Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Reed Smith, MBA, Chief Consumer Officer at Ardent Health Services
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- 0:00This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:02podcast.
- 0:03I'm thrilled today to be joined by Reed
- 0:04Smith, chief consumer officer at Ardent Health. Reed,
- 0:07it's a pleasure to have you on the
- 0:08podcast today.
- 0:10Yeah. Thanks for having me. Now I'm excited
- 0:12to, have you in on this discussion because
- 0:15I know you're doing some really cool things
- 0:16at Ardent Health and certainly will be excited
- 0:18to learn more about how you're thinking about
- 0:20growth in the future as well. But before
- 0:22we dive in, I'm wondering, could you tell
- 0:24us a little bit more about Ardent Health
- 0:25and what makes it unique?
- 0:27Sure. Absolutely. So, yeah, Ardent Health, we're based,
- 0:30in Brentwood, Tennessee, just outside of Nashville, but
- 0:33have,
- 0:3430 hospitals, another couple hundred sites of care,
- 0:38scattered around the country. We're in six states,
- 0:41eight different markets,
- 0:42and,
- 0:44and provide
- 0:45care to about 1,200,000,
- 0:48unique lives every year.
- 0:50Oh, it's amazing to hear. Certainly a big
- 0:52responsibility, but an important service to the broader
- 0:55community. Now I'm wondering, could you talk a
- 0:57little bit about, the accomplishments that you're most
- 0:59proud of from the last year or so?
- 1:02Absolutely. So, you know, in my in my
- 1:05role as we think about consumer centricity or
- 1:08consumerism
- 1:09or however you wanna define that.
- 1:11You know, we're we're hyper focused on
- 1:14the needs of our communities, the needs of
- 1:16consumers that we serve.
- 1:18And I think, you know, for us,
- 1:20it's been really neat to see some of
- 1:22those advancements that we've been able to drive
- 1:24forward,
- 1:25in these communities
- 1:27around,
- 1:28you know, trying to remove some of the
- 1:29friction points for,
- 1:32for patients, for consumers as they
- 1:34search for care, schedule care, check-in for care,
- 1:38you know, things like that. Right? So,
- 1:40you know, trying to make it a little
- 1:41bit easier for folks, let it look like,
- 1:44the rest of their life to some degree.
- 1:47You know, how to use your mobile device,
- 1:49for example, to,
- 1:51not just search for care, but schedule online,
- 1:54check-in online,
- 1:56you know, join a wait list to look
- 1:58for an earlier appointment time, things like that.
- 2:00So we've been able to,
- 2:03add some things, like a wait list and
- 2:05backfill
- 2:06opportunity for those that have scheduled care with
- 2:09us. We've seen folks move up their
- 2:11appointment time last year, an average of a
- 2:13little over twenty eight days,
- 2:15for those that that did that.
- 2:18And and, again, just, you know, allowing,
- 2:21the consumer to, you know, be in charge,
- 2:24I guess. So a lot of neat opportunities
- 2:26and and more to come.
- 2:29Absolutely. That's, you know, really cool to hear.
- 2:31And I I think especially when you look
- 2:33at that consumer experience and how technology
- 2:36is playing a big role in easing a
- 2:38lot of these processes and making things more
- 2:41efficient as well as,
- 2:42you know, a better experience for patients. I'm
- 2:45curious,
- 2:46if you think about how the digital,
- 2:49landscape is changing and and especially for health
- 2:53care, what are you really seeing as some
- 2:56of the big growth opportunities and,
- 2:58ways that you're hoping to continue to evolve
- 3:01in the next year or so?
- 3:04Yeah. I I think, you know,
- 3:07as more time goes by, the expectation
- 3:10it it it moves from just, hey. This
- 3:12is nice or this is helpful to more
- 3:15it's expected.
- 3:16Right? So we talk about online scheduling.
