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LIVE Q&A w/ J.J. Carrell: Venezuelan Gangs, Child Trafficking, Border Crisis, MAGA Camps & More · Man in America Podcast

• 1:30
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. And we have a very special guest to do a live q and a today, which I'm very excited for. But before we jump into that, what we're gonna be talking about today is the bigger picture of the repercussions of what happens when we open our border and let anybody walk in and invite them to walk in and and allow criminal governments to release their prisons and let them to walk in. So what we're looking at happening in America right now is the domino effect of what's happening on the border.
• 2:09
  So, two nights ago, I did a live show covering what's happening in Aurora, Colorado, where a handful of, you know, apartment complexes were basically taken over by Venezuelan gangs. And this is a particular Venezuelan gang, which is a it's a very serious international crime syndicate. It's not some local gang banger. This is a, you know, like an MS thirteen scale gang. But it wasn't just Aurora.
• 2:34
  We also saw robberies. We had, you know, jewelry store robberies in Denver because, you know, Aurora is a suburb of of Denver. So we saw the whole city being affected by this and just so happens to be that it was a sanctuary city. So they welcomed a lot of these, illegals to come in, and now they're dealing with it. And so we've also got reports, you know, as of the the evening of that show that there's some potential activity in Chicago, a 911 calling in talking about, I think it was 32 different, armed Venezuelans potentially taking over an apartment building, and we're seeing it now spread across The United States.
• 3:10
  And so my guest today, JJ Carroll, was a border agent for over two decades. He absolutely understands what's happening on the border, but he also understands what's going on in America. And so he's, you know, right in the process of very close to launching a phenomenal documentary, which we're talking about, which is he's been going across the nation looking at how this, these illegal immigrants are affecting city by city and what the big picture is. Because I think there's a lot of folks that are thinking, okay. If this is already happening and it's spreading in different cities, sanctuary cities and non sanctuary cities, how long is it before this happens in my own town?
• 3:52
  Is my town safe? There's a lot of questions that we're gonna be getting into. Also, just a reminder for folks that if you have any questions at all, especially if you're watching on Rumble, where we're I'm gonna be focusing more on the comments on Rumble to support the platform. Put your questions in the comments because I'll be asking them. So this is a live q and a, you know, with the guests.
• 4:12
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• 4:28
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• 4:46
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• 4:56
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• 5:14
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• 5:35
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• 5:54
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• 6:18
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• 6:38
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• 6:56
  I appreciate you making the time for us tonight. Thank you for being here.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me. I'll always do it. Anytime you call here, I love talking to you and and the way that you give me the wide berth to to be able to articulate in-depth what's happened to America through illegal immigration. So thank you.
• 7:13
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, absolutely. So, okay, let's just let's take, like, a a the big picture look of what's going on here. Right? You and I have been warning in our interviews for quite some time saying, look. It's only a matter of time before the realistically, the terror cells, whether they're, you know, gang cells, whether they're, you know, army, you know, Chinese military or whatever it is, terrorists, you know, from Middle East, all these people that have been allowed across the border and are setting up camp in our country that we've been saying it's only a matter of time before this gets activated.
• 7:48
  And I feel like what we're seeing now is the beginning of the activation of this. Right? Where right now, it's it's a few cities, but I my concern is that by the time we get to the election, it could be every major city because chaos is what allows them to change voting laws. It's what allows them to Mhmm. You know, postpone elections, whatever it is.
• 8:08
  So what are you seeing, though? And when you're watching the reports from Aurora or whatever it is, what's your assessment of what's currently happening specifically with these Venezuelan gangs here in America?
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the very first thing we have to talk about before we get into the Venezuelans is just let's get a state of the state of how many legal aliens we have in our nation. It is now it's not even disputed. It's openly discussed in congress, and the media does not push back. So you know this, Seth. When the media, the talking heads don't push back on something, you know it's true because they don't wanna get into it because they know if they get into it with with commentators like myself and you, we start citing data reports, left wing reports, and then we start piecing together and go, no, here's all our evidence.
• 8:53
  They're like, no, don't. Just everybody be quiet. Let's not talk about it. I want your audience to understand the number that people have come to understand and agree upon left and right is 45,000,000 illegal aliens in America. Forty Five Million.
• 9:09
  I believe the number is closer to 50, but I'll play their game. I know by the time Joe Biden leaves office, we'll surpass 50,000,000. That means one in six, one in six and a half residents in America is an illegal alien. And I can cite all kinds of data. I can cite studies.
• 9:26
  I can cite left wing studies, right wing, and it all comes to the same thing. About 15,000,000 illegal aliens in that country. And now you start diving down into that data, meaning what's happened in the last four years specifically. What has happened? Well, Joe Biden has arrested and released 12,000,000 people that he has shown in CBP data.
• 9:49
  He has also flown in that we know about, about a million people. Flown in illegally, like went down into foreign countries, put them on planes, flew them into America, released them into America and did not count them. Did not count them. So now we're at 13,000,000. That number really should be about 2,000,000 that they brought in making it more.
• 10:12
  Let's just play their game. And then they open border, meaning there's no border patrol agents working. I talked to all my guys. They're not working a lot. We call it the border, call the line.
• 10:22
  Another 15 to 18,000,000 have crossed. We're looking at 30,000,000. 30 million is not even arguing in the house of congress. They don't even argue. They just say, yeah, 30,000,000.
