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Episode 271: Adrift (SG-A 4.01) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Yate episode two hundred and seventy one. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking Stargate Atlantis for the foreseeable future, and it's Mitch
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  Speaker 1: and Maddie. What's going on? Broddie, say you say hid
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  Speaker 1: to the people?
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  Speaker 2: Just to drift? Just the two of us?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, aren't we just lonely in a drift? I guess
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  Speaker 1: what an apt episode? Certainly the title to be discussing
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  Speaker 1: for our firsts. I mean, we've done ones that are
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  Speaker 1: just you and I, but never lameously. Grace watch.
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  Speaker 2: One of the one of the.
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  Speaker 1: Big ones, you know, if you want to dms and
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  Speaker 1: replace the word famously with whatever adjective you'd like. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're here talking about season four of Atlantis, the premiere
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  Speaker 1: episode of when that bloody show returned and no more
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  Speaker 1: SG one, although we can't seem to quite let go
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  Speaker 1: of just I mean, you know, you guys have known
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  Speaker 1: that I may or may not have seen DVD covers
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  Speaker 1: along the way, so I knew that there was a
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  Speaker 1: little thing or two here and there.
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  Speaker 2: But well, I mean, speaking of DVD covers and things
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  Speaker 2: coming back.
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  Speaker 1: Do you hear that it's a booklet? Isn't it? Is
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  Speaker 1: it a booklet?
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  Speaker 2: That is a synopsis for the entire seson.
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  Speaker 1: Stop it. It's not just like a booklet inside of
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  Speaker 1: special features or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Of every every synopsis for the entire season that came
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  Speaker 2: in my big fat case.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, we've always thought that the
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  Speaker 1: Atlantis synopsies on the DVDs have been you know, they
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  Speaker 1: haven't been worried about their word economy. They've been been
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  Speaker 1: pretty fluid with how much they want to squeeze in there.
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  Speaker 1: These ones look short. Let's just straight into it. A
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  Speaker 1: drift episode one of season four star get Atlantis next
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  Speaker 1: to a beautiful picture of one Amanda Tapping and boiler
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  Speaker 1: Samantha Carter a drift. In twenty eight hours, Atlantis's shields
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  Speaker 1: will fail completely in the city's inhabitants will succumb to
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  Speaker 1: the vacuum of space to add to the predicaments, and
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  Speaker 1: asteroid belt is fast approaching.
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  Speaker 2: That's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's very quick. I feel like they're even quicker than
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  Speaker 1: the old school SG one DVD one. Yeah, I'm not complaining.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I guess, yeah, well they do. They did
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  Speaker 2: like four four per page, so like that's it literally yet.
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  Speaker 1: But like as opposed to like while the city is
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  Speaker 1: still floating through space in twenty eight hours, this will
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  Speaker 1: have just like bang.
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  Speaker 2: It's meanwhile Samantha Kada blah blah blah blah blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, they could be doing a lot there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Man, well just because you know it's the two of
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  Speaker 2: us now, I thought, well, you know, you're still our newbie.
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  Speaker 2: This is you know, this is uncharted territory for us,
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  Speaker 2: unchattered territory for you. Yeah, and you know I have
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  Speaker 2: a haven't made it a secret over the last few
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  Speaker 2: seasons that season four and five Mitlanda is not exactly
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  Speaker 2: my favor.
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  Speaker 1: Season, not your faves. Yeah, you definitely said you might
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  Speaker 1: tap out. I mean, prior to Brendan's announcement, you're like,
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be a whole slew of long service leader.
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  Speaker 2: I've been the only one of us of the entire
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  Speaker 2: team that has been here for every goddamn episode, and
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  Speaker 2: I was so looking.
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  Speaker 1: Forward unless my bosses are listening, of course, for those
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  Speaker 1: episodes that we always record in the studio, I have
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  Speaker 1: always been here for those.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was like three bosses ago. At this point,
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  Speaker 2: You're fine, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And guys, if we really want to delve into it.
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  Speaker 1: Bosses that may or may not be listening. We did record, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, eighty episodes at home, so we're okay, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: actually nowhere near eighty. We wish it was eighty. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't eighty. Anyway, We push on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I thought I'd fall back on something familiar,
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  Speaker 2: and I've made something just a little just a little intro,
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  Speaker 2: just so that we can get you just remember and
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  Speaker 2: remind everybody that you are the newbie, and just what
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  Speaker 2: do you think? O?
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  Speaker 1: No, okay.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a great guy love match. Okay, what do.
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  Speaker 1: You think Daniel? Oh boy? Okay, so is this what
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  Speaker 1: we used to do? It's been that long.
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  Speaker 2: Since, Like we had this whole routine, and you'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: you do the thing, you'd welcome everybody, you'd welcome, you
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  Speaker 2: do the synopsis, and you're like, rece what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And then Reese would just roll into his you know,
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  Speaker 2: his new be thought.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Jesus, I'll tell you what. If I would have
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  Speaker 1: thought about it like that, I probably would have written
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  Speaker 1: my notes a little differently. I wish I'd even brought
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  Speaker 1: my notes, but they're sitting in my sitting in my
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  Speaker 1: kitchen bench.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine. You remember to bring all four of your children,
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  Speaker 2: so that's the main thing.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine if I brought the note and three kids, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just three. I'm missing my beautiful three year old princess.
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  Speaker 2: Oh why did it have to be heard that you
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  Speaker 2: left behind?
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  Speaker 1: A no, I'm just saying the one that would you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be more worried about, because.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, yeah, if the two middle ones left behind,
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  Speaker 2: you'd be like, well, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: My oldest did actually, like a minute before we're leaving,
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  Speaker 1: He's I just like probably no, but like I can't
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  Speaker 1: just like stay here and go writing with my friends.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, definitely, A no.
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  Speaker 2: He's another year or two he'll be all right, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not quite yet.
