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Ep. 5: Self-Talk, Panic Buying & Other Bad Decisions · We're Not Crazy... RIGHT?

• Erica: Welcome to You're Not Crazy Right. I'm Erica. I'm Jen. And we are on week five. Even though we scrapped the first episode completely. We did. We did. But it's fine. We have. It's Jenn: Welcome to You're Not Crazy, right? I'm Erica. I'm Jen. And we are on week five, even though we scrapped the first episode completely. We did. We did. But it's fine. It's fine. We have It's embarrassing, but we have figured out Erica: embarrassing, but we have figured out our Jenn: our microphones by looking at simple pictures from where we purchased the microphones. Erica: Hi. Jen is sweating. I am sweating. I was in charge of setting everything up today and I haven't cooled down since. And my friend who runs Jenn: Jen is sweating. I am sweating. I was in charge of setting everything up today and I haven't down since. And my friend who runs Erica: Cool. Uh-huh. My lizard friend. I I adjusted the temperature for you so that you didn't freeze. So now I'm hot. It's fine. Well, you were here spraying. I was here. I was making a story of me spraying hairspray on my face. Yes. Yes. Just a call back from last week. So two weeks ago? Two weeks ago. They're kind of running together, but it's okay. It's alright. Everybody's like, I've Jenn: Cool. Uh-huh. My lizard friend. Uh-huh. Me. I I adjusted the temperature for you so that you didn't freeze. Thank you. So now I'm hot. It's fine. Well, you were here sweating and setting up. I was making a story of me spraying hairspray on my face. Yes. Just a callback from last week. So two two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. We're kind of running together, but it's okay. It's all right. Everybody's like, I I was actually talking to somebody on the way here and they're like, What are you gonna talk about this week? I'm like, I have no idea. We just shoot at the hip. Yeah, for the most part. I mean, I have some notes. We do have we have notes. in case we run into a pause. We we had to completely scrap the first episode. So we are now on officially it's going to be episode five. But it's four. But it's four. Don't keep track. It's not your job. Erica: I was actually talking to somebody on the week here and they're what are you gonna talk about this week? I'm like, I have no idea. We just shoot at the hip. Yeah, for the most part. I mean, I have some notes this week. We have notes. in case we run into We're getting better. We are. we had to completely scrap the first episode. So we are now on officially, it's going to be episode five. But it's four. But it's four. It's I just I couldn't, you know, even though the the episode is dead and buried, I couldn't just completely not acknowledge it. So I think that's why I numbered it that way. That's okay. Yeah. So we're here. we made it. I think this is the quickest we've gotten set up and ready to go, which is great. We're basically professionals now. Yes. Anybody wanna start a podcast? We have information. We have all the information now. All of it. We're totally professional. so Jenn: I just I couldn't, you know, even though the the episode is dead and buried, I couldn't just completely not acknowledge it. So I think that's why I numbered it that way. That's okay. Yeah. So we're here. I think this is the quickest we've gotten set up and ready to go, which is great. We're basically professionals now. Yes. Anyone want to start a podcast? We have information that we can share. We can share. I love it. We're totally professional. so I okay. All right. I have ADHD that I have not been diagnosed. Undiagnosed ADHD. So I love working out every day, but I never keep the same routine because I have ADHD. So I I have I have to switch it up. So my friends like Jen, she stays on a religious routine and does a routine. So go with it. So I text my Erica: I okay. All right. I have ADHD. Okay. But I have not undiagnosed. Undiagnosed ADHD. So I love working out every day, but I never keep the same routine because I have ADHD. Sure, that makes sense. I have to switch it up. Yeah. So my friends like Jen, she stays on a religious routine. I do. I have a routine. So good with it. Yeah. So I text my Jenn: friend today, that is a beast and like Erica: friend today that is a beast Jenn: Great with weightlifting. Yeah. She's five one tiny, but she is she's built. Yes, she has like the nicest ass, muscles, musc shoulders, arms, ass, everything. So I text her and I'm like, hey, does this gym because we're I'm joined at the gym, but it we have three gyms in our city. Okay. So I text her, I'm like, Does this woman center Erica: in great shape. Yeah. She's five one tiny, but she is but she's built. Yes, she has like the muscles on muscles. Shoulders, arms, everything. Yep. So I text her and I'm like, hey, does this gym because we're I'm joined at the gym, but it we have three gyms in our city. Okay. So I text her, I'm like, does this woman center Jenn: have leg press? Okay. And she's like, Yeah. Erica: have leg press. Okay. And she's like, yeah, it's right here. She's I was like, okay. do you want to do legs today? And she's like, actually I'm going at nine. And I was like, okay. So then I got super excited because we used to work out religiously a year ago, six days a week. Like really early in the morning. My real arms in. You know what I mean? That's like 40 30. Yeah. Yeah. So Jenn: It's right here. She's I was like, okay. do you want to do legs today? And she's like, actually I'm going at nine. And I was like, okay. So then I got super excited because we used to work out religiously a year ago, six days a week. Like really early. That's where I got my real arms in. You know what I mean? That was like four thirty, five thirty. Yeah. So I was like, Okay, so I'm super excited. I'm going with her because she knows all the things. Erica: I was like, okay, so I'm super excited. I'm going with her. She knows all the things. Right. And she can walk you through it. Sure. Yeah. We go. We finally get to like leg splits. Mm-hmm. Like split squats or okay. Put your back foot on the bench. Yeah. Okay. Bru Bulgarian splits. Yeah. Yeah. I was shaking so bad. She's like, just do six. Did you have weights? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, she's Jenn: She'll watch my form and yeah. We go. We finally get to like leg splits. Like split squats or yeah. Well you put your back foot on the bench. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I w was shaking so bad. And she's like, just do six. Two weights? Yes. Yeah. So I'm like, she's I do weightlift a lot, but she weight lifts religiously. Erica: I do weightlift a lot, but she weight lifts religiously. Right. And she was like, so she was very nice. Like somebody that's like religious to the gym, they don't want people interrupting their routine. Right. And I'm like, I'm gonna come follow you. Well, because they know what they're doing and they just like they go in, knock it out, they're done. So like, so she would get off, she was so good. She's like, Okay, we're gonna do this, this and that. I'm following her. And she gets off and I'm like, You're not gonna be a little bitch, Erica, you're gonna get on there, you're gonna do that, you're gonna like press that. Jenn: And she was like, so she was very nice. Like when somebody that's like religious to the gym, they don't want people interrupting their routine. And I'm like, I'm gonna come follow you around like a lost puppy. A hundred percent. Yeah. So I'm like, so she would get off. She was so good. She's like, okay, we're gonna do this, this and that. I'm following her. And she gets off and I'm like, You're not gonna be a little bitch, Erica. You're gonna get on there and you're gonna do that. You're gonna leg press that two hundred and something pounds. Yeah. Erica: two hundred and something pounds. Yeah. Okay. So I did it. Okay. So I And how did that go? Yeah. So I went home and made wait, what was that? What was that noise? That's what my legs made. Okay. So I went home and I was making eggs and my legs were still shaking so badly. Yeah, I would imagine so. That's a lot. I can't do the podcast today because you know mentally you're all my mind was only on my muscle. Uhhuh Jenn: So I did it. Okay. So I my legs yeah. So I went home and made eggs. No, that that that's that's what my legs were doing. So I went home and I was making eggs and my legs were still shaking so bad. Yeah I would imagine. Jen, to the point I was like, I can't do the podcast today because you know mentally you're all my mind was only on my muscle. And I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to think today. Erica: Not gonna be able to think today, yeah, because my legs could not quit. You know, it's it's interesting because you really do tune every single thing out when you're doing that. That you can't think of anything else, exactly. Right, yeah, which is why it's great. She's like, I'm definitely texting you, and I'm gonna bother you all day. She's I'll be back Thursday when I'm coming. Yeah, yeah. No, and it's good. I need it's good, yeah, it's good. I do advertise. Jenn: Because my legs could not quit shaking. It's it's interesting because you really do tune every single thing out. No, you do. You're doing that. Because you have to do mind to muscle. Yeah. A hundred percent. And she's she's like, You're gonna text me tomorrow and tell me you can't go off the toilet. I'm like, No, I'm ta I'm definitely texting you and I'm gonna bother you all day. But she's like, I'll be Thursday, I'm like, I'm coming. I needed it. I needed to get back in. Yeah. 'Cause I do it by my s bear is in here. Bear, Jen's dog. Erica: Bear is in here. That's great. you're about to get kicked out, is what's about to happen. I needed to get back. I go by myself, but you don't push yourself unless you're with somebody. And she knows how to push it. I think it depends. She if I'm in a class, I'm good. Uh-huh. Especially because there's people around. And I'm not competitive, but she pushes me. She's like, come on, do one more, do two more, you know? And I just needed that. So Jenn: That's great. He's cute. You're right. I needed to get back I go by myself, but you don't push yourself unless you're with somebody. And she knows how to push me. She it depends. She n if I'm in a class, I'm good. Uh-huh. Especially 'cause there's people around. And I'm not competitive, but she pushes me. She's like, Come on, do one more, do two more, you know? And I just needed that. So Erica: My situation right now is Jenn: my situation right now is Erica: the gym that I recently joined. all women, wonderful, love it. They are doing the gym owner does a sort of a regimen that she puts out through an app. And it's every day there's something different to do. So it's legs, it's upper. She she puts it out. So what it's called is bikini prep. And it's basically Jenn: the gym that I recently joined, all women, wonderful, love it. They are doing the gym owner does a sort of a regimen that she puts out through an app and it's every day there's something different to do. So it's legs, it's so she puts it out every day? She she puts it out. So what it's called is bikini prep. And it's okay. Whoa. Bikini prep but without the show. Okay. Okay. Erica: Bikini prep but without the show. Okay. Okay. Jenn: Okay. So but it's great because it's basically four weeks of the same thing, days one through four. Okay. And then it's and then it's a new set after that four weeks. It's completely different. Okay. So this week is the first week. It's basically week five. Uh-huh. Essentially the first week of the new routine. Set. And you do this by yourself. Erica: So but it's great because it's basically four weeks of the same thing, days one through four. Okay. And then it's and then it's a new set after that four weeks. It's completely different. Okay. So this week is the first week. It's basically week five, essentially the first week of the new routine. And you do this by yourself. Jenn: And you do it by yourself, so you can do it at your own pace, which is great. Okay. So there's not a class that you can do okay Erica: And you do it by yourself, so you can do it at your own pace, which is great. Okay. But it's not a class that you can do. No. Mm-mm. It's a full open gym. Okay. And the thing that I love about it this week is that it's less, it's more sets, less reps. Okay. And heavier weight. yeah. And yesterday there was a there was a 45 degree glute. Jenn: Okay. And the thing that I love about it this week is that it's less, it's more sets, less reps, okay, and heavier weight. yeah. And yesterday there was a there was a 45 degree glute situation that I still am feeling. And I'm like, Erica: situation that I still am feeling and I'm like it was very unsuspecting. It was an exercise where I was like, this will be easy. Yeah. And it was not. it was I like I said, I can't even I need my glutes glue in. Yeah. Like you have amazing glutes. Well th