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#43: Berlin election, Jens Spahn, WG prices up · 20 Percent Berlin Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to the 20% Berlin podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: My name is Maurice Frank and I'm joined by Andrew Bulkeley.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: Andrew, how are you doing?
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  SPEAKER_02: What you been up to?
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just an Oktoberfest.
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  SPEAKER_00: Once a year we go to Oktoberfest.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, you can only go once a year, but we go
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  SPEAKER_01: every year to Oktoberfest.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a blast, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would think I would hate that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I hate big public sanctioned events.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oktoberfest.
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  SPEAKER_00: They do a good Oktoberfest at Oktoberfest.
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  SPEAKER_02: I went when I was 19.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the only time I've been.
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  SPEAKER_02: And for some reason, my friend's village paid for all the beer.
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  SPEAKER_02: They had reserved an entire table.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just have sort of like little glimpses of memory,
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  SPEAKER_02: like waking up in a puddle,
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  SPEAKER_02: fainting on the kitchen floor of my friend's mother's house the next day.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it was memorable.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you could do it without getting that stupid drunk.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was 19.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great because you just get drunk and it ends at 10.30.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's over.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have to go home.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's like 20 euros for a liter of beer, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's six, I think
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  SPEAKER_01: it's 14.50, was it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then,
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  SPEAKER_00: but all,
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  SPEAKER_00: like my son lives there and all of his Munich friends were like,
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  SPEAKER_00: no, you just give them, you just pay 20.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's like airport dollars, like they don't count.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: Well, welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hey, I bought you some Leipkogen.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: Merry Christmas.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: September is the only time you can actually get this Christmas cookie in
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  SPEAKER_02: the supermarket in Germany.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wait, it's sold out after that?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's sold out, like, by October.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you gotta eat it now.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or just hoard it until Christmas.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't want one?
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  SPEAKER_00: I already had one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: You didn't notice when you opened it?
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  SPEAKER_00: I love Leipkogen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a big fan as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: What have you been up to?
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  SPEAKER_02: I am running like a maniac because I'm trying to keep up with Igor of Handpick Berlin.
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  SPEAKER_02: He did the marathon, so I'm stepping up my game.
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  SPEAKER_02: I ran 13K this morning.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've run two marathons.
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  SPEAKER_02: What?
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  SPEAKER_00: I ran the Berlin Marathon twice.
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  SPEAKER_02: At what age?
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  SPEAKER_00: 40... Yeah, 46, 47.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow, not that long
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  SPEAKER_02: ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: 10 years ago.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, was it?
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  SPEAKER_00: After, I think it was my first marathon, no,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it was after my second,
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  SPEAKER_00: I met this French guy in a restaurant and he said,
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  SPEAKER_00: I have total respect for someone who runs one marathon and no respect for someone
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  SPEAKER_00: who runs two.
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  SPEAKER_02: How were your joints
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  SPEAKER_00: after the marathon?
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  SPEAKER_00: My joints were fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't, I don't really have that problem.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had a problem with my Achilles tendon for some weird reason, but fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's all just training.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you train?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: For like a year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, six months.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's impossible to get a spot in the marathon.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's what's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Back when we were doing it, was easy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got like the last year where you were guaranteed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I actually got into the New York marathon once,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it was the year we were moving back from Portland to Berlin.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't have time to train.
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  SPEAKER_02: Berlin is, I think, one of the fastest marathons in the world because it's so flat.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's flat, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's kind of, I hate those things where it's like, it's the fastest marathon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because it's the easiest.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bro, what was your time?
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  SPEAKER_01: 4.50 or something.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that good?
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  SPEAKER_00: After my brother told his colleague what our times
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  SPEAKER_00: were, I ran with my brother and he told his colleague and his colleague was like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, it's a running race.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I'd be happy to finish
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  SPEAKER_00: at this point.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all training.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like everybody thinks it's so difficult,
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  SPEAKER_00: but as long as you train, as long as you work up to it, it's easy.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think like my lungs could do it, but my legs couldn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the legs, it's all easy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just a pain in the ass.
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  SPEAKER_00: The problem is time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Find the time to run 30 kilometers.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a day.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're running for a day, basically.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just training.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've got to do it two or three times.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you get to see all of Berlin.
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  SPEAKER_00: You get to see parts of Berlin.
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  SPEAKER_01: You'll never, when are you going to go to Steglitz?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you, it's literally through the entire city.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's super cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like running through Moabit, nice, Mita, nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then you're over there in Friedrichshain and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did my kids mini marathon on Saturday, which is just
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  SPEAKER_02: around the block.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like the four kilometers to the...
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  SPEAKER_02: It was 10.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was 10.
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  SPEAKER_02: 10K.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then with the mini mini with the kids on Saturday is like 1.4.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, but this was around the school.
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  SPEAKER_02: Around the kids' school.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was like 15 laps around
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  SPEAKER_01: the school.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was about 10K.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not bad for a seven-year-old.
