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Foldable Phones, Digital Hoarders & Rock ’n’ Roll | EP 489 · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, this is Adrienne Barbeau. You're listening to Tech Talk Radio,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Sean DeWeerd.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: And we are, of course, the show that is here
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  Speaker 3: Technology.
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  Speaker 1: And, of course, the Internet and all the gadgets and
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  Speaker 1: the fun stuff and We've got a really good show
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  Speaker 1: lined up today because there's a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of stuff. A lot of stuff has come
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  Speaker 3: up across a variety of topics we always talk about
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  Speaker 3: on the show.
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  Speaker 1: So we wrapped the show last week. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I like the show. We had a good time. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about a lot of great products, talked about the
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  Speaker 1: upcoming BlizzCon, which I know you're going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to share a little bit about, which is awesome. The
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  Speaker 1: next day, the next day, Apple does their big to-do.
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  Speaker 1: They announce a bunch of things, including... The Apple Duo,
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  Speaker 1: the iPhone Duo. And I thought to myself, man, Sean,
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  Speaker 1: I know would have a lot to say about this.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to look at anything about it?
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  Speaker 3: Foldable phones are just not for me, man. Like, Caitlin
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  Speaker 3: and I were just talking the other day. We both
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  Speaker 3: have 13s. I have a 13 Pro. She's got the
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  Speaker 3: 13 Mini. And she's saying that she's running out of
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  Speaker 3: storage on her phone. She's looking for an upgrade. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I couldn't even remember what version
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  Speaker 3: of phone they were on. I've been so unimpressed with
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  Speaker 3: phone technology with these incremental updates of the tiniest little
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  Speaker 3: thing getting upgraded. Foldable phones are just not a thing
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  Speaker 3: I'm interested in. I've never been interested in that size
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  Speaker 3: of a phone. I've never been interested in that size
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  Speaker 3: of an iPad or any sort of handheld tablet device.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not for me. I'm going to just be
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  Speaker 3: brutally honest. The iPhone Duo, I am not interested in it, period.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of people that feel
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  Speaker 1: that way. I think there are people, though, that have
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  Speaker 1: been in the iPhone architecture that have been using the
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  Speaker 1: iPhone that when Galaxy came out with their foldable phone,
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  Speaker 1: they went, oh, that's neat. Or Pixel with theirs. They
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  Speaker 1: probably said, that's neat. And, you know, we're thinking, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if... And the big question has always been, when
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  Speaker 1: will Apple do it? They finally have done it. So
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  Speaker 1: it will certainly appeal... to a good number of people
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  Speaker 1: that are looking for that type of device. Now, let
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  Speaker 1: me explain a little bit about it. And I did
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  Speaker 1: a segment on KMSB Fox 11, where we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about how Apple has announced the Duo, but not to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to not mention that yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: the iPhone 18 Pro and the Pro Max have been
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  Speaker 1: now been made available. You may have seen Verizon has
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  Speaker 1: been running ads. Apple has been running ads. I think
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  Speaker 1: they really want the focus to be on the Duo,
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  Speaker 1: which comes at a higher price point. And I noticed
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  Speaker 1: some people were amazed and shocked at the price of
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  Speaker 1: the iPhone Duo, the foldable Apple device. They were saying,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, it's.
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  Speaker 4: $ 2, 000.
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  Speaker 1: That's just too much. That's the price that people were
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  Speaker 1: paying for the Galaxy and the Pixel. I think the
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  Speaker 1: Pixel may have been maybe $ 100 or $ 200 cheaper, or
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  Speaker 1: it may have been the Galaxy one that is. We
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  Speaker 1: know that Justin got himself a Pixel Fold, And I
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  Speaker 1: think he, I think he liked it pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't, I don't know. I still, again, it's,
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  Speaker 3: I've looked at it. I understand what it is. It's just,
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  Speaker 3: I'm so disinterested in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I get the idea. I just, it's not for me. I,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Do you, do you, let me ask you, Sean, do
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  Speaker 1: you have a tablet like an iPad?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: We have an iPad mini that we just happened to
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  Speaker 3: get because we were, upgrade our phones and it was
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  Speaker 3: a bundle we got it for a set amount of
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  Speaker 3: money and you know it added it it added it
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  Speaker 3: as a third line of cell phone because it's the
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  Speaker 3: cellular version um and then we just canceled it after
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  Speaker 3: whatever the period of time was we had so we
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  Speaker 3: have an ipad mini yeah we the only thing we
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  Speaker 3: use it for it's loaded with movies for the kids
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  Speaker 3: when we travel yeah yeah that's the only thing we
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  Speaker 3: use it for i've never been an i a tablet
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  Speaker 3: user my mom loves her ipad She uses it for
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  Speaker 3: her gymnastics judging stuff. She uses it for her gymnastics
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  Speaker 3: camp stuff and note-taking and all that stuff. My dad
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  Speaker 3: likes his iPad for doing stuff. I don't fall into
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  Speaker 3: the iPad user category. It's not my style of technology.
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  Speaker 1: When I got my first iPad, and I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: what generation it was, I remember I thought, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to edit a lot of video on this. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be using this on the road. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to use it when I go and shoot a video.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to edit video on it. I honestly found
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  Speaker 1: I was just so used to editing video on the
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  Speaker 1: iPhone itself. If I needed to edit on the Apple platform,
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  Speaker 1: not having a Mac at the time, that was the
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  Speaker 1: way to go for me. The phone was good. The
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  Speaker 1: iPad ended up getting used for games. I used it
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  Speaker 1: for games, maybe listening to music and watching content like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on Netflix or any of the other services there.
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  Speaker 1: So it really wasn't. And I'm wondering how many people
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  Speaker 1: are going to be using the Duo we're doing the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, we get a phone, we get
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  Speaker 1: a phone to, to make phone calls. It's a crazy concept, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm not even into like, I
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  Speaker 3: find it hard to even do like outside of just some,
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  Speaker 3: some brain numbing games like Candy Crush or those types
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  Speaker 3: of games. Or Maze Go. Yeah, sure. Or Bubble Pop
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  Speaker 3: or all these other little, little games. I, I, I
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  Speaker 3: don't find myself using my phone that often. And again,
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  Speaker 3: I I'm in the minority in this, right. And, and
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  Speaker 3: Caitlin's the same way. Like when we're home, we're not,
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  Speaker 3: if we're sitting on the couch, we're either, we, she
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  Speaker 3: has a Kindle, I have a book or I'm reading.
