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Patriots Unfiltered 2/2: Tom Brady's Legacy and Retirement Plans · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday here at Gillette Stadium, and uh boy,
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  Speaker 1: the buzz was created yesterday by one Tom Brady, retiring
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  Speaker 1: one day from the year he retired last year. But methinks,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody else does that this is it. This is
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  Speaker 1: truly the farewell for Tom from his playing days in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I think so too. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's a marketing campaign for a Brady From what I understand,
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  Speaker 1: that movie needs all the marketing you can get. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. Deuce is here, Alex is here,
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  Speaker 1: Paul's here, and yes, we're gonna be talking about Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady and his announcement yesterday. One thing I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: about on the way home before last season, I said,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be Brady's last year, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is before the divorce. I just felt that that
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  Speaker 1: was it. But then when he got divorced, I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, he's probably gonna play again. But then
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking last night, you know if I think
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  Speaker 1: this is a lot about the kids, because like, if
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  Speaker 1: you're married and you work a lot, at least when
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  Speaker 1: you do come home, the kids are there. But when
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  Speaker 1: you get divorced and you work a lot, you come home,
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  Speaker 1: the kids aren't there. So if you saw them not
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  Speaker 1: enough when you were working and married, you're gonna see
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  Speaker 1: him even less now. And I think that was a factor.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't take that into consideration when I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: now he's gonna play. Now, it's even tougher to see
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  Speaker 1: his kids, you know, even assuming they have them split. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so now it's even tougher if he's continued
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  Speaker 1: to play where he doesn't control his schedule. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that that probably was a reason one of the
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  Speaker 1: reasons why he said, you know what, I got to
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  Speaker 1: do it now. Yeah. The kids are getting older too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just Vivian's probably the last one who's
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  Speaker 1: still I mean, I think Ben, in the middle one
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  Speaker 1: is probably getting ready to go to high school or
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  Speaker 1: some sort. So I mean, yeah, the oldest one. I
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  Speaker 1: think is starting prep school, right or something like Jack. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how do I know all their names? Yeah, we all do.
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  Speaker 1: I know their dogs too. Yeah, So like I now
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  Speaker 1: now it makes it makes a little bit more sense
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  Speaker 1: to me, you know, yeah, I think so. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I I think last year was such a like false
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  Speaker 1: start with everything, and it happened and he kind of
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  Speaker 1: got I like that. This time, he just was like,
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  Speaker 1: what's up. It's me on my phone. I used up
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  Speaker 1: my last years Yeah hello, yeah, hi, hello from the
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  Speaker 1: other side. But last year's announcement still people are rankled
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  Speaker 1: about it around here because it was all Tampa Bay focused. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know. I saw somebody tweet out, like I hope
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  Speaker 1: he forgets to thank somebody, you know, because there's always
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  Speaker 1: some outrage that I left one person out, like right,
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  Speaker 1: oh he didn't say thanks to that one guy. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it's overall just it feels like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you had a fall start last year for as a
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  Speaker 1: Patriots fan, putting that fan hat on. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's you feel like he's back in the family,
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  Speaker 1: he's back in the fold. I mean, not for me,
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  Speaker 1: of course, we all know how I feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: But but good to get him back, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I assume we'll get into one day contracts and potential
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  Speaker 1: Brady ceremonies and all kinds of fun things that are
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  Speaker 1: coming down the pipe. Yeah. I mean, Robert Krapf was
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  Speaker 1: on CNN today and said he's going to do everything
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  Speaker 1: in his power to bring him back here. So I
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  Speaker 1: hope that happens for a one day contract for whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you know, any capacity will take him. Yeah. You know,
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  Speaker 1: funny because a lot of people here are, like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the newer employees in the content department, like
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  Speaker 1: I just like to meet him. I'm like, you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I realize like people hadn't even like been
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  Speaker 1: around him, Like, well, that's the thing, you know, people
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  Speaker 1: will been here twenty years hadn't met him. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's not the way it works here. I know. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I sat in a press conference that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really count. I know. It's not like the ESPN commercials
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  Speaker 1: where we're you know, bumping into people in the cafeteria
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  Speaker 1: and you know, except for Paul who gets you know,
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  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's coming up just to check in. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sure, he mingles with those Joe O'Brien where
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  Speaker 1: he get his video the other day? Buttered him up.
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  Speaker 1: You find out what he's gonna do, you get with
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  Speaker 1: the loader. That's what happens. Well, now you're on the
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  Speaker 1: same level as them. They don't even have to go
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  Speaker 1: upstairs to see you. It's true. So any thoughts, um,
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  Speaker 1: Paul or alex Son yesterday's announcement. Like you said, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel like it was like one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, do I just retweet the gushy post
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  Speaker 1: I posted last year? I don't know. I was desensitized
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  Speaker 1: to the news. Yeah, I guess you could say, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean nonetheless, like I'm a girl who my dog's
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  Speaker 1: name is Brady. I mean, I'm probably Mike doesn't like you.
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  Speaker 1: That's a bad name. I was thinking, Mike, maybe now
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  Speaker 1: you'd soften at you know that he's all right finding
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my dog's ten years old. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: I named him Brady like two years ago. You know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he only had like three Super Bowls at that point.
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  Speaker 1: You were you were still kind of ahead of the Paul,
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  Speaker 1: You're disgusted with the whole thing. No, I'm not. I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you. I'm wrong. I was wrong because I thought
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  Speaker 1: he was going to keep playing. But I think it
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  Speaker 1: might have been as simple as he's told us for
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  Speaker 1: a long time that I'm going to play until him
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  Speaker 1: forty five. Yea, he turned forty five, he stopped playing, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I mean I was with you, Fred. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that the way that you know, not so much about
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  Speaker 1: the divorce, but the way the season ended, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think you would want to go out like that. But
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  Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee if he played it would be
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  Speaker 1: any bad, correct, And I think that the other thing
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  Speaker 1: that he always said was you know when I'm not
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  Speaker 1: you know when I say when I stock, I'll stopped playing.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think he sucked last year, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he played very well. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: he would know more than we would how much him
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  Speaker 1: not playing up to his normal standards was because of
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  Speaker 1: him or because of all the other reasons that we
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  Speaker 1: gave all year. No running game, offensive line a mess,
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  Speaker 1: no preparation in the off season, missing eleven days of
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  Speaker 1: training camp, and going through a divorce. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: saw it physically. He looked like hell, you know at
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  Speaker 1: times during the course of the year. But only only
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  Speaker 1: he would know yeah. Yeah, that's part of why I
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  Speaker 1: didn't play well, but it's not the only reason why.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't think about when he first got to Tampa Bay,
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  Speaker 1: Like he got in there and he was doing stuff
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  Speaker 1: during COVID when he wasn't supposed to, and he was
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  Speaker 1: redoing the culture in Tampa Bay. But then as it
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  Speaker 1: went along, I think that offseason Rah Rah kind of
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  Speaker 1: tapered a little bit, kind of like a reality check. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then he realized, you know what, if I do
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  Speaker 1: go to another team, which probably is what's going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to like reinvest that same energy and
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  Speaker 1: I may not have it in So you didn't buy
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  Speaker 1: the Jeff Darlington report that he had told Tampa that
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  Speaker 1: it was it was either going to be retirement or Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: He might have told him that, but I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: Like if you know San Francisco, obviously now is out
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  Speaker 1: of the question because but if San Francisco came calling,
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  Speaker 1: you don't think he'd be listening. I just asked if
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  Speaker 1: you bought the Yeah, I don't. I think, I think,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think in these contract negotiation and
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  Speaker 1: leveraging you say things, but you're always willing to listen
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  Speaker 1: to whatever anyone happened. Yeah, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people with you, you know, they said that the timing
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  Speaker 1: of it. You know, within the last week, Miami has publicly,
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  Speaker 1: um you know, stated there sticking with Tua, and San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco has kind of stated that, you know, Garoppolo's going
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  Speaker 1: and we have these other two guys in Trey Lance
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  Speaker 1: and Brock Party that we feel good about. Maybe he
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  Speaker 1: just felt like there was no open door there. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I also thought it was interesting that Darlington brought up
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  Speaker 1: what we've talked about on this show a lot. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody just automatically had him going to the Raiders, and
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  Speaker 1: Darlingtons would have alluded to the fact that not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: because of Josh McDaniels, because I don't think it was
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  Speaker 1: great with Josh McDaniels when he left here, right, and again,
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  Speaker 1: I think the kids are a factor, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: like even if like it's just approved Zelle wrong, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I do care about these kids, you know. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: like in the heat of moments, things were said by
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  Speaker 1: both sides about you don't care, you don't care you
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  Speaker 1: and like, you know, he wants to prove to you
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  Speaker 1: know to her maybe like, no, this is the kids
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  Speaker 1: are imported to me? You kidding me? If not, prove
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  Speaker 1: her wrong. I could totally see them getting back together.
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  Speaker 1: You really with someone that long? And then I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so else. I don't think there's ever
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  Speaker 1: a clean break. There's there's reports in TMZ being leaked
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  Speaker 1: from clearly his camp that he's not dating. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's trying to play. I don't know. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I would lose a lot of respect for
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  Speaker 1: him if he did that. I really wish. Not that
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  Speaker 1: it's any of my business, it's not I get it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll sit it out. I would just say something interesting
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  Speaker 1: to highlight probably Alex's side of the street a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but Logan Ryan's wife. And if you saw that Alex
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  Speaker 1: had had a really good post on on Instagram and
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  Speaker 1: just said, um that Brady and his daughter and Ben
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  Speaker 1: and Logan Ryan and his son and his wife as
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  Speaker 1: while they were vollunteering at an animal hospital, and you
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  Speaker 1: know something that never was brought up, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of those things where people just they're doing good
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  Speaker 1: things and not looking for publicity. But I just thought
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  Speaker 1: that was a nice highlight of things he was doing
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  Speaker 1: with his family, you know, to your point, still trying
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  Speaker 1: to be involved, but I think it's absolutely a point.
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  Speaker 1: One point I did want to bring up too, was
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  Speaker 1: just what Paul's show I thought was kind of interesting,
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  Speaker 1: was because I watched Brady this year and like, physically
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  Speaker 1: within a play, like he still looked physically like he
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  Speaker 1: can throw the football, like he can move okay, Like
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  Speaker 1: he didn't look physically like Peyton Manning in twenty fifteen, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's just not there anymore. And they were Feedgar and
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  Speaker 1: mas we're kind of bringing up the point of he
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  Speaker 1: kind of looked like he looked in twenty nineteen here,
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  Speaker 1: like you know a little bit like with Paul's talking,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit less invested, not quite as locked in
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  Speaker 1: as he used to be. And that was the only
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  Speaker 1: thing that I I kind of wondered was if he
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  Speaker 1: were going to go to another team, would he kind
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  Speaker 1: of regain that Well, That's what I said, Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: and he knows he would have to, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it also I think just just kind of illustrates
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  Speaker 1: what a great fit Tampa was for him at that
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  Speaker 1: particular point in twenty twenty when they had arians, when
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  Speaker 1: you know, Godwin and Evans were still really on the
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  Speaker 1: upswing and uh, you know, they had had the line
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  Speaker 1: in place and everything was just kind of their for him,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it got harder, as it always does.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm curious about that Darling team report of what
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  Speaker 1: his desire was because I could see, you know, look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really want to do what you said, going
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  Speaker 1: to a new team have to remake the culture. I'm
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  Speaker 1: already here. We've got some pieces, you know, can we
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  Speaker 1: can we restore things? Uh, and they've only got Kyle Trask.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's see your guy is the only one last
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  Speaker 1: minute another team to the list of eating QUARTERBA This morning,
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  Speaker 1: I guess the Wall Street Journal and you're outlet TMZ,
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  Speaker 1: I have, I have shows, you have outlets reported that
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  Speaker 1: he will not be joining Fox this for this super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, he's not ready yet. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that makes sense now as Fox as the
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl, Yeah yeah, yeah. I thought he would be
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  Speaker 1: part of the pre I never thought for a second
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  Speaker 1: he'd be in the booth or annything like that. I
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  Speaker 1: just figured you have like nine hours or pregame show.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have you don't have fifteen, Tom Brady. But
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  Speaker 1: maybe he just doesn't want to do it. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: no interest in doing it. Yeah, so go on vacation
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  Speaker 1: or something. Now. I also saw something that said that
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  Speaker 1: that contract doesn't officially kick in until twenty five. That right,
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  Speaker 1: Someone said it on the radio this morning on one
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  Speaker 1: of my shows. I forget which one. Yeah, maybe he
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  Speaker 1: signed it anticipating to play a longer maybe keep your
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  Speaker 1: shows in line, Paul, come on, it is true. I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe what you hear on my shows. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: it's smart for him. There's probably a clause in there
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  Speaker 1: that or it could be earlier, if mutually agreed upon
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. But he didn't want anything in
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  Speaker 1: writing saying oh it starts in twenty four and then
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  Speaker 1: everyone knows that, you know, Like so they probably smart
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  Speaker 1: about the wording there, just in case somebody leaked that
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  Speaker 1: language out. He's probably got enough money to make up.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you hear between wouldn't it just be just you know,
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  Speaker 1: when his playing days are over, like whatever, Like it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to mean, is it. Well, Fox probably didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be on the hook for you know, like
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  Speaker 1: some people never retire. They stopped playing, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: officially retire, and it's like, so, what would that have
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  Speaker 1: to do with I don't know. Fox wanted to have
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  Speaker 1: some deadline on it, you know, like if you're not
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  Speaker 1: with us by twenty five, the deals off the table.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got an out. Yeah, so maybe that's
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  Speaker 1: why he could be that. People are saying that he
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  Speaker 1: had to be at least because my guess is he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be doing it next year. Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: think so, so maybe that's maybe you have the explanation there. Yeah, so, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll have more time for his kids. I guess he's
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  Speaker 1: just be flying around the games next year on the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully he has more prep than Tony Romo has been doing.
