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Breaking Down the Big Week 7 Games · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and
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  Speaker 1: Rhett with you. Bucky is traveling back from London. Long
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  Speaker 1: long couple weeks there for Buck, going back and forth
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  Speaker 1: with the Jags being over there in London. But rhtt,
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  Speaker 1: it's great to see your face. And I can't help
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  Speaker 1: but notice, as an Indiana Hoosier you're still smiling.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard not to be. Buddy Hoo's yours are a
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  Speaker 2: wagon rocket and rolling coach. Signetti's rot got him going,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just absolutely dominated Nebraska in Bloomington this week.
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  Speaker 2: Game Day's coming to Bloomington this week. My Big ten
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  Speaker 2: network crew is going to be on the call for
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  Speaker 2: the game. A lot of fun, a lot of fun
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  Speaker 2: with this one and enjoying it, enjoying it probably a
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  Speaker 2: lot more than Bucky has been enjoying his back and
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  Speaker 2: forth to and from London. But like his trips, the
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  Speaker 2: NFL's London trips are over as well, and now we'll
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  Speaker 2: push forward to Munich here in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And then we had some good ones back stateside here
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  Speaker 2: this week as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're gonna We're gona jump into those games.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that Jags game. Drake May showing some
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  Speaker 1: good things there in Jacksonville, getting much needed to win.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start with these big three games here, starting
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  Speaker 1: with Detroit in Minnesota. Man, what a what a great game.
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  Speaker 1: I got to see a lot of this. This is
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of having a Monday night Charger game. I'm
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  Speaker 1: here in Arizona, but got a chance to watch just
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  Speaker 1: watch Sunday games, which was fantastic, and that was arguably
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  Speaker 1: the game of the day. And I'll give you the
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  Speaker 1: floor on this one first rat before I get to
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  Speaker 1: what I want to talk about, because I know you
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  Speaker 1: were struck by just how dang similar these two teams were.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's uncanny when you look at it,
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  Speaker 2: like in so many different categories, right, I mean, like
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  Speaker 2: total amount of plays run, we're within four of each other.
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  Speaker 2: First downs, we're within two of each other.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like the.
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  Speaker 2: Average yards per play they were gaining. They were making
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  Speaker 2: similar gains like on every play on average for the
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  Speaker 2: most part. I mean, they threw and ran the ball
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  Speaker 2: with similar balance as well. The explosive plays were even
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  Speaker 2: very similar. So I felt like in a game like this, DJ,
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  Speaker 2: you really had to like kind of go into the
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  Speaker 2: margins a little bit, right and try to find, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some of those hidden yards, some of those hidden things
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  Speaker 2: that can you know, allow somebody to gain extra yards.
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  Speaker 2: And Jamier Gibbs, who you're seeing on your screen right here,
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  Speaker 2: was a big piece of those hidden yards. Because I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like his speed, his explosiveness, he's always capable,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to break one, but he makes guys miss
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  Speaker 2: so often. In fact, made eight guys miss in this game.
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  Speaker 2: You want to talk about turning a six yard game
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  Speaker 2: into sixteen. The play he made on the forty five
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  Speaker 2: yard touchdown run on the safety, my goodness, at full
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  Speaker 2: speed right DJ, and did not lose speed at all
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  Speaker 2: coming in and out of that break and that juke
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  Speaker 2: that he made. He led all runners with the football
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  Speaker 2: enforced miss tackles this week according to PFF, with eight.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, he's such a big piece of that offense.
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  Speaker 2: And when you have that kind of fire and ice
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  Speaker 2: right with you know, David Montgomery providing that physical element
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  Speaker 2: and then Gibbs just able to juke you out of
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  Speaker 2: your socks and go the distance at any point. They
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  Speaker 2: have so many answers to beat you on offense. It's
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  Speaker 2: fun to watch and.
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  Speaker 1: No question and you know, look it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see what they were going to do with
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  Speaker 1: Aiden Hudginson not being there. Looked like they tried to
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  Speaker 1: they try to send more bodies and use kind of
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  Speaker 1: a win by numbers approach. I thought Minnesota for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, did a good job of holding up protection wise,
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  Speaker 1: made some big plays. I know there's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: throws that Sam would like to have back more than
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  Speaker 1: anything else. On the Viking side of things, they've got
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of these pre snap penalties. Man just
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  Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the foot with just misalignments more than
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  Speaker 1: anything else. That's that's easily correctable. They are going to
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  Speaker 1: have times where as aggressive as they are defensively, when
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  Speaker 1: other teams have a quarterback receiver combination that are in
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  Speaker 1: sync and in rhythm. I saw it against this defense
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  Speaker 1: last year with Herbert and Keenan Allen whe Keenan caught
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  Speaker 1: a bazillion balls and it was aman Ross Saint Brown
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  Speaker 1: with Jared goffin this one. When they can pick you
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  Speaker 1: up when you send that those zero looks you've got
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  Speaker 1: one guy that can win. It's got to be something
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  Speaker 1: that you're on the same page as the quarterback. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what they had there with Detroit. And I know
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be the main talking point coming out
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  Speaker 1: of this game. Jared Goff is you know he should
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  Speaker 1: be at the fore front of the MVP discussion. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that there's a quarterback who looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: more calm and poised and just I would say just
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  Speaker 1: locked in. I mean, he is in a comfort zone
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  Speaker 1: in this offense, even more so than when he was
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  Speaker 1: at his zenith with McVeigh and the Rams zenith.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. Great pull on that one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, look, the guy goes, you know, perfect
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  Speaker 2: in the first half, right, twelve to twelve, ends up
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  Speaker 2: with that what was it eighty eight completion percentage? By
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  Speaker 2: the way, on the flip side, Sam Darnold eighty one percentage?
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  Speaker 3: Really good in this game. They were both I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean outside of the turnover for Sam, I mean really
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  Speaker 2: really good stuff. There two more things on that front.
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  Speaker 2: On defense, you mentioned how are they going to replace
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  Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson. We talked about that a little bit you
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  Speaker 2: and I last week, Right and some of the guys
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  Speaker 2: that you know, kind of filled in in that last
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  Speaker 2: game that Hutchinson got hurt, and I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: those guys that.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of showed up in a big way. Josh Pascal
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  Speaker 3: had a sack in this game.
