Latest / A Time to Sharpen / Bread upon the Waters
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- 0:05Is there anything worse than a dull blade?
- 0:08Well yeah, lots of things. I guess poverty War Baywatch,
- 0:14seriously though, the dough blade is bad.
- 0:16It's unusable and worse, you're more likely to cut yourself with
- 0:20it, then your juicy ribeye steak.
- 0:23Let's face it knives. Need sharpening from Whetstone,
- 0:27Boys, Ranch, in Mountain View, Missouri, Comes a time to
- 0:31sharpen a Bi weekly podcast that examines how we can all be
- 0:35better versions of ourselves better parents, better teachers.
- 0:39Better counselors better people. Hello, welcome to the Whetstone
- 0:47Boys. Ranch podcast called a time to
- 0:50sharpen. This is our inaugural episode.
- 0:54Although Brandon says it differently, I said inaugural
- 0:58inaugural. It's just so so hard to say
- 1:01girl. So you can say it however you
- 1:03want but it's the first one it's the inaugural or the inaugural
- 1:07episode and before we get into our topic for the day we wanted
- 1:13to be We introduce ourselves. My name is Axel, The Meta.
- 1:18And I am the one of the co-founders along with Brandon
- 1:22Maxwell, and Jeremy Thompson, who's our executive director.
- 1:26I have been the Headmaster of the academy here at Whetstone
- 1:30for 10 years. We opened in 2011 and I am
- 1:34currently working more on Communications with our
- 1:38stakeholders parents, donors, potential employees, things like
- 1:42that. Brandon Yeah, as Axl said I am
- 1:47Brandon Maxwell. And my first role here, our
- 1:51first roll, my wife and I we were the original House parents
- 1:55and we were there for a couple years before moving into a site
- 1:58director position and now I'm currently director of
- 2:02development. So all things fundraising and
- 2:05sustainability and we all wear a bunch of different hats but
- 2:08that's my main hat right now. And for those of you that maybe
- 2:13don't know. What a whetstone is or how to
- 2:16spell Whetstone. So do you say Whetstone or
- 2:19Whetstone? Whe T?
- 2:23So the idea behind Whetstone Boys, Ranch, the name was really
- 2:27from the founding verse proverbs 27:17 is iron, sharpens iron one
- 2:32man, sharpens. Another and so there's just a
- 2:35lot of power in that short, little verse of just how God
- 2:38designed it for us to need relationships and that's kind of
- 2:41a the idea behind White Stone and everything.
- 2:44Thing that we do here are our mission is to sharpen the
- 2:47character of young men and we just know that we all need good
- 2:50men in our lives and our boys are struggling.
- 2:53And a lot of them have not had good men in their lives.
- 2:56So we try to create an environment here on campus to
- 2:59where they get that relational element, they get that
- 3:02sharpening in the right measure to, hopefully be better and have
- 3:08more tools when they go home. And when we say men, we also
- 3:11mean women. Okay let's just get right out
- 3:13there now, I mean, We may sometimes use the broader term
- 3:16to describe Humanity, but we are talking about men, we are having
- 3:21said that, we are a boy's Ranch. So we do not currently serve
- 3:24girls. That may be a part of our
- 3:26future, we don't know. But there are some things that
- 3:28are unique to working with young men, that that we're going to be
- 3:31talking about. But we also feel that it applies
- 3:34to teenage girls as well, right? And I would just add that
- 3:40conflict is a part of life and we're going to talk talk about
- 3:45conflict that we go through here at the ranch conflict that they
- 3:48maybe we've experienced in our own lives.
- 3:51And we're going to, we're going to process that we're going to
- 3:53give you some tools for how to deal with that.
- 3:55But if you're feeling right now that you just need to send your
- 3:58son away because there's just too much conflict in the home.
- 4:02I would just say just put that on pause for a sec.
- 4:04Let's have a conversation. Let's listen, let's figure out
- 4:07some other ways to deal with some.