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  Speaker 1: The best part I liked about the thing is when
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  Speaker 1: he sort of poked fund of himself and said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I already made a big deal out of this last year,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not going to do that again. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think for the most part, everybody kind of followed
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  Speaker 1: his lead. I mean, there was a little stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a little over the top stuff on like ESPN in
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  Speaker 1: NFL network, but not a ton I was irritated though,
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  Speaker 1: at NFL. Freddie was irritated, you know because obviously they
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  Speaker 1: were talking about Brady all night, but they had one
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  Speaker 1: package ready and so they'd lead in, you know how
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  Speaker 1: they had to lead him the package. They have b
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: roll b roll. The b roll was very carefully crafted
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  Speaker 1: to make sure it was fifty percent Patriots and fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent Buccaneers, and that pissed me off. Even proper ratio.
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  Speaker 1: It's here for twenty years, twenty years in six super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl wins, nine appearances. That pissed me. He's there for
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  Speaker 1: what three years, and and they get equal billing with
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots. That's BSS, that's BS. That's trying to be
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  Speaker 1: in here. I was even mad that Tristan Worse was
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  Speaker 1: made the right tackle of the all Brady team, Like
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  Speaker 1: get him out of there, I can put Sebastian Vulmer
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  Speaker 1: in there. Yeah absolutely, yeah that really really, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. That really pissed me off. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, the Bucks don't get fifty percent billings. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I hope he does come back and sign a one
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  Speaker 1: year deal, I mean a one day deal. I know
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  Speaker 1: Paul thinks it's silly, but I think you know, for
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  Speaker 1: the fans, I wish you would stop saying things. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's fine. You ever right to say that. I know
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  Speaker 1: I don't, yes, you do, because it kind of is silly.
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  Speaker 1: But for the fans, I think as as you know,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: as titular as it is, or whatever you want to
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: call it, can I articulate it makes a difference? Closure? Okay? Okay?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: So can I just what I mean by I think
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: it's silly. If if he's going to come back and
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: be somewhat part of the organization, I don't mean like
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: they're gonna make him the general manager or you know,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: he's going to have some kind of a title. I
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: don't mean that right. But I mean he's not coming
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: back to sign a one day contract and then we're
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: never going to see him again other than the day
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: that he gets inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I hope not. That to me is useless. I don't
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: need that. If he's coming back and he's going to
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: be a part of the community occasionally, he's going to
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: be around the team. You know, he's going to be,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you know, someone who is um you know, maybe at
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: events once in a while. If if Robert Kraft needs
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: him to be then that that that's great, So you're
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: okay with it as long. I think he's gonna come
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: back and sign a ceremonial one day contract and you
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: won't ever see him again. Really, I have no use
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: for that. I'd be well, i'd be disappointed in that.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: So don't even bother. Like the one day contracting is like,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know when this started, but it's useless. It's useless.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: It's it's ceremonial. It's ceremonial, right, but exactly. But I
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: hope you can do that and have him come back
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: for things that that would be good for the organization. Yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I would just say like, for three years, a lot
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: of Patriots fans, especially those who listen to Paul shows,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: have impounded with the Patriots. Pushed Tom Brady out, he
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: hates Belichick, they didn't get along, and you know, some
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: of this, of course might be true, but we've been
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: beaten over the head with it for three years. So
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I think that the desire to have a makeup, even
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: if it is ceremonial, is very appealing to Patriots fans
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to just have some sense of all right, we're gonna play.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: That's not gonna make up the fact that's not going
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: to be a make up for what people think was
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the problem. No, I know that because I don't think
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: anybody thinks that it's it's Tom Brady versus Robert Kraft.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but now it's bygones. Let bygones be bygones. Right,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: But there are no bygones to be gone with Robert Kraft. Okay,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: like there's no mending that needs to be done now.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Some people blame Robert Kraft on your shows. Yeah, well,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I mean I see it more. It's just I think,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I think you like the son of Sam.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I think you have voices in your head. Oh I've
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: not I've not heard that. You've heard a lot of
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: people blame Robert Craft and not Bill Belichick for that split. Okay,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: so to see what he does there and not Bill Belichick.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I've heard both. I've heard both. You you like equally
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you're you're saying I didn't say that I heard both. Okay,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: So someone said some people So someone called up once
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and said, I blame Kraft, not Bill, not just once,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: not just like I don't know what you're one of
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: your favorite callers, Danny from Court that's one of my
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: favorite callers. Yeah, that's one. That's one of my favorit.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Bab illustrates the point perfectly. Yeah, Danny from Quincy, you're
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: that's one off the top of my hand, stirring you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: who kids, what the callers say, that's I'm just saying that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Some people, that's all I said. Some people, Oh god,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I mean for me, it's just the Patriots, And I mean,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I don't really care who blames what, but it's just
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it's just bringing him back into the fold. And you know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: whether it's it's just the ceremonial thing, I think, just
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to have Tom Brady back in here and have a
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: picture in the trophy room with him and he you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: well he's not Tampa anymore. I think we you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: hopefully it's more than that. You know, there's been a
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: lot of suggestions that have been fired off on social media,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: statue putting the number twelve up in the you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: now I'm interested in, you know, something along the lines
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: of a Larry Bird, what what the Celtics did for
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Larry Bird? I had come stealing all. I agree with that,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I I think I think you can't you
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: can't just do the normal reduction into the Patriots Hall
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of Fame. This has to be an event. Yeah, and
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it's not an event like August or September. No, it's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: not something you shoot hoorn in at halftime of the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Chiefs game, which I see a lot of people on Twitter, right,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you know, pining. It's something happens in like May or June,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: right off season. And yeah, it's a Larry Bird retirement. Yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: it's a separate event. It's Tom Brady Knight at Gillette Stadium,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: all stages on the field, like like Peyton Manning comes back,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: ray Lewis comes back, Ed reads in the house, like
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: all of the you know, Pitt Ben, Roethlisberger's here, Mike
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Tomlin comes out here with his puffy jacket on and
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: he's like pounding his chest. I could never beat this guy.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's the day that it has to be.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You can't do that in twelve minutes at halftime of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: an NFL game. That's a great idea. I think, Yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here for all of that. The statue
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the twelve inside the bowl of the stadium somewhere, whether
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it be on the lighthouse or something like that, or
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: under the banners. Yeah, I'm here for all of that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: The one day contract, Yeah, you do that on your own.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: The only thing I realized I'm not going to be
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: here for is like, well, who gets the bigger statue?
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Or where? Who? Who is traitor Bill's statue? Where is
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it put? Brady? He answered all those questions. Brady he
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: gets like a giant one. And then they just have
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like a little like plaque for Bill, like you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like he's got Like I was thinking, like you do
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a statue of Brady and it's like maybe him like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: standing on the sidelines, you know, looking off, and then
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: when Bill leaves, you add him next to him, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: so now they're both together on the sideline. Yeah. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: like that. Don't like it as much. No, that's fine.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Just doesn't stir the pot. Just it's fun.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun. But like, I don't think you
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: can do too much for Tom Brady Knight. I agree.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I think you also maybe you don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: want to do it like this spring, like this mayo, June.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe next year, you know, twenty four, yep, I want
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to I don't want to wait four years, right, I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: don't want to treat him like every other Hall of Famer,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like he has to wait his turn, and you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: like we're not really going to put him through the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: rigamar role of he's one of the three finalists and
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: we have to let the fans decide, right, we're not
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: doing that, right, No, we're gonna makeup or not. I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: not in charge of that, and I don't make the rules,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: so I well know you carry a lot of sway
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: around here. For if they ask my opinion, I say,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: just don't. Just don't tell everybody that it was Paul's idea,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: because we know that will be summarily dismissed. Put him
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: in next year, and then all of Paul unless everybody
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: likes it, curmudgeons on the committee. Paul's friends will be like, oh,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: now that these guys will never get a chance to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: come in if Brady's gonna slip in there, It's like, okay, no,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that's true. That's another reason why you don't. You don't
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: put him part of this process. Don't take away someone
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: else's chance. No, but I'm not at this time in
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the year that Brady goes in, whether it's next year
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: or the year after whatever. No one else is going
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in at the time, but you're missing this. He's a separate, whole,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: separate entity. He goes in. But you can still you
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: can still do your process with the other three guys
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and they can come at up. And that's no disrespect.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You're a great player. Yeah, if you're out there in
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the plaza with thousands of people caring for you, that's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: still that's still special on his own. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, And just a random June, you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like around mini camp, maybe like when everybody Fred and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I talked about, you have to do it when most
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: people are available to get right. And that's why I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: mentioned the off season. You know, maybe after everybody's done
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: with that mini camp portion of the off season, people
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: start to scatter. Maybe you can get because you don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: need everybody's birthdays in August. You don't need you don't
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: need everybody, but you do need like Peyton Manning and
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: those kinds of people, because I thought the best. Fred
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and I talked about this yesterday for a while in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: his office and we both at the same time said
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the Larry Bird Knight and h And of course I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: don't know if you know, but fred was there. Oh really?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So what did they do for Larry Bird?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I was god? They so they was at the garden.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But the Celtics hired NFL from he has basketball? Are
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you from here? When was that like ninety three something
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like that. I forget what year it was. They had
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a stage set up on so it was the whole garden.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even born yet. It was all full. Then
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: they had seating on the floor right into this middle stage.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: The Celtics hired NFL Entertainment to put it on, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they did a great job. And they had Magic Johnson
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: there and all his teammates. That to me was the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: best part of the whole night. They had a lot
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: of his ex teammates came out, and then they brought
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Magic Johnson with you know, like the Celtics warmups that
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: like the overall kind of war. He comes out, He's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: got his Laker warmups on, but underneath he had a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Celtic shirt because he didn't have anything else. And and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like Bird like rips it opened to show everybody like
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that to me made the whole night. And they had
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: video presentations and and people talking and you know, it
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: was just it was a really really good night of entertainment.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It wasn't boring, you know, like some of these things
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: drag on. This never got boring. Um. And you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I every all the media got like these swag bags
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: full of like Brady's not Brady Bird stuff, um, which
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I still have. Um. It was just h it was.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: It was a real memory. I was at the Herald
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: at the time, and that we you know, we had
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: obviously access to have people go even if you weren't
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: covering it, like they had extra And this girl girl
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I went to beat you with, who was She kind
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: of went through like the intern and you know, the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: lower level that I was on at the time. She's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: from Saint Louis, had like no interest whatsoever in Larry Bird,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and she ended up they asked her if she wanted
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to go, and I was so mad. She wanted to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: go because Bob cost Us was like dmc oh man,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and Bob cost Us is from Saint Louis and that's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: why she wanted to go. And I'm like, you've got
