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S3 E10: Let's Talk About Points, Baby! · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Fifteen degrees. You can see your breath out in the lake effect, breaking
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  tables like you. Where else would you have to be? And do Ron
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  Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host, Rob Crippin.
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  as always, these are my bills. Thoughts set out loud. It's a
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  vibe, so ridiculous. Thing was sick the shout? Where else would you
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  like to be? All right, let's get straight to it. Each and
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  every year when training camp starts. Um. I don't know if it was
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  maybe four or five years ago. It was silly and I was playing around
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  with my with my kings, and I came up with this little rendition of
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  what a wonderful world from lou Rawls, and I changed the words to football
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  is in the Air, and that was actually the inspiration for season two,
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  episode one when I named the show football is in the Air. Training camp
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  is back open officially as of today, our Bills were on the field for
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  their first practice out there at Saint John Fisher, and boy, I am
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  really, really, really excited about tonight's episode. I'm really excited that football
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  is back. Football is really in the air. Man. I mean,
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  it's funny because the Buffalo Bills means so much to us Bill's Mafia Nickel City
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  crew. Um, this is the very beginning of what's gonna be a long
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  journey to hopefully February, where there'll be some highs, there'll be some lows,
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  there's gonna be some frustrations, there's gonna be some euphoric uh you know
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  feelings throughout the season. There's gonna be points in time will feel like we're
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  invincible, we're on top of the world. And then obviously the playoffs will
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  will shake out and we'll see what happens after that. But no place I'd
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  rather be than than doing this with you guys here tonight. UM joining me
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  as always, my my co host, my man, my may Man,
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  fifty grand. How at the crew Adam dump truck rup rupsick? Excuse me
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  to check them out at Adam r upc z y k on Instagram. What's
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  up? What's up? DT? How at the crew? DT? What's
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  good? What's up? Nicol City? Click clack back, click clack.
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  Let's go. These dudes, they know they're they're leaving their million dollar homes
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  to to go to a college dorm. But who didn't love college? Maybe,
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  so you're right, get back in those dorm rooms and click clack.
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  Yeah, man, click clack. I saw, you know, Dean Dawkins
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  picking up his snacks and stuff from Target the other day. So I mean
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  everybody's getting ready and getting their pillows and getting their xboxes and bringing the gaming
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  systems, and everybody's getting ready to go. So I'm excited about it.
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  Joining us tonight, our special guest, as we get ready to talk some
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  offense tonight and unpack some things. Shout out to the General Midland. I
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  mean just to give let's give a salute DT. Justice General Radford at JA
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  seventeen MVP on Instagram and Twitter. What's what's good? General? Salute?
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  What's good? General? What's good for you? I let the crew.
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  It's super dope to be here with the Nickel City crew. I always love
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  doing your show. Man. The production intro shout out stroke of jeans Man,
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  that Nickel City click, Kevin Street many good, y'all look good.
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  You know, yeah, Man, I appreciate you joining us for sure.
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  Man, we appreciate that because DT and I have just kind of taken us
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  on as a passion. And everybody knows that he joined me around seven or
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  eight months into this thing when I started it over a year ago, and
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  I just, man, I'm excited about nicol City Crew. I'm excited about
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  the future here on Buffalo fan Base, which we simulcast on tonight's episode.
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  time you go on there. So listen, fellas, let's break down this
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  offense. The episode is going to be aptly named because it's it's funny because
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  I was thinking about the title to the show, and I was like,
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  man, let's talk about points, man, and then I thought about that
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  Salton Pepper song Let's talk about sex, and I was like, yeah,
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  let's talk about points. Let's talk about everything and anything that could be.
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  Let's talk about points right now. So I'm down with it. Let's talk
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  about this offense because it's it's retooling a little bit. DT. We're going
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  to start upfront with the offensive line. But it seems like there's been a
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  concerted effort from Brandon being on down and the draft picks say so that offense
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  was the focus of the off season. I know that a lot of Bills
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  fans, Bills mafia out there were worried, you know, with McDermott and
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  his you know, defensive tendencies and how the drafts had been going, and
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  he drafts you know, defensive ends back to back. You know, a
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  couple of years ago. We thought that there could have been a chance with
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  the you know, with losing Trim and himands that we would we would go
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  defense again in the first round. They didn't, you know, they kind
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  of zagged and they really showed a consertive effort really starting from free agency,
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  DT that offense was going to be a focus. It was something that they
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  cared about. They knew that they were missing some things on the offensive side
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  of the football in the second half of the year, and it looks like
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  they took a consertive effort to address it. Yeah, I mean, you
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  look at the past couple of years, really being has kind of put a
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  bunch of guys in free agency, no huge names by any means, through
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  this offensive line. He's remember Forrest Lamp a few years ago and some other
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  you know starters that that never panned out. And but then you got the
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  nucleus. Do you know you have the Mitch Morrison the middle, and then
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  the two tackles and the guards are road hating and improvement is a must.
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  This year, it was one of the worst rankings they've they've had in previous
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  years. And shit, Madden just came out and nobody's over an eighty.
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  Only Dawkins is the only player even raided over an eighty on our whole offensive
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  line. But got some nice rookie help coming in, got Connor McGovern coming
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  in. I like again what we've done, because we all talk about priority
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  number one. It's keeping seventeen upright, it's keeping seventeen clean, and that
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  has to be addressed. And it has to be a lot better than last
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  year. So as much as being you know, has been bringing guys in
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  throughout the years because you got to protect the merchandise, this feels a little
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  different, feels a little bit of an edge. We got some rookies competing,
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  we got some people who really got to show themselves and Spencer Brown,
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  Dion Dawkins and you know, it's make or break for this line. Yeah,
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  it's interesting because general, I was looking at the line and thinking about
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  it. I've got the roster up, and then I was like, wow,
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  it looks like Torrence is going to have a little bit of an uphill
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  battle to beat Ryan Bates. It looks like there's gonna be some other battles
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  in respects to everybody watching Spencer Brown, like DT spoke to, but what
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  do you think about the offensive line, because it seems like with McGovern coming
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  in, uh, you know, Torrence being drafted, they definitely are making
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  an effort to try to fortify. I'm not sure if that means that they're
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  playing on running the ball more. I'm hoping that you can elaborate that on
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  that a little bit, but I'm concerned about, um, you know,
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  seeing to make sure that not only is Josh upright, like DT says,
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  general, but I'm really worried about making sure that he's got the time to
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  go through those progressions, to make sure that those throws and some of those
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  longer formations that we know Ken Dorsey likes to draw up have a time to
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  develop. And that's what I'm really gonna be keying on. Yeah, Um,
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  Torres is gonna start really really over Bates or McGovern He's gonna start a
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  right dar either. Wow, he's just too good. I mean, okay,
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  Ryan Bates might have been our best officive lineman. I heard on the
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  you know, the team left. I would say he's our best office a
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  lineman. He's our most versatile offensive linement. For sure. He can play
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  four, maybe five positions on offensive life four for sure, maybe five.
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  I don't know if he could play lab tackle. But um, Ryan bas
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  is good. Ryan Bases the six man of the year, right, right,
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  Laurance as a starter he is, and if and and you you have
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  to have to respect in Bates and put him as the starter going into camp
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  because you don't know what those Cite restaurants is gonna bring in the NFL.
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  Right, So, he could be a bust. Now that is a mammoth
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  of him, and as a memmoth of a man power. You know,
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  I'm six ten, three eighty five. So if I'm telling you that guy
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  is huge, damn damn general. Yeah, I didn't know what you were
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  like that. I'm the biggest guy and so guy, that's a big guy,
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  you know what I mean. We usually referred to DT as the big
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  guy. But I didn't know you. For all of us, you know
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  what I mean, But I I didn't know that. Yeah, no,
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  no shots some my big boys, but um no nos. Torrance. He
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  never let up a sack his entire intuer. Yeah, four seasons, not
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  one sack, bro, And sometimes like I put it off as a sometimes
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  you slip in like you know what I mean, guy gets around you right
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  right sometimes never not one sack, you know what I mean? Offensive?
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  Okay, So for him to come in and if he is not it's starter,
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  why I would be extremely disappointed. Okay, And he's not a starter
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  by year or two, I'm already looking at bus potential as like yeah,
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  okay, okay, we might be looking at another Cody for it. But
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  I don't think we are everything. We hear about him as positive. Everything
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  we hear about him as positive. I very much believe he's going to be
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  the right guard and he may be the best lineman on the field. When
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  we are on offense, he might be the second best because Dean Dawkins is
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  a pro bowler. I gotta get him respect. But he might be,
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  you know, he might be one of our anchors um But of course,
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  you know, he's a rookie, so that's gonna come further along. But
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  I very much expect for him to at least start. That's by the beginning
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  of the season. All right, that's interesting. I mean, DT,
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  if you've got anything else to add, I mean, I'm I'm just I
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  was. I've heard good things about torn so I'm not trying to, you
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  know, indicate that he doesn't have the chops, so to speak. And
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  I've heard about that sax stat from Florida and that's the SEC. So that's
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  definitely impressive over his career. I just I just you know, Bates as
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  a veteran, he was starter, and I heard that, you know,
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  maybe he was one of our best lineman's you know, last year, because
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  you know, had a little bit of a down year. So I didn't
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  and most see what Kinnor McGovern is too, right, that's kind of a
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  big Gore name, if you will, coming from the that Dallas line who's
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  been you know, five all pros, pretty much the last rain Um.