- 4:09Some some problems you may be having, we're here as a resource
- 4:13and we currently serve. We're getting our 10th boy next
- 4:17week. That's not capacity.
- 4:19We have room for a few more, but but there are places like this
- 4:23around the country, but there are limited spots.
- 4:25So we want to have a share. What we've learned so families
- 4:30that are struggling, don't have to send their boy here.
- 4:32Yeah, and that's certainly one element to this podcast.
- 4:34Specifically, we want to be a resource as Axl said, but you
- 4:38know, thinking about last year was our 10-year anniversary,
- 4:41which is a big milestone for us and we've had Probably over 100
- 4:45families that we've served here. Probably 70 employees.
- 4:49And so just thinking back about that time frame and just the
- 4:56amount of things in the people that we work with on a regular
- 4:58basis. And the things that we've
- 5:00learned through working with that amount of families, we want
- 5:04to share some of those stories and share some of those
- 5:07hardships in the stories that we've learned through that.
- 5:11So it won't all be about teens and parents.
- 5:14Uh, Sara Lee. We're still trying to figure out
- 5:16exactly what the podcast is all going to incorporate.
- 5:20They'll be some structure to did.
- 5:23I mention, who is called the time to sharpen?
- 5:25I don't know if you discount may have left that out but there you
- 5:27go. It's we decided from that stone
- 5:30boys reddish a time to sharpen. So this is something that we've
- 5:33wanted to do for a long time. It's probably been talking about
- 5:36it for over a year and we're finally able to just say you
- 5:39know what, let's just do it. Let's just get out there and do
- 5:41the things get the inaugural one.
- 5:44Out and just tell people a little bit about what to expect
- 5:48and so it'll be a little bit of a journey that you guys can take
- 5:51with us because we don't know exactly what to expect
- 5:54ourselves. So saddle up partner.
- 5:56So yes, you can expect some Dumb and Dumber movie quotes.
- 6:00Some Nacho Libre and many more but so I'm sorry.
- 6:05If you don't like Stupid humor, you may want to just go ahead
- 6:07and take it out from here on out but hopefully not.
- 6:10Hopefully, hang in there. We'll get some good stuff.
- 6:13Yes, it'll be. It'll be something.
- 6:14Hope you guys appreciate in value and we want to hear from
- 6:18you to let us know as we get going.
- 6:20If there's something specific you want us to speak on and
- 6:23we'll see if we can address it. So thank you.
- 6:26Okay. Let's do it.
- 6:29King Solomon said that if we cast our bread upon the waters,
- 6:33we will find it after many days, something tells me he wasn't
- 6:37extolling. The virtues of soggy toast.
- 6:40Although a good piece of Sopwith a beefy stew is one of life's
- 6:43greatest pleasures. That a nice MLT to quote,
- 6:47Miracle Max from The Princess Bride mutton.
- 6:49Lettuce and tomato sandwich with a mutton is nice and lean and
- 6:52the tomatoes are ripe. No, I'm pretty sure bread upon
- 6:56the waters is a metaphor, but what does it mean?
- 7:00And how can we apply it to working with struggling
- 7:02teenagers on this inaugural podcast?
- 7:05We examine bread cast upon the waters.
- 7:07It may not sound all that appetizing, but we're offering
- 7:10food for the Mind, something to chew on, even if you feel like
- 7:14all your teeth, Teeth have been kicked out.
- 7:20Cast your bread upon the waters for.
- 7:21You will find it after many days, that's from Ecclesiastes
- 7:2611:1 and we're going to talk about that a little bit today
- 7:31and relation to working with with teenagers specifically
- 7:36struggling young, boys. And that's what we're going to
- 7:38do. With each podcast, we're going
- 7:40to have a little short reflection on a Bible verse and
- 7:42how it applies to Parenting and counseling and teaching.
- 7:45And then at the end have a Little higher level literature
- 7:50discussion so I will state that you brought me in for ya, the
- 7:54higher level. Yeah.