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  Speaker 3: I read a lot on my phone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, which is funny, you know, Amanda from the show, man, we,
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  Speaker 1: we talked to her a few weeks ago, uh, as
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  Speaker 1: an educator. And she sent me a note. She says,
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  Speaker 1: if you really want a foldable, get a book.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It makes a point. All right.
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  Speaker 3: So again, yeah, it's just the exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: But the other pieces of the iPhone stuff or the
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  Speaker 3: Apple release were better. Right. You know, you have Golden Gate,
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  Speaker 3: which is iOS 27. Right. It releases. I haven't upgraded
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  Speaker 3: mine to it yet. We have to qualify it at
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  Speaker 3: work to work with all of our equipment. So we
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  Speaker 3: can't upgrade to it yet.
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  Speaker 1: That's smart.
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  Speaker 3: We usually wait for. 27.0.1 or, you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of it, because people are going to be
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  Speaker 1: thinking about that too, that have iPhones and suddenly, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they get the notification, the red dot, time to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: upgrade your iOS. When, after an iOS update is done,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not a major one like 27, but, you know, 26.1, 26, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: How long do you wait, Sean, before you say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to commit and do this update?
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  Speaker 3: For my phones, I like to do it right away.
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  Speaker 3: I did it with, especially the bigger jumps, like when
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  Speaker 3: they went from 10.18 or whatever it was to 26.
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  Speaker 3: I jumped right to it. Remember, I went through the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing with, I had it, my phone got messed
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  Speaker 3: up and they wouldn't Apple care it because it was
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  Speaker 3: on the beta version and I had to downgrade and
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  Speaker 3: then it was a whole thing. And then they had
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  Speaker 3: to replace the batteries. So they had to do it.
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  Speaker 3: It was like four or five days of me having
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  Speaker 3: to back up my phone, factory reset it.
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  Speaker 2: To reload it.
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  Speaker 1: That was no fun for you. I know that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: To then reinstall the main, it was, it was annoying,
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  Speaker 3: but I like, I do like playing with new software
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  Speaker 3: and new firmware versions of stuff to see what's new
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  Speaker 3: or what doesn't work. Sometimes it's frustrating because it breaks
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  Speaker 3: things that you like. Change isn't always good. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We had a vendor just come and we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about our, our future plans for our upgrade next year.
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  Speaker 3: And one of our vendors said, you know, don't change
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  Speaker 3: just to change, change for benefit. So if you're making
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  Speaker 3: a big change, don't just change because it's changed, change
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  Speaker 3: because something's good is going to come of it or you're,
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  Speaker 3: you're benefiting from it. So I don't think if I
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  Speaker 3: changed to the duo, I would get any benefit. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure if I got it, I would like it
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  Speaker 3: and it would work as a phone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's just, I have, I have two children. I'm about
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  Speaker 3: to have a third. That's going to get snapped in half, okay?
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  Speaker 3: I get Hot Wheels thrown in my head every day.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I tripped and fell over on some child's
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  Speaker 3: toy earlier, and it's like, I'm going to break something
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder about that, too. You know, already, though,
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  Speaker 1: we are seeing cases that are coming out for the
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  Speaker 1: iPhone 18. I'm wondering, are we going to see them
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  Speaker 1: for the Duo? Now, here's the thing. You can't walk in...
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  Speaker 1: At least I don't think you could walk into Verizon
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  Speaker 1: right now or physical retailers and say, I want to
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  Speaker 1: see the Duo because it's actually not out till next month.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be available for pre-order on the 16th of October.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be available on the 23rd of the month. And again,
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  Speaker 1: if you've been wanting to get your hands on it,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you a little bit about it. It's
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  Speaker 1: got a 5.4 inch outer display. And then when you
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  Speaker 1: fold it open, you get a 7.6 inch inner display.
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  Speaker 1: But one thing that is neat about this, Sean, that
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  Speaker 1: I kind of said, okay, that would be nice, especially
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  Speaker 1: being somebody that has run extra monitors on my laptops.
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  Speaker 1: It has a split view feature. So you can actually
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  Speaker 1: run two apps side by side. So if you want
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  Speaker 1: to use your browser, you know, your Safari browser on
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  Speaker 1: one and then maybe Netflix on another, you know, or
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  Speaker 1: Spotify or maybe a productivity app on the other, you
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  Speaker 1: could do that. It also has a 48 megapixel Fusion
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  Speaker 1: main camera. So what's really interesting about this with the splits,
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  Speaker 1: is say that you're taking photos of somebody and you're
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  Speaker 1: holding up the camera, you know, you've got it unfolded,
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  Speaker 1: but they want to see how they look in the
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  Speaker 1: picture you're taking. Now, so you get a group of
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  Speaker 1: people say, okay, everybody look at the camera. They actually
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  Speaker 1: see what picture is being taken. So You know, you
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  Speaker 1: see it through your side. They see it through their
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  Speaker 1: side of what actually is being taken at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: That I thought that's kind of a neat feature. It
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  Speaker 1: does have its own stand. So if you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you use the folding design to get one screen, that 5.4
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  Speaker 1: inch screen, then you have a stand. So some people
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  Speaker 1: are saying, well, for FaceTimes or content creators, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I think that's shooting a little far.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Content creator would, would do that, put it on a stick.
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  Speaker 1: They'd want to have some kind of tripod mount or whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: It does feature the A20 Pro, which, you know, we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, Apple doing its own, you know, processors,
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  Speaker 1: and we weren't sure about it at first. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like they've done pretty good with it, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, now, it's interesting when you think about, like,
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  Speaker 3: developing for somebody else's architecture, right? You're limited to the
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  Speaker 3: sandbox system, Oh yeah. You can play in when you're you,
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  Speaker 3: when you can tune your own apps in your own
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  Speaker 3: hardware to your, or your own software to your own hardware,
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  Speaker 3: you have a lot more flexibility. And so I think,
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  Speaker 3: I think them making that decision was, was a huge
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  Speaker 3: benefit and use for the best bang for your buck
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  Speaker 3: in terms of processing power for the media side of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: The Apple stuff has been fantastic. I mean, I remember,
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  Speaker 3: I remember going from my first My first Intel MacBook,
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  Speaker 3: it was an Intel i9 something that was to an
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  Speaker 3: M1 Pro, and I went to render something out of
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  Speaker 3: Adobe Premiere, and it was, wow, it was incredibly fast.