some of it's she got it from her mama. I mean, you know, some of that's hereditary. Jenn: It was very unsuspecting. Yeah. this will be easy. Yeah. And it was not. Yeah. What was it? it was I like I said, I can't even I need my glutes gluten. Yeah. Like you have amazing glutes. Well my glutes need to be gluten. It's not our mom. I mean, you know, some of that's hereditary. Damn it. Shit. I have no hope. But sorry, mom. With that being said, there are a lot of Erica: With that being said, there are a lot of squats and things like that involved. and heavier weight, obviously. But you're doing the heavy weight, so it's not like you're not working on it. You know, I get the and she d I'm confident she probably didn't go her heaviest. Uh-huh. But I was confident, I mean not confident, I was impressed with myself. Uh-huh. Because she was like, At least you eight. And I'm like, No, I'm pushing a twelve girl. Yeah. She's doing it because, dude, I had that coffee and that came. But you know what it is? It's Jenn: things like that as well. Yeah. and heavier weight, obviously. But you're doing the heavy weight, so it's not like you're not working on it. You know I kept up. I kept and she d I'm confident she probably didn't go her heaviest. But I was confident, I mean not confident. I was impressed with myself because she was like at least you ate and I'm like, no I'm pushing a twelve girl. I was doing it because dude I had that coffee and that kicks in and I'm like isn't it funny like the the self talk Erica: Isn't it funny like the the self talk that we give ourselves? So bad. I'm so mean to myself. Yes. I don't hate it though. It does it. Well so and sometimes it can be motivating, which is great. But I think that also like there was a period of time where whether it was somebody in my past, you know, a boss or somebody that has like given me perhaps a negative thought. Jenn: That we give ourselves. It's so bad. I'm so mean to myself. Yes. I don't hate it though. It g it does it. It does the job. And sometimes it can be motivating, which is crazy. Yeah. But I think that also like there was a period of time where whether it was somebody in my past, you know, a boss or somebody that has like given me perhaps a negative thought Erica: over something that I've done or couldn't do or whatever. Jenn: over something that I've done or couldn't do or whatever. Erica: And then you live with that and it can perpetuate and it can get really bad. I mean, there's so many things that over the years I'm like, I can't do that anymore. And then I'm like, I I recently it's just been recent. You know, I told myself I couldn't run anymore. What why? You're running great miles. I'm I am running again and trying to beat my time slowly and Jenn: And then you live with that and it can perpetuate and it can get really bad. I mean, there's so many things that over the years I'm like, I can't do that anymore. And then I'm like, I I recently. It's just the recent. You know, I told myself I couldn't run anymore. What Jen, you run great miles. I'm I am running again and trying to beat my time slowly. And it's just it's so interesting that that I think that Erica: It's just it's so interesting that that I think that a lot of women probably go through similar issues. So do you want to hear a quick story? Yes. Okay. When so I worked for government for seven years. And during my government phase, working for the people in the community was amazing. But I wanted to switch over to real estate. And I and I went and got Jenn: A lot of women probably go through similar issues. So do you want to hear a quick story? Yes. Okay. When so I worked for government for seven years. And during my government phase, working for the people in the community was amazing. But I wanted to switch over to real estate. And I and I went and got my master's degree in public administration. Like government was going to be my life. Like that was my career. But Erica: my master's degree in public administration, like government was going to be my life. That was my career. But I had some mentors that eventually switched me over to real estate. I'll never forget I went and sat in my district manager's office and I sat with her and told her that I was leaving to go practice real estate and run my own business in real estate. And she looked at me and she goes, Jenn: I had some mentors that eventually switched me over to real estate. I'll never forget. I went and sat in my district manager's office and I sat with her and told her that I was leaving to go practice real estate and run my own business in real estate. And she looked at me and she goes, basically, I think that's a terrible idea. She's like, You're never going to make it. Erica: Basically, I think that's a terrible idea. She's like, You're never going to make it. And you know what I said in my head, not to her face, respectfully, I said, the fuck I won't. Because I the one thing is like somebody can't tell me I'm not going to do something. Right. Sky's the limit in my brain. Right. I think I get that from my dad. I don't know because I don't know the relationship with him. But the sky's the limit. Yeah. I will if I commit to something, I'm driving and committing. Right. Once I commit, I see through. Yeah. Jenn: And you know what I said in my head, not to her face, respectfully. I said, the fuck I won't. Because I the one thing is like somebody can't tell me I'm not going to do something because the sky's the limit in my brain. I think I get that from my dad. I don't know because I don't have a relationship with him, but the sky's the limit. And I will if I commit to something, I'm driving and committing. You once I commit, I see through. And her saying that to me has drove my real estate career to what it Erica: And her saying that to me has drove my real estate career to what it basically today my husband's now the broker. Yeah. So I'm not a lot in it anymore. But it drove my business to what it was. And every day I woke up and I was motivated to make money and build my business because of that. Well, it was like a catalyst, like a s a a just a switch went off. I was well, it's I was like, I can't believe you Jenn: basically is today. My husband's now the broker. So I'm not a lot in it anymore. But it drove my business to what it was. And every day I woke up and I was motivated to make money and build my business because of that one phrase that she said. You're never going to make it. What was like a catalyst? Like a s a just a switch went off. I was well and then I was like, I can't believe you it in a lot of it I was like, I can't believe she's saying that to me. Right. Because I mean I was a supervisor. I went from Erica: And a of it was like I can't believe she's saying that to me. Right. Because you had a relationship I went from with yeah bare minimum like starting at the bottom and got I didn't make it all the way to the top, but I just did make it up. And I don't know. But yeah based off of what you said, yeah. Right to what it was. Well and similarly, yeah, no. Well, and like similarly, I was never like this. I mean, in high school I had leadership positions. I Jenn: bare minimum like starting at the bottom and government. I didn't make it all the way to the top, but I did make it up. And I don't know. But it did based off of what you said, that drove my real estate career to what it was because of her. Thank you for that, by the way. Thank you for that, by the way. Well but similarly, I was never like this. I mean in high school I had leadership positions. I was really driven. And it's just interesting that I allowed that voice. Erica: was really driven. And it's just interesting that I allowed that voice, whoever that was, to sort of be in my head and and think that I can't do something or that I wouldn't be able to do something. Silly, silly things, you know, where I'm like, I can't do that anymore. And maybe it was just an age thing too. You know, I mean, I know we've talked about this several times that just turning turning that monumental year, whatever it may be, you know, thinking, I can't do that anymore. Jenn: Whoever that was, to sort of be in my head and and think that I can't do something or that I wouldn't be able to do something. Silly, silly things, you know, where I'm like, I can't do that anymore. And maybe it was just an age thing too, you know. I mean, I know we've talked about this several times that just turning, turning that monumental year, whatever it may be, you know, thinking, I can't do that anymore. Erica: I'm better than ever at this point. I mean, seriously. And I'm so glad that I've Jenn: I'm better than ever at this point. I mean, seriously. And I'm so glad that I've Erica: whatever it was is now not at the forefront of my mind. it's not anymore. No, no. I've completely like just because you're out of the school system now. I don't know if that is it because that was a really tough decision to leave. I mean, it was really, really hard. after I left. Jenn: Whatever it was is now not at the forefront of my mind. it's not anymore. No. Okay. I've completely like Do you think it's because you're out of the school system now? I don't know if that is it because that was a really tough decision to leave. I mean it was really, really hard. Yeah. after I left, I there was a good six months where I was like, I don't I don't I don't know. What to do? I don't know. I mean it has Erica: I there was a good six months where I was like I don't I I don't know. What to do? I don't know. I mean, and I had I mean I had responsibilities. I've got things that I do within, you know, the agency and all of that, but it was it was just such a strange transition period. And I think maybe that was part of why I thought I don't know. I don't really know what it is. I think the routine was big. Jenn: I mean, I had responsibilities. I've got things that I do within, you know, the agency and all of that, but it was it was just such a strange transition period and I think maybe that was part of why I thought I don't know. I don't really Did you miss the commitment, do you think, of the school system? The routine commitment or was it more so the people, the kids, like Erica: Yeah, I mean, and I still miss the people and the kids. I mean, I still talk to lots of people in the system. you know, and I mean, Jenn: Yeah, I mean and I still miss the people and the kids. Yeah, sure to lots of people. you know, and I mean Erica: the things that I hear still is so entertaining, you know. But I I have my old employees reach out to me and I have lunch with them and it yeah. I just miss that. That always it was one of my best careers. Well, it's a definite camaraderie of being a teacher. I mean, there's you know, I feel like nurses, teachers, those kinds of like service industries. Jenn: the things that I hear still is so entertaining. I know. I I have my old employees reach out to me and I have lunch with them and it yeah I just miss that. That always it was one of my best careers. Like I loved it. a hundred percent a teacher. Yeah. I mean there's you know, I feel like nurses, teachers, those kinds of like service industries, you know, restaurants, sure servers. I just feel like you have sort of like this bond. Erica: you know, restaurants, servers. I just feel like you have sort of like this bond, maybe a trauma bond, a little bit, you know. but yeah. So I I I'm just I guess I'm I'm glad that I don't feel that way now. And there's trauma. I feel like people trauma motivates people. Right. If if they allow it to. Right. If they allow it set the fire and it could be bad trauma. Yeah. But as long as it Jenn: A little bit, you know. but yeah. So I I I'm just I guess I'm I'm glad that I don't feel that way And there's trauma. I feel like people that sometimes trauma motivates people if if they allow it to. Right. If they allow them to set the fire and it could be bad trauma. Yeah. But as long as it if if they allow it to set the fire under them and drive them versus sitting in that, right, you know, it can really change someone's life. I mean, think about Erica: If if they allow it to set the fire under them and drive them versus sitting in that, right, you know, it can really change someone's life. I mean, think about that and I think that's where my heart goes back when not going back to the sports. But like the some of the my favorite gator players, you look at my gosh. Yes. One of them, I'm not gonna say the name, lost like his grandmother and his mother, and it's like he still made it. Yes. And it gives me goosebumps 'cause I'm like, he went through all of that and not all of his family made it. Right. It's right. It's it Jenn: That and I think that's where my heart goes back. We're not going back to the sports, but like the some of the my favorite Gator players, you look at where they came from and some one of them, I'm not gonna say the name, lost like his grandmother and his mother. And it's like he still made it. Yes. And it gives me goosebumps because I'm like, he went