- 7:55Richer discussion day, tuned for that, you'll want to hang around
- 7:59because we talked about a lot of literature around here at the
- 8:02ranch as a part of the schooling and as a part of the therapy
- 8:06because we can bring in poems and, and movies and theater, and
- 8:09things of that nature. But let's start with this first
- 8:12cast. Your bread upon the waters.
- 8:15Brandon, what do you? What does that mean to you in
- 8:16relation to working with young men?
- 8:18N. Well the story that pops into my
- 8:24mind. When I hear bread upon the
- 8:26waters actually happened about 20 years ago.
- 8:30There was Laura and I think I've heard this no you have not heard
- 8:34this one before and it's I think it's fitting but we were on a
- 8:39trip we'd actually got done working at a group home for a
- 8:42year. It's actually where I met my
- 8:44wife, Laura and following that trip.
- 8:46We went with some friends too. Like pow on this house, boating
- 8:51trip. And it was pretty, pretty
- 8:52incredible trip. But I just remember we pulled
- 8:56into this one, Marina to get some gas.
- 8:58And I had a sandwich that was on the seat that had gotten wet and
- 9:03so it was basically soggy bread uneatable, no bueno, no bueno.
- 9:09And so we pull into this Marina, we get out, we tie the boat up
- 9:12and we're getting gas. And there's a probably 15 or 20
- 9:16carp just kind of hanging around each Bay because, you know,
- 9:20people throw food to these things.
- 9:22Creep me out. Oh yeah.
- 9:23They're they're not people will just see a little mouse coming
- 9:27up. Swallowing your little.
- 9:29Yeah, it's like a little bit suckerfish, but but anyway.
- 9:31So I throw my sandwich, I throw a piece of my sandwich into the
- 9:37middle of this Bay where they There's no boat and there was 20
- 9:40fish that we could see. And then once I threw my
- 9:42sandwich in a little piece of it, there was like all of a
- 9:46sudden there was about 100 fish and they were just all vying for
- 9:49this like nasty soggy toast and bread.
- 9:53So then I had the rest of my sandwich, I just threw the whole
- 9:55piece in there. And like, literally within
- 9:58seconds there were hundreds of carp off right there.
- 10:02And they were just like all vying for this nasty, soggy
- 10:05piece of toast. And then my buddy, Mike It was
- 10:09with us, he's like, dude, I dare you to do a cannonball right in
- 10:11the middle of this Garb. And so obviously I trying to
- 10:16impress my wife further, I Run and Jump Right In the back of
- 10:20the car, I actually did it. So and then the carp just have a
- 10:24whole I could feel about you. Now I can feel about yeah, 50
- 10:27carp, trying to swim between my legs and get out of there.
- 10:31So, so that's what I thought of Axl, I thought of soggy toes.
- 10:37Did not see that coming. Yeah.
- 10:39So, what did you think of? Um, well, I the first person
- 10:46that shared that verse with me, I remember was a guy named Doug,
- 10:49Kilgore, who was a teacher at Central Arkansas Christian in.
- 10:54Little Rock, which is the first school I taught at.
- 10:57And I remember him quoting, that verse and, and kind of being
- 11:01funny with it and he's, like, cast your bread upon the waters
- 11:03and when it and when it comes back, it will be soggy.
- 11:07And I was like Okay, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take
- 11:10away from that and the more I reflected on it, like, over the
- 11:14years. And the more I kind of that
- 11:17verse would come up. I started to, I started to think
- 11:20how it meant that wisdom does not go forth into a void, right?
- 11:28When you say something wise or when you do something
- 11:30meaningful, it may seem that in the moment, it doesn't achieve
- 11:35its purpose or more often, it doesn't achieve your purpose.
- 11:39Right. And so, much of what we do here
- 11:41at the ranch is about speaking truth in love and being
- 11:46consistent and being a voice of reason, even when the results
- 11:50are not apparent. And it's all about the long
- 11:53game, right? And planting seeds, casting the
- 11:59bread upon the waters and not expecting immediate results.