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  But my point with the offensive line is you know that you got to fit
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  to your to your strengths up there. And two years ago Spencer Brown's rookie
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  year, I think he struggled last year in past protection just he wasn't doesn't
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  have that athleticism to get off the edge, you know, as quick as
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  he and hopefully he's worked on that and you know he's he's going to get
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  there. But his rookie year, when they were kind of just letting him
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  loose getting him on the field, he was playing swinging, he was playing,
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  he was playing tackle, he was just malling dudes. I mean,
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  he's I feel like he's more of a of a frontline run blocker and a
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  mall runner. So I'm not saying we're running Moore, but I'd like to
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  get that little more that tenacity, that meanness of the offense the line back
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  where they're kind of malling dudes and pushing people around to open up that run
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  game a little more to you know, in return, that's going to take
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  way more pressure off and and and catch you some steps on that on that
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  pass protection you're a little slow for if you're he was throwing people around and
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  he's big enough to do that. So I kind of hope that they leaned
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  into that more that mean tenacity than um just trying to be better pass blockers.
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  And speak to that general because you played on the line, because I
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  heard that's one of the things that I heard about towards is that he's not
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  He's one of those I'm not fucking around the type of players, like you
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  know what I mean, Like we kind of need that because a nice guy.
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  Yeah, like we've got a road grader up there now, so like
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  speak to that because because intensity is it matters. And Mitch Morston, you
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  know, spoke about competition breeds it does matter, but when you're that big,
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  it really matters less. Like, Okay, I don't need to be
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  as intense as you know what I mean other players because of my sheer size.
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  You gotta deal with me no matter what. Right, And on top
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  of Osiris Torrents being the massive guy, he also is intense. He hastened.
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  He has the high motor um. He's a better run blocker than he
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  is a pass blocker, and I think that's good for us, right,
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  you know what I mean, because him being a good run blocker is what
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  I'm concerned about. As far as yeah, I agree, yeah, as
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  far as being a pass blocker, even if you're like a B average,
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  again, you're still massive, So someone has to deal with you, you
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  know what I mean. Like, it's not they can't just run through you.
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  They they're going to have to use technique in order to beat him.
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  Like great technique at that. So when you look at the Sires Torrents like
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  in in college again, yeah, tossing people around, like just being a
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  bulldozer out on the football field. And when he went up against Jalen Carter,
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  I think he may have lost four reps total the entire game. Yeah,
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  it was Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter last year was better than seventy five
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  percent. Yeah, right, and and did extremely well because jo go ahead,
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  no, you're good, You're good. Yeah. I was just going
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  off your point there with you know, becoming a better tenacious run blocking offense
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  that Josh already kind of knows how to get out of the pocket and move
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  around, and teams really aren't blitzing us as much as you know, any
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  other team because they know they're gonna get burned. So Josh can handle kind
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  of that upfront pressure. And if we can become that dynamic, you know,
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  mean running line, then that's gonna just back people off. So when
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  we get into passing situations, it's a lot easier to maintain. I think
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  that's a lot easier to do than become good pass blockers be mean run blockers.
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  Yeah, and when might book at the offseason moves that the Buffalo Bills
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  and main bringing in Connor McGovern and having Ryan Bason having those higher stories now
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  and now it's like where we have a wealth of riches. We don't even
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  know who's going to be a starter, as opposed to last year it was
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  like, oh my god, who's gonna be a starter? Right? Like
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  um, And even if it's all average to slightly above average talent, the
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  sum can be a lot better than its parts, right, And I think
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  that that is what they are shot do right this all season because when you
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  take a look at them bringing they bringing in a lot of offensive linemen Yeah,
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  I'm looking at the roster now and it looks like they got like twelve.
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  There's there's a ton of Broker was another guy. They dropped him in
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  like the six to seventh throwing thing. It was the late round pick.
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  And he had never allowed a sack in college either. Now, he had
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  some technique issues and his footworkers like super crazy, amazing, and he's a
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  little undersized, but he could play three to four positions too. Onky he's
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  pretty versatile. You know. They brought in a lot of talent, and
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  I think that it's gonna be like what DT said. They want the most
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  ferocious, disgusting, vicious animals on the field at all times because they don't
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  want anything to happen in seventeen and they get offended if something does happen in
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  seventeen. And that's what you want out of your offensive line. Yeah,
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  I think they're gonna take these twelve thirteen. It may be seventeen offensive linemen
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  may have come through the Buffalo Bills offensive I'm sorry the Buffalo Bills. Uh,
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  you know, one Bills drive before the regular season starts. I think
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  they're gonna be like, I need the five most vicious dogs and you come
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  stand in front of my quarterback. And I think that that's what they're going
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  for. They brought in a lot of good talent to you know, kind
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  of compete. Yeah. And Mitch Morse today, you know, when he
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  was speaking to the press, just talked about how competition breeds you know,
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  the best, and it brings out the best and the you know, the
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  guys, and and it will be interesting to look at, you know now
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  as we transition to you know, the guys that are right next to those
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  linemen. It's interesting, man. I I have I have been almost borderline
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  appalled at the um. Maybe apaul is not the right word, but I
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  have been the expectations for this golden child. Dalton Kincaide is getting a tad
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  bit like out of hand for me part. Now, this is me personally.
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  I'm not speaking for that. I'll explain. Listen, Listen. I've
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  heard Kelsey comparisons. I've heard he he he's the smoothest route runner um.
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  I've heard that he creates separation um like no other in college and different things
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  like that. Now here's here's my only thing that I'm trying to figure out.
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  And I want to kind of temper is most of the time. Historically,
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  Titans don't come in and make a huge impact. Are we really looking
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  at uh Kelsey Cone? DT? Listen, No, you got general because
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  you you are. You want to tell me a secret? What's the secret
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  secret? Don't tell nobody I said this. Okay, okay, okay.
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  Don Kinkaid is not a Titan. Oh no, Oh my goodness. So
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  in four years when we gotta pay him, we gotta pay him like a
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  tighter because he's a That's make my next point. DT. I've been hearing
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  that, ladies and gentlemen, your slot receiver, Dalton Kincaid. Am I
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  supposed to buy that? I even called him the w GR one time and
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  was talking about like how I'm just not I'm not sure they talk so highly,
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  they speak so highly of this guy, and they are really talking about
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  how he is going to be a mismatch nightmare from the slot. DT.
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  Do you buy it? Because they are all I mean when I talk about
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  a hype train, this young man has his own hype train. And I'm
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  not I'm not going yeah just like man Kelsey. Yeah, like I'm hearing
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  reported Yeah, exactly, reportedly like Kelsey, all this and and I'm not
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  I'm not saying he won't be I hope he really is. But you know,
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  I think we got to proceed with caution here. In history itself,
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  the only two receivers have a thousand and only two tight ends have a thousand
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  yards a rookie year or Kyle Pitts and Mike Dicka. You know, so
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  we're on a very small, small scale of you know, rookie tight ends
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  that come in and blow up. But um, you got to look in
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  the room as well. I mean, Dawson Knox is a is a heck
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  of a player, a heck of a tight end. Then I hope Kate
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  is better and they use him differently, um than that. And he's a
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  he's a heavy producer in this offense. So I think that will continue.
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  I'm looking forward to it. I say proceed with caution. I'm not you
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  know, I'm not saying I'm gonna be wrong. If if he does turn
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  out in the next Dravis Kalcine, he turns out great, I'm not saying
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  I'm gonna be wrong. But but I'm not standing here saying, you know,
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  like, all right, we're we're getting fifteen hundred yards is you know
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  his rookie year. Justice General, you have the floor since you are clearly
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  one of those people that are on this Cowboys training because I mean your draft
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  after him. He's got a great smile, he wears the cowboy hat.
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  Everybody likes him that, you know, Josh. Josh continues to pour praise
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  on him. He just did again today the first day of training camp,
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  talking about how he gets open and he's catching everything and all this type of
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  stuff. So listen. I watched highlights after he was drafted of the USC
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  game. I saw him catch the nineteen passes. I thought that it was
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  very impressive. You have the floor, General, I mean, are we
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  looking at Travis Kelsey two point? Oh? Like is that we're looking at
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  Dalton Kinka one point, which did one on one? No? But I
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  mean, of course, as a gaudy you know, those are expectations,
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  one of the greatest, if not the greatest, right, so of course
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  he's got to earn that. But when you look at dunkin kay, you
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  take a look at all the white receivers that we're in a draft ship,
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  the right flowers and Jim Wedell him what's his name downs, Josh Downs,
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  Uh boy, know they were take they were taken one two right above Concade.
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  Yeah, we got the best pass catcher in the entire drift, better
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  than the receiver, better than the receivers. We got the best pass catcher
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  and the entire yet and you know, probably not the best rob runner.
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  And so those guys are a lot quick. And that's the thing is he's
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  an underrated route runner. And so you put him with an nflu. You
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  gotta remember he hasn't played that much. He's still raw. No, he
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  has not, he has, but he has just the intangibles just it's just
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  ridiculous. You know, he catches everything. Um, he never ever gets
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  tackled by the first person that is around him. He slipped, You're gonna
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  have to gain tackle him. He's deceptively fast. He gotta remind me of
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  like a Josh Allen at the tight end position because he's not a Okay,
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  we heard you, we heard and you have to take into account. You
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  know, for years we say we were bitching about first round. We need
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  first round weapons. We need first round weapons for Josh. We don't get
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  DeAndre Hopkins and Brandon Bean makes a trade to get this cat, like you
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  know, so you have to kind of have a little trust in that that
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  bean is we are full bore into putting weapons in the seventeen's hands. Here,
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  he doesn't. He's not expecting this guy to be a project. He's
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  expecting him to come in and produce. So you have to take that into
• 22:33
  account right away as well. This is the first round pick for Josh Allen.