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  Speaker 3: It was a noticeable difference, even just from a top-end
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  Speaker 3: Intel build to a first-generation M build. And I just
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  Speaker 3: got my new, every four years, I'm up for a
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  Speaker 3: new computer at work. And I have a MacBook. I
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  Speaker 3: just got a new M5 Pro MacBook.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, cool.
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  Speaker 3: And it's insane how much better, how much faster it is.
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  Speaker 3: And so productivity-wise, you're getting a lot more compute and
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  Speaker 3: GPU processing that you're not getting from an Intel-based machine,
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  Speaker 3: but you're having to have a separate GPU and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a benefit to both.
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  Speaker 1: As somebody that does video, for those who don't know,
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  Speaker 1: rendering is when you get everything the way you want
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  Speaker 1: it to look. And then you have to turn it
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  Speaker 1: into one file and that you render it down. And that's,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing that can take a long time. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen horror stories of people who have done stuff and
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  Speaker 1: it just crawls. It just.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, people, people that don't realize how much effort
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  Speaker 3: goes into processing video, right? Think back to when it
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  Speaker 3: went to digital and you had MPEG and then MPEG two,
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  Speaker 3: and then MPEG-4, and then you start getting into all this,
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  Speaker 3: the GPU processing, and then they started finding that CPU
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  Speaker 3: processing was faster, but now we're back to GPU processing
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  Speaker 3: is faster. And so it's crazy to think how far
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  Speaker 3: along the technology has come and how we're processing media now.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, exactly. Well, one other feature of this, and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on this. I remember
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  Speaker 1: the day that on our iPhones, when we needed to
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  Speaker 1: log into it, you just put your thumb on the button,
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  Speaker 1: on that home button. And that was your verification. And
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  Speaker 1: then they switched to Face ID. And it was like,
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  Speaker 1: hold it up, look at your face, do that. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people still loved the idea of the button.
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  Speaker 1: They brought it back. So now you've got a side
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  Speaker 1: button on the side of the Duo that when you're
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  Speaker 1: ready to log in, you authenticate yourself with that side button.
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  Speaker 1: So no more face ID required for it. So people
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  Speaker 1: are saying that's going to be a lot better for them.
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  Speaker 3: The biometric stuff is hit or miss, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I still think passcodes are probably the best idea. Right.
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  Speaker 3: For your overall security. Granted, it should be bigger than
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  Speaker 3: four digits.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And it shouldn't be a code that somebody can easily
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  Speaker 3: identify from you, like a house number. or a birth date,
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  Speaker 3: or a birth year, or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The thumb stuff was cool. It was fast. It worked
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  Speaker 3: really well. You could put multiple fingers in. The face
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  Speaker 3: ID stuff is fine. I notice I get a little
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  Speaker 3: frustrated when it's like, if you have it on your desk,
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  Speaker 3: and a notification pops up, and you just tap it,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like face ID, and you're waiting for it,
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, yeah, I've got to tip it
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  Speaker 3: up so I can see my face. Or you awkwardly
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  Speaker 3: try to lean over the desk so it sees your face.
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  Speaker 1: I've done that before, too. I was wondering if Apple
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  Speaker 1: could see me fighting to get my face on the screen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure they've got billions of videos of people
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  Speaker 3: doing awkward things to try to get rid of their face.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things that I think is a
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  Speaker 3: little lesser known feature about the Face ID stuff is
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  Speaker 3: that when you restart your phone, it requires you to
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  Speaker 3: put in your code, your PIN, to unlock Face ID.
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  Speaker 3: So for those people who have concerns about privacy or hey,
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  Speaker 3: if I get stopped by the police and they want
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  Speaker 3: to search through my phone, they can just scan my
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  Speaker 3: face and it'll unlock my phone. If you press the
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  Speaker 3: side button of your phone five times in a row,
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  Speaker 3: it will force your next login to require the passcode.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: So if you're in a panic or you want to
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  Speaker 3: lock down your phone really quickly, you can just press
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  Speaker 3: the side button several times. I mean, don't press it
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  Speaker 3: a million times because then it starts to try and
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  Speaker 3: do the 911 or the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want that, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The emergency services call, but if you're ever in a
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  Speaker 3: position where you don't want it to be able to
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  Speaker 3: scan your face or use your thumb, I think it
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  Speaker 3: works with the thumb as well. It'll require your next,
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  Speaker 3: your next login to require your pin. So I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was pretty neat.
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  Speaker 1: That is kind of a, that's kind of a cool feature. If,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: if somebody is, is listening to this and they're like me,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: they're on Android and I still have my iPhone, which
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I still love. But if they're on like an Android system,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: they're going to go ahead and bite the bullet. Whether
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: they go with the 18 Pro and Pro Max. And
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: by the way, there's no regular 18. I don't know
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: if you noticed that. It's only the iPhone 18 Pro
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: and the 18 Pro Max. I don't think they're putting
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: out a regular 18. That price is going to be
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: a little better for that device. It's $ 1, 199 for the Pro.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: And I think the Pro Max is $ 1, 299. And they
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: start with.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I want to say 256 gigabytes of storage all the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: way up to two terabytes will be available. And of
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: course the price will go up.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: No, I know it's, it's so crazy because like I
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: got 512 when I bought my phone, iPhone 13.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Same here. Right.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: And, or maybe I got a terabyte. I don't remember. I, I,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I am a digital, a little bit of a digital hoarder.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I don't like, I don't like getting rid of my photos.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I don't like getting rid of my videos. So, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I don't like getting rid of my messages, but, So
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I can look back ever since I've had an iCloud account.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I've never had it delete my messages.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy. From your first iPhone.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: From my first iPhone.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: With iCloud.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe the first couple of years I didn't even know
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: it was a thing, but I'm going to pull it
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: up here. But what do you think my total iCloud
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: storage for just messages is?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: You've told us this once before, and it's pretty amazing.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: So tell us again, what is it?