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  SPEAKER_00: We used to do, what's that called?
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  SPEAKER_00: Staffelmarathon?
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you call that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Relay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Relay marathons at Tempelhoferfeldeschool, or Kita.
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  SPEAKER_02: No kidding.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good for you, Andrew.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did several of those.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what are we going to talk about today?
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  SPEAKER_02: We're going to talk about sort of the aftermath of the Berlin election
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  SPEAKER_02: and what's happening there.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're going to talk about...
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  SPEAKER_02: The prices of flat shares have gone crazy.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're going to talk about a little national story.
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  SPEAKER_02: Jens Spahn has got himself in a pickle.
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  SPEAKER_02: The guy, our favorite CDU politician.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we wanted to talk about the Olympics or the fact that we
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: won't be having them.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Olympics.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then we're going to have the Bears Knees section with some of our favorite stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we haven't really talked about the Berlin election since the election
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  SPEAKER_02: on this podcast because we just haven't done a podcast since then.
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  SPEAKER_02: It seems like weeks ago, but it's actually like, like 10 days or something.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, literally perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_02: So as everyone knows, Die Linke won the election.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ereff, Elif, Erelp.
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  SPEAKER_02: By about 26%.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Greens and the Linke have signaled that they want to start Sonderungsgespräche,
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  SPEAKER_02: which is sort of like the meetings before the meetings,
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  SPEAKER_02: to discuss a possible coalition, which would be headed by the Linke.
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  SPEAKER_02: And of course...
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  SPEAKER_02: The conservative and pro-Israel newspapers like Tagesspiegel and Spinger and Billet
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  SPEAKER_02: and all these people,
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  SPEAKER_02: they are just totally laying into Elif Eralp and the Linker
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  SPEAKER_02: because they're accusing them of anti-Semitism.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're accusing them of basically wanting to install
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  SPEAKER_02: a Islamo-socialist caliphate sort of in its headquarters in Neukölln.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's all pretty crazy.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's all like, it's like very, very low level.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will probably never vote for Die Linke.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's only one case where I can see me voting for Die Linke.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's my son wants to become a Die Linke,
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  SPEAKER_00: or is considering becoming a politician for Die Linke.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would vote for him.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would otherwise not vote for Die Linke.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this crazy,
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  SPEAKER_00: virulent Die Linke hate from the right wing of Germany,
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  SPEAKER_00: conservatives, has me defending Die Linke all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: To be in with, they've already been in the Berlin government.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were a minor part, a junior partner in the red, red, green thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But they've been here forever.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we know who they are.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, the thing is the link has completely changed since then.
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  SPEAKER_02: Over the last three,
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  SPEAKER_02: four years,
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  SPEAKER_02: they've focused less on the sort of former East German clientele,
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  SPEAKER_02: which went over to the BSV party.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they're more focused on maybe people who would vote for the Greens or people
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  SPEAKER_02: who are immigrants or recent immigrants or have an immigrant background.
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  SPEAKER_02: And because they're very into anti-racism, they're very much have a clear stand on Gaza.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure how relevant that is for Berlin politics.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they were very much about affordability and housing.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're taken, totally inspired by Mamdani, New York.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's a different Linke than it was.
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  SPEAKER_00: I guess, like somewhat.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's unfair to say it's a different Linke when half the people are the same.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, a bunch did leave over this anti-Semitism thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: but the Berlin Linke left,
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  SPEAKER_00: but the head of the parliamentarian group of Die Linke is the same here in Berlin.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's a little weird to say it's a different,
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  SPEAKER_00: they have a different focus maybe, but it's the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I'm realizing with this anti-Semitism debate is Germany has a real problem
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  SPEAKER_00: of differentiating between anti-Semitic and pro-Palestinian.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what they mean.
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  SPEAKER_00: They mean Die Linke is pro-Palestinian.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think Die Linke is inherently out there saying we hate Jews.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think they're saying we kind of feel like Israel is being unfair to Palestine.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think there are some people maybe who are associated with Die Linke or who support Die Linke.
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  SPEAKER_02: Who are maybe just a little bit too radical anti-Israel for mainstream folks' tastes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like there was a guy who showed up at the Neukölln election party called Ibrahim.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he is a Palestinian activist who was involved with an organization called
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine or PFLP.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: And their armed wing fought alongside Hamas on October 7th in their attacking on Israel.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's, you know, that's a little sketchy for some people.
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  SPEAKER_02: 100%, but 100%.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you don't want those people near the party.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just think it's a lot of things when they say anti-Semitic,
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  SPEAKER_00: they actually mean pro-Palestinian.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think, yeah, and kind of like radical, you know, like radical angry vibes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, that makes...
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, sort of centrist type people quite nervous.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're just trying to downplay DeLinca and I just think it's absurd.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's weird because now I end up defending DeLinca like in social media debates
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  SPEAKER_00: and I don't even, I would never vote for them, but like
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: chill out, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, give them a chance.