through all of that and not all of his family made it. Like his brothers. And it's it's it really touches my heart because I'm it's if you allow it to set the fire, you can do great things. Yeah. Erica: really touches my heart because I'm it's if you allow it to set the fire, you could do great things. Right. Yeah. I mean it's all about to go through that sometimes, but if you utilize it as a tool. Yeah. You know? Yeah. No. And it's it's great. I mean, I'm those people that are able Jenn: And it's sad that we have to go through that sometimes, but if you utilize it as a tool Yeah. You know? Yeah, no, and it's it's great. I mean, I'm those people that are able Erica: to overcome and and you know, do something productive with it instead of letting it get the best of them. I think that speaks volumes to the character that they have. Yeah, for sure. It's kind of funny that you brought that up because something that I wanted to talk about. Jenn: you know, do something productive with it instead of letting it get the best of them. I think that speaks volumes to the character that they yeah, for sure. It's kind of funny that you brought that up because it's something that I wanted to talk about, but I didn't want to talk that was one of those things that was on the list that I'm like, we'll talk about this a little bit later. And then you brought it up and I'm like, I have to say it now. Well I mean I because that was at the forefront of my mind. Yeah. I ran today and I was like, here we are again. You know? Well I've been listening to a song on repeat and it talks about Erica: But I didn't want to talk that was one of those things that was on the list. I'm like, we'll talk about this a little bit later. Yeah. And you brought it and I'm like, I have to say it. Well, I mean, I just that was at the forefront of my mind because I ran today and I was like, here we are again, you know. So Well, I've been listening to a song on repeat and it talks about basically that nobody's gonna save you. Okay. What's what's the song do we wanna share? we well, we can if I I promise myself I remember the title, but it's on our Instagram page. Jenn: basically that nobody's gonna save you. Okay. And that's we well, we can if I I promised myself I would remember the title, but it's on our Instagram page. I just can't remember the title of the song and who sings it right now. but one of the lines is if nobody's gonna come and no one is going to come and save you. And I that is what drove me my whole life. Like I never wanted anybody to either. I wanted to make it on my own. Erica: I can't remember the title of the song and but one of the lines is if nobody's gonna come and no one is going to come and save you. And I that is what drove me my whole life. Like I never wanted anybody to either. I wanted to make it on my own. Yeah. but it brought me to that moment when I was thinking about that. Yeah. Full circle. Full circle. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not coming to save my kids either. They need to make it Jenn: but it brought me to that moment when I was thinking about that and I'm like, What drives you? Full circle. Yeah. And I'm not coming to save my kids either. They need to make it on their own. Erica: You know, it's the same way, but yeah it listen, we've all No, I know. I mean your older ones. Your older ones, but they're also figuring things out. They're figuring life out. So yeah, that's that's the that's the stage that they're in, which is I get that. You need to realize that they can't be someone there that's going to always come and save you. You need to figure it out. Yeah. I mean, what happens if something happens to me? You have to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. Wait a minute, Jen. Jenn: Not in a mean way, but they it listen, we've all had to be there. Yeah. But they're also figuring things out. They're figuring life out. So yeah, that's that's the that's the stage that they're in, which is I get that. You need to realize that there can't be someone there that's going to always come and save you. You do need to figure it out. Yeah. I mean, what happens if something happens to me? You have to figure it out. Yeah. Wait a minute, Jen. Erica: What? I I'm just getting them in a spot where I can see them. I just needed to move my notes for a second. But I I I do have something that go go ahead. I can lighten this up a little bit. Okay. Jen. Not that we have to. No, but I want to. Okay. one thing that triggers Jen. boy. That I and there's a list. Some people of us that we do is panic buying. my gosh. Jenn: I I'm just getting them in a spot where I can see them. I just needed to move my notes for second. But I I I do have something that I I can lighten this up a little bit. Jen. I don't think we have to. No, but I want to. one thing that triggers Jen. boy. That I and some people some people of us that we do is panic buying. my god. Erica: Okay. I'm gonna let you continue with this and we'll see where you go with it. I wanna see what you think. Wait. I wanna hear your thoughts. I don't know if anybody else does this. Okay. But when you're about to go on vacation, they always say the most expensive part for female about going on vacation is the week before. Is or two weeks 'cause now we need shipping time. Sure. And I will I will agree with it to a point. Wait. Everybody buys stuff prior to going on a vacation. Jenn: you continue with this and we'll see where you go with it. I want to see what you think. Wait. I want to hear your thoughts. I don't know if anybody else does this, but when you're about to go on vacation, they always say the most expensive part for a female about going on vacation is prior is or a few weeks because now we need shipping time. Sure. And I will I will agree with it to a point. Wait. Everybody buys stuff prior to going on a vacation. But then agreed to it to a point. It it may we have those things that we have already researched and purchased. And then 24 hours to 48 hours prior to vacation, there's a thing called panic buying where you just don't feel like it's just quite good enough, or there's a missing piece that needs to still be there. So you go to the local stores and you panic buy shit, Jen calls it, right? Yes. Now Erica: But I will agree to it to a point. We have those things that we have already researched and purchased. And 24 hours to 48 hours prior to there's a thing called panic buying where you just don't feel like it's just quite good enough, or there's a missing piece that needs to still be there. So you go to the local stores and you panic buy shit, Jen calls it, right? Yes. Now Jenn: Jen is going to comment off of our panic buying but then she's also going to tell us her method for packing. Proced Well Jenny do need to give credit where credit's due and so remind us about that. okay. Here's the thing. Erica: Jen is going to comment on it, but then she's also going to tell us her method for packing. okay. Well, I do need to give credit where credit's due. And so remind me about that. okay. Here's the thing. I agree that Jenn: That Erica: your hair appointment or your spray tan or whatever the case may be. What listen, if you're a guy listening to this, first of all, thank you. Second of all, Jenn: spray tan or whatever the case may be. What listen, if you're a guy listening to this, first of all, thank you. Second of all. Do guys get spray tans? Perhaps. Yeah. I don't really know what to do. but, you know, you might go and get your hair cut. You might go and, you know, I I don't know what else. but Botox, nails, lips, eyelashes. You want me to keep going? Hairspray? Don't forget the hairspray. Don't forget the guys. mini hairspray so you can close and Erica: Perhaps. Yeah. I don't really know any that do. but you know, you might go and get your hair cut. You might go and, you know, I I don't know what else. but snail just keep going. Okay, okay. I'm talking about the girls, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The or the the guys. mini hairspray, so you can cut this on the gosh. Okay. The point is, I'm okay with the appointments, I'm okay with all of that. What I am not okay with is Jenn: Okay. The point is, I'm okay with the appointments. I'm okay with all of that. What I am not okay with is Erica: The 24 hours prior where certain friends of mine multiple multiple certain friends of mine. There's people out there that do this, by the way. I'm sure there are that will go to the store. They're at the store. They're spending like an hour and a half at some store because they're trying to buy more things for the trip. Jenn: twenty-four hours prior, where certain friends of mine multiple. Multiple. Certain friends of mine. There's people out there that do this, by the way. I'm sure there are. This is a relatable. This is relatable. They're at the store. They're spending like an hour and a half at some store because they're trying to buy more things for the trip. Erica: It's like just pack already. Pack. You could have been packed three days ago. I would have been packed. I love how you just said. Jenn: It's like just pack already. You could have been packed three days ago. I love how you said packed. I love how you just said one store. We go to like five. I know. It's such a waste of time. You could be spending it actually doing something that makes sense. Instead, y'all are off I couldn't be y'all last week. I could not. I was like, why? We first of all, find mine. We have Erica: Store we to like five. I know it's such a waste of time. You could be spending it actually doing something that makes sense. Instead, y'all are off. I couldn't with y'all last week. I could not. I was like, why? We first of all find my. We have we have our locations. And I look because I like to see where my children are. And I was looking, I'm like, what are they doing now? What are they doing? Jenn: We have our locations. And I because I like to see where my children are. And I was looking, I'm like, what are they doing now? What are they doing? Y'all are at some store buying more shit that you don't need for the damn trip Did you use the shit that you got? I did one thing. I mean, that's the point. And so then you get back and you can do what? Return. Yeah, because I didn't like anything that I bought. Erica: Y'all are at some store buying more shit that you don't need for the damn trip. Did you use the shit that you got? I did one thing. I mean, that's the point. And so then you get back and you have to do what? Return. You know, because I didn't like anything. You're just buying shit because I can't. I cannot. I can't. One of the dresses. I was like, this doesn't even get I bought because they didn't have my size, so I bought it the size bigger and it was like floating on me. Jenn: You're just buying it. It's crap. I can't. I cannot. I can't. One of the dresses I was like, this doesn't even fit. I bought it 'cause they didn't have my size, so I bought it the size bigger. It was like floating on me. Erica: I that makes no sense. But I still brought it in case. my god. That makes no sense. Wait, it gets worse. I didn't even tell you this before you go into your packing. Jenn: But I still brought it in case. He got the bloat moment on vacation. Wait, it gets worse. I didn't even tell you this. Before you go into your packing, when our friend and I we got to Georgia, we go into Walmart because we have to buy waters and we bought some champagne for the next day, morning, you know, and all the things. So we're going, we're walking in walking in Walmart. And I literally said, Don't look right. Erica: When our friend and I we got to Georgia, we go into Walmart because we have to buy waters and we bought some champagne for the next day morning, you know. Yep, and all the things. So we're going, we're walking probably overbought there too. We're walking in Walmart. And I literally said, Don't look right. Don't look right. It was just a quick glance. Bam. We were like magnets. my god. Stop. We were in the weeds. We were Jenn: Don't look right. It was just a quick glance. Bam. We were like magnets. my we couldn't stop. We were in the weeds. We were what was it? We were trying on sweaters over our clothes. that y'all came home with stuff. It didn't even fit in our suitcase. We had to have our other friend with the bigger suitcase. We're like, Can you please bring this back for us? That is diabolical. Wait, listen, Walmart has some cute things right now. Erica: What was it? We were trying on sweaters over our clothes. that's y'all came home with stuff. We didn't even fit in our suitcase. We had to have our other friend with the bigger suitcase. We're like, can you please bring this back for us? That is diabolical. Listen, Walmart has some cute things right now. No, and they do. I will full full credit. My friend, one of my friends has been on it. She's there's a new Jenn: they do. I'm gonna tell you full credit. But our Walmart sucks. She's there's a new not new. There's a designer who's in charge of I can