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: It is, oh, it's much bigger now.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: So my storage for just messages in iCloud is 81.1 gigabytes.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: That's just crazy.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: It's 232,088 messages.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: You're a digital hoarder.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: But you know what? My problem is I have my
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: main drive.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Then I have a backup drive, an 8-terabyte backup drive.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I have another eight terabyte backup drive and I have
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a copies of everything from my C drive to my D.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I have another D drive as well, which is only
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: two terabytes to my, my, uh, E drive and my
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: F drive. I've got, and I, sometimes I get lost.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Which drive am I looking for? Right. I thought by
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: a 12 terabyte drive, move everything that you can over
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and then run my, uh, you know, disc copy program
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to tell me, or my, my program duplicate file finder
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to tell me what duplicates I have on this as
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: a way to try and clean it up. But I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: know there's no way, cause I'll get halfway through it
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: and then I'll stop. And then I'm just going to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: have the same problem on a 12 terabyte drive.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have my Synology. And so again, I
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: also have, I still have, I don't even think it
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: works anymore. When I started college in 2010, Oh, my God.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I feel old. I know that that's weird for me
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: to tell you that, but.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: In 2006, I bought my first external hard drive.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And it was an 80 gigabyte.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: 80 gigs, man.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: And it was like 450.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: You were living on the.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Edge there, weren't you?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah and i still have it i still have the
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: same enclosure i think it might even still be that
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: same drive but does it still spin i have no
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: idea that's completely but i have a bin full of
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: all of my hard drives and yeah when i went
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: through my big archiving phase, family photo phase, and digital
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: brought this analogy and stuff, I went through and archived
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: all my drives. I went through every single drive, serial number, storage,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: what was on it, when I dumped it, ran the
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: smart profiles. I went through all my drives and I
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: have a spreadsheet with a massive list of all the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: drives I have and what was....
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Have you ever gone back and... I've used programs like
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: OnTrack and The one I use now, uh, is, uh, drive.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Is it, it's a, a program. It's a really good
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: program too, that goes in and it might be from
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: ease us. Uh, but the on-track was like top of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the line that will go in and find deleted files
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that you go, Oh, wait, why did I delete that?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I want that file. And, but then you've got lost
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: files that are, yeah. Cloud it's yeah. Organizing is crazy.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: There's, there's a handful of, um, Linux softwares that will
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: do disk recovery type stuff. Um, so I usually, I've
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: run some stuff through my Linux, um, just to see
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: if I can recover stuff, media, et cetera.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to do too.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, it is.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And then I recover all my screenshots. Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And people, people don't realize that, Oh, it, it didn't
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: delete it. Yeah, no, it just, it's put it off
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: to the side till I overwrite it later. Like, well,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: then what's the point of deleting it?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. With that note, I've got something very
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: important to share. Nate Eaton is a reporter in Idaho.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And I believe he is in, it's not Boise. I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: want to say, well, Idaho Falls. And Nate has got
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a great Facebook page. Did a story about this guy
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: in Orange County who was arrested following an investigation by
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Irvine PD. He had showed up at this woman's house
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: installing G-fiber. all right, at her apartment. And during the installation,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: he apparently asked to use her cell phone to test
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the Wi-Fi signal. And, you know, it's a guy putting in,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you know, the backbone for new internet, new fiber system.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: You would think, okay, okay. So he took her phone
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and had her phone for about 10 to 15 minutes and,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you know, basically walked away from her and checking, oh yeah, checking, checking, checking. During,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you know what he was doing? He was going through
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: her messages and going through her photos in that 10
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to 15 minutes and videos and sending them to himself.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And apparently there was some compromising stuff on there.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he sent a video that she had done
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: for somebody. And he sent it to himself. Well, she's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: smart because, you know, when he left, everything was, she
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: just had this weird, that uncanny feeling like something wasn't right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: So she started going through her phone and saw that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the message that she had sent to somebody was deleted. Well, she,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he deleted it from the, I guess it was an
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: iPhone because when she went onto the cloud, iCloud, that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: message was still there.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Creepy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: She was able to track it down that it got
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: sent out to this guy. So they've arrested this guy
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and looks like he's going to probably do some kind
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of time or fine or whatever. But you got to
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: be really careful when you hand somebody your device. Something
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to think about. All right, coming up, we're going to
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: talk about AI. We're also going to talk about BlizzCon.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: We talked about that last week. We're going to find
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: out more about what that was all about. With more
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of Tech Talk Radio, I'm Andy Taylor.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I'm Sean DeWard. You can find us on the web, techtalkradio.com.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: And now, back to Tech Talk Radio.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: This past Friday and Saturday was BlizzCon.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: BlizzCon.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: What is BlizzCon?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: So for those of you who don't know what BlizzCon is,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: it's a almost semi-annual or annual... It's almost annual every year.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Almost annual every year.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: It's almost every year they do a product showcase for
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: what they're working on, new games development, et cetera, et cetera.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Et cetera.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: If you think about it too, Sean, am I right?
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: E3 is gone.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: It has been for a long time.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, E3 used to be the thing you'd go to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: For games and everything else, we've been... Really, the only big.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: One is Game Awards now.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Or GamesCon in Germany.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Or BlizzCon.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Or BlizzCon.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: But BlizzCon is just focused on Blizzard games, right? So
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: they had been hyped up about potentially what they were
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: going to be releasing and some speculation from fans, etc.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: And some of those were true. Some of them did
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: not get discussed at all, which was interesting. But the
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: big one was the announcement of World of Warcraft Forever,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: which is a terrible name, by the way.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Basically, it's the vanilla era game, like when it was
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: released in 2004, with a new spin, some new areas,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: some new zones, some new class features, some new races,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: some et cetera. So, That was the big excitement. They
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: announced Diablo 5, so a new version of the Diablo franchise,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: but not until 2029, I think. And then one of
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the biggest surprises was they announced a new open-world shooter
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: for StarCraft, which they haven't had a StarCraft announcement for
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: like a decade.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: But then at the end of the trailer, it was like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: coming in 2030. And everyone's like, oh.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Why so long? Why so long?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. So that got a lot of
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: hype around it. The cinematic trailer looks fantastic. It's in development,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: which is cool. I think one of the biggest surprises
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: for me was they launched a new expansion for Warcraft 3,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: which came out back in the late two thousands.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: So like 2000, I was in high school still. So 2005,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: maybe 2006. Um, so a new canoe content for that game,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: which has been pretty popular.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Um, but people are.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Still playing that or it's.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Going, they remastered it a couple of years ago.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: And so this is content for the new remastered version.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Um, it's called, how would you describe for somebody who
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't play a lot of games? How would you describe
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: looking at world of Warcraft?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: World of Warcraft, it's an open world, massively multiplayer online MMO.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: So you're playing with millions of other people around the world.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: It's basically a fantasy action RPG set in a massive
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: world where you play with a bunch of other people.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. All right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: So they go through and you're playing along with them
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and maybe battling them? Does that happen as well?
