. I have plenty of more cases of that
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  Speaker 1: kind to share with you, But today I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: talk about close encounters of this second kind. The title
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  Speaker 1: of today's episode is called We Were Frozen in Time.
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  Speaker 1: Ten truly bizarre close encounters of the second kind. I've
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  Speaker 1: got ten cases from all over the world, including Canada, France, Germany, Tasmania,
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  Speaker 1: as well as six from the United States, including Arizona, Florida, Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Ohio, and Washington. What's really interesting about UFOE
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  Speaker 1: encounters is that the most common type of encounter is,
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  Speaker 1: of course, a closing com of the first kind, a
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  Speaker 1: simple sighting, and there are literally millions of cases that
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  Speaker 1: have been documented, coming from all over the world and
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  Speaker 1: really stretching back to prehistory. A close encounter of the
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  Speaker 1: second kind is an encounter in which the physical environment
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  Speaker 1: is affected in some way. These cases have a lot
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  Speaker 1: to teach us. There's still a lot of questions surrounding
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  Speaker 1: some of these encounters, so that's what I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about today. Now, a close encounter of the third
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  Speaker 1: kind is of course involving humanoids, close encounter of the
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  Speaker 1: fourth kind is being taken on board, and now we
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  Speaker 1: have a close encounters of the fifth kind human initiated encounters.
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  Speaker 1: This was a classification system invented by J. Allen Heineck
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  Speaker 1: to really help us understand what's going on here. It
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  Speaker 1: can be a little confusing because, let's face it, a
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  Speaker 1: close encounter of the fourth kind being taken on board
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  Speaker 1: really involves an encounter of the first, second, and third kind,
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  Speaker 1: and there are close encounters of the first kind involving telepathies.
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  Speaker 1: So where would you categorize that? It can be a
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  Speaker 1: little confusing. At any rate, close encounters of the second
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  Speaker 1: kind our category that deserves a lot of attention because
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  Speaker 1: these cases have some really interesting aspects to them that
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  Speaker 1: again we still don't fully understand. Ten cases I've got
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  Speaker 1: today reach from nineteen sixty three all the way to
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and two, and I think you'll find them amazing,
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  Speaker 1: fascinating and just as interesting actually as some of these
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  Speaker 1: humanoid encounters. So let's just get started. In the first
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  Speaker 1: case i'd like to talk about today, I call it
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  Speaker 1: was Watching Us. This occurred on November twenty third, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty three, in Mattagami River. This is in Ontario, Canada.
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  Speaker 1: This is a very unusual encounter. What I like about
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  Speaker 1: this case is it involves two independent sets of witnesses,
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  Speaker 1: so this is credible confirmation and it's a very close
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  Speaker 1: encounter involving some quite unusual physiological effects. This case comes
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  Speaker 1: from prolific researcher Brian Weick. The primary witness is anonymous,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll call him Wade, but the case actually involved
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  Speaker 1: quite a few witnesses. Began around ten am, a cold
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  Speaker 1: but bright sunny morning on November twenty third, nineteen sixty three,
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  Speaker 1: as Wade and his friend Robert began their daily walk
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  Speaker 1: to school. Arriving at school, they were surprised to find
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  Speaker 1: that it was closed in honor of President Kennedy, who
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  Speaker 1: sadly had just been assassinated one day earlier. But now
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  Speaker 1: with the day off, the boys decided to go to
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  Speaker 1: Robert's house. At the time, they were living in a
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  Speaker 1: temporary construction community located along the Mattagami River in northern Ontario, Canada.
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  Speaker 1: This was about midway between James Bay and Capu's Cossing
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  Speaker 1: in Ontario. At the time, the boy's father were working
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  Speaker 1: on building three hydro electric dams, Little Long, Kipling, and Harmon,
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  Speaker 1: all located along the Matagami River. And once at Robert's house,
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  Speaker 1: they sat on his back step practicing playing guitar. They
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  Speaker 1: were near the Smoky Falls Dam area, just north of
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  Speaker 1: Little Long Dam, which overlooked a road known then as
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  Speaker 1: Smoky Falls Road. There was a grove of trees on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of the road, about two hundred feet away.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll just let Wade describe what happened, as he
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  Speaker 1: says in his own words, as we sat there with
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  Speaker 1: Robert strumming away, I looked up and across the road.
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  Speaker 1: I never heard or noticed it arriving, but there it was,
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  Speaker 1: just sitting there, about ten feet higher than the tallest
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  Speaker 1: tree in the first grove, which would put it about
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  Speaker 1: thirty feet off the ground. I jabbed Robert with my
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  Speaker 1: elbow and pointed. We just sat there in silence, watching
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  Speaker 1: it as it was watching us. It was huge, huge,
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  Speaker 1: the diameter of about thirty yards from top to bottom.
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  Speaker 1: At the center, the dimension was at least and maybe
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  Speaker 1: greater than the height of the trees, six or seven
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  Speaker 1: yards in thickness. It appeared to be constructed of dull
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  Speaker 1: aluminum and was shaped like a saucer, with the exception
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  Speaker 1: that the top and bottom halves did not join in
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  Speaker 1: a sharp edge all the way around the center. It
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  Speaker 1: looked like dark windows six feet tall. As Robert and
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  Speaker 1: I watched, the craft tilted with the closest side to
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  Speaker 1: us down and the rear of the saucer up. It
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  Speaker 1: appeared that whoever was inside was trying to get a
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  Speaker 1: better look at us. It shifted back down to its
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  Speaker 1: original position and then drifted at low speed to the
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  Speaker 1: west and behind the trees. The total observation time was
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  Speaker 1: one minute, although it seemed longer at the time. This
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  Speaker 1: was no blinking, flashing light in the corner of the sky.
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  Speaker 1: This was a saucer up close and personal. So Wade
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  Speaker 1: and Robert were amazed, and that was the last they
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  Speaker 1: saw of this saucer. But it was not the last
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  Speaker 1: time that they heard about it, because after their encounter,
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  Speaker 1: this same craft apparently had more witnesses to visit as
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  Speaker 1: Wade says, two or three nights after the encounter, my
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  Speaker 1: father received a phone call at home. I recall him
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  Speaker 1: being so angry as he grabbed the keys for the
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  Speaker 1: company truck and headed out. Construction workers need light to
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  Speaker 1: work by when the sun goes down, and Dad had
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  Speaker 1: electricians running the diesel powered lightning plants. Three electricians had
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  Speaker 1: just walked off the job and refused to return, claiming
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  Speaker 1: that they had come under attack by a low flying saucer.
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  Speaker 1: One of the electricians claimed to have thrown a hammer
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  Speaker 1: at the saucer as it took a low pass at him,
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  Speaker 1: and according to him, he hit it. Dad radioed for
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  Speaker 1: another crew to take over the position and was driving
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  Speaker 1: the electricians back to the construction camp, but had to
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  Speaker 1: stop often as one of the fellows was violently sick.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, the sick fellow went to the clinic
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  Speaker 1: and the doctor and nurses applied cream and then bandaged
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  Speaker 1: him top to bottom to soothe and cover his burned,
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  Speaker 1: blistered skin. It was the talk of the town for
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  Speaker 1: a while as folks puddled over getting that bad of
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  Speaker 1: a sunburn while fully clothed working for the night shift.