tell yes and it is. It's it's great. But our Walmart sucks. So when you go to certain cities and you won't go in there and you're like, they don't have this in my Walmart. I understand. So we went a little cray cray. I know. But we made it to the waters eventually. I would like to remind you Erica: Not new. There's a designer who's in charge of a lot of the clothing right now and it is. It's it's great. It is Walmart sucks. So when you go to certain cities and you won't go in and you're like, they don't have this in my Walmart. I understand. So we went a little cray crack. I I know, but we made it to the waters eventually. I would like to remind you yet again, I think this is probably the third week in the in a row that we've discussed the temperature where we live. It's still ninety degrees. Jenn: Yet again. I think this is probably the third week in the road that we've discussed the temperature where we live. Yeah. It's still ninety degrees. And we bought sweaters. Erica: Mm-hmm. Okay. You know, I think you probably only need like two in your closet. Jenn: You know, I think you probably only need like two. I'm also returning one of the sweaters that I bought because I was panic buying. I was excited. I'm like, I love this. And then I got home and like I really don't like this. I can't. So anyway, packing though. I will say. Tell me. What do you do? no, so I need to give credit to my friend. she actually is the one that introduced me, I'm gonna do a little shout out, Florida Sewcialite. I love her. I love her. and it's so like you sew with the needle in Erica: I was excited. I'm like, I like this. I'm gonna go home and make it later on this. I can't. So anyway, packing though, I will say. no, so I need to give credit to my friend. she actually is the one that introduced me. I'm gonna do a little shout out, Florida Socialite. So follow her page. and it's so like you sew with a needle and thread, so Florida Socialite. but she is the one that introduced the Sudoku method of closing. Jenn: but she is the one that introduced the Sudoku method of clothing. Erica: Clothing. So we hadn't really talked about packing necessarily. So you're talking clothing in general. Clothing in general. Yes. Just discussing like if you line up your clothes in a Sudoku method, so three basically a three by three grid. So you've got three items at the top, three items in the middle, three items at the bottom. Okay. Jenn: Okay. We hadn't really talked about packing necessarily. So you're talking clothing in general. This is not packing. Okay. Yeah. Shoot. Just discussing like if you line up your clothes in a Sudoku method, so three basically a three by three grid. So you've got three items at the top, three items in the middle, three items in the What are the items? Okay. I need a picture, a visual. Erica: I well, and maybe we'll have to put a visual up when we do when we do this. But Jenn: What well and maybe we'll have to put a visual up when we do when we do this. But what's the three and three? Essentially it's a it's a top, bottom layer, so like a jacket. Okay. Okay. And then on the next row, okay do like I'm gonna probably get this wrong. But you do Erica: Essentially it's a it's a top bottom layer. So like a jacket. Okay. Okay. And then on the next row, you do like I I'm gonna probably get this wrong, but you do bottom layer top or something like that. And basically I I'm getting this backwards. Jenn: Bottom layer top or something like that. And basically, I I'm getting this backwards. I would really need to write it out. Okay. but I I did call you off guard, I'm sorry. Basically, once you have it all lined up, you have all the way across one outfit. Okay. Diagonally, one outfit. Okay. Across at the bottom, another outfit. Okay. Up and down an outfit. okay. On the other side, up and down. So it's literally Seduco. Exactly. Erica: I would really need to write it out. Okay. but basically No no no, it's okay. Basically, once you have it all lined up, you have all the way across one outfit. Okay. Diagonally, one outfit. Okay. Across at the bottom, another outfit. Okay. Up and down an outfit. On the other side, up and down an outfit. And in the middle, up and down exactly. So you're re wearing things but in a different order. Correct. Jenn: So you're re wearing things but in a different order. Correct. My I can't no. Erica: Yep. I know. I know you can't. I I've I know. I tried, I tried to talk to you about this. It does help if you have sort of like I wouldn't want I don't want to call it a color palette necessarily, but if you have sort of a theme, like a maybe one color that you can kind of draw in, it does help, I think. I here's the thing. Okay. I've been to Europe many times. I used to for that type of vacation, I would really. Jenn: I know. I tried, I tried to talk to you about this. It does help if you have sort of like I wouldn't want I don't want to call it a color palette necessarily, but if you have sort of theme, like a maybe one color that you can kind of draw in, it does help, I think. I here's the thing. Okay. I've been to Europe many times. I see for that type of vacation I would really need to lean into that. Yes. Yes. Okay. Erica: into that. Yes. Yes. Okay. I also lived there. So we would I backpacked there, you know. So we would have to really pack light in order to get to these places. Okay. you brought at one point you brought just a backpack. Yes. When I first moved over there, I was a freshman in high school. Going into some going into my sophomore year. Well right, but I I was going into my sophomore year. Well yeah. and we when we when we moved Jenn: there so we would I backpacked there. Okay. So we would have to really pack light in order to get to these places. Okay. so you brought at one point you brought just a backpack. Yes. When I first moved over there, I was a freshman in high school. So you didn't even going into my software you didn't even have clothes. It didn't Well right. But I I was going into We were wearing our friends' clothes. Well and we when we f when we moved, we just were like okay we're gonna travel for a month. Mm-hmm. We're Erica: We just were like, okay, we're gonna travel for a month. We're only taking a backpack. Now listen, here's the other thing. Sophomore in high school, this is two thousand one. Okay. So you don't have we I didn't have a cell phone. I didn't have a tablet. I didn't have, you know, any of that stuff. But I did have my my walkman or, you know, my CD player, disc disc man, whatever. I had some CDs and I pretty much Jenn: Only taking a backpack. Now listen, here's the other thing. Whoa. High school, this is 2001. Okay. Yes. You don't have I didn't have a cell phone. I didn't have a tablet. No. Yeah, life was different. Life was different. Yeah. But I did have my my wall man or you know, my CD player, disc disc man, whatever. I had some CDs and I pretty much packed like that. Erica: packed like that in my backpack and that's how I got around. Well back then I feel like we dress now for social media to take that. And I get that. But it can be done conservatively. I'm maybe. But I don't mean in like r risque, like provocative. I mean conservative in the way of Jenn: in my backpack and that's how I got around. Well I feel like back then I feel like we dress now for social media to take pictures when in in that s yeah. But back then conservative I'm well, maybe. But I don't mean in like risque like provocative. I mean conservative in the way of I thought you went back to the panic buying. Sorry. Well that's yes. Yeah I guess that's what I I can't. That's that's always gonna be me. I'm sorry. I sorry Erica: Well, that's yes. Yeah, I yes, that's what I was in inferring. That's always gonna be me. No, and there are just there's different types of packers. I've just leaned into this thing's gonna hit me in the face. I've leaned into trying to pack more minimal. Now, with that being said, there are times, there are trips, there are things that I'm a little unsure of all of the activities. And so you do have to pack more and you know, dresses take up Jenn: No, and there are just diff there's different types of packers. I've just leaned into this thing's gonna hit me in the face. I've leaned into trying to pack more minimal. Now, with that being said, there are times, there are trips, there are things that I'm a little unsure of all of the activities. Mm-hmm. And so you do have to pack more and you know, dresses take up Erica: You know, if you have to wear a dress every single night and then you have a different day outfit, sim which is kind of what I had going on for this weekend with the wedding, that becomes a little bit more tough. But I did wear everything in my suitcase. No, you're good at it. Over the weekend. Yeah. You're very good at that. Yeah. But I will say, like when I travel, I usually travel with a carry on. So I'm not Yeah, yeah. I don't overpack where it's like I have this huge suitcase. Right. I unlike our other friend. Friends. We love you, Jenn: You know, if you have to wear a dress every single night and then you have a different day outfit, so which is kind of what I had going on for this weekend with the wedding, that becomes a little bit more tough. But I did wear everything in my suitcase. No, you're good at that. No, you're very good at that. But I will say, like when I travel, I usually travel with a carry-on. So I'm not I don't overpack where it's like I have this huge suitcase. Now I did take friends. Erica: but Yeah, love you. Jenn: Yeah, love you. I did bring a big suitcase this past trip because she was already who I was traveling with was already checking a bag and I'm like, well, if she's gonna check, then I'm just going to check. Cause I'm like, if I have to wait for hers, then I'm just gonna walk freely through the airport so I can have two glasses of champagne or whatever I need to have because I'm going on vacation. Yeah. So but I do normally fit everything into a carry-on. But trust me, if you Jen, Jen has done this like maybe Erica: I did bring a big suitcases cash trip because she's traveling with this girl checking a bag and like, well, she's gonna check. Yeah, then I'm just going to check. 'Cause I'm like, if I have to wait for hers, then I'm just gonna walk freely through the airport so I can have two glasses of champagne or whatever and you have going on vacation. Different kind of trip. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So but I do normally fit everything into a carry-on. But yeah, trust me, if you Jen Jen has done this like maybe Jenn: a few times, not to me, but I've done to you and I Erica: a few times, not to me, but I've done to you and I Jenn: you know. But if Jen called me and was like, We're leaving tomorrow, we need to go and we're gonna go have some fun in like Siesta Key or something, listen, I'll pack a shirt and we're going. Yeah. I don't I don't need we did do that. Yeah. In twenty twenty. Well there was a a time just recently I was like can you go to Stuart with me? You're like, Yeah we can leave tomorrow if we need to. Yeah. So yeah, I would pack minimal. Erica: You know, but if Jen called me and was like, We're leaving tomorrow, we need to go and we're gonna go have some fun and like C S to key or something, listen, I'll pack a shirt and we're gonna Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We did that. I don't need we did do that. Yeah. In twenty twenty. Well we needed to get out of time just recently. I was like, Can you go to Stuart with me? You're like, Yeah, we can leave tomorrow if we need to. Yeah. So yeah, I would pack Part of the benefit of having a flexible job. huh. Yeah. Yeah. Jenn: job. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Erica: Yeah. We are blessed. Yes. Very lucky. Very lucky that we have the ability to do that. Can't always make it work, but we try. Yeah. You do try. But you got on your list over there. let's see here. Jenn: We are blessed in that. Very lucky. Yes. Very lucky that we have the ability to do that. Can't always make it work, but we try. Yeah. We do try. What you got on your list over there? let's see here. Erica: We've talked about a lot of it already. Damn, we're so good. I know. Well, it's because I've been spiraling on it this morning. Yes. You you wanna I'm Jen and I are going to have a series of things that like she has I've got my lists ready. She we'll we'll I I'm I'm only gonna just do a little teaser. I've got my banned from the left lane. Jenn: Damn, we're so good. I know. Well, it's because I've been spiraling. Wait, you wanna know what I wanna talk about now that we're talking about clothes? Yes. You you wanna I'm Jen and I are going to have a series of things that like she has I've got my lists ready. She has I'm only gonna just do a little teaser. I've got my band from the left lane. Yeah, so we're gonna do a series on Jen's bans and things that frustrate me. Yes. Erica: Yeah, so we're gonna do a series on Jenns bands and things and my petty hates. Yes. So you mentioned one from each and I'm gonna mention one that really one from each. Okay, go ahead. Okay. You think you're a Okay, so banned from the left lane. Only one. One. I'm just gonna start with the top. Convertibles. Okay. Convertibles are banned from the left lane. You're joy riding. You're in a convertible. Correct. You have no business breaking the law in the left lane. Jenn: So you mentioned one from each and I'm gonna mention one that really from each. Okay, go ahead. Okay. You do yours first. Okay, so banned from the left lane. Only one. One. I'm just gonna start with the top. Convertibles. Okay. banned from the left lane. Well, you're joy writing. You're in a convertible because you're joy writing. Do you know I've never paid attention to this stuff that if for the fact that you've made a list is hysterical. Erica: Do you know I've never paid attention to this stuff that the fact that you've made a list is hysterical? Because when I'm in the left lane and I can't get by them, that's that's when I make the list. I just I have a running list. Yep. so that's the first one on my banned for the left lane. And on my petty hates, the top, the very first one is the genuine use of the word precious, unless you're southern. we've talked about this. You mentioned it on one of the Jenn: them that's that's how I make the list. I just I have a running list. Yep. so that's the first one on my band for the left lane and on my petty hates the top the very first one is the genuine use of the word precious unless you're southern. we've talked about this. You mentioned it on one of the the first podcast maybe that we nixed. Yeah. Okay so precious. The word precious I can't stand it. I feel like so real southern people use the word precious. Erica: the first podcast maybe that you that we trashed. Yeah. Yes. Okay, so precious. The word precious. I can't stand it. I don't like it. That's why I said unless you're southern. Okay. I g because they they can't help it most of the time. I have a very Can you just give us an example with a southern voice, please? Jenn: Okay. I because they help it most of the time. I have a very Can you just give us an example with a southern voice, please? Erica: I have a friend, she's from Tennessee, and she does use the word precious and it's fine because it works. Yes. I I don't know. No, I I don't think I can do it. I don't think I can do it. Jenn: I have a friend, she's from Tennessee, and she does use the word precious and it's fine because it Well, I think I know who you're talking about. Yes. I I don't know if I've heard I can do it. Do it. Just try it. in that precious. Yeah. And and that it's just very off the cuff. It's not disgusting to me in that instance. Because she's from Tennessee, I think. You know. Erica: in that precious. And and that it's just very off the cuff. It's not disgusting to me in that instance. Because she's from Tennessee, I think though, you know. Jenn: other than that, I I feel like 'cause precious can kind of be if people use it wrong, they kind of could you be a little spiteful. It could be a little spiteful. That or really creepy. That, yes. A hundred percent. Erica: Other than that, I don't like it. This precious can kind of ignore me. It literally gave me the chills just now. I'm not joking. It could be a little spiteful. That or really creepy. That, yeah. A hundred percent. Like serial killer creepy. Jenn: Like serial killer cookies. Yeah. If you're the use the word precious Erica: If you use the use the word Jenn: don't talk to Jen or me. Well, okay. This is a really random tangent, but but the fact that I just said that word reminds me of did you ever watch Lord of the Rings? No. The weeds, but No, go to Smeagol. the there's this character who's like very Erica: Don't talk to Jen or me. Well, okay. This is a really random tangent, but but the fact that I just said that word reminds me of did you ever watch Lord of the Rings? We're getting into the weeds. But Smeagol, the there's this character who's like very I I don't even know what he is because I never read the books. I whatever. but I did watch the movies with my brothers. I've got all brothers, and that's what he says. He's like, Jenn: I don't even know what he is because I never read the books. I whatever. but I did watch the movies with my brothers. I've got all brothers. And that's what he says. He's like, when he's talking about the ring. I I've seen that clip. Yeah. Yeah. So that cr kind of creeps me out. Yeah. So one thing Yes, share your list. I need to use Well, I just got one thing that I was going to talk about it on here that really ruins it for me. And this is bad. Erica: Shit, when he's talking about the ring for Lord of the Rings. Yeah. So that cre kind of creeps me out. so there's that. So one thing. Yes, share your list. I need to hear. Okay. That really ruins it for me. Okay. When I love something that I'm shopping for, and then I look at the reviews and people show them wearing it. Jenn: When I love something that I'm shopping for and then I look at the reviews and people show them wearing it, ruins it for me. Wait, that doesn't I find that helpful. No, because I'm like 'cause you see this item and you're like, my God, that model looks and not all the models are skinny and fit. Models confused. No, when you're looking at a piece of clothing, the model you're looking at on like Erica: ruins it for me. Wait, that doesn't I find that helpful. No, because like because you see this item and you're like, my God, that model looks and not all the models. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Models or reviews? I'm confused. No, when you're looking at a piece of clothing, the model you're looking Are we talking about on like Amazon or something? What are we talking? Anywhere, Amazon. Dillard's okay. So there's somebody wearing Jenn: Where we talking? Anywhere, Anthropology, Amazon any any store, Nordstrom, Dillard's. So there's somebody wearing the piece of clothing, the item. But then you click on the reviews, and this is even Rent the Runway. You look click on the reviews, and there's people wearing the item. And it's I'm not faulting them. I'm saying, God, if that looks like that on them, it looks that bad on me. And it makes me not buy I'm not saying like, God, these people. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm like, God, I think. Erica: The item clothing. Okay. The item. But then you click on the reviews, and this is even rent the runway. You look click on the reviews and there's people wearing the item. And it's I'm not faulting them. I'm saying, God, if that looks like that on them, it looks that bad on me. Okay. Like, God, these people. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. I'm like, God, I'm Jenn: actually imagine this being cute on me and then I look at the reviews and I'm like, no, I can't do this. I see. Okay. That's what I'm saying. That would be poor reviews. Wouldn't Erica: actually imagine this being cute on me. And then I look at the reviews and I'm like, no, I can't do this. I see. Okay. That's what I'm saying. But that's that would be poor reviews. Wouldn't that just have like bad reviews in general? Right, but doesn't the don't the reviews have bad reviews? Like, isn't isn't the review section that looked and they like it and they like it, and then I look at their picture, and I'm not saying they look terrible, I'm just like that would look bad on me. I gotcha. So then I gotcha. You're okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay all the time. Jenn: that just have like bad reviews? But I can't do it. I click off the item. I can't do it. Right. But doesn't the don't the reviews have bad reviews? No, it's like people saying I love this item and and they like it and then I look at their picture. And I'm not saying they look terrible. I'm just like that would look bad on me. So then I get but the reviews the reviews ruin it for me all the time. Erica: Okay. I understand now. Sometimes I'm like, if I really like someone, I just have to not look at the reviews. Okay, that is so interesting. Because people do it more on Amazon. Jenn: To the point sometimes I'm like if I really like someone, I just have to not look at the reviews. And Amazon is a big with that because people do it more on Amazon. Yeah. Yeah, it's bad. I like to filter. Erica: Yeah. Yeah, it's bad. I like to filter by like my build, like height, weight, whatever. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. And then I just I only look at those. I know. Yeah. So I see myself as fluffy. Okay. Even though you're not you psychopath. When I look, I'm like, God, if she has cellulite you're definitely. my gosh. If she has a muffin top, I'm you're definitely seeing my muffin top. So I'm not saying it looks like Jenn: Like height, weight, whatever. That's what I'm talking about. And then I just But we all see ourselves different. I know. So I see myself as fluffy. So when I look when I when I look, I'm like, God, if she has cellulite, you're definitely gonna be able to see my cellulite. my gosh. If she has a muffin top, I'm you're definitely seeing my muffin top. So I'm not saying it looks like I'm not hating on her, I'm saying Erica: Not hurt. I'm saying that's what I'm gonna look like. This is what America sees. Also, I think that the mirrors, I question mirrors and like what they're doing. definitely. I'm like, a mirror is really the mirrors in Target can go fuck themselves. Also such as TJ Max. Like you look in the mirror in the dressing room, you're like, this looks great. And you look in the trio mirror, you're like, shit. There's so bad. Trying on bathing suits in Target. Okay, but I do. Jenn: That's what I'm gonna look like. This is what America sees. Also, I think that the mirrors I question the mirrors and like what they're doing. definitely. I'm like, a mirror is really the mirrors in Target can go fuck themselves. Also s some in TJ Maxx. Like you look in the mirror in the the dressing room, you're like, this looks great. And you look in the trio mirror, you're like, shit. Shit. So bad. Trying on bathing suits in Target. Okay, but I do appreciate Erica: Rude, I didn't need to know what the back Jenn: I didn't need to know what the back Erica: side looked like. I didn't know no, you say that you appreciate it. I don't need that information. My own review, I don't buy it. I'm like, shit, that's what people see from the back. I know I have a flat ass, so when when I look at this, I'm like, shit, I don't ever look at when girls get put on jeans and they look at their ass. I'm no, I don't, because that I will not buy any clothes. So I'm like, I never look from the back, but target, I'm like, damn it. You're forced. You're welcome. Jenn: didn't. No, no. You say that you appreciate it. I don't But I don't buy it. That's my own review. I don't buy it. I'm like shit. That's what people see from the back. I know I have a flat ass. So when when I look at this, I'm like shit. I don't ever look at b like girls get put on jeans and they look at their ass. I'm like, no, I don't because that I will not buy any clothes. So I'm like, I never look from the back, but Target, I'm like, damn it. You're forced. You're welcome. Target says, here you go. Erica: Target says, here you go. Here's a backside mirror. I don't try anything on in your mirrors. Jenn: Here's a back side. Target, I don't try anything on in your mirrors. I don't think I don't I don't think they care. They don't. They're like we're doing So but anyway, so I don't it saves my husband a lot of money when I go to Target. You put the bath suit on, you're like, Erica: I don't think I don't I don't think they care. They don't. They've been there for a while. So but anyway, so I don't it saves my husband a lot of money when I go to Yeah, okay. I mean, hey. Yeah. Jenn: boy. That's what the people are looking at. Erica: Wow. Jenn: It's so bad. I just don't like it. I just so I actually bought some this morning from this random site and it's so bad. I hate the algorithm thing because once you click on one ad, you're fucked. Okay, it is repetitive. You're gonna see it. for months. You can click and you can say, already bought it. They're gonna continue to do it. it's awful. So I have this one and I'm like, you wanna know what you're a month and you're Erica: I hate bathing suit shopping. It's pretty much the worst. I just don't like it. So I actually bought some this morning from this random site and it's so bad. I hate the algorithm thing because once you click on one ad, you're fucked. yeah, you're gonna see it forever. You're gonna see it. And you can you can click and you can say, already bought it. They're gonna continue to do it. Doesn't matter. Yeah. So I have this one and I'm like, you wanna know what you're gonna try it? Jenn: I did. I bought I bought one suit, I just paid for the shipping. Erica: I did They got you. One suit. Okay. Okay. And I'm like, I'm just when it comes in. These are pictures. It's really bad, Jen. I'm disappointed in myself, but I'm like, all right, if I waste 80 bucks, I waste 80 bucks. 