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INTERVIEW: Ed Lover On The Evolution Of Radio, Biggie & 2Pac's Friendship, Yo! MTV Raps, Movie Roles + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious,
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  Speaker 2: Charlamage the God we are the Breakfast Club. Jess is
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  Speaker 2: on maternity leave, so Laura la Ross filling in and
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  Speaker 2: we got a special guest in the building and love
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  Speaker 2: of ladies and gent.
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  Speaker 1: For yourself.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, Absolutely, no legend.
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  Speaker 1: I can't complain. Brother. Everything is good.
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  Speaker 4: The kids are good, the wife is good, the family's good,
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  Speaker 4: the grandkids is good, the tour is good.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: That's all that matter. That's right for most that don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Ed Lovell was the first celebrity I ever met. You're
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  Speaker 2: from the same hood, so I'm it's from the same hood,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm from Queen's. Edits from Queens And I used
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  Speaker 2: to go to the school called Saint Joe cominan uh
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  Speaker 2: and across from that school, Ed Lovers, one of your
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  Speaker 2: kids went to PS thirty four.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Ed was.
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  Speaker 2: Dropping his kid off and Ed would have to walk
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  Speaker 2: through the park where we would play in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: and that was my first time meeting a celebrity. And
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  Speaker 2: Ed would walk through the park to drop his kids
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  Speaker 2: off and talk to all the kids out and about,
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  Speaker 2: And that was the first opportunity of meeting a celebrity
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  Speaker 2: and seeing how cool a celebrity was, and me thinking
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  Speaker 2: that every celebrity was that cool. But then when you
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  Speaker 2: get in this industry, you realize not that celebrity is
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  Speaker 2: not that cold. But that was my first time meeting
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  Speaker 2: Ed Lover and the influence of learning what he did
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  Speaker 2: when he was hosting MTV, to the radio, to all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. But that was my first influence of how
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  Speaker 2: a celebrity is just sitting there and stopping and talking
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  Speaker 2: to the kids. How much that can do to you.
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  Speaker 3: So who did that for you?
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  Speaker 1: Who did everybody? Running them?
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  Speaker 4: You know running I lived four blocks away from jam
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  Speaker 4: Master Jow, so running them did that for me. Ll
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  Speaker 4: used to stop by when I was in high school.
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  Speaker 4: Security officer stopped buy in front of the school, pull
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  Speaker 4: up in the drop top of holler at me and
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff. So it was those cats that really
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  Speaker 4: like because they're from Queens and Queens we were like
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  Speaker 4: the forgotten Burrow and hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: When hip hop was blowing up, it.
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  Speaker 4: Was like, y'all from the desert, y'all are corny, y'all
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  Speaker 4: live all the way out there. So those cats were
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  Speaker 4: the ones that really kind of gave me the influence
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  Speaker 4: to let me know that I can do something in
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  Speaker 4: hip hop. Up to l actually made me put the
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  Speaker 4: microphone down. I was an m C before that. I
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  Speaker 4: was m eddy D back in the day. Remember everybody
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  Speaker 4: had a d D. Didn't even mean nothing made you
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  Speaker 4: put it down that nice. When I heard LKA, I
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  Speaker 4: knew I was not that nice. Now running them, I
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  Speaker 4: figured I can hang because I used to be in
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  Speaker 4: the park Park thirty four Park, just slaying cats on
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  Speaker 4: the mic. When I heard that little fifteen year old dude,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, nah, I gotta figure out a different
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  Speaker 4: way to get in the tip. Honest absolutely, that's the
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  Speaker 4: first thing. But I was a trumpet player before that,
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  Speaker 4: so that's you know. I was in the Top forty
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  Speaker 4: band from the time I was a kid playing trumpet.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why what I'm doing right now ed Lover
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  Speaker 4: Presents the Live Mix Tape Band is full circle for
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  Speaker 4: me because it's back.
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  Speaker 1: With being with a band again.
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  Speaker 5: So music has always been Music has always.
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  Speaker 4: Been my entire life, and your top forty band is
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  Speaker 4: when you play everything that's on the radio at the
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  Speaker 4: time all that Iley Brothers, but between the sheets and all,
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  Speaker 4: we used to play all of that, and we were
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  Speaker 4: one of the youngest bands in New York City back
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  Speaker 4: in when every little bar had a band and a DJ.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Do you remember the first time you heard LLL. I'm
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  Speaker 6: sure it was before records.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the first time I heard ll I think it.
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  Speaker 4: Was on Farmers Boulevard in one of those parks over there,
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  Speaker 4: and he was on the mic. He was about thirteen,
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  Speaker 4: fourteen years old, and he was a monster at that time.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: So by the time you know, he got signed, it
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  Speaker 4: was a rat for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: How did you get into radio in hosting?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Because it wasn't a job that people really thought that
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  Speaker 2: they could get right. It was just something that we've
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  Speaker 2: seen and people were in that business for forty years.
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  Speaker 2: What said I can do that? Because you were the
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  Speaker 2: originator really of the urban radio.
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  Speaker 1: Thing, I wouldn't say that.
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  Speaker 4: I would say it Frankie Krocker. Fred Buggs was a
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  Speaker 4: mentor to me to this day. Those cats that I
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  Speaker 4: used to listen to, Chuck Lennon and all of them, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Lenny Green, pick Up, Lindy Green, Green Green, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that too, but Lindy Green too, and you know.
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  Speaker 3: Von Harper Gone.
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  Speaker 4: You know, those are the cats that they paved the
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  Speaker 4: way for me. But what I decided to do once
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  Speaker 4: we got the opportunity to jump on the radio is
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  Speaker 4: to be my authentic self. Because I remember meeting and
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  Speaker 4: this is no shade on Chuck Lennon, but the way
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  Speaker 4: he sounded in person is not the way he sounded
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  Speaker 4: on the radio. So when I got my opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: be on the radio, I was like, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 4: be my authentic self and be exactly who I am
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  Speaker 4: and use my voice and what I wanted to say
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  Speaker 4: that opportunity come.
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  Speaker 1: It came from you on.
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  Speaker 4: TV rats because they were flipping Hot ninety seven from
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  Speaker 4: a dance station into all hip hop stations.
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  Speaker 1: So the late Steve.
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  Speaker 4: Smith, god rest his soul, came down and said we
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  Speaker 4: needed some people that's authentic and respected and hip hop
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  Speaker 4: and gave Dray and I opportunity, and I said, hell no,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, am I doing no radio get up
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  Speaker 4: at five o'clock in.