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  Speaker 1: How interesting is that? I don't think anyone can truly
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  Speaker 1: understand what it's like to see a UFO until you
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  Speaker 1: actually have that experience. And skeptics can say anything they want,
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  Speaker 1: But once someone sees something like that that close up,
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  Speaker 1: they know they've moved from beyond belief or disbelief to actual,
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  Speaker 1: firsthand experiential knowledge. And when someone reports being affected physiologically
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  Speaker 1: like having a sunburn all over their body from a
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  Speaker 1: close approach of a UFO, well there you go. That's
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  Speaker 1: absolute amazing evidence that is very hard to explain away.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's move to the next case. This one is
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  Speaker 1: absolutely bizarre. I call this one very terrifying. This one
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  Speaker 1: occurred on July thirtieth, nineteen sixty eight, in Claremont, New Hampshire.
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  Speaker 1: This is a multiple witness case and some of the effects,
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  Speaker 1: the secondary effects are really unusual. There's animal reactions, of course,
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  Speaker 1: but to me, it's what happened to this couple's children
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  Speaker 1: that really makes me wonder what's going on here. It's
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  Speaker 1: a crazy case. This case, or rather two clearly related cases,
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  Speaker 1: comes from Nightcap researcher Gordon Lore and both were published
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  Speaker 1: in his book Strange Effects from UFOs. It also appeared
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  Speaker 1: in the June July nineteen sixty eight issue of the
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  Speaker 1: Nightcap publication UFO Investigator. It all began at one a
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  Speaker 1: m on July thirtieth, nineteen sixty eight, when a man
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  Speaker 1: employed in a manufacturing plant was carrying two buckets of
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  Speaker 1: water to his garden located outside his home in Claremont,
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  Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Looking up, he saw a quote, bright round
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  Speaker 1: object float in a gentle arc low in the sky
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  Speaker 1: to the northeast. He said. It was about the same
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  Speaker 1: size of a full moon, but clearly not the moon,
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  Speaker 1: and it was flying, he said, at an extremely low altitude.
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  Speaker 1: After it disappeared behind some trees, he rushed back into
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  Speaker 1: his apartment and noted the time as one twelve a m. Now. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: just two miles away, a married couple was in their
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  Speaker 1: new home in Claremont. The husband, while calm Cliff, was
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  Speaker 1: a land surveyor. His wife is also anonymous all caller via.
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  Speaker 1: They had just moved into their house and worked late
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  Speaker 1: at various tasks, including working in their rock garden. They
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  Speaker 1: were in their bedroom and still awake at around one
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  Speaker 1: thirty or two a m. Along with their pet poodle.
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  Speaker 1: Their children were asleep in another bedroom and their German
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  Speaker 1: shepherd dog was in the garage, and this is when
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  Speaker 1: they noticed weird lights outside, which they first assumed were
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  Speaker 1: the northern lights. But going to the other window, they
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  Speaker 1: saw more lights which they now thought might be people
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  Speaker 1: walking around with flashlights. But looking more closely, they realized
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  Speaker 1: it was something much stranger, a dome shaped object about
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  Speaker 1: twenty feet wide hovering outside their home. They said it
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  Speaker 1: was only ten feet above the ground and about two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty feet away, they estimate, was sending down
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  Speaker 1: a beam of light from the central under section of
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  Speaker 1: the craft, and in this beam of light there was
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  Speaker 1: a sort of armlike device reaching down to the ground
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  Speaker 1: or towards the ground. It was making a very loud,
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  Speaker 1: buzzing noise and no sooner did they notice this object
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  Speaker 1: when they also noticed strange reactions with both their dogs
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  Speaker 1: and their children. And although the children were still asleep,
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  Speaker 1: they were acting very strange. As Vera, the mother says,
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  Speaker 1: our children were very restless. They were moaning as if
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  Speaker 1: something was hurting them. They were actually crying out in
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  Speaker 1: their sleep. The children are both quiet sleepers and once
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  Speaker 1: they are in bed they do not wake up unless
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  Speaker 1: they are sick. So it's clear that they were reacting
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  Speaker 1: somehow to the presence of this UFO, and so were
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  Speaker 1: the dogs. As Vera says, my poodle was most upset.
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  Speaker 1: He sleeps in our bedroom, and he pawed the side
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  Speaker 1: of the bed until I put him in bed with us.
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  Speaker 1: He was actually shaking from being so upset. But my
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  Speaker 1: fear for the children was what upset me most. I
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  Speaker 1: kept saying to my husband, what is going to happen
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  Speaker 1: to the poor children if someone should come into the house. So,
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  Speaker 1: after a few very long minutes, this object moved about
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  Speaker 1: twenty five feet to the east, but then it remained
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  Speaker 1: there for the next two hours. Now, having just moved
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  Speaker 1: into this house, the couple had no telephone. They became
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  Speaker 1: increasingly frightened by this strange spectacle. Both felt, as they said, quote,
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  Speaker 1: isolated and terrified. The husband actually wanted to leave and
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  Speaker 1: drive for help, but his wife refused to let him leave.
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  Speaker 1: And during all this time, this object continued to make
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  Speaker 1: this high pitched, buzzing noise. Vera says, during this time,
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  Speaker 1: I thought of all kinds of things. I kept hearing
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  Speaker 1: sounds throughout the house. Any other night, they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: meant a thing, but tonight they were most terrifying. Now. Finally,
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  Speaker 1: at four point thirty a m. The humming sound became louder,
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  Speaker 1: the light from the craft grew brighter, and the object
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  Speaker 1: finally moved off to the west, going over the tree
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  Speaker 1: tops and disappearing off into the distance. Took them a
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  Speaker 1: few hours to calm down, at which point the husband
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  Speaker 1: drove to the Claremont Police station and reported the incident
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  Speaker 1: to Police Captain Ernest M. Fauss, who reported this case
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  Speaker 1: to NICAP, which is how it became to be investigated.
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  Speaker 1: And as Vera says, our experience was very terrifying and
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  Speaker 1: I hope that it never happens again. However, if it should,
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  Speaker 1: I hope that my husband and I will be prepared
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  Speaker 1: by then to handle the matter in a better way.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, another case with two sets of independent witnesses.
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  Speaker 1: The gentlemen seeing the UFO just a few miles away
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  Speaker 1: before this couple did. But what's going on with their
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  Speaker 1: children makes me feel like there is perhaps some level
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  Speaker 1: of telepathic contact there. Very hard to say. I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to talk to the children and see if they remember
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  Speaker 1: anything from that night and hours long encounter too that
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  Speaker 1: I can see why the witnesses felt that this was
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  Speaker 1: very scary for them, even though clearly they weren't harmed.
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  Speaker 1: But an absolute amazing case that not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people know about. So many cases that are just being
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  Speaker 1: completely lost to posterity because the vast majority of people
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  Speaker 1: do not report them. Now here's another case that I'm
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  Speaker 1: quite sure you haven't heard about, but it's definitely worthy
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  Speaker 1: of being well known. I call this one pulled over
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  Speaker 1: by a UFO. This occurred in January of nineteen sixty nine,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps nineteen seventy. The witness isn't exactly certain about the date.
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  Speaker 1: This occurred in Lake Wales, Florida, one evening, and this
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  Speaker 1: is a scene straight out of the movie Close Encounters
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  Speaker 1: of the third kind. I'm not sure this would qualify
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  Speaker 1: as a close account of the second kind, but it's
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  Speaker 1: so interesting and unusual I just had to include it.