- 12:02Because, I mean, as a parent, especially when you have little
- 12:05kids, it's like your word goes, right.
- 12:09Arguing about the sippy cup. Are you arguing about the who
- 12:13gets the banana? Who gives you like?
- 12:15No one gets the banana. Yeah, shut it down.
- 12:17Shut it. And that works.
- 12:19Until they get to be, you know, he 789, right?
- 12:22You guys are change your mind a little bit and parenting Styles,
- 12:25right? Yeah.
- 12:27But that doesn't mean you don't keep putting it out there.
- 12:31Sharing the wisdom that you've learned.
- 12:32You just don't expect them to absorb it immediately, right?
- 12:35Yeah, going back to, there's probably a lot of analogies.
- 12:38The story that I shared as far as, you know, hundreds of fish
- 12:43Vine for for one little piece of bread, but like you said, a lot
- 12:49of times, you know, there's a lot of times, it feels like you
- 12:53don't quite have enough or what it takes to give these boys,
- 12:58what they need all the time because you don't see
- 13:01necessarily the results right away with the type of work that
- 13:05we do. And so thinking about just the
- 13:08The need is so great, you know, there's hundreds of fish right
- 13:11there. There's one little piece of
- 13:12bread and they're all vying for the same thing, and sometimes we
- 13:16just feel as staff almost like we're just being ripped and so
- 13:19many different directions because of just the nature of
- 13:24what we do when we deal with loss and hurt and frustration
- 13:27and all the, you know, the trauma that a lot of our boys
- 13:31and families are working through.
- 13:34It's hard to know what the answers are, and it's hard to
- 13:37feel like sometimes you Are having the impact that you want.
- 13:41And so, when you think about this idea of bread upon the
- 13:45waters, you do feel like soggy toast at the end of the day and
- 13:50you're not real. You don't feel Strong and like
- 13:55that. You're doing what you need to be
- 13:56doing so often we feel that way. Yeah, I think that's a very
- 14:01common experience for teachers counselors parents to just at
- 14:05the end of the day feel drained and just helpless, you know,
- 14:10like that piece of toast that you're talking about we got
- 14:15another gentleman used to work here at the ranch.
- 14:18One of the first employees is name was, Mike, Heston and still
- 14:22a mentor of mine. Someone I mean, I thought I was
- 14:24a regular basis, retired Minister but he said something
- 14:28early. In those early years to me, that
- 14:30that really stock about how we are in the business of speaking
- 14:34and sharing Frozen words, words that in the moment, when a young
- 14:40person hears them seem out, of touch out of date.
- 14:44Not cool. You know, on applicable
- 14:46irrelevant and they just kind of write it off as being.
- 14:49Oh, that's just the older generation or that's just mr.
- 14:52Fuddy-duddy. But as they get older and as
- 14:55their heart thaws and as they become more capable, actually
- 15:00intellectually to think about abstract things and to apply
- 15:04wisdom to their lives. Those words will will melt the
- 15:10kind of sink down into their soul.
- 15:12And that's, but for me, that's been a very helpful visual
- 15:14image. When when I feel like, I'm just
- 15:17wasting my time, spinning, my wheels.
- 15:20Yeah, I mean, how many times have we had boys?
- 15:24Families call when especially boys, when they are in a tight
- 15:28spot and they are not doing well or they're just struggling, they
- 15:35they call us. I mean, I can't remember how
- 15:38many I mean, there's countless times between all the staff here
- 15:41that somebody has reached out that the next graduate or
- 15:44somebody who's been here a resident and they maybe did not
- 15:49those. Those words may be that they
- 15:51heard here ring true or two years down the line because
- 15:54Because time has elapsed, they become more mature, they have
- 15:57more experience. And like you said, it's become
- 16:01unfrozen because they have just simply had more life experience
- 16:05and I think that's how God works through these situations.