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: You can play against each other or you can play
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: against the game itself. There's some different modes. But yeah,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: so BlizzCon, it's something I've been... If you think back
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: to the number of times I've talked about it over
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the show, I've been doing the show since what now?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: 2014?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a long time.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: BlizzCon's been happening since 2005?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: 2006, maybe?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Almost every year.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: They did BlizzCon in Anaheim.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And I knew the only place it's been that the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: whole time it's always.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Been their headquarters is right near Disney.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: All right. And I, I, I saw a video where
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a guy was there and I thought, wait, is Sean
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: going to Anaheim? Is Sean going to be at BlizzCon?
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Have you ever actually been able to go or?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: No, I never. So when I, so remember how I said,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: remember how I said they almost do it every year.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: They didn't do it in 2012.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: The year I lived in San Diego.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: And I didn't live there in 2011 because I hadn't
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: moved out there yet. And then they didn't do it
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: until way later in the year 2013. So I was
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: only in San Diego just under two years. And so
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't get to go. So the two chances I
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: had to go, they didn't have it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: But you said you and Caitlin actually watched this event?
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: So I was at work. So Caitlin has no interest
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: in this.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: This is something that me and the guys I play
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: with have been playing video games with. Log on or
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I would have the... Over the years, I used to
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: have a BlizzCon watching party because you can stream it live.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: So we'd get pizza and play games or board games
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: or whatever.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: That just screams nerd.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: It's basically like you watch these announcements and you have
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: a big LAN party.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: That's good though.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: So this year I couldn't afford to because it fell
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: on our first home game. First football game. So the announcement...
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: started at 1.30 Eastern. And our football game started at 3.30 Eastern.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: So we're all set up, ready to go. We're just
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: kind of waiting for things to get going. And and
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I'm have the screen up on my laptop. Like I've
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: got a multi-screen set up from all my stuff. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: need you for, can I have my laptop sitting next
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: to me? And I'm kind of one earbud in listening
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: to the opening announcements. And somebody comes and puts their
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: hands on my shoulder. Like just to say, Hey, it's, it's,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: it's my boss. And he was saying like, trying to
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: get my attention and I really wasn't like paying attention
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: and then he kind of like makes sure I have
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: and then he's like hey I just want to introduce
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: you to the new CIO of OIT oh boy and
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: so I stand up and turn around and she's standing
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: there it's like our new boss is like the new
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: director of our whole program and you're watching and I'm
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: just watching BlizzCon so.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I'm doing research.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, she has to expect that, right? She's
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: office of basically the IT department for the university. She
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: has to expect that there's a bunch of nerds, right? So,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: it was funny and, you know, but I had to
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: intermittently watch and not try to be spoiled by things
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: before I could watch it again because I was actively
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: trying to do work while trying to watch at the
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: same time. But, yeah, over the years I've had BlizzCon
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: watch parties where we've just gotten together, ordered pizza or
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: food or whatever and played games and had a LAN party.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Now at the BlizzCon event, you would find people that
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: sell products that are based on the Blizzard titles as well.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, shirts, you know, other like third-party games. Would
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you find stuff like that?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: There's no third-party games. You had a lot of, you
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: had a lot of streamers, a lot of video game
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: streamers that were part of this industry, part of this
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: genre that were big there. But you could buy, yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: they have merch everywhere. You can buy all sorts. I mean,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: it's like any other big title. Right.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: No, that's cool.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: But the new version of World of Warcraft, World of
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Warcraft Forever, is releasing November 7th.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: This year.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: This year. Another big title that's coming before GTA 6.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, there was another title
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that we saw recently.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: The Ocarina of Time remake is launching on November 5th.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: What am I going to do?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: This is going to be a big holiday season for
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: gamers that are, I mean, you've got pretty much everything
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you want there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I can't imagine that everybody's trying to
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: find space in between GTA six for their titles.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: So, right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I, that's going to be, it's going to be
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Now, if, Somebody wanted to go to BlizzCon.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: What do they have to do?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: If they do one next year? There's only so many
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: tickets available. You basically have to get into a lottery
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: and try to get tickets. I think you could have
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: bought them up leading up to it this year, but
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: it's a couple hundred bucks for a ticket, and then
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: you've got to get to California.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Say somebody's listening right now, and they're thinking, World of Warcraft.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe they've never played it. They've got a Windows 10 machine,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: or they've got a Mac, I don't know if you
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: can play it on a Mac.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: You can.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Pretty sure you can. And they want to get into it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: What should they start with? I mean, I loved Diablo.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Diablo was awesome. But what should they start with?
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: If you're interested in World of Warcraft, you can actually
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: just go to the Blizzard website, download the Battle.net launcher.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: You can play for free up to a certain level.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So you can just download a basic version of the
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: game and get an experience up to level 20, I think.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: See if you like it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: See if you like it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: There's, you're going to be overwhelmed by the number of
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: options available to you in terms of which version of
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: the game you want to play because they released a,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: you know, it's re they, they have to kind of
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: two versions. They have the classic era, which is like
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: how it was when it was released in 2004. Right.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: And they're building on that concept. Then there's what they
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: call retail, which is the story has continued through all
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: the expansions all the way up to, uh, we're now
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: with it. Like the, it's called, uh, world. It's, World
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: of Warcraft, the Midnight Saga, and we're in the War Within.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: There's all these expansions and stuff like that. So the
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: story has continued.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Has there been a movie or a series?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: There was a Warcraft movie made in 2015, I think.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: It was good.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I thought it was really good. And they did, oh,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that was another thing they announced at BlizzCon, is they're
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: doing a Diablo animated series on Netflix.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, that'll be kind of neat.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: That'll be good. It seems like Netflix, I don't know
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: about you, but, uh, they seem to be really understanding
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the gamer crowd and doing stuff. And now they're even,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you know, creating games that you could play on Netflix,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: not those games of boggle and stuff like that. Yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I saw some of those games and I have to
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: skip by that whole row every time. And it's annoying.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I don't want to play games on Netflix. That's not
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: what I'm on Netflix for.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: But a lot of the content though is geared at gamers.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Gamers or YouTube, YouTube, Right, so YouTube came out six
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: weeks ago or so and basically said, hey, we're changing
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: how we're monetizing people's YouTube channels.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Because they're trying to stop the bleed from Netflix. So
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: the big creators that have jumped ship from YouTube to Netflix,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Miss Rachel.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Danny Go. And these are all content creators that are
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: doing family generated content, right? Family content, content that my
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: kids are watching.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Wait, so Miss Rachel started on YouTube?