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  Speaker 1: Given the main witness in this case the pseudonym Brett,
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  Speaker 1: he is anonymous, and it was one evening in late
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  Speaker 1: January nineteen sixty nine or perhaps nineteen seventy, that Brett
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  Speaker 1: decided to drive to his father's house in Lake Wales, Florida.
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  Speaker 1: His father lived only six miles away. So it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a long drive and was one he had done many times.
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  Speaker 1: But on this occasion, something really remarkable happened. It was
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  Speaker 1: about seven p m. He had turned left on Highway
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  Speaker 1: sixty on a rural road, and, as Brett says in
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  Speaker 1: his own words, as I was about halfway there, I
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  Speaker 1: saw revolving blue lights in my rear view mirror. As
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  Speaker 1: I was in the city limits of town, I thought
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  Speaker 1: naturally that it was the local police pulling me over
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  Speaker 1: for a traffic violation. I thought perhaps I had been
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  Speaker 1: speeding or something, so I pulled over and stopped. At
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  Speaker 1: that moment, the interior of my pickup was flooded with light.
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  Speaker 1: I looked rearward and was shocked to find no one there,
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  Speaker 1: no police car, nothing. I then looked to my immediate right,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw an immense object just sitting there over
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  Speaker 1: a citrus grove. The craft was exceedingly close, about fifty
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  Speaker 1: yards off to my right and about a telephone pole's
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  Speaker 1: height from the ground level. It was very luminous and
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  Speaker 1: quite large, and with a typical saucer shape, like two
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  Speaker 1: saucers put together. I had the distinct impression that it
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  Speaker 1: was observing me and I felt like they wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to see it. To say that I was apprehensive was
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  Speaker 1: a bit of an understatement. It was an absolutely beautiful craft.
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  Speaker 1: It was huge, I estimate about fifty to seventy five
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  Speaker 1: yards in diameter. It was well enveloped in light, which
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  Speaker 1: didn't seem to radiate outward much, if at all. It
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be made of a metal similar to aluminum,
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  Speaker 1: bright and shiny, and there was absolutely no sound whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Brett had always been interested in UFOs, and he had
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  Speaker 1: read several accounts of so called abductions, so he was
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  Speaker 1: understandably nervous about this close presence of the UFO. As
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  Speaker 1: he says, I was scared stiff. I felt that my
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  Speaker 1: best recourse would be to leave. After I left, I
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  Speaker 1: looked back and it was gone. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: for a long time after that, I couldn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: tell anyone about it, like it wasn't important or something.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have any missing time, so I'm quite sure
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't abducted. But another strange thing about this is
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  Speaker 1: that the UFO or whatever it was, didn't arrive and
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  Speaker 1: leave in the conventional matter. It just appeared and then disappeared,
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  Speaker 1: poof gone. It was the most vivid thing I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: There were several things about this sighting that to me
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  Speaker 1: were peculiar. The first was the use of police lights.
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  Speaker 1: The UFO used simulated police lights to pull me over
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  Speaker 1: and then apparently sat there observing me. The second was
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  Speaker 1: the fact that this happened in a well populated area.
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  Speaker 1: A church and a hospital were nearby, as well as
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  Speaker 1: in a residential area. I shall never forget it. I
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  Speaker 1: think my sighting is very unique, and that I was
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  Speaker 1: pulled over by a UFO was almost on top of
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  Speaker 1: my truck. They were observing me and had forced me
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  Speaker 1: to pull over. Sometimes I wish I could see it again.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not sure that would qualify as a
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  Speaker 1: close encounter of the second kind, but let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: it did affect the environment in terms of the witness himself,
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  Speaker 1: and that has to be intentional. I mean, gosh, this
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  Speaker 1: UFO coming down right behind somebody and mimicking police lights,
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  Speaker 1: very much like what happened to Richard Ryfus and close
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  Speaker 1: encounters of the third kind. And I do know of
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  Speaker 1: other cases like that. It's kind of an amusing case,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm sure for the witness at the time, he
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  Speaker 1: was not laughing. Maybe now he is, but so unusual.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's move to the next case, which I call
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  Speaker 1: it was looking for me. This one does qualify as
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  Speaker 1: a close encounter of the second kind because the witness
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  Speaker 1: was struck by a beam of light which rendered him
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  Speaker 1: unable to move. This absolutely affected him physiologically. It's a
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  Speaker 1: good example of the so called os effect as well.
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  Speaker 1: This one occurred on July twenty five, nineteen seventy and
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  Speaker 1: Jabre lay bored in France. And this one is interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me because this gentleman stumbles upon a ufo in
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  Speaker 1: a pretty isolated area and again, as the title suggests,
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  Speaker 1: he feels that it was looking for him. This case
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  Speaker 1: first appeared in the August nineteen seventy one issue of
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  Speaker 1: the French ufo magazine Lumierre do l'a louis or Lights
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  Speaker 1: in the Night, and in fact it was the cover story.
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  Speaker 1: The witness is known only as at n G. He
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen years old at the time of his encounter,
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  Speaker 1: working as a baker's apprentice in the commune of Jabre
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  Speaker 1: les Board in Haute, Viennese, France. Was on the afternoon
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  Speaker 1: of July twenty five, nineteen seventy, that he decided to
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  Speaker 1: go hiking to collect some edible mushrooms in the countryside
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  Speaker 1: near his home in the village of Les Boord. Having
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  Speaker 1: grown up there, he was very familiar with the terrain
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  Speaker 1: and the woods. He reached an area about seven hundred
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  Speaker 1: meters from his home less than half mile known as
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  Speaker 1: puh Fourneau Little Furnace. You can see it here. It's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a small hill about four hundred and eighty meters high
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen hundred feet. It's a very lush, verdant area, thick
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: with trees and ferns, and in fact, the ferns were
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: almost as tall as Aten himself he measured five and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a half feet tall. Was around five thirty PM and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the sun was growing low on the horizon. As Atm
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: was climbing down the western slope of this small hill
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: when he noticed a metallic looking dome right in front
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: of him, no more than fifteen meters away, less than
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: fifty feet was sitting among the ferns, right in front
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: of a grove of fir trees. Now EIGHTM knew that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: there were no structures there, so he stopped in shock.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: But he was also intrigued and curious, so he took
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: a few more steps forward and used his walking stick
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to pull the ferns apart so he could get a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: better view. And the moment he did this, he was
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: instantly dazzled by a very bright yellow orange light emanating
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: from the object, or rather from three rectangular squares located
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: immediately below the top dome. Now the light was so
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: bright it was difficult for him to see the object clearly,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: but he could just discern that there appeared to be
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a wider, lower saucer shaped section below the lights. Now
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he compared the texture or the color of this object
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to a wrapper of a chocolate bar, in other words, silver.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: So ATM's initial curiosity now turned to fear as he
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: found himself utterly immobilized by the light. Although he wanted
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to flee, he was unable to move forward or backwards.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: He just stood there with his right foot placed forward,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: exactly where it was when he parted the ferns. He
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: was still able to move his eyes, and the glare
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: from the light was almost blinding, as he says, as
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: if it were coming from a lighthouse. And he had
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the distinct impression that, as he says, it was looking
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: for me. Now, he's not sure how long this part
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of his experience lasted, because he said he seemed to
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have lost all sense of time. He didn't notice that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the orange yellow beams of light had a very thin
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: green beam in the center. He also noticed that everything
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: seemed to be unusually quiet and still. Then, after an
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: undetermined period of time, the craft began to rise upwards.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: The beam left his body and he could now get
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: a clear view of the craft and could also move.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: He could now clearly see the narrow dome on top
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of the craft, below that a row of three or
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: four squarish windows, and below that a wider saucer shape
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: with what looked like three or four circular portholes around
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the circumference. He estimates it was about five to six
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: meters or fifteen to twenty feet wide and about two
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: point five to three meters high seven to nine feet
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: really about the size of a He did also notice
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: three short antenna on top, and very quickly this craft
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: moved off into the distance and disappeared. That's the kind
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of case that raises a lot of questions for me.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: What was that UFO doing there? Was it waiting for
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: this gentleman. Was this a random encounter? Why did it
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: strike him with this beam of light? Was he truly
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: paralyzed by the beam of light or was this more