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  Speaker 1: And also maybe him coming in as a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a punishment, so it's like, get in mate, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: You're already making me late. Let's go, bro, we were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to get in there half an hour earlier. That
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  Speaker 1: what we're going to all right? Yeah? I ah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of how you had sold this
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  Speaker 1: episode or both of you guys. I think when we
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  Speaker 1: did the finale, I feel like it was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of like, yeah, it's obviously picks up that they
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  Speaker 1: you know, they come out of hyperspace right at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season finale in season three, they're floating.
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  Speaker 1: They go, hey, this didn't mean to happen. We're now floating.
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  Speaker 2: Whoops.
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  Speaker 1: And then it just in case I have no idea
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  Speaker 1: where we are yeh, like scary proposition and you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not much else happens in episode one they just it
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  Speaker 1: definitely picks up and sort of wraps that up or
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  Speaker 1: kind of. But no, I don't know, I like this.
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  Speaker 1: I liked it. It just it kept moving. There were
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  Speaker 1: just things happening all the time, like the asteroid belt,
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  Speaker 1: which is funny. The synopsis teas that that's coming, like
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  Speaker 1: that was a a thing that was happening at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the episode. That was it had to have
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  Speaker 1: been before halfway.
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  Speaker 2: And that was like the fifth problem, Like they got
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  Speaker 2: through all these other problems first.
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  Speaker 1: But like, I'm really feeling for dull State. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: committed her character's name to memory yet. That is doctor
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  Speaker 1: Keller Keller there we go yeah, like she and like
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  Speaker 1: she goes on to say, hey, like half of my
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  Speaker 1: team is and maybe this is in the next episode,
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  Speaker 1: and you will have to clear it up for me
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  Speaker 1: because I have watched too that She's like half of
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  Speaker 1: my team are on the Apollo, like we are so
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  Speaker 1: understaffed and we're in so much trouble here.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, now, that did tie into something that I think
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  Speaker 2: Brendan and I spoke about a while ago. We referenced
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  Speaker 2: the puddle Jumper sequence where there's all the pilots shooting,
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I think you were including that conversation where
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  Speaker 2: we sort of said, well, why don't they just have
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of pilots designated and all that kind of thing. Oh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and Brendan and I referenced slyly this episode and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess we both forgotten that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So while the attack on Atlantis was happening by the
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  Speaker 2: Replicators last season, obviously a bunch of the nonquote unquote
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  Speaker 2: non essential personnel had been evacuated to the Apollo. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so it was kind of a skeleton crew left on
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  Speaker 2: on Atlantis.
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  Speaker 1: Skeleton crew if you want to hear Meny and I
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  Speaker 1: talked about it later style get a GIEK podcast channel
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, obviously Keller lost. I mean, you know I would
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  Speaker 2: argue that Keller's medical team is probably essential. Yes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like medical team is probably something essentially.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking that too. I'm like, especially with what
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  Speaker 1: they knew they needed to do, I get you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to like potentially sacrifice the entire team, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: leave the majority of them in the city es.
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  Speaker 2: Actually they're working in shift work, whether you know there's
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  Speaker 2: there's maybe like you know, Alpha Alpha Team, Beta Team,
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  Speaker 2: Gamantine working in like eight hour shifts or whatever, so
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  Speaker 2: they're always you know, rotating around you. At least keep
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  Speaker 2: one whole team, you know what I mean. So she
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  Speaker 2: should at least have a fully stocked even if it's
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  Speaker 2: only for eight hours at a time, you have a
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  Speaker 2: fully stocked medical team. But how did you feel about
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  Speaker 2: I felt I felt for you straight away, and I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: Mitch's gonna love this. He's going to come into ten
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  Speaker 2: Hards when it's like maybe even the opening scene and
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  Speaker 2: it's just Keller just strauted on a girl just doing
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  Speaker 2: her best er, just getting wheeled in. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Mich's gonna love this.
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  Speaker 1: It was just I mean, it was just a lot
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  Speaker 1: like it Obviously hasn't been that long since I watched
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  Speaker 1: the finale, but yeah, just threw that into the doctor
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  Speaker 1: We're issue and the fact that the power is running out,
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  Speaker 1: they have no idea where they are, the asteroid beld
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  Speaker 1: is coming. When they fixed that, they still got to
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  Speaker 1: do the jump, and you know, there was just so
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  Speaker 1: much going on that it kind of breathed by but
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel rushed. And at the same time, I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't concerned that we didn't get a wrap up
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the episode. I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 1: we needed a tie bowe on this story because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have all these problems happening that
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  Speaker 1: don't feel rushed, but also don't feel like they've been
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  Speaker 1: given too much time to breathe, and then at the
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  Speaker 1: end go ah, oh, well we're done now, and then
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  Speaker 1: took straight off into a wormhole. You know, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it was like, it's scary I get there
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  Speaker 1: in this insanely not futuristic because it's very ancient, but
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  Speaker 1: like overly developed technicol logically speaking city or spaceship, and
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  Speaker 1: that there just continues to be these problems with it.
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  Speaker 1: They still don't fully understand after being years they don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to drive this thing. Probably they don't. They
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  Speaker 1: don't still haven't explored all of it. They're in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, diminishing power, and all of their people
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  Speaker 1: are dying. And then you've just got the normal natural
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  Speaker 1: things in space, like an asteroid belt that contend with
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know, I just thought that, like that
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  Speaker 1: was cool, just having them go out there and just
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  Speaker 1: blast these things. I mean, the fact that we had
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  Speaker 1: to have the shield shrink in just to protect the
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  Speaker 1: core of the city.
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  Speaker 2: The Dildo shield.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: What's that building in London, the Girkin or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called, but exactly it looks
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  Speaker 1: exactly what this shield look like in its smallest form.