• 10:32
  So now let's look at the 12,000,000 out of the 30 that they have actual data on. You have over a million Venezuelans. Over a million Venezuelans. And it is already proven. Donald Trump has said it several times in his discussion, said it this past weekend.
• 10:51
  Even even left wing commentators agree. Yeah. Maduro emptied all of his prison and all of his insane asylums. They moved him into America. Let me just give you one data point.
• 11:03
  This is now two months old now. Murduro came out Venezuela and said we have the lowest murder rate in the last twenty two years. Why? Well, when you look at all the Venezuelan illegal aliens that are murdering Americans, you understand that they are all here. And now you see what you were talking about Aurora, Colorado and then Chicago.
• 11:25
  We're seeing the same thing replicated in Dallas, Texas today. The state of Connecticut is now warning like a state of emergency in Connecticut. So I'm telling you, as you just stated, Seth, we are going to see this spread like a cancer. It's already in America. Has it manifested yet and has it been documented yet?
• 11:49
  And that's the big question. No, it has not been documented yet.
• 11:54
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Actually here, I'll go ahead and pull this up. Here's a news article. This is about Connecticut, which is I I just found out about this, from you today. This is from September 1.
• 12:03
  It says let's see. Actually, no. This is actually sorry. This is Colorado here.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. Colorado?
• 12:09
  Seth Holehouse: Yep. Yep. The the officials okay. Of course, they're saying it hasn't happened, but if you go to look at Connecticut here, then you can see that there's all kinds of of news, again. So the question you know, one of the big questions that I have, is do you so my okay.
• 12:32
  So my assessment, right, is that there's some sort of broader plan, right, to bring in these different cells, you know, you could call them terror cells, right, or your threats, you know, threat cells, whatever it is. Right? I'd say that there's a hundred, you know, you know, kind of hardcore gang members that get, you know, come in and they they post up in a small little area of a city, that's a threat. So do you believe that this is coordinated in some way and that as we get closer to the election that we're gonna see increased levels of threats? And if so, what does that look like?
• 13:06
  What scale would you expect that to to be, you know, showing across America?
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: It's a great question. Right? And and I've been saying this for quite a while and and you as well, that we are going to see some type of civil unrest, something that's going to happen, and you could almost feel it beginning to materialize. You can you can sense it. I think a great place to get that kind of feeling is on x because it's so open now.
• 13:35
  And I am seeing and I have friends. Now I would call them friends and colleagues in in Chicago where I went and filmed. They're absolutely on the brink in Chicago. They're on the brink. You're looking at one bad shooting, one illegal alien in Venezuela and rape a a black resident, and it's gonna be a powder keg.
• 13:57
  It's gonna explode. It's exploding across America. What does that look like? Are the Democrats or the left, let's just maybe say the left, are they that evil that they would allow American citizens to die and and be tortured by gangs in order to retain power? Absolutely.
• 14:18
  Absolutely. And then when you look at let's look at you said terror groups. So let's let's maybe we need to enumerate, right, what we're talking about. 250,000 known terrorists called special interest aliens have been arrested and released into America in four years. Two hundred and fifty thousand.
• 14:35
  Millions, over a million Venezuelan, about anywhere from 500 to 700,000 illegal alienation, their prisons were emptied during the revolution. They're all here. 60 to 70% of every legal alien that crossed into our border is single adult military age man, mainly from Africa, the continent Africa and The Middle East. You have America is the most vulnerable it has ever been in her history. We have the enemy inside.
• 15:05
  We're not even talking about that. We need to add to that group. The Chinese PLA soldiers. And I'm talking to people that are in the military intelligence agencies are telling me, dude, JJ, it could be anywhere from 50 to like 120,000 PLA soldiers are here. They're here.
• 15:24
  So you go full circle with the question. Okay. If I know this and you know this and people that are in the business and we're piecing all together, the federal government knows this and they decided to do nothing. In fact, they decided to facilitate it and make it more effective to bring people in. Well, then the question has to be if you're intellectually curious at all, why?
• 15:50
  Why would your government do that? Well, one of the answers is because they want to fundamentally transform The United States Of America. Demographically, not demographic by race but by citizens versus non citizens. But we are looking Seth, there's a better chance than not that something horrific is going to happen in America in the next two to three months. Christopher Wray said there's more red flags today than there were before nine eleven.
• 16:18
  That should scare the hell out of everybody. But I don't know if it does, to be honest with you.
• 16:25
  Seth Holehouse: That's the hard part too is that if it does it yet for a lot of people, when will it? And that's the thing is I think there's a lot of folks that are still just skating through life and kind of oblivious. Right? Oh, look at the polls. Wow.
• 16:37
  Trump's up three points. And, oh, you know, like, they're just continuing with that. But I also think that there are a lot of people in America that are really paying attention and that are really concerned. And so I I've got a couple of questions that I wanna start with. We had a bunch of questions coming in.
• 16:56
  We there's still some more coming in. Just a reminder for everyone watching, let me know what your questions are. But so this is from this is from a Bettina on Telegram who says, thank you for asking if he thinks there are Venezuelan cells all over The US, and if he expects more of what's happening in Aurora and Chicago to affect other sanctuary cities, and what can be done if it happens?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a great question. And let me take you back about I'm a say it's about six weeks, two months ago. Brian Madden and I are going to film our documentary, and we're in Aurora, Colorado. Alright. It's summertime.