- 16:09And you know, the Bible says his word does not return void, and
- 16:12that's something we've just talked about a lot with our
- 16:14staff because we don't see sometimes the fruit we want in
- 16:19the time of boys here, but that doesn't mean we don't show up
- 16:22and keep speaking the truth. To these boys because we don't
- 16:26know it's not our job. You know.
- 16:28It's like God's power is made perfect in our weakness.
- 16:32You know, we're week is soggy toast going back to the analogy.
- 16:37That's where God steps in. That's where his word is made,
- 16:40perfect, and the power and his word, because it's not us.
- 16:44It's him providing. Yeah.
- 16:47The water of those seeds. Yeah, it's his best work is
- 16:50sometimes done on our worst days.
- 16:53Because like, exactly what you're saying is that when we
- 16:55empty ourselves, when we make ourselves clay, when we humble
- 16:58ourselves and realize that we really don't have a lot of
- 17:01wisdom. Ultimately, if we're just
- 17:03sharing man's Wisdom, then we're wasting our time.
- 17:07And that's not to say that we don't feel equipped or that we
- 17:10don't feel like we're qualified to do what we do.
- 17:14There's a lot of good stuff that happens on a daily basis and we
- 17:17do see fruit. Otherwise we wouldn't have stuck
- 17:19with this for however many years.
- 17:21I mean, for me, it's Five years and teaching for you.
- 17:24It's almost 20 years and youth ministry, and volunteer work and
- 17:29things of that nature, right? And just from the beginning,
- 17:32roots of what stone. So, and that's kind of,
- 17:35especially the Whetstone story is just like if we've done
- 17:39anything, it's just, we've shown up.
- 17:42Yeah, day in and day out, even when we maybe didn't want to may
- 17:45be, when we didn't think, we even would have a job to show up
- 17:48to, or a ranch to show up to. We got hit by a tornado that
- 17:52Shut us down for three months, and 2015 and we didn't know the
- 17:57outcome. We didn't have the answers.
- 17:58We didn't have the funding, and I know so many questions there.
- 18:02And, but we just for whatever reason, we just kept showing up.
- 18:06And, and by the same token, God kept showing up and God has
- 18:10shown up in so many ways along that journey.
- 18:13And so, it's just a humbling place that I think God wants us
- 18:19to be in a point of just complete Reliance on.
- 18:22Him to make things happen. If so that's kind of how the
- 18:27story of what's known as been this fall.
- 18:29Yeah. Amen.
- 18:32Okay we're going to we're going to transition.
- 18:35All right into we're not going to Pivot.
- 18:38No. Because you know like that weird
- 18:40kid. It's overused.
- 18:41It's too many you wait. Now that we've mentioned it you
- 18:45may have already noticed this but from now on you're just
- 18:47going to hear the word pivot over and over and I can you not
- 18:50say pivot pivot pivot pivot. Why does everyone pivoting all
- 18:53the time? We're going to transition into a
- 18:56literature discussion. The title of the poem that we're
- 18:59going to be discussing. His called complain and Jack and
- 19:03it's by the great Shel. Silverstein nice complaining,
- 19:08Jack this morning, my old Jack-in-the-Box popped out and
- 19:13wouldn't get back in the box. He cried hey there's a tack in
- 19:16the box and it's cutting me through.
- 19:18And through there also is a crack in the box and I never
- 19:22find a snack in the box and sometimes I hear a quack in the
- 19:26Box because it duck lives in here to complain complain.
- 19:30In is all he did. I finally had to close the lid.
- 19:36Complaining Jack by Shel Silverstein.
- 19:39So little bible a little literature to discuss to chew on
- 19:46here. Yes, chew on nuggets.
- 19:48Well I'll tell you what. I thought or what came to my
- 19:52mind is the last line. Complain, complain is all he did
- 19:58Axl. Why don't you talk a little bit?