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of a sort of frozen in fear response, Because I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: think that does take place in a lot of these cases.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: People assume they're immobilized, but at some point break free.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: They absolutely kind of overcome the fear perhaps and are
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: able to run away. I don't know, very hard to say,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: but I think that these are the kinds of cases
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: we need to take a closer look at because these
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: kinds of questions need to be answered. We don't know
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the answer to a lot of these weird effects that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: people are having with close encounters. Now let's move to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: this next case. This one is absolutely bizarre and incredible.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I call this one we were missing for a day.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: This occurred in September nineteen seventy three in Mansfield, Ohio.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy three has been called the Year of the Humanoids,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and towards the end of the year September and October,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the number of cases in this area was off the charts.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: This case doesn't involve humanoids, but it's very close to
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the very famous captain coin incident with a helicopter which
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: was apparently lifted by a UFO levitated to some degree.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: A lot of cases in this area at that time,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and this one is so unusual for a number of reasons.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: This case, which involves two teenage witnesses, has not been
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: formally investigated, but one of the witnesses is now a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: police captain and he has provided his first hand eyewitness
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: testimony of a really remarkable ufone counter which involves what
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: appears to be twenty four hours of missing time. As
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he is anonymous, i'll use the pseudonym Elliot. Was one
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: afternoon in September or October of nineteen seventy three. Eliot,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: then aged sixteen, and his thirteen year old younger sister,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: had just been dropped off the school bus in front
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: of their home on Cook Road. This is in suburban Mansfield, Ohio.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You can see it here. This area was a busy
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: two lane road with homes on either side of the road,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: about a half block from a school and a convenience store.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty populated area. And I'll just let Elliot
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: describe what he saw. As Elliot says I had exited
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the bus before my sister and stood waiting for her
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: on the sidewalk. As she stepped from the bus and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it pulled away, I was startled to see a large
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: object hovering over the street where the school bus had been.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I pointed it out to my sister and we both
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: stood captivated by its appearance and proximity. The craft was
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: approximately forty feet long and fifteen or twenty feet tall.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: It hovered silently thirty five or forty feet overhead, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: had lights encircling its cigar shaped structure. I believe there
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: was a larger red light on one end in a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: green light on the other, but the rest of the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: smaller lights were multicolored. Was of a metal which looked
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like brushed aluminium, and had no visible means of levitation
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: or propulsion, no wings, no propellers. I walked into the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: street underneath the craft and across the street to see
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it from the other side. There were no numbers or
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: letters of any kind displayed, and I could not see
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: any scenes for the release of landing apparatus. At one
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: point I picked up a rock to hear what it
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: would sound like bounced against the exterior, but my sister
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: dissuaded me from throwing it. We became increasingly distressed as
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I was not able to identify this object, and by
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the fact that we were alone. So Elliott and his
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: thirteen year old sister just stood there and stare at
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: this craft in astonishment, confusion, and some disbelief for the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: next fifteen minutes, and they did notice a few very
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: odd details. As Elliot says, it had been at least
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes since we first saw the craft, and during
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this time, remarkably, no one had passed by, No one
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: came out onto their front porch, no other kids walked
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the sidewalks, and no cars drove by. In retrospect, this
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: seems absurd given the time of day and the usual
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: traffic on Cook Road. We walked around and underneath the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: craft for fifteen or twenty minutes while it remained motionless
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and soundless above what should have been a busy suburban street.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: When I returned to the side of the street on
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: which my sister stood, I now saw a small black
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: oval slightly above the row of lights. We thought it
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: might be a window and waved, but there was no response.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Several minutes later, the craft silently shot up and into
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a small cumulus cloud which drifted away. So at this
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: point Elliot's sister turned to him and asked what was it,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and Elliott replied, I don't know. Do you think it
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: could be one of those UFOs the paper has been
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: writing about. So neither of them knew what it was.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But the biggest shock was yet to come. As Elliot says,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: we were both excited and scared as we walked into
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: our house, whereupon we both completely forgot about it. Although
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: we had no apparent memory of the event, I recall
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: that we were both very upset with our mother, whom
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: we accused of leaving us for a twenty four hour period.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Mom insisted she had never done such a thing, but
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: we were convinced we had experienced a full twenty four
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: hours without her. Now, for a few years, the entire
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: encounter was shrouded in complete amnesia. But one day, by
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: sheer synchronicity, Elliot spontaneously recalled the encounter. As he says,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: we both completely forgot this incident for three years. Three
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: years after our encounter, I had a sudden recall of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the events described above. While talking about the cosmos with
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: some college friends. I called my sister and asked her
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: if she had ever seen a flying saucer, and at
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: first she said no, But when I mentioned the school
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: bus in Ohio, she also had a sudden realization and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: literally gasped on the phone. Her memory of the event
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is almost exactly like my own, including the little window
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and the strange missing time. The missing time was particularly
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: perplexing to both of us, and to this day remains
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a disturbing reality. I know I am missing a day,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: but I cannot explain it. Both of us felt then
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and now that we are missing a twenty four hour
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: period of our lives. I am still fearful of what
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I saw, but I am more afraid of what I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: can and not remember. I suppose I'm just pretty damned
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: average in every way, except for this nagging experience, which
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: continues to haunt me now. Elliott does admit that there
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: are a few other very unusual events in his life
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: which are certainly related. He recalls that he used to
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: tell quote strange stories of little men when I was
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: very young. But as he says, life goes on. But
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I sure wish I could understand the whats and whys
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: of this event. As we know, missing time is the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: result of a ufon counter is not unusual, but generally speaking,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it's anywhere from twenty minutes to an hour or two,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and perhaps longer. But twenty four hours. That's crazy. I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: really wonder about this case because this UFO appeared exactly
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: as these children were coming off the bus, as if
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: it was waiting for them. It hung there for a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: long time. Where was all the traffic? This is a
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: really good example of this strange ozzy ear effect. There
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: should be traffic and people going up and down this
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: pretty busy street. Where were they. I suspect that they
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: were pulled, perhaps into the fourth dimension. I don't know.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I'm speculating here, but we have to account for these
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: weird effects, and they're still not fully understood. It's also
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: interesting that not only were they missing twenty four hours,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: they completely forgot about the UFO encounter for a couple
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: of years until just by chance, the brother spontaneously recalled this.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So that makes me wonder how many people have had
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: an encounter like this and don't really remember it at
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: all because it's just buried in amnesia. An amazing case
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: which raises all kinds of questions. Now let's move to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the next case. This one is so unusual. I have
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: never heard anything like this in terms of effects on
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: a witness. I call this one scared straight by a UFO.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It's not what you're thinking. I'm guessing I'd be surprised
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: if you've heard of this case. The physical effects on
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the witness ours again so bizarre. This one occurred on
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: September twenty second, nineteen seventy four, in Launceston. This is
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in Tasmania, Australia. This is a very close encounter and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I think you'll find this incredibly fascinating because of what
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: happened to this witness. This case comes from Paul B. Jackson,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: mufan research associate for Tasmania and the co founder of
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the Tasmania UFO Investigation Center. It appeared in the January
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five issue of Muffon's Skylook Journal. The witness
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: is known only as missus W. Late on the afternoon
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of September twenty second, nineteen seventy four, she was on
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Didillium Road in the Teyenne area, about thirty miles northeast
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: of Launceston, Tasmi, Australia. She was in her car and
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: had pulled off the narrow road to wait for a
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: relative to arrive. She was listening to her radio, which
