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Mike's Health Concerns · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: So I get this– today's my first visit with my–
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: the new cardiologist, right? And I'm not kidding you. Through
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: the night– I'm sure it's completely psychosomatic. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel like I've got, like, pain in my chest all
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: through the night. And I'm feeling, well, not one arm,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just in the middle of the left side
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  Speaker 1: of my chest. And so now I'm on ChatGP saying,
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  Speaker 1: can my Apple Watch tell me if I'm about to
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  Speaker 1: have a massive heart attack? And ChatGPT says, basically, no, dummy.
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  Speaker 1: There's no watch that's going to tell you if you're
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  Speaker 1: having a heart attack or a stroke. But it's a
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  Speaker 1: weird thing to have this. I went to bed last night.
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  Speaker 1: I started a book. One of my kids ordered me
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  Speaker 1: a book from the Esselstyn diet, and that's Bill Clinton's diet.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got to give up just about anything that
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  Speaker 1: even resembles food.
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  Speaker 2: If you love it, stop eating it, page one.
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  Speaker 1: No kidding. It can't have a– what did it say?
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  Speaker 1: It can't have a face or a mother. Oh, no. Stop?
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  Speaker 1: No eggs.
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  Speaker 2: Is it vegetarian nonsense?
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  Speaker 1: Is it vegan garbage? Yes, it's a plant-based, vegan kind
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  Speaker 1: of a thing. Stop it.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it now.
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  Speaker 1: And the guy writes in the book, no, here's what
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  Speaker 1: he said, though. I guarantee you, you will not have
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  Speaker 1: a heart attack if you can strictly adhere to this.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but I'm going to be suicidal
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  Speaker 1: all my life because I'm not going to get to
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  Speaker 1: eat anything I want to eat. It's the old saying,
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  Speaker 1: are you living longer or.
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  Speaker 2: Does it just feel that way?
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But honestly, for the record, ChatGPT says
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  Speaker 1: I should be not talking to Mark Davis. I should
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  Speaker 1: be calling 911 right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there you are.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd rather talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: The way in which you interacted with ChatGPT, this may
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  Speaker 2: be a podcast subject. Anything we do for 60 seconds here,
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  Speaker 2: we can do for 10 minutes or more on the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You said something. I don't know that we've talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we have. I don't know. You apparently have one.
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  Speaker 2: I never will. And the answer is Apple Watch. Just no.
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  Speaker 1: You know why? Can I tell you, can I give
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  Speaker 1: you a little example? All right. You resist this stuff, grandpa,
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  Speaker 1: but let me tell you what happened. My new life
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  Speaker 1: is now as part of this, try to be healthier
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  Speaker 1: with heart and everything and wait. I take a long
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  Speaker 1: 30 minute walk every night. It measures, it measures my
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  Speaker 1: heart rate. When I walk, it measures exactly how far
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  Speaker 1: I go. It tells me what the distance is. It
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  Speaker 1: tells me what my, it gives me all these metrics
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  Speaker 1: on my watch based on my walk.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of the Steps app?
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  Speaker 1: I have it.
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  Speaker 2: It tells me how many steps I've taken. It tells
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  Speaker 2: me how long it's gone. Well, your phone does that anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Your iPhone always keeps you. Just go to the Health app. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it gets into it a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: I know. And I've never really been a big Apple
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  Speaker 1: Watch guy because it's really just an extension of your phone.
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  Speaker 1: Which is the best.
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  Speaker 2: Point, get it away from me. And I'm half kidding,
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  Speaker 2: but not really, because I'm not a Luddite here. And
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  Speaker 2: in technology, watch that. It's just that if there's anything
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  Speaker 2: I want to do from email, if my wrist goes...
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  Speaker 2: Every time somebody wants me, I'll blow my brains out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I know. And that's what happens. And I've got
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  Speaker 1: it on right now. I'm wearing it right now. And now, anybody? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It'll blow up. It'll blow up my wrist, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'll get distracted. And I've tried to even distance it
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  Speaker 1: from my phone so it doesn't cut it out. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's get down to some brass tacks. I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank you for your revelation about the Chris Cuomo text
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  Speaker 1: to you. First of all, two things, and for anybody
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  Speaker 1: who missed it, Just repeat what happened after you did
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  Speaker 1: a really good hit on News Nation with Chris Cuomo.