- 19:59You've been doing this for years with the boys in Chapel for
- 20:03Friday's talk, a little bit about just, why do we do
- 20:07gratitudes? Talk about how we do that and
- 20:10like maybe living with the stickers and talk about why
- 20:15that's important. Yeah, first off, I got a
- 20:17compliment you on your answering.
- 20:18My question with a question back to me, so good job there.
- 20:21I've learned from the best. You can think.
- 20:24Well, I give all I got my off-the-cuff answer.
- 20:28Yeah, we do a thing called gratitudes to change our
- 20:32attitude in Chapel once a, once every other week or so.
- 20:38And the idea is Is that if you can change your point of view,
- 20:42your Paradigm for your circumstances and you can just
- 20:46think about your circumstances differently, then it will help
- 20:49you to cope with it. And it's just been proven over
- 20:52and over again through experience and actually through
- 20:53science and neurology. But that cultivating, that
- 20:56Spirit of gratitude has an impact on your health, your
- 21:00mental health, your physical health, social psychological
- 21:03health. And what we do is just say pick
- 21:06something. To describe that you're grateful
- 21:10for the pain that you're writing with the.
- 21:15But it's got to be like, personal mostly personal.
- 21:18Can't just because I'm grateful for are grateful for my dog.
- 21:23I'm going to people not things, people.
- 21:25Not things now later, or before? Yeah, yeah, people not things.
- 21:29Now, not later or before, and when I think about this
- 21:34Jack-in-the-Box, like getting up in the morning and having all of
- 21:37the things just kind of pop out, I would achieve that you have to
- 21:39get done and all of the things that you don't want to do.
- 21:44It's easy to get swamped by all of that stuff coming at you.
- 21:48So if you can take a moment and reflect on the good things in
- 21:51your life, not to Silver Line, everything because the boys are
- 21:54not going to respond to that. It's we're not just trying to
- 21:57turn lemons into lemonade. So it's that's a real trite way
- 22:00of looking at it and that's going to be counterproductive.
- 22:04But if you can just end in the middle of all of the bad stuff,
- 22:08that's In to still be able to sit down and say you know not
- 22:13everything is bad, you know? Right.
- 22:15I heard a quote just yesterday said even if we're not ready for
- 22:20the day, the night can't last forever.
- 22:24Hmm. Even if we're not ready for the
- 22:27day, the night, can't last forever.
- 22:29And that was I those just kind of blew me away that thought, is
- 22:32that good. Things are going to happen
- 22:34whether you want them to or not. Hope hope in the end the same
- 22:37way that bad things are going to happen.
- 22:38Open whether you don't want them to or not.
- 22:42Yeah, I think that the Hope element.
- 22:45There's is what I thought about her and with gratitudes, I think
- 22:48is the goal in some of that, is to give our boys a little bit of
- 22:54Ray of Hope. They, I think we're all been to
- 22:57think about more negative about ourselves and our very
- 23:00self-critical. And then with some of our boys,
- 23:03with some of the loss and traumas that they have
- 23:05experienced that it's even more so that You know, Satan is in
- 23:10there ear day in and day out, telling them that, they're not
- 23:13good enough, that they deserve, whatever that loss for trauma,
- 23:17was that they experienced and they're not going to mount
- 23:20anything. There's just as barrage of
- 23:22negative self-talk, that they listen to.
- 23:24And I think it's very important for us to be able to kind of
- 23:31really curb those habits because it is a habit, you know, that
- 23:35it's that internal voice. You mean is just like springing
- 23:38out of them. Telling them that they stink.
- 23:41Yeah. Maybe they physically been in
- 23:43verbally been told that by parents or other people or
- 23:47people at school but most of the time I think it's just an
- 23:50internal voice and just says you know you're not good enough and
- 23:53you're not worthy and so part of that you know as it relates to
- 23:58complaint in Jack by Shel Silverstein and just the
- 24:01Gratitude and then just what we do with the ranch in the boys is
- 24:05to help them. See Hope through some of those
- 24:10behaviors to change some of those behaviors.