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  Speaker 2: And then the guy who literally ended the game was
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  Speaker 2: one of the guys who received more reps out on
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  Speaker 2: the edge when hutch got hurt. It was Trevor Lawawski, right,
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  Speaker 2: the guy who kind of listed as a linebacker. They
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  Speaker 2: push him out to the edge and he has that
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  Speaker 2: last sack on Sam Darnold. So you know, maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: not sustainable to kind of go by committee and try
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  Speaker 2: to get that kind of production, you know, all year long.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Dan Campbell's got that group rolling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Both these teams though five and one, looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to seeing they're going to see each other in the postseason. Man,
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  Speaker 1: this is these are two of the better teams in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC. I think that was that was playing to
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  Speaker 1: see there. Let's get to the next game here, another
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  Speaker 1: one with two teams that are going to be playoff teams,
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  Speaker 1: and that's Houston Green Bay. All start us off here
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  Speaker 1: on the green Bay side of things. Defensively, what they
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  Speaker 1: did to c J. Stroud. I mean, there was just
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  Speaker 1: it was suffocating what they did. And it was not
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  Speaker 1: only with the back end, but I watched all their pressures,
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  Speaker 1: watch what they were doing up front. Got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of athletes up there. Rareshan Gary can win right now.
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  Speaker 1: I was excited to see how they're using Edgeran Cooper,
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  Speaker 1: who can play some on the edge, can play off
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  Speaker 1: the ball. He's another one who's got legit like low
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  Speaker 1: four to five speed. They can win with penetration inside.
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  Speaker 1: They time up blitz as well. They were excellent in
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  Speaker 1: this game up front against a Houston offense that they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get rolling. Man, they just had nothing going in
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  Speaker 1: the past game. And is you know, I know you
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  Speaker 1: peaked at the coverage a little bit there, Rett, but
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  Speaker 1: I was impressed what I saw with their defensive front,
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  Speaker 1: just how athletic they were.
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  Speaker 2: I think it goes hand in hand, right, We talk
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  Speaker 2: about that all the time, that connection, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that coverage certainly benefited from having CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Stroud under duress.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch felt like they kind of took advantage of
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  Speaker 2: Juice Scrugs at center and Kenyon Green at left guard.
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  Speaker 2: You know, quite a bit there to kind of crumble
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  Speaker 2: that pocket on CJ. A number of times here where
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  Speaker 2: like you know, I'm sure he had he had seen
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  Speaker 2: something he liked. And there are a couple of plays
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  Speaker 2: and I really looked at Tank Dell. It didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a catching this game to see what was going on
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  Speaker 2: there were Tank kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of got open.
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  Speaker 2: But even before CJ could could start to think about
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  Speaker 2: pulling the trigger, that way, he was getting flushed out
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  Speaker 2: of the pocket or he was getting pressure, and so
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  Speaker 2: that just made things so much more difficult. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how many times this is probably the only time in CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud's career that he did not have a single receiver
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  Speaker 2: over thirty yards receiving in a game. That's what happens
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  Speaker 2: when you throw for less than one hundred, I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so as far as Tank Dell went, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't allow you know, his first target should have
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  Speaker 2: been a touchdown catch. Actually dropped one on a scramble drill.
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  Speaker 2: It was a hard one, but one that we've seen
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  Speaker 2: him make. And I thought that Jeff Haffley, you know,
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  Speaker 2: has done a really good job there as the defensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator in Green Bay. You talk about the pressure that
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  Speaker 2: he kind of game planet schemes and generated I thought
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  Speaker 2: on the back end, they mixed things up a ton.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they were kind of half and half with
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  Speaker 2: single high and two deep safety looks, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times on those on those two deep safety looks
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  Speaker 2: that one safety would would just kind of immediately you know,
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  Speaker 2: drop you know, another ten yards just to kind of
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  Speaker 2: keep a lid on, you know, Tank and Stefan Diggs
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  Speaker 2: from kind of getting behind everybody and you know, limiting
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  Speaker 2: those explosive plays up. He did a really good job
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  Speaker 2: on that front. So that was that was a defensive
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  Speaker 2: clinic right there on one of the best offensive teams
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  Speaker 2: in football.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, uh, you know, look offensively Green Bay. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Love has been he's he's kind of been running
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  Speaker 1: up numbers on both sides of the scoreboard. Man, he's
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  Speaker 1: been making big plays. He's collecting touchdowns. You see it
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  Speaker 1: on the screen there two plus pass tds eleven consecutive games,
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  Speaker 1: which is the longest active streak including the playoffs. So
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  Speaker 1: he's been running up you know, big plays points. But man,
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  Speaker 1: he's got to do a better job protecting the football
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  Speaker 1: as you start getting to these big games and get
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  Speaker 1: into the postseason. He's got to be a little more
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  Speaker 1: cautious there. Really the only the only negative on the
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  Speaker 1: on the Green Bay side of things. Anything you want
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  Speaker 1: to add there before we jump over to the next game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm glad you brought that up.
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  Speaker 2: Is just the interception numbers way too high for a
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  Speaker 2: guy that has missed two games already this year.
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  Speaker 3: So if they limit that, I mean, my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he's already you know, he's already breaking Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Rodgers records for touchdowns consecutively in games going back to
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  Speaker 2: last year. So I'm pretty dang impressive so far. If
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  Speaker 2: they can keep limiting those turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Casey San Francisco, maybe the
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  Speaker 1: most anticipated games because of the Super Bowl connection there.
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  Speaker 1: This is my takeaway and then I'll get your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. But when we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: defensive dominant teams that have an offense that gives you
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  Speaker 1: just enough, I think back over like the last decade.
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  Speaker 1: I think of the Baltimore Ravens. That'd be how they've
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  Speaker 1: been described. I think of the Pittsburgh Steelers that's been
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  Speaker 1: used to describe them. I think the Tennessee Titans when
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  Speaker 1: they're you know, their playoff runs that they've had, dominant defense,
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  Speaker 1: you know, can run the ball a little bit, just
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  Speaker 1: timely plays offensively. Is it time that we just start
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  Speaker 1: calling the Chiefs what they are? This is a defensive
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  Speaker 1: football team that's carrying them. I mean, that's dominating on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball with an offense that's
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  Speaker 1: just kind of gives you enough and a quarterback who
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  Speaker 1: is still at those key clutch moments can make you know,
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  Speaker 1: those two three plays you got to make, which Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: does it? Just is this, this is the formula of
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  Speaker 1: those defensive dominant teams like this is who the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: are at this point in time.
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  Speaker 2: And hold on before before I dig into to what
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at here, I mean, what does you
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  Speaker 2: think of those two runs from Mahomes, like the touchdown run, Right,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it, I've.