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: just announced that the time was five twenty pm, so
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: she knew the exact time when suddenly, a brilliant, bright
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: light coming from outside the car illuminated the interior. At
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: that same moment, the radio began to emit a high
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: pitched whistle, so missus w leaned forward with the intention
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of turning off the radio and looking up through the windshield.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: She now saw the source of the illumination, because up
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: above the hill on the left side of the road
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: there was a glowing orange and silver object maneuvering between
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: two trees and coming down the hill towards her and
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the road. Now seeing that this object was heading straight
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: for her, miss w panicked and leaving the radio on
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: in her haste, she started up the car and started
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: backing up the road. This object approached slowly. She could
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: now see that it was about the size of a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: large car, was about fifty to sixty feet above the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: ground and descending as it came down towards the road.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: By the time it came over the road, it was
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: only five feet above the road and about sixty maybe
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: ninety feet away. The car radio was still making this
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: same whining noise. Missus W had backed up her car
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: about three hundred feet, at which point it became stuck
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: on the edge of the road. The UFO no hovered
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: stationery above the road ahead of her for about sixty seconds.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: She could see it perfectly, except that the glare from
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the upper dome of the craft was so bright it
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: made it difficult to look at. She could see it
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: had a dome on top, but the orange yellow light
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: coming from it was really bright that she had trouble
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: estimating its size. Beneath the dome, she could see that
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the craft was metallic silver gray and had a wide
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: brim with what looked like portholes, and below this there
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: were half a dozen bands and circles the object. This
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: section was about twelve feet wide, she estimates, and at
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the base in the center was a small revolving disc,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and below this she could see a box or a
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: tube of some kind protruding from the bottom of the craft.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So after hovering, the craft then dipped over to the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: right and moved away from the road over a valley
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to the southwest. Then it suddenly went straight up very
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: quickly and disappeared into the distance. As it moved off,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it looked like the tube object on the bottom split
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: into four sections, and miss W estimates that the entire
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: encounter lasted about four minutes. A pretty interesting sighting, but
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: there were some very interesting and truly bizarre after effects.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: One was at the radio, which had worked perfectly prior
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to the encounter, no longer worked properly, and the sound
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that came out of it was permanently distorted. Prior to
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the encounter, the car was very dirty, in fact, there
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: were cat footprints all over the front hood, but following
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the encounter, the front half of the car looked as
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: though it had been professionally polished clean, while the back
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: half remained as dirty as before. But the third and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: most bizarre effect miss W noticed immediately she had just
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: had her hair freshly permed into curls, but following the encounter,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: her permed hair turned immediately straight. The only other effects
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: was that missus W was so emotionally shaken by the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: encounter that she was sick for a number of days afterwards.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Prior to this sighting, she had never believed in UFOs,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: but following the encounter, of course, she changed her mind
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and became a believer. Investigators did check the area for
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: any Marx or magnetic variations, but nothing was found. Interestingly,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that Raaf also showed interest in the encounter and interviewed
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the witness personally. Ultimately, investigators concluded that missus w had
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: seen something truly unconventional, that she had a quote low
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: level daylight sighting of an unexplained aerial object that absolutely
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: qualifies as a close encounter of the second kind. There
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: must be some energy field surrounding these craft that allowed
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: this woman to have her hair straightened. How weird is that?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Also it cleaned her car, So I don't know, very odd.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I've never heard anything quite like it. I've heard of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: areas being swept clean of dust and things like this,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and strange effects on cars as well, but I've never
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: heard of anyone's hair being straightened lifted up, perhaps in
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a static electric charge, so perhaps it's related to that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: But how bizarre is that? It definitely qualifies is a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: truly bizarre encounter and a close encounter of the second kind.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And now let's move to the next one. This one
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: is again a really good example of this weird oz effect,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: This eerie silence the lack of traffic and other witnesses.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Though this one does involve another witness and it's very strange.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I call this one we were frozen in time. This
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: occurred one evening in June of nineteen seventy eight in Phoenix, Arizona,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: in a very crowded residential suburb. And I wanted to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: include this case because the witness is so lucid. She
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: describes this in such incredible detail. She's very obviously sincere
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and intelligent, and it's a very interesting encounter which apparently
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: does involve missing time as well. This case comes from APRO,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the Aerial Phenomenon Research Organization, and was published in the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: April nineteen seventy eight issue of the APRO Bulletin. It's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: around nine pm one evening in May or June of
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, nineteen seventy eight, nineteen sixty three, as
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a mother and her two children had taken a walk
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and were returning to their home in residential Phoenix, Arizona,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and as they reached the eleven hundred block of East
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Portland Street, near the intersection of Twelfth Street, not far
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: from their home. You can see it here. This is
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: when they saw a strange craft which was hovering right
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: next to someone's home. I'll just quote the witness directly
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: as she says, I found it difficult to believe that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: anything that size and shape could maneuver itself into a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: position so close to the house. Was absolutely silent. My
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: chief concern was for the children, that they not be frightened,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: But I myself was severely shaken, in fact terrified. I'm
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: sure this was because whatever it was was so close,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: not more than eighteen to twenty feet from me and
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: roughly fifteen to eighteen feet from the ground. The object
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: itself was round, with three concentric circleular rings, lessening in
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: size from the outer edge to the center. It was
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: exceptionally beautiful and about the size of a compact car,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: perhaps slightly larger. I can't adequately describe the whiteness and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the brilliance. There aren't any words for it. The lines
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: of the craft were clearly drawn, except for one specific area.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Here the intense glow and luminescence made it impossible to
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: describe anything. Was kind of a rim like halo, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the glow seemed to radiate within the top of the
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: craft was completely white and smooth and appeared flat, though
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: it was very bright white. The bottom was dark and
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: appeared even flatter. The bottom appeared to be dull metal,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: medium to dark gray in color, with some kind of
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: trube like protrusion visible at an angle to the left side. So,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: according to the witness, this craft had no windows, but
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: there was no doubt in her mind that this was
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: clearly a craft of some kind, and as she he said,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: an unidentified aerial object. She felt rooted to the spot
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and just stared at it in absolute astonishment, in some fear,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and as strange as its appearance was, the weirdness had
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: only just begun, because it was around this time she
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: noticed what researchers have come to term the ods effect.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: As the witness says, the eerie aspect was the absolute silence,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: as the thing just hung there in space, stationary for
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a few moments, after which it began to waver slightly,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: or quiver would be a better word. The wavering motion
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: made me fearful of a possible hypnotic influence. Not far
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: from the craft, on the left side of the front
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: lawn stood a middle aged man holding a hose. He
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: was in shadow, dressed in work clothes and looked fairly ordinary.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: The area was quite dark. The only light was from
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the object reflecting upwards and a nearby street light. I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: was on the verge of saying, sir, do you see
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: what I see? But I could not speak. He paid
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: no attention to the craft nor to me. All of
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: this occurred in less than one minute or so. It
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: seemed I lost all track of time. It seemed as
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: if all life had stopped except for the three of us,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: as if we were somehow frozen in time. Even the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: sound of insects could no longer be heard. Though normally
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood was overrun with dogs and cats, there were
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: none at the time of the sighting. It was as
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: if everything had suddenly stopped or been suspended in time.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I saw no autos in motion. I knew I had
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to get away quickly, as I had the distinct feeling