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  Speaker 1: But even the blokes that were on the outskirts of
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  Speaker 1: the city and they said, hey, this shield's going to
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  Speaker 1: start shrinking. We need to get them back in and
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  Speaker 1: shepherds screaming at them and they're like, yeah, no worries,
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  Speaker 1: we're nearly there, and oh well gravity's going and then
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  Speaker 1: their atmosphere has gone and they just you just they
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  Speaker 1: didn't even get like a third scene. They got two
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  Speaker 1: shots and then you see their dot disappearing as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's brutal, man.
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  Speaker 2: That was a necessity because apparently the because I think
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  Speaker 2: this is I was telling you so I don't even
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  Speaker 2: mentioned in this synopsis written by Martin Geiro, directed by
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  Speaker 2: Martin Wood, I didn't This was another situation where Martin
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  Speaker 2: Wood during the filming of this, he had to duck
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  Speaker 2: off and he was filming continuum, so a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff was second unit. And apparently there was some
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  Speaker 2: shots of those guys getting like the the shield disappearing
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  Speaker 2: and they were obviously like then started floating.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently it was very good. Yeah, right, so that's why
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  Speaker 2: they look where we're going to not put those shots
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  Speaker 2: in this in this episode and we're just gonna tell
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  Speaker 2: it with little dots on a screen.
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  Speaker 1: I think that worked better. I think that was more
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  Speaker 1: heartbreaking that it's like, oh, we didn't get a goodbye,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't get a farewell moment, they didn't get to
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  Speaker 1: finish their job, you know, live their lot, but it
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  Speaker 1: was just like it's done. Yeah, Like so I actually
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  Speaker 1: think that worked better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did, Like I hate to compliment this
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  Speaker 2: episode because it's a Martin Gear episode, but it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did focus on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what I didn't realize is Atlantis definitely has a
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: pattern now, and I've spoke about, you know, the Ronan
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  Speaker 2: pattern and a few other patterns, the mid season patterns.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing a lot of three episode season arcs. I
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  Speaker 2: think about the siege at the end of season one,
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  Speaker 2: beginning of season two, Yeah, and the end of season
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  Speaker 2: two beginning of season three was the thing with all
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  Speaker 2: the Wraith that got turned into humans, and it was
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  Speaker 2: kind of that filler episode of the middle with all
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: the guys in the bad old Lady weird wigs. Well,
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  Speaker 2: and this one is, yeah, obviously we had the amazing
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  Speaker 2: first strike at the end of last season, then we've
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  Speaker 2: got this episode and then the next episode Lifeline is
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  Speaker 2: kind of yet it's a three parter kind of thing,
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  Speaker 2: so I think, yeah, it gives them a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of space, like you were saying, to sort of not
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: wrap it all up forty minutes and have it all done,
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  Speaker 2: because obviously the end of last season was a huge,
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  Speaker 2: huge thing. So yeah, I like that we had a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of time in this And yeah, I did
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  Speaker 2: like the pacing of the just like the running joke
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  Speaker 2: with Rodney where it was just like, oh, like I
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: didn't even get a minute, you know, like just just
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  Speaker 2: the constant when they solved one problem and the one
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  Speaker 2: and the next thing happens. But the thing I love
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  Speaker 2: the most, and unfortunately it was the writing, was the
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  Speaker 2: duality of Weir and Atlantis, like them both dying at
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: the same time. There was that moment like they think
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be okay, and then like Weir starts flat
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  Speaker 2: lining as something else happens to the city, and there
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  Speaker 2: was that moment where I think it's Keller and I
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  Speaker 2: think McKay both kind of something happens with Weir and
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  Speaker 2: Keller goes come on, and something happens with Atlantis and
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  Speaker 2: McKay does the exact same come on. Like I did
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  Speaker 2: really enjoy that duality because to me, with We're being
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  Speaker 2: my favorite character of this series, yeah, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: I did mention to you maybe last season or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. Is something that I think the show misses
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  Speaker 2: going forward is the fact that we've left that planet,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: you know, so we don't get the Flag of Salas
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  Speaker 2: storylines anymore and the deep history and and we wouldn't
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: be able to do the the underwater one from last
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  Speaker 2: season with the the energy platform that was underwater with
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: the Wraith Queen and all that kind of like, we
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: can't do those stories anymore going forward, so I kind
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  Speaker 2: of I don't know, tonally, I really enjoy the We're
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  Speaker 2: being Atlantis and connected to that planet kind of thing
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  Speaker 2: is all kind of wrapped up in my head. So
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  Speaker 2: I did like the Yeah, as things for Weir got worse,
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  Speaker 2: the city got worse, and vice versa. I find that
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  Speaker 2: really really entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that she is missing from DVD covers
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  Speaker 1: that I can now look at and with the way
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  Speaker 1: that it operates in the open credits and the opening credits.
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  Speaker 2: Just she's just gone. They forwarded her.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's we'll talk about it more when we talk
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  Speaker 1: about Samantha Carter. But like the fact that she is
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  Speaker 1: straight up in the credits, I'm like, oh, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know she was going to be in this episode,
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I think that I hate. I hate
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: when they do that sort of stuff. I like when
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: they really think about the fans and it's more old
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  Speaker 1: school TV because you don't get big openers like that
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  Speaker 1: anymore really, Although.
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  Speaker 2: And I think in terms of this, like obviously the
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: the four orums and the message boards and like edit'd
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: been spoiled long long before the show, the show premiere,
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: yeah that it was happening, but yeah, you kind of
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: do lose something in the in the rewatch, and I
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: guess in the first watch too, when you're watching it,
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, you're not live.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, Like, whenever I'm watching something for the
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  Speaker 1: first I really try to avoid the on screen credits.
