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QUESTIONING The Challenger Disaster | Justin | We Are Change · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello friends, I'm your host, christrou I'm a former Brewmeries commando.
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  Speaker 1: I've adventured the better and sometimes worse across eighty countries
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  Speaker 1: on all seven confidents.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Port the t Shirt podcast. Hello legends,
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  Speaker 2: take a look at this.
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  Speaker 3: So this is all one day coincidence, No big deal.
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  Speaker 3: I think we all remember the Challenger explosion that took
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  Speaker 3: place in nineteen eighty six that tragically took the lives
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  Speaker 3: of all seven astronauts on board at launched, not too
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  Speaker 3: far from what we're standing here today. Well, the interesting
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  Speaker 3: thing is, a couple decades later, this thing called the
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  Speaker 3: Internet came about and someone allegedly found almost all of
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  Speaker 3: those astronauts alive. And well, now we all have a
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  Speaker 3: dappelganger out there, right, No big deal. But to have
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  Speaker 3: the same face, the same age, and the same exact
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  Speaker 3: name is extremely rare. So where I could only find
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  Speaker 3: one case in the last one and twenty years, and
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  Speaker 3: we're supposed to believe the three people from one spaceflight
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  Speaker 3: spaceflight have exact lookalikes that have the same age and
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  Speaker 3: same exact names.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go and meet this amazing gentlemen, justin how are
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  Speaker 2: you doing.
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  Speaker 3: My friend doing great. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolute pleasure. I don't know where to start
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  Speaker 2: except what I'm going to say. Friends, can you just
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  Speaker 2: lot of people unsubscribed from our channel, no surprise. And
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to get You're not going to come
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  Speaker 2: across the channel like this, I promise you.
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  Speaker 3: Justin yes.
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  Speaker 2: So, by the power of the Internet, I came across
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  Speaker 2: your clip where you were delivering the astronauts from the
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  Speaker 2: Challenger disaster are still alive speech and I smile because
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  Speaker 2: I came across this realization quite a few years ago now,
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  Speaker 2: when an absolutely brilliant video surface and somebody had broken
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  Speaker 2: everything and everything down, and then I saw yours and
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  Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, let's get this guy on the show.
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  Speaker 2: So without further ado, can you just I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know we are change. I know Luke Ridowski has been
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  Speaker 2: a strong voice for ever since. What I call those
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  Speaker 2: events in New York and Washington, the Magic Buildings, is
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  Speaker 2: that kind of like what you woke up? Are you
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  Speaker 2: friends with Luke?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of how I got started. Was. I
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  Speaker 3: stumbled into the rabbit hole in twenty twelve, and I
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  Speaker 3: found people like Luke Rodowski and David Ike and the
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  Speaker 3: other people who already had been at this for years,
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  Speaker 3: and they inspired me to go out there and start
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  Speaker 3: my own thing. So I got involved with the We
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  Speaker 3: Are Change Orlando, Florida chapter, and I just started to
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  Speaker 3: replicate what I had been seeing, you know, can fronting politicians,
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  Speaker 3: organizing protests, speaking at these county and city meetings, and
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  Speaker 3: just exposing the liars, holding their feet of the fire.
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  Speaker 3: And the rest is history. You know. Since then, I've
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  Speaker 3: worked on a number of health related issues, but I
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  Speaker 3: also really liked to expose what NASA is doing. And
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  Speaker 3: some of them were worldly events as well. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean not a lot of people know, but NASA
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  Speaker 2: was founded on the A coult because we couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: rockets into space.
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  Speaker 3: This was the thing.
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  Speaker 2: It was Jack Parsons, wasn't it that he you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a rocket scientist out there in the desert and
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't get a rocket into space. So he went
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  Speaker 2: to Alistair Crowley's Thelema, which was a sex and drugs
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  Speaker 2: magic cult, wondering if he could get the answer through
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  Speaker 2: the dark arts to make his dream country, which was
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  Speaker 2: to get a rocket into space, and that obviously morphed
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  Speaker 2: In laid it down the line into NASA. So it
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  Speaker 2: it's quite interesting that there's this whole site in that
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  Speaker 2: so that the public wouldn't wouldn't kind of get.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because I grew up thinking of them
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  Speaker 3: as just a space agency with you know, scientists and
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  Speaker 3: nerds working on things that I probably couldn't understand, and
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  Speaker 3: then you look into the origins and man, it gets
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  Speaker 3: dark quick. I mean, you talk about Operation paper Clip
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  Speaker 3: bringing over the Nazis. You know what NASA it means
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  Speaker 3: to means to deceive in Hebrew if you look it
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  Speaker 3: up under certain definitions, and then just you then you
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  Speaker 3: start to find the lies that they've told and you
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  Speaker 3: just really wonder, are they really a space agency? You know?
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  Speaker 3: I come to think of them as more of like
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  Speaker 3: an intelligence agency for the world, because they keep some
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  Speaker 3: of our biggest secrets. They're engaged in what seems to
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  Speaker 3: be some of the biggest psychological mind manipulation programs that
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  Speaker 3: we've ever seen. I mean, if if we're not really
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  Speaker 3: going to space, they've they've that's a pretty big trick,
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  Speaker 3: and they've pulled it on the world, not just America.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it has huge implications because, of course,
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  Speaker 2: says certain Elon Musk, that has to go along with
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  Speaker 2: that narrative because he's kind of pushing the same one
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  Speaker 2: and you know, sending Tesla's into.
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  Speaker 3: Just you know, he's a funny one because a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people got on board with him in the recent
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  Speaker 3: years because he bought Twitter and was a champion for
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  Speaker 3: free speech allegedly and all these things. But I was
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  Speaker 3: always like, I've known him as the guy working hand
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  Speaker 3: in him with NASA and the DoD to fake space
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  Speaker 3: travel in my opinion, so I don't know why we're
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  Speaker 3: trusting him. You know, it's cool if he wants to
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  Speaker 3: help expose certain topics. Twitter is better, I can't argue that.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're still in cahoots with those people and
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  Speaker 3: lying to us about you know, what's going on up there.
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  Speaker 3: I have my guard up on Elon always.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, justin did you ever see someone put a great
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  Speaker 2: video up on YouTube and what they'd done is they'd
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  Speaker 2: analyze when he first started doing that rocket booster thing
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  Speaker 2: that they fly selves back down to Earth and they
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  Speaker 2: land on the pods in the sea, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: rafts and sea. And this guy had realized the video
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  Speaker 2: feed that they were showing on each rocket boosters is
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  Speaker 2: it self brought self brought itself themselves down to earth.