• 17:34
  It's about a hundred degrees right in in the valley, kind of roars, kind of flat and the sun's beating down. And we're going to interview someone and we're parked in a major intersection. And all of us, the the light goes red and we're all sitting there. And like that a dozen Venezuelan single adult males from 18 to 26 come out of nowhere with their squeegees and they start squeegeeing all the windows. They're wearing parkas, hoodies, they're gang members.
• 18:00
  I looked at Ryan, I'm driving, I look I look over the side and say, do you understand this is the beat, just the beginning? We'll hear about this this place in the next couple weeks. It will be an an invasion in Aurora. And he goes, you really think so? Go look around dude, this is the precursor to all the gangs and all the activity.
• 18:21
  This is the precursor to it all. So we watched that beginning, that little seed because once they get there, like if you're in any town America, Ohio, Wisconsin, Alabama, whatever, and you see somebody that should not be there, a group of people, they stand out. They don't speak English. They don't wear the same clothes. They don't do the same thing.
• 18:43
  They don't eat the same foods. Let me tell you, if you think that's the only family or the only small community, you're a fool. They're on the phone calling, saying, you won't believe what they're doing for us in Aurora. Come on. And then you watch that which is a May I knew this was gonna happen, but I it was interesting to watch the American public react to seeing Venezuelan gang members with long arm going door to door in apartment complexes and demanding rent and taking them over and everyone was shocked.
• 19:17
  I wasn't shocked. I expected it. I knew it was going to happen. When? I didn't know exactly but I knew soon And it's happening across America right now.
• 19:28
  This you and I are just talking about Venezuelan gangs. You got Mexican mafia. You got Russian mafia. You got you got Haitian gangs that that their their weapon of choice is machete and rape. And I need to talk about this too because I think this is important for everyone to understand.
• 19:51
  You let you let savages in your country. Stone cold killing savages that come from places that would shock the American person. They could never live in their world that they came from. They're bringing all of that over here and when they're sitting in our country and they see that we welcome them, we fed, clothed, medicated, gave them shelter, gave them cash while we're struggling And they look outwardly into America and they see extremely obese people. Men that think they can have babies and wear dresses.
• 20:31
  And I know exactly what they're saying. Why don't we just take what we want? We always took what we want in Venezuela or Haiti, and nobody had any money. They have money, why don't we just take what they have, what are they going to do, look at them, they look like giant wildebeest, they're sick, they're mentally ill, and know what they did, They're starting to take and not add a little bit at an industrial scale because I'm going to be honest with you. Okay.
• 21:01
  Outside of men like us and some biker gangs that maybe show up or some military people, they're going to win because they're willing to kill. You're not even willing to go vote. They're willing to come into your house with a long arm, thickening your faith, blow your head off to make a point to everyone else. Hey, I just killed JJ. Now does anybody else want to die or do you want to give me your money?
• 21:31
  Okay. We'll give you our money. Because Seth, who's coming to help you? The RORPD? Do you understand?
• 21:40
  I don't know what RORPD I need to look that up. What their total police forces? I would say maybe 500, maybe. Okay. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe a thousand, but I would say about 500 ish or maybe a little bit more.
• 21:56
  Maybe a thousand. So when you have days off, training, annual leave, sick leave, retirement, let's say you have a thousand officers.
• 22:07
  Seth Holehouse: Actually, it's
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You might.
• 22:09
  Seth Holehouse: Seven forty eight. So you're you're pretty spot
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: 48. Thank you. Yeah. Seven forty eight. So out of seven forty eight, because I used to do schedules as a supervisor.
• 22:17
  So now you have three shifts. You don't have one they're not working daylight hours. Maybe they have two shifts and they overlap. Right? So let's just say two shifts.
• 22:26
  With all the days off and stuff, you might have 50 officers on duty. Maybe a hundred max, a hundred. There's thousands of those people in your city. Let me give you example. When they reported about them taking over the apartment complexes, they were in a parking lot at 4,000 of them doing donuts, trashing the parking lot, ramming cars caused a complete societal chaos?
• 22:59
  Thousands of them. Where were the police? They can't handle it. They're overrun. They'll get killed.
• 23:08
  Let's say that they have out of 4,000 people, you had 500. That's that's a small number, 500 Venezuelan gang members, whatever, with long arms. 500 to your 100 on your best day on duty, a hundred. You lose. You get in a gunfight, you're done.
• 23:30
  So, ask yourself a bigger question. How does that look in five days, ten days, a year from now? No, you're done. Aurora is done. You don't understand yet Aurora, but your city is gone because all the other Venezuelans from around the country and waiting to come in, they're going to Aurora because they have their system set up.
• 23:57
  They have their family. They have their gangs. Everything is going up waiting for them as the the mayor and the moronic governor Polis from from Colorado that made their state a sanctuary state. I saw something today and it it caught my name. It caught my attention right off the bat.
• 24:15
  And it seemed like it was a former military guy, Seth. And he posted on X and he made a very, very great point. And one I've made and you've made. And it was about a minute long, but it was so fascinating to hear him say it. He said, all of you people in Aurora and cities like that, you're begging for men like me to come help you.
• 24:38
  Men like me that are MAGA, men like me that have been in military, men like me that have weapons and know how to use it. And he says, you tried to kill us. You tried to take, you took our jobs away. You wouldn't, you call us vile name because we wouldn't take a shot. You fired us from our jobs.
• 24:58
  Then we told you about illegal immigrants. You call it vile, vile Nazi name. And you expect me to come? I'm not coming. We're not coming.
• 25:09
  And he made one other great point. He said, If we come, we will not come in peace. We are going to obliterate them off the planet earth. And then what's gonna happen? Your police, your National Guard, and the federal government will come and put us in jail.