• 22:37
  This is the key. Yeah, you better do something this year.
• 22:42
  You look at in Jigbu Flowers that all these guys fast, Oh wow,
• 22:48
  so fast? All right, cool Travis Kelsey and at ninety nine speed,
• 22:53
  and he's still doing everything he do. Hein you ain't. You ain't gotta
• 22:57
  run as fast as take Dell to be good at you know, at what
• 23:03
  you're doing right you take away speed. He's the best receiver in this class.
• 23:12
  I don't call pass sketchl He's better than any of these receivers. And
• 23:18
  I mean I've heard the best hands. I've heard a couple of guys on
• 23:22
  w GR. He has the best hands, like fire. That's not even
• 23:26
  the competition, that's not even close. Like what I'm saying is maybe a
• 23:30
  hot take because like maybe not everybody feels that way, but he has the
• 23:33
  best hands and that's not even like debatable, right. Um, I don't
• 23:40
  He's not gonna get like a thousand yards this rookie season or anything like that
• 23:42
  because he don't have to. We don't need him to. We got Stefan
• 23:48
  Digs, we got the best wide receiver in the league, while with the
• 23:52
  best quarterback in the league. But Josh some safety valves though. I mean
• 23:56
  we did sign Cole Beasley later the season Brown late in the season. He
• 24:02
  needs from this guy. I think you know we Dawn Kinka serves as a
• 24:08
  get out of jail free card, okay, because if Josh don't know where
• 24:14
  to go, I'm gonna go to the guy who's gonna catch the ball.
• 24:17
  That's gonna be either fourteen now you have eighty six, right, because Gabe
• 24:22
  Davis, I trust with man. But Brebbie kind of folded sometimes a little
• 24:32
  bit. He'll be doing that, said McKenzie. Felt he folded a lot
• 24:37
  lion gold. He folded in some really really bad times too. Um,
• 24:42
  Dawn Kinka not gonna fold, That's the thing. He's gonna catch everything.
• 24:47
  He doesn't fumble. I don't think he has. I don't think he's had
• 24:49
  a fumble in his entire college career, so he doesn't turn the ball over.
• 24:56
  He's gonna he has the highest um He had the highest contested catch rate
• 25:02
  of any receiver drafted, receiver tight end running by any pass catcher drafted.
• 25:07
  He had the highest contested catch rate. So he's gonna catch over people.
• 25:10
  He's not gonna drop it when he's alone. He's not gonna fumble. He's
• 25:14
  gonna get open because he creates separation like crazy, and he's gonna have the
• 25:18
  most talented quarterback. Maybe an NFL has to be thrown little full interesting,
• 25:22
  Are you telling me how we lose? No? That, Okay, I'm
• 25:26
  gonna we're gonna be watching him because I know that he's a fan favorite already
• 25:29
  hasn't even taken one snap, and they are one of the best receivers in
• 25:33
  the league. Taking coverage away for bro he got and let's and we still
• 25:37
  got Dawson Knox. There's no slash. I mean back to back five hundred
• 25:41
  yards season. DAVI is basically ten touchdowns, So so you know, Dawson
• 25:45
  Knox is still out there as well. And who's the cat they signed yesterday
• 25:49
  and from Green Bay? Um? Oh, they signed um, yeah,
• 25:55
  Yeah, they signed that Stern Sternburger yesterday. Similar a pass cat pass catching
• 26:00
  tight end, and I was impressed with what I saw from Quentin Morris,
• 26:03
  even though it was very very limited. I mean, the Duke can play
• 26:07
  too, So it'll be interesting to see how this tight end room plays out
• 26:10
  and trained yet, Yeah, it will be very interesting because you know,
• 26:14
  I know that Dalton kincaide is going to take all the press clippings and maybe
• 26:17
  rightfully so like generals talking about. But for sure Dawson Knox is not.
• 26:19
  I don't think he's getting ready to take a back seat in respects to his
• 26:23
  involvement in the offense. I think in the red zone is still gonna be
• 26:26
  looking to him. Josh obviously has a rapport with him, and I mean
• 26:30
  he's been a touchdown machine four seventeen his entire career. So it'll be interesting
• 26:33
  to oh, I mean, yeah, Dawson. I mean, Dawson's fine.
• 26:37
  I think that they will people to work well together. My thing will
• 26:40
  be, as we'll talk about later in the show, is is Ken Dorsey
• 26:44
  and his job, and that's gonna be the onus on him to make sure
• 26:45
  that he schemes guys up as we shift to wide receiver room, I just
• 26:51
  have to put the feather in the cap for Nickel City Crew, just as
• 26:53
  general you were here with us on that episode last month. Man, I
• 26:56
  saw the storm coming before many camp. I had to get some stuff off
• 27:00
  of my chest because fourteen is my favorite Buffalo Bill currently right now, and
• 27:06
  I just saw the storm coming. I knew that people were getting ready to
• 27:08
  flip out. I knew that they were some rumblings and some things bubbling under
• 27:12
  the surface that Bills fans really weren't telling. Bill's Mafia wasn't really being honest
• 27:17
  about what they really felt about. In the Miseducation of Stefan, Dick's episode
• 27:19
  was supposed to prep you to be understanding of what this guy is after.
• 27:25
  He cares about winning. He cares about winning above all else. He is
• 27:29
  maniacal in his pursuit of winning. I compared him to Michael Jordan, DT
• 27:33
  compared him with you know, you know, he's maniacal about victory. We
• 27:37
  did everything we could to warn the mafia before minicamp that this guy was coming.
• 27:41
  He's gonna be back, Everything is gonna be okay, but but he
• 27:45
  wants everyone to be accountable. Boy did that man not stand up today and
• 27:48
  just kill it on the on the press conference he was about on for about
• 27:52
  twenty minutes, Fellas talked to the media, let them know, and all
• 27:56
  he did was regurgitate our episode from last month, letting everybody know that the
• 28:00
  frustration was mounting. He said, we've been pushing this this rock up the
• 28:04
  hill and not getting over the hill. He said, for the last three
• 28:07
  I went back and listened to the miss educational episode. General said, we
• 28:11
  could have won the super Bowl last year, the year before that and the
• 28:15
  year before that. Nobody is calling you a liar, General, nobody's calling
• 28:18
  you a liar. DT. I felt really good today hearing Captain Dick's talk
• 28:22
  Fellas, because honestly, DT, I saw it coming. You didn't think
• 28:26
  that it was real. I knew it was real, and he just he
• 28:30
  addressed it. Man, He literally regurgitated our episode. Yeah, I mean
• 28:34
  and and come on, let's go one for is ready to go one form
• 28:37
  It wants a ring in and and as the w GR today was kind of
• 28:42
  being soft for usual and we're seeing you know, yoll like, uh,
• 28:47
  we get he wants to win like that. But that's not everyone's style.
• 28:49
  Well, NFL, that's better to be everybody's fucking style, right, you
• 28:53
  got you gotta be a dog to winning this league. And and because then
• 28:57
  on the other side, they're doing the same thing. So I'm excited to
• 29:00
  see maybe he's playing with a little you know, he's he finds a way
• 29:04
  to get pissed, right and this is this is kind of a way to
• 29:07
  play that and you know, like let's go. There's still gonna be talkers
• 29:10
  all the way through training camp, all the way beginning of the season.
• 29:12
  I hope he uses that as motivation to you know, to eat again and
• 29:15
  have another fifteen hundred yards season and and plus touchdowns and right up there in
• 29:19
  the NFL. But I'm excited to talk about this right the rest of this
• 29:22
  wide receiver roster too. I mean a lot of people want to get on
• 29:26
  Gay Davis. A lot of people want to you know, say a whatever,
• 29:30
  yeah the clapper Dave Davis. But only eight hundred, eight hundred plus
• 29:36
  I don't know the exact number, but high eight hundred yards last year,
• 29:40
  seven touchdowns, little lower in yards, and you look at the twos around
• 29:44
  the league. Te Higgins, Devanta Smith Jalen Waddle. All had more yards,
• 29:48
  right, all were over a thousand yards at the number two, but
• 29:51
  all seven eight touchdowns. It's right there in scoring opportunities. He's a few
• 29:56
  hundred yards away. He's he's a couple catches away from being a premier number
• 30:00
  two receiver. It's not like he had three hundred yards and four touchdowns last
• 30:04
  year and completely flopped the dude. Yes, had some big drops and clutch
• 30:08
  situations and and but he's right up there with the number two's. A couple
• 30:12
  more catches and one out route every other game gets him over that thousand yards
• 30:18
  and puts him at eight, nine, ten touchdowns, which he'll be there
• 30:21
  with all the other the Tee Higgins of the world, and and everybody would
• 30:23
  love to have Tea Higgins right now on the bills too. So I'd like
• 30:26
  to ease up a little on Gabe Davis. I think he needs to improve.