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  Speaker 1: The morning and be an I ain't doing that.
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  Speaker 4: And then my manager at the time, Charlie Steller, wrote
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  Speaker 4: down on a piece of paper.
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  Speaker 1: But Howard Stern was making every year, and it was like, if.
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  Speaker 4: You could get almost that good, I could guarantee you
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  Speaker 4: I could get you a lot of that.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, that's the money that people make
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  Speaker 1: on the rail, let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: How much was at that time Howard Stern have would
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  Speaker 4: probably making four or five million dollars a year?
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  Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think because the nineties, do you think early
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  Speaker 2: people respect urban radio like they do some of those
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  Speaker 2: other places, Like you look at some of the numbers
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  Speaker 2: that these white guys making this pop radio, right and
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  Speaker 2: you're talking, I mean I think how it makes ninety
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  Speaker 2: million or something like that. Satellite still though he was
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  Speaker 2: he was making dollars a year on terrestrial radio. So
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  Speaker 2: do you think that they respect them. Why don't you
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  Speaker 2: think they respect the urban because they.
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  Speaker 4: Put us in a box, man, And that's the thing
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  Speaker 4: that that kills me about it. Like they will absolutely
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  Speaker 4: some of these companies will put you in a box
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  Speaker 4: that say all you could do is urban radio.
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  Speaker 1: But they won't do that to somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: Like a lot of the black program directors and what
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  Speaker 4: they call brand managers now, they put them in the
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  Speaker 4: urban box, like they can't program.
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  Speaker 1: A different station, or like, all you guys know is this.
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  Speaker 4: This is not all we know. We know a lot
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  Speaker 4: of things. I know a lot about country music. I
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  Speaker 4: know a lot about sports. I was off of the
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  Speaker 4: job in Atlanta on sports radio because I'm a sports fanatic.
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  Speaker 4: But they put us in the box and won't let
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  Speaker 4: us do other things. But you take a white PD
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  Speaker 4: or somebody like that, they'll let them. They'll let them
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  Speaker 4: program a black radio station when they didn't even grow
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  Speaker 4: up in this music before. They give us the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to even make that leap from being on air to programmer.
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  Speaker 4: They'll take a white dude and let him program a
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  Speaker 4: black radio station, but won't take a black dude who
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  Speaker 4: has program in history and success and let him program
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  Speaker 4: a country station. It's all programming. What's the difference. So
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  Speaker 4: they put us in this box that we urban. Urban
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  Speaker 4: is a nice way of saying black, and you can't
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  Speaker 4: get out of the box.
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  Speaker 6: But that's why, you know, as a personality, I always
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  Speaker 6: say like you have to diversify your guests, Like whatever
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  Speaker 6: your interest on, if you're into comic books, politics, movies,
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  Speaker 6: bring all those artists on.
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  Speaker 3: You'll limit yourself to just.
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  Speaker 1: Do That's right the urban guest. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I remember when I was here at Power when we're
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  Speaker 4: the other place. We used to be right next door
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  Speaker 4: to Whoopi Goldberg and we put John bon Jovi on
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  Speaker 4: the radio. Remember when I had Oprah on the radio
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  Speaker 4: and people was like classic moment. Yeah, how you doing that? Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, bon Jovi don't know he cool with black
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  Speaker 4: people until we tell him.
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  Speaker 1: So we have to diversify and go outside of the box.
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  Speaker 3: Did that really happen organically like that with Oprah?
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  Speaker 1: Just like it was Jamie Fox? Did that?
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  Speaker 3: Bro Okay?
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  Speaker 4: I had Jamie up and I said, Jamie, you know
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  Speaker 4: Oprah's you cool with Oprah. Oprah's getting a reputation that
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  Speaker 4: she don't like hip hop. You should tell Oprah come
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  Speaker 4: higher at me. So I guess he told her that
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  Speaker 4: she was in the city.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: He told Gail and they were in the city and
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  Speaker 4: Gail said, Jamie said that ed love of loves you,
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  Speaker 4: we should just roll up.
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  Speaker 1: There, and she just came Wow. I wasn't there, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I was not there.
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  Speaker 4: My cousin had gotten killed and his weight was there
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  Speaker 4: and I left early.
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  Speaker 1: I was in the afternoons. Then I left.
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  Speaker 4: Early to go to the wake and we're driving and
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  Speaker 4: my car get the car the line were driving, me
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  Speaker 4: and my assistant and it gets the phone call your
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  Speaker 4: Oprah's up here and she's looking for you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, please get out of here.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all play too much back when we hung out, but
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  Speaker 4: they called us back. It was like, no, for real,
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  Speaker 4: Oprah's here, you need to And I jumped out the
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  Speaker 4: car and ran back to the station and.
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  Speaker 1: She was there, and she came so cool man.
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  Speaker 4: She had one security upstairs with her, one downstairs in
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  Speaker 4: the lobby.
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  Speaker 1: Huh, and Gale and me and I just cut all
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  Speaker 1: the music off. I was like, ladies at that point, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Oprah's head. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 6: That's the one and only time Oprah's ever done hip
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  Speaker 6: hop radio. Yes, the one and only times done anybody else.
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  Speaker 5: How do you be feeling now when people attack Oprah
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  Speaker 5: saying like she's not for like black people with black
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  Speaker 5: men all that, Like you know, in real life.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta know Oprah Man.
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  Speaker 4: And she does so many things that she doesn't advertise,
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  Speaker 4: Like she gives away so much of her wealth that
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  Speaker 4: she does not advertise.
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  Speaker 1: Like remember when she opened the school in Africa, and
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  Speaker 1: people was like, she needn't do that in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: She's done that, she just doesn't advertise it all the time.
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  Speaker 4: So she's she's a different a different cut from a
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  Speaker 4: different cloth. And it's funny knowing her because people will
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  Speaker 4: always tell me to call Oprah and act Oprah to
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  Speaker 4: do something. I'm like, I ain't calling over. I call
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  Speaker 4: on her birthday and Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: That's how a call you just casually make all the time.
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  Speaker 1: No what're supposed to do? Open my man, got a
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  Speaker 1: move each other.
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  Speaker 2: That the most monumental moment besides on the radio and
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  Speaker 2: what was one of the worst moments on radio for you.
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  Speaker 1: One of the.
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  Speaker 4: Worst moments on the radio was somebody that I won't name,
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  Speaker 4: that I was working with.