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was a YouTube streamer.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Now she's exclusively on Netflix. Her content still gets to YouTube,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: but it's not.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want people to think I watch Miss Rachel.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: When my grandson was here, I would watch it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: So you have these, then Netflix is paying out their
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: behind to get exclusivity for these streamers. So they gain
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: all this popularity from YouTube. And are making a decent
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: amount of money. But then Netflix comes and says, well,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: here's a blank check, basically. Yeah. And so YouTube is
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to stop that from happening.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I feel like it's like in the
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: days of news when you would jump ship to go
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: from a mid-level market to a major market.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So the advice is go to Blizzard's official website.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Blizzard.com.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Blizzard.com. you know you could download and try it out
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and they've got like and they don't.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Just have world of warcraft stuff right they've got they've
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: got tons of john they have diablo starcraft overwatch hearthstone
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: uh diablo 2 remastered if you're interested into arpgs they've
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: got plus so they also got bought by activision two
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: years ago so they have all the call duties a
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: bunch of those those the activision games activision blizzard games
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: so Really? Yeah. And then they got bought by Activision,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and then Activision got bought by Microsoft. So technically Blizzard
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: is a subsidiary of Microsoft.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's kind of neat. All right, so they can
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: check it out there, download it, give it a shot.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Real quick, I wanted to get your thoughts on this
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: about AI. We're hearing a lot in the media about AI,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and I don't know where this came from. It came
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: from left field. You had that Huggerface incident. Most people
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: who have experienced with AI and started to play around
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: with it have used ChatGPT, have used Gemini, have used Anthropic, Claude,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: or even Grok. And they've used it just for helping
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: them do something, do an assignment, learn something, whatever. This
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: is a different kind of AI.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It's like we've seen this before.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where did we see it?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: SkyNet.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a movie called Terminator 2. Terminator, yes, Skynet.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, any.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: How? I mean, there's any war games movie or whatever
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: that's been doom and gloom.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you, the idea of guardrails, your thoughts,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: are they important?
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course they are.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: But like any technology, somebody's going to push the boundaries
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: and do something stupid.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: It's only a matter of time. I mean, realistically, I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: think in the next five to 10 years, we're going
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: to be dealing with That's going to be the next major,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: it's not going to be power. It's going to be
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: an internet outage.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: That's going to cripple a lot of so many industries
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: is the internet outage.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And then what happens? Yeah, we've been there. You've tried
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to get something done.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, everything works on the internet now. That's just
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the way it is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. If a credit card service
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: goes down, it's happened last year, two years ago, whatever.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Half of the UK and half of some of the
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: US couldn't process credit card transactions. What happens when you're
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: at the store and their service goes down because their
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: cloud provider quit or their credit card machines quit working
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: and you go to pay?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: You got to whip out your checkbook. Who carries cash?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Who carries checkbooks anymore?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Who carries checkbook, right?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. All right, listen, we got to take
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a break. Coming up, we've got a really special guest
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: for the show.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is such a good interview.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Scott Soto is a vocalist with Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: He was with Journey for a year. They just played
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: this past week in Phoenix. Jeff's a great guy. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I've talked to him before in my morning radio career
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: over the years in rock and roll. And Jeff's going
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to tell us a little bit about TSO, what you
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: can expect of their show. Have you ever been to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: one of their shows?
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God, it's amazing.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: They are fantastic. And now they're using drones, using all
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: kinds of great stuff. The tickets are on sale now
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: for the presale opened up yesterday. So you can check
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: those out. But again, we're going to talk with Jeff
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Scott Soto. That's coming up next on Tech Talk Radio.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I'm Andy Taylor.
• 39:40
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• 39:43
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• 39:44
  Speaker 2: And now.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Back to Tech Talk Radio.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Hey, guys.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: This is Al Petrelli from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Normally, I'm not a nerd, but I am with Tech
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Talk Radio.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: God bless.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Stay safe.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Tech Talk Radio. I'll tell you, every
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: year around this time, we start getting ready for the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: big show. And I know during the holidays, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: we go into holiday music mode here at the station,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and we have a lot of fun with some of
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the standards that we play. But we get so many
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: requests for Trans-Siberian Orchestra. And over the years, I've had
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak to the late Paul O'Neill, Al Petrelli,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and of course, Jeff Scott Soto. And we're happy to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: have Jeff here to talk about the excitement of TSO
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and what it takes to put it all together. Jeff,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: great to see you.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: It's my pleasure. And I got to tell you, if
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: you ever put the power station back together, need a singer?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, man.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I can run the local club in Mayberry, R.T. if
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you need to.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do, you know, ballads with Aunt Bea.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: That would be great.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I love it. Andy Taylor, it's a privilege and honor
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: to be here. Thanks for having me. Thanks, man.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you. You know, I remember when,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we first heard about TSO, Trans-Siberian Orchestra, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I remember us thinking, a rock and roll show, TSO,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: how is that going to work? Now, you joined the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: band in about 2008, you know, performing with it. What
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: were your thoughts when you first heard about this idea
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of doing, you know, just a rock and roll? Not
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: just a show. It's an experience, right?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's a long story.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: It goes way back to 1990 when I first met
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: our musical director Al Petrelli.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And we were on tour together.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Well, not together, but we ended the tour at the
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: same show together. We met in Broke Bread that day.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: We've been friends ever since. But because of the distance,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: he lives back east. I live in the west coast.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: We don't see each other that often. But when we do,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: we catch up and we talk about everything. I love
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: telling this story. I ran into Al at a wedding,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: a mutual friend's wedding. I hadn't seen him in a
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: pack of years. Hey, you know, naturally, what are you
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: up to? What are you doing?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And he starts explaining TSO. This is 2001.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: So it was still, it was at the embryonic stages
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: of them taking it to the live stage. I think
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: it'd only been a couple of years that they'd been
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: doing it already. But by then I think they already
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: split the band into the East Coast and the West
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Coast production. So he's trying to explain, yeah, we mix
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: classical music and Christmas songs with hard rock guitars. We
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: wear tuxedos, but everybody has long hair.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, What?