• 30:30
  I don't the drops are unacceptable. He needs to be the outlier for
• 30:33
  Josh Allen, but he's not that far away from being top number two.
• 30:37
  I think I think general it could be the catch right, I mean the
• 30:41
  catch rate, man, I mean he was at like fifty one percent.
• 30:42
  Last year he was targeted ninety three times forty eight catches. That's that's good
• 30:45
  for fifty one percent. Like, I think that's probably one of the main
• 30:49
  things in why there's apprehension around signing him and going into the future and his
• 30:53
  status with the team. You seem to be a proponent of him. You
• 30:56
  love him, that's your man. I love his work ethic, but is
• 30:59
  he is he preparing the right way? Because you could practice the wrong shit
• 31:03
  all the time and then you're still gonna be having the bad you know,
• 31:04
  the bad you know characteristics or the bad traits that you're trying to get out
• 31:08
  of your game. They say that he's been working the judge machine. I
• 31:11
  understand that he has one personally, um as well. I don't know,
• 31:15
  man, it's just, you know, fifty one percent. I need I
• 31:17
  do need a little bit more efficiency for my number two general. I so
• 31:30
  Gabriel Davis, mhm, he's a success story too, by the way,
• 31:37
  he's a success story with this big better. I would not once se Higgins
• 31:41
  over Gabriel. Gabriel Davis is better than te Higgins. See Higgins just wow,
• 31:47
  wow. See Higgins just happens to have a better offensive coordinator to me,
• 31:52
  wowe Davis, we might get some calls on that one. Wow.
• 31:56
  Okay. Gabriel Davis HM has everything in elite wide receiver needs. They says,
• 32:09
  he got strength, he got speed, he has catchability. I don't
• 32:15
  know, he just lose focus. Like he'll make the hardest catches in the
• 32:20
  world. Right, he makes so he can catch very well. He drops
• 32:27
  the easiest ones. I don't know. It's weird. So you know,
• 32:30
  if he was a little more consistent, like DC said, if Gabriel Davis
• 32:36
  had one drop last year, he would have had better numbers than most ones.
• 32:40
  Yeah. Oh no, he probably would have been resigned to a contract
• 32:44
  extension this offseason. You know. I think that that's what they're waiting one
• 32:45
  is to see a pro last year if he had one drop, if he
• 32:50
  had one drop or zero drops, because those numbers would have been stupid.
• 32:54
  He dropped some big, big passes. He did like fifty yards now,
• 33:00
  don't feel one was like seventy yards down field or something crazy like that.
• 33:02
  Yeah, so he if he if he didn't drop those, he would have
• 33:07
  had crazy numbers, which tells me that he could still have some crazy numbers.
• 33:13
  Okay, it, But it's all about consistency. You're trying to say
• 33:16
  it. You're trying to say it's in there. He has it in him,
• 33:20
  definitely has it. Gabriel Davis could could easily be one of the best
• 33:23
  receivers in the league. And I'm not gonna lie to you I want him
• 33:30
  to do I'm not even gonna say that. But I just hope. I
• 33:39
  just hope that he taps into that potential that he has, because he certainly
• 33:45
  has it. Um is just about utilizing. It's kind of the Dawson Knox
• 33:51
  is in the same boat. You got all the stuff you need to be
• 33:54
  a great time in you, you just don't. Dawson Knocks don't have the
• 34:02
  football smarts yet. Gabriel Davis has the football smarts. Right when John Brown
• 34:09
  was here, he said, Gabriel Davis and Isaiah hodgens Uh, they were
• 34:15
  the two rookies at the time they came in. They knew the playbook better
• 34:17
  than the veterans knew the playbook. Right, Gabriel Davis, he got the
• 34:22
  smarts. You know what I'm saying. He's he's got the work ethic,
• 34:25
  he's got the you know what I mean, He's got everything. He happened
• 34:30
  to draw football sometimes, which I mean, I'm not making excuses for he's
• 34:34
  most better. He's most definitely better, you know, get that together,
• 34:38
  but he got everything else honestly interesting. I mean, I like Gabe Davis,
• 34:45
  and I'm interested to see what he's gonna do here if we don't get
• 34:50
  to the ooth sleak I mean it's interesting. I mean we got the got
• 34:52
  the one too, and you know that they the guys they bring in,
• 34:55
  right, let's go into turn sheer fielding Deante Hardy, and let's not forget
• 35:00
  about our boy rob one zero Kali, Yeah, yeah, Khalil. I
• 35:06
  mean he's gonna he's gonna be in this in the slot. I mean it
• 35:07
  looks like he's in the battle though, DT because I'm interested most with Deontay
• 35:13
  Hardy. I remember his speed. I remember that, you know, the
• 35:15
  young cap, the skinny, but he was from New Orleans. I remember
• 35:19
  him torching cats. So now I'm trying to figure out between Hardy, between
• 35:23
  Shakier and then I guess maybe Sherfield, who I guess can go outside a
• 35:28
  little bit as well. Who is the slot guy? I know that we
• 35:30
  you know general things, that is you know, mainly gonna be Kincaid,
• 35:32
  But when it comes to the wide receivers, I'm wondering if Hardy can be
• 35:37
  everything that they wanted Zeke to be last year and the year before, like
• 35:40
  they had big plans for ze We heard that he was the training camp king
• 35:45
  coming out of training camp, that he had a wonderful camp, and and
• 35:47
  he was the star of training camp. And then when the bullets were live,
• 35:52
  we saw a lot of the mistakes that Zeke always made. And I
• 35:53
  was one of his biggest fans, but eventually I couldn't keep, you know,
• 35:58
  caping up for him because he kept sucking up big situations and doing dumb
• 36:00
  shit. So because of that, I'm wondering. I mean, remember he
• 36:05
  was one of their first targets when free agency opened. I think they got
• 36:07
  McGovern and they got Hearty right after. I'm thinking, they've got plans for
• 36:12
  this young man. I would assume that they start in the slot. I
• 36:15
  would assume that he's going to be in the least a rotation with Shakier and
• 36:17
  whoever the case may be, and whoever else. But I think it might
• 36:21
  be he might be my main guy if I had to pick a guy even
• 36:23
  more than Kincaid. Um general, I would I would pick Hardy DT.
• 36:29
  What do you think about Hardy I am really keyed in on this young man.
• 36:31
  I think he's got I Um. I have one of my good friends
• 36:35
  a die hard New Orleans Saints fan, and when that signing happened, it
• 36:39
  was like, Yo, it's it's gonna be something for you guys. We
• 36:44
  we love that dude. You know, he just couldn't stay on the field
• 36:46
  and stay the h couldn't stay on the field, But we love that dude
• 36:50
  when he was out there and I you said it best, Rob, Will
• 36:53
  he be what Zeke was supposed to Ben? That's what they've been. That's
• 36:58
  what they've been striving for ire Hill since the Tyreek Hill era. You know,
• 37:01
  of him burning everybody that's Barnon. Bean's trying to have that one guy
• 37:07
  that can be that burning and be that speed guy. All the NFL teams
• 37:09
  are trying to do that, and you know, if he stays healthy.
• 37:12
  That's really what they were saying through Mini camp too, was this guy.
• 37:15
  Capaccio was saying. That was the thing that kind of impressed him most was
• 37:17
  how fast this cat really is? So you know with Hines now out he
• 37:22
  might be you know, in the return game a little more and everything in
• 37:24
  between. But if he can be what Isaiah McKenzie was supposed to be,
• 37:29
  or even a little better than Isaiah McKenzie, We're thirteen and three with basically
• 37:32
  some some dead baggage with Xaiah McKenzie. So if he could be a little
• 37:37
  bit better than Isaiah McKenzie, I think it's all worth it. Yeah,
• 37:40
  I mean, who are you looking at. I know that you like Kinkaid
• 37:44
  in the slot general, but I'm very intrigued by Deonta Hawardy even Sherfield to
• 37:49
  a certain extent. They say he's a mean receiver in respects that he doesn't
• 37:52
  mind blocking out there on the edges. Um he had a you know,
• 37:54
  a few good plays for Miami last year with Tah. What do you think
• 37:57
  about the slot because I think that they're still looking for a few more answers
• 38:01
  and and obviously it can't just all be concaved. Maybe it can in your
• 38:05
  world, but I think that there's there's got to be some type of um
• 38:08
  A space carved out for Hardy because they went after him right away, They
• 38:10
  clearly wanted him, and they I think they have some plans for him.
• 38:15
  Um. Yeah, I gotta admit I'm not as high on Shakier as it
• 38:22
  seems like everybody else's. I mean, like people are excited about Shakire.
• 38:27
  I just I just I don't know. I feel like I didn't really see
• 38:30
  enough. We didn't see any of them. I don't know if if I
• 38:38
  was like super blown away by you know, what was happening when the ball
• 38:44
  was in his hands. Um, but we'll see. Um. I will
• 38:47
  say that on the Buffalo fan Base Matten cast that me and Jake Jordan do
• 38:54
  where we simulate the regular season, Deyonce Hurdy is going crazy right he is,
• 39:05
  um, and it kind of making me root for him. Um,
• 39:08
  you know, and like in real life, it's like I want to see
• 39:12
  if he actually goes out there and goes nuts. Yeah. Absolutely, I'm
• 39:15
  room for him because he's a gilless player. But like, individually, um,
• 39:20
  I think the hardy could could get a lot of playing time. But
• 39:23
  look, man, that wide receiver room is absolutely amazing. I feel like
• 39:28
  you got Stefan Diggs, you got Gabriel Davis, who who who's a good
• 39:32
  number could potentially be an elite number two Kade, who's gonna be an elite
• 39:38
  slot? You keep sliding in there? I keep got mean, I'm not
• 39:44
  I'm picking up on I keeping I hear you, I hear. I think
• 39:46
  Dean Hardy is gonna be a problem. I do. Um, everything I've
• 39:51
  seen on film, he just looks like he just you know, Pops,
• 39:53
  you know, he's just he's really shifty and he makes big plays. Um.