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  Speaker 1: And you've done an appearance with him on a number
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  Speaker 1: of occasions over the last couple of years, right? What
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  Speaker 1: happened after you did the hit?
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  Speaker 2: It's the usual thing. He's the host. Sometimes it's just me,
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  Speaker 2: but sometimes it's me and Chuck Rocha or some other
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  Speaker 2: liberal person back and forth. Everybody loves pairing me with
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  Speaker 2: these people, and I love doing it. So afterward, we
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  Speaker 2: exchanged some appreciative thoughts back and forth, which we always do.
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  Speaker 2: They're always gracious to me. And he, in fact, said
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  Speaker 2: people love when you guys are on. It's disagreement with decency.
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  Speaker 2: And then a postscript. But I cannot wait for you
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  Speaker 2: to be about right and wrong again.
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  Speaker 1: Post. MAGA.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure he sent that without thinking about it
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  Speaker 2: or just whatever. But the suggestion there, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he means it, is that I am subjugating the
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  Speaker 2: very concepts of right and wrong in order to kiss
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  Speaker 2: the ring or something. And that's why I wrote him back.
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  Speaker 2: I said, dude, I'm about right and wrong every day,
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  Speaker 2: as I'm sure you think you are. And I didn't
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  Speaker 2: do that with any rancor, as I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: did to me. But this is what these people, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that Chris Cuomo is a hardcore lib,
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  Speaker 2: but I think he's just one of those sort of
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  Speaker 2: center left denizens of the TV world. But what a
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  Speaker 2: weird thing for him to say.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that it's that weird for his side.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give you two takeaways. Number one, To insult
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  Speaker 1: you that way, you must have been really good on
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  Speaker 1: the hit. You must have really made an impact. I'm serious.
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  Speaker 1: You must have done very well, as you always do.
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  Speaker 1: You're so good on those segments, whether it's with Will
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  Speaker 1: Kane or Chris Cuomo. They're very smart to use you.
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  Speaker 1: They're very wise to have you. So he knows you
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  Speaker 1: scored some big points. But number two, and I say
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  Speaker 1: this lovingly to you because I know what a big
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  Speaker 1: heart you have, and you're a good faith kind of
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  Speaker 1: a guy. Do you have any comprehension of how he
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  Speaker 1: insulted you? Do you recognize, deep down, do you know
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  Speaker 1: that he's basically telling you, Mark, I can't wait till
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  Speaker 1: you stop lying about how you feel about these political
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  Speaker 1: issues right now.
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  Speaker 2: He's calling me a phony.
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  Speaker 1: You're a complete fraud. He's telling you... that he's propping
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  Speaker 1: you up as a fake, fraud, pretend kind of a guy.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, Mark, you can laugh it off.
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  Speaker 1: I am really, as your friend, I'm deeply offended and
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  Speaker 1: insulted by him saying that to you because you are
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  Speaker 1: the model of integrity. You're like me. Hey, you own it.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: If you make a mistake, I think we both share
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  Speaker 1: that trait. I like doing that. When I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't, we're not sacrificing our values and our
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  Speaker 1: ethical standards because we happen to be registered Republicans who
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  Speaker 1: think that the Democrats have walked off the cliff into
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  Speaker 1: the valley of crazy. You're a good guy. And I
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  Speaker 1: am personally, I'm seriously, I'm being really serious here. I'm
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  Speaker 1: personally offended and insulted that he would do that. This
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  Speaker 1: is really why I don't go on these shows because
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  Speaker 1: they're not, they don't act in good faith. Now your
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  Speaker 1: attitude is let's go where the, political enemy is.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm always treated graciously. It's kind of funny. I'm
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  Speaker 2: treated better on the show.