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  Speaker 1: Seen I've seen this. I've seen this in games against
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers in the past. It's it's here's the thing,
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  Speaker 1: because my first thought is, well, somebody's gonna drill him
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline because he's done this several times now
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  Speaker 1: where he kind of you know, he's kind of faking
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  Speaker 1: like he's going to go out of balance, and defenders
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  Speaker 1: know they're not. They're not even worried about the penalty, right,
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  Speaker 1: They're worried about the dang fine it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: coming out, you know for that, And so you get
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  Speaker 1: mad and say, okay, well, eventually he's going to get
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  Speaker 1: his block knocked off. And then I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a defensive player, if I'm
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: gonna get fifteen yards and I'm going to get an
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  Speaker 1: envelope in my locker, I don't know. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's kind of poor form. But that's
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  Speaker 1: where the rules are, and he's definitely taken advantage of
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  Speaker 1: it with those type rope moves.
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  Speaker 3: You want a little you want a little saucy nug
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  Speaker 3: on Mahome.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, give me. What do we've got here?
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  Speaker 3: And I've got this one here for you.
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  Speaker 2: And this comes courtesy of our buddy Tony in research
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  Speaker 2: last night when I was on game day final, Flip
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  Speaker 2: this one to me. Patrick Mahomes had the lowest passer
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  Speaker 2: rating of his career in Week seven, forty four point four,
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  Speaker 2: and the Chiefs beat the defending NFC champions by double
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  Speaker 2: digits on the road. Yeah, if that doesn't say something
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  Speaker 2: about the defense you're talking about, I don't know what does.
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  Speaker 3: Right there.
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  Speaker 2: Just incredible and like it does kind of bring back
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  Speaker 2: some visions of eight Manning in twenty fifteen, right, I
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  Speaker 2: mean not that not that Mahomes is super limited, like
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  Speaker 2: like man he.
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  Speaker 1: Was still off, wasn't at that time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're talking about defense carrying you at this point,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to some of these incredible wins.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's, uh, it does kind of feel a little
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  Speaker 3: bit like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I did also look at Perty's interceptions. I know
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  Speaker 2: you did as well. We could probably collaborate on this
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  Speaker 2: here a little bit. I thought that first one he
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  Speaker 2: was getting a little bit of pressure, but he didn't
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  Speaker 2: see that saying that deep safety man, that deep safety
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  Speaker 2: saw him from the jump.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was that great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was justin Reid had that thing rolling like
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  Speaker 2: he was watching Perty's eyes from from the get go.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously you want that one back. Number two. This one
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  Speaker 3: was kind of interesting. You watch this one.
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  Speaker 2: This so Ronnie Bell right here. I couldn't figure out
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  Speaker 2: whether he thought Ronnie was going deeper or not because
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  Speaker 2: that was way overthrown, right, I mean I was like
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  Speaker 2: five yards overthrown.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, when you kind of look.
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  Speaker 2: At it, Bell is kind is running kind of like
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  Speaker 2: an angle out route right, and he gets contact, but
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  Speaker 2: then pushes up even further through the contact, knowing he's
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  Speaker 2: got to get a little bit deeper go past the
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  Speaker 2: sticks to get the first down, and it's still overthrown
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  Speaker 2: by five yards.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that was just bad throw or what.
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  Speaker 2: And then obviously the third one you just got to
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  Speaker 2: you got to eat it and take the points down
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  Speaker 2: by the goal line.
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  Speaker 3: You can't give it up. Done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got hit the other number. I looked up
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  Speaker 1: with this stat or this stat from this game in
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  Speaker 1: this season. I was curious because it just looks like
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco's in the gun with a lot more pure
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  Speaker 1: drop back than just play action. If you just look
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  Speaker 1: at the play action numbers, it is about three percent
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  Speaker 1: down from what it was last year. So I think
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  Speaker 1: last year maybe they were twenty three percent, I believe
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  Speaker 1: somewhere around there in play action. This year it's about
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  Speaker 1: twenty percent of play action. So it's different. It's definitely less.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't as demonstrative as maybe I thought it would
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  Speaker 1: have been. But it just looks different when you watch them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, versus the nightmare of them being under center
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  Speaker 1: and having to deal with everything off that that with
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  Speaker 1: that offense with Boots and Crossers and really what Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan's done for forever, it's a different it's a different
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  Speaker 1: formula he's using.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, it's a different situation now, clearly, And
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like when there's no debo, which there
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  Speaker 2: really wasn't in this game as he had the illness,
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  Speaker 2: and then braindon I goes down with what they fear
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  Speaker 2: as an ACL so likely ending his season if that
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  Speaker 2: you know that that ends up being confirmed, and then
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  Speaker 2: with McCaffrey out, it's just like it's hard to kind
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  Speaker 2: of find that magic when you have three elite players
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  Speaker 2: out of the ballgame at the skill positions, Like can
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  Speaker 2: you say, is it truly just plug and play at
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  Speaker 2: that point or are you trying to facilitate different ways
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  Speaker 2: to attack like you're talking about their DJ just can't
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  Speaker 2: do it the way you've been accustomed to when you
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  Speaker 2: have those type of players out, especially with McCaffrey out
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  Speaker 2: for as long as he's been out.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: They're like the anti Lions.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I said this on Game Day Final last night, where
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: the Lions could beat you anyway they want at this point,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: like the forty nine ers are just running out of answers.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's true. It doesn't. It's just literally
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: it's just a shell of what they've been in terms
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: of all the guys they have out there. So I
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: guess it's probably on us to lower expectations. But you
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: do look at the schedule. Man, They've got some work
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: to do. They are three and four, and they're gonna
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: have to fight, you know, not to win the division
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: or to be a number one seed. They're gonna have
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: to fight to get into the tournament with the way
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: this thing's shaken up right now. So I managed to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: see what happens there in San Francisco. Let's sneak another
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: game in here before we take a little break. Philly
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: and the Giants. This was a let me give you
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: a little bonus saucy nug here because this one caught
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: my saucy nug. Yeah, we're gonna go double a little.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: We'll double up here on the saucy nug. Saquon Barkley
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: seven hundred and sixty one scrimmage yards this season, the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: most by a player in his first six games with
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: a team since drum roll. Saquon Barkley's first six games
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: with the Giants is a rookie in twenty eighteen, we
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: had eight hundred and eleven scrimmage yards. Long story short,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley's very good. He has been an excellent signing
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: there for the Philadelphia Eagles, and man, it's it's it's
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: hard to look at it from the giant side of
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: things and say how this benefited them deciding to turn
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the page. And really, when you look at the money,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy money that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: He got from the Philadelphia Eagles, No, I mean it
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: ended up being you know what was it like essentially
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: a million or two average annual value to what they
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: were talking about. I know that's not the whole way
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: to cut the you know, the pie up on that,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, it's it's tough, and in a
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: game like this, it was even harder. I mean watching
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: him go for one hundred and seventy six yards on
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: an eighty seven total yards. So another bonus, Saucy nug
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Care for you. I mean, Saquan now in the last
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: ten years has the most rushing yards against the Giants
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: and the most rushing yards for the Giants over a time.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I can't imagine the feeling you
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: know that John Mahra had just sitting there watching Barkley
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: run up and down. Know, Look, they got more problems
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: than that the Giants do right on offense there.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of what's going on
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: over there, you know.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, like Andrew Thomas going down for the season
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: is about you know, the strate that's.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: A tough one. That's a tough one. With the zudat