- 3:20We talk about the ability
- 3:21to accomplish most of your care,
- 3:25you know, in the palm of your hand,
- 3:26you know, through the patient portal,
- 3:29you know, virtual care even. You know, obviously,
- 3:32we saw a big spike during the pandemic.
- 3:34But,
- 3:35now that things are back to the more
- 3:37the way that we remember them, you know,
- 3:39what is the role for virtual care? Right?
- 3:41So is the lower acuity services that may
- 3:44be needed,
- 3:45you know, how are we able to help
- 3:48individuals
- 3:48if they want
- 3:50to launch an on demand video visit,
- 3:53right now, right, versus going to an urgent
- 3:55care clinic versus waiting for a scheduled appointment.
- 3:59So, you know, it's gonna be required that
- 4:01we have all of these options available to
- 4:04the consumer,
- 4:05and we make it easy for them to
- 4:07to find the care that fits their lifestyle,
- 4:10their
- 4:11level of illness? Obviously, folks that have chronic
- 4:14conditions have a very different,
- 4:16view of the world and and a very
- 4:18different need. And then, ultimately, how do you
- 4:20take into account,
- 4:21you know, some of the chronic care management,
- 4:24including social determinants of health. You know, how
- 4:26do we make it easy for people,
- 4:29to get to us, to find us, to
- 4:30have more of a proactive or wellness based
- 4:32approach,
- 4:34outside of just the traditional, you know, I
- 4:36guess, maybe definition of even population health. Just
- 4:39how do we serve these communities.
- 4:41So I think folks are gonna want care
- 4:43on their own timeline
- 4:45in the way that they want it. And
- 4:47it's, it's gonna become more of an expectation
- 4:49of organizations
- 4:50than it is,
- 4:52kind of a unique,
- 4:53piece of an organization that you may
- 4:57see. Got it. That's helpful to know and
- 4:59understand. And I think that's a really important
- 5:01point that you made about,
- 5:03technology
- 5:04becoming the expectation
- 5:06versus the, really cool thing or nice to
- 5:08have. And I can imagine, you know, trying
- 5:10to keep up with whatever the the next
- 5:11thing is going to be,
- 5:14can be a challenge, especially as you're trying
- 5:16to solve some really big issues.
- 5:18And as you mentioned, looking at where chronic
- 5:20care makes the biggest, difference, population health management
- 5:23is a huge, huge,
- 5:25transition. And so, you know, when you you
- 5:27would think about what's coming and what's ahead,
- 5:30are there any technologies that you're looking at
- 5:32right now, or or considering,
- 5:34and where do you really see things headed
- 5:36over the next three to five years or
- 5:37so?
- 5:39Yeah. It's a great question. I think,
- 5:41there's certainly a lot of technology out there.
- 5:44There's a lot of opportunities, which is exciting.
- 5:46Right? And,
- 5:48you know, as we think about
- 5:51the evolution of our technology or technology stack
- 5:54within our organizations,
- 5:56it's gonna be important.
- 5:57You know, people talk about interoperability,
- 5:59and you've seen a lot of the,
- 6:02articles and and kind of insights even around
- 6:04privacy and security as of the last couple
- 6:06of years.
- 6:07These are all big topics to solve for.
- 6:11I think the interoperability
- 6:12piece, especially from,
- 6:15I guess, an opportunity or even a a
- 6:17challenge or a hurdle,
- 6:20again, how do you reduce those friction points,
- 6:22and and how do you make it easy
- 6:23for individuals? We can't,
- 6:25you know, have an organization full of a
- 6:28bunch of point based solutions
- 6:30that don't talk to each other.
- 6:32You know, they've gotta be able to hand
- 6:33off. The consumer doesn't need to have to
- 6:36know where to go. It should guide them
- 6:38intuitively and and allow them a path to,
- 6:41again, search, schedule, find care, receive care.