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  Speaker 1: You know, not just out of the opening, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: especially when it's like you feature and you know I
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: might throw in someone who make a cameo or returning episode.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, don't try and avoid that. And I know
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: it's caught me out sometimes watching Gate and you guys
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: have laughed at me because I've been surprised. It's like,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: how do you not see that coming? And other ones
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  Speaker 1: where you really wanted me to be surprised, and I'm like, no,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: it got spoilt that. You know that was the one
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: where Daniel showed up again or something like that. Well,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: you know for that was more so I guess for Reese,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it'll be something I guess we talk about, well,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I mean the next week, the week, I don't know,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: that's the point is that I'm watching this for the
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: first time. But the idea of like you said, she's
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: so tied to Atlantis, the Atlantis that's part of the
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: storyline of the show. That's what they wanted to do
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: with the show is move it somewhere else for whatever reason.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, they're not doing all that. Because Tory
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Higginson came to them and said I want out, They're like, well,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: let's move the entire city to another planet, like it's
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: clearly something they wanted to do.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: And then she didn't even know what was happening until
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: after they finished First Strike, like she got you know, yeah,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: and then they're like, you just want to can't have
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: a chat with us? Oh okay, upstairs, right, And then
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: they were like, so next season you're gonna you're gonna
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: be recurring.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Ah right, yeah, all right, Well, maybe that there is
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: something we need to talk about for next week, because
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I have seen Lifeline, but it's and it obviously operates
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: in a very different way with weird than what this
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: one does. But that's interesting because I'm always I'm always
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: wondering when you see an actor leave a show and
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: you're like, did he or she want to leave, and
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: that's why this storyline's happening, and you know, if not,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: you know, like, at what point do they have to
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: rewrite an entire show to get someone out either because
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: they loved them, they didn't want them to believe, but
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: the actor wanted to but gave them there, you know,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: six months notice or is it like we need to
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: get them out of here, but we don't want to
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: impact the show by just, you know, kicking them off
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: straight away.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: So I'll wait a few more episodes to when it's
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: appropriate to let you know.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously you know, you can't do anymore not
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: to spoil anything for Mitch because you're talking to me. Yeah, yeah,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: so you will absolutely be spoiling things. Yeah, you can't
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: pretend like you're just talking to Brendan anymore. That's it.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, there have been some interviews with Tory
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Higginson obviously since then, like at CON's and stuff like that,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: so I do have some little transcripts of her thoughts
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: on it. But basically kind of like what I was
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: saying last season or maybe even season one, it's like
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Brad right was the he was the weird champion. Then
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: think of the Tory champion as well. And at this
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: point I believe for season four, at least for season four,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: it was Joe and Paul and now the other showrunners.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Brad stepped away, Cooper stepped away, so and they yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: they just didn't Brad was the only one that knew
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: what to do with Weird as a character. So with
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: him not sort of being there to champion for her,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: they kind of went, well, we're going to take this
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: creative decision.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: They listening too many Brennans. We've got to get her
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: out of here. Man, Yeah, what are we gonna do?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: We're gonna panic. I mean it's kind of like you
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: look at the MCU at the moment, like it's not
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: not weirz that she's just for years, but it's like
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: they're trying all these new things and people this is
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: woke shit. Why, well, she's a woman or you know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: or you do have a bad one that just happens
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to have her colored personally, whatever's going on, or it's
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: TV and it's COVID. All these things are happening post endgame,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and people like, well, MCU sucks now, and what are
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Marvel doing? They're bringing back the old blokes that made
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: them all of the money that people loved and people like, well,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: now they're out of ideas. It's like, no, you hated
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the new stuff. Now we've got to bring back Carter.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: You know you don't like Weir. You're like, well, we
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: like eighty percent of Atlantis, we like eighty percent of
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the leads, but man, we just don't like her. We
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: don't have a Hammard. It's like, we can't give you
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: a Hammond. Will you take a card? It's like, yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: we'll take a card. Everyone loves Carter. There's one who
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't love CARDA give me two carters? Yeah, I mean
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Rodney would be all up for two carters.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I'd love that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Were you actually were you given that you kind of
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: knew what was happening with with where like you said,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you'd sort of seen some DVD covers, so you kind
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: of knew a little bit about about Carter coming over
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and so that were you even expecting, like we're to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: wake up in this episode or did you just think
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: that was I think when I was at a shock
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: when she kind of woke up and took the thing
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: off and still had her hair after they'd shaved it,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and like I.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Think when I watched stuff like that, I can't help
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: but look at it as a looking at it from
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a filmmaking or a TV production point of view, where
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it's like, well you wouldn't that's that might be how
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: characterize Like I said the same time, So okay, first off,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I would have expected her to wake up, because that's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: not how you write off someone that's been part of
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the show, like an actor of performer, I mean of
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: your crew and the cast. That's not how you fare
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: well them. Even if you want to get rid of them.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You do something a little bit better, a little bit nice.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna bring them back. Like I would understand
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: if there was a really really bad separation with the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: with production and it's like she just didn't come back
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: after last season, yeah, and that was like a double
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: or something like that, and that's why. Yeah, but it's like, no,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: they got her back, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it might make sense for the story that
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that woman got absolutely hammered. And then the killer line
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say before was Keller saying,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: even if she does wake up, and that's a massive if,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: she will never be the same person again. And I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: think that's whereas a viewer it got me. I was like,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: just as a sort of someone who was watching the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: characters and the storyline, I was like, oh shit, like
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: look at Sheppard, and I thought Joe Flanigan played that
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: very well. It was like, oh, it's already too late,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Like we can't I can't stop her from hurting herself
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: twelve hours ago, like she's it's done, and it almost
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: don't even have enough time to mourn not her because
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: she wasn't dead yet, but more on who she was
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and the fact that they'll never have her again, this friend,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: this boss, you know, because there was so much other
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: shit going on. So it still got me on that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: point of view that I'm like, oh shit, she's never
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: coming back. But then I had to remember, no, don't know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: she is an actor. This is a show. It's a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: work of fiction, and this is not a documentary that