• 25:27
  So why? What's the incentive for me to come help you? There is none.
• 25:33
  Seth Holehouse: Crazy. I wanna hone in on one point that you made because I think it's really important. And I think that like, I I've done a lot of international travel. I still wanna do a lot more, but I know that there's a lot of Americans that have it. Right?
• 25:47
  Because America is so big. Right? You know, you can go to Right. Across the country, there's, you know, a hundred different vacation spots or, like, you know, hundred different countries. But a lot of times, we don't understand the other cultures very well or the the suffering or what it's like to grow up in the slums of India or, you know, in in the streets of of Brazil.
• 26:07
  Right? And these people, they know. Like, these they're hardened criminals. And so you talk about them coming into America and seeing what America is like. I mean, what what came to my mind is it's almost like the America we're so lucky that we've had peace here for so long.
• 26:27
  But it's almost like we've been living in a a cage, right, where in which is kinda kept out the bad animals, and there's there's some safety. It's almost like, let's just pretend we're in a zoo, and we are, we're the, like, the deer at in a big zoo exhibit. And, you know, that's America. It's been kept, you know, pretty safe and, you know but all these deer have gotten kind of fat and lazy, and they're not really because they you know, there haven't been any tigers or anything like that for for, you know, a century for them to worry about. And so but then all of a sudden, someone takes these tigers that grew up not in the zoo, but in the jungle, where where they were they had to, you know, sometimes eat their children to survive.
• 27:06
  I mean, that, you know, it was it was the rule of the jungle. And you take them, you toss them into that deer exhibit with all these fat deer that have had no threat for for decades, it's gonna be a slaughter. And and I and I I don't I I don't want that to happen. Right? I really don't.
• 27:23
  And I hope that I still have a strong, you know, faith in God that whatever does happen is is still under his grand plan, but that's it's hard to not think like that because, yeah, if I put myself in the mindset, say I'm some say I'm a I'm a criminal, a Gema, you know, part of a gang in Venezuela, and say, you know, I was in put in prison for, you know, killing 30 people. Right? Because, you know, that that they do. Like, say you're an enforcer.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:49
  Seth Holehouse: Right? And I was serving a life sentence in there, and and all of a sudden, they said, hey. We're letting you out. We're gonna send you to America. Right?
• 27:58
  And and I I I survived on the streets. I grew up on the streets. I I murdered whatever it took to get ahead. You go throw me into America? I I couldn't agree more with you.
• 28:07
  I like, gosh. What's that guy thinking? He looks around and sees people driving these fancy cars, what you know, wearing jewelry and, you know, being kind of irresponsible and, you know, people that obviously can't defend themselves have gotten so comfortable. I mean, to me, it's almost like it it must be like a a kid in a candy store, except all the candy's free for the taking. I mean, that's that's a frightening thing to consider.
• 28:32
  And but, you know, like, there's the the meme that always goes around, like, the fourth turning. Right? Was that, you know, strong men, you know, make good times, good men. Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times.
• 28:43
  Hard times make strong men. So right now, we're we're in that phase where
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:48
  Seth Holehouse: We had the good times in America, but the good times turned us by and large into weak men. And now we we're the weak men getting ready to gear up for the hard times. But the problem is is that the the strong men in other countries have had hard times for a long time, and they become strong because of it. They're now coming in with that strength and that will to survive and do anything it takes to get ahead. They're coming into a country that's full of weak men.
• 29:21
  Right? And gosh, it just it it's a frightening scenario when when you look at it through that lens.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: No. I think and that's a great analogy of never thought of it in that terms and being in zoo, but it is exactly that. You just took wild animals that have been tearing each other apart and put them in this docile, butterflies are floating around, the deer are grazing and they're like, oh, what is that animal over there? And they're gone. They're gone.
• 29:49
  Here's two things that I would like your audience to know. Just to support what you and I are talking about. Right now, there's demographic studies after demographic studies that show our military age men from 17 to 26, 70 seven percent can't join our military. Why? Because they are either obese, drug addicts, physically unable to do it, or mentally, emotionally unable.
• 30:19
  And fifty percent of that seventy seven percent have two or more of those problems. Seventy seven percent of our fighting age males can't fight. They can't get in the military. That right there should scare the hell out of you. And the second thing that should scare the hell out of you, let's take, we know that this is in more states, but let's just take what Venezuelan gangs have done as of right now that has been documented and now it's getting into Connecticut, Texas, Illinois, and Colorado.
• 30:57
  That tells you, and they're all doing the exact same thing. They're taking over apartment complexes. That tells you that it's coordinated. That tells you that there is a hierarchy of this gang that's saying this is what we are going to do. This is how we're going to obtain property.
• 31:15
  This is how we're going to obtain power. This is how we're going to spread our reign of terror. You have to be a complete idiot to think that this is all happening in a vacuum in Colorado, in a vacuum in Texas. This is happening because the shot callers are telling their lieutenants, this is what we're going to do and this is how we did it. You're going to tell me that they haven't done this in Venezuela?
• 31:41
  Of course, they're not talking about rocket scientists or people that are curing cancer. We're talking about savages that have perfected their savagery. And now they've been brought into, like you said, the little pen with all the little does and their big fat fathers and mothers walking in the pasture. And they're thinking, what? What?
• 32:05
  That disgustingly perverse man that's wearing a dress and thinks he can have a baby is actually giving me my own apartment. They're paying for all my food and same day laundry service and they actually give me cash on a card every month. And know what they do? They get normalized to it and then they go, well, I don't want more. I want more.