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to be kidding me. I was so much you yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that's just wrong. You didn't put up like a fight
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: about this. I was a lowly peon like what was that? She? Yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: but they asked her what am I gonna say? Why
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: her or not me? Tanya underhubb the under Hills, the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: under Hills tables. Yeah, so that so that of it's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to that level, if not even more. I think it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the opponents to stand out to me. I mean, Paul,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I think nails it would you gotta have paid Manning there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the rivalry. And to get him
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: back in here, and I mean knowing that he will
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: bring it, yeah, well they they probably they probably come
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: as a as a package deal. But I just think
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: of Colts Steelers, um, you know, Ravens, Bernard Pollard coming
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: on down. Can I want to lose Bernard Pollard's invite
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: in the mail? But but about the broncos, you know,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: maybe you get some bronchos like you know, like maybe
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a Champill a von Miller type or at Bailey or
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: someone like that. But you don't have to go wild
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: with the opponents. You need two three, you know, you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: five like really high profile guys to come back and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: have fun. Ye think that's where the greatness is though, right,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, like all the teammates We've heard all these
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: stories about what a great leader he was, what a
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: great guy he was. He would talk to everyone in
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the locker room, he would work relentlessly, first guy and
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But to hear from the actual opponents,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: especially defenders who you know, were like, what was it
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like preparing to go against Tom Brady and you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: just knowing those answers of like you had to play
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: sixty one minutes and everything else. And every teammate that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: played with him gets an invite. Now whether they all
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: come or not, you know, who knows, Yeah, but all
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks who that'd be great, like probably would have
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: been one of the best quarterbacks in the league had
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he not played during the same generation scrappling with that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: bring in like Light and Castle to talk about the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: jokes they played on each other. And you know, NFL
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: films or whoever puts together some really nice video presentation
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: that you know, send shivers up everybody's spine. You know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you just do it up really nice. That's yeah. So
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: when do you um present this to Robert? I'm sure
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: this has already been being talked about. I'm not Fred
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm dead serious. I haven't heard a lot of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: people talk about it the way we have. Well, it
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: just happened yesterday. No, but but I've been hearing a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: lot of people predicting like this will all happen in
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City game next year. What a wasted opportunity
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: at right, rush out people from the outside with no
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: just on the Twitter machine, no one, yeah, no one
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: in here. But I haven't really heard anybody. I've heard
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: people talk about a statue. There's been a lot of
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: statute talk, which I'm wholeheartedly in favor of UM. And
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of talk about the twelve, the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: number twelve being displayed inside the stadium or on the lighthouse. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: but I haven't heard a lot of people say it
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: needs to be something separate. I think Andy Hart and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I on the six Rings podcast yesterday, which I said
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: should be seven rings because we're talking about Brady and
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, not for me, it's you know, and I
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: think this is a good time to put all the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: other numbers back into circulation. I'm with you, Fred, let's
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: do it. I think it's I think it's more of
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a tribute to guys that we never saw play that,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you know, And I mean for me, to see fifty
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: six back out there. It would mean a lot to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: me to to you know, and to remember Andre Tippot
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: rather than you know, I mean, it's not even up
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in the stadium, right, likes the most consistent guy I've
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: ever seen on this kind of a topic. I appreciate
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: that you are, but I love it. I mean, I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: just I think that that honors players much more and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: put them up in the stadium, you know, like you
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: can still note who they were, these great you know Patriots.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: But there's you know, some of these guys that like
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Bob d I mean all respect to him, like you know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it's just that's the one the Hall of Fame, like
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Bob D and you know some of the other guys
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like Bust. I mean, the only two that
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: really like, if you have to other than Brady, would
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: be Hannah and Tippett. Yeah, even Mike Haines. He was
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: half raider, you know, probably more known as a raider.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: The championship, I would have Mike Canes, but that there's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: there's a handful that wouldn't be up there if yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to me, and maybe you do some kind of ceremony
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: for those guys. You can't unretire numbers. I mean, you
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: can put them back in circulation, but they'll still be tied.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, you know. But but if there
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: is one that's not circulation, that's twelve. But do we
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: really need to like take them out of circulate, Like
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: what's what's the Has there been like a clamoring for
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: someone to wear number eighty nine? No, But it's just
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like I just think that Brady, like his numbers should
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: just be That's why his number is displayed in the bowl. Yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you know, do something like that at least, you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: put it with the banners. Wouldn't have any without them.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, and and no one and no
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: one gets their number up there with unless you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: thirty years from now they've risen to that level. Yeah
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, and like we're not starting in
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: new thing. This is a Brady thing period, end of story.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Everybody understands that. Yeah. I like it. I mean, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: think I think all these ideas are great, and I
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: mean I'm sure all the Patriots fans are excited, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, and I've said this before,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: like you know, all the Ticketmaster hub up that's gone
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: on like I've said before, I wish in the off
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: season we could do something where fans could line up
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and get tickets, like you know, just line up old
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: fashioned get hard tickets, like making an event. Um. But
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: in the off season, you know, like have have it
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: like a whole day kind of like that's part, that's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: part of the plan. Maybe you do that, but I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I think a whole Tom Brady day, and as Paul said,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: inside the stadium I think would just be you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: so cool. Maybe maybe even like walk around various plays
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and set up is like a like a concert here.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Well you have all kinds of like on field seating,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you know, and you have all the VIPs like you
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: put up little pictures of like big plays like the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: kennri Bell Tompkins catch. There's like a little like you
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: know photo on a stand of like right here was
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: one of these great plays. Which would you be opposed
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: doing it at some other place besides Gillette Stadium? No,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Like if you did it at Government Center, so you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: could have three hundred thousand people instead of sixty thousand. Oh,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go smaller so it'd
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: be more intimate. I kind of like the idea of
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: it being here. Yeah, it just feels like this is
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: where it happened. Then you have to deal with the city.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: If it's a big venue, then I think it needs
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to be here if you wanted to do it, you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: at the garden, so be a little bit more intimate
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and no easily seen. No way at the guarden, do
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a femily, No way at the garden. Oh I just
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: saw a PFW dynasty. Yeah, I would not do it
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: at m Government Center and no one like that, no
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: one gets to see it. But it's not here than Canton,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and I can't really Oh no, he'll have his own,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but that's the only place that would feel like nothing
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: else would feel right. Yeah, now Canton just just I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: don't think they should make an exception. He should wait
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: until oh yeah that's done. But for this team, yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's a pause point too, Like I'm
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: just thinking back to like when they did the Edelman thing.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It time where it just feels so rushed and it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: like the clock hit zero at halftime, they're rolling out, okay, ESPN,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Brady retires and it's all Bucks logos. That's BS. It's BS. Oh,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I think they're talking about Kyle trast though maybe that's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a what does that have to do? It's bs Come on,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: but it's about the Bucks. He Mike is right there
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: seeking replacement. Yeah, but it had Brady retires and it
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: had all Bucks logos. He spent twenty years here, three there.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: So I guess on it bothers, I guess. I guess
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: this is something that really the people he needs to retire,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: a patriot, taking them back, taking them all back. Well,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. We want to claim him as ours.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: He is not, according to Yes, why do you care
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: what they do? All of a sudden you hate You've
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: watch this for twenty years, you've you've called them the
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: anti Christ. Now you care that they have a logo.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I don't like the anti Christ. You know some nerds
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: putting up a Kiron. He's driving Fred crazy. Yeah, it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: amazing to me. Like the things that you find disrespecting,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I find that's just stupid. Oh sorry, now now we're
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: getting to a high level intellectual it's just conversation, really stupid.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I find it ridiculous. No, I wasn't here. Were you
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: offended by his retirement announcement last year? I wasn't. No,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I wasn't because that was the team he was leaving,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and I felt like, you know, later on, there'll be
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: other things, and I wasn't. I wasn't, and then I wasn't. Yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: it still hasn't. I know, I wasn't, but it didn't
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: bother me because I think in his mind when he
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: did that, he knew he was going to keep playing.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that was all bs Well
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: who was saying yesterday they thought like it felt like
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: he just played this year out of spite because Adam
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Schefter like scooped his first retirement. So he's like he
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: just played one more year because he was mad about that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but now I wasn't. I wasn't that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: offended last year when he did that, and I you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: he's done enough for me. Yeah, I didn't. I wasn't offended.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I think one of your guys last night on the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: radio had a good word to sum up how he
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: was feeling, and I share it. Gratitude. Yeah, I feel
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a great deal of gratitude what he did for this franchise.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: It made your job better as a person working here,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, so I feel gratitude toward I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: always will. I mean, I know, you guys didn't need McCarthy, y,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Matt McCarthy. I want to give him credit. Any faux outrage, yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know he was. He made the whole
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: show about Braid it give him credit. I mean, you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: guys don't really you have the perspective on this. But
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: you know, even just for me, having gone through these
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: last few seasons, and just how special it is now
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: through the prism of what they've had to go through
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the last few years, and just how hard it is
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to consistently too. I mean, you see the other teams
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: in the league, I mean Kansas City, they've been able
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to do it, but you just see how hard it
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: is to consistently compete for championships and be in the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: AFC and conference championship games, and you know, winning the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: division over and over and over again. It's just it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: it's it just gets more special as you get farther
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: in the rearview mirror of what they did and how
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: unprecedented it was. I was listening to you in a
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: big hit on his podcast yesterday. Do you listen to
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: our podcast? Well, it came across and so I clicked
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: on it. I listened to maybe the first I didn't
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: think anybody ever did that first ten or so minutes
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: in both the random jump in, Well he's not doing
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: it for nothing, I hope no, but I mean, never mind.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: But I think both of you agree that there'll never
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: be anyone that reaches his level of achievement in terms
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: of winning Super Bowls. Probably not. Yeah, I think my
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Homes has a chance, but he's got to start now,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: like every year he doesn't win it, Like, I think
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: there's a chance that, like I'm not a big fan of,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: there'll never be another one because we say it all
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the time and then another one comes along. That's like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: no one ever thought they'd be another Michael Jordan, right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And I don't like Lebron James, but there's another Michael Jordan. Yep, Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you know I don't like them. I'll take Jordan over Lebron.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, facts are facts. So every sport,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: every sport. And I think the way that the way
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that sports is headed, I think is a trend of
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you're going to see more and more guys play longer
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: into their careers the way Bady did. Now, maybe they
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: won't do it till forty five. You know, maybe Mahomes