80 bucks? So shh, don't I'm not putting this on the box. I can't put this out on social media. Okay, you want me to clip this? So the bathing suit is Danny. She didn't Jenn: And I'm like, I'm just when it comes in ca and these are pictures, it's really bad, Jen. I'm disappointed in myself, but I'm like, all right, if I waste eighty bucks, I waste eighty bucks. Shut up. So shh, don't put I'm not putting this on pocket. I can't put this out on social media, my husband because yeah. No. So the bathing suit, it like looks like somebody took it on their floor. Erica: spend eighty dollars. It looks like somebody took it on their floor, but it looks like I would like it. Jenn: I it looks like somebody took it on their floor, but it looks like I would like it. The Erica: Uh-huh. The and the materials look soft and seamless. Okay. What why don't they make seamless bathing suits? Why does it have I don't know, they make underwear that's seamless. I'm like, what is with it? What's the problem? Yeah. What's the difference? Why do they have that elastic thing on the right? I'm like, I don't need something elastic squeezing in my muffin top. Help a girl out. Help a girl out. There's a reason why seamless underwear has flew off in the market. Yes. Because Because it looks Jenn: and the material looks soft and seamless. Like, why don't they make seamless bathing suits? Why does it have to have underwear that's seamless? I'm like, what is with it? What's the problem? Yeah. What's the difference? Why do they have that elastic thing on the top? I'm like, I don't need something elastic squeezing in my muffin top. Help a girl out. Help a girl out. There's a reason why seamless underwear has flew off in the market because Because it looks Erica: like it's just, you know, there. Yeah. Just Jenn: Like it's just, you know, there. Yes. I don't want I want it to be seamless under my clothes and naked. I want it to be seamless. Erica: I just want I want to be seamless under my clothes and naked. I want to be seamless. We've really gone there. If somebody shares a freaking bathing cigar and that's seamless, I'll buy it. I'll everyone possibly please. Yeah. I don't always with the skinny strips. Like listen, I'm gonna be forty. I don't want this. I understand there's girls out there that love it. Yeah. I'm just saying for me, huh. I don't want Jenn: If somebody shares a freaking bathing suit brand that's seamless, I'll buy it. I'll be your number one customer. And stop always with the skinny strips. Like, listen, I'm gonna be 40. I don't want this. I understand there's girls out there that love it. Yeah. I'm just saying, for me, I don't want this. Also, I can't do the like high waisted. I can't do the high waist. I've got too I'm too short. I've got too short of a torso for that. I don't have the hips for high waisted. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I look like I'm Erica: Also, I can't do the like high waisted shenanigans. I can't I've got too I'm too short. I've got too short of a torso for that. I it I look like I'm wearing a diaper when I when yeah yeah, I look like I'm wearing a diaper. I can't do it. Yeah. Jenn: Yes. It is taking my flat ass and longating it like this. I don't like the high-waisted. I told you the brand from Amazon that I've been using really like. I like it. Yeah. I bought it. Yeah. Wha what's it called? CRZ yoga. Yes. I was gonna say yoga stuff, but they also make bathing suits Now they I really like them. No, they do they have something there. I just they're not too tight. I wish they had cuter. Erica: I don't like the high range. I know. I told you the brand from Amazon that I've been using that I really like and they're good. They're good. I bought it. Yeah. what's it called? CRZ Yoga. Yes. Well, they've got workout stuff, but they also make bathing suits and I really like No, they just have something they don't ho they're not too tight. I wish they had cuter prints. Jenn: I just wish they had the prints and the colors. I know. It's it's basic colors. what am I top down? I don't know what happened Erica: I know they're prints in the color. Yeah, I know. It's it's basic colors, but it's fine. Okay, did we un wow, did we get unbuttoned? Jenn: there. No, that one's a okay. No, but it stays shut. I got scared for a second. I was like, God, I'm popping a titty. That we only have one friend that pops titties and it ain't me. my god. my God. I love her. I don't know if we're gonna keep that in or not. Erica: I think you did get unbuttoned. Wait, no. That one was okay. Okay, okay, okay. One for the whole stage, right? speaking of bathing suits. my god. I love her. but we'll see. Everybody has seen it, so it's fine. Everybody, it's fine. Jenn: Well, at this point everybody has seen it, so it's fine. Everybody. It's fine. Erica: Well, some I mean most of us. I just got scared. What? What did you think this time? Wait, I gotta say, when I'm talking, I squirrel in my own brain so bad. It's that's why a lot of times when I'm talking, I like go back and forth. Did you black out again? No, I thought I recorded and scrolling. Jenn: So I mean. my god, I just I just got scared. What? What did you think this time? Wait, I gotta say, when I'm talking, I squirrel in my own brain so bad. It's that's why a lot of times when I'm talking, I like go back and forth in my own. No, I thought I didn't hear record and it's been recording. My God. Erica: my gosh. Okay. Well, there's that. Okay. Okay. So I want to go deep again. Jenn: my god. Okay. Well, there's that. Okay. Okay, so I want to go deep again. One thing that I have some hard times with, and I I I think I've learned how to navigate it a little bit, is when you what how do you I want to hear your perspective on this. Erica: One thing that I have some hard times with, and I I I think I've learned how to navigate it a little bit is when you what how do you I want to hear your perspective okay. How do you handle a person going through a hard time? Like and I wanna say I don't I wanna say a friend because I feel like a family member you can be a you can really no, I don't even know how to say this, but Jenn: How do you handle a person going through a hard time? Like, and I wanna say I don't I wanna say a friend because I feel like a family member you can be a you can really not I don't even know how to say this, but a family I feel like is a little bit different because if they're family, you're probably going through the same thing. Okay, that's what I wanna say. But as far as like a friend or even like a close coworker. Erica: A family I feel like is a little bit different because your family you're probably going through the same thing. Correct. Okay, that's what I wanted to say. But as far as like a friend or even like a close coworker, like how do you handle, how do you handle a friend or a coworker or somebody going through that somebody that's close to you going through a really hard time? okay, so my first instinct was to say that I'm not great at it. I suck. I just say I suck. Jenn: Like how do you handle how do you handle a friend or a coworker or somebody going through that somebody that's close to you going through a really hard time? okay, so my first instinct was to say that I'm not great at it. I suck. I just say I suck. I tell them that's how I handle it. I think that helps. that's my first instinct is to say that I'm not great at it. However, I do think it really depends on the situation. Erica: I tell them yes, I think that helps. that's my first instinct is to say that I'm not great at it. However, I do think it really depends on the situation. And it does depend on the person. And it depends on the person. Yes. Jenn: And it does depend on the person. It on the person. But you have to really know the person to understand what they want. Erica: and I think this this might get a little woo woo for a second, but I think it really depends on like a person's Jenn: think this this might get a little woo-woo for a second, but I think it really depends on like a person's connection to them. Erica: connection to them. Jenn: like in a spiritual way. So what I mean by that is I feel like I don't know if you've ever gotten this feeling, but I feel like there are people that have come into my life maybe they're there they're they're there still, maybe they're not, where I feel almost like an instant connection where like maybe I've known them before or isn't that weird that that happens. Yeah. Kind of it's kind of hard to explain. I don't know that I'm doing the best job at explaining it. Erica: like in a spiritual way. So what I mean by that is I feel like, and I don't know if you've ever gotten this feeling, but I feel like there are people that have come into my lives, maybe they're there, they're they're there still, maybe they're not, where I feel almost like an instant connection where like maybe I've known them before. Or isn't that weird? It is. It's just a really kind of it's kind of hard to explain. I don't know that I'm doing the best job at explaining it. Jenn: But I think that that often will make it easier to sort of help them along through that. but I am naturally not the best when it comes to that. And it's weird because I am a good nurturer when it comes to my kids. Same. and I don't know what the like I don't know what the Erica: But I think that that often will make it easier to sort of help them along through that. but I am naturally not the best when it comes to that. And it's weird because I am a good nurturer when it comes to my kids. and I don't know what the like I don't know what the discrepancy is between the two. I feel like what with my kids, I touch and hold them. And I don't I'm not a touch hold right. Neither of us is. No. Jen and I we don't like I love I love when if a friend wants to hug me, that's fine. Yes. Yeah. I But we're not super touchy feely people. So and so it's one of those like, you know, if if somebody's going through a hard time, it's we're we're like they're they're there. Jenn: discrepancy is. Well be I feel like what mm with my kids I touch and hold them. And I don't I'm not a touch hold person. No. Jen and I we don't like I love I love when if friend wants to hug me, that's fine. But I'm not super touchy feely people. So And so it's one of those like, you know, if if somebody's going through a hard time it's like do they like they're they're there. Erica: You know, like Jenn: You know, like do they want this? Well, do they want that? Because they want that because I don't Well, I think that's maybe why we don't know what to do because well when I'm hurting, I like to be by myself. I need to internally process by myself. You almost have to like verify it to yourself and think for sometimes days or a week, a hundred percent. And I like to be by myself and I don't I don't want somebody there hugging me, coddling me. So maybe that's why we don't know how to handle that. Erica: Do they want this? Do they want right, exactly? Do they want that because I don't necessarily. That's maybe why. I mean, don't because well when I'm hurting, I like to be by myself. Right. To internally process You have to you almost have to like therapise yourself and figure out what exactly it is that's bothering you. Me too. Me too. I like to be by myself and I don't I don't want somebody there hugging me, coddling me. So maybe that's why we don't know how to handle that. Yeah. Jenn: we do have a friend that hugs and honestly when she does, I will say it's the best hug though. No, it is, and also like if nothing else, it makes me laugh. So at least it like helps kind of reset my brain. Yeah. Like in a half a second. Yeah. I honestly so I say I suck at this, like because truly like my heart Erica: we do have a friend that hugs and honestly when she does, I will say no, it is, and also like if nothing else, it makes me laugh. So at least it like helps kind of reset my brain for like a half a second, you know? I honestly so I say I suck at this, but because truly, like my heart. Jenn: is in the right place for them. Like I want to be there for them. I will do whatever they want me to do. If they want me to just sit there, we we're both service people. Correct. That's what it I think that's what it is. I'm like, I will sit there. Correct. So that's what I asked them. I have learned recently that I just come out and say, What do you need from me? How can I help you? And what you tell me is what I'm going to do. I need just direction. If you want me to sit there and cuddle you, I will. Erica: is in the right place for them. Like I want to be there for them. I will do whatever they want me to do. If they want me to just sit there. Well we're both we're both service people. Correct. That's what it I think that's what it is. It's like tell me what you need. Correct. So that's what I asked them. I learned recently that I just come out and say, what do you need for me? How can I help you? What you tell me is what I'm going to do. Yeah. I