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: left tackle right now, it's.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Tough, h and and I mean that's that's kind of
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: been an unfortunate piece of Andrew Thomas's career arc right.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, he he was he struggled early in his
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: career and then you know, kind of quickly established himself
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: as one of the better tackles in football. And now
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: he's got these injuries that you're dealing with, and Daniel
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Jones gets pulled from the game, Drew Locke comes in.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Where do you go from here? What do you do now?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Malik neighbors minimal impact in the game, Beach, I don't, man,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: it's getting late early there in New York.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The only other thing that I will add is
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that if you've looked at the Philadelphia Eagles over the
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: last several years, they're at their best when they are
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: led by their pass rush and a little bit of
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a slow start at the sacks in this game five
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: sacks last week. They found their footing a little it
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: here along that front and seeing a lot of different
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: guys win. You Jalen Carter inside that's getting two sacks,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Na Kobe Dean, I'm gonna dust off that scouting report
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: here later in the Yeah, we can dig into him.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: He had two sacks. So we're seeing those those Georgia
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Bulldogs there with the Eagles starting to play good football.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: And also Nolan Smith get won for the second week
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: in a row off the edge, who's been very disruptive.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: He's he's coming into his own a little bit there too.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: So that's when the Eagles are who they are. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I think in the back end too, you've got those
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: two rookies Cooper Dejean's playing well, Quinya and Mitchell's playing well.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: So they're starting to see after kind of a frustrating
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: start to the year. You look up there four and two,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting race there in that division.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Washington playing the way they're playing, Uh, you know, the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Cowboys being the mystery team that they are, it's gonna
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: be too interesting ride there. Anything else you want to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: add before we take a quick little pause.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: No, I think that that about does it on that one.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: But I do say I do feel like, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: when the Eagles are struggling earlier in the year, I
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: mean you point to aj Brown being gone for about
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a month's worth of time, and now he's had back
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to back games with a forty plus yard touchdown reception.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: That element, with Saquon Barkley's presence in the ground game
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: like that feels like the Eagles are back right again,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: or at least trending in the right direction.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And the Pittsburgh Steelers had an enjoyable cruise. I would
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: say it was a party cruise last night. After they
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: took care of the New York Jets. All the talk,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: all of the conversation is Davante Adams and he's going
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to fix everything that's wrong with the New York Jets.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: They score fifteen points. That does not happen. We'll get
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to the Jet side of things here in a minute,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: but let's start first of all, Russell Wilson. That was
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: not a popular decision, maybe nationally, maybe even locally as well.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'll get into my thoughts on it and a second here, Rett,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: but just your thoughts on the on the decision that
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was made to go to Russell Wilson and what we
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: saw on his first crack ad with the Steelers.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I was watching that one with Maurice Jones Drew as
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: we were getting ready for Game Day Final on NFL Network,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and you know, it wasn't like the prettiest the games
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: in the first half for the Steelers offense, Like there
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: were some throws who you're like, is.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: That that much better than justin fields?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But then, boy, I felt like in the second half
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: they really found a rhythm there, and I think it
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: started when Russ started giving George Pickens a shot to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: go make plays down the field up in the air.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I mean this one was.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Pretty fortuitous here, it's off the defenders arm and he
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: ends up going to grab it, makes plays for him.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: But I mean, like getting pickings engaged like that is
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons you turned to Russell Wilson. They
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: were talking about that in the broadcast too. We looked
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: at that throw and catch by Pat Fryer Muth down there.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, guys were making big plays again for the Steelers,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: some in the past game that we just like you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen. And then you know what they did. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: felt like it was critical into the third quarter, into
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, or you get the touchdown to Van
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Jefferson and then you get Russell sneaking it in as well,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: So one through.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: The air, one on the ground.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: They built a two score lead in the second half
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: as they went into the fourth quarter, and then.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: We're able to just play Pittsburgh football, which was.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Handed off to Najie Harris, who looked invigorated in this.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Game by the block and kicks.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: How awesome was that scene with their special teams coordinator
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: down there as well, And then Jalen Warren two had
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of big runs like that's how that's how
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh wants to win, right and it just it felt
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like Russell gave them an opportunity.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: And how about this they doubled basically doubled up the
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Jets in yards per play in this game.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Like the Steelers offense doubled up the Jets with Devontae
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Adams that everybody in Aaron Rodgers in yards per play,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: they were more explosive.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: That's a saucy nug. You didn't tease it as such,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: but that's sorry, saucy nugg. That's a saucy nugg. I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: got a lot of thoughts on this one. So let's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: start first of all here Mike Tomlin and the decision.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I said this in the week if you missed it,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: But my theory on that was, if we're gonna laud
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: all these coaches who use this phrase, it's about the process,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it's not about results. And you hear Nick Saban say,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: We've heard Belichick say it. You've heard every coach utter
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that phrase. Normally it's said when you lose a football game,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you say, you know what, we're not gonna We're not
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: going to focus on the result that we lost. The
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: process was right, how we went about it, how we prepared.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: The result wasn't there, but the process, process, process, well,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that should also be the case if you're winning games
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and you look and find flaws in the process, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's what Mike Tomlin did. He looked at
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it and said, we're missing opportunities in the past game.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yes we're winning football games, but I am focused on
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the play in the process, not the result in terms
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of a win or a loss. And that's why you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: had the conviction to say, we need more, and maybe
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: maybe Russ can't give us more, but we're going to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: find out. We're going to put him out there and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: find out if he can take this to another level
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and give guys opportunities to make plays. So I applaud
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin on that did so before the game, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I'll do so after the game. I thought that was
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the right move. A couple other thoughts. You talked about
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: how they're playing physical, running the ball, getting the tight
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: ends involved with friarmourth and with Washington, and then big
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: shot opportunities down the field and Rhett this is the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: one that I was thinking of watching this game. I'm
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: watching on the other side, Mike Williams, who's been publicly
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: embarrassed by Aaron Rodgers after a game. You go out
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and get Davante Adams, so he falls further down the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: pecking order, he didn't practice early in the week. I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: don't know what was going on there, but it sounds
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: like obviously he'd have a legitimate reason to not want
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: to be a New York Jet and if the Jets
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: are interested in trading him, I'm sitting here watching this
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: ball game going. I was around Mike Williams with the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Chargers his whole career. What Mike Williams does well is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson was giving George Pickens opportunities to do
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in that game. If you're going to trade Mike Williams,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm Omar Khan, I'm calling as a Pittsburgh Steeler
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and saying, hey, come on back over here. So he
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: went a nice catch on a fourth down, But we
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: will utilize you in what you do. We'll put you
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: opposite of George Pickens. And now we have you talk
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: about a basketball team with those tight ends. If you
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: put Mike Williams out there with George Pickens and with