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: won't be able to do that. I think Mahomes can
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: rival all of the numbers when he's done. Oh yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: but I probably would say he's probably not going to
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: win seven for the super Bowls, right, I think he could, Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: but he's probably not going to because Andy Reid's a
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: lot older when this is starting, and he's gonna have
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to do it with different guys and that's gonna be
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: harder to do. Yeah. That, I mean, it's just even.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, some of the best Patriots teams that oh
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: seven didn't win the super Bowl, you know, and then
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to have that second act where he just he went
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: ten years without one. I mean, how many guys are
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: going to go ten years between titles. I mean that
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: alone is just it speaks to the longevity, but also
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: just the ability to rebuild the team and make another
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you know, championship team around him, you know. Is it's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: that's another I think there's a better chance of the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Chiefs being in contention for twenty years than there is
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: for them winning seven titles. Yeah. One thing they were
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: doing on the radio was picking Brady's best games ever,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and one that kind of got left off that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I know they lost the Super Bowl, but that Philly
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the Eagles game, I mean, how can you not put
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that up there at least for him didn't have like
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: six hundred yards or something. Yeah, it was over five hundred,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Like for him, that was one of his
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: best games ever. And had they won it, it definitely
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: would have been up there, you know. But they didn't
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: win it, so he gets sacked at the end and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: loses the ball and that that tainted the whole thing.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: But that was an amazing performance. Yeah, that's a good
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that's a good one. And there's so it's so hard
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to think because there were so many games where he
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: just like I think of oh nine in Tennessee where
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: it was just lights out and they blew doors off.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You know, does that count as one of his best
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: games or is it a game like one of the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls where maybe he didn't play great, but when
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it came down to the end, he was absolutely dead.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: On to the Carolina one where they won. You know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: he throw a pick in the end zone in that game,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: but like he was lights out when it had to be.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I would put you a game against the Eagles ahead
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: of like that Tennessee game. Yeah, when the other team
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: is capitulating, like especially back and forth. Right, Yeah, it's
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Haymaker after Hayemaker and they're just trading punches. And you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: know he was great. That was like burden m Dominique
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Dominique Wilkins in that game. Right. Uh, maybe Seattle, the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Seattle Super Bowl. Seattle super Bowl is amazing. Quarter is amazing,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: eight for eight. I think on the game winning drive
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: something that McCarthy had that as his number one. He said,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that was his Mona Lisa, that was his you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: big Matt McCarthy for I'm gonna let him know. It
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: was just so he's a nice kid top of mind,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like he said, you know they had lost
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: two super Bowls in a row. If you lose that one,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: it's three in a row that you've lost. You had
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to come back from ten. Yeah. Um. And he said
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that was in his mind, his best game. The eighteen
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: AFC Championship. Casey, I mean you guys, will you guys,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: oh that one that was a great one too, which was,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: again to Paul's point, a game paymaker. You had to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: have had to have had to have it. It's not
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the other team playing like craps, so you found a
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: way to win. It's like both teams just trade and blows.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Now again, I the whole game is out of my memory.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: But coming back from twenty four against Denver that night,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I have no recompenction of what Brady did in that game,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: but I imagine he had a good game that one.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I mean, where do you how do you?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you categorize Super Bowl fifty one,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you know, with with it plays terrible, which you know,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Atlanta twenty eight to three, right, but then but then
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: lights out had to have it yea at the end.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just it's through a pick. It's kind
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: of every kind of game you can imagine. There's you know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: probably I game where you played terrible the whole game
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: until the last driving they won somehow, like you know
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Cleveland twenty thirteam where somehow they pulled out with like
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: an onside kick, and you know, I mean just there's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: just so many games, I know, so many good games
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and moments throws. Uh, but you know, to pick one
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: that's the greatest, it's hard, Yeah, touchdown, greatest touchdown paved
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I think he picked the Moss one the record breaking
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Moss one was one of his favorites. That was great.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: You know, it was like you know that again they
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: were going toe to toe with the Giants. It was
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a high scoring game. Uh and you know on all
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: four networks. Yeah, and he Moss just beats this guy
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: down the sideline. Brady hits him perfectly, and it's a
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: records for both guys. It was a record setting. You're
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: talking about like the caliber of pass sure, like no,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I mean physically you know that's that's like because way
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Fred just described that Giants one to Moss like it
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: was an amazingly important touchdown for all the reasons. Fred
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: just said, um, but if we're just talking about like
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: from a skill perspective, you know, from that point of view,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: there's a couple that like the one fell I think, Yeah,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the one against Baltimore to Fell is as perfect your
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: throwers you'll ever see. Or what's the one I was
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: going to say, what's the one to get that predictable?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Who did they hit again? It's the Saints here? Yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: well that's another one. Yeah, which when they were asking Brady,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I thought it they asked him about these throws and
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: he was like that one was more bad coverage. I
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: thought it was interesting, like he loved the the Moss one.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: He talked about the Moss one was like a pitch
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and catch. He was wide open. Yeah, but but that
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: one was I know. But again, like you know, if
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: he did a Brady thing, it'd be cool to have
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like little places around the field where this is, where
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: is where this happened Monday night at Denver. I want
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to say, oh, three, the Lonnie Paxton safety game. Oh yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that touchdown to Givens with like twenty seconds left. Yep, ridiculous. Yep.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: What about a worst game? I mean we're just we're
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: having fun here, but I mean the worst game always
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: had a few I mean thirty one nothing against the Bills.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: He's bad in that game. Yeah, he was really some
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: of the starts in the Super Bowl, like Super Bowl
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: like forty six where he took like the safety and
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: there were just a couple of times you're like, why
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: why can't we get off to a good start, And
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: well even even that fifteen I think it was fifteen
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: against Denver where you know, Gronk almost well the game. Yeah,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Brady was having a terrible I mean it was small
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: killed it wasn't all his fault, but he was getting killed.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: He was having a terrible game. He had really no
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: one to throw to. You know, Denver was teeing off
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: on him. It was just a frustrating game. I mean
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: maybe oh nine against the Ravens, but I just I
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: can't really think of a game where he didn't give
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: you a chance to win, where you know, like like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: no matter what the game was, he kind of made
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: a push. Even in that Ravens game, Like, I mean
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they started to you know what you mentioned the Kansas
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: City game, right, yeah, the team they're not good anymore.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: H Yeah, I mean he had a terrible game. I mean, yeah,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: one when I'm thinking of the big game, like I'm
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: he had some three three pick games in the playoffs
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that just completely took away any chance they had. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: mean the Denver won an oh five the champ Bailey
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: unsaids a terrible play by by Tom that picked by champion.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: H he was off though. Um but I know this
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: is why funny to talk about because you're like good games,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: You're like this one, this one, this one, like that game,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Well even the greatest, you know, can't be perfect. It
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: just show it's tough, but the fact that he was
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: so good for so many times, that's what separates him.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: He's just squick it good, yeah good, you know, squick
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: handsome too. Yeah boy, Yeah, that's the thing. It's like,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I think Mina Kimes made this point. But just to
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: play as long as he did and have no one
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: have any like bad interpersonal things to say about you.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I mean he's uh, he's done a good job. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: mean there's probably some people again that's one of those
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: that good luck if you want to say something bad
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: about like we have to be an idiot to publicly
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: say something bad against Brady. But he you know, he
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: did do a good job managing his his image and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: staying staying out of trouble even when it came to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: the contracts. You know, was always done behind closed doors.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: It never became a public tuggle war like you know
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: some of these players, you know, holding out and all
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Uh, some would argue maybe he should have,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: but he never did. And um, yeah, I mean so
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: he was he was always it was always positive with him.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: What do you think he sets up shop now? Like,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, he seems like he's California and New York,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Boston Florida. I mean, it's all over the place. I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be. He's gonna spend most of the
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: time where his kids are. Yeah, East Coast. Yeah, I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: restarted construction on their Miami mansion. I thought, Miami there,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: what do you mean from the bushes in Florida. Um,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: that big celebrity island in Miami where he was built.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Him and Gizelle were building the house. They stopped construction temporarily.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's to do more of the
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: divorce or the FTX crash or whatever it was, but um,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: construction has resumed. Okay, obviously whose house is it going
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to be? That's the question, you think. So well, she
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: bought a house across the street apparently, but I heard
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: it was like a really modest house. It wasn't It
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: was like oddly and her sister's name. So people think
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like a publicity stunt to buy
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to buy the house, but I don't know. Yeah, he
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: was looking for schools for his kids in Miami last
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: last week, the week before. Yeah, he was video a
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: week of that. So I saw that fun time down there. Yeah,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it's you know, people get divorced, but when you're both
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: celebrities like that. It's I know, I gotta admit, just
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: her message, it just made me sad. I don't I mean,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I don't really care for him in this relationship, but
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: just like you know, to be married to somebody and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, they're just like giving you
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: like this very basic congratulations and best of luck in
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the future and your Instagram. I don't know, you know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: whatever it is you choose to do. Yeah, I have
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: no idea what it is, because you tell me anything
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of luck in your future endeavors is like, oh, that's
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a bummer. I mean they used to be like you
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: know that. Don't worry their publicists and social mediage. All right,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I can smell the buffalo sauce. So it's time to
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  Speaker 1: smells good. He does. Yeah, get the buffalo. Those aren't
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  Speaker 1: wings though, now, just tenders. That's that's in my world.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't have a bone in it, they're not wings.
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  Speaker 1: They're tenders or stingers or whatever you want to call them.
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  Speaker 1: But when you know it's stuff in your fat face
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  Speaker 1: don't really want to go with the wings and get
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  Speaker 1: some fancy ones. I mean I get a rub like crispy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which originally was just like a wings restaurant in Amherst.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's a couple of them, they combined with Amorous brewing.
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  Speaker 1: But they're everywhere, Like they're in Pennsylvania, they're in Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: Is it like wings Over at the location name or
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  Speaker 1: just wings Over? Yeah? So like there's a wings Over, Boston,
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  Speaker 1: what are they comparable to? Its Wild Wings? Buffalo wild? Better? Better? Better?
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  Speaker 1: Um Like? Especially their bonus ones are gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: little bigger. They have the best bonus wings. Boning are good,
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  Speaker 1: very good, but their bonus wings are a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: like the honey barbecue. That's my I like that flavor.
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  Speaker 1: That's I'm a garlic parmesan girl. Really hot buffalo barbecue
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  Speaker 1: on everything, but exactly. And I was trying to explain
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: to late. I'm like, you know they make buffalo. You
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  Speaker 1: just tossed the in that stuff. No, that's too spicy.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, trust me. So last night I got him
• 59:03
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• 59:07
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  Speaker 1: we're crossing boundaries. I don't know if I'll get him
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: to try the bone ones though that's ten year old.