• 40:00
  I think Sherfield also could be a problem. He has a lot of
• 40:04
  speed. To me when I see him, I see, you know,
• 40:08
  reverse sweet type of you know what I mean, like put the field and
• 40:13
  get blockers on the front room, you know what I mean. Like I
• 40:15
  want to see him with the ball in his hands in open space because he's
• 40:19
  extremely fast, very quick. Um. I like justin shorter. I gotta
• 40:27
  say. He's tall. I mean, he's tall. We'll see. He
• 40:30
  was the number one receiver and the entire country. You're coming out of high
• 40:35
  school. A lot of guys, a lot of guys don't do shit with
• 40:38
  that though. You absolutely right, But I do feel like there is something
• 40:44
  there, and I feel like that potential could be untapped. You look at
• 40:49
  when he was at Florida the first quarterback was garbage. And then Anthony Richardson
• 40:53
  was good, but you know he didn't really never had, so it wasn't
• 41:01
  like Justine Chord had tremendous opportunity to be great. Um, he's gonna get
• 41:06
  an opportunity now, right staying there to Stefane Diggs and learn from the best
• 41:12
  rout runner in the league. Like, go out there and we'll get it.
• 41:16
  Moral of all the all these stories, the line, the tight ends,
• 41:21
  and now the receivers. They're deeper than it was last year, Robin,
• 41:24
  and deeper than it was last year. So far, these three position
• 41:28
  groups, we've gone over deeper than they were last year. Okay, well,
• 41:31
  let's go to a group that actually just took a hit the day before
• 41:36
  training camp. Well, I guess it happened a little bit before that,
• 41:38
  because if the news just came out yesterday, but the running back room,
• 41:42
  uh, now he minds out for the season. Um, it looks like
• 41:45
  he was on a jet ski, it says, And maybe I guess his
• 41:49
  agent smartly made sure that the word uh stationary came out through Tom Palaceero that
• 41:53
  us all for contract stuff to make sure that he doesn't lose any money because
• 41:58
  if you're not aware, Bills Manfia, Nicol City Crew, there are certain
• 42:01
  things that guys are not allowed to do during the offseason. Now they're you
• 42:05
  know, more, certain teams are more leaning in on certain things. But
• 42:07
  you know, I remember when Ben Roethlisberger was acting like an asshole and riding
• 42:10
  around Pennsylvania, which does not have a motorcycle helmet law, and they were
• 42:15
  going crazy out there because he's not supposed to be on a bike, and
• 42:17
  then he does it have a helmet on on top of being on the bike.
• 42:20
  So listen, there's certain stuff in the contract that you're not supposed to
• 42:22
  be able to do. So I'm sure that they will quabble over that a
• 42:25
  little bit and maybe try to get some money back, or maybe he'll be
• 42:30
  able to prove that he really wasn't doing anything wrong. But it really sucks
• 42:32
  for the team, sucks for the young man because I think that the Bills
• 42:37
  had plans on him being their main special teams guy. I know that a
• 42:40
  lot of people laugh. We laughed here at Nicol City Crew after we got
• 42:44
  him because what was it dt, I think it was like twelve touches or
• 42:46
  something like that. After the trade it wasn't much outside of that, you
• 42:51
  know, wonderful performance with the Patriots game with the kickoff returns. We really
• 42:53
  didn't see him much. He didn't hit the field much, he wasn't getting
• 42:57
  a lot of touches. But I was still excited to see what he could
• 43:00
  do because I'll never forget that day. Um, you know, DT and
• 43:02
  I were there and like it was just it was something that mart Hamlet situation.
• 43:07
  You were there too, Yeah, man, that was that was just
• 43:08
  Um, it was something I still could get chills when I think about it
• 43:12
  because DT called it before the game and I couldn't even believe it was happening.
• 43:15
  And he was running right towards me. I couldn't even believe it.
• 43:21
  Like I feel like my story was like because like I'm I'm tailgating, I'm
• 43:25
  you know, yeah, freaking and you know, gabbling and Jim and and
• 43:31
  I get to the seat I'm in and I'm like second second level but behind
• 43:38
  the end zone, okay, sure, tunnel side or the orboard side.
• 43:44
  I think I was the other side of the scoreboard. Tunnel side, okay,
• 43:46
  Yeah, he was running away from you. I was tunnel side,
• 43:51
  Okay, he was running away from you, yeah, okay, running away
• 43:52
  from me. Yes, he was. It was. None of my friends
• 43:59
  were said it with me. I was sitting by myself and I was cold
• 44:01
  as hell. Okay, and and I'm sitting here freezing, miserable. Right
• 44:07
  now, I'm excited because at the beginning of the game, sure, he
• 44:09
  catches the football, he running up, running up, he makes a cut
• 44:15
  and I have a better view than anybody in the world at this very moment.
• 44:20
  Right he make a cut and there is nothing in front of him.
• 44:25
  I was like, oh my god. I started screaming before anybody in this
• 44:34
  section, like I was just losing my mind and running. Other people called
• 44:39
  you know what I mean, and they started getting screaming. Yeah, it
• 44:44
  was crazy, man. We told the story. We told the story that
• 44:46
  DT called it before him. It was crazy. I never remember. I'll
• 44:50
  never forget that in the Gabriel day of his ninety eight yard or where the
• 44:53
  two craziest moments I've ever experienced. Bills friend, Yeah, man, I
• 44:57
  mean it was. It was really wild, man. It was wild,
• 45:00
  and it was it was something that ball Bills Mafia will never forget. Obviously,
• 45:02
  with the Damar Hamlet situation in the first game after his cardiac arrest and
• 45:07
  then his recovery. So listen, um, we feel bad for him.
• 45:10
  Hopefully he wasn't doing anything wrong, so he keeps all of his money.
• 45:13
  He is signed through next year. Where does that leave the running back room?
• 45:16
  I have already heard that they have crowned mister James Cook, your boy
• 45:22
  Jimmy DT. He looks like he's gonna be the made back. I know
• 45:24
  that the Bills have not crowned, but the fans shure have. They are
• 45:27
  ready to see what this guy can do. And it seems like he will
• 45:30
  be RB one. If he's not RB one, I think it would be
• 45:32
  a surprise. Damian Harris is obviously on his heels as the running back too,
• 45:37
  but he's more of a change of pace and he's more of a bruiser.
• 45:40
  So I think this is is Cook's job to lose DT. And I
• 45:45
  think it's his versatility out of the back, whether it be catching, lining
• 45:49
  up in the slot, flexing out different things that he can provide the offense.
• 45:52
  I think, hopefully, and we're getting ready to get to Ken Dorsey
• 45:55
  in the minute again that it's that same theme. Hopefully Ken Dorsey can locks
• 46:00
  and things because you don't just run this guy like a you know, like
• 46:02
  a you know, a mack truck right in the middle of the line.
• 46:06
  I think you need to get him in space, get him on the edges,
• 46:07
  and then utilize him out of the backfield as well as a pass catcher.
• 46:12
  Yeah, a lot of hope for him. I was a big component
• 46:14
  of him for proponents. Excuse me last year bet him to win Rookie of
• 46:17
  the Offensive Rookie of the Year. Obviously that didn't pan out. But he's
• 46:22
  gonna I think he's gonna be electric. I'm being biased, I think rob
• 46:24
  but watching these games, he just felt one step away, you know,
• 46:29
  one step away, maybe a little timid, maybe a lot of things with
• 46:32
  that last year, just one step away from really busting loose and being being
• 46:37
  electric. I think he has the potential to do it. Five years of
• 46:40
  film on seventeen now and ninety five percent of that film with him not checking
• 46:45
  down to a running back. Yeah. So they're gonna have to start making
• 46:49
  it. You know, they're gonna have to start making adjustments. They're gonna
• 46:52
  have to start making different game plans because these teams now have a lot of
• 46:55
  looks at Josh Allen going down the field. This could be a perfect opportunity
• 47:00
  for twenty eight to be in that nice little checkdown role, be electric,
• 47:02
  make teams get back honest again, and take care of him, because I
• 47:07
  think he's one step away in the backfield from being electric, and he's a
• 47:09
  huge opportunity for that, for that dump off that the Bills haven't been doing
• 47:13
  a lot, which I think they're gonna have to start doing, you know,
• 47:15
  because that's that's what's gonna be wide open. I mean, I watched
• 47:19
  the other night, Um, I watched the whole highlights of the entire season.