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: they're filmed with real people dying from head injuries. Like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: she will come back in some way for them to fair. Well,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: she's not just going to flat line after being unconscious
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: for an episode and a half, Like that's just not
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: how they do things, you know, as much as you
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: watch a show sometimes and you go, well, in real life,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you know, we need to just you know, you need
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to be able to watch a show and the main
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: character sometimes just needs to die without any ceremony. Like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that's how real life works, you know. So it didn't
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: surprise me, but in the lead up to it, it's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: still got me a little bit that she was never
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: going to be the same now. The way that they
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: did bring her back. I never would have thought about it, because.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I thought that was really clever. Actually bring that back
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: from I want to say season two, Yeah, every season three,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: wasn't it, Yeah, because that was when we first met
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: the replicators. Yes, actually yeah, the start of season three.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And I think that's where it gets me too. Then
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I start thinking of it on like it's not just
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that they wanted to do it, because we're going to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: need to make things as bad as we can. It's like, well,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: let's make her let's let's really her up because we
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: know we can just bring her back anyway. Yeah, because
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of story, And it's I get it. You know, like
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: any sci fi superhero or anything, you can kill someone
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: because they have the ability to come back, either because
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: of their own powers or because of the technology available
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to them. But it's like almost in hindsight, Oh well
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: there was no there were no stakes. But at the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: same time, it took someone like Keller. It wasn't just
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that Rodney was too taken by all the other problems
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: going on Atlantis that he didn't have time to think
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: about it, or that Shepherd was barting his tongue because
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: he didn't want to think about it. We had f Keller,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: who's had about eighteen words to say in this entire
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: series so far, because she's shunning a new character for
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: her to pop up and go, hey, look, and she
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: had been trying to save her so many different ways.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, they cut half a bloody skull out to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: try to alleviate the other swelling brain, which is that's
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: wild holy shit.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Oh you should have asked your wife about that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean here I'm going, yeah, I saw
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that and Saw three. That's completely pausible. Well, on Saw three,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you actually obviously because it's you know, a bit more graphic,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you actually see them with the you know, the bits
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: taking the skull piece out and then.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Well apparently in this I believe it was this one,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the video was like on the monitor that was actually
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: one of those procedures being filmed.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Oh shit.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And then so juill State was there, and then there
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: was a like the medical advisor was off screen or
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you know what, instructing her how to be moving her
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: hands and she would be doing for it to sync
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: up with with that with that video.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, that's cool to go to that level,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: because it wasn't. They didn't linger on it because they
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: can't get too graphic in this sort of show. So
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I like that they that they went to that effort.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So I really did love to the the scene where
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: because Ronan kind of had nothing to do in this episode,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: it was it was the end of last season. Was
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: it where he finally got the got to have the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: conversation that I've referenced men many times where he's like,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I need to learn some science.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And even again, like, I know you said a lot
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't get a lot to do. But even
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: knowing that, watching the show for the first time, I'm
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: still continuously surprised at how little they give him to know. Yeah,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like knowing, I don't know if it's knowing where Jason
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Momoa ends up as being like, you know, he's not
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the number one actor in the world. But he's a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: pretty recognizable face.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: For him an A list, I reckon, I think.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: For name recognition and the fact that he's in you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: these massive movies and massive franchises and stuff like, Yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: he may as well be an A list if not
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: for like you know, Oscar in Talent or anything, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: in these amazing drama films or anything like that. I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: sure he'd like to do more of those. But against
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: a celebrity level, God, yeah, even as a person like
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Jason Momoa as an actor is just as big as
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: like some of the films that he's in, Like you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: see him, you don't need to know that he's in
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Fast and Furious so that he's Aquaman. It's like, oh no,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I just like Jason Momoa. He's just cool.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: He's the Richard Anderson. Now he's the one whose Titan
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: name goes.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Above them the title and saying that in watching at
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the start of this where he's getting the glass tugged
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: out of his shoulder and he's just like just turn
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: it out, and I'm like, ah, now I'm suddenly like fantasizing.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, and I know nothing about this first character
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: that fantasized.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Is I'm like, oh, where's a you know, it's I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: guess we could have you know, asked six months ago,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: oh if Aquaman met Ronan dex like, what's there? What
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: is that? Now? I'm like, okay, well, Lobo is a
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: space faring sort of guy. He and Ronan meet up
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: with each other. What's that like? Because since our last
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Atlantis record, obviously they've come out the DCU saying yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Jason m mull was going to play Lobo in the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: DCU going on, and he's about to start filming Superman
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Woman of Tomorrow. So it's.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it's a young Justice thing with See, That's.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying. I know, I know Nassy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So see if I prefer Roan and an Aquamant to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: meet because they both have an Atlantis in common, of course, yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I mean even just that that that fun in hindsight
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: for us, going oh, finally we would have known, you know, like, yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: This is But I did love his scene where he
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: kind of says goodbye to Weir. Yeah, I thought that
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: was really there is a good The only thing I
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: wish he'd done because he's I don't think he's ever
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: done it before is he says goodbye doctor Weir, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I wish he said Elizabeth.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I just think that would have been a really a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: really cool, poignant moment. But that's just me being the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: weird fan boy that I am.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: No, I get it because I mean you think about
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the way that like Tilk was the same, like, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it was always okay, it is Daniel Jackson, but it
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: was never just Daniel. But there was that one time
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: we made a real point on the was it in
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a dream sequence or something dream sequence or something like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: maybe Daniel died, but there was some one point where
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Tilk just referred to him as Daniel or maybe in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the future was it or something in one of those
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: episodes where it was very strange that man, yeah, maybe
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: that was.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Why he was dying on the planet and yes, hallucinating
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: as a fire man and.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: He referred to him as Daniel. No, it was that one, yeah, yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and he referred to him as Daniel, and it was
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: always you know O'Neill. He never called him jack you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: never called a Samantha or sam or anything like that.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: So when he does do stuff like that or would
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: sort of take down you know, that's not even on
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: an authority thing because he's not a military person. But
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: for Mama to do that, or for Ronan to do