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  Speaker 1: won't even sub it for like a Greek yogurt. Hell no,
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• 1:03:11
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  Speaker 1: after that, Yeah, I think I think thirty six because
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: to me, it's either thirty six or whatever. The Seattle
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: one was. What's the number of the Seattle one, forty
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: ninety nine. Those would be my two options. Yeah, because
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: like you know, McCarthy was saying last night, they had
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: lost two in a row. They just signed Garoppolo, you know,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people even at that time we're saying, well,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: you know it was he getting up there in age
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: and then he goes and wins that one and then
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: two things. Yeah, that I would say thirty six. Like
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: if you look at the you know, the way it
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: was sort of trending, they didn't score a lot of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: points in thirty six, that that was the one out
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: of all of them that you could say. He was
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: a caretaker, you know, he was clutch when he had
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to be, and they wouldn't have won it if just
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: some regular dude was out playing quarterback because he had
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: to be really clutch. He gets knocked out of the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: AFC Championship game in the first half, didn't finish it,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: and then really didn't do a whole lot in the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He only threw for one hundred and twenty
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: yards in the Super Bowl, as it was one touchdown.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: But that that drive at the end of the game,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: to me, showed up solidified it. And that, you know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody, even Bledzo honks like me, didn't
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: have any reservations whatsoever going forward. So that one and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: the Seattle one to me is because I think the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: whole ten year thing that Mike talked about before the break,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the ten year gap between success and then
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: when you look at the first three A lot of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: people say, I think incorrectly, but a lot of people
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: say the first three were about defense in Belichick, the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: last three were about Brady. I don't necessarily buy that
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: because I think GO three and oh four were a
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: lot to do with Brady, But there would have been
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: an argument to be made that, like, he can't win
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: it when he's the focal point, you know, like when
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: he was setting all the records in OH seven they
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: fell short, Yeah, you know, when he had when he
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: had no defense and eleven they fell short, you know,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they get to the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl against Seattle, one of the more legendary defenses
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: you know, in recent times, even though it was decimated
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: at the time by injuries. He just went up and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: down the field twice in the fourth quarter and came
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: from behind. I think that one was that one cemented
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the legacy the first. I would have to say, the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: first one is the most important to think about. How
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: it would have been if they had lost three Super
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Bowls in a row. Yeah, you know now there, but
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: like I said, all in the same kind of pattern,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: all offense, not as much defense. Yeah, you can't win
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: that way, right, You're just like Peyton Manning. You can't
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: do it all your You can be great like Peyton Manning,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: but you can't win it all on your own. Yea.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: For me, I feel like for similar reasons, it was
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the Atlanta one because I feel like watching that comeback,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: it just became to a point where I'm like, I'm
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: no longer going to argue with anyone that Tom Brady's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: not the greatest super Bowl of all time based on
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: what I just watched. It's now his hand. But I
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: think it took that comeback for a lot of people
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: to come to grips with that, Jack and and Arbor
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: agrees with me that the ESPN coverage is BSU good job.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Todd writes in I'm with Paul. No need for one
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: day contract for Brady and then they can say he
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: retired as a Patriot. It's useless. If they wanted this,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: they should have talked to him two days ago and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: had him signed on January thirty first, and then retire
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: in February first, as he did. Well, I don't know,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the timing. Um and Florio wrote
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: something there, even with these stupid you know, one day contracts,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: there is something you have to take an account the
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: league year and the actual retirement from the league and
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. And you know his status with the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: bucks and money. You know it shouldn't you know, it
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: should be like completely phony. Yeah, shouldn't happen actually because
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: well because he's not technically a free asient until March. Right.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Um Joey says, uh am, I watching Patriots unfiltered or
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: the Golden Girls arguing just kidding, you guys are the best. Hey,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Earlier we were us being old arguing
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I'm a big Golden Girls man. Oh I'm here for it.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Um Ron and Cambridge says, m Brady never wanted to
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: be Tampa, Tom. He wanted to stay in the Patriots,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: and some of their fans, including you, thought they'd all
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: be all good without him. There are a segment of
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: fans will always hold it against them for that. He
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: is the type of athlete that you write it out
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: with no matter what things have stunk since he left,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I think I think you're
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: wenting Brady off the hook a little bit for leaving.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: If he really wanted to stay, would have stayed. I
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: think if they paid him he would have. I agree, Yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: I think both both sides were Neil from New Brunswick.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady, thank you. You gave us all so many memories.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I'd love the one day contract, but if it never happens,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: it doesn't change the way I feel about you. Now,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: go enjoy your life. You've given Patriots Nation in Tampa enough.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Has anyone ever noticed that Mike is always dipping his
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: toe in the draft. I just find it so funny.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like the day before the draft shows who'll
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: be ankle deep. This is not meant as a criticism,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: just another funny peu quirk that makes me laugh every time.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I know, And then he talks about the draft. I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: don't care about that right right now, Neil, we'll get
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: into the draft. It's funny as I haven't I like it.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't follow college football until this
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: all starts. And oh, we've got Karen Greegi and regarding
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Giraffe Mayo, I'm hearing from a source we should pump
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: the brakes on him having a new title going forward,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: a pay raise for sure, and his overall role could change,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: but there might not be a different title. That's Karen
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Greigian from the Bust and Flu, the old bait and Switch.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: So the assistant line back whatever his title was before
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: and sitting in on offensive coordinator and his title isn't
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: changing or his role isn't changing. Yeah, I mean, come on,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: it's a good point, Fred, what do we And we're
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: not going to hear about money, so I mean, in theory,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's making more money, right, but you'll never
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: get an actual number on any of that. So I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: mean fall and and some purposes, you intensive purposes. I mean,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: how are you going to know anything's different this year
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: with him? Unless if he's still the inside linebackers code.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: I hope we're past that, the whole subterfuge and all that, right, Yeah,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Mike in Lunenberg, there is no doubt in my mind
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: that the Crafts want Brady Knight to be during the season.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: This year, there are nine home regular season games in
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: one preseason game, and as we know, they're giving up
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: one home game for the Germany game, so the season
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: ticket member package is now only nine games. I could
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: easily see them issuing a bonus ticket for Tom Brady
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Knight in the stadium to keep the season ticket member
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: pricing in line with where it should be despite there
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: being one less game to charge us for now. Whether
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: the timing works for us out for this, who knows,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: But my mind always goes to the business money aspect.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Can't blame me for doing that. Certainly the owners do.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: But even if they do this not during the season,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you could still say, if you're season ticket member, you
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: get first DIBs to good idea, especially with the Germany game. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: but it's I think that's a non factor. It's a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: fair point. It's a fair point, it's it's accurate. What
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: he said is true. I just don't think it's part
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: of the thought process. Yeah. Is that like an issue though,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: like losing a game to go to Germany for the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: season ticket holders? Is that I mean, is that a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: thing they're not frailed about it? Yeah, based on I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: read some of the mentions when we made the German
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: mini announcement and a very small percentage, We're like, great,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm a season ticket holder, and well ten percent discount,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: and say don't you you pay per game? Like that's
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: your season tickets? You pay? Yeah? Right, Yeah, so you're
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: not that's not a game, like you're not paying for it? Yeah,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I don't know. I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: think people will just complain about anything they have a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: chance to complain about. Well, I mean, who am I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: to argue with that. Tim Ritson, being a lifelong Patrios
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: fan with one of my earliest memories opening up the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: original Schaeffer Stadium, my perspective is as long as we
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: have a great ceremony with a statue with its own
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: event in retirement of number twelve will be great. I
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: don't see the need for Tom Brady to be part
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: of the organization going forward. I don't even care if
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: he signs a one day contract, I hope that it
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: can be done around the opening of the new lighthouse.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: And yes have a lot of people throughout his career
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: to speak and share memories. I absolutely love the Catch
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: twenty two show with Evan and Alex Where Does That Have?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: It has become my second favorite podcast, only behind the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: World's original podcast ps Adam Jones is another sports personality
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: that is out on Mac Jones. Well, we know that
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: he's out on everybody and he went from strongly in
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: on Mac Jones to out on Mac Jones. What did that?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Just that? L from Wisconsin, I'm curious as to your
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: thoughts about something. Brady is the greatest of all time.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: To me, the second best during his tenure was Peyton Manning.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Similarly to Bill and Andy Reid, who do you think
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: has the bigger gap to Bill and Andy? Read who
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: has the bigger gap? So is there a bigger gap
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: between Brady and Manning or Bill and Read? My opinion,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Brady is significantly better than Peyton, which is someone who
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: watched a lot of old Colts game isn't sane to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: think about? Meanwhile, I think Bill sits slightly below below
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Read Huh, this is really territory I could care less about.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: It's hard enough trying to do Brady and Belichick. Now
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I gonna do Brady and Belichick vers Reading and Mahones.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Mahomes. I think Manning and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Brady is really close. I think Brady and Manning is
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: really close. I mean, I think Peyton Manning was supremely talented,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: and injuries did him in what would have looked like
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: if Peyton Manning hadn't gotten hurt, might be him closer.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that big of a gap.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to say with Bill because
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of like what comes from him is like
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: what he did, you know, is a coordinator and his
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: you know, like he's just got I don't know, more
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: kind of touch points to point two of like, well
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: he did this, And I mean Andy Reid has just
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: been an excellent head coach with two different franchises and
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: you know, has his team in contention pretty much every year.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: I can't don't. I don't know what to say about
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: what the gap is between them, but I think Bill
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: just has a is there a decent coach who wouldn't
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: be in contention every year with either Mahomes or Brady.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: How about Alex Smith Donovan Nab? I'm not talking, I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: said with those two, Like, no, I think you'd have
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: to be a really really bad guys to not contend
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: with Brady or Mahomes. Right, but Andy Reid contended with
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: really bad to mediocre quarterbacks. Yeah, like Alex Smith is mediocre.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: McNabb is bad. Yeah, Altack gout in the playoffs with
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Testaverdi much better than Donovan Nabb really really terrible? Come on,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Paul terrible. I mean I remember him pukin at the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: end of the Super Bowl. But I felt like what
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: happened to donovanc nab when he no longer had Andy Reid?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, exactly. He's older than a Yami
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: writes in in Andy for Brady, they have some local
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: room scenes with multiple Patriots players. Do you know if
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: those scenes were shot at Gilette Stadium? You got to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: spring chicken? Tom Brady went on to win a Super
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Bowl without Pellichick. But were you guys? McNab was old
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: when he left Andy Reid. Not everybody ages like Brady.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: You can't compare him to other people. Were you guys
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: aware the movie in quarterback eighties for Brady was being made. Uh, yeah,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: well we were aware of that. Oh like in the stadium. No,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I knew about the movie just the Houston movie was
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: shooting here, but not that. I didn't know that they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: were making this movie until it was out. Oh, no, Brady,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: they talked about it. Pictures, superf It's Brady's company. They
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: were promoting it for a long time. I don't remember,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember them being here. Show think they
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: shot it in Hollywood. I think it's probably no. Probably
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: they're going to the super Bowl. They're not. They're not
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: coming here. They're going They're going to the Atlantic Game.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Well did you see it, Alex. It hasn't already been shown.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I have not seen the famous people like you. I've
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: been really holding out for a good new movie. You
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: can see the movies, and that ain't it. I just
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: don't get who the audience is for that movie. Like
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: what it's just a strange kind of mind between old
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: people and sports fans, Like that's your kind of cross
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: section of who you're trying to get football fans and
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: old people at the middle, middle aged and older women.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's the I mean, knowing how hard it
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: is to get anything made in LA Like I just
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: I mean it's Tom Brady and the cast, and I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: don't make it. There's no I don't think him like,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Oh really, do you think sports writers would come and
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: once does for any little thing? They can tweet out
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: that Brady doesn't it? Oh? Not because they want to
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: see it? Okay, it's like as work as work research. Yeah, okay, Cody,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: are you going to see it? Fred? No, if if
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: it's on TV someday I might. They're going for pleasure,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: you know, But you think like a sports writer would
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: want to see that movie. Absolutely. We're talking about the
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: same people that would rub lotion on players backs. Another
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: great point. This is why I at all time, you know,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't argue. I can't either. Can I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: make a quick point though? You know, Paul, thinking back
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: at your any read thing though, like, I mean, he's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: an offensive coach though, you know, so is it like
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: is it fair to say, oh, he's such a better
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: coach because he'd better. I didn't say he's a better coach.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Well you said Andy Reid had like how to I mean,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: you're implying that he was No, don't know. I'm just saying,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: but I think Belichick is a great coach too. But
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: but but I'm saying if you're talking about he was
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: an offensive coach, and you're saying, well, Bill can't coach
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, but he's not. I mean, technically he's not.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't say Bill can't coach anything. First, But the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: second thing is I was responding to Fred claiming that
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: anybody could win with Patrick Mullmes, which I would agree with.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: If you're a reasonably good coach, anybody would win. I
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: don't think that's Andy Reid's resume, but any Reid's resume
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: is winning with whatever he has. Right. But but I mean,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: he's an offensive coach, so we're talking about quarterbacks. But no,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: you'relding up his offense. Well, I mean a lot of it, right,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I think he's also smart enough to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: know Brian Dawkins was pretty good. Exactly, I'm gonna I'm
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: smart enough to know I'm gonna get Jimmy Johnson to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: coach my defense. I'm gonna get Steve Spagnolo to coach
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: my defense. That's being smart. That's not saying he's not
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: in my inner sanctum. I don't want him, Like that's
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: part of the struggles right now without Brady, maybe it
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be as big of a struggle if they had
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: an offensive coordin. Maybe it'll be better this year. So