• 47:22
  It played basically every first down of the entire season. It was like
• 47:27
  two and a half hours long. And I watched it all right, and
• 47:30
  there were some opportunities with singletary, you know there, and I think Cook's
• 47:32
  a lot better and a lot more athletic. So I'm excited for Damian Harris
• 47:37
  as well. But I'm really hoping how cool would it be to have a
• 47:40
  guy like James Cook, you know, just kind of filter in and be
• 47:43
  one of those Alvin Kamara types or just like his brother Dalvin types, and
• 47:46
  just be electric out there, just to add another weapon. So I'm looking
• 47:52
  forward to it. I think he's one step away, and I hope I
• 47:53
  don't eat my words here. No, he changes his number. He's not
• 47:59
  his brother. Yeah, General DT is a is a big Jimmy Cook fan,
• 48:07
  Like, I mean, what do you see for him? Because I
• 48:08
  know that, you know, I'm excited about Damian Herreris just because of the
• 48:12
  fact that he is such a hard runner. Um. But I mean,
• 48:15
  there's no doubt that the explosiveness resigns with with Cook. I mean, he's
• 48:17
  got the explosiveness, he's got the wheels of the think it was five point
• 48:22
  seven yards per carry, which was ridiculous. Last year. He didn't have
• 48:23
  a ton of carries, but um, he was. He would have been
• 48:27
  right up there had he had some more carries. And our first carry was
• 48:29
  a fumble. Let's remember that. And I think, you know, big
• 48:34
  old, big bad McDermott took actually sucked at the beginning of the season,
• 48:42
  very terrible, Like I was like, please stop giving twenty. But towards
• 48:47
  the back end of the season he started to kind of you know, catch
• 48:51
  his stride, uh and be able to see the field a little bit better
• 48:53
  and he made like better plays. He looked better, he moved with better,
• 48:58
  He's more confident running down hill. I don't think he's better than the
• 49:02
  singletary. Singletary is actually I feel like it's extremely underrated. I feel like
• 49:08
  he just was never given the opportunity. Um, he should have been the
• 49:13
  Bell Kyle running back the last three years, but he was never given that
• 49:15
  opportunity. Now he can help the Texas. Him and Damian Pierce is going
• 49:23
  to be disgusting. Okay, I fear that we're gonna do the same thing
• 49:30
  with James Could. Um how so how I feel like James could again?
• 49:36
  I do agree with DT to a certain extent that he he does feel like,
• 49:40
  Um, he can be in the lead back. He has the speed
• 49:45
  besides the strength. Um, he just gotta find it now. He's got
• 49:51
  to find his rhythm in the NFL. UM. But Damian Harris is I
• 50:00
  feel like goal line, you know, third and one type of deals.
• 50:04
  Um, I feel like that's where you see Damien Harris. I don't think
• 50:07
  you see too much of him as far as UM. Just you know,
• 50:12
  second and thirteen, you're gonna see Damien Harris on the field, right um.
• 50:15
  And and I Naim Himes I supposed to. I feel like he was
• 50:20
  gonna really get a big role in the running this year. Oh really,
• 50:25
  Okay, because they don't they don't know last year, so I didn't know
• 50:30
  if they were gonna I didn't know. Really. They had Singletary. Singletary
• 50:34
  was their best back last year. And then they also wanted to feature Cook.
• 50:38
  Now Cook is your best back, so you're gonna want to feature somebody.
• 50:42
  And I think Damien Harris could be featured, but I see him more
• 50:45
  as a power situation type of guy. Okay. And then he bust one
• 50:50
  from like eighty on that Monday night win game. Yeah he did, Yeah,
• 50:55
  yeah, Yeah, he's had two good games against this actually, yeah.
• 51:00
  Yeah, he's had like like three hundred games. Actually. I feel
• 51:04
  like name Hines was gonna get a lot of love in the in the office
• 51:08
  this year. And how I feel like they're probably gonna go get a third
• 51:13
  running back somewhere. It'll be interesting to see who they get. Well,
• 51:15
  they got they have Murray. They have Murray, they signed to you know
• 51:20
  Murray. Yeah, they have us Murray O. Davian Murray is gonna be
• 51:25
  your short yardage guy. He's gonna he's gonna be featured. Yeah, it'll
• 51:32
  be interesting, man. You know the running back room, Like I said,
• 51:36
  well, you know, our sentiments go out to to to Nightie Hines
• 51:37
  because regardless of if he was going to get a lot of touches, like
• 51:40
  I said, from the actual running back room, UM, I was definitely
• 51:44
  obviously looking for his contributions on special teams. So um, I'm just hoping
• 51:47
  that they don't they don't put too much on Hardy to do that, and
• 51:51
  then let not let Hardy play receiver. That's I'm really excited to see Hardy
• 51:54
  play receiver. So I'm hoping they can figure out who can return punts and
• 51:58
  kicks and maybe figure that whole th out. Maybe he'd be our boy Shakiir
• 52:01
  who knows. I have no idea, but they'll figure it out. That's
• 52:05
  what training camps for. As we begin to wrap up, I appreciate you
• 52:07
  guys time tonight. We've got to touch on two more topics and then we're
• 52:12
  we're out of here. Man seventeen, I don't know what else there is
• 52:16
  to be said other than what has already been said, is that we do
• 52:20
  have a generational quarterback. You guys have both spoke to that some people think
• 52:23
  that he's historically great. We're gonna find out, you know, we know,
• 52:27
  the winning championships is kind of how you have to measure up in the
• 52:30
  playoffs when it comes to a legacy. But talent is there, one of
• 52:35
  the best in the league right now doing it outside of my homes. Really
• 52:37
  excited for him, I'm exactly, I'm just I don't know, man.
• 52:43
  He has told us all off season that he is very, very focused.
• 52:46
  He has told us all offseason that he is ready to go. We've got
• 52:51
  this whole step on Dick's thing under the rug now under the bridge, as
• 52:53
  Stefan would say, you know, water under the bridge. The decks are
• 52:57
  clear, there's there's just I just get that weird feeling fellas in the back
• 53:02
  of my in the back of my mind that I just don't know how many
• 53:07
  more opportunities and knocks will have at the door. I'm I'm not saying that
• 53:12
  the windows close. I'm not one of those people. As long as Josh
• 53:14
  Allen is healthy and up right, we're gonna have a good team. We're
• 53:16
  gonna have a decent offense. But eventually we have to retool. Eventually,
• 53:20
  contracts come up. You gotta get guys into the system, rookies coming every
• 53:23
  year. I don't know how many more knocks we have at the door in
• 53:27
  respects to how good we are. We were really pride these last three years.
• 53:31
  Yeah, I ask you a question, oh oh, on offense,
• 53:38
  how many players would you say are absolutely untouchable as far as being traded two
• 53:49
  defense? How many players would you say we have that are absolute unto I
• 53:54
  mean, don't even talk to me about trying to trade for this personal defense?
• 54:00
  Zero or one. One would be Von but he's so old. But
• 54:04
  the actual investment that they made into him, other than that, even from
• 54:06
  one of my favorites, trade White, one down nobody. That is exactly
• 54:08
  why our windows not closing. It. Oh, no, I know that
• 54:12
  it's not. I know it's not closing. But I'm talking about the knocks
• 54:15
  on the door, um general, which are very different now. The knocks
• 54:19
  on the door are divisional round AFC Championship, which we've only been to one
• 54:22
  too, I mean Super Bowl obviously, which we haven't appeared in. So
• 54:27
  I know you're getting over there rolling your eyes. I have have done the
• 54:31
  research. Man, No, they said nobody can, and he never went
• 54:36
  back his second, he never went back. I feel like everybody's panicking,
• 54:40
  right, I feel like everybody's panicking. You don't get to years. This
• 54:46
  is gonna this is gonna be Josh's third Oh okay, oh years, we
• 54:55
  all get to play replay years. I mean, with any real expectation,
• 55:01
  this is gonna be his fourth season of being a good quarterback. Right,
• 55:07
  he had three kind of you know, let's mature years. Right, Okay,
• 55:14
  this is going to he had three years now with being an elite quarterback.
• 55:20
  But he I mean like he didn't win the Super Bowl and three tries.
• 55:25
  Oh my god, let's burn him at the stake. Butt had just
• 55:31
  as many tries fifteen, had just as many tries. And he's got two
• 55:36
  rings and two mbps nine less tries. Three You has less tries, had
• 55:44
  less tries equivalent? Do we have I'm saying no, it's turn but it's
• 55:52
  not. As we talked. We talked the most shit out anybody, right
• 55:55
  as Bills fans, we're Josh Allen look out. We got Josh challenge and
• 56:00
  it was yo, Josh Own's an alien. I wish I had Josh Own.
• 56:02
  You guys are sick too. Now it's turning to Okay, chill out.
• 56:06
  What what have you guys done? You know? And so I'm not
• 56:08
  saying that it's over, but that's the narrative is changing a little bit.
• 56:12
  And I don't know if you guys watched that. Oh I love the quarterback.
• 56:16
  I'm on my second, my second go round through the quarterback, I'm
• 56:19
  on my second go How how does that make you feel about how fifteen looks
• 56:23
  in that? It's Oh, I got I got a better question. If
• 56:30
  second played for the Chiefs h and fifteen played for the Bills. Okay,
• 56:38
  now I would have the better squad. I'm not playing that further. I'm
• 56:43
  not saying I'm just saying I think I meant we gotta do so because what
• 56:47
  you're doing is you're comparing like legacy right like it's it's team awards. If
• 56:52
  we're being real like, you can't compare that if one clearly has a culch,
• 56:57
  who is much better? Yeah. My main thing, I don't want
• 57:00
  to get off on the coaching tanda too much. My main thing is that
• 57:04
  is the knocks on the door is that this team has been prime general.