• 32:32
  Well, I can go to the mall and just take them all. I can go to a 99% complex in Colorado and take it. Just take it. And I watched this. I don't know if you saw this, Seth, in real time how this is happening.
• 32:47
  I started to hear about it, and then I immediately saw the the the mayor attack the city councilwoman that brought it up and said she's a nut job. She's crazy. And then the governor came and said she's absolutely right wing nut job. And then after three days three days, they both had to admit, well, yeah, we've got a problem. And it's not really one apartment complex.
• 33:12
  Right now it's three going on four. So you know once they admit, then you know it's exponentially worse than what they admit to. So this is coordinated. It's spreading. And this is also part, Seth, is your audience needs to understand.
• 33:33
  I'd like them to understand. It's not like we shut the border down and now we're going to take care of the mess that we created and deport them. The border is still wide open. We're still averaging anywhere from 5,000 to 20,000 people a day that are being arrested and released. So whatever you think you're going to deal with, you need to exponentially multiply that by thousands.
• 34:01
  By thousands. Let me give you another example. I don't know if you've been following this happening in Springfield, Ohio. Have you followed this? In a small town in Springfield.
• 34:11
  They talked about it about two weeks ago and then they shut it out. Springfield, Ohio. I didn't even know that there's a Springfield, Ohio. It's about please don't quote me on this, but I think it's I think it's Southwest of Dayton, Ohio. Small town, 38,000 people in twenty twenty twenty twenty.
• 34:30
  They jumped in population to 58,000. How did that happen? We don't even replace that. The replacement level in our birth. What did Amazon move there?
• 34:43
  Google moved there? And then everybody came? No. Over 20,000 illegal alien Haitians moved in Springfield, Ohio. So now 20,000 of your 58,000, so one in three residents are illegal aliens from Haiti.
• 35:01
  Their city council, their mayor, their city manager and their police chief just said, It's over. It's over. We've lost our city. This is happening across America, Seth. Where do you think 50,000,000 people go?
• 35:16
  Do you think they stay in the city? I went on this journey to do this documentary. I'm in New York City filming relocation ticketing centers. That's what they're called. Illegal aliens that want to get out of New York.
• 35:30
  New York City has these big storefronts where you come in and you sign a document saying, I'm never coming back to New York City, and they fly you wherever you want to go in the world. Just get out. Don't ever come back. What the left hates about the Stanton and Abbott, and I think they did wrong. I don't think you should have infected America with your problem.
• 35:56
  However, they call them all those bio names so people don't understand they're doing the exact same thing. They're covered by the media and no one's going talk about it. America, Fifty Million illegal aliens in your nation, they're spreading out like a stage four cancer. And like Donald Trump said, I'm going to have the world's largest deportation force then I'm going to tell you and your audience, no matter if Kamala Harris who is functionally illiterate and still above her stage in life or Donald Trump wins, there will be blood on the streets. There's no getting around it.
• 36:34
  We're gonna have massive civil unrest. You better buckle up.
• 36:40
  Seth Holehouse: That's my concern. And I've been looking at a lot of different vectors of attack on our country, and I have to say that right now in a very visceral way, I'm really concerned about what happens with these terror cells. And and we haven't even seen, you know, China PLA special forces. Right? We haven't even seen, you know, some sort of, you know, radical jihadists, you know, that that are, you know, that hit you know, say, one day, we've got suicide vest bombers go off in 30 different major shopping malls across the country.
• 37:20
  You know how easy it is to coordinate that? The hard part is getting in the country. Right? The hard part is is actually getting in. Once you're in, especially with with with the oversight, you know, we said the shooting down in Georgia.
• 37:32
  The FBI knew the guy had had, you know, had issues. You know, they they were following him from last year talking about he's gonna shoot his school up. Right? So these things are allowed to happen. Right?
• 37:43
  That's that's the only thing I can make sense of. But I have a so I think that you made a very important point when you're talking about how this is organized crime, and that's something that look, I'm I'm not a criminal. Like, I'm I I just, you know, by how my heart is, like, I can't, like, I can't steal and do evil things. I just, you know, I can't, but a lot of people can. Right?
• 38:06
  And and what you find is that if you can if you do that, you can actually get really ahead in society. If you're willing to lie, cheat, and steal. Now, you're not gonna get ahead in the afterlife, right, where it catches up to you. But for a lot of people, they don't care about that. Right?
• 38:19
  And so when you look at, you know, crime, and you look at these gangs, and you look at organized crime, it's these things are run like businesses. It's it's it's run like CVS. You know, you've got the CEO, you've got your branch managers, you've got your, you know, you've got a whole structure, reporting structure. And so when you mentioned that this is Courtney, it's like, oh, man. Why didn't I think about that?
• 38:45
  You know, I I kinda thought, okay. There's these gangs coming in, and they're just gonna start taking areas and stuff. But, no, you're right. It's it's strategic, and they're starting in certain areas, and we'll probably see that they're establishing bases and and then doing this. And so one of the questions I have with this is, in terms of the process, let's say, like, a place like Aurora, which could be any any sanctuary city in in America or any city in America, really.
• 39:12
  Do you think what they're doing is setting up a base? Like, where where maybe eventually what happens is you remember the, the zone out? Was it Portland, you know, Chaz or whatever? Where they they literally kind of they they make their own area, like a district where it's like, okay. You don't go there because, like, not even the police will go in there because they've now done they've claimed their own rule of law.