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  Speaker 2: He realized it was the same video. They just slowed
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  Speaker 2: this one down by four seconds, right, thinking that they
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  Speaker 2: you know, and he put up this video exposing it, saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, how how would you like forget or
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  Speaker 2: accidentally have the same camera on both And what happened
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  Speaker 2: is overnight the video change, which you can't do on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: You know, anyone that's that's had anything to do with
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  Speaker 2: YouTube can tell you can edit bits out of a
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  Speaker 2: video when it's up on YouTube using the creator studio.
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  Speaker 2: You can't like re upload the same video. You either
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  Speaker 2: got to take it down, yeah, you know, and put
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  Speaker 2: a new one up. So this is the level of
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  Speaker 2: a deception. Is YouTube had allowed SpaceX to swap this
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  Speaker 2: video and when you watched the what watched it after
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  Speaker 2: this point? Suddenly it was a different video on this
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  Speaker 2: you know, on this other camera. Going back, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna ask you what was the thing that woke you up?
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  Speaker 2: And for me, it was that infamous building with the
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  Speaker 2: number seven referred to refer to, and me and my
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  Speaker 2: brother we watched just a whole load of stuff round
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  Speaker 2: about that era that it started to hit the internet,
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  Speaker 2: weird weird videos of the Pentagon missiles being carried out
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  Speaker 2: by you know, people that looked like Secret Service, just
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  Speaker 2: weird weird stuff. And my brother and I we would
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  Speaker 2: meet justin and we'd be like, nah, nah, they can't lie,
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  Speaker 2: they can't light. Oh yeah, Building seven, Yeah they have lights.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we just could not. It was the smoking
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  Speaker 2: gun that unless you had something mentally wrong with you,
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  Speaker 2: like you was so programmed in the matrix, you could
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  Speaker 2: not deny that that building went like that. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what was your kind of seminal moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned that event because I always
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  Speaker 3: joke with people that it took me ten years to
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  Speaker 3: look into nine to eleven, but it only took me
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  Speaker 3: about ten minutes to realize that we had been lied to,
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  Speaker 3: because once I saw the collapse of Building seven, I knew,
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  Speaker 3: but there have been people that had been at it
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  Speaker 3: a lot longer than me. It was just I had
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  Speaker 3: a relative send me a YouTube video about aliens, and
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  Speaker 3: I watched it, and the gentleman Stephen Greer was talking
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  Speaker 3: about aliens and government secrets, and the alien part was interesting,
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  Speaker 3: but it was the other stuff he started talking about
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  Speaker 3: when he started mentioning that there was this small elite
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  Speaker 3: group of people in the world. They controlled our banks
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  Speaker 3: and our money and all this. They planned the world wars.
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  Speaker 3: And I looked into the Federal Reserve Bank and the
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  Speaker 3: occult and all of this kind of overarching group and
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  Speaker 3: that's what sent me down the rabbit hole. And eventually
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  Speaker 3: you find, you know, what they're doing to our food,
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  Speaker 3: what happened to those magic buildings on that day, And
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the rabbit hole is just like wide
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  Speaker 3: open there for you. But in a strange way, it
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  Speaker 3: was like, you know, aliens led me to like the
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  Speaker 3: new world order in the Federal Reserve in Monsanto and
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  Speaker 3: nine to eleven, and then the rest is history.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's Stephen Greer, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Doctor Stephen Greer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've been looking at a lot of his
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  Speaker 2: stuff lately because a friend that I served in the
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  Speaker 2: Marines with is just brought out a book. He's a
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  Speaker 2: doctor now or a doctorate PhD. And he's brought out
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  Speaker 2: a book. Oh god, it's not UFO disclosure. It's got
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  Speaker 2: another name. I've got a Yeah, sorry, Mike, if you're watching, uh,
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  Speaker 2: just getting a bit gray, mate, And yeah we did.
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  Speaker 2: We did a podcast on it the other day. And
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  Speaker 2: do you think with with the UFO disclosure think it's
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  Speaker 2: almost like it's been taken in house by the quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote the government and the TV companies, and they're making
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  Speaker 2: these disclosure documentaries as though, hey, it's and it just
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  Speaker 2: smells like si olp more kind of so help bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: It does. And I've I've gone from the point of
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  Speaker 3: when I was a sheep or whatever, ignorant to everything
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  Speaker 3: I was probably you know, aliens probably aren't real. And
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  Speaker 3: then when you wake up, it's like, wow, it looks
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  Speaker 3: like they might be hiding aliens. But then the more
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  Speaker 3: you learn, I think a lot of it is them.
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  Speaker 3: While there might there could be aliens out there, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they come from space. They probably come from
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  Speaker 3: under the outer lands, being an Arctica or under the ocean.
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  Speaker 3: But this idea of them putting it in all the
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  Speaker 3: movies and all the books and shoving it down our throat,
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  Speaker 3: You're right, it's got cy opritten all over it, and
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  Speaker 3: it rings to me like when they get their backs
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  Speaker 3: put against the wall or they're using their final card,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to fake an alien invasion to try to
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  Speaker 3: regain that control. So that's possible, and I've always told
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  Speaker 3: people to keep their eye out for that. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you see stuff in the sky or they start
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  Speaker 3: pointing things in the media that something's coming, it's probably them.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably fear campaign just to get us back into check,
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  Speaker 3: just like with the medical nonsense as you call it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, So, going back then to those infamous events
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  Speaker 2: in New York and Washington, Lucky Larry springs to mind.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's probably the one of the more sort
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  Speaker 2: of puppets in the whole thing when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: the architects of that event, because he's just not that
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  Speaker 2: smart as he is an individual. He's got that thing
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  Speaker 2: where he just thinks he can gaslight people and they're
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  Speaker 2: just going to believe it when clearly like you're gas
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  Speaker 2: lighting us. Dude, I guess what I'm getting to is
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  Speaker 2: you familiar with the work of Christopher bull In.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I actually got to meet him and heard
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  Speaker 3: him speak in Florida one time. Yeah, about his book.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to tread diplomatically here because of the platform
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  Speaker 2: we're on, but he makes no bones in calling out
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  Speaker 2: a certain group of people behind it. So much so
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  Speaker 2: people of that eth no faith will stand up and
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  Speaker 2: walk out of his you know, they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: hear it, which is you know, kind of victim mode
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  Speaker 2: is oh no, could never be us. And what I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting at, and I don't mean to cause any offense
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  Speaker 2: to anyone out there, but clearly when you look at
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  Speaker 2: like you know, Larry Silverstein and Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: these guys have got something going on there, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not particularly when it's fucking dark, is what I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to say. So any scrutiny is well deserved. And I
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  Speaker 2: think I said this a lot, but you know, calling
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  Speaker 2: you a racial slur just because you you you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to go along with the historical narrative, is it?
