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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Neama Rahmani, West Coast Trial Lawyers · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 3: Rich has heard live eleven am to two pm every Saturday,
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 1: Bill.
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Speaker 3: All right, I was talking about robotics and the delivery
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Speaker 3: bots that are going around Los Angeles, and we're seeing
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Speaker 3: more and more of that. And one of the topics
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Speaker 3: that you're bringing forward that you put on the table
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Speaker 3: is Rumba. The Rumba founder is betting on robot pets.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I have a roombat at home, and I stopped using
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Speaker 3: it when it ran over one of my little Doxies
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Speaker 3: because it just didn't do the Yeah, well, what can.
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Speaker 2: I tell you?
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Speaker 3: So I've got treadmarks on the back of my little Doxy.
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Speaker 3: But the by the way, none of that is true.
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Speaker 3: The yeah, well, the dogs don't like it, to be
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Speaker 3: honest with you, because they're kind of noise.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But though my cat when we were we were fostering casts,
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Speaker 1: it rode on the Rumba like that was pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, all right, So.
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Speaker 3: Robot pets, which is kind of a new spin on that.
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Speaker 3: Explain that to me?
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean you're familiar with the concept, right,
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Speaker 1: like so many companies have tried over the years to
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Speaker 1: come up with a robotic companion, right, like a companion pet.
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Speaker 1: So this is the guy who ran Rumba for many,
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Speaker 1: many years. I robot, now I robot by the way, started.
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Speaker 1: They weren't necessarily going to make vacuums. Apparently they were
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Speaker 1: going to do other kind of stuff, and vacuums just
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Speaker 1: is kind of what they fell into and they did
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Speaker 1: it really well. And then you know that Amazon tried
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Speaker 1: to buy them. That did not go through because I
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Speaker 1: think the government said no way and anyway. So now
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Speaker 1: there's now the guy behind it, Colin Angle. He is
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Speaker 1: starting a new company. They unveiled this called Familiar Machines
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Speaker 1: and matt and so their first product that they showed
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Speaker 1: off is a robotic companion. It kind of looks like
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Speaker 1: an oversized dog slash creature you might see on a
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Speaker 1: TV show. They've got a lot of these Hollywood types
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Speaker 1: that's actually have an office in La. Got a lot
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Speaker 1: of Hollywood types behind this new company trying to build
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Speaker 1: this machine. And the thing is this device is not
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Speaker 1: to talk to you. It is a companion device that's
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Speaker 1: like you, hug, it cuddles with you, has a personality,
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Speaker 1: but it's not going to speak to you. And so
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Speaker 1: it's called a Familiar By the way, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: so we'll see if this takes off. It just seems like,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to come up with a product
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Speaker 1: or I guess a lot of companies are trying to
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Speaker 1: come up with products that are a companion that sits
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Speaker 1: in your house and just kind of it keeps your company,
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Speaker 1: I guess, especially for the elderly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I thought.
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Speaker 3: These when you have elderly people that are very lonely
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Speaker 3: and everybody else has died on them. My mother died
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Speaker 3: ninety eight. All her friends were gone, and she went
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Speaker 3: into you know, not thinking correctly. She wanted in to
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Speaker 3: mention if I had one of these. Number one, I
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Speaker 3: think it would help her. Number two, I'd convinced her
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Speaker 3: it was real, because that would be easy.
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Speaker 2: This this, this is absolutely real.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, really, okay, So that makes sense to me because
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Speaker 3: you're gonna have baby boomers, of which I am one.
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Speaker 3: It's we're aging and there's a lot of us. So
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Speaker 3: I can see that working coin base. Well okay, a yeah,
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Speaker 3: go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Real quick, just to just to put a cap on this.
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Speaker 1: The one of the most popular things I saw at
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Speaker 1: CES this year was another realistic looking dog, also from
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Speaker 1: a bunch of people that have like Jim Henson creature
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Speaker 1: shop Hollywood background called Jenny, and that's from a company
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Speaker 1: called Tombot, also in the LA area. So this space
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Speaker 1: is definitely heating up. And I think the real I
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Speaker 1: think the key here is that AI has finally gotten
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Speaker 1: to a place where they and put it inside these
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Speaker 1: robotic pets, and it actually does sort of feel like
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Speaker 1: it's a real pet versus the old ones that were
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Speaker 1: just kind of pre programmed to move, wag their tail,
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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So I think this is
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Speaker 1: bringing them to the next level that we just haven't
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Speaker 1: seen before. We also need the price to be at
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Speaker 1: a place where people can afford it, and the machine
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Speaker 1: itself to actually be kind of huggable and lovable.