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: something might happen to us. I was more than a
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: little agitated, and mainly concerned for the safety of my children,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: because I felt we were somehow being observed. Now was
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: at this point that the witness was so overwhelmed with
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the strangeness of the situation that she managed to break
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: free of her trance and go away from this object,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: But she then found that the encounter was affecting her
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: emotionally in ways she did not expect. As the witness says,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: when I first cited the object, I only thought, my god,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: what is that. I wanted to run but could not.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I was able to walk away, and my feeling of
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: fear gave way to a kind of euphoria. I was
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: suddenly happy, and I can't explain why I was very
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: much afraid during the encounter. Upon leaving the scene, I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: felt a sense of euphoria and finally sadness. When I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: reached home, it seemed very late, later than it should
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: have been, and I sent the children to bed. I
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: pushed open the screen door because I wanted to go back,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: but still I was somehow afraid. I knew the UFO
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: would be gone, and I had this feeling of sadness
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: and depression. Just amazing the way this witness describes this
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: UFO being so close to it, the missing time aspect.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: This other gentleman watering his plants, not even paying any
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: attention to the UFO makes me wonder about that. I mean,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I have no answers to why he wouldn't be more
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: excited to see this UFO, unless maybe he didn't even
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: see it. I don't know. The emotional reaction to this
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: witness is also interesting, being so fearful and that yet
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: at the end of this encounter, feeling this wave of
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: sadness and depression very unusual. I think it does point
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: towards the very strong possibility of an onboard encounter or
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: more than she fully remembers, because again she did say
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: when she got home she was surprised to see that
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: it was so late. Missing time can often be seamless.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: People just don't know. So I've come to realize that
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: whenever anyone has a very close encounter within a couple
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of hundred feet, the chances of this being a much
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: much more extensive encounter go way way up. Now let's
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: move to the next case, again, a really unusual case
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: with some aspects to it that are very difficult to explain.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: This is another one you probably haven't heard before. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: call this one a timely UFO encounter. This occurred on
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: March twenty seven, nineteen seventy nine. This is in Oak Bluff's, Massachusetts.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: This is on the island of Martha's Vineyard. Pretty heavily populated.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: This one is a bizarre one for sure. This case
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: comes from muffan Field investigator Joseph Nyman, who has referred
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the case by Raymond Fowler. It came to his attention
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: when the local police at Martha's Vineyard called him. The
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: witness is Ed Brown. That's a pseudonym. He was nineteen
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: years old at the time of his encounter was ten
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: pm in March twenty seven, nineteen seventy nine, as he
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: drove north along the Edgartown Oak Bluffs Road right along
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the eastern shoreline of Martha's Vineyard you can see it here.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: And as he drove, he noticed an odd green glow
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: behind the sand dunes on his right and thought to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: himself that it must be people on the beach using
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: glow sticks. But as he drove this glow became brighter,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and then his radio started to emit a quote low
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: frequency hum. So he reached a point in the road
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: where his view was no longer obstructed by the sand dunes,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and then was amazed to see a luminous green, cylindrical
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: shaped object with rounded ends floating on the water about
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: two hundred feet away. He immediately stopped the car and
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: watched from the driver's seat as this object rose up
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: out of the water, and as it got so high
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: that his car roof blocked his view, he exited the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: car so he could keep viewing it. He said that
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the object was so bright that it was illuminating both
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the water and the beach below it. And then this
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: object began to move, increasing in speed. Edward called that
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: he had a twelve bolt flashlight in his car, so
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: he started to reach into the car, but to his surprise,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: he was suddenly paralyzed, unable to move any part of
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: his body except his head, so he just watched this
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: object as to continued to rise upwards and out of sight.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Now Ed estimated that the entire encounter lasted about six minutes,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: though when he later re enacted it in the presence
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of researcher Joseph Nyman, they lowered the estimate down to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: about two minutes, though to ed he said it seemed
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: much longer. Now Impressed by this event, ed immediately drove
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: to the Oak Bluff's police station you can see it
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: here and reported the sighting. Joseph Nyman spoke with the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: officer who took the report, and he saw that this
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: was logged in at ten thirty PM, which verifies the time,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and the officer said that Ed was unusually excited and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: somewhat frightened, which surprised him because he knew ed Ed
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: himself was in fact an auxiliary police officer. Now there's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a slight discrepancy of time here because Ed knew that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the sighting occurred at ten PM as he was listening
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: to the radio at the time. The drive to the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: station takes only ten minutes, and this sighting was no
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: longer than six minutes, so there is about a fifteen
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: to possibly twenty five minutes of time that is unaccounted for.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: There was one final mystery. At the time of the encounter,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: that was wearing a calendar watch that was malfunctioning. It
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: was reading three days ahead of normal time and was
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: running consistently too fast. But following the encounter, this watch,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: which was a manual timex watch, was now not only
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: reading the correct date, it stopped running fast, so it
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: looked as if the encounter had somehow not only corrected
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the date on the watch, but fixed the watch itself.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: They did test the watch with a compass to see
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: if it was magnetized, and it showed that no, it
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: had not been magnetized. But as Joseph Nyman, the researcher writes,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the most puzzling aspect of this case then and still
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: now is the watch correction issue. A lot of these
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: UFO cases display weird time effects, whether it's missing time.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I've talked to people who had essentially added time, got
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to their location far earlier than they should have, or
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: people who have an onboard encounter that lasts for hours
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and yet they were returned minutes after the encounter. So
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things going on here that we
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: don't fully understand. That's why I want to include this encounter,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: because the whole time aspect of UFO conors is very puzzling.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: So many questions still to be answered about what's going
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: on here. Now, let's move to the next case, which
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I call completely spellbound. This occurred on April nine, nineteen
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: ninety three, in brawn Schweig, Germany. This is a multiple
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: witness case. This one you may have heard of. I
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: don't know, but it did receive considerable publicity. But I
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: wanted to include it because this witness is very credible,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: being a military officer, and there were multiple witnesses as well,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and very very close upsiding with some incredible physiological effects.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I mean really the entire range from animal reactions to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: electromagnetic disturbances, to physiological effects to landing traces. So it's
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the kind of case that is truly undeniable. This case
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: comes from German researcher doctor Peter Hatwig, the founder of DIGOUFO.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: This is the German UFO Investigation Group, and it originally
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: appeared in the Dougforum Journal number eleven, but also appeared
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: in the winter nineteen ninety six issue of the Flying
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Saucer Review and in several other publications. It's become quite
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: well known regarding the witness in this case, Researcher Peter
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Hatwig says what he had to tell me was more
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: astounding than science fiction. This case involves two primary witnesses,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Irwin Lore and his wife. Erwin was seventy two years
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: old at the time of his encounter and was living
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: with his family in brown Schweig. This is a heavily
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: populated city in central Germany. Now he's a former fighter
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: pilot and an accomplished artist. Was shortly after midnight on
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: April ninth, nineteen ninety three, that Erwin woke up to
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: an unusual stabbing pain at the base of his spine.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: He didn't think much of it, just took a painkiller
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and went back to bed. But before he could fall
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: back asleep, something very strange happened that not only shocked
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: him but woke up his wife. As he says, suddenly
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: we heard a clear humming sound coming from the sky.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: After three or four seconds, this noise, which seemed metallic,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: as though produced by a centrifugal force, grew louder, and
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: then through the bedroom window we saw a bright, round,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: shining object stationary at a height of some ten meters
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: or so above the birch trees to the east our
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: bedroom in the terrace outside was lit by a bluish