• 57:07
  This team has been prime DT these last couple of years since the AFC Championship
• 57:10
  game. Now, the AFC Championship Game came as a surprise to us as
• 57:14
  fans, but I'm sure in the building they thought that they were capable.
• 57:16
  They got you know, they got beat you know what I mean. It
• 57:19
  was was not you know, particularly the close and that was fine. The
• 57:22
  next year was another Super Bowl where you're knocking on that door that was thirteen
• 57:27
  seconds, which we blundered and threw away. Then last year you get beat
• 57:30
  at home when you had everything set up the way that you wanted because apparently
• 57:35
  you like to be a cold weather team. Apparently you want to be at
• 57:37
  home it's snow and it shouldn't bother you, and you got pushed around all
• 57:39
  over the field, my backup lineman, even on the offensive line for the
• 57:43
  for the Bengals. My main point is how many more years will it look
• 57:47
  this good? Is what I mean. Stefan Dix won't be here forever.
• 57:51
  Um. I know you love Gabe Davis. Maybe he'll go into his second
• 57:53
  contract and then he'll be our number one eventually. But my point is the
• 57:58
  team is not going to get better than it has been these last couple of
• 58:00
  years, exactly because because rosters changed, its changed. What we have to
• 58:10
  acknowledge is you have to acknowledge the fact that Brendan Bean is yet to miss.
• 58:15
  Oh my, what on what as far as roster building going in,
• 58:22
  No, no, no, no, not what I'm saying, because draft
• 58:27
  picks hold on. Just because the player doesn't pan out does not mean that
• 58:31
  it was a miss. As far as the GM is concerned. The GM
• 58:36
  cannot develop a player right. He can only take what he sees right,
• 58:40
  and in Japanese is not a bad player. They made him lose matd weight
• 58:45
  and they changed his complete the whole style of rushing the passer, so like
• 58:50
  he's not even the same player he was in college. So that's differently,
• 58:52
  don't agree that that Bean has none. But then but then you also have
• 58:55
  to acknowledge the fact that Yo, I wouldn't got Dame Jack in like the
• 59:00
  seventh round off, I wouldn't got Ron Johnson in the late rounds, Matt
• 59:07
  Milano. So you take these players, and he's always put a team on
• 59:15
  the field where the sun was better than his parts. Every single season he's
• 59:20
  been the GM, he has put a great team on the field, except
• 59:24
  right where it was early. He had to do some retooling with the roster.
• 59:30
  Outside of that, he's put a good team to great team on the
• 59:35
  field every single year. Now, when the coaching folds at the end of
• 59:38
  the season, that's not on Brandon Bean. Injuries happened, that's not on
• 59:42
  Brandon Bean. He has always put a more than serviceable football team on the
• 59:46
  field. He is yet to not do so. So if you're gonna say,
• 59:51
  first of all, Stefan Das is getting resigned no matter what, He's
• 59:53
  gonna retire a bill. I's gonna leave when he's got like two seasons left
• 59:57
  in the team, all right, he's staying here. Okay, he's up
• 1:00:00
  with seventeen for the rest of his life. Right, Uh, seventeen is
• 1:00:04
  gonna be here for the rest of it. Why you Rob, we got
• 1:00:08
  them too, and we got you know, Brandon Dean, his bro his
• 1:00:13
  scouting department. What you're almost doing is saying that at the end of the
• 1:00:19
  season, the result doesn't matter because we'll get him next year. And that's
• 1:00:22
  exactly what I'm trying to I don't think we can't blame Brandon mean, I
• 1:00:29
  don't know. I don't blame you. You asked the question about knocks at
• 1:00:32
  the door. So so what I'm saying is you'll always always have more knocks
• 1:00:37
  at the door because Brandon Bean is going to provide. Now it is up
• 1:00:43
  to Sean McDermott to follow through or what Brandon Bean has provided him, and
• 1:00:50
  he's not done so up to that, up to this point, the arguments
• 1:00:52
  out of me and DT on that, well, it's it's also it's also
• 1:00:55
  up to seventeen now too. Right, Sean mcdermot's going basically strictly to the
• 1:01:00
  defense. You got a second year offensive coordinator and Ken Dorsey, seventeen's going
• 1:01:04
  into year seven. It's time for him to start making his own way in
• 1:01:07
  that regard too. It's time for him to start getting people's as coaching the
• 1:01:12
  team too. Like that's what we're I think Robin I's point is, that's
• 1:01:15
  what we're saying. That next step for seventeen is we know he's capable and
• 1:01:19
  whenever he's on our team, we got a chance to win the Super Bowl.
• 1:01:22
  But he needs to make that next step up to an elite like he
• 1:01:24
  is elite now, but that step up to a all time quarterback. Those
• 1:01:29
  Tom Brady's, those Peyton Manning's the world You don't just put on the cave.
• 1:01:32
  Oh no, I'm not. Everybody around you back. I think we're
• 1:01:35
  staying the same thing. But you're thinking that we're saying something different than what
• 1:01:37
  I hear from the general is that is that John Shandon is elite. I'm
• 1:01:40
  definitely never gonna say that he's not elite. I think that he's one of
• 1:01:43
  the best quarterbacks in the league. Outside, like I said, outside of
• 1:01:45
  mahomes Borough, he's right up there. He's one, two or three.
• 1:01:49
  But however, I just you just don't get to go to these You don't
• 1:01:52
  just get to go just because you're you have a good quarterback. It has
• 1:01:55
  to be insulated around things around him. So I understand that Brandon beat to
• 1:02:00
  me. He's not perfect, but he's been very very good at his job.
• 1:02:02
  It Salary caps, which I know, go up, so I know
• 1:02:05
  you get ready to say that, I know salary caps go up. Decisions
• 1:02:07
  on players, draft picks, um. You know, free agency, Every
• 1:02:12
  free agency move is not a hit. Every you know, Saffold wasn't a
• 1:02:15
  hit last year, right, I mean, like, so we have to
• 1:02:17
  keep it like. Everything is not perfect, which means that there's going to
• 1:02:22
  be some you know years where you might be a little bit more lean in
• 1:02:24
  certain areas. I clearly you're saying that he's never gonna leave us lean and
• 1:02:29
  and and maybe and I hope you're right. You know what I mean,
• 1:02:30
  because I want to be in a position to knock on the door. I
• 1:02:34
  don't know how many knocks we get at the door. I know that we've
• 1:02:36
  wasted three opportunities. It's gonna take evolving. It's gonna take evolving, because
• 1:02:42
  I haven't wasn't like a complete bust. It was pretty bad, it wasn't.
• 1:02:49
  I don't I disagree. I don't think he was awful, right,
• 1:02:52
  Um, okay, as far as seventeen, you having to take a step
• 1:02:59
  into the all time I mean, the only way he's broken all the records
• 1:03:05
  you need to break in Buffalo. Right, he plays in crappy weather at
• 1:03:09
  least six games out of the year, so of course his numbers ain't gonna
• 1:03:13
  look as good as somebody who plays in Missouri. I don't care about championship.
• 1:03:20
  I don't care about any of that. Josh Allen. He is the
• 1:03:22
  highest usage rate in the NFL, like bar None, It's not close.
• 1:03:28
  He has to run, he has to be his team's best running back.
• 1:03:31
  He has to be seventy five. You know he was responsible football? Was
• 1:03:37
  it like eighty seven percent of the team's points last year? Just ridiculous?
• 1:03:42
  He like, Yo, they didn't run the ball last year at all?
• 1:03:45
  Barely. I don't we don't know. I don't want him to keep putting
• 1:03:50
  on the superman everything. You often look at the offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey.
• 1:03:54
  There was no creativity. Seventeen had to do everything. You can't put more
• 1:04:00
  on Josh Allen's play. We need to have more creativity in the offensive line,
• 1:04:04
  which which is why I think the Andy Reid point is so important when
• 1:04:08
  you're talking about the difference between Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen. Of course Pat
• 1:04:13
  Mahomes looks better, Yo. Do you remember in the playoffs? I love
• 1:04:16
  coming back to this point, and I love the fact that it happened now.
• 1:04:18
  I hated it when it happened, but I love that it happened now
• 1:04:20
  because it proves my point so perfectly. Remember in the playoffs when Pat Mahomes
• 1:04:25
  got injured, Chase Daniel or something, Yeah, and he came at the
• 1:04:30
  one yard any Land a ninety nine yard touchdown drive, that's Andy Reid.
• 1:04:35
  Okay, if if Josh got hurt and we was backed up at the one
• 1:04:42
  in case Kingdom came in, the other team would have two points. N
• 1:04:47
  Barty is not even in the same planning as Andy read as far as an
• 1:04:54
  offense, So so you you have to take that into consideration. I don't
• 1:05:00
  I just want a championship general. I just want a championship DT. And
• 1:05:02
  and all I was trying to say is that I just I just don't know
• 1:05:05
  how many more opportunities we're gonna have because the roster look has looked great these
• 1:05:10
  last three years. And and I will I'll fight you that it's going to
• 1:05:13
  always look this great. I just think we're moisting opportunities DT. I really
• 1:05:17
  do think that. Well, yeah, and I think that so we are
• 1:05:21
  wistening him, Well how many more at the point exactly, I'll end on
• 1:05:26
  this point of east position group we hit tonight, We're deeper, we're better
• 1:05:30
  in all to help one guy, all to help seventeen. Right, So
• 1:05:34
  I think that this is all resolving around him. Everything goes through seventeen.