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  SPEAKER_01: The messed up thing
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  SPEAKER_02: is that in a way,
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  SPEAKER_02: There are people who I respect on both sides of this debate.
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  SPEAKER_01: So one second, I'll be like,
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_02: oh, no, there's nothing to see here.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then the next thing,
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  SPEAKER_02: I'll listen to an interview with somebody like Gunnar Fauci,
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  SPEAKER_02: who's the integration commissioner for Neukölln.
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  SPEAKER_02: She's like, yeah, they're Neukölln, they're totally anti-Semitic.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, what do we think here?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a total head fuck.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think there's some problems.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then there's also this one Die Linke parliamentarian in Berlin,
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  SPEAKER_00: Kochak, who's obviously buddies with the Remos, the mafia family.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_02: Farad Kochak, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously friends with them, trying to deny it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that doesn't help.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's in his defense.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's got he's been through a lot like he suffered from a right wing.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, some neo-Nazi basically firebombed his car outside of his house.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_02: So he's like big on the anti-racism thing.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's basically why he went into politics.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think he,
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  SPEAKER_02: and he's done a lot of community work in Neukölln,
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  SPEAKER_02: but maybe he,
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: some of his outreach was a little bit sketchy, like,
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: the Remo's,
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: like he asked the Remo family leader,
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: godfather of the Remo's, Isa Remo, to share a video of him.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, he has his son.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: He said, here, share this among your people.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Tell your people to spread it.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that suggests that in a way it's using their help to campaign.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's questionable.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's friends with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's some questionable things there.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: I just think we elected, everybody voted for Die Linke.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Chill out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not everybody.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: 26%.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: 26%, I mean.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's not everybody.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's not a landslide.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty good for Berlin.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not the 42% the AFD got in Sachsen.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I just get tired of everybody piling on this.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, let them govern.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: So my prediction is that basically the Greens and the SPD are just going to use this
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_02: as sort of like a weapon in their coalition talks to get what they want.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and like the sword of Damocles.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because the alternative is actually CDU got like 20%.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: CDU got a little bit less than the Linca.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: So you could form,
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: we could just keep the same government, or no,
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: you would have to add the Greens to the government we have now to form
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: a ruling coalition.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: So it could be a CDU-led coalition.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody really wants that.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but if talks with the Linca don't work out.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: How long do you think this is going to take?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it should take that long at all because they've already ruled together.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: Government formation, coalition formation takes forever in Germany.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, hopefully just a couple months.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: Just a couple?
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, how long does it take?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: It should be like two weeks of meetings.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: You're asking me.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think two weeks.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think a week.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: The problem is, have you been in a German meeting?
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: I've tried to avoid them.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: I hate German meetings.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's a great saying about German meetings.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everything's been said, but not by everyone.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: So then everyone needs to say that.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody has.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: How many?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: I've been to all these meetings where three people say the exact same thing.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to throw my pen cap at them.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's called democracy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's called Mitbestimmung.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: Moving on, Andrew, you wanted to...
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Spinner yarn about Jens Spahn.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Not a yarn, actually, just a story that's real.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: Jens Spahn is a CDU politician who just,
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: it's amazing how many scandals he has and he never loses his job.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: He was the Minister of Health during Corona.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: What do we say in English?
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: Corona or COVID?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: COVID-19.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: During COVID-19, orders almost 6 billion worth of masks.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Only two billion of them were ever used.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: The rest of them had to be destroyed for some crazy costs.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: And there's just all kinds of these masks went to corrupt politicians right and left, basically.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: But didn't some of the orders go through his husband?
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little bit...
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: The whole thing with his husband is weird.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: His husband works for publisher Burda.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: And Burda actually...
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: The owner of Burda had sold some masks to the government.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so people are saying, oh, he worked as an intermediary, but it's never been proven.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't feel like that's such a huge scandal.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean...
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: Back then everyone was like, why doesn't Germany have any mosques?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Get them wherever you can get them.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: So he got them, but there was a lot of waste with this.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the first scandal.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: The next scandal is he joins the fight against surrogate mothers.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's illegal to use surrogate mothers in Germany.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot get a baby through a surrogate mother.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: What does he do like six months ago?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Shows up like, here's my baby from a surrogate mother in America.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't six months ago.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: How long ago was it?