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Speaker 2: Rich A, what was I going to ask you? I thought,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, I just forgot to. Oh yeah, here
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Speaker 2: we go AI.
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Speaker 3: I was reading in the Wall Street Journal this weekend
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Speaker 3: about AI, and I thought, it's basically still in the
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Speaker 3: beginning stages and venture capitals starting at all. Last year
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Speaker 3: it did sixty billion dollars in revenues, and this year
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Speaker 3: it may top one hundred billion dollars. And I'm thinking,
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Speaker 3: oh man, this is no longer startup time. And I
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Speaker 3: thought that we're still in the startup world, I guess not.
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Speaker 1: Well, we are in a way, but you have to
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Speaker 1: think about it. I mean, the top two companies right now,
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Speaker 1: which are Anthropic and open Ai, have not IPO's, so yes,
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Speaker 1: they are technically still startups. They're just worth the guy
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Speaker 1: in the uh you know, there's that lawsuit between Elon
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Speaker 1: Musk and Sam Altman, the founder of open ai, and
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Speaker 1: actually Elon was an early founder as well, but he
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Speaker 1: left because you know, they got he got angry. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: the guy in the open Ai trial came out and
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Speaker 1: says stock is worth like thirty billion dollars or something
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Speaker 1: or his you know, his interest in the company. So
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Speaker 1: these are these are huge companies, I think build The
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Speaker 1: reason why they're so valuable and why AI is generating
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Speaker 1: so much money is twofold number one. A lot of
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Speaker 1: people are actually paying for this, Like you can use
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Speaker 1: Ai for free, but a lot of people that are
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Speaker 1: finding value in it are paying right off the top.
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Speaker 1: Whereas Google, you know, that company lasted. That company was
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Speaker 1: like ten fifteen years where people didn't pay a dime
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Speaker 1: to them for anything until they started need cloud storage
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Speaker 1: or something like that. And you know, so right, off
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Speaker 1: the bat, these companies are making money by charging. But
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Speaker 1: the big thing is that companies, you know, corporate customers
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Speaker 1: are paying big, big bucks to use these AI tools.
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Speaker 1: They don't get them for free because the amount of
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Speaker 1: computer using is just way too high, and so the
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Speaker 1: money is staggering.
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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I'm thinking this is one of those financial
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Speaker 3: issues where the hard money is upfront, for example, building
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Speaker 3: these computer centers, which is I don't know how many
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Speaker 3: billions of dollars each one, but once they're built, now
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Speaker 3: you're basically talking software. And if you're charging the same
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Speaker 3: or more money, these things have to be insanely profitable.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but here's the thing about that hardware, and we
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Speaker 1: know this from you know, hardware in general, is that
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Speaker 1: as soon as you build these facilities, well I mean,
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Speaker 1: how long does it take before they're out of date?
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Speaker 1: You know, the AI just continues to need more and
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Speaker 1: more and more and more and more. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's the issue we've seen with a lot of these
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Speaker 1: companies that are jumping in to say, oh, let me
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Speaker 1: build a data center. Let me build a data center.
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Speaker 1: They realize, hey, it's more expensive because the components are
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Speaker 1: so expensive right now, and b hold on, what's the
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Speaker 1: long term return on that? Because as soon as you
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Speaker 1: get this thing completed, how good is it going to
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Speaker 1: be before you need more compute power? And so this
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Speaker 1: is why Nvidia stock is so high right now. It's
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Speaker 1: because they people just imagine that there will be a
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Speaker 1: race to eternity for this computing power. We don't know
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Speaker 1: if that's true or not. There may be a breakthrough where,
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Speaker 1: you know, these older systems can run things more efficiently.
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Speaker 1: Who knows, but at this point, yeah, everyone, Look, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of money being poured into this, into this industry,
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Speaker 1: and for good reason. It is changing a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
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Speaker 3: Okay, a story about the iPhone seventeen and I have
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Speaker 3: a question about this, and that is you now have
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Speaker 3: another version.
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Speaker 2: Of the iPhone.