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  Speaker 2: The beauty of it is. It's just it's not working anymore,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah, it's not working anymore. People are saying, no,
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  Speaker 2: fuck that, dude. You You've literally you've changed my life.
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  Speaker 2: You know, You've got all this Patriot Act bullshit. And
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  Speaker 2: and you members of your club are trying to put
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  Speaker 2: stuff into the bodies of me and my loved one
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  Speaker 2: so much so, I mean just me personally, four members
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  Speaker 2: of my family maimed for life right by them, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, fuck off you you excuse my swearing, folks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make the point that no, you
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  Speaker 2: don't call me like a racist because I question that
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. And I think it's so wonderful that that
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  Speaker 2: narrative that you know that that gaslighting doesn't work. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's cease to work now. And you know, love them,
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  Speaker 2: hate them, controlled opposite, what whatever. But the likes of
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  Speaker 2: Candy Sons and the Tucker Carlson's of the world just
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  Speaker 2: coming out now and questioning like the whole Israel siop thing,
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  Speaker 2: even if there might be something going on, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: certainly powerful to the point the point justin where I
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  Speaker 2: wonder is that another side, you know, are we supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be calling this bullshit out now? And And but
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  Speaker 2: my question to you is did you come to the
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  Speaker 2: same conclusion about nine to eleven that it's that it
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  Speaker 2: is this dark network?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, you first find out you're lied to and
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  Speaker 3: the Building seven, the Pentagon, the details. But when you
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  Speaker 3: read Christopher bull In's book, when you realize that who's
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  Speaker 3: who and who has it's it's kind of like the
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk event. You know, who has the motive and
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  Speaker 3: the means to stage a cover up with our intelligence
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  Speaker 3: agencies and with our police. There's only one group, and
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  Speaker 3: it's not the government in Australia. It's not the government
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  Speaker 3: of Ireland, it's not Zimbabwe. There's only one ally that
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  Speaker 3: helps us cover these things up. So it really and
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  Speaker 3: then you just look at how many times has net
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  Speaker 3: and Yahoo gone to Congress and sold us into wars,
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  Speaker 3: asking us to attack this Middle Eastern country and that
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  Speaker 3: Middle Eastern country on their behalf. It's clearly an agenda.
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  Speaker 3: The Greater Israel project is something I always point people
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  Speaker 3: to go look into. I mean, that's a plan to
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  Speaker 3: establish more control over the Middle East. And who can
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  Speaker 3: help them do that, well, the big military baseball bat
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  Speaker 3: of the United States government. So that's what that's all about.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm very I'm actually hopeful and very optimistic because
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  Speaker 3: since October seventh, since the way the Internet has worked
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  Speaker 3: in the last two years, Christopher Bolin has to feel
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  Speaker 3: quite vindicated of how many regular people on the left,
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  Speaker 3: the right, the middle that are just talking about who's
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  Speaker 3: really controlling our government and carrying out the events like
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  Speaker 3: nine to eleven. It's really everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I've been shocked actually in the last couple of years
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  Speaker 3: to see how much of the to the forefront it
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  Speaker 3: has come. I knew we'd get a lot of health
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  Speaker 3: related things exposed due to the medical nonsense and opening
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  Speaker 3: people's eyes to how we're being poisoned. But for this
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  Speaker 3: Israel topic to just get laid all the cards out
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  Speaker 3: on the table just almost overnight has been surreal and
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  Speaker 3: pretty rewarding because it needs to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And of course Israel goes back to the
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  Speaker 2: rough Childs with the English Balfour Declaration, which was completely unlawful,
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  Speaker 2: and it's been the kind of front company for the
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  Speaker 2: new world I'll call it the front company for the
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  Speaker 2: new new World Order. Yes, okay, let's let's move on
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  Speaker 2: back to the NASA thing then, because this is this friends,
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  Speaker 2: justin I should explain I'm looking over here because I've
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  Speaker 2: got my other screen up and I'm showing people at
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  Speaker 2: home there the respective you know, the respective videos and
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  Speaker 2: photos and stuff I've just been showing Chris Bolin. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this whole Challenger thing, it's I've seen people debunking the
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  Speaker 2: debunk as it were, saying, oh no, that you know
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  Speaker 2: they all died. And here's the thing, not only and
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  Speaker 2: friends at home, we will explain. I'm going to show
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  Speaker 2: a bit so you kind of get to know what
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about. But not only are they categorically the
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  Speaker 2: same people friends. If you're wondering, if you're knew to
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  Speaker 2: all this, this is the theory that these astronauts that
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  Speaker 2: we were all supposed to have seen, you know, vaporize
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  Speaker 2: or were still plunge to their deaths in the in
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  Speaker 2: the ocean, what would that that would be the the
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  Speaker 2: Atlantic Atlantic that they're actually all still alive. They the
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  Speaker 2: majority of them haven't even changed their names, and those
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  Speaker 2: that have have just adopted their middle name, which is
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  Speaker 2: like a couple of them like this chap here, Ronald
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  Speaker 2: McNair is just saying, oh no, I'm my twin twin
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  Speaker 2: twin brother. That some of them are still you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're just practicing their law practice or lecturing and university
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  Speaker 2: like like nothing, nothing, you know, like nothing they've got
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  Speaker 2: nothing to hide, which I guess before the days of
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  Speaker 2: the Internet they didn't because it was so hard to
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  Speaker 2: like trace these people. And why would you, Plus the
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  Speaker 2: fact that you know, it's not so in your face
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  Speaker 2: all the time, so you could just leave it a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks and then go back to you know anyway. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: So friends, you get you get what I'm kind of
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: getting at here. There's a whole you know, there's a
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: whole load of stuff going on here. This was the
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: so called Commander Dick Scobie. That's as he was back
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty six, and this is allegedly how he
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: is now. And like I say, it kind of goes
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: on and on.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I've seen people try to debunk the debunk and justin
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: and I don't think they're really very successful. I think
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you can kind of prove anything if you want to
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: sort of prove it, and it gets people are saying
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: that to us now. But how did you first come
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: across this?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I was already in the rabbit hole of NASA
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: and the moon landing things like that, and when you're
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: in that area, you come across people sharing information about
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: the challenger. And someone shared a video comparing these before
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and after photos, and I thought, no way, I'm going
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: to look this up. And I look it up, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: sure enough, Judith Resnik is right there teaching on the internet.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: So is Michael J. Smith. And you know a lot
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: of people would say, oh, well, this is just AI.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Well this AI wasn't a yet, this sprung about in
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. Okay, scratch that out. Well, these pictures could
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: be photoshopped or faked. Well two of them have been
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: confronted in real life, so the pictures aren't fake. And
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: then some people will say, oh, well, those don't really
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: look like them. Well, not only do ninety eight percent
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: of my comments in all these videos say that they
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: look alike. The guy who got confronted agrees they look alike.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, he flat out says that's what we looked
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: like back then, which is a strange thing to say
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: in of itself. Why are you saying we Why didn't
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: you say that's what he looked like or that's what
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I we sounds like you guys are the same people.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: So so the debunkers really don't have a leg to
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: stand on. I always say, go find me another set
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: of doppelgangers that have the same first and last name
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and are the same age. You cannot do it. You
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: can't do it. You might be able to find a
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Chris Thrall, but he definitely doesn't look just like you.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: He's not going to be the same height, have the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: same teeth. And how what if he lived in the
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: same part of the country and lived it was in
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: the same profession, like it would just be so and
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: then that's just one of the astronauts. Now three people
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: from your podcast team all have that same experience. It
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: would be so unbelievable. You know, actually did an experiment
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: with Chad Gpt on this and I asked them questions
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: about lookalikes and what the odds would be if I
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: ran into someone like that, And when I broke it
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: all down, it was basically like this, this is really
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: really like the odds are astronomical. And it even got
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: to the point it said, if this happens to you
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: may want to contact the authorities because someone may be
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: fraudulently taking your identity. Said, well, that's interesting, because you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: we've got a pretty solid case here with the Challenger crew.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And you felt so passionate about this. You took this
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to court can you explain to us that aren't so
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: familiar with the law, especially the law on your side
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of the pond?