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was like two or three months ago.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: Two or three months ago, whatever.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Summer.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Shows up with a baby.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Having said I'm against surrogate motherhood.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: It has to be said he's gay.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's married to this Berta guy, the guy that works for Berta.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Daniel Funka, I think his name is.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: I heard the mother was well paid.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Probably, but you can't come out and say- I
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: think she got like 200 grand for it.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: But it's this classic thing of a politician saying,
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: you people can't use surrogate mothers, but I can.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: So then all of this scandal, the baby scandal, comes together in another scandal.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's on the budget committee, the national budget committee.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, the baby scandal,
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: that scandal, he was parliamentary head of the CDU, the Conservative Party.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: He lost that job because of this hypocrisy with the baby thing.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: Loses that job.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: So then the other day,
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: Bildzeitung,
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: trying to show how cool they are that they don't care that he's gay,
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: when actually they probably do.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Show a picture of him standing at the Sardinian airport with his baby and says,
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Jens Spahn on vacation with his baby.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, hey, look at this great human interest story of Jens Spahn.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: They send like a paparazzo after him?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: Apparently.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: The problem is,
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: at that time,
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: he was supposed to be at a budget committee meeting and he had called in sick.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Why is that funny, Andrew?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because the build side, there's a couple of things.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Number one,
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: the build side,
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: all of their headlines,
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: all of their news is to support populist and right-wing conservative politicians.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: So they thought they were supporting these conservative politicians.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: However,
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: Jens Spahn was supposed to be at the budget committee meeting,
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: had called in sick for the budget committee meeting
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: after Chancellor Friedrich Matz this summer said,
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: if you call in sick from day one, you need a note from your doctor.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Did he hand in a note?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: I guess not.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: We don't know, though, because of Dalton shots.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: He could have been standing with tonsillitis at the Sardinian airport.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe he handed in a note.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: He might have handed in a note.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: To be fair, Meatsa's thing is not a law yet.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: You don't yet have to turn in your note on the first day.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't you travel
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: if you're sick?
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think traveling when you're sick generally is a bad idea, right?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're just spreading COVID.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: I hope he had a mask on the plane.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, but he did not while he was holding the baby.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: Give parents a break.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's rough.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's rough being parents of a baby.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Give the guy a break.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: You can't call in sick to the federal government.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: To the federal government he called in sick.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: I got once accused of lying to America.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's calling in sick to the federal German government and is partying in Sardinia.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, partying with like a three-month-old baby?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you can't.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they sleep for two or three hours.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: On top of all of this, there's also buddies with Peter Thiel, which is kind of gross.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: There's this great documentary series on ARD right now, Inside CDU.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a series that it's kind of, it feels like Stromberg.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: It feels like The Office.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: But it's actually them following the CDU through all of these elections, these recent elections.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: There used to be a joke about President Bush.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember who made it.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: But there was a joke that said about President the second Bush,
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: he's the kind of guy who does on Wednesday what he promised to do on Monday,
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: regardless of what happens Tuesday.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Which perfectly describes the CDU because nothing works.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: They go through all these elections.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: You follow these politicians through these elections where they just fail.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: The CDU just fails.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, I have a theory about these elections, these last three.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: They are the first three truly social media elections.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: They were entirely decided on social media.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: And AFD.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: They know how to do that.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: They have these personalities as disgusting as they might be.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Or whatever.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: They're likable for their crowd.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: And really simple messaging.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: And the CDU and the SPD and all the rest of them,
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: they just have no idea how to deal with that medium.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny because a big part of this Inside CDU documentary shows
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: the social media side of them.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Shows the social media team making films with The politicians.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: There were some other,
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: it actually shows some other minor mistakes or sort of minor major mistakes that
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: the CDU has made.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like they fired,
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: they have these words Staatssekretären,
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: you know, they're like half ministers have not.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Merz fired one and she was East German.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: So part of the big criticism of the CDU is they have no East Germans.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: So he fired this one woman.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: He promoted Philipp Amtour, who's also from Mexico.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: That guy is not good on camera.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: He's so cringe.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: His glasses, man, they're like from 1949.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: They're not in a cool vintage way.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Go watch episode three from Inside CD.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's all about Anto.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's so cringe.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: My wife, at one point, she goes, that guy's got a condition.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: So he, and I feel bad for him now because he got a job at the Chancellery.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so he's from Meck Palm up on the Baltic Sea.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: So he brought a Stronkob,
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: one of these little beach chair things,
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: these big beaches had to put on the balcony, which I think is totally legitimate.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: But because of this documentary, he now had to take it away.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because everybody laughed at him.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like,
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: there's all these things in this documentary to laugh at about the CDU,
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: but not that dude
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: deserves his Stronkob.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: And they just disappeared in the Mecklenburg-Vorpommern election.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: They're not in the state parliament.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: And you see how he's really good buddies with Matz, with the Chancellor Matz.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: So I think his career is going to end with Matz in the next couple of months.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Matz is also not very telegenic, as we used to say.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: I get tired of this.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: I hate this excuse.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: Politicians love to roll out this excuse.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I just didn't communicate correctly.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: I actually think that's some truth on that, Andrew.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a lie.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, Matt, the problem is your policies suck.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: And you can't keep coming out
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: and saying these elections say we don't like your policies and you can't come out
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: and go like, oh no, but the policies are good.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of disagree with you, Andrew, because, okay, so remember Schroeder?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: He's the only chancellor who's ever reformed Germany.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: He was like a central-left social democrat,
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: but he slashed The welfare state, unlike anybody, you know?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: And everyone hated him for it, but he did it.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: And what happened?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Social Democrats suffered for like three decades, but...