• 39:30
  So is that what you expect to happen with this? Is that we'll start having these zones where more because it's like imagine it. Right? Imagine if across the country in 20 different areas, you've got say, in each area, you've got a thousand Venezuelan gang members heavily armed that have now taken up a certain that they've now claimed, like, this five block radius, and it starts expanding and expanding. I mean, this is this is what civil war is.
• 39:58
  Right? Civil war, obviously, typically refers to the citizens fighting amongst themselves, but it's also just, you know, war within the country in this way. So how how do you see that playing out? Is is that a a rational understanding to say that they're they're they're kinda claiming their initial kinda you know, it's like you're playing Risk, right, where you're claiming this land and you slowly start expanding forming your own border. I mean, how do you see that going?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I see them and I think you're right. They're building beachheads. Right? They're building this is my area. I own it.
• 40:34
  And then I'm gonna expand. I'm going to conquer and I'm going to expand. Why wouldn't they? Maybe that's the best question to ask. Why would, if you're a Venezuelan gang, a gang any, the Haitian gang, Russian mafia, whatever, And you come into America and you took over three apartment complexes and nothing's done to you.
• 40:58
  Like you see it on news and whatever, but nothing's done. Why would you stop? Why wouldn't you continue? The answer is of course they're going to continue. Of course they are.
• 41:13
  So let's say they take right now I think it's four apartment complexes. They're not roaming around, meaning roaming around the streets and the police can just pick off one or two. No, they set up the corners. Everybody knows who's coming in and who's coming out. And then they own that area.
• 41:32
  And then it becomes what we have seen in Europe, no go zones. Ask yourself a question again. Aurora has what? 400,000 people left? 400,000 people and you have less than a thousand police officers.
• 41:47
  So that tells you Aurora has never really had any crime. Okay? 400,000, you should have about two, three, four, five thousand police officers. So you have no crime. In fact, I got to look this up because I heard about it and not fact checked it thoroughly yet, but they just created a gang task force.
• 42:09
  What? That means there's no gang in Aurora. Or if they are, you have some stupid white kid gang. Now you have machete wielding savages. So now you have And also not only are they taking over complexes, broadening out their geographic base, but you have to understand this isn't a real estate takeover and they're just taking into real estate.
• 42:40
  They're coming in with prostitution, gambling, drugs, child sex trafficking, human bondage, theft. They're doing strong-arm burglaries in broad daylight in jewelry stores in Aurora. So this is not, hey, boy, this sucks for the people that does their apartment now is run by the savages from Venezuela. So don't worry about it. Not they're not gonna touch us.
• 43:06
  No. They're you have to be an idiot to think that that's all they're gonna do. It's criminal enterprise. They're going to branch out into everything they can get their hands on. You're going see home invasions, you're going see murders, rapes, you're going to see it all.
• 43:21
  I can go to Whitewater, Wisconsin Cincinnati, Ohio now Springfield, Ohio, Oakland, LA, San Francisco, Las Vegas, some other places in Nevada, and I can go all the way down through America and I can show you. You have massive, massive illegal alien crime, murders, rape, child rape, kidnapping, child sexual trafficking, child labor. Whatever you think that we're immune from, it's here in America and it's proliferating because our government wanted this to happen. There is no, you can't tell me, now do I think the federal government is run by a bunch of brainchilds? No.
• 44:05
  But they're very intelligent in their motives to destroy America and they knew that this was going to happen. It didn't, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to say I'm going to bring in millions of single adult military age men from across the globe and nothing bad is going to happen. Of course something bad is going to happen and we're living through it. And I Seth, I'm like you. I hope that I'm wrong but I know I'm not.
• 44:32
  And we are about to see an explosion of this explosion. I just, there's no other way around it. Intellectually, there's no other way. There's no other conclusion you can come to as a rational thinking individual once you're presented the fact and what's happening. There is none.
• 44:51
  And again let's go back to Aurora, let's go back to Chicago, let's go back to Connecticut, lily white Connecticut. Do they have the man, it's war is about manpower. Do you have enough manpower to beat the other side? And I'm telling you Aurora does not have the manpower. They're thinking about bringing a national guard for god's sake.
• 45:17
  Seth Holehouse: It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. Actually, it leads into what a question this is from Donna who asked, ask him please when he believes the violence will start on a large scale. I know it's hard to predict exactly, but what are you seeing? Is there do you think do you foresee violence on a large scale?
• 45:38
  What's that look like? When do you think that would be happening?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Here's here's when I think there are two places where violence is overwhelming violence is gonna happen. It's either gonna happen right before the election, okay, or some kinda mandatory martial law that will shove everything down. Or, I'm going tell you exactly when, if that doesn't happen, I'm going tell you exactly where and mark this down on your calendar. Kamala Harris steals the election because there's the only way she'll win. The economy will go into an absolute free fall within six months.
• 46:12
  The the stock market's gonna crash. Companies are going to which they did with under under Obama. They're going to send trillions of dollars overseas because they're gonna they're gonna bank it because they're not gonna want to get in this inflationary area in America. And then all the money is gonna drive up. Meaning you can't stay in that hotel anymore.
• 46:33
  You can't get three meals a day. You can't get your free I need your your cell phones cut off because I can't make the payment anymore. You you have to wash your own clothes. I'm sorry. You gotta leave.
• 46:45
  Well, I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. Oh, okay. Well, there's 50,000,000 of us. We're not leaving.