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: What was all that about, yees? So it actually isn't court.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: It's actually just the county commission meeting room. So we
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: have the ability here to go to our county meetings
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: and speak for three minutes on whatever topic we would like,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: as long as it has relation to the county. So
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I chose the I already had gone in there to
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: talk about the ISS. The video went viral. Lots of
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: people were asking questions and were becoming aware of what
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: was going on with the ISS. So I thought, why
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: don't I go in there and ask them for help
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: about the challenger. It launched from that county, in that area.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I don't live too far from there. Maybe these people
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: can ask the federal government to help me reinvestigate this.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I mean they asked the federal government for help all
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: the time. So I went in there and brought this up,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: and unlike my ISS speech, I was not allowed to finish.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I was cut off halfway through by the chairman and
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: he said that this is not relevant to our board.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Remove this man from the room. He asked the police
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: to remove me. This caused the video to get one
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: hundred times more attention. I filed a lawsuit against the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: county based on First Amendment grounds. We ended up settling.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: They had to pay for what they did, and I
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: was allowed to go back in there and continue exposing
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: them for things like the murder of Gus Grit. But
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: you know, that's what happened. In a nutshell. I can
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: talk to you more about the presentation and whatnot. If
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: you notice, I only focus on three of the astronauts,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: the two brother the two that claim to be their
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: brothers or people think they're their brothers. I don't think
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: they're the strongest case. We could be incorrect about the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: McNair guy. But to me, when you look at Scoby
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: and Smith and Resnick, there's just no denying it. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: and you know, Francis Dick Scoby, Richard Scoby is not
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: a common name. Judith Resnik is not a common name.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: So it's just impossible to come across someone that has
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: the same slanted eye, the same cheek, the same teeth,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: same name, same age. But that's not you.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's just track back a bit then. The ISS
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you refer to the International Space Station Yeah, that's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: bizarre one. I say that simply because what year was
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that supposed to have been put up there?
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: In the eighties, I don't know the exact year.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of late. I thought it was
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: early nineties for some reason. But even still, that's that's
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: thirty six years ago. So they're expecting a contraption, let's
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: call it, that's thirty six years old. And if I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: understand this correctly, it has no protection from the sunlight
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: because you know, it's in direct contact that alone would
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: have rotted, would have burned out the window seals way
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: many many, many many years ago. And when they send
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: these astronauts up there, no, you know, no disrespect to people,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: but they look like the sort of people you wouldn't
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: trust to organize a barbecue, let alone like get out
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: there in a you know, on a spacewalk with a
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: wrench some you know, techno wizardry and replace solar panels.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And you know, they seem to be more intent on
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: spending their time them up there fucking around doing backflips
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and somersaults, all of which to me appear to be
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: either in a studio or on the airplane. You know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the anti gravity. In fact, I actually watched one interview
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: with two astronauts and one of them actually said, yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: well when we're on the plane, and it was almost
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: as though it slipped out. They could have been referring
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to their training, I suppose, But yeah, so that's kind
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of yeah, that's my thought. I mean, it's on the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: other hand, okay, over to you justin what do you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: think is up there, if anything at all?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, just to go back real quick to talk
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: about that ridiculousness that you described, I want to touch
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: on that because let's imagine you create a contraption in
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a metal box and you go set it outside and
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: hurricane force wins. That's eighty one hundred and twenty A
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: power wins. It's gonna mess it up. Now, let's leave
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: that hurricane out there for days and weeks and months,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: thirty six years. How badly beat up is that thing
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: going to be? So something from the eighties we just
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: threw up there is still just kicking along. Now, I
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: want you to crank that speed up to seventeen thousand,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: five hundred miles per hour. That's how fast they claim
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: that thing is going up there. Doesn't ever hit anything.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It hasn't fallen apart, it hasn't disintegrated. It's just doing aokay,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: like you said, they just go out there with that wrench.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: So when you really break down how fast it's going
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: in the science behind it, the melting temperatures of satellites,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: none of it makes any sense. I personally think it's
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: there's no people on a space lab up there, two
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty miles up on something the size of
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: a football field. They have an exact replica in a
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: NASA swimming pool basically the Neutral Buoyancy Lab they call
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: it in Houston, Texas, and they train underwater there with
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: a complete iss replica in their spacesuits. And it's my
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: belief in many others that they're filming down there and
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: then editing it to appear as if they're in space,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and the then that's just the exterior shot. So your
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: space walks are filmed underwater to show the weightlessness, to
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: appear weightless, and then the interior shots are just shot
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: in a studio on Earth. They never show the fourth wall.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they drop objects. What is it that a gravity pocket?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Just gravity didn't work for that moment or that spot.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: They've messed up too many times, you know, And I
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: always tell people nowadays, we have the Internet, we have YouTube.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: We can take their video, slow it down, rewind it,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: zoom in, and we can catch them getting caught in
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: their harnesses. We can catch them faking the footage. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I've always said, if you're really up there, you wouldn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: need to fake the footage and produce all this fakery.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: If I really had a corvette and I kept sending
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: you a photoshopped picture of me with the corvette, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: you kept saying, that's not real, and I kept sending
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: you a new one and it was still fake. Every time.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: You're never gonna believe me. Your credibility is shot. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: that's where we're at with NASA.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you've view it for a certain lens, it
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: just looks like it's such a money grab. But then
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: it's also holding society back hugely with this massive sy
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: op that people are that deluded that they think you
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: can visit other planets in a ting, can you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: chuck some fossil fuel or a variant of fossil fuel
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: in it, and off you go. And then maybe boyled
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Mikey here, he's going to put this baby into orbit,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and then Buzz and I, you know, after we've done
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: our free Masonic ritual, we're gonna we're going to jump
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: in that heap of shit there. You see, that complete
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: pile of crap that you wouldn't like trust to push
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: your kid down the street in it. Well, we're actually
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: going to get into that and we're going to go
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: over to that planet over there, right all in an
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: environment that we've never ever been in before or tested
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: in before. And then Buzz and I, we're going to land.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: You know, we're going to do the well, we're going
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to chuck a little hiccup in the landing just to
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: make make it, you know, all the more real. And
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: and Mikey's like, okay, guys, right, yes, so what do
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you what are you going to do when you get there?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: You're going to do some serious scientific study research, I
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: guess no, no, no, We're going to fuck around and
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: hit a golf boy and we're going to like burn