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  Speaker 1: That we got into an argument on the radio.
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  Speaker 4: That was that was crazy because when we actually saw
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  Speaker 4: each other not too long ago and both of us
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  Speaker 4: apologized for our parts and in the fiasco. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you get older and you learned right stuff. If you
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  Speaker 4: don't learn, then you just stuck. But one of my
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  Speaker 4: favorite moments probably was Oprah was definitely my favorite. But
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  Speaker 4: my favorite from your on TV raps is too. One
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  Speaker 4: was definitely having James Brown on for a week because
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  Speaker 4: James Brown's a godfather, saw the Backbone, the most sample
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  Speaker 4: man in hip hop history.
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  Speaker 7: My daddy calls the first rapple absolutely right and funny
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  Speaker 7: with James because the whole time he was there, everybody
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  Speaker 7: around him had to call him mister Brown, and uh,
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  Speaker 7: he let myself, Dre and t Money call him James,
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  Speaker 7: especially when he found out that my first name is
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  Speaker 7: actually James, so then he was talking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, day dat.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't know what he was talking about about. It
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  Speaker 4: was cool having him on man, that was so dope.
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  Speaker 4: And probably when we had Bill Cosby on way before
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  Speaker 4: all the trouble, he actually uh called looking for me wow,
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  Speaker 4: and then left the number and I called him back
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  Speaker 4: and he actually picked up the phone.
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  Speaker 3: Did he give you a lection?
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  Speaker 4: No, That's what that was crazy, Charlottemage, because you know
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  Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy had said he only calls you if he
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  Speaker 4: wants to tell you he don't like what you're doing,
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  Speaker 4: or if he loves what you're doing. So I'm nervous
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  Speaker 4: when he gets on the phone and he tells me
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  Speaker 4: that he was in his office with his daughter and
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: they watched you on TV raps and I was doing
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  Speaker 4: a character and he was like, man, that thing was
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  Speaker 4: so funny and uh. And then he was like, listen,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have you on my show, and then I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna come and do your show. And he was a
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: man of his work. Yeah, you did do an episode
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  Speaker 4: of Yeah, I did episode of the show. I did
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  Speaker 4: it twice. The first time we got cut out and
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  Speaker 4: then the second time they interwove with me so much
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  Speaker 4: of the story that it was impossible for me to
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  Speaker 4: get caught out.
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  Speaker 6: The argument you having on the EDD you what was
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  Speaker 6: it about?
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  Speaker 1: It was about shaking us on the show at the time.
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  Speaker 3: It's like something something that should have been internal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it got blown out of purposed.
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  Speaker 2: You know, do you think well, first of all, I
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen Lisa G. But Lisa G
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  Speaker 2: works up here.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see I gotta go stop by and say
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: what's up?
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  Speaker 2: But I was going to ask you do you didn't
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  Speaker 2: know that a list G works up here?
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  Speaker 3: Do you work here?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I was I was going to ask, you know, do
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  Speaker 2: you think radio it's too serious?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Because now when you look at jocks, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: play all the time. But I remember the skits that
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: you used to do and listening to y'all in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Right when I watch you on Rap City, it was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Now I feel like it was fun. Do you feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's not fun anymore when it comes.
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  Speaker 4: Back fun because of the people taking everything that you
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  Speaker 4: say too seriously? You know, I say one of my
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: favorite breakfast club moments when y'all went viral was Birdman.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, put some respect on my name.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't playing all tree of y'all. You come up
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: here with a bunch of goons. They taking everything too seriously. Now,
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: when we was poking front of people, people knew that
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: we was just joking around and they ain't taking that serious.
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  Speaker 4: It was nobody sitting outside the radio station trying to
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  Speaker 4: beat me up because I said a joke about them.
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  Speaker 4: So I just think, yeah, radio is getting too serious.
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  Speaker 4: But it's the times, and I hate I hate this
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  Speaker 4: time that every time you turn around you're saying rest
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  Speaker 4: in piece to somebody, or some artists is getting killed,
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: or some rapper got gunned down, or somebody did this. Man,
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  Speaker 4: it's the love is just almost gone out of it,
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  Speaker 4: and the love needs to come back into it because
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  Speaker 4: we're losing too many of us. You know, I just
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: heard and I want to shout out got it because
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: I heard he wasn't doing you know, he had a
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  Speaker 4: stroke or something. But I wanted to say love to IRV,
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  Speaker 4: me and Earth. You know that envy. We all from
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  Speaker 4: the same neighborhood. But Irv said, the only thing worse
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: than getting old is not getting old. You know, I
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: was with Poc. I saw a pot fifteen minutes before
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  Speaker 4: he got shot. I'm sitting next to Biggie in the
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  Speaker 4: Peterson Automonive Museum.
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  Speaker 1: Before he walked out.
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  Speaker 4: The last thing he said to me is do I
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  Speaker 4: want to ride with him to NAS and Steve starts party.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, nah, I got a Corvette. I was
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  Speaker 4: feeling myself a corvette. And you know every time I'm
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: in LA now I got little money giving me a corvette.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, drop tops, I'm rolling? Yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 4: I said, nah. Christopher and he was always Edwin and
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  Speaker 4: he gave me a bottle of don Pi. He told
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: me to drink hudful for to bring it back. So
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I'm supposed to drink alf a bottle
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: of Dompia. I'm running around giving it everybody. I bring
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: it back to him. He pull out bot of Grandma Manye,
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: filled it up and gave it back to me. So
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: that's my relationship. It was hanging with Big, you know.
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: So I'm blessed to be here.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: Man, and I don't speed pass story.
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: You and Angie, y'all be saying that stuff so casual.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: That's like Greek mythology. Biggie and these people are mythical figures.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Does was man. Pock was a trip man.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: Being being with Poc sometimes was absolutely intriguing. But a
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: lot of people don't understand. Was a young dude, so
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: sometimes you get caught up in a wave of stuff
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: when you're young, you know what I mean. And I
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: watched him and Big go from two dudes that absolutely
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: adored each other to being at opposite ends of something
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: that just kind of rolled got bigger than them, right,
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: So we used to pick Pock up. My man stretched
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: too from Live Squad, you know, stretch from the recipe
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: stretch I got stretching them they did with Tommy Boy.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: That was my group, Live Squad and Stretching.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Poc became friends when I did Juice Stretch with me
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: to film my scene the Juice. If you you missed it,
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: I was standing behind Queen of I was about.
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: Did you see my face?