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that as well, would have been a nice moment to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, you might die. I know you can't
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: hear me, but I will call you Elizabeth because I'm
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: in this moment, I'm thinking it was a friend rather
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: than the boss of this human expedition or another planet.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a nice moment. And then immediately
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: again a problem starts and the alarm start going off
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and they rush in. He's like, what did I touch?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And we as a viewer, go, you weren't even went
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you went physically touching it. It was fine, And the Kelly go, look,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you didn't do anything. You gotta leave.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because this is it's it just ship
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: just kept going wrong. And so yeah, it was I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: had written down here my notes, I just had cluster.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you need levity a lot of the time,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: but there was levity I think in the Chaos. I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: think the levity was that scene where the jumpers are
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: out there firing missiles and asteroids and things, and then
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Rodney having to turn back because there was one big
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: one that was heading straight towards the tower or whatever.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Or like, and someone feel free to correct me, but
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: it's like, I feel like maybe the puddle jumpers shouldn't
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: have been moving so fast, and then they wouldn't have
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: had to have like done a Yuian comeback, like if
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: they'd been moving slower, could they have not? Just could
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: they have not just been moving the same speed as
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Atlantis and then just kind of just sat out in
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: front of it and just like taking potshots at you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming the logic behind it was no the quicker
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: we get to the asteroid film destroyed when yeah, give
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: us more time there, so that could be a thing,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: but I was just like they are fanging their way over.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was that like great to see so
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: many of them out there, just bang bang bang. But
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: then when Sheepherd's that we need to do more and
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Roddie's like, I can't control for it. Once He's like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: well you came with the right attitude sort of thing,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and just see then four go in completely different directions,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: like that's some cool shit to watch. And then the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: jump as well, where they go out to fix the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: power thing whatever it was, and they had to do
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the jump, and and even that that's a weird sort
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of like, hey, here's here's the problem. And then it
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't really a problem. It's like, we've got to go
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: that far and he's like, well, I'm going to throw you,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and then just before it tugs on me, another word,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you can do it. I'm gonna let go of my
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you know, my gravity is going to be switched off
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: with the boots, and then and then you're in erse.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: She's going to drag me, and then we're going to
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: be fine. What if you miss, Well, we'll just have
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to hope that I don't. You've got to trust me.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And then as he throws him very slowly obviously, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: then it's just that massive wide then that sort of
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: moving you know, drone shot almost around and then by
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the time we get back to a close up, they
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: land and there was no peril. Like the peril wasn't
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: in the jump. The pairil was can they get it
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: done in time? Well, they probably could, except for the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: fact that there are micro asteroids piecing them like a sniper. Yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay, another problem because of a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: problem that it had you know it just yeah, I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: as a first timer, I really like it. I could
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: probably see why as a repeat viewer you might look
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: at this and go it's very much a middle chapter
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: or yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Because on how it ends. So I'm just like, yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I know they survived this.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I know they survived I know that this problem doesn't
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: end at the end of the episode. I know that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I've got to get to another episode before anything significant happens.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I just yeah, So maybe if I got to rewatch
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: this in a couple of years, yeah, I'm going to
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: feel differently about it. But I don't know.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I speaking of the you know, getting to the end
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: of it, and obviously we kind of left on a
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: cliffhanger here where he's like, oh, how do you feel
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: about a heist? And they're going to go back to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the Replicator home world and steal some zzpms. My only thought,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: didn't we basically destroy that planet last week? Like the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: whole the whole he's in the first strike is we
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: had that big thing with Apollo launching the thing, because
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you know, the start of the episode. Last week's episode
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, they had those those grainy gray
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: things like they're building stuff. You know, and we bomb
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the crap out of that, like at least half of
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: that planet got the Remember when the shot pulled back
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and there was like multiple explosions, like giant. Yeah, I
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: was like, is there anything.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Left weapons development on the other side of the planet.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Because I remember them saying it was a different planet.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, we do regular flybys of the Replicator
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: home world, so it is weird that, yeah, we're going
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to go back to this place that we bomb the
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: shit up, which furthermore, and it sucks that Brendan's not
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: here to defend himself. But further ball proves that the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Apollo and what's his name wrong because they did that
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: little blow up thing and everything's worse because of it,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and it didn't help because now they have to go
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: back and steal from that freaking planet.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm trying to remember the exact argument, but it
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: was it well.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: The preemptive first strike, and I was saying how it
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: was ineffectual, Yes, yeah, and not.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Like it was, but the plan wasn't. I think the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: decision was solid. It's like, we need to do this,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: How did it have worked? It would have been a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: great idea. The fact that it was a good idea
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that became ineffective. I don't think makes it a bad.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Well, because I think the original idea was they said,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: they said, look, we're going to do this now, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: then when we have other ships and stuff, we're going
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: to come through and we're going to mop up and
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: clean everything up pillage. And we was like, why don't
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: we just wait and do all that when we have
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: like the planetary wide anti replicated weapons and all that
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, Because if you remember, the anti replicated
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: weapons only take out the replicators, which means it would
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: have taken out every single person there, and then that
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: entire planet sized city with infinite zzzpms would have been
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: ours to take. Yeah. Yeah, So if we had listened together,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: if we had listened to doctor Weir and waited a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: couple like a month, maybe then you know, we could
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: have done all that. But because of our attack on them,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: then they retaliated with the beam satellite thing, and now
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: here we are, yes, and we had to pay the consequence.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is. It is a great consequence.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So for whatever reason we had to pay it, whether
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it be replicators or Rayther or otherwise. The fact that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: we have had to abandon the planet is like for
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a first time or it is massive to me. Yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I did not see that coming. And I think even
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I watched that first episode and like they're leaving and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: then I don't know whether in my head it was like, well,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: it was like some kind of subconscious block where it's like, well,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: they're not They're not going to leave. It's like they're
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: leaving until they sought out the satellite beam problems whatever,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and then we're going to go back because that's their home,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that's the where the plant. It is not that they