- 24:12And it's not just changing behaviors, but it's trying to
- 24:16change the Heart, Right? Is trying to change, not who
- 24:19they are. Because God God made them who
- 24:22they are, it's just helping them.
- 24:23See that they're worthy in Christ died for them and that
- 24:28price also has a child power to change, lives internal
- 24:31mechanisms Springs, all that stuff going inside.
- 24:35I think I just had it prevented Vivid image of that scene in elf
- 24:38when Just because you can't do anything else.
- 24:40He has to go and test the Jack in the boxes, you know, the
- 24:43thing I'm talking about, it needs winding it and then Dead
- 24:45undead up until they find one that he thinks is like not
- 24:53working and he goes to right and then it pops.
- 24:57Oh actually that's kind of an apt kind of metaphor of what
- 25:02happens to the boys. It's like there's regression.
- 25:05There's like I overcome this hurdle and wow, I got past that
- 25:08That one and yeah I didn't kill me and and then maybe I can nuke
- 25:12to this next issue and but then out of nowhere sometimes that
- 25:16Jack-in-the-Box Will Spring out trauma-based.
- 25:19Yeah if you're or something that triggers them and boy they can't
- 25:24not react to it. Yeah and if we can just remember
- 25:26that and realize it's just an automatic survival you know base
- 25:31for trauma-based response we can we can kind of cope with a
- 25:34little more and get past it they can rebound the more times that
- 25:37you are able to work through Those situations, the more
- 25:40equipped you are and really that's a big part of what we do
- 25:44here is we have the staff and environment to be able to work
- 25:49with those behaviors as they arise and help them work through
- 25:52that with our therapeutic. Therapeutic team and give them
- 25:55better skills. Yeah.
- 25:57To when they re-enter great back in the bottle, you so our meal,
- 26:00you I'm is another word for another pot of you podcast.
- 26:04So, all right. Well, I think that's probably
- 26:08Blee TimeWise, good for this, probably a wrap.
- 26:11Yeah, yeah we really, really appreciate you listening to this
- 26:15inaugural. Inaugural podcast is another.
- 26:19We look we have a difference of opinion on.
- 26:21Yeah. We talked about that at the
- 26:23beginning but will we look forward to having more
- 26:27discussions with you? This is what we do at the ranch,
- 26:30we sit around and we talk about stuff and we apply humor and we
- 26:33take what we've learned in our experiences, and we do it with
- 26:36some humility, some levity. And we want you to join us.
- 26:42So thank you can subscribe to our podcast.
- 26:45I'm sure at some point we haven't uploaded this to all the
- 26:48various platforms, so we don't know exactly how but I think
- 26:51it'll be on probably Spotify and apple, whatever is free,
- 26:55basically what we're gonna do right now so check that out and
- 26:58we'll have links and everything that will send out a future
- 27:02podcast will be more specific but thanks again.
- 27:05Awesome Audio. Hey guys, I'm doing Harding
- 27:12house manager at Whetstone. I want to talk briefly about
- 27:15relationships and how meaningful that is to our work here.
- 27:18There's a quote that's been floating around Whetstone for
- 27:20some time. It says rules without
- 27:22relationship equals Rebellion. If you me or anyone tries to
- 27:26enforce our rules on to children in our lives before we built up
- 27:30a good relationship with them. We're asking for Rebellion
- 27:33relationship first rule second, let's go boys.
- 27:38Rich is the therapeutic boarding school located in the scenic
- 27:41Ozarks of southern Missouri. It was found in 2011 to serve
- 27:45families from around the country who are struggling with
- 27:48challenging behaviors from their 12.
- 27:50To 16 year old Sons. Our mission is to sharpen the
- 27:53character of young men Allowing God to work.
- 27:56Through us as iron sharpens iron.
- 27:58Please contact us at Whetstone, Boys.
- 28:00Ranch.com if you or anyone, you know, has run out of options for
- 28:04their son. Thanks for listening to a time,
- 28:06to sharpen, and we'll see you next time.