- 6:45All of those things have to, you know,
- 6:47be strung together in a way that that
- 6:49makes sense and is easy. You know, how
- 6:51do you make we talk a lot about
- 6:53the ease here, you know, ease of use,
- 6:55ease of experience, ease of access.
- 6:58And so
- 7:00I think what I'm most excited about is
- 7:03the blurring of the lines between the different
- 7:06parts of the organization.
- 7:07So,
- 7:08someone like myself that maybe is over a
- 7:10lot of our, you know, outreach and engaging
- 7:12the consumer,
- 7:14all the way through the experience piece. So
- 7:17how do we attract someone to the organization
- 7:19and and provide them a a positive or
- 7:22a a great experience?
- 7:24There in between those two topics is care
- 7:27delivery.
- 7:28And so if you look at things like
- 7:29wearable, if you look at things like remote
- 7:31patient monitoring, some of the other virtual care
- 7:34services,
- 7:35it just becomes part of one one thing.
- 7:39It's just, you know, how people,
- 7:42receive care and the experience they ultimately have.
- 7:46And so I think that's what's the most
- 7:48exciting part to me is being able to
- 7:50work with our operators, with our clinicians,
- 7:53to develop and kinda architect these care solutions
- 7:57in these experiences
- 7:59and these journeys, quite honestly.
- 8:01And I think technology
- 8:02allows us to do that.
- 8:05And so, again, we're at a really unique
- 8:07time.
- 8:08If you look at, all the technology that's
- 8:10come out over the last few years and
- 8:12what they're talking about coming down the down
- 8:14the path to really create a journey that's
- 8:17just that much more,
- 8:19impactful and serves the communities that we're in.
- 8:23That makes a lot of sense and, you
- 8:25know, really helpful to understand the process and
- 8:28seeing how you look at and evaluate new
- 8:30technologies and new opportunities and then,
- 8:32really have that patient focus and community focus
- 8:35in mind.
- 8:36Another thought I had is, you know, lots
- 8:39of really cool things ahead, but I can
- 8:40imagine challenges as well. What are some of
- 8:43the the challenges or headwinds that you have
- 8:45top of mind today?
- 8:47Yeah. So I think,
- 8:49you know, one of them is just philosophic
- 8:52you know, philosophically
- 8:53thinking about the idea of opportunity.
- 8:56There's no shortage
- 8:58of ideas or processes or technology
- 9:01out there that, you know, would help,
- 9:04in in ideas and,
- 9:07even points that you want to go solve
- 9:09for.
- 9:10But where do you start? How do you
- 9:12prioritize? You know, you you get into the,
- 9:15you know, the idea of just
- 9:17resourcing.
- 9:18You know, there's only so many hours in
- 9:20the day, so to speak. So, you know,
- 9:22what is gonna be most impactful for the
- 9:25communities that you're in? You know, somewhere,
- 9:28you know, our organization may be different than
- 9:30another organization. It doesn't make it right or
- 9:32wrong. They're just different.
- 9:35And, so, again, you know, trying to think
- 9:37through that. So that that that is one
- 9:39big hurdle because, again, there's no shortage of
- 9:41of good ideas.
- 9:43Right? And so how do you,
- 9:45leverage those,
- 9:46to, you know, serve the communities that you're
- 9:49in? So that that's a big one. I
- 9:51mentioned interoperability
- 9:52a few minutes ago.
- 9:54So how do you tie all of these
- 9:56technologies together?
- 9:58And, ultimately, how do you use the data
- 10:00that you're receiving
- 10:03to actually create insights that allow you to
- 10:05better a process,
- 10:07and drive back and hardwire things? And so,
- 10:09again,
- 10:11some of the processes and things like that
- 10:13and even the workflows that we've thought about
- 10:15for years,
- 10:17how do you keep that front of mind
- 10:20as new technologies come into play?
- 10:23And then certainly, you know, not losing that
- 10:26human touch,
- 10:27not using,
- 10:29losing, you know, what what the caregiver provides
- 10:32to the equation.