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: That's why you said that, because I'm like.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: I'm standing behind Queen of Tea from when she says
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: the winner is cute.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I'm right there there though they paid me to sign.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: So that's when we met Pop and stretching Pot, both
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: heavy weed smokers and and Trash from Nordy. They all friends.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: So whenever Pot came to New York, we pick him
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: up and the first thing he would always ask us,
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: did anybody talk to Big We're big at So we
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: holler that big page, big, bigger page.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Back and they go to Brooklyn Pages and.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: See and see and see big. So they were really
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: really tight to so to see.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: That man, that just bothered me. You ten, Yeah.
• 15:49
  Speaker 8: Do you remember like the turning of that because like
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: you saw the love right, yeah, was like, do you
• 15:53
  Speaker 8: remember like when that started to ship.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Right after the incident in the studio.
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: And their conversations behind the scenes, like like we hear
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: about people trying to calm it down, but what was
• 16:04
  Speaker 8: it really like behind the scenes trying to make them
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: understand that by the.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Time it escalated to the point it escalated to when
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: I was in Vegas that fight when Pot got killed
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: and I saw Pop coming through the Betty Boot bar
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: and I'm standing there with bitch of Don Magic wand
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: pretty Tony Handsome Drey and all the time I'm outside
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: in the bar and they trying to convince me they
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: won't give me a prostitute. And I'm like, I ain't
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: got no time to be watching Old Woman twenty five.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: And you a pimp, man, You got pimp in your Maine.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I'm telling your Maine. He was a I was like, man,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: I don't want no prostitute.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Pot comes through with sugar them and I didn't see
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: the stomping out of the kid because I was in
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: the box. He comes through, he stopped. Were talking, Yo,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: what's up? What's good man? How you doing?
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: I like you.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Coming to Shug's party. I'm like, yeah, bet I love you.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I love you too. They keep going, and my mind,
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I'm from the East Coast. I'm not going to Shugars
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Club in the middle of an East Coast West Coast war.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Even though I'm neutral, I ain't going over there, then
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: y'all gonna get drunk and let's stomp out the kid.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: From New York. Nah, I'm not doing that.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Do you wish you jumped in between since you knew
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: both of them and tried to I did.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I tried to talk the Park. He just he wasn't
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: hearing it. Big was stunned. Big didn't know where it
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: was coming from, why it was coming.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: He was hurt. Big and Season probably told y'all that before.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Big was honestly hurt by it because they loved each
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: other that much. Once that ball got rolling, it was
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: just impossible. Then you got Fine Magazine and all of
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: these people doing East Coast West Coast beef. It wasn't
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: that it was bad boy death Row.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: That was it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: How did y'all handle that on radio and TV?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Back then? I'm run to my business, That's what I did.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I minded my business.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I wasn't getting in between that stuff, man, because it
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: was hurt for to see two friends just turn what
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: they'd love they have into ashes, right, So I just
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: tried to stay out of it as much as I can.
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: No, only to ask you a personality back in the day,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: how did you know that you had to be multimedia
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: because you did t TV, you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Did radio, movie, you did movies.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: How did those things? Did those things happened or what
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: you were intentional about being multimi?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I was intentional about it because my mother and father.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I was lucky enough to grow up with both parents
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: in the home and I they were always instilling me
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: that when you get an opportunity to do.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Something, you take that opportunity.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: So just like you writing books and you're on your
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: third book now, congratulations, when I had those opportunities to
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: do that, I took the opportunities. You know, even if
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: some of them didn't work out, I still I still
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: took the opportunity. I remember talking to Angie when Andrew
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: was gonna make her album and I was in the
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: studio with her doing one of her shows. I think
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I was there late for some reason and Andrewe was like, man, ed,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this album. I don't know if I
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: should do it. I supposed to come out whack. I said, Angie,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: me and Dre did an album. Take the opportunity. I said,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: are you going to regret it if you don't do it?
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: And she was like yeah, I said, and do it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I saw you take every opportunity that's presented in front
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: of you. Now, every check ain't a good check. There's
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: been some endorsement stuff that I probably wish I never
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: got involved with, but that's the way it is.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: You take the.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Opportun when the opportunities presented themselves. That's why when I
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: had the opportunity to.
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: Do this band thing here for the summer to the
• 19:12
  Speaker 10: Love Presents the Live Mixtape twenty four, so he's on
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: tour for that, so we're definitely gonna be talking about that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Who's the Man?
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Come up?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, Who's the Man?
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I wrote Who's the Man? I wrote the story for
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Who's the Man? I knocked on Dre's door, and then
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Dre and I expanded on it, and then Charlie, who's
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: our manager, said it's a good idea.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Let's take it to.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: New Line and then New Line said yeah, and then
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: we said we're not doing it unless Ted directs it,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: and Ted was like bet.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: He wanted to do it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: And then they found a screenwriter because I didn't know
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: how to write a script, and the screenwriter wrote the
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: script and we sat with him said take that out.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: No nobody talks like that in the barber shop. Take
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: that out, take it out, and then they greenlit it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: You know, so it was a it was a good
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: idea and if you look at it when you watch
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: it, it says story.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: By at Love and doctor Dray because we wrote the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: story how doctor d Now d is recovering.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Dre has been not well for a while, you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: it's suffering from diabetes and legally blind. But we got
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Drey in a good place right now and he's getting
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: back to being Dre again. Now he's still my partner.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: We still talk all the time. He's still a damn fool,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: and we still do a lot of stuff together. So
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: he's good.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Did you do it? You didn't do other films after
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Who's the Man?
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah we did, Yeah we did. We had a
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: three pitcher deal that fell apart.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, it's the way to cookie crumbles sometime.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: But I've done a lot of movies, bro a lot
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: of stuff.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Now I wanted to know. You know, at one time,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you talk about your finances and it went back what
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: made the finances go bad? Because when you hear the stories,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: you hear the movies, you have radio, you hear this,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: what happened. What was the the money that was spent
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: on or maybe somebody as bro.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Y'all talking about this morning I arrest, but I bounced
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: right back off of that, bro.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Thank thank god for the love of a good woman.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: My wife is smarter than me, and she is the
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: one that was like, don't worry about it, we'll get
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: it together. And when they freeze your account and take
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: your money that it's like, whoa, bro. I was so
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: happy I was getting paid that next two weeks. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: was like, I got it in the house crying. They
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: took like ninety thousand straight out of my account, bro,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: just like wipe me. I was like, ah, I'm a dog.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: So my wife was like, nah, just push the car
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: note back. Call these people. Push that back, push this back,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: and push it back. And I did and I was
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: able to recover off of it. You know, it's a
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: good thing, but you gotta pay that irs. Baby, you
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: better because they coming for their money. They don't care
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: when it is.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: What is the live mixtape exactly?