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a quarterback who wants to give guys chances down the field,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: tell me I'm not crazy here for thinking that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You're You're not crazy, and you know what I you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: and I shame he got injured early in the season.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: But Roman Wilson. I felt like, if you get those big,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: those big dudes out there and you let Roman work
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: in the slot, do you know the rookie man that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: would be, that'd be a lot of fun.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: You know as well.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I love that idea. I love that idea as long
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: as you're continuing to feed you know, George Pickens, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: feel like the targets have to stay that way for
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: him to be engaged. And and you know what he
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: was against the Jets.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: You know who played well in this game too for
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the for the Steelers, Peyton Wilson, the linebacker let him
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and tackles as a rookie who was a steal with
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the ninety seventh pick. He was in my top fifty.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It was really just his Yeah, Beanie Bishop, by the way,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I think Andie Bishop has already passed Beanie Wells as
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the best beanie in NFL history. Just off that off
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that one game and then he was awesome. Mason McCormick
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: starting up front along the offensive line. Keep in mind,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: once they get to the buy and get out of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the buy, they're going to get Troy Fatanu, their first
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: round pick back. They'll eventually get Zach Frazer who was
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: playing awesome as their center. That is a heck of
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a draft class. And then you just throw Beanie in
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: there as a little he's a he's a bonus Beanie,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: uh for for being an undrafted free agent. What they
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and what they got out of him. Someone we saw
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: at the you know, at the Big twelve combine, who
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: was running in the four threes. You know there, Yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: he was awesome. That's a that's a heck of a class.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And on the previous year, we're seeing Washington make plays.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: You're seeing Broderick Jones out there moving people in there
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in their run game. That's two really good drafts. It
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: kind of changed, Uh, this kind of whole nucleus of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. They've got their stars. You know, you've
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: got You've got Watt, who's a star. Fitzpatrick's a star.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: But man, they've built a lot of the guts team
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in the last two dirafts and.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: The way that they've remade that offensive line, I think,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you know, we talk about teams that have done that
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: in the past. I feel like the Chiefs have had
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: to do it like three different times in the Mahomes era.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Bengals kind of started to do it as well with Burrow.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, with the Steelers have done here because it
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: got bad for a while, right, I mean we were
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: talking three years ago, like whoa what happened here? Right
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: with with Pittsburgh obviously been known for having, you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a solid group upfront, and they've done a terrific job
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Omar Khan has, especially here in these last two years.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Quickly on the other side of things, the Jets, I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: had my doubts of whether or not this would pay
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: dividends immediately. I thought they'd be a little bit more
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: on the same page than maybe they would have been.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: And look, I think that'll get better offensively for them.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But man, I just Aaron Rodgers said something after the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: game where he said he didn't like the energy, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I thought the body language is just brutal.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: It's just like if they don't get going, and that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: it's he's the face of the team. It's just a man,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It's not a It is a hangar, head downer body
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: language that you're getting from the New York Jets. And
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: then Garrett Wilson after the ball clanks off his chest,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: his body language was not good. It's just energy. The
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: overall energy from that side right now not great. And defensively,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I know they're missing pieces, but they're not playing as
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: well on that side of the ball either.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I thought the energy thing was was a huge, huge
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: kind of red flag. You know, as he talked about.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: It comes to the television, It just comes right to
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: the TV. I live.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: He's like, I live for these types of games, right
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: You're the only game in town, everybody's watching. You want
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to be at your best and for the energy to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: be flat a game like that, you know, Yeah, that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that does say a little bit of something there about
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: what the Jets are dealing with right now. Hopefully they
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: can't get this thing rolling. They got a chance to
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: go do it this week. Believe they're up in New
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: England the Battle of Patriots in an afcast matchup.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, what.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Happens there, Tennessee Buffalo RTT. What was your takeaway in
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that one?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Look, Tennessee's limited offensively. I think that's just the kind
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of the best way to put it. From the quarterback
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: spot with Will Levis out and or ineffective and you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: with some some bad decisions that kind of keep popping
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: up even when he's in there, and so you know
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: what I see then on the Bill side of things
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: was Ray Davis.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It's a stud in he only had filed me in.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you have five carries in this game.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: But man, he just looks like he's got so much juice,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: especially between the tackles, like like he comes right off
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: his offensive line, like there's there's no wasted movements, there's
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: no wasted yards in the way that he runs, like
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: so efficient with his cuts. He's got great, great physicality
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and balance when he's getting contacted.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Man, I feel like you got to give him more carries.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that James Cook has done anything wrong
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: here at this point, but I feel like Ray Davis
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: has earned himself a right to get more than what
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the Bills, you know, I've been given him, and I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: think they got to probably figure that out now that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: both of them this is kind of the first game
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: where they've really worked both of them in after Cook
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: was out last week.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: So I think that's a huge deal for the Bills
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: going forward.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And then you know, Marii Cooper, you know, is trying
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: to figure out what what Rowdy's run and still ends
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: up catching a touchdown pass. So I mean things are
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: coming up basis for Josh Allen here.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, let me touch on Ray Davis quickly. Ray Davis,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the the teeter totter analogy, Rhett.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: That's like as the weather goes down, the carrier should
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: go up. That's the that's the teeter totter we need
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: here with Ray Davis as we get later into the year.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Just I'm okay, if you want to, if you want
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to be a little bit, you know, sparing with how
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you're giving him touches. Let's get to the year. But
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, as we get into the colder months,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: especially up in Buffalo, he's built for that. He is
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a perfect fit. He's better than Zach Moss. And Zach
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Moss we saw a run up there in that system
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and have some success. So I'm a Ray Davis fan. There.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I went and watched Keon Coleman his targets and catches
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: because he had a big day, some big plays with
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: with the rookie out there really two things broken tackles,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: broken play that's that's where his yards came from. Has
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a slant spins out of a tackle and goes and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: then you just have him reacting with with Josh Allen
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: scrambling around and getting in his vision and getting a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: big play that way. So good to see there though,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: for Keon Coleman and a Buffalo team with Gregory Rousseau
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: off the edge. We both watched his pressures. We were
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: talking about that this morning off air, and that's someone
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: who just unique with his with his length and versatility
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: inside outside, can win on a pure rush. You can
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: use him on games. He can power you. Gosh, who
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is it Petite Freeer he put on? Yeah, so he's Yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the pressures I think said the PFF had him for
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like eleven pressures. A couple of those maybe a little
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: bit generous, but overall very disruptive. Just to he's just
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: turned into a really good football player.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: And and you know, he was one of our favorite
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: path of the draft interviews.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: You remember how inquisitive he was to us, YEA what
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he's Yeah, he just wanted to wanted to like just
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: soak everything up.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And I love that. I love getting to know him