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is,
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: is that you can,
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think Germany does need some reforms now,
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: and like just trimming off some spending on the Kantenkasa and
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: a few other departments and the thing with the sick notes,
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: it's not like some major reform.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think in a way people are a little too comfortable.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: They do need to, everyone needs to tighten their belt a little bit.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: But it's not about, you can't come out and so now we're going to punish.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't bring up the real reform.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: What the problem is, is the retirement.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: The retirement is the issue.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that's how Schwesig, now we're talking only national.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's how Schwesig pulled it off in Mac Palm,
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: where she said,
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: I disagree with the government's retirement policy
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: because it unfairly punishes East Germans.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: She's in, CDU is out.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: But you can always find some group
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: who's feeling unfairly punished.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but in this case, it's everybody.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Right, then equally punish everyone.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: What I'm saying is the problem is it's not Matt's messaging, it's his policies.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: I disagree because working past 63 is not that bad.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: It is when you've started work at 40, 18,
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: because you're a blue collar worker and you've already paid into it, what, 45 years?
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Why should you not be able to get out of it?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: And there's guys called Florian who studied like political science and
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: then they spent like three years traveling in South America and then they got a job
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: when they were 32.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I will give
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: you a little
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: bit in the messaging,
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: like they should have seen that this little tiny tweak...
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: How are you going to fix the retirement pension system?
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not that way.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you got a better idea?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's not my job.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: See, SPD is not going along with it, so they're going to have to come up with a better idea.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know what's crazy?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: I always talk about Denmark because they live there.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: My partner is Danish.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: A social democratic government pushed the retirement age to 70.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's absurd.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: In the next 15 years, it's slowly going to rise up to 70.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: A left-wing or center-left government did that, and nobody complained about it.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: They just kicked the can down the road.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Did you speak Danish?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: A little bit.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: The problem is you weren't in the culture.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: You weren't like, and you were reading Danish Twitter this whole time.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: So to you,
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: it looks like they just did it immediately,
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: but you weren't inside the whole bubble listening to what was actually going on.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: To be fair, my girlfriend is a journalist.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: She does follow these things.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but like the way you read German news all the time.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, fine.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: So it might seem like.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: But they did pass it.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it'll be changed.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's no way that'll stay.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_02: But maybe everyone's going to be healthy.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like we were all going to be running marathons at 70.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Did you try to sign up for the Berlin Marathon?
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: When's the registration?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's already sold out already.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the registration doesn't open until October or something like that.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: What's next?
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: We wanted to talk about how Via Gui's, aka flat shares, are getting more expensive.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: So real estate prices got more, rents got more expensive, so Via Gui's got more expensive?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty much, yeah.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: So a room in a shared flat in Berlin now costs an average of 600 euros per month,
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: including utilities, according to Empirica Research.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Who's that?
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: I just, I don't know.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I love how us journalists,
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: we just quote people,
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: we just quote things, we're like, oh yeah, of course, they know what they're doing.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: It was quoted in the Tagesspiegel, so.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: Are you saying we're Lügenpresse?
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: no, no.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's funny.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: As a journalist,
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: every time I would write these things and sometimes I would think...
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: We're not actually going to go and like interview
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: like a thousand people
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: in flat shows.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: I just think it's funny.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: So Berlin is,
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: along with Freiburg in the Black Forest,
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: is the fifth most expensive town for students in Germany.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Fifth?
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was like the second.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: Munich's VEG room in Munich costs 790 euros.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: Hamburg, 659.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Cologne, 630.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: Frankfurt, 620.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: That rent has gone up by 130 euros per month in the last five years.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: In 2021, it was 470.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, my son was in student housing in Munich, so
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: it's not bad.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: My daughter...
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was like 400.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: And he had little...
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: In the Olympic Village?
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: And he painted the outside?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's outside of it, yeah.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: But you're just allowed to paint the outside?
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: part of the thing.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: You can paint it whatever you want.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think my brother may have lived in that briefly.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's great.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's really nice.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's on the edge of town, but not really.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's like just north of Schwaben.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: The cheapest university towns are Wolfsburg, 306.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: Which is a dump, let's face it.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: And Greysel, which is pretty nice.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: There's only 350 there.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: Here on the Baltic Sea there.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's a quaint little town.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a green island in the sea of AFD.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: So this is the other thing I think.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: This is part of why Die Linke is doing so well.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and the AFD is that Here's one problem that's been around for a decade now
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: and nobody has done anything, nothing about housing generally or student housing.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing, nothing has been done.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: The one people who tried it was the red, red, green government here in Berlin with a red cap.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm against red caps, but at least they tried something.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody's done anything.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, in Hamburg, they did something.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: They reduced the cost of red tape by 30%.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: And that makes it cheaper to build stuff.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: And they're actually building more stuff in Hamburg.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: So why aren't we all copying Hamburg?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's called the Hamburg model.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: That should be law.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like nobody's doing anything.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Shit takes time.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: It shouldn't take this long, especially when it's a crisis.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's an emergency.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: It really is.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like just on my run today,
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: like 300 meters from my house,
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: in the last two days,
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like a sort of,
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: there's like a VEG of homeless people and they've built like a huge shelter.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's like 15 meters long.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy how productive you are on meth.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: What's that?