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: around dangerously in a car that could turn over any second,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: and you know, rip open our spacesuits and kill us all.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: It's it's silly, it really is. And to go on
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the first try with no issue and everybody made it
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: just fine. Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And the Gus Grissom thing, for people that aren't aware,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Gus was the guy that tried to blow this apart.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: He actually hung a lemon justin, didn't he on the
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: He hung a lemon on the module on the rocket,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And it was his way of saying, this whole project,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: this whole you know Apollo thing, it's there's no way
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: they're going to the moon. And then sadly him and
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: his crew all burnt to death in a in a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: in a in a training exercise. And even before his
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: widow was informed, the Secret Service had been to his
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: house and removed, removed, removed everything, you know, any any
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: kind of paperwork that might in which he may have
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: alleged that this was a crop of shit.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: So yes, yeah, and if you want to learn more
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: about that instance, that was once my lawsuit was settled.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: After the challenger, I went back and did a speech
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: on Gus Grissom, and I brought a lemon in memory
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: of him, and I hung it next to me and
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I gave the whole breakdown of what happened with him.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, just sorry, just showing friends at home. Gus is
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the chap on on the on the left folks. Yes,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: so amazing. We we've covered a lot. Let's just move
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: on to some more contemporary stuff, justin if I may.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: What's your whole view on the A lot of people
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: when you have a YouTube channel, you hear the term
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: control opposition all the time. Not so much. I don't
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: get it sort of aimed at me because I'm quite
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: a genuine person. I have to be really, I'd have
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: to be a really rubbish controlled opposition.
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• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But I see people calling like my friend David David Ike,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, look, you don't get it. He's actually
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: a really nice guy. He's probably one of the more
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: genuine people that you're gonna meet. His sons are really
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: nice too. They when they get called this that they
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: laugh at it because it's just like a family.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: He's not a freemason. He's not getting paid by the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: cobaw not unless you know something I don't know. And
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: but what I say is is when you hear people online,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: content creators, speakers, they can't talk about everything that's on
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: their mind because of the way the whole narrative is
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: set up on these platforms. They have rules you can't
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you know, as David found out to his cost incidentally.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And I guess what I'm trying to say is it's
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a controlled opposition is bandied around a lot in the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: way that like all these individuals are getting sort of
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: some kick back from the cabal, whereas in reality it's okay.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Take Alex Younges as an example. He seems to have
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: done a complete river since the whole school thing I'm
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: not going to say the name of it, but you
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: know when things went things went bang bang bang in
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: school and he very rightly called it out. I say
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: that because I watched two documentaries on it, and oh
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: my god, talk about a story. Was so many holes
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: in that yeah, and that rose In guy. There's always
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: there's always an Ashkenazi individual that pops up at a
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: weird moment in you know, whether that was Jack Ruby
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: rose In or whatever his name was in that one.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And the recent Charlie incident, who was the guy that
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: got up and dropped his pants and the police were
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: just distracted, and who was the guy asking the question
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: as Carlie as Charlie was taking out You know, this
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: is called noticing friends. I'm just saying, don't you know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying what you can see with your eyes too.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And so getting back to the control thing, there's a
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: lot of reasons why people can appear control that are
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: not with Alex. My mind struggles to get my head
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: around that. Is it because he lost so much in
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: his advertising revenue because so many people dropped him and
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: he lost his YouTube or or is it that you
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: know that they've got something on him that's made him.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: He's just embarrassing himself now, justin don't you think?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah? And I'm I've got a kind of an unpopular
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: opinion with the whole controlled opposition thing because I've been
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: doing this now for almost twelve thirteen years, and I've
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: gotten to meet a lot of these people like you're, David,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Iike's in the ones in America, and I've come to
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: realize that nine times out of ten, most people just
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: have disagree ego problems, jealousy problems. That person's not talking
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: about what I want them to talk about, controlled opposition.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: That person's not doing activism the way I would do it,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: controlled opposition. They won't say this enough, they won't do
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: that enough. They're too popular. They now have a show,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: and they're not getting censored. As much as I think
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: they should be controlled opposition. I think that is thrown
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: around so much and it's just such a it's honestly,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: you know what's more distracting than the alleged controlled opposition
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: people are the people telling me they're controlled opposition. Russell
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: brand At, Candace Owens, Tucker, Carlson Tucker and Candace in
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: their later days more recently, they all inspire me. RFK Junior,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: David Ike, Alex Jones has inspired me many times. He's
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: also disappointed me when he threw Wolfgang under the bus
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: over that school event, when he has you know, defended
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Trump and Elon at times. I don't know what's going
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: on with Alex. He's kind of the X factor. We'll
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: set him over there. He could be the anomaly, but
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: most everyone else is not controlled opposition. In my opinion,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I think they're all real people that all have are
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: at a different part of their journey. Because we've got
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: people so far in the rabbit hole. It's like, oh,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: if you're not talking about viruses and NASA, then you're
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: a shill. Well, I I didn't know about that stuff
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: in my early years. Was I a shill? No? I
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: just didn't get it yet. So I really think it
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: gets thrown around too much, and I think it causes
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: so much doubt and confusion and division in our own movement.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know people that dedicate their entire online
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: time to trying to tear down leaders in our movement,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Adell big Tree or a David Ike, and they spend
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: all day showing these pictures of them, whether it's supposed
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: triangle or with one eye covered and just stringing together,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: and some of that stuff is real. It's really out there.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But I think all the accusations of people in our
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: own movement are off base, damaging, and I just tell people, go,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I'll touch some grass, Go meet these people, go to
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: the conference and talk to them. When you meet their
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: wife and you meet their kids, like you say, you
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: come to realize these people are just like me. They're
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: just at a different point of their journey. And just
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: because Ian Carroll got popular overnight doesn't make him a shill.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: He does great work and he hit TikTok at the
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: right time. So I always and at the end of
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: the day, what am I gonna do tear all these
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: people down? Or what if they're right or what if
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: we're wrong about doing that? I could have been working
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: with them to bring down the New World Order, but
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: instead I'm sitting over here arguing about what Russell Brand
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: really thinks. I think that is a complete waste of
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: time and a distraction. And whoever's controlled op so be it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I'm still getting up tomorrow and gonna keep on the
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: same journey, the same path to end the corruption, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I'll expose someone if you've got a document that says
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: they've been getting paid by the cabal. But how many
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: people have turned out to be proven controlled opposition shills