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, when when Jalen Duncan went out
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: for Tennessee and Petite Freer went in there.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Uh Russou really started the feast.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: So it's great to know the Bills can kind of
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: have one of those dominant type of dudes off the
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: edge for that Sean McDermott defense.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So yeah, the Bills are. Bills are in good shape
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: at this point of five.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Let's rip through some more than you don't need to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: take as long hair. Seattle Atlanta not the most esthetically
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: pleasing game, I guess if you're a Seahawk fan. It
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: was fun to watch, but not a very competitive game there.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: No, And look, I think for Seattle what this kind
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: of you know, continues to prove for you is Kenneth
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Walker is kind of the engine to me that make
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: this offense go. You know, the way that he runs
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the football, and you can obviously see it certainly helps
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: when you've got just a whole, you know, three yard
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: size hole there.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: But and then watch what he does in the past
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: game here watch this catch.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: How many running backs go up and make that type
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: of adjustment to a ball in a contested catch with
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a defender close in coverage. I just think he's got
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: such a unique style of running the football. He's got
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: great balance there too, and he to me really opens
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: things up for Seattle, and we saw you know, you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: be a little bit more judicious with the football in
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: this game. Probably as a result of that. I think
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: there's just so many options when when Kenneth Walker's healthy
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and rolling for the Seahawks offense.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I think they have a chance to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: be a really balanced team because they can kind of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: do what the game dictates. If they need to run
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the ball, they can run it if they need to.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: If they find themselves in a shootout, Gino, with the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: weapons they have on the outside, he can play in
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that type of a game. So I know they're coming
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: off a little bit of a skid here with with
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the three game losing streak, but I do feel good
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: about the i and talent that they do have there
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: in Seattle, and I think defensively it's strength and numbers.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: They just have a lot of really really good young players.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You saw a scoop and score in this game. So
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: they're doing some good things there in Seattle with the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: way they're continuing to build out that roster. In Atlanta, look,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it was a clunker, but they're still sitting here at
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: four and three. No reason to panic that division is
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: still within their reach. So we'll see what happens going
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: forward with them. Let's get to Washington in their game
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: over Carolina, which let's be generous and call it a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: game Carolina non competitive. I said it after I saw
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: them live was Week two against the Chargers. I said,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: they will have the first pick in the draft. Now,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: some other teams are given them a run for their
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: money with how bad Tennessee has been and what they
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: look like there, and New England's not great either. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I still think talent wise, I think this is still
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it's the most talent starved roster, especially with Derek Brown
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: not out there to the point where Jayde Daniels can
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: get hurt early in this ballgame, Marcus Mao, Mariota goes
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in and it's a forty burger.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that did not like seeing that piece of it,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I think is all the more glaring. And I know
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Carolina said they're going to stick with Andy Dalton as
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: the starter for right now. I mean, I mean like
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: he's been. He's been the post Cincinnati Bengals Andy Dalton
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: since the Week one start where he you know, helped
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: or not the Week one start, since his first start
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: where he, you know, helped the Panthers engineer their their
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: first and only win of the season. So things are
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: kind of coming back down to the mean. It feels
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: like on that side of things, I wonder if if
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young is is, you know, somewhere on the horizon
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: here once again, or does it even matter at this
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: point when you're talking about the roster and the dearth
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: of talent there. But for the Commanders, I think that
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: often is one of the biggest maybe you know, positive developments,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: if not surprises that we've seen thus far. Maybe even
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: this season, they played really well together. Ryan Robinson went
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: over one hundred in this game. Physical presence on the ground,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: which obviously helps Mariota's cause. Look at this throw he
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: made on the run right here to zach Ertz. I mean,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that was some kind of vintage Mariota stuff right there,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and what it you know, it's kind of paid off,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you know, for Adam Peters and for Washington to have
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: a veteran like Mariota available to come in that can
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: kind of do some of the things that you like
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: from Jayden Daniels with the mobility.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: So hopefully it's.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Not an extended absence for Daniels and O dan Quinn
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: said today DJ was week to week on that rib injury.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully it's not too much longer. One. I definitely
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: see him in Caleb a square up here. That's going
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to be a fun ball game. This is This is
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the last doot on this game and we'll move on
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: so you don't need to talk much more about it
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: was an ugly ball game last year. These two teams
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: finished two games apart in the standings. I mean, they
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: might as well be oceans apart with where those two
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: franchises are right now. When you think about where Washing
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: it's not just the record five and two verses one
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and six, but just man one has got so much
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: momentum and so much going for him there with a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: new coaching staff and nailing the quarterback there jayde and Daniels.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So interesting to see how quickly it can take you
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: off of a different off of one path and puts
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: you on another one. Those two teams were riding next
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to each other, and they are not next to each
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: other any longer.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: No, no, not at all, And it kind of makes
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: me wonder, like what are they gonna do with Jonathan Brooks?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Like I know they opened the practice window on him,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and I know you'd love to see what he's got here,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: but dang sure, no sacrificial Williams all.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Right, speaking of a bad football team, but one with
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: some hope. New England. They are over there in London
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: playing against Bucke's Jags. They lose thirty two to sixteen.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It looks ugly, but I'm telling you there's a lot
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: of good to take out of that game on their
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: side of things. Before we get to the Jags. Drake
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: May's making plays, big time throws down the field. He's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: using his legs. They he's going to be really, really good. Man.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: What I've seen from him, I think he's it was determined, like, hell, okay,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: he's ready. We can put him out there even though
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: we're not very good, and he'll be able to survive.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: He's doing more than surviving. He's playing well and I'm
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: excited about his future there. I don't know who else
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: is going to be there. From a coaching staff standpoint,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: what that looks like off into the future, probably not great.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: When Bill Belichick is blasting drawed Mayo's comments about the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: toughness of the team, and that's kind of a weird
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: situation there with your former coach there. But right side
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: of things starting there with the Patriots, Drake may Is
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: is going to be really good.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I think that's if you're a Patriots fan,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: that's what you guy have to hang on to here
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: at this point, right. I mean, it's like, let's find
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a good and use it to project how things can
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: get better in the future. And that's that's kind of
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: where you're at for you know, a one win football team.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: On the flip side, for the Jaguars, you know, you
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: want to talk about toughness. They're you know with those
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: comments from draw Mayo and Belichick, but toughness is what
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby brings to the Jaguars, and it feels like
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: that's something that they really needed to kind of get
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: out of this slump that they've been on since early
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: in the season. So, you know, for me, seeing Tank
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: go over over one hundred couple of touchdowns, that physical
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: presence that he brings, you know, it makes me kind