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: would keep going like it is. It's like, I don't
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: know Reese would have gotten to you know, the end
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of season eight and we go oh, season nine to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: ten are very different. And season nine and ten is
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: because they took place in the Alpha site Beta sites
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: because of the SUC got blowed up and we've got
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: no way back and this is a Sliders type thing
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: which talk about it in the future, but you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: we're just running emissions to protect Earth from off world
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: while also trying to get back or something like. It
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: would have been so different because the operation, the base
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: of everything is completely different, like this is like this
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: is yeah, and look, they might get they might find
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a place and resume operations, and for all aesthetics, you go,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: it's exactly the same as it was. It's no different, sure,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: and it's a cheap way for a TV show as
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: we know it to be just over halfway through its run,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: to make you seem like this and big consequences but
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: not really. But at the same time, for those people
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: they went through such peril there for twelve hours, twenty
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: four hours, forty eight hours, whatever.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: It was, it's kind But then, like I said to me,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: it's I think they wrote themselves into a corner because
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: now they don't have the history of the planet to
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: draw from you with the flage styles and all that
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: stuff I spoke about, And yeah, I don't think this
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: is a spoiler for you, because obviously we'll just talk
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: about it. It's yeah, we we never go back to that planet.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: We never see that planet ever again. But also we
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: get no resolution to the satellite bean weapon. Ye, it's
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: never a dress, it's never brought up address.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I guess it's still just there, just.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Bearing into that planet. At some point, maybe that planet
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: is just going to explode. I don't know, because I.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Get straight to the core. Yeah, yeah, go along.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And get a little cool. Poor little Sam, Poor little
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Sam the flag of Silas you spoke earlier about some
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: like the lighter moments you found with the the jumper
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: flight and all that kind of stuff, these were my
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: little comical light moments to help break it up, all right,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that means we'll need to Yes, yes, yes, you should
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: get the I will as soon as I've shut down
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: all the way.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the same thing. Wait, wait, what's going on here?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You know I did like that. I actually remembered it
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: going on longer than that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a few more.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't even that they were getting irritated with
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: each each other, like obviously Shepherd ended it. They just
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: they're that good, they're ahead of everybody else that they
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: can think at the same speed.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: And then there was a there was another moment as
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: well that I think just spoke to me on a
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: spiritual level, because you know, I spent about ten years
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: working in a hardware store where it was it was
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: me in my twenties and I think the next oldest
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: person that worked there was probably fifty. Ah, and you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: just a lot of a lot of issues where just
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: we trans at one point, we transition from with the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: old school tills to like, you know, barcode scanners and
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: things like that. There's a lot of issues. And now
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I work with my dad, who you know, he's in
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: his seventies and a lot of our work is involved
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: in computers and things like that. So this moment here,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: it spoke to me on a spiritual level. It's complicated.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: But imagine them as leaky pipes.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so you pump water through them, they leak, right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: dumb this down anymore, you're gonna get hit.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: That just props to my dad for not actually saying
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that to my face, the way that I have to
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: dumb things down sometimes there.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of moments, even the last
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and I felt like, I'm about I'm
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: going to be condescending if I answer a question the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: way like answer it in the way that it was
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: required considering how it was asked, you know, And it's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: from my wife Sarah asked me a Question's like, I
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: can't even give you a proper example. She'll ask me
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a question. I'm like, but it's the answer of that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: is so simple you couldn't possibly be asking for this answer,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: because that's so you have to know that you just
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: must be asking a far more You're needing a more
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: complicated answer, you need the second or third tier answer,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: but you're asking it in the most basic way because
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you know that what I'm asking. I'm like, you know
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: what color is the sky? And I'm like, it's blue?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, do you mean, like, do you want to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: go through how how the sunlight reflects and with the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: oceans depending on what the weather patterns are and blah blah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: what do you? And I have to sort of go well,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: either I play dumb, like I don't even know how
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: to answer the first because then a lot of the
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: times it ends up being that that first tear answer
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that she's after it, I'm like, oh, I didn't know that.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You didn't know that. Yeah, Because the way that I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: get through life, and I think I've explained this to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you before, I if I know something, I assume everybody
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: does because I'm an idiot. And if I understand something,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: if I can read someone a certain way, or if
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I can more what any problem whatever, if I interpret
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: something a particular way, I'm like, well, that's the most
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: basic level, anyone can do it, and that's where I stop.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: But everyone else is a far more intelligent adult human
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: being that can do it better than I can.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I've had to use phrases like I can
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: or if I want to get really petty, it's the
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think I have enough crayons to explain.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, I've heard a crayon.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know the crayons explain this to you.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's brilliant. I like that.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's that's a drift.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah again, thumbs up, two thumbs
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: up for me. I really enjoyed that. But I can, Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I can. I'm not anticipating not liking it the next
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: time I watch it, but I can definitely see why
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: someone who is repeat watching this might see it a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: certain way compared to what I do as a first timer.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Like, I have a few other things I
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: want to talk about, but I think I need to.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I desperately want to read them out here because I've
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: got some things, but I'm like, I think they're better
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: positioned for next week's episode Okay, yeah, I think they're
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: better positioned for Lifeline.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, Well, I look forward.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: To just tempted to do it as a two parter,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: like as we could do it as one episode.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I was surprised that we didn't. When you sort
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: of said, oh, we definitely need to do these as
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: two podcasts because they're like they are different from each other,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: but they're also a part I didn't think you said
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: there were a part two and three of a three
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: episode arc. You didn't even say they're a part one
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and part two, but it was like use different different
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: words to basically say that, And I was like, why
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: are we doing it as a as a two part.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I think I wanted to just let the weird stuff breathe. Yeah,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: give you rooms so we don't know, you know, what's
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: happening with all of just more.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Weird content for more episodes obviously, you know. So Brendan
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: was you, you're saying that, he go, let's just get
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: it done in one point, honestly, Jesus Christ, let's just
