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Saints Legend Explains Why Tyler Shough Won Him Over · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: and uh Lance Moore was there as well, former Saint
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  Speaker 1: Great goodness join us for a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Lance, We always appreciate it, man, How are you doing well?
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  Speaker 3: Enjoying this? You know, eighty degree weather. It's sunning at
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  Speaker 3: my pool right now. You know it's summertime everywhere, right,
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  Speaker 3: but it's always summer in San Diego.
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  Speaker 1: Why At, oh Man, I love you, but this is
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  Speaker 1: This week is literally one of the hottest weeks on record.
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  Speaker 1: The airtempts are going to get close to one hundred
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  Speaker 1: with the heat index is supposed to approach one ten
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  Speaker 1: every every day.
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  Speaker 2: This is.
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  Speaker 3: No thank you, Oh man, God.
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  Speaker 1: I can only think about those camps and Jackson that
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  Speaker 1: y'all were in with With Sean. Everyone talks about the
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  Speaker 1: two thousand, his first one in two thousand and six, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: do you have nightmares about that?
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, I was going into my second
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  Speaker 3: season and was mostly practice squad guy, and was even
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  Speaker 3: home early in the season, so I wasn't in a
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  Speaker 3: position to complain about the heat, the grind and all
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  Speaker 3: the stuff that was as crazy as all the veterans
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  Speaker 3: said they they ended up calling us the Junction boys,
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  Speaker 3: because the vets were like, this is ridiculous, Like somebody's
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  Speaker 3: going to die out here and it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: the coach's fault. And for me, as a young guy,
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, I'm happy for this opportunity. I'll
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  Speaker 3: do whatever it takes to make this pick.
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  Speaker 1: The CBA in twenty eleven took care of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that, but in the meantime, it looked beautiful in
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  Speaker 1: San Diego. Wells, if you in mind just walks through
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  Speaker 1: how did that all come together? The workouts out.
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  Speaker 3: There, well, I mean there was something that Drew used
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  Speaker 3: to do back in the day, right, Like, he's lived
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  Speaker 3: out in San Diego in the office, and since he
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  Speaker 3: was a charger clearly, and so a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: years he'd have a group of the guys come out
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  Speaker 3: and it wasn't just a throwing session, right. Like, There's
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  Speaker 3: one of Drew's business partners and buddies named Todd Dirkin
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  Speaker 3: owns a facility out here. So the guys get workouts,
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  Speaker 3: they get massages, they get the nutrition, they get all
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  Speaker 3: the recovery that they could ask for, and they go
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  Speaker 3: out and they get work in on the field. And
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  Speaker 3: I think Shuck, I don't know if he reached out
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  Speaker 3: to Drew or I Drew reached out to him, but somehow,
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  Speaker 3: some way, Shuck ended up working out with Todd Dirk
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  Speaker 3: in this offseason. And so I think that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: the idea that Shuck got what Drew used to do
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  Speaker 3: this and it worked out well for them. So maybe
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  Speaker 3: I should invite my guys out. And like you said earlier,
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  Speaker 3: there was some sessions here last week and I got
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  Speaker 3: a chance to get out there on the field with
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  Speaker 3: the guys, and uh, well, I guess it was two
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago now, but just the the level of concentration,
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  Speaker 3: the level of work and actually getting to see Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Shuck's league guys with no coaches around, kind of running
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  Speaker 3: the show. It was pretty special to be a part of.
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  Speaker 3: And I now understand what the Saints understood and thought
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  Speaker 3: when they drafted him in the second round last year.
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  Speaker 1: Can we dig a little deeper there, Lance, because that's
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  Speaker 1: I think the fascinating that most people are interested in,
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  Speaker 1: Like the simple question is why, how what did you
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  Speaker 1: see that led you to believe that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the first of I mean, the thing that stood
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  Speaker 3: out the most was because the leadership, Like I was
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  Speaker 3: expecting to show up on the first day and Drew
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  Speaker 3: and Todd Dirkin would be out there kind of running
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  Speaker 3: the show, and Tyler's just kind of quarterbacking. It was
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  Speaker 3: like the complete opposite. Drew wasn't even there the first
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  Speaker 3: day because he was at a World Cup team, but
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  Speaker 3: Tyler literally ran the whole show, and he was coaching
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  Speaker 3: every position up and talking about the things that he
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  Speaker 3: wants to see and where they need to improve and
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  Speaker 3: all the adjustments off of certain things. Like I was
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  Speaker 3: thoroughly impressed. And it's not just about talking in front
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  Speaker 3: of the guys or telling them what you want from them.