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy how productive
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: you are on meth.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like a house.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: Go to America.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Those things exist all over the place.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: There could be a shanty town growing in my local park.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: The shanty towns of Kleingarten, Schreibergarten.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's funny.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: I had this American girlfriend and when she came to Germany for the first time,
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: she's like, what are all these little houses?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of poor people in Germany, right?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: All these little houses that you see next to the train tracks on the way from the airport.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Sort of like shanty towns.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: What I never understand are the ones,
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: the people who have those little garden allotments right next to the Autobahn?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: How is that relaxing?
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: White noise.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: I lived next to a major street in college and everything in my house was covered
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: with like black slime.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: I used to live in Torstrasse in Mitte and I hated summer because I had to open the window.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so loud.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: And even in the winter it was just like this deep rumble like all night long.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: You had to be drunk to sleep.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Which at that point in your career.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what's next?
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: Andrew, speaking of the Olympic Village in Munich, we have some Olympic news.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it was actually the day after the election or two days after the election,
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: Berlin came out and said it would not bid to bid for the Olympics.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: Everything in Germany is complicated.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: So we wouldn't bid to bid.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: You had to bid to bid.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's like the meeting before the meeting.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: There were three areas, Berlin.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, there were four, Hamburg, Berlin, North Rhine-Westphalia, Munich.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: We're all going to bid for the Olympics.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Hamburg had a referendum.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Hamburg said, no, we don't want the Olympics.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: The NFA, North Rhine-Westphalia, they had a referendum.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: They said, we do want the Olympics.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Munich had a referendum.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: They said, we do want the Olympics.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Berlin didn't ask anybody.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: They just said, we want the Olympics.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: And then whoever,
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: then they have to go to the Berlin Olympic Committee,
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: who then decides,
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: the German Olympic Committee,
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: and say, who's going to bid for the Olympics to get the Olympics?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Then they will go to the actual Olympic Committee.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: So the day after the election,
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: two days after the election,
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: disgraced,
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always going to call him disgraced,
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Mayor Sven Wegner,
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: went on TV and said,
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: we're not going to bid to bid for the Olympics because we don't really have
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: a chance.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: And Elif Eralp, he said, we're not doing this because Die Linke doesn't want to do it.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: Although she didn't.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: What does Die Linke have against it?
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: Die Linke just doesn't want to do it.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: They think it's a waste of money.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's capitalist or something.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: So they're just against it.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: So then he came out and blamed it on Elif,
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: where she's not even in government right now, like not running government.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's absurd to blame it on her.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: In fact,
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: it had come out that like
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: the German Olympic Committee had said Berlin pretty much has no chance.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: They're just like, they're not looking great.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: So Berlin took back their bid to bid to save face.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's funny.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: Both of the German Olympics or Summer Olympics have been problematic.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, the Berlin Olympics, 1933, for obvious reasons.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't understand.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: And then the 1972 Olympics in Munich where some shit happened there too.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Basically,
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: some Palestinian terrorists murdered 10 Israeli athletes,
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: cold blood, and a German policeman.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a really good movie out about the journalists covering that.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember what it was called, but a really good movie.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they were staying in the Olympic Village where my son is staying
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: or stayed.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's creepy.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is it the massacre that happened right there?
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, the massacre was actually when they flew them, they were flying everybody out to take them.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they hijacked a plane, right?
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if they hijacked a plane.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think they were flying them too high to get a plane.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then the GSK-9 or the SD car, whoever, jumped in, and that was when the shooting happened.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: They may have killed one guy in the
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: Olympic Village,
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: but I think
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: most of the deaths came at this airport.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: So now Munich could get the Olympics again.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: So then finally this weekend,
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: the German Olympic Committee decided whether it would be North Rhine-Westphalia
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: or Munich.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: And they decide Munich can now bid for the Olympics.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: The Olympics will be award, the location will be announced in 2029.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: So Munich now has two years to bribe the members of the International Olympic Committee.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know what?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: North Rhine-Westphalia doesn't really roll off the tongue.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows what the hell that is outside of Germany.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's just a bunch of towns with closed down factories plus Dusseldorf.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the Rust Belt and Dusseldorf.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_02: What do they have there?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the problem with Nordrhein-Westfalen is it's actually one big city.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a big,
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: like, it's a lot of mid-sized cities linked together, but they're all very close.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Lots of chemical plants.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's why Taylor Swift plays in Gelsenkirchen,
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: which nobody's ever heard of,
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: but it's because Gelsenkirchen is surrounded by a bunch
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: of other Gelsenkirchens.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's one of the poorest places in Germany.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was going to do a video about how shitty it is,
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: and then I thought, you know, you can't kick someone when they're down.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: What about Duisburg?