• 46:54
  So what are you going do, America? Do you have 50,000,000 law enforcement officers that are going to do it? And the answer is no, and I'll give you real time data. Right now there are over 5,000,000 illegal immigrants in America that have already exhausted all of their appeals and the immigration judge hit the gavel down and said, you are deported, you must leave. And over 5,000,000 said, go pound sand, I'm not leaving.
• 47:18
  And they haven't. So maybe the bigger question is that not when this is going to happen because it's going to happen on a massive scale. And that have more wartime knowledge, let's call it, than I do are saying exactly what I'm saying. Maybe the question is, once it starts, how are we going to struggle? And the answer is we can't.
• 47:47
  We do not have the resources. There's 50,000,000 people in our country legal. I would say 60% on the low end are single adult military age men. There are 660,000 state and local and federal law enforcement. That's it, people.
• 48:04
  That's it. And you're talking the vast majority of all those law enforcement are in major cities, New York, LA, San Francisco, maybe Miami, and then everyone else, you're on your own, baby. You got no one to help you. No one. And that's frightening, Seth, when you think of it in those terms.
• 48:29
  It's a data problem now. It's a bad math problem. Stop looking at this as some moral issue. The moral the morality is gone. America is in a moral rock right now.
• 48:41
  And you have brought in savages into your country and you are expecting America to remain the same. It's just it's a perfect analogy. You just brought lions and tigers, hyenas and panthers and everything under the sun that once they eat and kill, you just threw them in to this unicorn and butterfly world. And everyone is riding their unicorn going, it's great life and all of a sudden a tiger comes out of nowhere and kills your unicorn you're riding on. You're like, well, maybe we need to understand them better.
• 49:19
  Maybe we should talk to them. I love that. Well, let's just talk to them like, my god. The reason I laughed, Seth, because for twenty four years in the border patrol down on the border and then running task force up and down the coastline chasing narco smugglers. They're savages.
• 49:38
  Like, they're stone cold killing savages. So when I see that that purple haired dude that's five hundred pounds with 50 piercings on his face, and I think, you, you are the giant wilderbeest on the plane, and you're looking around thinking you're all safe, and there's like a thousand lions, and they're all looking at each other going, no, this is my, I, it's my turn. I'm going to take down the wilderbeest. Everyone's like, okay, go ahead. That every time I see these people I just smile and go, God, you are low hanging fruit, and you don't even know it.
• 50:13
  You don't even, they're not, theft. They're not going to come and take from me first because they know my American flag's outside. They know I'm going to have a gun, and and they they they cased my neighborhood. They go, well, that guy is definitely gonna kill me. And then they see an LGBTQ flag flying and a Biden sign or Kamala Harris sign.
• 50:33
  How do I know that they're targeting? Because they've already admitted to it in the Northeast. They look for LGBTQ flag and Biden and Kamala Harris signs, they figure they are beta males, they have no guns and we're gonna go take them. And they do. They're the low, I call them the low hanging fruit.
• 50:54
  They're not coming for us first. They're gonna come take that because it's easy. Why would a giant tiger or a lion go chase some some gazelle for 10 miles to be exhausted? When there's a fat wildebeest sitting there with his door open saying, come on in and kill me. Okay.
• 51:13
  Screw it. I just wander in there. Don't want me to eat them. Then I'll just go take a nap. That's how they think, Seth.
• 51:22
  That's how the savages think. And we gotta stop thinking. You said something perfect is you traveled part of the world, I've traveled the world. The idea that we have been The idea of everyone's the same. Every culture is the same, every country is the same.
• 51:41
  America is great because we stole it all. Blah blah blah. We have been lied to and conditioned our whole lives to think that we're bad and that we're just like them. Why are we after two hundred and some odd years, the world's superpower and nations that have been in existence for four or five thousand years still don't have running water for electricity? Is that because we just got lucky?
• 52:09
  Or is it because that we have property rights and a constitution, a bill of rights? We're special. So stop acting like we're third world knuckle draggers and start protecting what we've created or our founding fathers created or our forefathers. We haven't really created much except chaos in the last fifty years.
• 52:30
  Seth Holehouse: So I've got a really good question, actually. This is from Union Trinity, and I think it's it's a good way. So we're hitting it, yeah, running out, you know, at an hour. So this person asked on Rumble, they say, is the solution? And that's that's that's that's it.
• 52:47
  Right? Like, for us, for me, my family, for people that are watching, the ones that are very sober and see what's coming. Right? The hurricane's coming. Everyone else is like, oh, it's just a breeze.
• 53:01
  These are people that are saying, look, I felt breezes like these, the leaves are upturned, the sky looks like this, I can smell it in the air, there's a hurricane coming. They they see it. What is the solution that you see that aside from, hey, let's just let let's vote the right politicians and they're gonna fix it for us. Right?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 53:20
  Seth Holehouse: What's what's the solution that the average American that cares, what should we be doing? What can we be doing?
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Here's what I believe is the solution. If you find people that are like minded like yourself and you create a plan, a literal plan where if you look at that man in the eye and you say, I swear to you on my name that when things go bad, I have your back. Will you have mine? Yes. And you can tell those who those men are.
• 53:52
  And then you cobble that together and you have a plan. You have to have a plan. Where are we going to go? What are we going to do? Do we have enough money?
• 54:00
  No. Okay, then why don't we when things go real bad, then why don't we just take our house and we'll just live in our house and we'll secure our house. I think you need to have guns. I think you need to have some type of currency, physical currency. And then that is going to happen.