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: white color like neon lighting. Being a former fighter pilot,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I wanted, of course to see what was going on.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: But when I tried to stand up, I found that
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I couldn't move, and with my wife it was just
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the same. We were both totally paralyzed. Also, our two kittens,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: which sleep on the foot of the bed, were both
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: sitting there, bolt upright and looking as though turned to stone. Meanwhile,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: our bedroom window was being bathed on and off in
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: a bright yellow beam of light, apparently coming down from above.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Now Erwin was more annoyed and not being able to move,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: than he was afraid, though his wife reports that she
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: herself was terrified. Erwin had the impression that the occupants
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: of the craft were seeking him personally, as he said, absolutely,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: for it was hovering right there beside me my bedroom window,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: as though they knew exactly where I was. It shimmered
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: with all the colors of the rainbow, white, green, red, yellow.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: The cupola was a bright, shining silver. The underside had
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: three colored apertures and a central light. The eerie apparition
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: lasted altogether about forty seconds or so, and then the
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: vivid light ended abruptly. Then, some thirty or forty seconds later,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: we saw the UFO fly over our bedroom window in
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a westerly direction and vanish simultaneously. The paralysis ended for
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: both of us. My wife was too upset to sleep anymore,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and so was I. Now Irwin's wife had, as Erwin says,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a thorough fit of the shakes. And while it seemed
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: as though the encounter was over, in truth, many more
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: high stranger events were about to occur, because, as Erwin says,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: about a half hour later, we heard the same sound again,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: coming from the other direction. Our bedroom has windows on
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: two sides, so we got a full view of the
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: UFO for the first time from a distance of about
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: three hundred meters. We watched it flying straight towards us.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: We heard the same sounds as before, and for about
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: six seconds we could see its shape clearly. Then, just
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: as about the disc, which I estimate was about ten
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: meters wide, was nearly right over us, something quite unbelievable happened.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: It simply dissolved into thin air. Between one tenth of
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: a second and another it was gone without any transition. Now,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: being an artist, Irwin immediately produced a few sketches of
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the craft. But still even more strange events were soon
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to happen, because it was the next day, at four
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: pm that their TV set started acting very strangely. It
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: emitted a bright flash of light and made this very loud,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: crackling sound, and one hour later their two other TV
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: sets that were downstairs he emitted what he called quote
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: phenomenal discharges. The computer also shut down by itself, and
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: then at ten pm something even more bizarre happened. As
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Erwin says, a tremendous banging started up inside our wardrobe,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: as though someone was shut in there. But despite all
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: our efforts in our searching, we could find absolutely no
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: reason for the noise, and every time we opened the
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: wardrobe the din stopped on and off. The eerie happenings
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: went on for a further eight weeks and disturbed us badly.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: No Another apparently related effect was that Erwin continued to
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: experience a strange pain in his lower spine, and after
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: a week of dealing with it, he finally used a
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: mirror to examine the area of the pain, and this
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: is when he discovered two red marks at the very
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: base of his spine. He went to the doctor, who
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: said that he saw what looked like two black spots
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: below the skin where the marks were. The doctor applied
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: some ointment and referred Erwin to have a cat scan, and,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: as Erwin says, but before I was able to go there,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: two little black, lens shaped things came out of my back.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I put them away carefully to show them to the doctor,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: but by the second day following they had simply disappeared.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Now Erwin had no idea how to explain these objects
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: or where they went. And when researcher Peter Hatwig mentioned
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the possibility of an onboard encounter, Erwin was absolutely shocked.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: He had never heard of such a thing, but he
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: later researched it and considered trying hypnosis, but so far
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: has not done so. And there were a few final
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: things that happened. After being interviewed by reporters and sharing
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: his encounter publicly, it was published in the local newspaper,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: and Erwin was then contacted by about twenty five different people,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: including an entire bowling team, all of whom told him
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: that they had also witnessed what was apparently the same object.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: On that all of them refused to go public as
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: eyewitnesses out of fear of ridicule. And finally there was
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: one bit of evidence. In addition to the weird electromagnetic disturbances,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: the animal reactions, the physiological effects, there were apparent ground
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: traces caused by the close proximity of the craft. As
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: doctor Peter Hatwig says, the birch tree below the UFO
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: had been burnt in the episode, and indeed has not
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: fully recovered today, as its leaves are turning curly and
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: falling already, although it's still summer. Edwin Lore showed me
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the spot. Now this was two years after the encounter.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: There you go, another case that raises I think more
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: questions than it answers. My main question is, what the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: heck is this UFO doing hovering right outside of this
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: guy's house in a downtown city location. It's crazy. I
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: do think that there's probably deeper levels of contact here,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: given that he was apparently implanted and all the weird
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: kind of Poltergeists like effects going on. It's crazy. These
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: kinds of cases, I think, comprise a good portion of
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: UFO and connors and don't receive the attention they deserve.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that we have congressional hearings and
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: they're still talking pretty much primarily about sightings. Yes, to
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: some extent crash retrievals, but there are so so many
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: cases where people are having very close contact and they're
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: not talking about that, which is puzzling to me because
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I think this is where we can get a lot
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: of the answers, this is where the data is. We
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: can learn so much from these kinds of cases, and
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: for that reason alone, I think we need to take
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: them seriously. And again, that's the kind of case that
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: you just can't deny with all this evidence. So now
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: let's move to the last and final case in the compilation.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: This one, to me is probably the most profound and unusual.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure it would even qualify as a ufoone encounter,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: though it was reported as such, So I am including
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: it here because it definitely could be a ufhone encounter,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: but it might have another explanation. I call this one
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: my body was no longer mine. This occurred on February second,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: two thousand and two, in Arlington, Washington, and thank god,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: this witness had another witness with her, So it's a
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: multiple witness encounter, because if this had happened to her alone,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I think it probably would have caused her to question
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: her sanity. That's how unusual this case is. As we'll
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: see this very unusual encounter. Yes, it's very difficult to categorize,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: but it is certainly unexplained. The witness is anonymous, so
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I'll call her Tina. And again, thankfully, Tina did have
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: another witness, her former boyfriend. It was around seven a m.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: On the morning of February second, two thousand and two,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: as Tina drove to his one bedroom apartment located in Arlington, Washington.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: They were planning to go out for breakfast, but instead
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: found themselves in his kitchen having a deep philosophical conversation
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: about the subject of religion and how it's helped or
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: hindered them. The kitchen was kind of shadowed and dark,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: so Tina asked if she could open the window, and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend said go ahead. It was at that moment
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: that Tina's life changed forever. As Tina says, I pulled
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the blinds away and was instantly blinded by this very white,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: bright light. Yet it didn't make me squint to look
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: at it, and I turned back to face him two
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: and a half to three feet away. I suddenly felt
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  Speaker 1: the sensation of being suspended in animation. I quit feeling
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  Speaker 1: the floor under my feet, and everything was white and hazy,
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  Speaker 1: but I could still see my boyfriend standing in front
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  Speaker 1: of me. My body was no longer mine, and I
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  Speaker 1: somehow leaned really far forward as I was close to
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  Speaker 1: his face. Then I slanted back again at the same angle,
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  Speaker 1: but I hadn't moved my feeter legs as I would
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  Speaker 1: have done naturally to catch myself from falling, but I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Right after that, I saw a portal. It was about
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  Speaker 1: seven feet tall and five feet wide, was liquid, looking
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  Speaker 1: like water. I don't know if it came over me
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  Speaker 1: or I into it, but there was a sound when
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  Speaker 1: I went through that I'll never forget. The white light
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  Speaker 1: was brighter, and I still felt suspended in animation. Suddenly
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  Speaker 1: there was this white ball of light coming around me.