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien back and you have an actual offensive coordinator.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: But it's right, but as it's safe to say that
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Bill Belichick without a generational quarterback, are
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: somewhat more reliant on the other side of the bat.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Like why didn't in Kansas City win more? When when
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: they had those quarters? Like why didn't they win? Why
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: didn't they go to a super Bowl? Because with who?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: With Alex Smith? Or because he wasn't good enough. He's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: not a good he's not that good. They met they
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: maxim I mean, they were going twelve and four with
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Alex Smith and they were going in the playoffs and
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: they were winning some playoff games, but they weren't a
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: super Bowl team with Alex Smith at the helm. But
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: how's their defense? Yeah, so, and the Patriots offense has
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: been Sorry, I just I just says it wasn't last year.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: I see similarities between the two coaches when you know,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: like Andy Reids a quarter he's an offensive coach. He's
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: had better okay perform. So I like the way you
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: just said that. Do you think Patriots fans think this
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: is this compared. I'm not going to get into like
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the Patriot fans think. I just I'm saying what I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: certainly not want. But nice call, friend, that was a
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: great call. I mean, you don't like Brady, I mean,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: what are we doing? But I'm just trying to draw
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: some similarities of you know, all things being equal, that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: when Bill had teams, that defense was a little bit better,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: and Andy Reid had teams, the offense was I think
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: most people and I would I would, and I would
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: co sign. I would co sign that Belichick is But
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: but there are there is a growing a ground swell
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: about Andy Reid, right but not here. If you if
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you were not here here, not here. Andy Reid is
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: a buffoon who can't manage the clock. Not here. That's
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: that's Andy Reid's reputation. But nationally people are saying, but
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: no one thinks he's better than Belichick. Tony Roman, Well,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: you just but I think part of it two is
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: like it's an offensive league. Now you can't play defense anymore,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, Like, it's just it's
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: it's highlighted more than Andy Reads a great offensive coach,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: and deservedly so. As the as the league moved more
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: towards offense, it kind of highlights him a little bit.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: It highlights him, you know. It's it's harder for Bill
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: probably to build a defense and and play at that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: level that he's you know, famous for when it was
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: in like oh, three oh four and those defenses. He
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: went to four conference chips in a row, killing everybody,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: And it's an offensive coach, and he went to four
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: conference championships in a row as an offensive coach in
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: a defensive era, Like, I don't know, just what are
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: you talking about, Andy Reid? And he went to four
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: conference championships in a row in an offense in a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: defensive era. Well, like, well, I'm not with a like
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: a pretty he made a guy look a lot better
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: than he was, and he fell apart as he left
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: me and Andy Reid, Well shouldn't he? I mean, if that,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: if he's an offensive coach, that's what he should do.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: So why was like the twenty eleven defense so bad? Then?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: If it's just about having a defensive minded coach or
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: an offensive minded coach. He's good. He's good, like I think.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Bill is the better coach. I
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: think he has more of a grasp on the head
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: coaching duties. I think he's in the game. I think
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: his game operation over the twenty plus years that I've
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: watched is almost always great. That's why I think he's
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: better than Andy Reid. But I think Andy Reid is
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: criminally underrated around here. And I think comments like who
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't win with Patrick Mahomes is an example of criminally
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: underrating Andy Reid. And I will say that Andy Reid's
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: State farm commercial is better than Bill Belichick's subject commercial.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: I will give him that. I like when he goes
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the bottom of this, like they
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: gave him a cheeseburger for Christmas. Yeah, I think Bill
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: is better, and I would not. I'm not trying to
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: say that to Pander. I'm not trying to just say
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: oh no, no, no no. I'm giving you all the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: reasons why I think Andy Reid is great, but Bill's Like,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I think Bill is the better coach, but I think
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid is a great coach. I think they're both
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: great coaches. I just think that there's a real difference
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: though that doesn't really get high, like they just get
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: compared as coaches, and you know, they have their specialties,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I just I think that that's something I highlight.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not trying to make this
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: into some long thing about you know, Andy Reid not
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: being anywhere close to the Belichick. Oh it's good, but
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: it's good to be you know, it's good discussions. It's
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing. I would have loved to seeing
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid coach Mac Jones. What does that look like?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I didn't mean to. I didn't
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: mean to intrude on the you know, should should Tom
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Brady sign a one day contract? Talk? You know that's
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: lighting up? You know webs Cody and Nova Scotia just
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: wanted to write to say I couldn't agree more with
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Fred's opinion and how irritated I get by Brady contract
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: shown in bucks Jo. Same thing as how all of
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: a sudden Madden I'm manning is only shown in a
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: broncos Where have you guys have been for three years?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Like I'm the only one who hated Brady in Tampa Bay.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: They will get bothered watching them, and all of a
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: sudden people are losing their minds. This is ESPN hatred,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: not Brady. You know, to some extent, I feel it's
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: an intentional slight to Patriot. But you know what ESPN.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: You know, like when he said they showed you know,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Manning and the Bronco a lot of its laziness because
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: the more recent footage that they have at their fingertips
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: is where he just playing. And now I'm gonna go
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: back to another thing, which I would get all mad
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: whenever Antonio Brown thing was going on, and all they
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: would show was him as a Patriot, and it was like,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: he's like a Steeler and probably be like, well he's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: just recently played for the Beach, right, but not anymore.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Well that was, you know, back right once he played
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: for Every time, it's him throwing his uniform off and
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: walking around with no shirt on, right, tied it all together.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Oh man, what a trip that was? Oh talk about
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's been like four lives. We were we
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: were upstairs in the bullpen. It was like a Friday,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: remember Thursday. Was sitting around for like an hour just
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: talking and then all of a sudden they had to
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: release him. You're like, what just happened? Happened was like
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: a Siah relief. But there have been I don't know,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: maybe two three times since creing here coming down to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: do this show being like, oh God, I don't know
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. How we're going to come up
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: with something nice to say about that guy? Five past
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: five hundred is the ace ticket outline. Let's get to
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: the phones. Williams and Philham, what's up? Oh? He hung
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: up out? How about David and Vegas? What's up David? Hey? Hey,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: did you hear me? Yes? Oh? Okay, So I had
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: a quick question for you now that this season is over. Um,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: one of the most exciting people on the team for
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: me was little Jordan Humphrey, and he got cut in November.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: And I don't really understand why a guy who was
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: so excited in the preseason, who did so well with
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy, got cut. But here I see futures contract
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: with Bill Murray and you know, Trey Nixon and people
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: who don't think to make an impact at all? Yeah,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: what do you think of Tom Brady? Little Little Jordan
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Humphrey had two catches all season. Yeah, I think that
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: that was a case where people were hyping that up
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: as something and I'm gonna guess that he didn't have
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: any from Bailey's appy. I mean he was big and slow,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: you know, like and I'm like, how many big slow
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: receivers need if he if he had maybe some speed,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: that would have been one thing. But what made you
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: excited about him? David? Just curious, didn't you know? I
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: saw him when he came out to Las Vegas for
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: the preseason, and it seems like every time they threw
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: a ball his but he cut it. He did have
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: a good think against it, you know, to actually catch something. Yeah,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: and he also was six four and twenty five. It
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: seemed like he could do everything. And when time Montgomery
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: went down, it seemed like here was the guy to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: step in him as the third tight end. And yeah,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I think he got to take it here. Yeah, what
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: he did as a whole though, not like this should
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: be a disclaimer for preseason games. The results in preseason
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: games do not, you know, necessarily reflect future earnings. You know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Plus they were in eleven personal thanks David Year. I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: mean heavy just three receiver sets and tight ends, who's
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: who are you pulling to get him on the field.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: And and I'm saying that is you know, somebody who's
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: not pounding, you know everything. For how great the receivers were.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: We listen in a season like last year, I can
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: understand Patriots fans wondering why any guy didn't do more right?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: You know? How? How does he? How is he not
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: in there? Right? Um? Andrew's in LA? What's up? Andrew? Hey, guys,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: we got to talk more about little Jordan. Hum. We
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: we're actually signing little Jordan a one year, one day
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: contract so we can bring him back, okay? And can
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: we retire his number? Yeah? Number one three. It's just
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be a little welcome. We just have a little
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: up there, no number. All right. Well, I was in
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: a I was in a work meeting, so I didn't
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: get to hear. Are you guys? Is there plans to
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: do like a braiding night or what? There are no plans? Yeah,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: we kind of just planned it out here. Paul laid
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: it out. I'm here for you. Just go about three
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: minutes into the show. Yea that there are no plans
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: at all? Um? You know I'm imagining that we won't
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: know of anything happening for months. Yeah, I'm the guy
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: that when Bet says we should do this, I never
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: thought about it. And you guys obviously can do with
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: this what you want because you guys are the big shots.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: But I was just thinking about how many great moments
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: there were at Gillette and how they happened all over
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: the field with Brady, and if there was like a
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: do you guys remember like in Sandlot when like they
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: like fade away from the kids and then they're kind
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: of like into the older person and then they do
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: it in like a lot of different movies about sports
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: and everything. But I thought it'd be so cool if
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: you had a camera and you were focusing in on
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: like one area of the field and then you could
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: kind of like dissolve into a play happening right there,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: like the whole crowd reaction going on with that, and
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: just like that night showing the best plays and you
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: guys could pick what what plays you wanted to do,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: but like the Ken Burl Tompkins throw, how awesome that
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: was and just like dissolving into that place. Yeah, I
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: think that's I think that's a great idea. And like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, when they did the Larry bird Night.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: The Celtics hired NFL Entertainment to produce it, and I
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots would do well. Like not that our
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: content team isn't good, but I think we should look
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: to NFL Film, We should look to maybe Hollywood to
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: really you know, produce the hell out of this thing
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: and ideas like that. That type of editing and concept.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I think you need to do that because you want
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: people's hair to stand on its edge. Yeah, you know
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: when they're watching this stuff. Did you did your team
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: do the video that got released when Brady retired the
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: announcement came out the four minute Yeah we did that. Yeah,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: that was awesome guys. Oh thank you John. Yep, that
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: really encapsulated like my life growing up because I too
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: think I mean, I was Devin in there something when
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: they won the first Super Bowl. So my entire life
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: has just seen you like Brady and like this franchise.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: So that really encapsulated like my entire bandom as as
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. So that was really awesome to see.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate it. All right, thanks for the call Andrew,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: Andrew calling out of la with la ideas well. That
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: was a really good kind of blend of it, and
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: then I'm want to build off of that is there?
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe could you do it in like a VR thing,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: you know, where like you go down and you're actually
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: or like at least like augmented reality where it's like
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: a Snapchat fielder highlighting that part of ideas. And well,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: maybe like you know, Andrew's going to sit in on
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: our next content. Maybe you know you really want to
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: think big and meta. You know, the company they sponsor
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: the thing and everybody that comes in gets a quest
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: and you can do something like that. Would that be
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: awesome or what? Amazing? M? Paul writes in So just
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: pretend for a minute that Brady announced his retirement yesterday
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: having never left the Patriots, how do you imagine the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: last three years would have gone? Obviously no Cam Newton,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: but do they still draft Mac Jones? What would their
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: records have been? And is there a playoff run there? Okay,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: so twelve and four to twelve and four and twelve, Yeah,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of twelve and four, thirteen, four and thirty.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there, because if he had
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: decided to stay for three more years, then something would
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: have happened to make up stay. So they gave him
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: the money or they got him the weapons or whatever.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: So it's hard to say, but yeah, they'd be a
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: hell of a lot better than they were, There's no doubt. Yeah,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just going off of what they had with him
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Yeah, but if there was no change to
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: contract or money or he would okay, but you have
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: to give him. You would have had to have given
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: him a contract to stay, right, because he wasn't. He
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: didn't have one, right, so obviously there would have been
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: a change in the contract. It would have gone from
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: nothing to something for a lot of money. Yeah, whatever,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: But everything else is the same. Why I'm just saying,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not assuming that they got better, but I'm just
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: saying they had the same players in him playing quarter
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Why are you assuming that? Because I can't assume that
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: they got better, but I'm assuming that if you're going
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: to pay this guy to be your quarterback, you know
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: it's a limited number of years left. We gotta be
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: all in, we gotta like Okay, well then then I'm
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: gonna up my numbers. Then fourteen wins, okay, Yeah, I mean,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: if they if they went out and got got loaded
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball for him than they
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: could have won more super Bowls. Yeah, that's unrealistic. Why
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: why didn't they do it? I don't know, but like
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: but that we spent two hundred something, but was kind
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: of my point they didn't keep him, but that we're
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: in fantasy world here. Yeah, so I my in my world,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to answer the question it might
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: would have happened if yeah, and if he stayed, certain
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: things would have had to happen to keep him here. Yeah,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I just think and the mindset is different.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: If you're going to keep them, your mindset is different.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: But the only like necessary change would have been signing him. Yeah.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Necessary right. But but in so doing and so making decision,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: the decision we're gonna sign this guy. We're gonna give him,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the money that he deserves as a starting
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL at his stature, I think other
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: things happen as well, you know. Okay, so we're doing this,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: let's go so instead of twelve and four, I'll go
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: fourteen in two and winning super Bowls. I got a
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: good question similar to this in the mail bag this week.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: I'll take it, saying after twenty eighteen, you know, knowing
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: what you know, now, what would you have done different?