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: in the end? How many? I mean, we're doing this
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a long time. David Ike's still legit. Ron Paul still
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a legend in most people's regard. I mean, I just
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: don't buy into that whole controlled op thing too much.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only person there that you mentioned a certain
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I don't like to kind of attack people by name
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I do like to just use examples.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: But well that what I'm feeling.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, of course it is. I don't know if
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: you you probably wouldn't have seen this so much justin
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: although you might. But we held the Olympic Games here
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: in London and they had one of these ridiculously kebaw
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Illuminati opening ceremonies, just like your Super Bowl halftime has
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: become where they're so ridiculously obviously a either pushing a
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: narrative or be pushing Satanism. Yep, an our one. It
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: was so bearing mind, this was prior to the medical nonsense.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: They actually had a little a black character who who
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: was Who's the euphemism for the little spiky bastard that's
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: supposed to jump from one person into another. Oh okay,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: you know, except it begins with the Except no one
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: believes that bullshit anymore. They're starting to realize, No, actually,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I'm responsible for my own wellbeing, aren't I? I other
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: people can't like affect me, which I'm like that, yes
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: when I hear that, because that the whole medical thing
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: is such a combo cabal strong point. They've got everybody
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: in victim mode on their health. You know, I don't
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: have to do anything. I drink a bucket of coffee
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and drink ten punts, you know, ten gallons of beer
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: every night because it's you know, Steve over there has
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: made me sick. It's like, oh, well that's how your
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: health works, now, is it you?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: You?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Anyway? Sorry, I had to get that in there, just
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: because I'm just over the moon that people are no
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: longer falling for that scam. You know, that's such superstitious bullshit.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: And so they had this little black I call it
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the little the spiky but you know, they had this
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: character and he's floating around hospital beds, and the whole
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: skit was based on our NHS system because we have
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: a health service here. It's not the health service that
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: you guys probably think it is now. It's kind of
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: so heavily overloaded with all the illegal immigration, such backlog
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: because of the medical nonsense that you go, even if
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you arrive for your appointment on time, you're probably not
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: going to see a doctor for you know, anything up
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: to four or five hours. Right, Yeah, it's but anyway,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: there was that in amongst all this craziness, they brought
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: out a bus and it was a bus and it
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: was full of like spiritual, kind of a bit hippy
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: ish characters that were all locked into this bus, like
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the film Chitty Chitty Bang Bang when they had the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: childcatcher who catches the kids and you know, tempts them
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: with the lollipops, and they locked some in his in
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: his you know, his caravan, his cage on wheels basically.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: So anyway, this bus, all the hippie dippy types were
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: locked inside, going like yo, we can't get out. And
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Russell Brown was playing the childcatcher on the top of
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the book. This is out after he brought out a
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: book called The Pied Piper, you know, based on the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: story of the Pied Piper leading, Yeah, I'm probably not
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: doing this justice anyway. That was just all a bit
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you know, it was just all a bit weird. And
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the thing was, Russell was right into his meditation and
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: his Eastern mysticism, which is right up my street because
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: for me, you know, my favorite thing that was decoding
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: scripture and learning about the sacred secretion and the Christos
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and you know, all of this stuff that was hidden
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: from us because we church don't know any of this
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: stuff right anyway, So Russell's doing and all that, and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: you know, he was this lovey dovey character, full of
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: love and and then of course he's had all these sorry,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: he's had all these allegations leveled at him and they're
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: very extremely serious of a sexual nature. And then what
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: did he do. He went out and become a born
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: again Christian in the actual, you know, true sense of
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the word sort of thing. And I'm not here, I'm
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: not knocking Christianity or whatever. What I'm saying is you
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: can't go from Eastern mysticism realizing that the Christos is
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the sacred secretion that takes place every month in your body,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and Jesus was the allegory the thirty three years of
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: his life represent the you know, the thirty three vertebra
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: of your spine, that this magic substance travels up and down.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: You can't like like know that and then kind of
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: like I know it and go to organize.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, Yeah, I'm not
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: too and I'm not too familiar with I don't I
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: was never brought up spiritually and don't have much of
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: it of knowledge in that area. So if anything that
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: he's doing on that front, you're right, I'm not very
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: privy to. But yeah, that is interesting.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: The reason I'm so hot on it justin is that
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: this is how the Cabal, the Dark Network, whatever we're
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: going to call them. This is how they've got people.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: They're keeping people in a low energy state, and very
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: often they don't care about the freedom movement, because what
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: does the freedom movement do? Ninety nine point nine percent
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: of the time, friggin argues with each other, and it
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: calls people names, and it calls them controlled, and it
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: tries to drag because it's it's people that are that
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: they're awake, but they haven't stepped into into the new
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: consciousness or whatever we're going to refer to it, which
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: is when you start to think in terms of energy,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: frequency and vibration. So I'm mentioning this to you because
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: you're obviously incredibly dedicated individual, and this is how they're
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: getting people. They want people to think, this is about
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: the government aligned to us, and you know, if we
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: can change the president, everything's gonna be you know, then
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: just they're playing people by their energy and keeping people
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: in fear. And yeah, so.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: That's what's that's that's what's so important. I think you
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: bring a good point about going the full, doing the
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: whole thing. You can't just do half and say, Okay,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: the government's corrupt, they're lying and then go back to
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: eating the rito's and watching television and not doing anything
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: about it. You got to take back your health. You
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: have to take back your mind. So, like I always
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: tell people, the first two things I did was turn
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: off the TV and stop poisoning myself. No more vaccinations,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: no more fluoride, no more. I'm sorry about that. I
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: just said the bad word. No no more of putting
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: the poisons into your body, and no more to poisoning
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: your mind with the mainstream media and all the narratives.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: But then there's the next step. You can't just know
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: those things and then sit on the internet all day
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: and post memes about how evil the government is until
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: the day you die. You have to you have to
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: accept that, raise the awareness where you see fit. But
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: then you have to take matters into your own hands
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: and look within. Is everything going on right with you
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: and your life and your family. Have you sort of
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: worked out your own demons and your own problems? Because
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: if we're just telling the whole world is corrupt and
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: telling them that everyone's bad, but we haven't worked on ourselves,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: what's the point When I started eating healthier and showing
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: up to work with that healthy lunch instead of eating
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: out of the fry basket today, and the guys are like, hey,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: what do you got there? Why are you not well?