- 10:33How do we use technology to eliminate some
- 10:36of the administrative burden? Right? But how do
- 10:38you create a culture
- 10:40and a a pathway,
- 10:43for those that are providing care,
- 10:46to do that in the most impactful way
- 10:48possible? Then how do us, on the more
- 10:49administrative
- 10:51side, support those individuals
- 10:53and make it a place everybody wants to
- 10:55work? So, again, I I think there's a
- 10:57lot out there that we need to assess,
- 10:59and there's a lot of, you know, hurdles,
- 11:01if you will.
- 11:02But the biggest
- 11:03is prioritization
- 11:04and then, interoperability,
- 11:07and then support,
- 11:09around the the clinicians and the caregivers that
- 11:11we have.
- 11:13That's great to hear, and and certainly,
- 11:16makes a lot of,
- 11:18sense in terms of having the ability,
- 11:21to support your team in,
- 11:23incorporate technology in a smart and meaningful way
- 11:26without,
- 11:27as you mentioned, having it be,
- 11:29depersonalized.
- 11:30I know health care is such a a
- 11:31personal industry, and and those relationships really do
- 11:34count and matter.
- 11:36Yeah. Absolutely.
- 11:37It it again, it's it's about people at
- 11:39the end of the day. And so the
- 11:41technology has to work. Our CEO says all
- 11:43the time, we're starting to get to a
- 11:44place where the technology works for us,
- 11:47versus we're working for the technology.
- 11:50And, so I think that's, you know, some
- 11:52of what we're starting to see. You know,
- 11:53we're kinda cresting the hill
- 11:55because of some of the advancements
- 11:57that a lot of really smart people in
- 11:59this space have made
- 12:02over the last several years. And so, again,
- 12:05you know, how do we use this
- 12:07technology,
- 12:09to better,
- 12:11the care that we're providing to the communities
- 12:13that we serve?
- 12:15Fantastic. Well, Reid, before we wrap up here,
- 12:18I'm curious.
- 12:19To look into,
- 12:21balancing, you know, the current needs as well
- 12:24as future planning, what is the number one
- 12:26most important thing that you're doing right now
- 12:28to set Arden up for long term success?
- 12:32You know, a lot of it,
- 12:35I I think the biggest thing that we're
- 12:36doing right now,
- 12:38to really drive towards that long term success
- 12:43is looking at the prioritization
- 12:45and the ability to support those
- 12:48that provide care,
- 12:50to our patients, to our consumers. And so,
- 12:53again, how do we make their life easier?
- 12:55How do we, unburden them,
- 12:58from some of the issues,
- 13:00more administrative, you know, that that people have
- 13:02been saddled with for some years? And I
- 13:04think that's really where technology has, an opportunity.
- 13:07So you think about the things like, you
- 13:09know, the ambient listening,
- 13:11around being able to scribe, you know, notes
- 13:13and things like that. You know, how can
- 13:15you look for ways to, you know, give
- 13:17some of the human aspect of care back
- 13:20where a clinician can engage with a patient
- 13:23and not have to worry about, you know,
- 13:25you know, typing away, pecking away on a
- 13:27on a keyboard the entire time. And so
- 13:30I I think, you know, we're we're investing
- 13:32in those areas around patient care.
- 13:35We're also investing in the ways to reduce
- 13:38those friction points and make it easier for
- 13:40people to access the system in the first
- 13:42place. And so,
- 13:43again,
- 13:45reducing wait times, getting people where they need
- 13:47to go, and that could be on the
- 13:49phone, it could be in person,
- 13:51giving them optionality around how they receive care.
- 13:55Again, all creating kind of that ease of
- 13:58access and ease of use within our communities.
- 14:02I love that. Rean, thank you so much
- 14:03for joining us on the podcast today. This
- 14:05has been a really enlightening conversation, and I
- 14:07look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 14:09Absolutely. Thanks for having me.