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: The live mixtape is a journey of music. Like I
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: was saying earlier, is me coming full circle. These two
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: beautiful individuals that you see behind me do all the singing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Lets carry Epps that shirt with Brown Jr.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: They do all the singing, I do all the rapping,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: and we got a full band and we take everybody
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: on the musical journey and we just had fun. We
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: do everything from ll to Sheryl Lynn, to Rick James
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: to Nicki Minaj's we do everything. You gotta hear them
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: to sing many theay monsters mans career.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: He's going to be at Soob's this Friday and Wednesday.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: He's in Atlanta, So if you're in the area Friday, SOB's, Wednesday, Atlanta,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: definitely go check them out. I see you were in
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Boston a couple days ago.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how was that?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: That was?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Boston was all right, but you know what was live?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: The cities that you don't think alive are the cities
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: that's live. Pittsburgh crazy, Saint Louis crazy, Philly.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Came out heavy. They was crazy.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Nashville was crazy, and the first time we did Atlanta
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: was ridiculous.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: You know, how do you feel about these hip hop
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: like media personality lists and do you think you know
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: icons like you know, the Big Boys, the Sways, the Angie's,
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: even yourself do you think y'all should still be on him,
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: But I feel like they got to have some type
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: of of it all time Hall of Fame list for y'all.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I don't even think they should put y'all in on
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: those things anymore.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I think everybody's list is everybody's opinion,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: and everybody's always going to differ with whatever lists they
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: come out with. Who's the greatest that did this, Who's
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: the greatest that did That's funny because we were just
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: having a conversation because I just recently heard somebody was like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I think Tank said Chris Brown was better than Michael
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Jackson or something like that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And I was like, huh, ridiculous.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: And I think now people do because everything is so
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: social media, people do stuff for clickbait. So I think
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: everybody that has their list is their list. My list
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: is always going to differ from their list. Somebody's always
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: asking me, who's my top five rappers of all time?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I get the same answer. I don't have one. I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: don't have one.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I go by errors, but I just can't say that
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: this person is better than this person, or that person's
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: better than this person, because You're always going to leave
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: somebody off, somebody that's dope. Like somebody might say, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: it used to be jay Z bigg and nods at
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: one point, right who the better jay Z Bigger? But
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: how do you leave three thousand out of that? How
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: do you leave black thought off of that tupac back then?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: How do you leave most death off? It's just too many.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: So everybody, let's have your listener in ONBAMA.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's feeling too like to me growing up
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: driving to school every day and hearing what's up y'all?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: What you got to say? Who's on the phone with
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: at Leasta and j at Leasta and Dre is moments
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: that you never forget. But there's some kid out there
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that never heard that moment, and that moment is good
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: morning usay yo yo yo yo, yo yo yo, you know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: and it is generation because I don't think they actually
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: understand what it was.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: That's all generation.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Like when I was a kid, we had our things,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: you know, listening to Z one hundred early in the morning,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: and then I had my time for the generation and
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: as generations of people that listen to you guys every
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: single day, it's just a generational thing. It doesn't make
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: one thing better than another. It's just what we had
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: for our generation in our time, and now with somebody
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: else's generation and their time. The stuff that my grandson
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: listened to is not the stuff that my daughter listen to.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You know, I only understand it. It's a whole vibe, Grandpa.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, I like the Mount Rushmore conversation though,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: because I feel like they are founding fathers, founding you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: mothers who showed justs. We absolutely stand on right. So
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: if you're talking about hip hop media, Mount.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Rushmore, you gotta be on. I got to be on.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Who's sitting there with you?
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: Though?
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Who would you say?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Dre is definitely next to me?
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: Now the package, I think, yeah, you gotta package or one?
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: Who else is there on the.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore hip hop Geez damn.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I can I cannot leave Angreie Mark and I can't
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: leave flex off. I can't leave funk flex off of that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: There's no way, you know, especially if it's if you're
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: talking New York. But this country is so big, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: there's been other people in other cities that I've done
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: wonderful things, like we got the rod called from the
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Baker Boys Wow in California.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I had to call him and ask him, can we
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: can we do this? Steve Smith trying to give it
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to us.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I was like, I ain't stealing nobody's stuff. Let me
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: ask them, and they were like, yeah, man, y'all got ahead.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, bet, let's do the little
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: twist to it and do it all ways. So you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: what's my man name?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Dan?
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: You in the room, Dan, what's my man named? From
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: kDa back in the days? You know what I'm talking about?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Greg?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Uh, he's big in La on what KD was the
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: first a m all hip hop radio station.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He's straight pioneer this stuff. Man.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: So what would you.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Say now, July? I used to work with pick Up
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Julio too.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: What would you say be the other one?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: You said, Greg Mac?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Greg Mac from KD, Greg Mac from k Who.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Would be the other person on the Bell Restaurant?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I don't bigay?
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Definitely big boy, Yeah, flex Angie me Dre, y'all.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Y'all made y'all, monk man, you made your mark. You
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: deserve to be on there. Bro.
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: You.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I put Wendy on the first.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Wendy forget Wendy started a radio Wendy definitely. I'm glad,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: no disrespect Wendy, you definitely absolutely.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask, as an OG listening to
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: different radio personalities, what do you like and what don't
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you like when you listen to I don't like.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I don't like the fake and the phony. I like
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the authenticity. I listened to y'all. I like what y'all
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: are doing because you're authentic and you say what you
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: feel and you mean what you say.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Y'all didn't get shook at all when Birdman came up
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: in there. Y'all ain't get shook at all. Y'all just
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: looked at him like word, Okay, you really think it's
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: that easy?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: So you know when the time you check that, who
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: did you check for saying something crazy about your wife?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Who? Individual?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Everybody?