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: You know this and that? Well, how come your well?
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Do you know about genetically modified organisms? And round up?
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: And then so like, leading by example and changing your
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: health and opting out of these systems is way better
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: than arguing with people on the internet, endorsing a new politician,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: changing your party, I mean, just opt out of all
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: of it. I do still believe in like a little
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: bit of local participation because I think my mayor and
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: my city council member is very easy to reach, and
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I can actually control some of what they do. But
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the federal government, your presidents and
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: your prime ministers, you need to just abandon and opt
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: out of all of that, expose them to all hand,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: and then remove yourself. Don't buy what they're selling anymore.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Perfect absolutely perfectly put thank you, And so final thing,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: justin Charlie Kirk, I had to kind of like pinch
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: myself a bit because when he got shot, this weird
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: thing happened. Suddenly there was this massive outpouring of grief
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm getting sent like videos and posts and getting
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: tagged into and I just thought, hang on a sec,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know about this. I've never heard of
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: him before. I don't know if that's because I'm English
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and he's an American and he's big in like I thought,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: am I supposed to be really upset over this guy
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: that I, you know, is tragic what happened or what allegedly,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I don't really know what happened. But suddenly I'm getting
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: sent these anger videos by people. This is just and
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, did you really like even know this guy?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Because I had no I wondered if it was just
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: some almost like a theaterist sketch that had been put
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: together with total actors, which probably isn't far from the truth,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: because like I'd never heard of him. It was it
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: was it was like his character appeared in my life
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: that was supposed to be so important and so into
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: all this and anyway, that's maybe just me, but I'd.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Say there's there's probably two reasons why, and I let
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: me take a guess at it. One, as you're where
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: you're at right, You're not in America, so he's not
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: a controversial figure in your country. But your sounds like
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: you're pretty deep in the rabbit hole, and you've been
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: into this stuff for a few years now or more
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: than that. Why would divisive political culture war guy be
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: on your radar? I mean, I didn't follow any Charlie
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Kirk accounts. I knew who he was, but I had
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: because of the medical nonsense. When I went out to
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: fight for my freedom. Who was with me mostly conservatives,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: So I became closer with a lot of conservatives. Their
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: circles leaked into my circle. So I did see a
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: little bit of Charlie Kirk here in there. But you're right.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Without that, if I was still over in my like
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: only with the libertarians and the conspiracy people and the
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: medical nonsense had not happened, I may have been like,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: who is he again? I may have to like look
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: him up to see who he was, But I barely
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: knew about him, so I would assume that's probably why.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: But you're right, it was interesting how them televising that
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: connected the whole world to that tragedy, just like many
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: other tragedies we've seen that are also psyops.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Are you into the kind of numerology.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: No, not so much. I've never really known a lot
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: about that and spent a lot of time on it.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm not as sort of you know, some
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: people will come up with the jumacho on every single
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: thing in an event and point out all the coincidences
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: in the number forty eight in And I'm not saying
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: they're wrong or anything. I just I haven't got that
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: much time in my life to same. But I'm definitely
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: up on the thirty three signature code, which seems to
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: be I mean, it's ridiculous. Every other news event in
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the UK, it's like, hey, folks were getting thirty three
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: days of snow coming, and then it's yes, this guy
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: served in office for thirty three days. And then then
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: of course there was the capturing Charlie Kirk shooter in
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: thirty three hours, and then there was the I'm just
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: gonna move us up the screen here. Then there was
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: the Baseball Caps prominent in the press release photo of
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Charlie when he was sat just before he was shot.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: And it's forty seven, forty seven and forty seven, So
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: eleven eleven, eleven three, eleven, thirty three. Yeah, just yeah,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to get you your take on that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect everyone's probably gone into this to the
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: lengths that I have.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually got to visit the site because I
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: had the opportunity to go to Utah about a month
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: or so after it happened, so I got to walk
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: around and check it out, you know, not that that
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: changed my mind in any way. It was just nice
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: to get a feel for the scene. I obviously, like
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: many people who are have a critical mind, do not
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: believe that it was Tyler Robinson, the loan shooter. It
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: appears now that we're a few months in that it
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: doesn't look like he was shot. It looks like he
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: was more than likely hit by some sort of exploding
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: device under his shirt. Maybe it wasn't even supposed to
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: hit his neck, and that's what really messed up their
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: narrative of a thirty odd six going just his neck
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: stopping a bullet like that, which is just ridiculous. So
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: I think the narrative is kind of unraveling before them,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: and they're trying to keep it together. Candae Owens appears
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: to be the only friend and person in America with
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: enough of a platform to keep a light on this issue.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: So I'm grateful for her work, and I've just been
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: watching it closely because this is the first time we've
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: had the internet and video, you know, with JFK zapruder film,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: right that's it, and people can't take that and download
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: it the next day after it happens and watch everything.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've been analyzing what every single person's doing
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: in the crowd. So I think this is going to
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: be the first time. I don't know how it's going
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: to play out, but I have a little more optimism
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: that we may know the truth sooner than all these
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: other events. Not saying it would get admitted and accountability
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: will happen, but I think there will be more of
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: a mass public awareness about what really happened, and it
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: won't take ten, twenty thirty forty years like it did
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: with JFK.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's just a simple enough case that
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: you know he'd done a complete reversal on Instagram.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. And I and whether it was him,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: whether it was just that or the fact that he
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: was thwarting war with Iran Iran through influencing Trump, I
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: don't know, but it seems like there were a lot
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: of factors, from letting Tucker Carlson let loose on Israel
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: at his conference to turning on them, to helping stop
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: intervention in Iran. This is just it really look like it.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: He was getting pressured. They had final meetings with him.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: He was texting people that they are they are going
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: to kill me. And he clearly wasn't talking about some
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: you know trainy furry there was there was following him around.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: It was definitely, you know, our greatest style.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I most likely Yeah, I'm just while you're talking, I
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: put some lines. You know, the little amphitheater where he
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: was shot. I don't know the name for that you've
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: obviously I saw. I watched your video. By the way
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: of view, it must have been quite bizarre to see
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the angle of the shooter and or a led shooter. Yeah,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: but I put some lines on the on the the
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: angles the corner angles of that. It's like a pentagram
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: type type shape, and it makes the bapher met.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Well, and it's at the top of like a minora shape,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: isn't it well?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Like that was the other thing I was gonna say,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: bat baha met or all or the manora the isn't
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: it weird? Like the whole circus that unfolded with his
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: wife and old what's his name is it, Ben Shapiro, Yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: who's just not really a friend to any American, you know.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I have to say it, like his feet are firmly
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: under the table with another country and he's just playing
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: playing your wonderful people, you know. And how quick were
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: they to all like move into it?