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Speaker 3: It's incrementally better than the previous iPhone, and yet is
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Speaker 3: it close to every human being on this planet has
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Speaker 3: one short of the guy in Africa and a hut
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Speaker 3: with his bone through his nose, and that's the only
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Speaker 3: guy who's left that doesn't have one.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems that it is taking over the world.
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Speaker 1: And this Apple is in a very good place right now,
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Speaker 1: which is ironic because they are actually the furthest behind
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Speaker 1: when it comes to AI, which is, you know, the
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Speaker 1: hottest topic. Like we were just talking, but somehow their
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Speaker 1: hardware is so good that people are willing to look
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Speaker 1: past it. And I think not only is the hardware good,
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Speaker 1: but I think that the services that they offer around
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Speaker 1: it are so good and people are so immeshed in that.
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Speaker 1: I talked about the Summer Radio show over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: Like you know, when you use an iPhone, you're you're
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Speaker 1: all in. You're using I Message, you're using Apple Music,
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Speaker 1: you're using Apple Notes, You're using all these first party
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Speaker 1: kind of programs that only work really well on the iPhone,
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Speaker 1: and people don't mind, they don't care, they don't even
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Speaker 1: care that that, you know whatever. Anyway, But the top
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Speaker 1: three selling smartphones first quarter of twenty twenty six or
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Speaker 1: all the iPhone seventeen's, iPhone seventeen, iPhone seventeen proms iPhone
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Speaker 1: seventeen Pro, then the next like I don't know, a
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Speaker 1: couple of phones are all Samsung's, but their budget Samsung phones,
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Speaker 1: and that I think is really what's so interesting about
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Speaker 1: this list of top ten best selling phones is that
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Speaker 1: you've got super high end premium phones from Apple, people
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Speaker 1: are gobbling them up. But in the rest of the world,
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Speaker 1: you know, like a place like India, it's very popular
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Speaker 1: to get these very inexpensive phones, and that's where Samsung.
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Speaker 1: Samsung is excelling, and so it's just, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: a tale of two worlds right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm assuming that the inexpective phones, the profit margin
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Speaker 3: is way less than what Apple gets for its iPhones.
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Speaker 3: The other thing about iPhones, and you know, I spent
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Speaker 3: I just got a seventeen and I mean it's equipped
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Speaker 3: with one thousand.
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Speaker 2: Dollars or eleven hundred dollars.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're insanely expensive. I don't want to relearn
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Speaker 3: with another program. I'm just so used to what Apple does.
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Speaker 3: And then everybody I know has Apple. So when I text,
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Speaker 3: when I share information, it's to other Apple users. And
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Speaker 3: you're right, once we're caught up in that web, but
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Speaker 3: we're not getting out, and I guess Apple relies on.
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Speaker 1: That, right, Apple one hundred percent relies on that. I
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Speaker 1: message was really the glue, like you said, the blue
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Speaker 1: bubbles was really a glue that held this together for
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Speaker 1: so long, and it finally like it's taken a while,
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Speaker 1: but it's to the point where people do not want
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Speaker 1: to give up their iPhone above anything else. Sorry, I'm
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Speaker 1: not changing. And like you said, once you have your
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Speaker 1: photos in there and everything else that you've got stored
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Speaker 1: with Apple services and the iCloud and this, and that,
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Speaker 1: you're not going to switch and you don't want to
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Speaker 1: relearn something. But it's funny, Bills. So many people email
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Speaker 1: me and they say, Rich, my friends and family are
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Speaker 1: pressuring me to get rid of my Samsung phone. They
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Speaker 1: want me to go iPhone. Should I? And I say
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Speaker 1: every time, I say, look, if it's working for you,
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Speaker 1: stick with it. But if you want to switch, yes,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to relearn this. But the good news
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Speaker 1: is probably all your friends and family have it, so
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Speaker 1: they'll be able to help you along.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: All right, Rich, We'll catch you this Saturday here on
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Speaker 3: KFI eleven am to two pm. Every day he's on KTLA, Instagram,
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Speaker 3: at rich on tech website, richontech dot TV.
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Speaker 2: Take care. We'll catch you this weekend and then next
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Speaker 2: week right here on KFI.
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Speaker 1: I have a good one, thanks Bill.
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Speaker 3: All right, moving into another topic, and you are going
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Speaker 3: to hear about this for well between now and November
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Speaker 3: big time, and you're going to see commercials on TV
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Speaker 3: and radio and print. And it's all about an Uber initiative.
