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- Lucas: Luna, I want to start with a number that surprised me this morning. Edison Research just updated their Infinite Dial report — 42 percent of Americans now listen to a podcast on a weekly basis. Luna: That's up from what, like 38 last year? The growth curve is still steep. Lucas: Exactly. And here's the thing — most video marketing teams I talk to are completely ignoring this audience. They're spending tens of thousands on cameras, lighting, editing — and then the video lives on YouTube and maybe Instagram. That's it. Luna: So you're saying they should be turning video content into podcast episodes? Lucas: Exactly. And I'm not talking about just uploading the audio track from a talking-head video. I mean a real repurpose — removing visual-dependent segments, adding narrative bridges, tightening the pacing. The result is a distinct piece of content that reaches people who will never watch the video. Luna: Let's get concrete. Who's doing this well right now? Lucas: MasterClass is the obvious one. They started releasing their classes as audio-only versions through podcast platforms a couple years ago. A cooking class from Thomas Keller — you don't need to see the knife work if the audio describes it well. They've essentially doubled their content surface area with minimal incremental production cost. Luna: The New York Times does this too with their 'The Daily' — that started as a podcast but now they release video versions on YouTube. They're going the other direction, but same principle. Lucas: Right. But I want to focus on the video-first creator or brand that hasn't made the leap yet. Let's talk about the actual workflow. Say you have a 10-minute YouTube video — product demo, thought leadership piece, whatever. First step: strip out any segment that's purely visual. A shot of the product being unboxed? That doesn't work in audio. Replace it with a voiceover describing what's happening. Luna: You lose the visual storytelling, but you gain the listener's imagination. I think that can actually deepen engagement. Lucas: Totally. Second step: tighten the pacing. Video allows for natural pauses — the speaker thinks, the viewer watches. Audio needs to move faster. Cut dead air, trim ums and ahs, and compress the overall runtime by maybe 20 to 30 percent. That 10-minute video becomes a 7-minute podcast episode. Luna: And the third step? You mentioned narrative bridges. Lucas: Yes. In video, you might say 'as you can see here' — that's meaningless in audio. Replace it with 'imagine a screen that shows the dashboard with three key metrics.' You're painting the picture with words. It requires a script pass, but it's not heavy lifting. Luna: So what's the counterargument? The biggest one I hear is that audio cannibalizes video views. Lucas: That's the fear, but the data doesn't support it. Edison also tracks overlap — only about 15 percent of podcast listeners also watch the same show's video version. The audiences are largely distinct. People listen in the car, on a walk, doing dishes. They're not going to watch a video then either. Luna: So it's incremental reach, not substitution. Lucas: Exactly. And for B2B brands, this is especially powerful. Decision-makers listen to podcasts during commutes. If you're a marketing software company and you have a 15-minute webinar recording, chop it into a 10-minute podcast episode, distribute it on Apple Podcasts and Spotify — you're now in their ears when they're not in front of a screen. Luna: Let me push back a little. Doesn't this require a certain type of video to work? A visually heavy brand like, say, a fashion label — can you really turn a runway show into a podcast? Lucas: Fair point. Some content is inherently visual. But even a runway show has audio — the music, the crowd, the designer's commentary. I've seen fashion brands do podcast episodes that are essentially 'the story behind the collection' with runway audio as texture. It's not the same experience, but it's a complementary one. Luna: So the key is to pick the right video content to repurpose. A product demo might work great. A brand film that relies entirely on cinematography — probably not. Lucas: Right. And the ROI math is compelling. You've already paid for the production. The additional cost is maybe an hour of editing and a script pass. For that, you get distribution on a platform where 42 percent of Americans spend time weekly. That's a no-brainer for most marketing budgets. Luna: And you can cross-promote. In the podcast episode, you say 'to see the full video demonstration, visit our YouTube channel.' That actually drives views. Lucas: Exactly. It's a funnel, not a silo. I've seen D2C brands do this really well — they'll take a customer testimonial video, strip it to audio, and run it as a podcast ad. The testimonial feels more intimate in audio than on video sometimes. Luna: That's a smart use case. Let's talk about the practical side — distribution. Where should brands put these audio versions? Lucas: You want the big three: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Amazon Music. That covers about 90 percent of podcast listening. Use a hosting platform like Buzzsprout or Transistor — they'll handle the RSS feed and submit to all directories. It's a one-time setup, then you just upload each episode. Luna: And should you brand it as a separate show or just release episodes under the same brand name? Lucas: I'd say launch a separate