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Turning point?
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Turning point. I mean they were within twenty four
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: to forty eight hours talking about replacing him and carrying
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: on this thing, and it was just move on so fast.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: This is the guy who did it. Don't ask questions,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: all right, let's talk about the future. I mean, even
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: the wife, she's just a few days later, she's on
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: zoom calls bragging about how much money they made and
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: how many sign ups they got. I mean, because I
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: had to watch someone get what look like publicly executed
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: on livestream, I mean I was a little taken back.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: I remember I was about to go in grocery store
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: and I saw the video and I sat there for
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: a few minutes, like, wow, this is like pretty heavy stuff.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know the guy. And to see her
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: on those zoom calls chuckling and talking about revenue was wild. Like,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not trying to make any allegations, but
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: every day that goes on, she becomes more of a
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: suspect than the cover up.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with them sparkly pants and the fireworks and it's yeah,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: it's I mean, actress definitely comes to them. I mean,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: this is what we're seeing is an act clearly, because
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: if my well, Heaven forbid. But you know, if this
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: happened to someone close to you, you just want the
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: public just get that get away from me. I need privacy,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I need to be with my children, we need to heal.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: It's like she didn't even make any pretense that she's
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: fucking delighted about about you know, and.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: She literally said that her husband was probably dancing around
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: up in heaven, dancing wide. They'll never see his children again.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: It's just so bizarre. I mean, she hasn't even been
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: with the children. She's been on Fox News and on
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: podcasts and on zoom calls and allegedly at the company
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: just days after, so there was no fetal position and
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: watching the children. I mean, if your husband or wife
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: was just taken out publicly and you appear to be targets,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine just leaving your children with
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: other people for the next week, the next month.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, incredibly strange. And also her mother something, you know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: she's involved in all these kind of techie futuristic something
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: just doesn't ring.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it's just like Judith Resnik's father from The Challenger.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Remember when I looked into her father. Her father's former
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: military intelligence, thirty second degree freemason, part of the Temple
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: of Israel. I mean, it's one thing that you're kind
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: of involved in something strange, But when I find out
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: your parents are involved in military and telligence, we have
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: so many more red flags that have just gone up.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it exactly.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: I mean people can be involved with the government. I
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: used to sell paper and pencils to the federal government
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: for a couple of years, but that shouldn't throw up
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: red flags. But if I was involved in military intelligence
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: and then I became like something, I would hope everyone
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: would look into everything, my parents, past history, all this stuff.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: But no, God forbid. It's a grieving windows, grieving widows,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: so it's off limits. Yeah, minus the grieving.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And they yeah, this whole crying thing when no tears
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: come out, it's just you think they would have learned
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: by now. Just don't do it. Just don't pretend to
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: cry the public now now that tears are supposed to
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: come out of your eyes when you do that thing. Yes,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: justin listen, my friend. This has been absolutely brilliant chat.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's always great to exchange, you know,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: exchange ideas and information.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I feel for you guys so much, because I say
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: this quite a lot on my podcast. Americans have got
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: to be the kindest, nicest, most generous people on the planet.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Not everyone obviously, of course, but I mean you know,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: they've always felt like my family across the pond to me.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I've been in the States on several times, and you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: just such kind and genuine, well meaning people, and it's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: such a shame that so many of your country focus
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: so well meaning they can't see the infiltration that's taken
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: place and all this beautiful thing that you had. You've
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: got a wonderful constitution, you know, you've got an incredible history,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: and to see that, you know, they're playing you by
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: your patriotism, aren't they. You know, they're playing you on
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: the one thing that you should be so proud of,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: that's and they're doing the same here. We've got this
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: right wing they branded we've got this whole nationalism thing.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Like everyone's branding themselves now as Christian crusaders, and it's
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: it's like, guys, you're they're controlling you. They want that,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: they want division. That's exactly they want you to adopt
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: a mainstream religion because that's what they invented mainstream religion for.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: This is the whole Catholic Church thing. When the Empires
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: pulled back, they left the church to control the people.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I just want to say just and I wish,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: wish you all the best over there.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: You know, well, thank you. I appreciate that, and you
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: know it is a shame because it's it's it's what
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: I go back to, is there so many well meaning
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: people like I've got to meet, whether it be the enemy,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: the people on the other side of the argument. You
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: when you talk to them and you ask them these
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: questions and they give you that deer in headlights, look
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: you go, my goodness, this person has no idea. They
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: just believe all the lives. So we have so many
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: well meaning people. But that gives me optimism that there's
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: enough well meaning people that once they see the light,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: the cat doesn't go back in the bag. Pandora's box
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: has been open. Once you're awake, you don't typically go
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: back to sheep. So that gives me hope. So we've
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: just got to get these people awake and aware, and
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: thank you for having me on and giving us the
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: ability to reach more people and do just that.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. That that would make a great T shirt.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Never go full sheep.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, justin listen.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: If you've got time, stay on the line so I
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: can thank you properly. I've got about a minute to
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: play us out if you if you need to disappear,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: that's if I don't see you after this, then then okay,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: that's absolutely fine. We can email each other or whatever.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: But just to say massive thank you for coming on
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: the show. Friends at home, I hope you enjoyed that
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: as much as I have. If I can just give
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: a shout out please to my upcoming Mount Everest summit,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: So I will be summitting Mount Everest probably I might
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: even be on the expedition when you watch this video,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm doing so because nobody is talking about the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: link between childhood trauma and the suicide statistics we see
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: in the veterans community. Everyone's making out that PTSD is
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: just this like Johnny Rambo kind of scenario. And I'm
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: here to say, yes that plays that can play a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: role in complex PTSD. But there's a lot of people
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: taking their own lives and they haven't even been in combat.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: So why is it? We should be asking why is that?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: And I would wager it's unhealed childhood trauma that comes
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: back to haunt us in later lives. So if you
• 1:00:36
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