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Speaker 3: And as I've told you, initiatives, when they say one thing,
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Speaker 3: they really mean another because they are written to bamboozle people.
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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what's going on with Uber. Nima Rockmani
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Speaker 3: or Ramani?
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Speaker 2: Anima? Do I have your name? I always mispronounce it.
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Speaker 4: Bill, you got it perfectly. Nima Ramani thinks.
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Speaker 3: Okay of West Coast trial lawyers, so you the West
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Speaker 3: Coast try Oh.
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Speaker 2: And I want to say something right now.
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Speaker 3: I have to have a disclaimer because this is about
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Speaker 3: personal injury and handle on the Law dot com is
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Speaker 3: a referral to personal injury. So there you go. I'm biased.
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Speaker 3: Total disclaimer. Now let's talk about the Uber initiative and
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Speaker 3: what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Nanima.
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Speaker 5: Bill so Uber is putting a constitutional amendment on the
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Speaker 5: ballot in November that's going to do two things. First,
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Speaker 5: it's going to cap attorney fees and medical bills combine
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Speaker 5: at twenty five percent of the total settlement in any
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Speaker 5: motor vehicle accident case. Doesn't matter if you're a pedestrian, bicyclist,
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Speaker 5: you're in a ride share or your own car and
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Speaker 5: you're hit by a semi any case, now that sounds good,
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Speaker 5: but it's just not going to work in practice. And
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Speaker 5: the other thing they're going to do is tie medical
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Speaker 5: bills in those cases to medic care. But what's going
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Speaker 5: to happen is it's going to wipe out the entire
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Speaker 5: personal injury industry in California. So if you're injured in
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Speaker 5: a car accident, you're not going to be able to
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Speaker 5: find a lawyer to take your case.
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Speaker 4: It's really a genius move, Viober and.
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Speaker 2: Think again, and you're right.
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Speaker 3: I want to tell people that if you are looking
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Speaker 3: at a case and medical bills can be pretty high
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Speaker 3: and you have to take twenty five percent of a
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Speaker 3: settlement that go between the doctor and the lawyer who's
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Speaker 3: going to take it, I wouldn't take it. There's no
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Speaker 3: money to be made. I would basically be doing this
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Speaker 3: for almost nothing. And how are they portraying this because
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Speaker 3: you know it sounds good as you described.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's absolutely right.
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Speaker 5: So in your typical car accident case, the medical bills
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Speaker 5: alone are going to be over twenty five percent of
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Speaker 5: the total settlement. So by phrasing it the way they
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Speaker 5: have for the vast majority, if not all, motor vehicle cases,
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Speaker 5: the attorney fees are going to be zero or close
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Speaker 5: to nothing, So you're not going to be able to
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Speaker 5: find a lawyer to take the case. So everyone's going
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Speaker 5: to exit the field. So then what will happen is
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Speaker 5: everyone has to use their health insurance. So if you
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Speaker 5: don't have health insurance, well that's a problem. And even
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Speaker 5: the people that do have health insurance, this is a
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Speaker 5: really big deal because now whenever health insurance pays out
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Speaker 5: for any medical treatment in a car accident case, they
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Speaker 5: get to recover from the auto insurance. So we're talking
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Speaker 5: about hospitals, we're talking about Medicare, medical PPOHMO, doesn't matter
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Speaker 5: a bill.
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Speaker 4: They all get to be reimburshed.
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Speaker 5: But because those cases aren't happening, those reimbursements or subrogation
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Speaker 5: isn't happening.
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Speaker 4: So guess what, all those health.
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Speaker 5: Insurance premiums are going to go up, and to the
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Speaker 5: extent that they're taxpayer funded, like medical it's going to
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Speaker 5: be an increased burden on the state.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little bit difficult for a lot of
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Speaker 3: people to understand. The basic premise that I think has
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Speaker 3: to be explained is it's real simple.
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Speaker 2: You're not going to get a lawyer to get your case.
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Speaker 3: You get injured in whatever accident, if there's a vehicle accident,
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Speaker 3: forget about lawyers.
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Speaker 2: You're on your own.
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Speaker 3: And as I've said many times, you're crazy to go
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Speaker 3: against an insurance company on your own out of your
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Speaker 3: mind because doctors or lawyers also negotiate the medical fields.