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  Speaker 3: But it's the response that I saw from the guys,
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  Speaker 3: the respect that he already has gotten from the guys,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's a big part of the reason
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  Speaker 3: why the team was so successful with Tyler Shuck at
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  Speaker 3: the Helm last year. Like they like this guy, they
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  Speaker 3: respect this guy, and they see the potential in him.
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  Speaker 3: And now it's about putting the work in so that
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  Speaker 3: they can develop the chemistry and the camaraderie and the
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  Speaker 3: timing and all the things that you do in the
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  Speaker 3: offseason leading into training camp. I see this as a
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  Speaker 3: unit that could be sneaky sneaky good this season.
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  Speaker 1: Lands if I asked you, and Lance Moore's our guest,
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  Speaker 1: the intangibles clearly are there. Physically anything that you saw
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  Speaker 1: from Tyler from Tyler Shuck that caught your eye, he.
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  Speaker 3: Can spind it. I mean, it's one thing to see
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  Speaker 3: it on TV. It's one thing to see it on
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  Speaker 3: highlights and social media, but to see it in person,
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty impressive. Now, Like you talk about arm strength
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  Speaker 3: a lot when it comes to quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, but to me, it's it's there's more to
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  Speaker 3: it than just how strong the guys are. Is like,
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  Speaker 3: it's the accurate, it's his timing good. And it seems
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  Speaker 3: to me like Tyler Shuck has all three of those things.
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  Speaker 3: Doing it over and over again with his past catchers
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  Speaker 3: is going to be what kind of propels them to
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  Speaker 3: the next level. But as far as the physical tools,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got the size, he's got the athleticism.
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  Speaker 3: You couple that with the intangibles like he could be
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  Speaker 3: scary scary good.
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  Speaker 1: They flip it and ask you about some of the
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  Speaker 1: past catchers who are out there. See, Chris Olave was there,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson, a lot of people around here, of course,
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  Speaker 1: Noberrian Brown from his yer at LSU. What or who
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  Speaker 1: maybe stood out to you among the pass catchers.
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  Speaker 3: You know what it's I mean, it's funny you ask
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  Speaker 3: uh and you mentioned Chris Olave first. We all know
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  Speaker 3: how great of a player Chris Olave is. But to me,
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  Speaker 3: to me, the thing that stood out most like he
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  Speaker 3: was the only true veteran receiver that was here. I
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  Speaker 3: could see based on his reaction to the to the
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  Speaker 3: things that I was saying to him or the coaching
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  Speaker 3: points that he's not satisfied. He wants to take coaching,
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  Speaker 3: He wants to keep getting better, and he understands, like
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  Speaker 3: most true pros do, that you're never ever a finished product,
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  Speaker 3: and you're always trying to get better and improve. And
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  Speaker 3: I saw that from him each time out and I
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  Speaker 3: and I really feel like he's you know, he had
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  Speaker 3: his career year last year, but I think he's going
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  Speaker 3: to take another step this season. And and and part
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  Speaker 3: of that to me is obviously you got to stay healthy,
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  Speaker 3: but but beyond that, I think a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: yards after the catch this season potentially, and really being
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  Speaker 3: a guy that can be counted on in big time
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  Speaker 3: moments consistently. It's one thing to say, Okay, you know
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  Speaker 3: this guy's got this many third down conversions or this
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  Speaker 3: guy's got this many touchdowns. But but having big time moments,
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  Speaker 3: having a guy that you can just say, hey, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to our guy, I think that's what we're going
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  Speaker 3: to see more of this year.
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  Speaker 1: From Chris Oliva, Lance Moore is with us for a
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  Speaker 1: couple more minutes. Former Saint Great. We're all looking to
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  Speaker 1: see if Lobby can build off last year. They obviously
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  Speaker 1: bringing a young guy and Jordan Tyson actually three rookie
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  Speaker 1: draft picks at receiver. That's the most in since I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the eighties, since they had that many draft
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  Speaker 1: picks at a receiver. Any of the rookies stand out
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  Speaker 1: like anything catch your eye?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean they're they're all. Jordan Tyson was
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  Speaker 3: not here, so I'll let that cat out of the bag.