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I swear, if somebody were filming me or taking a photo,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I'm sure I look like I was looking at him like.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: He had three heads.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Because when I walked away, I was like, good luck
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: with that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Sounds like it's going to be a.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Disaster just because how do you put those worlds together
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: and make it resonate for people to actually want to
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: come see it year after year after year? But man,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: when I saw it, when I heard of it, Al
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: called me in 2007, just literally 48 hours after my
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: exit from the band Journey. And he didn't know I
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: was out of Journey, but he just called me out
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: of the blue and said, hey, remember that TSL thing
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I told you about? My boss, Paul O'Neill, founder and
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: creator of it all. He wants to meet you. We
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: tried out every singer. Everybody we can think of. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I told him about you. And he wants to know
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: if he'd be interested in flying out. And I just
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: lost Journey. Of course I want to meet Paul O'Neill.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Of course I want to see what DSL is all about.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: And that's where it all started for me. I went
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: to Tampa and I came home two months later because
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: we were working on the Nightcastle album.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Jeff, when you think of rock and roll, you think
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: about the guitars, bass, the whole bit. the idea of
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: suddenly cellos and, you know, all these other instruments as
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a part of it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I listen, when I listen to TSO, especially Christmas and cereal,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I just, I get goosebumps because it's like you combine
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: all the best elements of music into one great recording
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and great show.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: That's one thing Paul O'Neill, he mastered, the marriage between
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: classical and hard rock. A lot of people have done it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: They did it before TSO and they continue to do it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: But something about how it works for TSO music, because
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: we do have hard rock and heavy metal tendencies, It
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: never gets too heavy for even the older listeners or
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: the older attendees. We can play in front of ages
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: eight to 80 and there's nothing really offensive in terms
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: of it's too heavy or it's too light. You have,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: it's a family show in that respect, but it's more
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: a show for the ages and the ages are so widespread.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: And that's, I think that's what gives TSO such a,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like an oxygen tank. It's just constantly
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: full of energy, full of oxygen in terms of, what
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: they give to us and what we give back to them.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You know, they're celebrating what TSO is celebrating its 30th
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: year this year. And I mean, that's amazing. Being on
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: tour with TSO, has the technology changed a lot in
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: putting on the show? I mean, because now, I mean,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: let's face it, where we've gone in 30 years with
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: pyrotechnics and lighting and all of these other effects that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: are available. Have you seen it? And does that make
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: performing sometimes a little distracting?
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Yes and no. Yes, I've seen it.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: And like I keep saying, I've been here for, this
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: will be my 18th year touring with them consecutively. It'd
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: be 17 years playing in Arizona with them because we
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: missed one year because of the pandemic. Even though we
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: still did our show, it was a remote thing that
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: everybody streamed, but yeah. Coming every year, I look back
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: to some of those earlier shows, and as massive and
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: unbelievable as the production was then, every year I go
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: in and we do some new toys.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: You have drones. We had a bubble.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: We had a big bubble that one of our singers'
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: dancers was singing and performing inside of. To see all
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: the different things that we've utilized in the TSO show
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: and watch it grow and resonate within the storylines.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: It's mind-blowing to me.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: To this day, I don't know what to expect when
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: we get to rehearsals. So I'm going to be as
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: shocked as everybody else when they see it on opening
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: night is going to be.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing too, Jeff. I'm sure you've got
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: people that went with their parents or grandparents when they
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: were five. and now they're 35 taking their kids. That's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: got to be kind of cool to be a part of.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: To me, this is my version of being in a
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: band like the Rolling Stones or Metallica, the ones that
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: have been around for 30, 40, 50 years. This is
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: my version of that, because exactly as you said, I've
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: been with TSO two-thirds of the lifespan of the band.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: They started 30 years ago, and I'm going on 20 years.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I've been with them, so Seeing exactly what you said,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: a little whippersnapper is coming down the signing line that
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: we do after every evening show. We do a general
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: public signing line. You see these little kids that are
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: so enamored and they love what the show is all about.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Some of them actually were inspired to pick up an instrument.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: That to us is us giving back. That's our version
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: of giving back what we're getting from the audience is
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: that we're influencing the next wave of musicians. And giving
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: back also has to do with the ticket sales. We
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: give a dollar for every ticket sold back to the
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: local charity in your community. And we've been doing that
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: since the inception. And we continue doing that as Paul's
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: vision was about giving back as much as we're able
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to continue doing what we do because of the people.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I know I looked at the recent numbers for this
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and it's like 20 million bucks. that TSO has been
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: able to raise for communities that performed in it. And
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: that's just amazing. Yeah.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: My favorite part of that number is that's the number
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: of tickets we've sold since this whole thing started. To
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: be able to say you're in a group that sold
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: over 20 million tickets within the course of the band's history,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: it's just mind-boggling.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Was there a concern, Jeff, when Paul passed away? And again,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to talk to him near the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: beginnings of this, that it was just going to kind
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: of just end soon. Uh, or, you know, did Al
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: just pick it up and just run with it, you know,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and say.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Of course there was that concern. And I personally always
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: felt it's, it means it would mean more to Paul
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: to keep it going. So it's important for us to
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: keep that vision, the way he said it does keep
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: everything within the focus of what he wants this thing
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: to be seen and heard as. And from that, We
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: know that the powers that be, whether it be the
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: O'Neill family that are still involved with us and even
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: management and everybody that makes this thing happen, as long
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: as we deliver what Paul wanted out of this show,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: I think it can continue going. And it's now at
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: this point we're paying homage to Paul O'Neill and what
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: he pulled together and gave us the opportunity to share
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: our holidays with everybody every year.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Doing a great job at it, too. Is there still
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the desire to get back in the studio and maybe
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: do more tracks for, you know, more recordings? Because, of course,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: being on the road, this is a crazy schedule you
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: guys have. It begins on the 19th of November. And it's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you get a show on the East Coast,
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  Speaker 1: a show on the West Coast. How do you decide, like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be a part of this show. And
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: then do you ever have to hop on a plane
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  Speaker 1: and travel to the East Coast to do a show?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Or anything like that?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in the West Coast band. There's an East Coast
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  Speaker 4: and a West Coast band. Even though the West Coast
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  Speaker 4: band we get as far as Florida, they're called the
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  Speaker 4: East Band because they primarily do the eastern portion of
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  Speaker 4: the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: We do the rest.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But that's how we're.