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  Speaker 1: You think that's gracious?
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  Speaker 2: They've never said anything to me on the air that
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  Speaker 2: was as dismissive as that stupid text.
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  Speaker 1: That was just really, that was weird. That's not dismissive.
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  Speaker 1: That's an insult. I mean, he's a guy. These people,
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  Speaker 1: it goes back to what we've talked about for years.
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  Speaker 1: Trump hatred breaks these people. It's so personal for them.
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  Speaker 1: It's the wildest thing I think I've ever witnessed in
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  Speaker 1: my life. It's got to be his personality. It's all
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  Speaker 1: I can figure out. They must just not like him
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  Speaker 1: on a personal level, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: There's more. Personality, yes. Success, no.
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  Speaker 1: Success, the overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Maher, as we talked about on the podcast yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: having to admit Bill Maher's words, Trump's a badass. When
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  Speaker 2: you have an FAFO president say hello to my little friend,
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  Speaker 2: take no prisoners kind of guy, crime is going to
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  Speaker 2: go down. It is if Trump were not successful, if
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  Speaker 2: he were not rewriting politics, redefining society with the MAGA agenda,
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  Speaker 2: it wouldn't be as mean to him or to us.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and we are right now, I believe the midterm
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  Speaker 1: election is going to be a referendum on good versus evil.
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  Speaker 1: More than half of U.S. college students, this just came out,
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  Speaker 1: more than half of U.S. college students say controversial speakers
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  Speaker 1: have to be banned from their campuses. And there's a
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  Speaker 1: record high number of college kids believing that violence is
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  Speaker 1: acceptable to stop controversial speakers. There's over 300,000—it's an expansive
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  Speaker 1: study— 300, 000 college undergrads nationwide by a group called the Foundation
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  Speaker 1: for Individual Rights and Expression. About 40% of students say
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  Speaker 1: speakers should be allowed to say abortion should be completely illegal,
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  Speaker 1: down from 45% in the study. But again, the violence,
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  Speaker 1: the percentage of students who support violent tactics, an astonishing 34%
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  Speaker 1: of college students nationally believe that violence is perfectly acceptable
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  Speaker 1: to stop someone from speaking on a college level. 34 percent, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: These are the kind of young people, young people were growing.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not just young people who feel that way.
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  Speaker 2: There was a poll while I was away. So only
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  Speaker 2: paid glancing attention to it. Maybe you did more. Somebody
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  Speaker 2: crafted a really interesting question. They told people, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to give you four or five ways for Trump to
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  Speaker 2: leave office. Which one do you like? One of them
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  Speaker 2: was like 25th Amendment. One of them was like a
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  Speaker 2: military coup. One of them was him getting assassinated. And
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  Speaker 2: there were like 20-some percent who went, assassination is good
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 1: What? It's like Charlie's assassination sort of emboldened a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people to say, well, we did it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we hated his voice. It worked. We stopped his voice.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what? Look, they're not wrong when you consider
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  Speaker 1: the supposedly Trump's underwater now with young people and independents.
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  Speaker 1: Who did Charlie Kirk reach? Young people and independents. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so there is a big picture, horrible, horrible
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  Speaker 1: horror movie kind of an outcome here where they're looking
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  Speaker 1: at this saying, well, we got that guy. Now why
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  Speaker 1: can't we get somebody next? Who's next? on the list?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I did this event in Los Angeles this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Shirley, you don't think he came with security? He's 24.
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  Speaker 1: This is a kid. 24 years old. He's got the
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  Speaker 1: kid with the hoodie. There he is in Flushing, Queens
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  Speaker 1: this week interviewing a guy that's got, again, a big
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  Speaker 1: fraud central. He claimed he has 7,000 clients, and he
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  Speaker 1: was making millions of dollars. The guy said, well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have 7,000 clients. And Nick Shirley's got the paperwork.
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  Speaker 1: He said, well, this is from the government. You say
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  Speaker 1: you do. You're making money off of this. This kid's
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  Speaker 1: exposing so much fraud, and what do they want to do?