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: wrap up this weird things. So or do we want to?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. And now in hindsight, I'm thinking
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and I probably speak to this a little bit more
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: on the on the next episode, but there were moments
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: in this and thinking about, well, they would only do
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: this for this particular reason on the filmmaking level. They're
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: only doing this because maybe this person is leaving. And
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: here I've been talking about Weird and laughing at them, like, oh, Brendan,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I think on his farewell episode two episodes ago, and
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, mate, where are you going to be when
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: we need to defend Weird for the next two seasons
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And you guys ha ha ha ha ha ha, And
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, for all I know, she is in
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: every every episode for the rest of the season, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: she's just not the same. She's in every third episode
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and we just pop in and chat. I have no
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: idea what's going on.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: But they really message all my self control not to
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: give stuff away.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And you know what, that's the one thing I'm looking
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: forward to the most, knowing that at least for the
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: next two seasons while we cover Atlantis, that you are
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: going to have to well, I mean in general Stargate,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but for as long as we at least do Atlantis,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: that you are going to have to do is really
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: bite your tongue yea permanent time. I haven't got Brandon
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: looking after me, going, hey, it sounds a little bit
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: like you are trying to spoil something, so I look
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: forward to you sweating over the other side of the desk.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Look, I will always, I will always defend myself and
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: say that the reason I think, you know, he thought
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I was spoiling stuff because he knew what I was
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: alluding to, whereas I think I allude to stuff and
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, you don't know that I'm actually being
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: quite crypto.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And me I'm sitting there, yeah, like listening to you guys.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And then there would be moments is.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It Family Guy or the Simpsons, like I get knocked.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Down, but I'm all like I when Homer imagines, you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it goes into his head and it just shows like,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you know, a monkey picking a fleas of another monkey's back.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Or the donkey just sitting there just Yes.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: It was basically that there would even be moments where
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I would hear something that you guys, oh, we probably
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that, and I'll be like, don't worry,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I'll forget about it. Knowing that I would, but at
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: the moment, in that very moment, and for only that moment,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: forgetting the fact that I edit the friggin thing, and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: then I would have to listen to it at least once,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: maybe twice in some moments from sitting there trying to
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: find tune one frame, forward, back, whatever, that I'll hear
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: something four or five ten times. And even when I
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: re listened to it back, Oh, I had forgotten about
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: that until now. I wonder whether I'll forget about it again.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And yeah, flatline, I don't remember anything.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Keep in mind, it is something that crossed my mind
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: at some point. We are just going to turn on
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: his microphones and you're going to think we're talking about
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: in an episode of Atlantis, and I'm just gonna be
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: like fade in p three x eight eight A Robert Roth,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: and I'm just going to read you the entire script
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for the first ones.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And you're just going to have to sit through it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I recreate the entire thing as a one man show.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Well, there's certain boxes we're going to take
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: before the end of this podcast run. And I mean
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the first one will have to be yeah, yeah, we
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: will have to be well, that'll be one. We have
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: to get Brendan back for and then we don't even
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: allude to it as being a lost episode.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Which we we just pretend like we recorded it.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Reese isn't here today, Yeah yeah, and we just go
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and it will be like there was a lost publishing,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like there was an episode we recorded, we edited, we
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: didn't proubablish it because it got lost somewhere. We eventually
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: found it. We couldn't back catalog it, and we just
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: uploaded it and someone, you know, maybe on our YouTube channel,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we can order it in the right way.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: You better believe. Oh, I see, that would probably ruin
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the illusion. But I'd love to go back and just
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: get audio clips of you from the episode, pretending like
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: you knew what was going on.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like, why does he pretend like he's
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: never seen it? Comfort thirteen episodes ago? All right, that's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: episode two hundred and seventy one talk and episode one
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of season four. A lot of numbers there. Stargate Atlanta's
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: back next week for the lay the Line. I guess
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: part three of this three episode arc, which, yeah, what
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I do actually like because while there are great episodes
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of Stargate, there are great episodes of other television in
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the like twenty two episode format, the forty two minute
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: episodes of those twenty two episode formats where you can
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: see your problem happen and you go, I bet that's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: nineteen minutes, and you check the time code, You're like, yeah,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: that's nineteen minutes. Episode in like, they think they're facing
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: a problem, they think they work it out, something bad happens.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: You're like, yep, no, this is where they go back
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: to the drawing board. So I like, when we do
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: have a three episode arc that you know, can at
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: least surprise you because we don't need to have things
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: wrapped up two thirds of the way through or in
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: with you know, in the final fifth of the storyline.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm digging it. SG one. I now get
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to watch it for the first time in my life.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: What did I say? SG one, Oh, well, we didn't.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Even really address the whole card on us of it all.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: But we can do that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Oh oh my god. Yeah we will because obviously.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: She pops back up because like I said, I've seen LiLine.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: It was very it was very brief in this episode. Yeah,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I think there's more. There's more, there's more heff next week.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah that yeah, first year, for the first time ever,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I'll be watching this back to back, so I wonder
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: whether I'll be able to take in a lot more
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and commit it to memory. Yeah, rather than having to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: duck between.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Different Galaxy seasons.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Go we quicker two like definitely. Yeah, And like I
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: was saying, like that, I've liked all of it so far,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: but the way that you've went out season four and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: five not five, whereas I'm going to be going in
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: thinking about that, but I'm also going to be getting
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: it on a weekly basis, and so it might be
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: better to me than the first three seasons, just as
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: far as consistency levels go.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: So oh, there's some people that think, you know, there's
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: some episodes in season four people just say that it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: the best episode of the entire series. Yeah, I mean
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: so for me, there's just a lot more. There's less consistency,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: and there's more ups and downs. Yeah, there are some.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: There are some you know, eight out of ten, nine
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: out episodes in here, but I think there's also a
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: couple of like two out of tournament. So it's just
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: a bit and because you know, yeah, I.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Just you're doing very well. You are sweating, and you're
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: read so well.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Let's just from the talking you told me about Jesus Christ.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. Lave On episode two hundred
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and seventy two.
• 45:10
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• 45:20
  Speaker 2: it's too late.