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: of curious what this thing is going to look like
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: when Travis Etn gets healthy again, because you know, Bigsby
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: needs carries and I feel like he gets He's one
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: of those dudes in one of those backstage that gets
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: stronger if the game goes on, and you know, I'm
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: excited to see you know how this offense kind of
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: maybe shifts and morphs, you know, with the player like
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Bigsby in the backfield.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Let me give you one Patriots saucy nug and I'll
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: get to the Jags. Uh. The New England Patriots have
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: lost six straight games, as you can see here on
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the screen, for the first time since nineteen ninety three.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: To put that into context, I had I had braces.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I was a freshman in high school and just just
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: playing a mean point guard out there, just trying not
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to get elbowed in the face because it really did
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it did it give you a bloody lift there when
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you got those braces on there. Got to put the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: little bit put the like wax. Gotta put the wax
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: over the braces so that doesn't stick to your lip.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: But that's what was going on in my life the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: last time the Patriots lost six straight games. So that's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: a reference call for you.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: There.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Not great, not great. On the Jag side of things.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: BTJ was great, Bigsby was great, So there's still some
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: good young pieces there, and it was nice to see
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Trevor just kind of exhale a little bit. It was
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: definitely the game that he needed. Hopefully they can build
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: off that going forward, because it would they lose that game.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: It's a different conversation and who knows, you know, who's
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: who's there and who's not there in the coming weeks.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get one more in here before we
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: take a pause here. The Raiders the Rams ugly? Ugly?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Is that a way to put it. Unfortunately Aidan O'Connell
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: goes down with thumb injury, he's going to be down.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: The Rams kind of ugly their way to a win.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: It was, I mean, like defense, right, let's credit credit
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the Rams defense. That's a young group right there, with
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: all the draft picks that they've spent on that side
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of the ball over the last few years and hit on.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: A majority of those.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And I think Kobe Durant is one that maybe we
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: forget about a little bit because he was outstanding in
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: this game. And you know, I know you watched a
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: lot of brought Bauers. What he for the Raiders in
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: this game, which was really good. Once he targeted fourteen times,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I'll let you get to that. But on one of
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: those third and fives, it was Kobe Durant in coverage
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: down in the red zone of the Raiders first possession,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and it's Durant that had great coverage on him, makes
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a great play on the football, knocks it away, orses
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the Raiders to kick a field goal. So I'm going
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to say that Kobe helps save four points there for
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the Rams because that's usually a completion when it goes
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: to Bowers, so they keep the touchdown off the board,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: make him kick a field goal. He then has an
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: inter exception while also in coverage on Bowers, which led
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: to seven points for the Rams offense. So I'm going
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to chalk up now eleven points in Kobe Durant's corner
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: in this game. Then he had a strip sack on
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: the raiders next offensive possession that was scooped and scored
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: like Cam Curl. So I'm going to say that Kobe
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Durant actually helped, in a way, in some bad math,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: outscore the Raiders in this game, helping account for about
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: eighteen points.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I'll give you positives on the Raiders defensively. They gave
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it two hundred five fifty nine yards, which is nothing.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Two of ten the Rams were on third down. They
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: were excellent in that regard. Their defense. Really nothing to
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: be ashamed of with how they played and competed. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you mentioned it. I went back and watched all the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: targets there for Brock Bauers. I said it when I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: was there in training camp. I know DeVonta Adams is here,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: he will be the best player on their offense. Obviously
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: DeVonta Adams has since moved on. It's it's obvious clear
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: now he is their best player on offense, and just
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you can't get him enough targets. Saucy nug by the way,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I can give you a Brock Bauers saucy nug. I
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: think we might be setting the record for saucy nugs today.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Let's see here.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Is something about me having him on our rookie fantasy
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: team or no.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, did you really? That's that's an unfortunate nug. Here's
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a Saucy nug forty seven receptions this season. Only Poka
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Nakua with fifty eight and Saquon Barkley with forty nine
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: have more through their first seven games in NFL history.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So good news there. Let's give the Raiders.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Out who's silver and black Waite.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: That's a good way to end that discussion there, Hey, Raiders,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: it doesn't look pretty, it doesn't look pretty offensively, but uh,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I've got a couple of good young players and uh
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and there is some positive, good defense, good bowers. All right, Right,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: we had some news come out of that Cleveland game.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson goes down achilles injury. Everything was meant, I'm
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: not going to get it. Everything was set after the game.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I know a bunch of his teammates came to his defense.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I know some people love that, some people didn't love that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: It's unfortunate. You don't want toe anybody get hurt out there.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You can clearly see the thing pop as someone who's
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: who's torn his achilles. That's that's what it looks like. So,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you know, just a tough situation there, but an even
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: tougher situation for where the Browns are. They're one and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: six right now. I'll start with this question before we
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: get to the Bengals for sale sign for players. I know,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you know, Miles Garrett's Name's been floated around there. I
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: don't know that they would ever trade him, but I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: don't bod. I don't have any issue with teams trying
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to pry him out of there.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Oh no.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I mean again, I think Zadarius Smith is one to
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: watch too, you know, as a guy that you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: maybe not not quite as valuable as Miles Garrett is
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: to that franchise, so maybe a bit more expendable there.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's a it's a tough watch right
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: now in Cleveland. And you know, I thought it felt
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: good to see Nick Chubb get back into the end
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: zone right first game in almost four hundred days after
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: that devastating knee injury Week two last year.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: You know this, he didn't have.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: A terrifically you know, prolific day on the ground, but
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: seeing him get back into the end zone and get
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: back healthy, you know, maybe that's something that'll really help.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: But I assume Jameis Winston moving forward, although he was
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the emergency quarterback in this game, which I thought was
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: interesting in DTR during Thompson Robinson was actually QB two.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: He actually came in first and got injured.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: So I mean, they're gonna have to sign a quarterback
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: here at some point. There's just there's so much that's
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: going wrong right now in Cleveland and or Cincinnati, a
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: game they really needed, right and Trey Hendrickson, like, as
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: we're talking about edge rushers, like that dude is.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Such a baller.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, he is so good.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: He is so athletic, Like he's so athletic, like he's
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: sometimes able to manipulate his body, like from pile driving
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a quarterback into the ground. He even got called on
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: one and I thought he did a fantastic job of
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: trying to limit himself.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: From falling onto the quarterback.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: He's just he's got one of the best combinations I think,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: dj of speed and power in the league off the edge,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: like he's just so he's a special dude.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah and polish, you know, speed, power and polish. He
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: just knows what he's doing. He's a craftsman with using
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: his hands there as a pass rusher. The Bengals feel
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like a team that just we're going to wake up
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and we're going to look and they're going to be
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: like ten and five. You know, at one point in
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: time we're like, oh man, that was They got to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: got themselves into a pretty good position here. They they
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: start off slow, it's their thing, that's what they do.