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: And I just said, what if you had just drafted
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel instead of to Kill Harry, and then you
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: drafted AJ Brown instead of Joan Williams, and like if
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: you drafted Nick Job instead of Show. I mean, it's
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: just crazy, like and usually I hate these games, but
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's just crazy in this instance where you
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: can literally swap the first and second round Patriots actual
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: picks out, you would really lose no production at all
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: from those two guys and you could easily slip two
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: of the most elite receivers in the game in right now,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just for me seeing in that context,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: like what would have happened then if they you got
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: those two guys for him? That are like right, And
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: that's where I agree with Fred, like you, you could
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: definitely up the potential of winning. I was just trying
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: to answer the guy, Well, that guy was just saying
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: if Brady was here and everything else stay, which that
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: to me is the more realistic thing because they're gonna
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: do whatever they do. I think they still would have
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: won more games even with the twenty twenty team Brady,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Mike and duvall about Brady's greatest game. He thinks it
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: was the Seahawks Super Bowl. Um, he said, you know
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: that same team completely destroyed Peyton forty three to eight
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl the year before. That was the
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: best game I've ever seen with him at his best
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: against the best, so great best. Brady plays Neil. The
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: throw to Amundole in the back of the end zone
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: versus Jacksonville AFC Championship game was pretty sweet in my book.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: That was a great catch though. Yeah, that was a
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: great catch. I mean that was a great throw too,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: but it was a better catch. Um, playoff, Danny. He's
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: on a reality show right now. I just happened to
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: turn on some reality show that's like an intense almost
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: like a military training show, like where they teach you,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: and he's I don't know, I walked in on something
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: and he had to like repel down a building. And
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: remember when he was like publicly posting them and his
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: girlfriend broke up because she was two online and put
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: the phone. And now he's on a reality show doing
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: these men. Yeah, chatters in Manchester. A couple more discussion
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: points for the Brady tribute show. How do the NFL
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Committee topped the way? Topped the way
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: they voted in Manning simply standing up and saying his
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: name rather than presenting a body of work. Oh and
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: do you reckon any attention seeking member abstains or votes
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: against just to be the one no bitter about the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: flake gate, spygate or whatever. No, but that happens a lot. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: it happened for John Elway. The presenter get up and
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: said John Elway, period, that was it? Yeah, right, I
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: think that's I present John Elway. I don't even think
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: he should need a presenter. I should think they should
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: walk in. We're put in in Brady, right. Yeah. Now
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know because they don't make the voting public,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: do they. It's just about this whoever gets in and
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: whoever doesn't. Right, individuals make their votes public. Yeah, it's like,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: so you don't, so you won't know if it was unanimous,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: you won't. Peter King will come out and say this
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: is how split he split his vote. Yeah, um, but
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: they won't like like the all the the all pro
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: voting is the the pf' just the the the ap
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: of the fifty writers and you can add them up.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: You can say, like Patrick Mahomes got forty three votes,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: he wasn't unanimous. And by the way, I'm gonna preempt this.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: When you go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: you go in as an individual, not as a member
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: of any team. So I won't be mad if he
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't go in as a Patriot. Yeah, because you go
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: in as Tom Brady. Um. He also wants to know
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: might they rename you, might they rename a rebrand the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred ninety nine pick as the Brady. I think
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: they should not have it one night, you know how,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: Like you go into an elevator, there is no you
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: go from one ninety eight to two hundre. There is
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: no more one ninety nine retire at number twelve or
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: the whole league too. So I think it's disrespectful to
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: the one nine guys. No, the retiring the number for
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: the whole league, which I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's a thing that that's been
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: serious or more tongue in cheek, But yes, it's disrespectful
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: to Jackie Robinson, which is why the number forty two
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: is retired in Major League base you can't do that
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: with with football anyway. But yeah, I'm not what you
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: could if you wanted to. But if Tom was like
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: some big like social leader, correct, yeah, like, although I
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: mean there's making Aaron Rodgers change his number, that would,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: but every sport has has like the greatest player, right like,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: there's the best guy in the league, and every sports
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: should we just read twenty three? No twenty three? Yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: it's it's you can't do that. Um. I agree with
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: your sentiments abusing this as an opportunity to reset the
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: parameters required for the Patriots number retirement. The bars been
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: massively raised. If they do sign him to a one
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: day contract, I hope Bill Sits still outs him on
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: the injury report for old times sake. That's funny. That's funny.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: But it being in a season so it probably be
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: no injury report. But yeah, um. Actually, the next email
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Joe from Ottawa, just wondering what you guys think about
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: the NFL retiring the number twelve all around? No, no, no,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: what not? Why do you guys say no? I think
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: the Jackie Robinson thing. I mean that I hadn't even
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: thought of that. I mean, that makes a lot of sense.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: But I just don't think that. Well, there are other
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: numbers that are retired across the board in leagues. Nothing, No,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: And I know there was talk about doing that for
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: six six yeah for Bill Russ question, but I don't
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: think it's happened, right, Yeah, And I don't even think
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: they should do that. See I do, yeah, for a
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: similar reason why Jackie Robinson is in in uh in
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: baseball now. I think it's that stuff to me is
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: about way more than ability. That's that's about impact, legacy
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. That Tom Brady is the greatest player who's
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: ever played in the NFL. Right, it's not enough. It's
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: not enough to retire the number room for every team
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: when it's a number like twelve that's the most quintessential
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: quarterback number and the amount of legendary quarterbacks that have
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: worn the number twelve from each individual franchise, it just
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: gets too much. Sorry, Aaron Radger, and I need to
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: change that, ye Aaron Rodgers. Um, let's see Tom Brady.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: This is from Diane. Tom Brady won't sign a one
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: day contract. Coming from a Buck season ticket holder, I
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: live outside of Tampa and am a Buccaneers STM. WE
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: became season ticket holders the day Tom Brady signed. I
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: was a huge Tom Brady and New England Patret fan
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: and would travel just to be able to see Tom play.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: We wouldn't believe he was signing here. We couldn't believe
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: he was signing here. How could I luck be this good?
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: This will not be a popular comment, but I feel
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Tom would think it was disrespectful to the Buccaneers to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: sign a one day contract with the Page. He won
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl here and was so embraced by the
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: organization and city. He was so enthusiastic to be here
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: his first two seasons, and when we visited practice it
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: was obvious. This season his weight loss and lack of
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: energy at practice was also obvious. Tom and Giselle were
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: building in Miami. Obviously that's part of the equation has changed.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: But his children are here and he has embraced Florida.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: He's not going to go back for ceremonial reasons why,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: and he's not going to be in the New England
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: community for any length of time. I don't think. I
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: don't think he's into things just for the ceremony of it.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Is he I was a faithful listener of your show,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: and there is nothing close to it here in Tampa.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: For the Bucks. I've weaned off over the last year,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: but hope you'd be talking Tom Brady today. Please know,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: we freaked out the first few games we saw him
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: in Pewter and read two and now I cannot believe
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: I am saying I cannot imagine him in anything else. Wow. Wow,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: that's good to hear from you, a fan in the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: totally different perspective. And I and I and and to
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: her point, and it's a bad perspective, but I said
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: it when we were break for lunch. I felt like
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: the one year contract is a little bit of an
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: after you to the Bucks and like, all right, let's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: just clear the palette, get them out of here. That's
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: not about them anymore, you know, Like I do feel like,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I hear what she's saying in regards to that.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: And he was here for twenty years, right, you know.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: I almost wanted to say, well, he was really committed
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: to the Patriots for about the first eighteen years. Yeah,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: he was here for twenty years. What was the way
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: she mentioned that was? That kind of struck me. You
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: haven't seen him yet. He has lost a lot of weight,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: he's lost like fifteen or twenty pounds. Yeah, stress, Yes,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: I just feel like he's it's been like since he
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: took that rookie photo where he's got like this big
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: round that was reported by It's like he's slowly just
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: like you look at the progression of pictures, he's been
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: thinning out over the last twenty three years now. But
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: there was like I think his boy there, Why can
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: I never remember name Alex no John Jeff Darlington. I
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: don't know why I keep forgetting that name. Jeff Darlington
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: reported that he uh suffered a significant weight loss. I
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: think he said fifteen pounds. Wow, which a guy like
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: that Canniford. That's not like me losing fifteen pounds throwing
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: a mound chair off the Queen manor because of stress,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: if you think, or like I would think, yeah, because
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I mean he's already doing everything eat eating wise, exercise wise,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: like what else? Yeah? Um yeah, I mean, like listen,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: I hear what Diane's saying. But you know, okay, you're welcome.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: You know you had him for three years, you won
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl, but he's a patriot. I'm sorry. Twenty years,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: six super Bowls, nine appearances. Come on, come on, speaking
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: of faux outrage, I'm not I'm not with ESPN or
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: NFL network has to deliberately like, oh, we have to
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: make sure it's fifty fifty in terms of the b roll.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: No you don't, No, you don't. Oh I know it's
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: PFW is represented every time I'm here for that. Pops
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: up a lot dynasty pat an agawam. How great would
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: it be if they honored Brady at halftime of the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Germany game? Oh? God, no, not good, Bob? Yeah, not great.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Germans would be like what not good Bob? Now do
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I would I love Tom to go to Germany with
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: us and do it? Yes? See, how if you're one
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: day ceremonial contract include something like that? Oh that's worth it.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Get him on PU the pub. How the fact that
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: he just went to Germany last year to plays probably
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: not likely to happen. Maybe there's something there Fred Pu pub.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: You know Pu from the pub. I'm just saying, Pu Pu.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: B Okay, keep working on file file that one away,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: keep work shopping that. Let's just stick with my Tom Brady, Knight,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Katina and Houston my retirement planned. She says, I'd like
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: to thank the Pu crew for providing me with so
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: many valuable life lessons that go be on football. This
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: ought to be good. I got some peanut butter on
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: my fingers yesterday while making my kids a sandwich, and
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: I happen to hate peanut butter, so this is my
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: worst nightmare. My sons had already run off, so I
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: couldn't ask them to get me a napkin. I was
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: also super lazy and didn't want to get up from
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: my stool or touch anything, so I looked around trying
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: to figure out the easiest way to deal with this
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: without moving. I saw my new puppy hanging out by
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: my feet. I put my hand down and he predictably
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: prediculably picked it off. Eventually, when I stood up, I
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: washed my hands. I figured if it's good enough for
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: Boss Me and Cursion. I was wondering where that was going.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: I know it was going somewhere. I like that. I
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: just didn't ask, since this is my first dog. I
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: don't think I would have ever thought to do this
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: before the Wings explanation. The podcast is invaluable. I hope
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: mister Kraft is well aware of that value of the podcast.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: It's in value you please write to mister Craft and
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: tell him so. Right, dogs are good that way, absolutely
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: multi multi task, multi purpose. Yeah, I mean it's a
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: win win. The dog gets it and win and you
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: and I mean you get some slab on you. But yeah,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: eventually you take a shower the next day or whatever,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: you know, spill something on the floor called the dog
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: in I'm I'm in a battle for my life right
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: now because my family wants a dog bad and there's
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: one holdout it's me, and I'm running out because you
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna want that's gonna have to take care
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: of it, right, I mean a little bit, but it's
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: more just like I don't need a whole nother thing
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: in my life. But if you trust that it would
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: be a family obligation to take care, then do it.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: If you don't trust, I'm done it. Do you have
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: any chance whatsoever of winning? Probably not, because in my
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: house I would have no show to run out the clock.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: So then refocus your thing instead of not getting it,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: to focus getting the dog you want. Yeah, the type
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: of dog you want. I think I think I might
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: be a little allergic too, So that's that's part of it.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: It's like a baby, that's brilliant. I don't want to
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: be on prescription drugs. No, just spend enough time. You
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: deal with it for like two weeks, and then you
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: just get used to them. I'm I'm telling me my
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: whole life about my allergies, and I'm like, I never
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: want like I not just deal with it like I
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: deal with it. I walk in a house with a
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: log and I'm like, you know, I don't know. It's
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: my story, it's my battle. Take a serre tech. So
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: what do you do um in terms of like if
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: if you and Nikki are going out for how long? Like?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: But that that's basically my question because that's my reservation
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: about a dog. It's not necessary. I don't I wouldn't
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: mind taking my dog for a walk. I wouldn't mind,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: you know, cleaning up. I mean, whatever it is, what
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: it is, I can't handle. Like I tell you all
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: the time, my brother I do a lot. I socialize
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: with my brother in law and sister in law all
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: the time. They live right around the corner from us.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: The amount of times they cut night short. It's because
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: the stupid dog drives me absolutely insane. Yeah, no, it's
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: a good point. You know, when we both work like
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: we have a dog walker that comes and takes him
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: out during the day because you don't want to leave
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: him at home. Yeah right, when when you when you
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: if you go on a vacation, you got to board him.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: You got to send him to a boarding I hate that.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: My sister's a dog nanny. She's going to vet school
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: right now. But for people that don't want to board
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: their dog, she'll go stay at your loss. I got
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: her card if you stick. That was like, that's the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: millennial job. I'm going on vacation. I'm going on vacation
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, you know, and I don't
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: want to board them. So there's this rover dot com
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: you can go on and you can find and we
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: found this guy that he's gonna come and he's gonna
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: babysit the dog for a week. Honestly, I want Danielle
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: to drop out of vet school. I think the dog
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: nannying is more lucrative for her. I'm not kidding. I
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: made her a little logo and a Facebook page and
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: she hasn't looked back since. But keep doing the same thing,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: and then if she's an actual vet and she can
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: actually take care of these doctor. These dogs. Think that's
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: like but pause point extrait. It does put a you know,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: a hamper on things. Yeah, now I've never had I've
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: never had a dog. I don't want to hamper. I don't.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want a hamper either. I can't imagine growing
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: up without a dog. I've never had a dog, so
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: I can't say that I wouldn't, you know, I would
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: be adversely affect it. I don't generally like dogs, but
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Paul would be the person doesn't want the dog, hates
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: the dog. But this dog and this is yes, that's stupid,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: stupid cat. Do see daddy over there? Give him much,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: give him the love? Is like waul to No, Paul,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: I can see cats, so you know, think you like
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: the cats? Like right? They don't. It's like it's like
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: it's like the picients. It's like they don't make you
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: work for their affection. Vicious and selfish hats. Not my cat. Yeah,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: well but they're good. I love cats too. They can't
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: be trusted though, Why because he'll be hanging out and
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: playing with it and it'll be perfectly fine and it
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't overware. Basically, if my wallet, no, the cat will
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: just swipe at you randomly. You'll just be hanging out
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: thinking you're having a good calm time, and all of
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: a sudden, scratches it wants you. See, that's the only
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: when Will because Will like uses as a whip bone,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden She'll be planning for like
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes, and all of a sudden you Will will
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: come up with a gash on his neck. What happened?