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Speaker 3: This initiative is going to be on the November ballot
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Speaker 3: that Uber is putting on the ballot, and well, what
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Speaker 3: it does is basically destroy the personal injury industry completely
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Speaker 3: in the guys of and again I have to disclaim
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Speaker 3: this handle on the law dot com is a referral
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Speaker 3: business for personal injury. So obviously you take me with
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Speaker 3: a grain of salt or you rate out believe me.
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Speaker 3: And it has to do with this initiative saying that
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Speaker 3: twenty five percent of any settlement goes to the doctors,
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Speaker 3: goes to the lawyer and fees all involved. So no
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Speaker 3: lawyer will do it because there's no money to be made,
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Speaker 3: I mean zero. So Ninbo, what what are you guys
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Speaker 3: doing to deal with this' what's on the schedule.
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Speaker 5: We're raising a lot of money, the lawyers, the doctors
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Speaker 5: to fight this initiative because money matters and these elections,
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Speaker 5: this is probably going to be the most expensive election
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Speaker 5: in California state history. Obviously, we've got a governor's race,
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Speaker 5: we've got a mayor's race in LA, some big constitutional initiatives,
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Speaker 5: the billionaire attacks, and I think this one and an
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Speaker 5: Uber years ago. Prop twenty two spent more than two
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Speaker 5: hundred million dollars to deregulate themselves, make their dry divers
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Speaker 5: independent contractors so they don't have to pay mileage, overtime,
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Speaker 5: meal breaks, workers compensation. So Uber knows what it's doing.
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Speaker 5: So we're going to fight fire with fire. We are
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Speaker 5: raising money because Californians they deserve the right to choose
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Speaker 5: their own doctors. They deserve the right to get compensation
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Speaker 5: if they're hurt an accident, and the reality is that's
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Speaker 5: the most likely way someone's going to be injured.
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Speaker 4: So we're going to fight this all the way up
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Speaker 4: to the November election.
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's be fair when you talk about they deserve
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Speaker 3: their own doctors, they deserve the ability to get paid lawyers.
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Speaker 3: You have to admit lawyers also certainly have skin in
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Speaker 3: the game because part of this is lawyers get screwed.
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Speaker 2: I mean they're going to be out of business period.
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Speaker 3: Personal injury lawyers disappear, And so are you fighting this?
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Speaker 3: I understand there are some initiatives on your side that
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Speaker 3: are going up to not just a single fight with Uber.
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Speaker 2: Do I have that right?
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Speaker 1: That is right.
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Speaker 5: What we're doing is we have our own initiative on
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Speaker 5: the ballot to hold Uber drivers and their parent company
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Speaker 5: Uber liable for these sexual assaults that happened. I mean,
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Speaker 5: there's far too many stories of young women who are
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Speaker 5: assaulted in an Uber and we've had a couple pretty
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Speaker 5: high profile cases where some Uber drivers have committed some
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Speaker 5: pretty serious crimes, at least allegedly. There was a hostage
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Speaker 5: situation over the weekend in Beverly Hills, and of course Rindernik,
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Speaker 5: who was accused of setting the fire that became the
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Speaker 5: Malibu and Palisades fire, was an Uber driver just dropped
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Speaker 5: off a couple of.
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Speaker 4: Passengers shortly before he ignited that initial fire.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so the fight is really simple, and it's apples
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Speaker 3: and oranges.
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Speaker 2: Uber. If we're going to break it down, and we're.
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Speaker 3: Going to have to because these propositions are written to
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Speaker 3: the way that no one understands them. So the fight
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Speaker 3: is going to be Uber on behalf of the public
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Speaker 3: go against doctors and lawyers, or says you can only
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Speaker 3: get twenty five percent of all the fees that are collected,
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Speaker 3: and that literally does put lawyers out of business.
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Speaker 2: It's just that simple.
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Speaker 3: Now, your fight is Uber has a bunch of rapists
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Speaker 3: going on and they're not controlling their people. And look
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Speaker 3: at all of the sexual miscreants that are driving Uber.
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Speaker 2: There is not enough control. Those are two separate issues.
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Speaker 4: And you're very separate issues. That's right.
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Speaker 5: And then our initiative is going to require comprehensive background checks, videos,
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Speaker 5: maintaining that reports to law enforcement whenever there's a complaint,
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Speaker 5: to really hold Uber and its drivers accountable for the
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Speaker 5: safety of their passengers.
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Speaker 3: So what happens if both win because there are two
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Speaker 3: separate propositions.