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  Speaker 1: But They're finding their way here, find ways to win
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: ball games, and just one game under five hundred at
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: this point in time, Miami, Indy. This was again had
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I want to trash this weekend to football.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: There was a couple of really good games looked. We
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: looked at Detroit, Minnesota, Houston, Green Bay, Kcy, San Francisco,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: all interesting games. There were some clunkers. This was a clunker.
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  Speaker 1: Going back through and watching Anthony Richardson in a winning
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: performance ten of twenty four buck twenty nine through the air,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: man didn't love what I saw there, just the vision
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  Speaker 1: I question, pushing balls into traffic, laid on throws. There
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  Speaker 1: was some flashes, you see a couple of those big
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  Speaker 1: time throws that he makes, but on the whole not
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  Speaker 1: not what I wanted to see there In terms of
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: growth with Anthony Richardson, Let's be patient. I know he's raw.
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  Speaker 1: They found a way to win a ball game. Give
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the Colts credit for that, Give their defense credit against
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins team that it sounds like is going
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: to get to it back here. But man, that was
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: not an esthetically pleasing tape to watch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like we got to get Anthony Richardson to
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: a point where he can you know, he had played
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: six games in a row yet as a pro. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like we got to find we gotta find
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  Speaker 2: some time to you know, stay consistently in the lineup
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  Speaker 2: here and see what that brings us. And went in
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: a game where they're without Jonathan Taylor as well, that
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  Speaker 2: was that was not a not a good recipe, but
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: they found a way to win. To credit them for that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they ran Anthony coming off the oblique injury
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  Speaker 2: eight times in this game for fifty six yards and
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  Speaker 2: he actually had to pick third down conversion to kind
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: of help Salt with the clock at the end. So
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  Speaker 2: kind of made some places when they needed to at
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  Speaker 2: the end. But they're gonna need a lot more to contend,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: you know with the Texans and company in the AFC,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: rely in their own division there in the AFC.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no question. And we got a couple a
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  Speaker 1: couple of games coming up tonight. I will be here
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: in Phoenix for Chargers Cardinals. But before that, we have
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Bucks here. Uh, because give me,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: give me one thought there, what are you looking forward
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: to in this game? What decides this game?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Look, I want to see Baker Mayfield, you know, kind
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: of execute against this defense. And you know the pressure
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: that they can put on you from the interior, which
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: we talked about last week, right with Metta, bk and company,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and then obviously with the crew on the edge getting
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: after you as well. And you know what kind of
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: effect does Kyle Hamilton have in this game? And then
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: like again for the Buccaneers offense, you know what happens
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: on the ground in this game?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Is Sean Tucker have it in him? Again?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Do we see more? You know, Bucky irving rocket and
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: rolling here. I just want to see what this Bucks
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: offense can do against a really good Ravens defense here.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I And look you look at the Ravens defense.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Fifty nine yards a game given up on the ground.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: So you've got Baker Mayfield, who's been hot this year.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious if this is one of those games
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  Speaker 1: where you just come out there and say, we're not
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: even going to try to run the football. We're gonna
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: come out here, We're yeah, we're gonna let Baker throw
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: it fifty five times in this ballgame. And then we'll
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: see if on the other side of things, if the
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Ravens get their ground game going. But it's a great matchup.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It's a great doubleheader. The one I'll be at here
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Cardinals Chargers. Chargers beat up at wide receiver, but they
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: do have a healthy offensive line. We saw that last
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: week against Denver. Just having Slater and all back out there.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Going back through that tape, Sean slatery, it's really really good.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: And I know he's missed some time with injury last year. Man,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: when he's healthy and out there, I don't know there's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: anybody better than him with what he does in the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: run game. He's an instant anchor and pass protection. He's
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: playing great. So you've got healthy offensive line, you got
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: some receivers down. I expect them to come out run
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the football. On the other side, with the Arizona Cardinals,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: it's a I mean, it's a box of chocolates.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: It is a Forest Gump team. You watch one tape
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: one week and you get excited about what they do
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, and then you pop on
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the tape against the Packers and you're like, this team
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: is lost. So it is as tricking team to figure out.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: But having Marvin Harrison Junior back and healthy, looking forward
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to seeing him and Kyler Murray on the same field
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: at the same time. I gave coach Harbaugh my comp
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray. By the way Vett I said, you know,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I said, he looks like, you know, the Roadrunner with
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the football, and I thought that would be kind of Roadrunner.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I can imagine Jim maybe growing up maybe watching Roadrunner.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I thought that might Land didn't really. Land didn't really.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Land didn't really get much reaction on that one, but
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: uh more literal. I think Coach Harbaugh is a little
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: more literal, not going with me on the so swinging
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: your mess, you take your shots. That one missed.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know, sometimes you just gotta you gotta keep shooting, Bud,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: you know, you just you know, let's see what you
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: got next week, you know, I mean, you have another
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: opportunity of this thing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I got faith in you. You know.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Look, you know, I think we all you know, sometimes
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: we'll give you a little courtesy laugh. But but for
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: the most part, like.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: You needed to do and I needed that. I needed that.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Those courtesy laughs get me by man. I live. That's
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: that's a fuel for me. I need.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I got to have it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: That's That's why I surround myself with good friends like
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you to give me that's right, that's right away. That
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: was it was fun. I appreciate it. That was fun
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: going to the games. They will be fun having Buck back.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I believe we'll be back with us tomorrow as we
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: have our rookie draft and continue to look at the
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: NFL and what's going on. So appreciate you guys hanging
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: with us. We will see you next time. Right here on.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Move the sticks.