need just direction. If you want me to sit there and cuddle you I will. But I think it's hard for some people going through those types of things to necessarily like say what it is that they need. They it's hard. But they also never say the right things. I don't know what to say. I don't either. I'm not good at it. And I and then I hate to just say, I'm sorry that happened to you because I think that's like almost like it's insensitive or something. And I'm like, what can I say that Jenn: But I think it's hard for some people going through those types of things to necessarily like say what it is to me. They it's hard. I also never say the right things. I don't know what to say. I don't because when you're going through that hard over time, like what do you s honestly, like sometimes nothing is going to make it feel better. And I and then I hate to just say, I'm sorry that happened to you 'cause I feel like that's like almost like it's insensitive or something. And I'm like, what can I say that they know that I'm not just saying it because that's what I'm supposed to say? Erica: They know that I'm not just saying it because that's what I'm supposed to say. Right. What you might. It's almost like you're deeply know that I really truly want care and I want to be there for you. But how do you put that into a phrase? Right. It's almost like you're you you don't want it to come off as as some sort of like prescription. You know, like this is what people say, like, I'm sorry for your loss. Like Well, and your brain's not there. You're not you're not doing that. Right. But you are Jenn: What do I say so they almost like they to deeply know that I really truly want care and I want to be there for you, but how do you put that into a phrase? Right. That's not your y you don't want it to come off as as some sort of like prescription. Correct. Like, this is what people say, like, I'm sorry for your loss. Like Well, and your brain's not there. You're not you're not doing that. Right. But you are almost hypersensitive to the fact that it could come off. Erica: almost hypersensitive to the fact that it could come off that way. So you're not sure what to say. Right. Yes. Yes. I think that's and I sometimes I just get silent. And I hate that even more because I'm like, Yeah. Sorry, I don't mean to get silent. I just I just need to know what you need for me right now. Right. I love you. I want to be there for you. Yeah and I don't know what to say. I just I hate that I don't handle situations like that. And it's funny to know that Jenn and I are very opposite individuals. Yes. Yeah. Jenn: Way I'm not sure what to say. Right. Yes. Yes. And I hate and I sometimes I just get silent. And I hate that even more because I'm like, sorry, I don't mean to get silent. I just I just need to know what you need from me right now. Like I love you, I want to be there for you, and I don't know what to say. I just I hate that I don't handle situations like that. And it's funny to know that Jen and I are very opposite individuals, by the way. Pa like a a lot of things, even the stupid little things. Yeah. Erica: A lot of things. Even yeah. No, I mean you can say po like politics, all kinds of s things that are different. Yeah. Hundred education, everything. And even like the dumbest things. I mean alcohol, we're the like students yeah, yeah, yeah. and it's I'm surprised that we're I'm just learning this, that we're pretty much the same. So Well in that way. Basically if Jen and I are ever hurting, we're just never gonna talk to each other. Jenn: a hundred p education, everything. And even like the dumbest things. I mean alcohol where the like stupid things. Yeah. and it's I'm surprised that we're I'm just learning this that we're pretty much the same. So well in that way. Basically if Jen and I are ever hurting, we're just never gonna talk to each other. We're like, I know she's there. No, no. I know she's there. Sometimes when we've talked we're stuck, yeah. I mean, most of the most of the time it's us shouting into the phone. Erica: No, no, no. There have been plenty of times when we've talked through stuff where either one of us is going through it. I mean, most of most of the time it's us shouting into the phone Jenn: boy. I'm just saying, right? I mean referring to the phone and then we're like, okay, I'm done. But I think also that's a lot of it just is us meeting to vents. Going back to their your place in your from last week from Erica: about something that has happened. I'm just saying, right? I mean, I'm just referring to in general. Like we're shouting into the phone and then we're like, Okay, I'm done. But I think And that's that's a lot of it just is us needing to vent. Going back to their your place in your from last week from Jenn: your place and a person's life, I there's you don't have to say anything and I are there's oftentimes Erica: your place in a person's life. I there's you don't have to say anything and I there's oftentimes Jen will say something, it's just like you know what I mean. I'm like, you don't even have to say that because I know where you are, I know what you mean. Right. I know where basically all my friends what their intentions are. Right. And I just our intentions are never going to be malice. And if they are, it's it's it's on accident. We're gonna apologize. We're gonna get through it and figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Jenn: Jen will say something and she's You know what I mean? I'm like, You don't even have to say that because I know where you are, I know what you mean. I know where basically all my friends where their intentions are. Right. And I do know their intentions are never gonna be malice. No. Yeah. It's it's on accident. We're gonna apologize for a hundred percent. a hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent. I do I yeah. But going back to people that Erica: I do. I yeah. But going back to people that you meet and you're like you just feel like instantly you knew. I have a girlfriend that is where I live and we just kept bumping into each other at parties and we're just like we just need to hang out because it would it was like instant like we just need to be moths to the to a flame. Yeah. And my husband grew up with her and went to high school with her, but we would just see each other at casual parties. It's really cool. Jenn: you meet and you're like you just feel like instantly you knew them forever. I have a girlfriend that lives where I live and we just kept bumping into each other at parties and we're just like we just need to hang out because it would it was like instant like we just need to be to a flame it was weird. And my husband grew up with her and went to high school with her but and we would just see each other at casual parties. It's really cool when you experience that 'cause I definitely think I think it's a thing. I don't I can't explain what it what it is. Erica: when you experience that, because I definitely think I think it's a thing. I don't I can't explain what it what it is. Jenn: you know, whether it's some sort of like divine, you know, thing or if it's just true happenstance. But yeah, I have several of those friendships, connections, whatever. And it's it's cool to see it evolve too. You know. I do laugh because a lot of my friends are the complete opposite of me. Yeah. Erica: you know, whether it's some sort of like divine, you know, thing or if it's just true happenstance. But yeah, I have several of those friendships, connections, whatever. And it's it's cool to see it evolve too, you know. I do laugh because a lot of my friends are the complete opposite of me. Yeah. Jenn: I don't know why I'm attracted to that, but I am. Well Erica: I don't know why I'm attracted to that, but I am. Well I mean yes, I I would like you so what do you mean like what do you mean? Like I have one girlfriend that she hates every city that I love. Okay. Like literally we're the opposite in so much, like in style. But you have to have Jenn: Yes. I have one girlfriend, like we So what you mean like what do you mean? Like I have one girlfriend that she hates every city that I love. Okay. Like literally we're the opposite in so much, like in styles, everything. Erica: a commonality. There's no way that you we love breweries. Okay. No, we no, we raise our kids together. We do life together. Yeah. And we but I think what the where the piece is in that is we're okay being opposites. Jenn: Yeah, we love breweries. No, we no, we raise our kids together. We we do life together. And we but I think what the where the piece is in that is we're okay being opposites. Erica: Yeah. That's where the piece is. Like we don't need to thrive off of being the same. gosh. Yeah. Like we're okay hating like I'm not I love it. Well and how boring traveling, I love it all. But yeah, how boring Jenn: That's where the piece is. Like we don't need a thrive off of being the same. gosh. Yeah. Like we're okay hating like I'm not I love every if you're traveling, I love it all. But there are things I'm like Erica: would it be if you were the exact same as everybody else? I mean it's funny because back in high school, your best friend in you would be like myself in high school. We were the same two peas and a pod. And your daughter and her girlfriend right now are literally Jenn: same. Yeah. Well everybody else. I mean but it's funny because back in high school, your best friend in you would be like my best friend back in high school. We were literally the same. We'd finish each other's sentences. a hundred percent. And my daughter and her girlfriend right now are literally Erica: They're two peas in a pot. Right. And it's so funny that now I'm like, I'm just an acceptance of I don't need that. Yeah. I just need good people and good friends. Yeah. I don't need you to be the exact same as me. Jenn: two peas in a pod. And it's so funny that now I'm like I'm just an acceptance of I don't need that. Yeah. I just need good people and good friends. I don't need you to be the exact same as me. Erica: Right. And that's where it comes in, where I guess you do different things with different people. Yeah. Well, again, it's it's New York City. I'm just not gonna invite her to New York City. I'll go. I know. I do too. I am cannot wait. So excited. I know. Yeah. Jenn: And that's where it comes in where I guess you do different things with different people, you know? Like if I ever go to New York City, I'm just not gonna invite her because she hates New York City. I know. I love it. You're going in November? I'm going in December. I can't wait. I know. Yeah. I like that once a year trip up there. Just at like I just need like a little city fix. You know? I just need like a little bit of a hustle bustle. And then I can be like, okay, I've got. Erica: I like that once a year trip up there. Just like I just need like a little city fix. You know, I just need like a little bit of the hustle and bustle. And then I can be like, okay, I'm done. Jenn: It's the energy of like a football stadium. Yes. Do that. And you have to be on. You have got to be that thing turns me on. I am on the whole trip. I love it. But what I mean is like you also have to be like so vigilant when you're, you know, you've got Erica: It's the energy of like a football stadium. Yes. And you have but you and you have to be on. You have got to be on when you're in those cities. Ooh. But what I mean is like you also have to be like so vigilant when you're, you know, you've got to like be Jenn: making sure everything around you is safe and all of that. Yeah, well Erica: making sure everything around you is, you know, safe and all of that. yeah. We have I my aunt's best friend lives there and he kind of like walks the city with me. So I just followed him and me. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's good. It's good. But yeah. But I I just love it. The energy. Yes. When I go there, I'm like, I don't want to leave because liter I've never taken Adderall, but I'm like, this has to be what Adderall feels like. All the lights, all the things. Yeah. The people moving like you're sitting in Jenn: Yeah. We have I my aunt's best friend lives there and he kind of like walks the city with me. So I just follow him and trust him. Yeah. But the yeah. But I I just love it. The energy. When I go there, I'm like, I don't want to leave because it is liter I've never taken Adderall, but I'm like, this has to be what Adderall feels like. All the lights, all the things. And well, and the people moving, like you're sitting at a like when you're in Florida and you're sitting at a restaurant, it's very like unless you have girls like us that are there. Erica: Like when you're in Florida and you're sitting at a restaurant, it's very like Yeah. Girls like us that are there. It's let's let's talk about what that movement was for people listening. It's just chill and kind of quiet. Yeah. But in New York, you hear the conversations, you feel the energy. Yeah. It's like people are people are naturally a little bit louder. Yeah. Hustle and bustle. Right. Listen, there is no hustle and bustle in four. I don't know. Show not not where we are. Not where we are. Nope. Jenn: It's very talking about what that movement was. This movement. It's just chill and kinda quiet. But in New York you hear the conversations, you feel the energy. It's like people are chattering in the background. a hundred percent. And there's a lot of moving parts. It's like the hustle and bustle. Listen, there is no hustle and bustle info. I don't know if you've driven on our roads, but No, Erica: No, I I get what you're saying. And when I when I went up in October, gosh, this was like Jenn: I I get what you're saying. And when when I went up in October, gosh, this was like Erica: two or three years ago, with my mom, like I got there, I don't know, maybe four hours before. Uh-huh. Yeah. Like four hours before she got there. and I went to my room, changed really quick, and just started like walking around and sat, had a coffee. I mean, it was just like Jenn: two or three years ago with my mom. Like I got there, I don't know, maybe four hours before. Are you talking about New York still? Uh-huh. Okay, go ahead. Like four hours before she got there. and I went to my room, changed really quick and just started like walking around and sat, had a coffee. I mean it was just like I don't know. There was something magical about it just walking around and seeing all the things and it's just so much fun. I love it. Erica: I don't know. There was something magical about it just walking around and seeing all the things and it's just so much fun. I love it. I love it. But only for a short amount of time. I have told myself I thought I could short amount of time. Well, like being up there, like being there for like a weekend or something. I well, I tell myself I could live there for a year and then Jenn: I But only for a short amount of time. I have told myself I couldn't. What do mean? What's a short amount of time? Like being up there. Like being there for a weekend. I I tell myself could live there for a year. No You wonder what I wanted to do is the last time I was there, I was like, Danny, we need to go for a month there in the summer. Well you knew I was on the month kick t thing for a while. I was like I could go to New York. So I don't know if I could do it anymore just because I feel like my social battery would run out really fast. Yeah. But I have Erica: I was Danny, we need to go for a month there in the summer. ooh. You knew I was when the month came. you were. You yeah. I don't I don't know. I don't know if I could do it anymore just because I feel like my social battery would run out really fast. But I have had those thoughts before. I'm like, it would be so nice to have, you know, an extended period of time just to see what it's like. But also, there's a lot of other places I want to travel. Jenn: those thoughts before I'm like it would be so nice to have, you know, an extended period of time just to see what it's like. Mm-hmm. But also there's a lot of other when our kids are old and we could just I mean venture off. I think I want to Erica: I mean, I don't know. I think I want a mountain house when my kids are, you know, older and I'm house up north. I want to be with my family. Mm-hmm. I wanna be back there. I just want like Ooh, if we all just if we all get houses in different spots. Great idea. Yes. I'll get a mountain house. You'll get one in the northeast. We've already got one in like Georgia area. Both our houses in Florida. Right. We've got one in like the Georgia area that we can Jenn: I do want a lake house up north. I want to be with my family. I wanna be back there. I just want like a summer house up there. Such a great idea. Damn, our husband's better kick up the You'll get one in the northeast. Mm-hmm. We've already got one in like Georgia area. Well we have both our houses in Florida. Right. We've got one in like the Georgia we can visit. Key West, we don't want a house. We can visit there for a week. Yeah. So you get the mountain house. Erica: There for a week. We're good there. It's too hot. You get the mountain house. You know I'm a lizard in Keep West. I was like, my gosh. I just melt down there. I do. I just I do. I lean in. I mean, I survive, but it I melt. I'll get the lake house. Okay. No, we already have a lake house in Georgia. I Jenn: She's sus chent. You know I'm a lizard in Key West. I was like Midsummer, I was like, yes. Love it. I mean I survived, but it melt. I'll get the lake house. Okay. Where? In Georgia, I Who? but up north's different. It's not like up north. Erica: but up north's different. Okay. It's not like up north. Okay. Jenn: No. I'm sorry. I love Georgia, but it's not the northeast. I'm I just yeah, that's all we need. We just need to Friend house hop around. That's a really good idea. You know what I love more than anything on vacation is people watching. Hours. Let me tell you. This weekend there was some people watching. Erica: No. I love Georgia because the northeast. I'm I just yeah, that's all we need. We just need to friend house hop around. That's a really good thing. Yeah. You know what I love more than anything on vacation is people watching. let me tell you. This weekend there was some people watching. Jenn: But but I do not talk about the wedding party. I'm talking about in general, the place that we stayed. Yeah. Erica: And I'm not talking about the wedding party. I'm talking about in general, the place that we stayed. Yeah. Wow. It's more dangerous in the cooler weather people watching because I could just literally sit there for hours. yeah. Do you remember last year when we were at the birthday in Tampa? Yes. We were supposed to leave on Sunday. Yes. And I found a seat. Jenn: It's more dangerous in the cooler weather people watching because I could just literally sit there for hours. yeah. Do you remember last year when we were at the birthday in Tampa? Yes. We were supposed to leave on Sunday. And I found a seat. With live music. In the heat. In the heat. I was fine. I was fine, Jen. You weren't. I found my ass a seat. I wasn't hung over either. I was We were not hung over. I I found a seat, found live music, and I found ice cold beer and I was good. I sat there. I picked my other lizard friends. We sat there. Then what did I do? I literally got up and went into the shade away from you. I was like sitting by myself. I was like, I can't do this. Jen moved Erica: With live music. In the heat. In the heat in the direct sun. I was not. I found my ass and I wasn't hungover either. I was fine. I was a seat, found live music and I found ice cold beer and I was good. I was like I was like, I can't do this. I ha I the wizard friends and sat there. And what did I do? I literally got up and I moved into the shade away from you. I was like sitting by myself 'cause I was like, I can't do this. Jenn: his I look over and Jen's sitting in the shade Erica: I'm by myself Jenn: I'm like Get over here She's like no we need to go. I'm like, I don't wanna go Erica: in the shade. I'm like, I don't care. Get over here. She's like, no, we need to go. I'm like, I don't want to just you you hear the live music. That's what does it for me. Yeah. Any music. Because even at my birthday the night before, I just stopped drinking for hours. At whose birthday? The and the one in Tampa last year. right. The night before we went to like a private club. Uh-huh. And it was very small. Yeah. It is intimate. It was not like the VIP section. And we they had great Jenn: just you you hear the live music. And that's what does it for me. Or any music. 'Cause even at her birthday the night before, I just stopped drinking for hours. I the and the one in Tampa last year. right. The night before we went to like a private club and it was very small and it is intimate and we got like the VIP section and we they had great Erica: what, two thousand yeah, it was great. I just stopped drinking when I got there because I was having such a great time for hours. I was dancing. I was doing my moves. Jenn: What, two thousand music? I just stopped drinking when I got there because I was having such a great time for hours. I was dancing. I was doing my moves. Erica: Yeah. Jenn: You know, I was moving and grooving. I think that's why we both and you went back to the hotel room. I did. I yeah. Yeah, you were done. I was done. And that's fine. But we both that's where we were great the next day. Yeah. I love that. Waking up the next day and feeling great. There is a happy medium. Yes. And in my old age, I love to day drink. I like to have a nice freaking dinner. Stop drinking. Erica: You know, I was moving in group and I think that's why we both and you went back to the hotel room. I did 'cause I yeah. Yeah, you were done. I was done. Fine. But we both that's where we were great the next day. Yeah. I love that. Waking up the next day and feeling great. There is a happy medium. Yes. And in my old age, I love to day drink. I like to have a nice freaking dinner. Stop drinking Yes. That's my sweet spot. Yep. Because I wake up too early. Even when I'm not trying to, I still wake up early. I love waking up, especially when you're on vacation and going for a walk. I just yeah. Yeah. No, I do too. Wait, let me tell you this last okay. Yeah, but yeah, We were on vacation last April Jenn: That's my sweet spot. I don't wake up too early. Even when I'm not but I love waking up, especially when you're on vacation and going for a walk. I just do. Yeah. Wait, let me tell you this last story before we wrap up. We were on vacation last April. And Jen and I know that we both like to get up and go walk. So I go just know you're up. Yeah. So we sent a group Erica: and Jen and I know that we both like to get up and go walk. So I just know you're up. Yeah. So we sent a group. Jenn: text to the girls and we're like, hey, we're going for a walk. Well they're like, we'll be down. So we're Jen and I waiting. We're waiting to there comes down. And we waited in 45 minutes. So we waited. So we get on the beach to walk. we walked legitimately ten minutes, and one of the girlfriends, like, Okay. She was like, Okay, we ready Erica: Text to the girls and we're like, hey, we're going for a walk. But they're like, we'll be down. So we're Jen and I waiting and we're waiting to there comes down. I think we waited any 45 minutes. So we waited to we get on the beach to walk. we walked legitimately 10 minutes and one of the girlfriends like not even. Not even. She was like, Okay, are we ready to go back? No, I got a call. no. but we were on, and the girl was walking, and she's like, Okay, I'm done. And it we walked like five minutes. It was like this. I was like, when Jen turned and looked at me the face that she does cracks me up every time because I'm like, this is hysterical. Because we didn't Erica and Jenn: but we were on and the girl was walking and she was like, Okay, I'm done. And it Jen's face five minutes, it was like this. I was like when Jen turned and looked at me, that face that she does cracks me up every time because I'm like, this is hysterical. Because we didn't Erica: walk. Erica and Jenn: James like this was not a walk. I wasn't here to collect seashells. Why did I put on like leggings and do all the things? Erica: Why did I put on like leggings and do all the things to go I I mean, I don't even think we made it point one mile. No, we didn't. We made it to the point we turned around. It's like we're done. Like, cool. that was that was exercise today. Great. Now we can go sit under the Now we can go sit. Yeah. I know. Erica and Jenn: No, we didn't. We made it to the point we turned around and it was like, We're done. It's like cool. that's another exercise today. Great. Now we can go sit in a lounge chair. Now we can go sit. Yeah. That's the other thing. I like to try Erica: That's the other thing. I like to try to get some kind of exercise. I'm not the exercise friend on a vacation. No. But I do like to get a little bit of movement if we're doing activities like that. You know? Yeah. I get it. If I'm gonna have something to drink Erica and Jenn: On a vacation. No. But I do like to get a little bit of movement if we're doing activities in the morning. Yes. You know. Yeah. I get it. I'm gonna have something to Erica: later, I would like to try to do some sort of activity just to try to get older, we move my body. Wanna? Let's go. Erica and Jenn: Just think of activity. When we get older, we can just put swim caps on and do swimming in the pool. Erica: All right. Well we got through our notes. I didn't even have to look. Really? Episode five. Episode five. We did it, girlfriend. We made it. Proud of us. Same zies. Erica and Jenn: All right, on today's notes. I didn't even have to look. Episode five. Episode five. We did it, girlfriend. We made it. Proud of us. Same z's. All right. We'll see you next week. All right. Erica: All right, we'll see you next week. All right, bye. Erica and Jenn: Bye. Bye.