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Everybody?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm a person.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: So who you are because I've known you for a while,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I've known Charlemagne for a while, I just met your mommy.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Who y'all are is what we hear on this radio,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: and that's what I respect. I don't respect the fakeness. Now,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: all of that y'all. Don't y'all never say my man this,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: my man that, because y'all know this business. You've been
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: in this business. You know all that stuff is fake. Man,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: These people are your people. Why you could do something
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: for him? Then when you can't do nothing for him,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: no more dange your people, no more correct. So that
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: authenticity is what I respect and what I like. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: the fake and the phony I don't. I don't have
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: any room for that in my life.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Was it more beneficial to be friends with artists back
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: in the day because I remember.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: No, No, it still ain't.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: No. My friends now are the same friends I've always had.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: But I think my probably my closest friend, I was
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: closer to the reps than the artists. Always been closer
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: to the reps than the artists. Probably my closest friend,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and was probably Park and Heavy Heavy D was very
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: we're very close.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Recipes have I just see his daughter just got his
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: catalog for so long, I got the catalog and everything.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, did you ever think of suing the NFL when
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: they took the whole Come on, I ain't.
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: Have to brog absolutely, I have to.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was nice, it was great, right, My daughter
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: got a master's degree.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: That's all I got to said.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Did she go to She went to.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: She went to montclass State and then she got a
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: master's degree of William Patterson.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Google how much.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: We had to reach out. We're a little reaching out.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I was scared because it's owned by Disney, and I
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: was like, damn, I ain't gonna be able to take
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: my grandkids.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And Disney a big picture love. Let this fool in.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: But it worked out. They tried to say they started,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: they know it was too blatant. It was a platos
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: a play. Even wrote it the same except they put man.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, no, we ain't gonna let
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Y'll get over with that, not at all.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Do you believe the New York nineties hip hop scene
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: has been properly documented?
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: No, no, not yet, not the whole scene. No, no,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: nobody's nobody has done that yet.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: They've they've properly documented certain.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Parts of it, right, They that the whole tribe part
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: and the you know, but nobody's delved into Mom Deep
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: and Big and Jay and Nas and all the cats
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: in Black Moon and Wu Tang and all that stuff
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: existing at the same time. That film hasn't been done
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: yet you know, so it hasn't been documented correctly.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: No, and radio at the same time.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what New York radio was back then, yere we
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: burst on the scene.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: There was no other all hip hop radio station in
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: New York City butt Hot in ninety seven. So when
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: we used to have these parties and we used to
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: you know, oh, we number one again, and then we
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: pat ourselves on the back and I'd be like, number
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: one against who we compete against us? We're the only
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: ones here. Why are we happy about being Let's beat
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: everybody and then we can say we number one, you know.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: So it was that time was special. When we you're
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: living it, you don't realize how special that time is.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: It was just so much going on. So to answer
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: your question, No, nobody has documented. I wish somebody would
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: because there's so many different parts of it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Fashion right, right, the fashion was.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Crazy called Kanai and right five thousand and one flavors,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: what they was doing and everything. All that was happening
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: at the same time the parties Chris Latimer doing can
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Coon every year.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: We used to go to kan Koon.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: That's where that the one mistake Chris made and all
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: of us slept on this we did. Nobody trademarked what
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: happens in can Coon stays in.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Can km Vegas took it in trademark bears.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Wow, that was I was saying, what happens in cant Coon,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: stay in can Koon because debauchery was happening in can't Coon, Bro.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Everybody was smashing everybody, So it was like, this is
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: can Coon.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: We're not bringing this home. Sweet.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I know we had a good time in Cantcom, but
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: we home. We it's not happening no more. I know
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: you live in Minnesota.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: I'm never you originated the Blacklist.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: We had fun, we was wiling.
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: Do you feel like I mean, because now a lot
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: of that fun gets turned onto people, lawsuits are happened
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: and all that now, But when you see that, like
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: all that happened in to like our legends like Diddy
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: and you know, wrestle like different people, how do you
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: feel about that? Because I know you said one time,
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: I can't take away what Diddy's done.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I mean for music to.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Take away his legacy. Yeah, but what he did.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: To Cassie that we saw on camera was atrocious and
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: deplorable and he should be ashamed of himself for not
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the rest of it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Have I been to Diddy parties? Yeah?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Did I know what time to go home? Yeah? Have
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I hung out with Diddy? Yeah?
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Have I had fun with Diddy? Has Diddy always treated
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: me with love and respect?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Hell? Yeah?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: So all I could go by is what I know
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: about Sean Khan's what I saw deplorable and despicable and discussing,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: and as a father of four girls, did he would
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: have had a problem if that was my job.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: But I can't erase his legacy and what he did
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: musically and.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: What he meant to music. And I think he's learning
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: a hard lesson right now that these all them people
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: that you thought with your people, there was never your people?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: So what should happened to did he?
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Because we talk about his legacy, right, you know, people
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: talk about forgiveness, people talk about he should lose everything.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts? What should happened to? Somebody like it?
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: But I think if there is something legal, let the
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: courts play it out. But in the court of public
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: opinion and morality, that's something totally different. And he hasn't
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: been convicted of a crime, So the man is innocent
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: until proven guilty. And I would hope that somebody would
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: feel that way about me. But I think he has
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: to make amends for what we saw in Yeah, we
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: saw a video like that happened. What's my man named
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: ray Rice? Remember used to play for Baltimore. He did
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: the thing in the elevator and you know he didn't
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: get to play professional football anymore. So I think you
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: know did he got some soul searching to do and
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to make amends for what we saw.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Can he make amends for that?
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: Though?
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: How do you do that? Like after something like that?
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: It's super public, It's at this point his reputation is
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: what it is? Like, how do you come back from
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: something like that?
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I've never been in that situation, so I can't answer
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: that question, but it's gonna be tough.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: The first you gotta take care of what you need
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to take care of.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: As far if I was in that situation, I don't
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: know how or what I would do. I would think
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I would just have to rely on my God and
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: just take everything one day at a time. But I
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: would definitely try to make some amends for it and
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: probably get some counseling for it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: And what you said is true, and I don't understand
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: why people can't explore that, Like, your emotions do be
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: complicated on situations like this.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, what he did is disgusting.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: Right, but we still can't actly we didn't wile all
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: about the Benjamins, and we didn't you know, love that
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: whole bad boy at some point.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Now we played one twelve in the show Man, you
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: gotta do the mace pot.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Who more you want to.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, you're you've never been in a situation like
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: you said.
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: But when I hear y'all talk about separating the man
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: from the music, I feel like, what are Kelly?
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: People instantly?