• 1:05:40
  I think he's gonna have to change and develop in his own way as he
• 1:05:44
  as he grows and gets older. He's already talking about want to you know
• 1:05:48
  easy. He knows he's got to do all this right, but he also
• 1:05:53
  knows he's one of a kind. So after again, I go back to
• 1:05:56
  the point, there's a lot of film on him. Now. He knows
• 1:05:58
  he's got to change some things up and and he can't be Superman all the
• 1:06:00
  time because that's on the film now. So I believe in his in his
• 1:06:05
  progression. I think he's gonna change some things up and we're gonna be pleasantly
• 1:06:09
  surprised with a little. Um. He's still gonna be Josh Allen, He's
• 1:06:12
  still gonna be jumping over people and running people over. But I think we're
• 1:06:15
  gonna see a little more prowess, um, a little more old school quarterback
• 1:06:20
  from him this year. Interesting. We'll see, I mean, we'll see.
• 1:06:25
  We didn't get a chance to really touch on Dorsey too much. I
• 1:06:27
  wanted to because I know we're getting late into the show, But Dorsey for
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  me, Um, you know, I will wrap up on this and I'll
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  let you have the floor in general, because this is really why we wanted
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  to have you on the show to talk about often, to talk about Dorsey.
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  Um what I will Here's where I land on Dorsey. You you you
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  only get one chance to say that it was your first time on the job,
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  is what I will say. So I was critical of him last year.
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  I wasn't ultra critical. I know the DT can can confirm on that.
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  I wasn't ultra critical of him, but I felt that there weren't enough
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  layouts. I have been a proponent um Nicholsudku knows this. Of Brian Dable.
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  I thought that he made many layups. We had an episode actually called
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  layup Lines because there was something missing right around by week. We talked about
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  it right around that Green Bay, Kansas city time, the offense shift.
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  Even Stefan dig spoke to it. You were on that episode where we played
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  him, and he was talking about how we kind of went away from some
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  of the stuff that was working. Everybody notoriously wondered why the hell of the
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  Bills look like they're on ice skates during the divisional round, and you so
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  astutely put to a general that you know, the route concepts were not adequate
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  for a snow game. So listen, here's where I come down on Dorisey.
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  You only get one chance to say that it was your first time with
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  McDermott going to the defense and we're gonna get defense next week. It's just
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  it's almost like it's almost like the parent it's out of town for the weekend,
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  how about that? And they leave the kid one hundred bucks and they
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  say, you know what I mean, Okay, you can order pizza,
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  stay out of the o them and we'll be back on Sunday. And he's
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  like, okay, and you take the hundred bucks and you can either go
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  and make sure you budget it and go get some pizza a couple of times,
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  or what are the case maybe where you can call all your friends and
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  buy a keg and throw a party. I'm I'm interested to know how he's
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  going to run. There's not going to be anybody over him. And I
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  know that McDermott is on the defensive side of the ball, so he's not
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  necessarily over him and watching him like that. But McDermott is not even gonna
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  be around for the offense. Really, to be honest, what does that
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  look like for this team when it comes up? Because Dorsey, it's it's
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  really there's as much pressure there is on McDermott I think there's an equal amount
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  of pressure on Dorsey too to make sure that he's manufacturing easy plays. DT
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  you hit it and then we'll we'll let you close. Yeah, I mean,
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  I'm gonna kind of I'll be critical when I need to at the end
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  of the year if we need to. I hope I don't. But thirteen
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  three thirteen and three second scoring offense in the NFL in year last year,
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  I know, I know, so yes, and people will say that yeah,
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  yeah, and let's write that to you know, let's grow as he's
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  growing. Another year with Josh, another year together. Josh is also going
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  to be, you know, helping him out a little more than he was
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  last year, probably calling his own stuff on the field and helping that too.
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  So I have confidence I'll be critical when I need to. But thirteen
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  to three second scoring offense in the league last year, so we'll see,
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  that's what I got. I mean technically that those were the stats generally,
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  But we'll let you close tonight because I'm just watching him. I was watching
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  him last year general, and I was I was never there. I was
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  I was impressed in the beginning of the season, and then it faded.
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  How about that the Rams, we look like world beaters, and then the
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  Titans and all these games we looked great, and they would look like there
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  was a little bit of creativity. I mean that one play, the very
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  first touchdown of the season to your boy Gabe Davis, he comes down,
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  cracks down, looks like he looked like he was getting ready to block.
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  Boom leaks out easy touchdown. It looked easy. Those plays were fewer and
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  flour between as a season went on, and it kind of concerned me.
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  We did a whole episode of layup lines about it. So you close the
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  show because I know you've got some feelings about Dorsey. First of all,
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  I don't DC. I don't. I don't mean to, Okay, I
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  just I get passionate, all right, Oh no, we love it here
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  and I have stronger fans. I love him, So I apologize if I
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  come off with bracon. Um. I will say this right when Clark Kent
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  is in Metropolis, mm hm, I ain't no Batman flash yep. You
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  know when when when Lex Luthor is up to no good? Yeah yeah,
• 1:10:39
  he goes on the phone booth and until Bruce Wayne stops in Metropolis, which
• 1:10:45
  we have with Bruce Wayne right, But Bruce Wayne can only do so much.
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  Human can only do so much because he's a wide receiver. It's not
• 1:10:58
  like he getting packed the game that crazily right, right. We don't got
• 1:11:04
  no other Justice League members now, but I mean and and as far as
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  accrediting Dorsey to the the so that's I feel like that's the thing I guess
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  that I don't I don't understand what's that is. We will credit Ken Dorsey
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  with second offense in the league. Mum, yeah, yeah, right,
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  not to mention these guys didn't finish a single finish a whole basically a whole
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  game, the whole three quarter game, and then sat out multiple fourth quarters.
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  So as far as I'm concerned, there the best offense in the league.
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  Okay, but all that was seventeen though much of much, I would
• 1:11:58
  say eighty percent of it was seventeen, right, because Ken Dorsey did a
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  tribute twenty percent. In the beginning of the season, he didn't. It
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  was going crazy and then he you know, he got help apparently because he
• 1:12:10
  wouldn't go crazy no more. He was he was a very sane person for
• 1:12:14
  the rest of the season. He wasn't crazy at all, So do you
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  think it's a problem. Do you think there's a problem brewing. Oh,
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  there's a problem, absolutely, Okay it we'll see if it's able or if
• 1:12:30
  it has been fixed because the inexperience definitely showed last year. Okay, it
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  definitely showed. And I don't think that he's garbage, like you know what
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  I mean. I just think that we're seven what did you say, it's
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  want to be Josh the seventh season. We're seven years into this thing with
• 1:12:56
  a generational quarterback, and we don't really we have time for mistakes because you're
• 1:13:00
  talking about yeah, like come on, like, we ain't got time for
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  you to learn how to win, Like, yo, we need a Lombardy,
• 1:13:14
  we need to platinum right Like. So that's my only thing with Ken
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  Dorsey, And maybe that's not fair to him. It might not be fair
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  to him professional sports. I mean, we can cook again. We want
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  took the gig with the most talented quarterback in the world. So now you
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  have to be held responsible for that guy not being able to succeed, because
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  that's ridiculous. How does that guy not succeed? Yeah, yeah, that's
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  when. But when guys are running post quarters and in five inches of snow.
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  Nobody throw the ball too like we are doing. Yeah, it would
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  be interesting. I mean he's going to be a man that is going to
• 1:13:53
  be under the microscope once again. Man, I mean, you know there's
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  no way around it for him. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm
• 1:14:00
  the next time I'm on the show, I'm gonna bring all all twenty two
• 1:14:02
  film with me. Okay, we're stowing some of the round concept. Yeah,
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  how Josh Allen has to be Superman in order for this play to work.
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  Yeah, and you know what I mean, because that's that's what I'm
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  thinking of. And I'm just like, like, Josh, me help.
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  It'll be interesting because that is the help that he has right now is Ken
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  Dorsey's show. Josh endorsed him last year when he got the job, and
• 1:14:28
  you know, we heard Stefan Digg say today that he loves Ken Dorsey.
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  So there's there's definitely belief that one bills drive that this guy can get it
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  done. We'll see because he's definitely gonna be front and center. Next week
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  will be my favorite week. We will get a chance to go into the
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  defense because you already know I'm chomping at the bit to talk about Sean McDermott.
• 1:14:43
  I'm always chomping at the bit to talk about Sean mcdee so can't wait
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  for that. I really appreciate your guys time tonight, General, Thank you
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  against salute to you man again. Justice General at JA seventeen MVP on Instagram
• 1:14:56
  and Twitter check him out again. UM, he's leading this thing over here,
• 1:15:00
  Buffalo fan base that we um simulcast on. And I'm just I'm grateful,
• 1:15:04
  DT is grateful or appreciative of your time and this opportunity on this platform,
• 1:15:10
  DT. Man, it's getting ready to get cranked up. Man.
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  I'm so excited. Thank you againting for tonight man, and and listen man,
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  please spread love not hate. These were my bill starts set out loud
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  here. Don't want to go bills, DT, He don't want to go
• 1:15:21
  bills. Job. We talk points tonight? Are we talking about point?
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  Ye go bills