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: Cat Like he torches the cat's but the cat loves him,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: sleeps in Will's bed every night. But I don't trust dogs,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: like like to possible. I didn't grow up with dogs,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: so like I just don't have like this like manate
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: immediate comfortability with a dog. Like every dog, I'm like,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: he might buy me in the face at any second,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: Like that's my Like, wasn't me. It was my sister
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: when she was little gut bit in the face by
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: a dog. So like that to me is getting bit
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: in the face. I have no use for Yeah, um,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Kevin and Dublin spitballing here, But what about waiting for
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: Belichick's retirement to have a special induction of Brady, Bill
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: and Craft In a series of inductions into the Patriots all, No,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: you can have one for Bill too. Yeah, not like
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: I don't. They each deserve their own thing, right, I
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: don't want the sharing of the spotlight. Yeah, they deserve
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: is going to go first, thanktmore the other more nicely.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Now you want to talk about insufferable my show? Yeah,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: breaking it down on the Felger and mass would be
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: all over that. Wait, I have a question, what what
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: what was I heard that I came into Felger, Yes,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: and I heard them laughing about I guess Diana Rasini
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: he had like a reaction to Brady's video, saying it
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: was like one of the most emotional things she'd ever seen.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Tony was like losing his mind about.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but that was emotional, I don't
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: I know. That's what my That's why I think I
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: thought it was perfect by the way I thought it was. Yeah,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I did. Nobody saw what her reaction was.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I guess it was a little over this. Yeah, I
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: thought it was completely appropriate. Yes, give what Yeah, it
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: was about as close to perfect did you can did?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Low low budget just sort emotion he already exactly. I
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to be wrong about that police check. I
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: came in and they were talking about and Mas was
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: like ready to explode. I guess talking about it. I mean,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: it doesn't take much. You want to make fun of
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: me with my snart, I know, well, you know you
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: could tell like Felger could see. And it happens time
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: on our show too, where you see a guy has
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: a look on his face and he's got something to
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: say and he's champion at the champion at the bit
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: And that was like Felg, I can see what I'm asking,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: your thoughts, your thoughts masking. They'll let him unload Alan
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: or Aj in the Bay Area, but he's from Providence.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: I also have a tough one last night kind of
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: gratitude for the two decades of dominance and all the titles.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: Our experience as local fans was unreal, and Brady was
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: probably the most integral part of that success. For me
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: as a fan, the ceremonial contract would mean a lot.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: I understand he and the organization had their differences, and
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: nobody knows just how sour the situation may have become.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: I've learned to accept that his career ended with a
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: different team, but a ceremonial contract and officially ending his
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: career as a Patriot would be a statement that he
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: viewed himself more as a former Patriot than a former Buck.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: Any refusal to acknowledge that would leave me without the
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: proper closure, never knowing for sure that Brady still identifies
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: with the team that I've been rooting for all my
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: life and I still do. It would really it would
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: reassure me that a bridge was not permanently burned right now,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that last point. Do you know that, Fred,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: do you think he thinks of himself as a former
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: Patriot or a former buck? Um? I hope more more
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: than a former Buck. I hope he does. I don't
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: know that. I don't know. I don't know too, Alex.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: I think he has to think of himself. I don't
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: even think there's a question. Yeah, now, he's a former
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Patriot first and foremost. I think I don't spend any
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: time wondering if he thinks that. I don't now. Maybe
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Maybe you guys need this. I don't know.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: I don't Ten fifteen years down the road, what are
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: people gonna identify him with. I don't think anybody identifies
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: him with the Bucks. Now, the Bucks were like a
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: two second footnote. He didn't even want to stay. He
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: wanted to go to Miami so exactly, which is why
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: I think another good point of that, well, no, I
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: was just gonna say to her point, so very well written,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: and she recognized it. Two years he was all in.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: You can't make an argument that he was in this
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: year when he was getting caught tampering with Miami. And
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's part of it too, with the whole
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: timing of his announcement yesterday, because you know, the whole
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: thing I said at the beginning of the show that
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: they recommitted to Ta Sean Payton's out. They can't go
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: back to Miami because that's too shady. That's out. I'm out. Yeah.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: You know, let's see when what Amir wants to compare
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: Brady to Mahomes. Do we want to read that email?
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think we'd all agree
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: that Brady's better than Mahomes. I mean, right now, he
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: says he thinks Mahomes is great, but he had a
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: discussion with a friend of mine regarding who's better. My
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: main point is that I've seen Mahomes lose big games
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. Not only that the team lost, but
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: the loss was directly related to his level of performance
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: the Tampa super Bowl in last year's HC Championship game
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: for Cincinnati. I simply don't recall a big game where
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Brady disappeared. You always knew he had a chance to win,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: and you never left the game saying Brady lost us
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: the game. Oh well, if that's the criteria, then I've
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: never seen Mahomes not show up. I'm sorry. Losing an
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: overtime in the ABC Championship game to the Bengals is
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: not a no show. Yeah he didn't play well, Yeah
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: I don't. He didn't play well in the Cincinnati game
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: last year, Absolutely not, But he didn't. But it's the
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: same thing we talked about with Brady, where even when
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: he had some rough patches, like you knew it was
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: probably going down. I'll give you losses that he didn't
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: show up in, like the Super Bowl against the Giants
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: for the perfect season. Now, you could tell me all
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: you want about the line just let down that day.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: They scored fourteen points. They average forty points a game.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: He scored fourteen in the Super Bowl, but he did
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: score that touchdown to go ahead fourteen ten, It's like, okay,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: right there, you know, and then yeah, just just like
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs scored enough points to get into overtime in
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: a game that Mahomes played like crapping against Cincinnati, I lost,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: all right, No, I just think that criteria is still like,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Chiefs have lost the playoff times
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: quote unquote because of Mahomes. Yeah, when he's not great,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: they've lost. Um, let's see, he'd also like ten and
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: three in the playoffs. Anthony writes in I heard this
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: on the radio this morning, and you know, it's one
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: of those times like I just I wish I could
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: settle set them straight. But they said, what if Bob
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Kraft decided to rename the stadium Tom Brady Stadium. It's
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: not like he needs the money for the naming rights
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: from Jillette. An NFL stadium basically prints money. An NFL
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: team basically prints money. Take the hit, mister Kraft, and
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: do it. So here's the thing, I get it right,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: I don't. But when you have naming rights for your stadium,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: that that revenue gets shared with the other teams. And
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: like for a long time, Mike Brown from the Bengals.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, Uh, I don't know which one which.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: No bills the bill, No, Ralph Wilson Stadium. No, No.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, when when they don't, when they don't get
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: the naming rights, other owners criticize them because they're not
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: contributing to the pool and so, like they would never
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: do that because of that. It's not that they need
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: the money, it's that if you don't name your stadium,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: you're taking away from all the other teams as well.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: And that's big money too, isn't it. Those naming Oh yeah,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: it's like ten million a year. Yeah. I mean the
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: Staple Center was willing to rename to a company that's
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: now I think bankrupt, just because they had they dropped
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: the most money on them. That happens a lot. Actually, yeah,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: so the fleet, so you know, happened Kraft American Airlines.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: You know, Robert Kraft could be magnanimous and do Tom
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: Brady Stadium, but the unner owners would be saying, hey, wait,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: you're taking money out of our pocket. The Bill's got
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of criticism for that. Freddy, you nailed that. Yeah,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: and the Browns did too. For a long time, it
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: was Brown stadium, and they would, oh, we'll never sell
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: the naming rights. Well, you know, not only do you.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. I don't need
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: because fans don't like to talk about and shouldn't like
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: all the money behind them. Who cares. And I'm not
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: a big fan of those things. I mean, I know
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: that that's kind of a big trend in basketball, like
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: you name the court after the legendary coach still inside
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: the building, Chord inside Cameron into a stadium. I'm not
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: a big fan. Um Joel says, just as a point
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: of argument, the NHL. NHL retired ninety nine, and he
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: wasn't symbolic the way Jackie Robinson was. Did they did
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: they retire ninety nine? I know they put him into
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. That's dumb. Yeah, I don't say
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it, but but I think he's right
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: now that he brings it up. I think we've talked
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: about it in the past, and um, and I didn't
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: remember it. I think he's right. I think it's dumb.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: It's also ninety nine. No one else is wearing it anyway.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: But it's not like like Alex said twelves An iconic
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: number in the NFL. You know, he was the greatest,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: but before him, there were another you know, Bobby Holler,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: whoever you want to consider was the greatest. Yeah. Um,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Deuce finally got interested to he liked he really just
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: say this though, they really just talk about legendary players
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: are not mentioned. Did they do this in basketball too?
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: I long for the days when it was like hockey
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: numbers were just normal, like Charlie mcifoy is seventy four,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: like Martians sixty three, McAvoy seventy three. Nebruskis seventy four. Sorry,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: that's why I want sixteen. I want n nine, you know,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: like I don't know. I just all these my day
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: agos were one or thirty thirty one. That's it, I know,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: all right, listen, I gotta get going the meeting today. Yeah,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: so that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody have a good weekend. We didn't go over our
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: picks last week because there's no game this week. But
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: who won? Just by the way, I can tell you that,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: actually I think I was one of them. I believe
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: fred did win. Yes, Freddie was two and oh both ways,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: and the rest of us were one in one perfect week. Yes,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: you were perfect. It's the playoffs, perfect in your perfection. Yeah,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: Bengals didn't, alright, but we will do picks next week.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: Bengositting do your dirty as referee did as we get
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: more information in from the sharps. Oh, by the way,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: um U Kansas City did come out as two and
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: a half point favorites in the line. They opened as
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: the favorite. Yeah, and then now it's two and a
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: half for the other side. So a lot of Philly
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: money coming in. It's coming in, a lot of Philly money.
• 1:57:56
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