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: You've been there?
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: I've been to Duisburg.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the thing is all of these cities,
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: they have this industrial past and they're trying to revive them.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: So Duisburg has a super cool park that is an old steel oven, which these things are hot.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: They go high because the heat has to like... A smelter?
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a smelter.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Super cool.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then they redid the harbor.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: So like you can have nice concerts and stuff at the harbor.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, it's just alcoholics sitting on concrete steps, but...
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: It looks nice.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: I discovered a really funny podcast based in Duisburg.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's called Brennpunkt.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know it?
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's like this sort of funny, like three dudes sitting around in a flat in Duisburg.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: And one of them is like a German dude.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then one of them is, I think, like an Arab.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's Arab background.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: And the other one has a Turkish background.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: And they're just sort of like shooting the shit.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's hilarious.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: Brennpunkt.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: So these towns are kind of,
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: they have like nice,
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: they always have nice areas because they're getting lots of funds to try
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: to develop them with something better.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: But there's no,
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: there's nothing,
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: there's none of mass, there's none of people there to make these things nice.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe the Olympics, you know, they could spruce it up for the Olympics.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: I was against, I was part of the people who didn't want the Olympics to come to Berlin.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: But then I've noticed something when I host sometimes at the big comedy club here,
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: downstairs comedy club,
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: and you always ask the audience like, Hey, so who's here from out of town?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, why are you here?
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it is crazy how many people come to Berlin for like music, concerts.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: The NFL, the NFL was here.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: At least half the audience, three-fourths of the audience were in town for the NFL game.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that means they're putting money in my pocket.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: So then I was like, all right, maybe we should have the Olympics.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: But right when I converted to the Olympics, that's when Wigner called it off.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then you could leave town during the Olympics and make
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: a packet like renting your place out.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: Disgraced Mayor Wigner.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that too.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: What's old Kai going to do?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: Go back into insurance?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you get two years of pay.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: You get two years of full pay.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: And what is the pay?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: What's his pay?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's like 100 grand.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: More than that.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like 150 grand.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: Sweet.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's so, like, you want to save money as a politician?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: Get rid of Urbaganscout.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: When everybody else loses their job,
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: they don't get their two years continued paid so they can,
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: to ease their transition back to life.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: So, do you think Munich's going to get it?
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: I guess whoever can bribe these guys the most.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_02: They have nice mountains.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: They have landscapes.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: They have, they have like an identity, you know?
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: I hate, you know, I hate to say it.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's a really nice place.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's a really great time.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: Why do you hate to say it?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because I'm, you know, a Berliner.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: But it's just, you go there, you just, it's like going on vacation, but you don't leave Germany.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like going to German Disneyland.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Everything works there.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: There's this great little Wietzhäuser on every corner
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: that are just very nice traditional German restaurants.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: There's a couple of rivers.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: You can even surf on the wave in that one river.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why every town that has a river does not make a surfing thing.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can do it.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: They know how to do it.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: So why doesn't every, if I'm mayor of a town.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the spray is just too slow and too wide to do it.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: I would do it anyway.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_02: You'd have to build some kind of dam, like a weir or something.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, is that it?
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, that would cost probably like 20 million euros.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: Go down to Museum Zinzel.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: There's a dam there already.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: You can build one there.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lock.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't we start a citizens initiative?
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's already the trying to get people to allow to swim in it.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get the swim thing first.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to do bear's knees?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you have
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: a bear's knees.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: I do have a bear's knees.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is one,
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: like there's these things that you like about Berlin that you don't really realize
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: until we do a bear's knees.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I really like that.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: I love Emmy scooter sharing.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized I'm just basically talking about vehicle sharing here generally.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Who doesn't want a scooter?
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about a traditional scooter that you sit on,
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: that you turn the handle, that's your accelerator.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a human being on the planet that does not want a scooter?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: I had a, when I was 14 years old, I had a 50cc Honda.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: Do you sometimes lay in bed at night going, that was so much fun?
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was fun.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: I love that thing.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: So this is what I'm saying.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: Who doesn't want a scooter?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Part of the reason my son is studying in Munich,
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm convinced,
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: because we went down there to look at the university, like check it out.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: And he and I just, I taught him how to ride a scooter that weekend.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: You don't need a license to do that?
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not when you're with your dad, you know.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think you need a license anyway.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: You do need a license.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: You do?