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  Speaker 1: They want to kill him.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they do.
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  Speaker 1: They want to kill him.
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  Speaker 2: It's the go-to.
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  Speaker 1: That's the, are you kidding? Mark. I know. So you're
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  Speaker 1: going to pull the lever for a political party that
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  Speaker 1: supports that? Where are the Democrats condemning the threats of
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  Speaker 1: violence against Nick Shirley? Where's the condemnation for this study
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  Speaker 1: out of, you know, of these college kids? Hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: thousands of college kids. Name one Democrat who's going to
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  Speaker 1: say that's out. There is one, John Fetterman. That's about it.
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  Speaker 2: Harold Ford Jr. on the five. Or maybe Jessica.
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  Speaker 1: Carlin on a good night. Yeah, and he just wants
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  Speaker 1: the gig. And he likes the gig.
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  Speaker 2: He just likes the gig. But real elected Democrats in power,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, their silence is deafening.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, shame on me. I just did
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  Speaker 1: to Harold Ford what Chris Cuomo did to you. I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. I do think like Carol tries really
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: hard to just go along to get along, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: he's just a true moderate.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's for real.
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  Speaker 1: He might be real. I hope he's the real deal.
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  Speaker 2: I know people who know him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you know people who know him, you write
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  Speaker 1: an email for me. And you say, stop that dumb
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  Speaker 1: habit he's got. Sometimes they mock him for it. Whenever
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: they go to him, great to be around the table
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  Speaker 1: with you. Yesterday it was, oh, I hope you all
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  Speaker 1: had a good weekend. Boy, it was quite a college
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  Speaker 1: football day. I'm thinking. They're not asking you about college football.
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  Speaker 1: Get into the answer. Stop it. He's humanizing himself. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's contrived. It's trite. Let me run Fox News. There'd
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: be a different play. And that Jessica Tarloff had sent
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  Speaker 1: her packing right there with that other one, that red-haired
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  Speaker 1: woman that's insufferable. What's the red-haired woman that she's– She's
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: like a Jessica Tartt, but she pretends to be a newswoman.
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  Speaker 2: Does she sit in the lib seat sometimes?
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  Speaker 1: Well, not really, but she pretends to be objective. She's
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  Speaker 1: real pretty, red hair. It's not Jessica. Now, what's her name?
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  Speaker 2: Somebody's going to text us.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody, please text me.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell everybody on the other side, because I know
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  Speaker 2: she usually sits in the- Jillian. Jillian Turner. Jillian Turner, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She sits in the Dana Bruno seat sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. She doesn't belong in the Dana Perino seat.
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  Speaker 1: She should be in the Jessica seat. Now, look at me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like a lunatic with my– I'm like walking in
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  Speaker 1: and watching a soap opera, getting into what Harold says
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  Speaker 1: and what– Who ought to be in that chair? Who's
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: being mean to me? And for what it's worth. And
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: The Five is the number one cable-rated show in America still.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: It's magnificent. It's the chemistry. It's the fun.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's the wink and a nod. It's Gutfeld, Waters, The
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Sweetness of Dana– And now the new one. She's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Do you like her? Oh, you don't like her. No, no, no.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: I misjudge Janine.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: I like Kennedy.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the way. Kennedy is, I think, the only
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  Speaker 2: human being who's been on the far left, and I
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: just mean geographically far left, conservative woman's seat, and also
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  Speaker 2: in the lib chair. When they can't find a lib,
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  Speaker 2: they stick Kennedy in there because she's kind of a
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: lib bird.
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  Speaker 1: They went real blue yesterday. It was very funny and awkward.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Did you see that moment?
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  Speaker 2: I did indeed.
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  Speaker 1: Between Greg and Jesse. I did. I did.
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  Speaker 2: And that's part of what I mean, too. They're just
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  Speaker 2: having a lot. You know what it is? It's like
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: another partnership I know. They're just having a lot of fun.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Gosh, I had somebody tell me yesterday, an email said,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: what you guys do together on your podcast is simply
• 13:53
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• 13:55
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