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  Speaker 1: It was the size of a basketball, very white and
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  Speaker 1: very bright. It came to my torso and began to
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  Speaker 1: push itself into my body. I could feel it push
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  Speaker 1: and then popped through into me all the way. It
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  Speaker 1: bounced around inside of me a few times, and then
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  Speaker 1: I began to feel it trying to exit on my
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  Speaker 1: left side. It popped out completely, rolled around me a
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  Speaker 1: few times, and took off fast. Before it left, though,
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  Speaker 1: it put me back down on my feet, but it
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  Speaker 1: was at such a backward angle that I had to
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  Speaker 1: put my foot back so I didn't fall down, and
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  Speaker 1: I could that the orb of light exited Tina's body
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  Speaker 1: and took off. It then emitted a shower of golden
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  Speaker 1: light all over her. Tina was so stunned and dumbfounded
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  Speaker 1: that all she could do was stand there, and finally
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  Speaker 1: she turned to her boyfriend, and, as Tina says, now
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  Speaker 1: that I was back in my senses and my body,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak, I just asked myself, wtf just happened?
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  Speaker 1: I looked up my boyfriend and his usual brown skin
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  Speaker 1: was white in his face. His jaw was open, and
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  Speaker 1: he looked as a stunt decided, and I asked him,
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  Speaker 1: wtf just happened? I don't know, he told her, And,
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  Speaker 1: as Tina says, so we sat down and tried to relax,
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  Speaker 1: but we were both so shaken up that we began
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  Speaker 1: to go into shock. I had to know what he saw,
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  Speaker 1: so I asked him, and he said, as I drew
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  Speaker 1: up the kitchen blinds, this golden white orb came from
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  Speaker 1: behind me and lit up my red hair golden. He said,
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  Speaker 1: it was beautiful, like I was an angel. He saw
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  Speaker 1: it enter my right torso he also saw it while
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  Speaker 1: it was within me too, and saw it come out.
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  Speaker 1: Now in our talking, we're really starting to shake uncontrollably
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  Speaker 1: in shock, which just so hard to even attempt to
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  Speaker 1: understand this. So the encounter left both of them with
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  Speaker 1: more questions than answers, as Tina says, was this spiritual
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  Speaker 1: or was it an et encounter? She doesn't know, but
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  Speaker 1: the effect of the encounter on her has been long
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  Speaker 1: lasting and ongoing, and she says, I feel like I've
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  Speaker 1: had information downloaded into me. I got a message too
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  Speaker 1: that quote. We humans often cannot tell the difference between
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  Speaker 1: angels and aliens. She says, I've had many knowings where
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  Speaker 1: I just know stuff that I haven't studied. I became
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  Speaker 1: in tune with spirit and have acted as a medium
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  Speaker 1: for many friends, but now that seems gone. The experience
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  Speaker 1: did not scare me. It gave me hope, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel that I've got family elsewhere. The entity that came
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  Speaker 1: to me was a benefit to my life. Was so
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  Speaker 1: white and bright. It was just pure energy. They don't
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  Speaker 1: need a body, just light. It showed me what my
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  Speaker 1: mission was visions and dreams, etc. I'm a very lucid dreamer.
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  Speaker 1: Fun but terrifying as well. There you go. Definitely a
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  Speaker 1: close encounter of some kind and clearly did affect the witness.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps it's a spiritual encounter involving some kind of perhaps
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  Speaker 1: angelic entity. I don't know. It's very hard to categorize
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  Speaker 1: some of these cases. Again, she did report it to
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  Speaker 1: a UFO center, so I'm including it here. And I
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  Speaker 1: have heard of similar cases of people seeing orbs and
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  Speaker 1: having them enter into their body. I know of one
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  Speaker 1: case where that happened to a gentleman and he was healed.
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  Speaker 1: So this does seem to be intentional, and yet there's
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  Speaker 1: this weird random quality to it. Her lifting up the
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  Speaker 1: blinds and that's when it happens, which makes me wonder
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  Speaker 1: if what if she hadn't turned around and opened the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen blinds, would this not have occurred? Or was this
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  Speaker 1: all planned and preordained? Very hard to say. I also
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  Speaker 1: find it super interesting that this incident occurred when these
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  Speaker 1: two were having a very profound and philosophical conversation about
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  Speaker 1: religion and God and this kind of thing, because that
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  Speaker 1: is a pattern we see in a number of these cases.
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  Speaker 1: An encounter occurs at a sort of pivotal moment in
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  Speaker 1: a person's life. I don't know. There you go, ten
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  Speaker 1: cases close encounters of the second kind. You'll agree that
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  Speaker 1: these are all truly fascinating and have some really interesting
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  Speaker 1: aspects to them that we have yet to fully understand.
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  Speaker 1: And that makes them profoundly important. I've said it so
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  Speaker 1: many times, but I think these UFO encounters have so
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  Speaker 1: much to teach us, that offers us an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: learn so much about what's going on beyond Earth. It's
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  Speaker 1: clear to me that we are not alone. How do
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  Speaker 1: you explain these cases? If these aren't craft, what are they?
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  Speaker 1: Something is obviously going on here that deserves much more study,
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  Speaker 1: much more attention. And I know a lot of you
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  Speaker 1: out there are having these encounters because this is another
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  Speaker 1: thing I keep repeating, but it's so important. One in
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  Speaker 1: one hundred people maybe report their encounter to perhaps move
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  Speaker 1: on Mutual UFO Network or Newfork, the National UFO Reporting Center,
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  Speaker 1: and that's just in the United States. Between those two
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  Speaker 1: they have some two hundred three hundred thousand documented cases.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about qfos or Nightcap or
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  Speaker 1: APRO or the many many other UFO reporting centers in
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  Speaker 1: the United States alone. So yeah, millions of documented cases.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt this subject is real. So I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: it's finally getting some attention at least, and we're moving
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  Speaker 1: beyond the skepticism, the ridiculing and the gaslighting of UFO witnesses,
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  Speaker 1: because definitely it's no joke to those who have this experience.
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  Speaker 1: So that's it for today. Thanks so much, guys. I
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  Speaker 1: really appreciate you guys watching. I'll be doing more humanoid cases,
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  Speaker 1: of course, but again close encolors of the second kind
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  Speaker 1: are just as important. So thank you, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well, and until next time, keep
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: asking those hard questions, keep searching for the truth. Don't
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: believe me, do your own research this is going on.
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  Speaker 1: Most important of all, keep having fun and I'll see
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  Speaker 1: you next week. Bye for now.