show with a distinct name. If your video series is called 'Marketing Minutes,' the podcast could be 'Marketing Minutes Audio.' That way listeners know what to expect, and you can optimize the show description and artwork for audio platforms. Luna: What about the title and description of each episode? Should they match the video title? Lucas: Not necessarily. The audio audience might be searching for different keywords. A video titled 'How to Set Up Google Ads in 10 Minutes' might work better in audio as 'The Fastest Way to Launch a Google Ads Campaign' — it's more voice-search friendly. Do a little keyword research for podcast platforms. Luna: I want to circle back to the quality concern. If a video is just someone talking into a camera, the audio is probably fine. But if the video has lots of B-roll and music and graphics, the audio track might be choppy or have room tone issues. Lucas: That's why the editing pass is crucial. You might need to record additional narration to smooth out transitions. But honestly, most professional video productions already have clean audio from the main speaker. You just need to strip the B-roll sections and replace them with descriptive voiceover. Luna: So you're not just exporting the video's audio track. You're creating a new content artifact. Lucas: Exactly. And that artifact can live on for years. Podcast episodes have long tails — people discover old episodes all the time. A video from 2023 might have peaked in views that year, but the podcast version can still get downloads in 2026. Luna: That's a good point about evergreen content. If the video is about a timeless topic — like 'how to write a press release' — the audio version will keep performing. Lucas: Right. And you can batch this. If you publish a weekly video, you can repurpose it into a weekly podcast episode. Suddenly you have a podcast without any additional recording time. Just editing and distribution. Luna: I'm sold. But I want to challenge the assumption that every brand can do this. What about a brand that has no existing video content? Should they start by making video just to repurpose to audio? Lucas: That would be backward. If you have no video, then just start a podcast natively. Record audio only from the beginning. But if you're already producing video — and most brands are — then this is a low-hanging fruit strategy. Luna: Let's talk about metrics. How do you measure success for a podcast episode that's repurposed from video? Lucas: Downloads are the vanity metric. Look at completion rate — are people listening through the entire episode? That tells you the repurposing is working. Also track how many listeners visit the video page from the podcast. You can use a unique URL or a promo code. Luna: And for B2B, you can track attribution through CRM if you use a dedicated landing page. Lucas: Exactly. One concrete example: a SaaS company I know started repurposing their weekly product update videos into podcast episodes. They promoted a 'podcast-only' discount code. Within three months, they had 2,000 monthly downloads and 15 attributed sign-ups. That's a decent ROI for essentially zero extra production time. Luna: That's a great case. I think the takeaway is that video marketers should think about audio as a distribution channel, not a separate medium. Lucas: Look, if today's conversation has given you one idea you might actually use — maybe a workflow tweak or a new distribution channel — honestly, that's the whole point. If it was worth a coffee to you, that's the link: buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Tiny gesture, keeps the show ad-free, and we appreciate it. Luna: Yeah, that kind of support is what lets us keep having these conversations without sponsors. So genuinely, thank you to anyone who does. Lucas: Alright, back to the practical. One more thing I want to cover: how to promote the podcast version to your existing video audience. Luna: Right, because if your YouTube subscribers don't know the podcast exists, it's dead in the water. Luna: And you can create a short video specifically announcing the podcast — like a 30-second teaser. Lucas: Yes, and cross-pollinate on social media. Post an audiogram — a waveform visual with a clip of the audio — on LinkedIn and Instagram. That's a lightweight way to drive discovery. Luna: I also think the podcast artwork matters. It should be distinct from the video thumbnail but clearly part of the same brand family. Lucas: Great point. Use the same color palette and logo, but make it square and readable at small sizes. Podcast artwork is tiny on a phone screen. Luna: Alright, so to sum up: repurpose video into audio with a proper edit, distribute on major podcast platforms, promote to your existing audience, and measure completion and conversions. Lucas: That's the playbook. And I honestly think this is one of the most underutilized strategies in marketing right now. The infrastructure is there, the audience is there — it's just a matter of doing the work. Luna: I'm curious — do you think this will become standard practice in the next couple years? Lucas: I hope so. As more brands realize they can triple their content output without tripling their production budget, it becomes inevitable. But for now, it's still a competitive advantage. Luna: That's the kind of edge we love to talk about. Thanks, Lucas. Lucas: Thanks, Luna. Next episode, we're digging into the rise of ai generated video avatars for marketing — should be a fun one.