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Speaker 5: So they both win the car accident cases, they're done.
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Speaker 5: You're right, there's going to be no more personal injury
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Speaker 5: law related to those, but a sexual assault case can proceed,
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Speaker 5: So there will be other types of personal injury cases
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Speaker 5: that could survive.
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Speaker 4: The Uber initiative, a motor vehicle bill that's going to
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Speaker 4: be done. People are going to be on their own.
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Speaker 5: They're involved in a car accident, they got to rely
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Speaker 5: on their health insurance or pay cash out of pocket.
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Speaker 3: And the personal injury when it comes to car cases
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Speaker 3: is what ninety percent of virtually every case that's filed.
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Speaker 3: I mean that is the personal injury industry completely on
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Speaker 3: its own. So I'm in reality, a bunch of lawyers
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Speaker 3: are simply going to be put out of business and
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Speaker 3: have to find something else. And what do you do?
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Speaker 3: For example, you do personal injury, right Anima.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do personal injury Loka. People are going to
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Speaker 5: go into employment, they're going to go out of state.
21:45
Speaker 5: But yeah, all these billboards, radio ads, I mean, all
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Speaker 5: those will be done because the industry is going to
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Speaker 5: be dead.
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Speaker 3: So what do you plan on doing assuming that this
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Speaker 3: thing goes yea any idea?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we've opened in other states where in Las
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Speaker 5: Vegas when we're in Seattle, we're about to go in
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Speaker 5: to Denver. We're a large employment law firm as well,
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Speaker 5: so we're going to pivot to these other areas. We're
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Speaker 5: in the business to helping people, but it's going to
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Speaker 5: be helping them in different types of cases. Are different states,
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Speaker 5: not just here in California.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, in the bottom line is you have the
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Speaker 3: wherewithal I mean, your firm has the ability, you have
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Speaker 3: the resources, but the sole practitioner or the smaller medium
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Speaker 3: size firm is just in a lot of trouble, no question.
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm fortunate.
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Speaker 5: I've been doing this twenty five years as a former
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Speaker 5: federal prosecutor. One of the youngest people ever graduate Harvard
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Speaker 5: Law School I did at twenty two, So you know
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Speaker 5: we're going to be okay, But those smaller personal injury
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Speaker 5: firms and the solos, they're going to be out of business.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, congratulations graduating Harvard. I graduated Whittier Law School,
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Speaker 3: which has since gone out of business because it was
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Speaker 3: so bad. Okay, NIMO will talk again a whole lot
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Speaker 3: because this is one of the most important initiatives coming up,
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Speaker 3: So we'll talk right.
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Speaker 2: Welcome.
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Speaker 4: It's going to be a busy summer and fun.
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Speaker 2: All right, you got it. Take care of NIMA.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's one of those initiatives. And what you're
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Speaker 3: going to hear on both sides is basically a convoluted argument.
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Speaker 3: You all have to boil it down. Lawyers, personal injury
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Speaker 3: lawyers are going to effectively be out of business, and
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Speaker 3: Uber is going to be held liable for sexual assaults.
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Speaker 3: Two different propositions going down the pathway. And that's how
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Speaker 3: they're fighting each other. Right now, we'll see how it changes. Okay,
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Speaker 3: that's it. We're done, guys. Tomorrow morning we come back
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Speaker 3: and we start this all over again. I've got Amy
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Speaker 3: and Bill. Excuse me, Will, I'm Bill. God, I can't
23:51
Speaker 3: believe that. I know, I get myself.
23:53
Speaker 2: Confused with Will smoke.
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Speaker 5: I know, I knowdies and gentlemen today day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but look at how long it took for me
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Speaker 3: to get confused between me and Will.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean applod Yeah, yeah you should. So Will
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Speaker 2: and Amy come aboard. Yeah, it's a little tough. And
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Speaker 2: then Neil or whatever hell is name.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Neil and me, we're here, and of course Amy
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Speaker 3: is always there and ann no, no.
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Speaker 2: I said Amy is always there?
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Speaker 3: No I meant no I met Amy? Yeah time, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that time I met Amy. Okay, and a part of
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Speaker 3: the show. So tomorrow and let's see if I can
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Speaker 3: go through an entire show without screwing it up again.
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Speaker 3: I made it to eight fifty eight. My god, that's
24:45
Speaker 3: a miracle. All Right, Gary and Shannon are up next.
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