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: Like stations stopped playing songs, don't stop playing them.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: People bang Kelly, they call it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: But I'm just saying like there was like a corporate.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: Like movement around to what he was doing. Yeah, Like
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: when you hear about what he's doing here, age ain't
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: nothing but a number, it seems like it's different.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: The music was about that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I see.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I think also with I think, and it's gonna sound crazy,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I think Diddy was I don't want to say more relatable,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: but he was more in tune to hip hop. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: would see Diddy, we would go to Diddy parties. He right, Well,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I know Diddy, I don't know Kelly, you know what
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I mean. So it's a little different when you're dealing
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: with people like that.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And with Rob, with Diddy, you're not hearing
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: nothing about underage you know what I mean. You're hearing
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: about wild parties, and you're hearing about what happened with
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Ms Cassie Ventura, but you're not hearing about him taking
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: the advantage of underage girls and boys. And that's what
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: we got with Rob. That was an open secret in
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: the music business for years.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: That's what Rob's preference was.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we heard that before all the I mean I've
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: heard I've heard people say that. Yeah, it was an
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: open secret. But I mean, why do people allow that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I guess he was making money people a lot, a
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff when it comes time to make money, right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I want to know, you know, back to the radio
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: where you were talking about white program directors and white
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: people running the industry when Hot ninety seven flipped to
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: hip hop, right, and of course hip hop is our culture,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: did you ever feel a way that the bosses were
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: white and they were pretty much telling us what to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: do for our culture in.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: The very beginning of Hot ninety seven.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I can't say that I've ever felt that way because
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: they were always in tune to what we were doing
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: and open to listen. It wasn't just like this blanket
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: that when I went to Steve office it said something
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: to Steve. Steve would always listen when Tracy was there.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: If I go say, Tracy, I think that we should
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: be doing this, that, and the third, Tracy would always listen.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And if there was a corporate reason.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Why we couldn't do it, or there was a financial
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: reason why we couldn't.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Do it, she was They were always open to listen.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: So I never felt that way over there.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: I never felt like I wasn't being heard, even though
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: this was the music that we grew up on, in
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: the music that we gave to the world. I never
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: felt that I wasn't being heard. Because it's the same
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: way with MTV. Everybody that was my boss with MTV
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: was white. But I can always talk to Tad and
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Peter and they will always fight that good fight for me.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Dre and Fat I love Tracy. Tracy was the one.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Tracy is great to Tracy, how did.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You approach on TV different from your approach on radio?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Television or radio?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Is you know this radio is automatic, It's right in
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: front of your face. It's like, soon as you walk
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: out the house, whatever you said, people gonna repeat back
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Television, you do your.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Job, you act, and they may see it later, or
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: they may not see it and may air this day,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: it may not air this day. Radio is the most
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: immediate thing because people get you get it automatically and
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: in your.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Face, and that's it. So radio.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: I approached radio differently the television television. Most of the time,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: if I'm on TV, I'm acting well. If I'm doing radio.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: It's just me.
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: Is it true that you were only making five hundred
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: dollars a week the first week of YO and TV reps?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, the first eight so maybe a year yeah,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: first year, yeah, because they didn't know what to do
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: with the show.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Fab was already there, Thank god.
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: For Fab Fabredy, fab five Freddy, like Fabulous was there? No,
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: not that fat, there's another Fab before Fab. It was
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: Fab five Freddy. He was already there. He got on
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: in eighty eight. So this show blew up. They wanted
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: to do a daily show.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: So when they decided to do the daily show, Drey
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: and I got the opportunity to audition. Because Peter knew
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Drake Peter Darty god Rest his soul executive producer new Drake,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Ted Demi knew me, and Ted called me in. Ted
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: had the foresight to put me and Dre together. They
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: had one thousand dollars a week for a host, so
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Dre took five. I took the other five. It didn't
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: last that long. We got our money.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: What was the biggest check you got, if you don't
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: mind talking from radio or TV? The biggest check that you.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Got at one one time? Just like one check in
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: my hand, one hundred thousand that was from That.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Was from H that was from TV.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I had an opportunity to do a late night TV
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: talk show and they gave me a one hundred thousand
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: dollars check in my hand.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: A few episodes.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: We shot the pilot at the David Letterman Theater and
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: it was a good show and everything was a go.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: And then they called me and said, oh, we decided
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: to go with keenan Ivory Walliams. But they gave me
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars. Fine, I mean Keenan, this great guy.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: They gave me one hundred thousand dollars holy feet, So
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I was fine with that. That's when they hold you
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: like for a year, you can't do nothing else, like
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: you can't do another talk show, and they just handed
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: me a check for one hundred thousand. But Drey and
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I went from five hundred dollars a week to a
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: quarter million dollars a year after the first year, you're
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: on TV rights each if she was like.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Back then, it was more about hip hop culture than
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: hip hop business.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Money.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I think at some point money ruined hip hop in
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: a certain way because it was about the culture. Like
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: you had to be nice, right, you couldn't just get in,
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: like you couldn't just go and and you know.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: What, like the water hurt, what.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Traumatizing, water flowing flowing, so you knowing, you had to
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: have some kind of scale. If you came around with that,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: you might get beat up and told to get out
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: of here, right, So you had to.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Have some kind of skill level.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: But once the money got involved and everybody started making money,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: and you saw death Row one hundred million dollar company,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: you saw bad Boy one hundred million dollar company. You
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: saw Rockefeller a hundred million dollar company. You saw Rough
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Riders one hundred million dollar company. Sooner or later it
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: transitioned into were just trying to move units, were just
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: trying to sell records. We're extremely now, so everybody you
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: know with Soldier Boy, which is another one of my
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: favorite interviews, every Drake.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, then I found out that that was true. You
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: brought him.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: So I remember being in New York. I forgot what
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: year it was, and you was going on a Soldier
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: Boy rant.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: And back then after the first couple of records, I
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: just thought he was tracking. I just that a hot record.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: But guess what else I missed out on? Y'all not
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: even gonna believe this, son, Mike Cott, say, y'all know
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Mike cos Mike Kyser came to Hot ninety seven and
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: played get at Me Dog for men.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I said, it's the worst record I ever heard.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, you got it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I missed out on that. So I missed out on
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Big Drac o'toos. I apologize it.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I missed out on I told you the CODs like man,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: you bucking, I'm like man, he barking. We already got
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: a dog. We got snoop dog, Why we need another dog?
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: And then he was the beat that it was that
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: was used was the old knick knacked paddywack.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Off it EBMD. I'm old school. You don't bite nobody
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: else's beat. You don't use it again.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: And then we went to west Chester County for a
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: hot ninety seven hot shot basketball team we had.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And that DJ dropped that and them kids lost it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I was like, Ed, you was wrong. He was wrong
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: on that one. What I think was gonna last?