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  Speaker 4: Able to do two shows a day and do that
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  Speaker 4: many shows across the country during that small pocket, that
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  Speaker 4: small window of holiday dates that we can actually do
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  Speaker 4: these shows on.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that both bands are doing two shows in
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  Speaker 4: a day, you've got four shows a day, it adds
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  Speaker 4: up to being able to go to so many different
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  Speaker 4: markets where one band alone wouldn't be able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Do it. There's no way.
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  Speaker 1: Man. So do you think there'll be more recordings? Will
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: we see more stuff that will be available?
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  Speaker 4: One thing about Paul O'Neill, I equated him to somebody
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  Speaker 4: like Eddie Van Halen or even Prince. They always, always
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: had new music, always had things in the can, always
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  Speaker 4: had things in the shelves. There's a few things that
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  Speaker 4: they were working on, we were working on before Paul passed.
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  Speaker 4: I would love to see that stuff finally come out.
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  Speaker 4: And because the writing team of that Paul was working
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  Speaker 4: with back then is still intact, there's always a possibility
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: of doing new TSO material. But again, it has to
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  Speaker 4: be within the vision of what Paul O'Neill had because
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: we don't want to change something that it's proven that
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: it's worked, but we don't want to change it out
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  Speaker 4: of our loyalty to Paul and his family.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, you know, when somebody has never
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: been to a TSO show, and I have been, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: They don't get like, here's this song, here's that song, here's, oh,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: here's a favorite song. They actually get a story. They're
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: watching almost like a stage play, right?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: The first half of the show is more like a story,
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  Speaker 4: like a Broadway play in terms of a narrator and
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: the songs that we're doing coincide with whatever he's saying
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  Speaker 4: within the context of the story. The second half of
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: the show, however, is when we get to start blowing
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: stuff up. And that's where all the toys and doodads
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: come out and we get to really light up the stage.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: And that's where the band really gets to have fun.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: We do a lot of cool instrumentals and a lot
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: of eye candy and ear candy things. And it's impossible
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: to put this show into words.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to see it to experience it yourself.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody, you know, the pre-sale, those
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: tickets start on Friday the 18th, you know, until the
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: show airs until now. Definitely people want to check that out.
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  Speaker 1: Get those tickets. You know, because these events sometimes sell out, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to be in Phoenix. That's going to be,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: let's see, I got the 6th. It's Wednesday, the 6th
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  Speaker 1: of December.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to add two little tidbits to what
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: you were talking about tickets. First of all, very important, please,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: anybody looking for tickets, please go to TSOTickets.com. If you
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: forget this link, just find the official TSO page, Trans-Siberian
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  Speaker 4: Orchestra page. We'd rather you find your ticket there because
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of ticket gouging. If you're looking at
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: tickets $ 200 and $ 300 a piece, you're in the wrong
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: place because we don't gouge. We keep our tickets within
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: reason that you can bring the whole family out. It's
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: a family show, so we want to see families there,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: but we also don't want to break your bank because
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: times are tough. We want to make sure that you
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: guys are able to come to the show and enjoy yourselves.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: without worrying about the ticket costs.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: And one more tidbit, tickets do go on sale on Friday,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: but anybody listening to this or watching this right now,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Thursday's a pre-sale. You're getting a little sneak preview to
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: get your tickets before the general public on Friday.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Jeff, thank you so much for coming on and telling
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: us about TSO and Trans-Siberian. Again, tickets on sale. You've
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: heard it from Jeff. Got to get them. Thank you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: so much. And, you know, continued success. And it's going
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: to be a great Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
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  Speaker 2: Always look forward to it.
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  Speaker 4: It's just right after the hometown show, we always get
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: to Arizona.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: So always looking forward to it.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Once again, those tickets are on sale now. The show
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: is happening on Sunday, December 6th at the Mortgage Matchup
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Center in Phoenix. Two shows are going to be happening,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: one at 3 p.m., the other at 7.30 p.m. Now,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: the place to get those tickets is trans-siberian.com. And if
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: you've never seen a TSO show, it's pretty amazing stuff.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I want to thank Jeff Scott Soto for coming on
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the show and telling us all about that. Again, trans-siberian.com.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Stand by.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: We'll check back in with Sean. And we've got an
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: important link for you. If you take care of kids,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: you have kids, grandkids, the Arizona Department of Public Safety, ACDPS,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: has put out some really great tips of those devices
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that the kids are using and some safety tips that
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you definitely want to know about. So hang out for that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: We'll share some of those and where to get that information.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Coming up with Sean and I, back with more of
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Tech Talk Radio. And be sure to check us out
• 53:22
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• 53:24
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• 53:28
  Speaker 5: And now, back to Tech Talk Radio.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I wanted to share something I saw, Sean, that I
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: thought was pretty important. And I know every state is
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: doing differently. We have listeners that are all over the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: United States. Here in Arizona, the Arizona Department of Public
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Safety issued this about online predators. Stranger danger went digital.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: There's a lot that us parents or grandparents don't understand
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: or don't know when it comes to online predators. How
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: do they connect with a child? What things are they saying?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: What things are they doing? Let's face it, our kids
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: could be targets. The idea is know the apps, know
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the risks, and know the signs. If they're using devices,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: know these things. And the way to find out these
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: things is you go on the web, You go to azdps.gov
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: forward slash kid safe. Take a look at it as
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a parent. And also they rely on that information. If
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: your child has been approached by somebody online, you want
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: to make sure, you know, you get that information out. 1-877-4AZ-TIPS, T-I-P-S. azdps.gov
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: forward slash kid safe. We'll put that link on our
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: website as well.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that we're looking at. very serious. I mean,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: and Justin does too. With Eric being eight years old,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Max and Daniel are going to have a digital life
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: very soon. We're trying to figure out how to navigate that.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think as parents, we can't just put a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: tablet in their hand and give them free reign. I've
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: seen my grandson with a tablet and I've seen, you know,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: all the different places where I was there so I
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: could see, you know, and YouTube and this and that.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: But even that path could be dangerous depending on where
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: they go out from there. So check that website out.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: That's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio. It went
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: by really fast.
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  Speaker 5: It did.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: We want to thank Jeff Scott Soto for coming on.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Please subscribe, follow, do all that fun stuff and check
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: out some of our short videos that we post. Hopefully
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: we'll find some stuff there that you will like. In
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: the meantime, thank you for listening. I'm Andy Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Sean DeWard. Have a great week.