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Of course you do, yeah.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: But you can just get a scooter license.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: In America, I didn't need a license.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think you do, yeah.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: For 50cc, under 10, 100cc.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: As long as it's a 22 gauge or 50cc, you're fine.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: 22 gauge?
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's a gun.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's a gun.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: So who doesn't want a scooter?
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: It proves my point.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Who does not want a scooter?
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: And in Berlin, you can just rent one when you need it.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not that expensive.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's a couple bucks.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't see them anymore.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: They're round.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: They're here.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're green now.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: They used to be red.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: There's some of the red ones.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: They merged with another company, but they're still around.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you just get an electric bike?
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: Also, this is a big lie.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: The lie of electric bikes.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: They're not electric bikes.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: They're scooters.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but you pedal.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Not really.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: The pedal is the accelerator.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: Just as much fun.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's the exact same thing.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: I guess I could, yeah.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: But it's a scooter.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: Big fan.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right now, my son's got my car.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Should I stop talking about my son for a minute?
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to France for two weeks with the car,
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: so I've just been renting a scooter every now and then.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: I have a friend who hates the e-scooters,
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: the ones where you
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: stand up on, the shared ones, so much.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: Whenever he sees them, he just tips them over like a
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: bunch of dominoes.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that'll show the man.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: That'll show the man.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: Just make it even harder for pedestrians to get past them.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good idea.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: Or, hey, why don't you throw them in the spray?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Just pollute the environment.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't do that.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're being passive-aggressive.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm ambivalent on the things.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: What I don't like is that the government doesn't charge those companies to use
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: the sidewalks on the streets.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think they should charge them a euro a year per scooter.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, a friend of mine said, you guys are charging money for the bear's needs, right?
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, no.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: No, we're not.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: Emmy?
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: Emmy?
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: Emmy, if you're out there, if you want to be mentioned again.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: Annual subscription.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right to sponsor.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to film a reel this afternoon.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: I have to rent one.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: Are you getting sponsored by Emmy?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: I have a bear's knees.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little bit posh.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: A little bit exclusive.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: You have to know that Maurice is actually,
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: if you took his, if you peeled his skin back, FTP right underneath it.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm wearing my boat shoes today in protest of the coming communist state.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to give my bear's knees to a classic French brasserie.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, I'm all for this.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Entrecote.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know it?
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, where is that?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: In Schutzenstraße, near Checkpoint Charlie.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ, do you go down there?
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, once every three years.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_02: But it's amazing.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's very old school.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's in a new building, but it's very old school.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like the perfect French restaurant.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_02: You can get like an Entrecote frit.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_02: You can get a Moule frit.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's all perfectly cooked.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: The waiters know what they're doing.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Escargot?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: Do they have escargot?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I went to France with the goal of eating snails.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm actually allergic to snails.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I love them.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: What happens?
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: My lips get tingly.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, my head gets kind of tingly.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: Why the hell would you eat them?
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: they taste good.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it just tastes like rubbery chicken with garlic.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: This is bullshit.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know what they should do is take the shells,
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: stuff it full of bread, then pour the super garlicky butter on it.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Or just some kind of like meat, like fake meat.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: I totally agree.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's garlic.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: You're eating garlic.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: So the best thing there is, you know, actually the French fries are probably the best thing.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: So like this insanely thin match stick fries,
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: best fries, this side of the Rhine.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: God damn.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going, I know where I'm going with my wife this week.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's a, you know, it costs a pretty penny.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: What'd it cost you?
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_02: I had 28 euros for the steak.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little bit disappointing that it's called Entrecote because it really needs
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: to be like Brasserie Schmetzenbach.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like Brasserie Marais.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm wearing Brasserie Lip sweater as we're
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: talking about this.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a posh Brasserie in Paris.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: You bought some merch from a Brasserie.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: My German family is actually called Lip.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: It is?
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why you bought that?
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: True story.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my uncle went to Paris.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: He made a big deal about how he went to Brasserie Lip
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: because his name was Lip Glenn Irvin Lipp.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then he died of leukemia, the same leukemia that killed my mother.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a big, a little bit of motion around it.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's fun.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: there's all these sort of like pseudo Germanic names of stuff in France,
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_02: like that beer from Strasbourg, Strasbourg, called Kronenburg.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you do know the history of Strasbourg.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: I also think one random thing I really like in Paris is the metro station called Stalingrad.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, wow, that really conjures up
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: some imagery for me every time I go there.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's the problem if you're German, Stalingrad doesn't mean it.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, for them, it's like, you know, a great victory.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess it is for my people also a victory in the long run.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: We were liberated by the Russians.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a weird, that's a strange philosophical thing that Germans do.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like defeated and liberated at the same time.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for killing thousands of us.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right, but it could have gotten a lot worse if you hadn't.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: Just this weird like, maybe just don't get into the argument.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's a whole other podcast, Andrew.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is
• 42:38
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• 42:39
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