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: What other things did you miss out on that were
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: like now they're like we look at the moments like,
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: oh my god, like that you could have been a
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: part of or could have been a first one.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: My daughter, my oldest daughter, Tiffany, I should choke the
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: crap out of her. Lloyd Banks was in her home
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: room class giving her the G Unit mixtapes before they
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: was signed, and she never once said at their dad,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: here's this group called G Unit that's floating around A
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Fifth is from south side Jamaica queens.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And but would you have done it back then?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Because Fifth had beef with.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Everybody squash the beef. I probably went to black duss
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: it like yo, just man talk to preme. Man, we
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: gotta stop this man. We gotta get this kid going.
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  Speaker 4: This kid you matter of fact, y'all need points, which
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  Speaker 4: y'all need. Yeah, my daughter, man, she did not tell
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  Speaker 4: me Banks was in her class, and hey go the
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  Speaker 4: crazy stuff. He went to August Martin. My daughter went
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  Speaker 4: to August Martin. Come to find out Banks moms was
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  Speaker 4: in my homeroom class at August Martin.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've seen bake this last week was up the bank, shout.
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  Speaker 1: Out the banks.
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  Speaker 6: How was the game of boll since you started? And
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: what changes and surprised you the most?
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  Speaker 4: I think the change that surprised me the most is
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: we don't know how people getting paid from their music,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: you know, the streaming thing. I hear a lot about it,
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  Speaker 4: like this person streamed this many streams and I'm like,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: so how they getting paid? And then I saw a
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  Speaker 4: snoop complaining about he don't even know how he get paid.
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  Speaker 1: Off of his his stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I always thought that we would have hard copies of music,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: like it's easier to say this person sold, actually sold.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: This person is popular because they actually people go out
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  Speaker 4: and consume and bought and paid for it and took
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: it with them and lived with it. Like when we
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: get Rich and DoD Try and came out. We was
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: running around the city trying to find somebody that had it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: You couldn't find it in the record store. So I
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: think what shocked me the most is the streaming and
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: probably the lack of balance in him. The balance is
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: not there. The love is gone, like you had even
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  Speaker 4: if we had even if we had kaya, right, we
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: still had Latifah and light and salt and pepper, and
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: it was always a balance if you if you had
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: n w A, you had some conscience over there, right, yeah, right, yeah,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: quality that the.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Balance is just is gone.
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  Speaker 5: Why do you think that is?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Some people say it's
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the record companies. I don't know.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: I just think it's what people think they need to
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: do to get on nowadays.
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: Because I feel like the conscious artists are there, but
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: the controversy and like the other stuff breaks through. So
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: we just they don't get the light, They don't get
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: the you know what I mean? You got to be like
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: a cult fan of someone who's conscious nowadays.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: Like J Coles, right, like J Cole breaks through though,
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: but yeah, yeah, he don't.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: They give the balance. Rhapsody is one of them. I've
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: been telling people about Rhapsy five years ago. I love Rhapsody.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: She's she's the balance, the three T three D Nazis.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I love that young lady. They give the balance. The
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Lola Brooks. I like Lola.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of young artists out there that I
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: really like. But we need we need more.
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  Speaker 1: Of a balance.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: How do you feel about the new wave of music
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: in New York that like Sexy Drill, it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Ain't for me, No, it ain't for me.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: You gotta understand what's for you, what's not for you? Right,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: And I get to a point now where I'm like.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's for them. If that's your vibe, that's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: your wave.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Cool, because I remember when my father used to get
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: at me about hip hop, like that's crap.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: That deep deep deep, dude, anybody can do that like that,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it's music. Ain't music. So the way, I don't get
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: in the way of the young artists coming up.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Do your thing. God bless you. Y'all make a way
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: more money than we ever made.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: We opened the door for y'all. Go ahead, run through
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: that door and keep the door open for the next generation,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: because y'all ain't gonna understand the next generation. I never
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: thought i'd see to day. You know, when you see
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: a cap, be like, who's jay Z? If jay Z
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: wasn't a billionaire, they wouldn't know his.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: Music, You know what, people, I love you people.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: If it wasn't like some people know him as Beyonce's husband,
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: they don't even know a lot of the stuff. I
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: knows him as Beyonce's husband. I think that's crazy.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: That's insane. That is insane. Shout out to Beyonce to
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: send me some of that new whiskey. You gotta come out.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I drink burder Well tonight.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: In case tonight he's gonna be at s B's a
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Soob's what time tonight does it start? Get your tickets The.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Clock seven o'clock. Ed Lover presents the live mixtape band.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: We rocked a straight hour and a half. It is
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: New York, so we might do two hours tonight and.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: It's all good music.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Come on out.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: It's date night. Bring your girl, ladies, bring your fellow.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: They have food there. It could be a ladies night out.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: They recreate some of the biggest records in hip hop
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: and r and b at Love it does the rapping,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: they do the singing. So I can't wait till carry out.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: We got mister Shirtwick Brown Jr. On vocals, and we
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: got a hell of a band, man, a bunch of
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: really talented young cats.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: And we appreciate you for joining us this morning.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I appreciate y'all having me. Man, I'm
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: Look at this absolutely listen. You wanted the icons who
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: showed that we stand on right now.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man, And I always appreciated the fact
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that when Power one on five let me go and
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: y'all came in, y'all never crapped on me.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Man, And I really I appreciate.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: We want to do things that you did.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, trying to figure out to
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: start something up. Now, what about the Breakfast Club? Man?
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Why are you about to like I'm command me and
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: envy from the same hoods n I'll say, you ever
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: heard the Breakfast Club say anything bad about me?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: No? Then I ain't gonna say nothing bad about the
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: And I told y'all do what y'all do, man, and
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: shout out to Jess and congratulations me and just did
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: the essence last year together.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: She's a joy to work with.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Man, we had to fight too many of your listeners
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: when we first started. Oh man, i'm gonna tell you
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: one of your.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: Biggest listeners who was on our head Warren sat on
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: our wars, these young punks on.
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: The when I first got the Power and we flipped
• 49:16
  Speaker 9: Power from the R and B from jamming one on five,
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: the Power one on five.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: That's the same calls I took that morning when we
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: flipped the station. Where's such and such? Where's this person?
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Who's that I don't want to hear? No head Love
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: and Doctor Drey on the radio.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: So it's full circle.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Man shouts the sad thought.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well it's the breakfast Club is at Love?
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club