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  Speaker 3: But but the other two guys, I mean, Bryce Land
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  Speaker 3: a guy that's got so many tools physically. He's big,
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  Speaker 3: he's long, he can run, He's got great ball skills
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  Speaker 3: as far as tracking the ball down the field. But
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  Speaker 3: but I think he's a little bit wrong. I think
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  Speaker 3: this this training camp is gonna be huge for him
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  Speaker 3: to be able to get this type of coaching, the
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  Speaker 3: level of coaching that it's gonna take for him to
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  Speaker 3: be a consistent guy on Sundays. I think I think
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  Speaker 3: the ability's there, but now he needs to get the
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  Speaker 3: coaching and kind of take the next step on the
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  Speaker 3: mental side of the game. He's gonna be fine. Barryon
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  Speaker 3: Brown is a guy that's so interesting to me. He's
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  Speaker 3: he's freakously athletic, can run, got great ball skills, got
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  Speaker 3: a great attitude and kind of personality but it's like,
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  Speaker 3: this dude is gonna be so good in a return game,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna have to find ways to get him the
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  Speaker 3: ball on offense too, because he's so electric, and I could,
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  Speaker 3: I could see him being a part of this offense.
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  Speaker 3: It's not. I don't think it's gonna be a SI
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  Speaker 3: situation where he's only returning plunts and kicks because he's
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  Speaker 3: too dynamic with the ball in his hands.
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  Speaker 1: Lance, you were just one more if I could. You
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  Speaker 1: were obviously a part of a seismic transition in the organization.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're rookie and O five the Katrina year
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  Speaker 1: as we mentioned, and then was the Peyton Breeze era
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  Speaker 1: all the way through the Super Bowl. Do you notice
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  Speaker 1: even from Afar any similar characteristics with with Kellen Moore
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  Speaker 1: taking over and trying to build now, obviously not the
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  Speaker 1: Katrina situation that's unique all in of itself. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: talking about building an organization. What it took to go
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  Speaker 1: from a team that wasn't winning to one that became
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  Speaker 1: a contender.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think it just starts with the culture
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  Speaker 3: shift a coach, especially a first time coach, to be
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  Speaker 3: able to come in and kind of instill his culture,
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  Speaker 3: get a bunch of his own guys, and his own
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  Speaker 3: philosophy pushed upon the guys, and the guys embracing it fully.
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  Speaker 3: That to me is the sign of a true head coach.
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  Speaker 3: Not to say that Dennis Allen wasn't trying to insert
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  Speaker 3: his culture, but as a part of you know, being
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  Speaker 3: part of Sean Payton's staff for so long, it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to create your own thing that's completely different, and it's
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  Speaker 3: hard to break away from something that you know so
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  Speaker 3: well and had so much much success in. It's pretty
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  Speaker 3: cool to see the guys embrace that. The guys seem
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  Speaker 3: to genuinely love and care about one another, and that
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  Speaker 3: to me is like one of those things that isn't
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  Speaker 3: spoken about a lot. But the teams that spend time together,
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  Speaker 3: the teams that genuinely love and care for one another
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  Speaker 3: and like being around each other, are usually the teams
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  Speaker 3: that win.
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  Speaker 1: He is Lance Moore, former New Orleans Saint Great, got
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  Speaker 1: an up close view of the Saints out in San
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  Speaker 1: Diego a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy that eighty seven humidity free.
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful sunshine the sandy white beaches.
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  Speaker 2: Go down to del Mar Ever hang out.
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  Speaker 3: There, absolutely right. Amens from my house, man, I tell
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  Speaker 3: you what I.
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  Speaker 1: Tell you next next year we're doing the entire month
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  Speaker 1: of shows in July at the Lancemore's house, going to
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  Speaker 1: del Mar every day. He doesn't do it, Lancey. We
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you always, man, thank you so much for making
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  Speaker 1: a few.
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  Speaker 2: Minutes for us.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, take care.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the great lance More