• 54:20
  This is, I hate to say it, but statistically probability this is looks more real today than it did three years ago, right? Or did under Obama. It has a great probability to happen. Prior to that happening or getting to that point where I have to have my and I have buddies. We've already made our contingency plan.
• 54:45
  We know each other. I'll kill for him, he'll kill for me. We'll take care of our families. But prior to that, what you need to do is you need to take over your city council and your mayor and you vote in your sheriff. And then that mayor handpicks the chief of police.
• 55:06
  So now I have a small town or a county that has no illegal aliens are allowed here. No homeless shelters. No section eight. No deals with federal government. No nothing.
• 55:19
  And we're all armed. And you we have a militia, meaning we have a standing army. Let's say I live in a town or a county that has 50,000 people and 10,000 men have signed up and been deputized. When this happens, you are automatically deputized. I just ring a bell and now you are our standing sheriff.
• 55:41
  And now that county partners with another county and then another county and all of a sudden I have a state. I have a state that is America's First. No illegals are allowed here. I don't want any of your money government. We're self sufficient.
• 55:56
  In fact, federal government. I am now taking back. I don't have to ask you. It's in the constitution. Your rights are enumerated.
• 56:03
  I have given you all my rights. I'm taking them all back now. You have to take your city council, your mayor, your school board, your sheriffs because that's the only way this is going to happen. Or just prepare for absolute war. What does that look like?
• 56:24
  You and I have had this discussion. I don't know, Seth. I don't think it's going to be the civil war where it's the blue coats against the gray coats and we're going to shoot and red coats are going shoot each other and all that. I know what I'm feeling. It ain't going to be like that.
• 56:36
  I don't know what it's going to be. It's going be horrible, horrible, unless we take our country back. And our founding fathers gave us the blueprint. If you have a tyrannical government, it is your duty, Your duty, not maybe you should or you should think about it. It's your duty to overthrow that tyrannical government.
• 56:58
  Do we have a tyrannical government right now? Is anyone going to have disagree and have an argument with me that we don't have a tyrannical government? So what are we doing? We're just sitting here waiting like that fat guy with 50 piercings sitting on a savannah waiting to be eaten. That's what we're doing.
• 57:18
  We're just sitting here going, well, when's the pain gonna hit us enough to to get involved? But my answer is, don't worry about Washington and the president and the senate. That that's so corrupt. It's so it's so corrupt. President Trump, I want him to win.
• 57:36
  He is not Jesus Christ. He's not going to change everything. He is going to be a shield for us to do the dirty work as he falls, keeps the savages at bay up there if he can. I don't know. I think you get prepared mentally, spiritually, and physically.
• 57:55
  Be physically ready and mentally ready to do what's needed to do. Like law enforcement guys. I'm not talking about the average do nothing pencil pusher app law enforcement. But guys like me and my buddies, we put on our uniform, we click in duty belt, have our vest on, and we are singly focused. If this happens, I'm doing this.
• 58:20
  I'm not waiting. I'm not second guessing. If I feel a threat, my gun's coming out, I'm going to my target, and if he comes at me, I'm killing him. Period. And if you do not have that mindset in this world today, you are behind the curve, and you are now the low hanging fruit.
• 58:42
  Seth Holehouse: It's good to have this kind of a sober conversation. And I I hope that folks share this conversation because, look, you you know, some might say, oh, it's fear mongering. I'd rather be a little bit scared and let that let that fear, you know, keep me up a little bit at night and say, Seth, you gotta do this. You gotta get your food storage in order. You gotta do this.
• 59:02
  You gotta build your community. Go talk to that neighbor that you've seen. Right? Like, fear can actually be really good for us. If you're walking in a jungle and you hear, you know, growling and you see some sort of thing looking at you, your fear is what helps you stay alive.
• 59:17
  So fear is actually healthy. The problem is that a lot of people these days, they get they in fight or flight, they or or freeze, really. They get scared. They freeze. Mhmm.
• 59:26
  What do I do? What do I do? And then then they just go distract themselves online. So I think it's good to have these conversations. But before we we wrap up, though, I I do wanna just touch on your documentary.
• 59:38
  Right? Which is so so I'll pull up the website, which is this is treason.com. And so tell actually, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna play the trailer. So first off, before I play the trailer, when is this coming out?
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll do this in sixty seconds because I know you have time pressed up. Ryan Matta, my business partner, decided in April May excuse me, March, and then we started filming in April all the way through August. We are going to film a documentary called What is Treason? And we're going to prove that the federal government opened the borders intentionally to fundamentally transform America and we were going to prove it. And we did.
• 1:00:17
  Halfway through this documentary, an issue popped up that began to take over every part of our documentary and that was child sex trafficking. Dominated it. Dominated it. We knew we had to talk about human trafficking and human suffering, but it began to dominate to the point that Ryan and I decided we'll see if God gives us enough money in sales that we can fund another journey and talk about the child sex trafficking. Had it all laid, right?
• 1:00:45
  Everything laid out. We're going do that in November. Unbelievably, we shot so much footage and had so many interviews with top level people that we have a standalone sex trafficking documentary. Not talk about the suffering of kids, talk about the number of kids being sold. But our documentary is not solely about the suffering of children, but who has facilitated the world's largest child sex trafficking organization in modern history and that would be the US government.
• 1:01:22
  It sounds absurd, it sounds crazy, until you see what we've discovered and what we put together on film. You are going to be shocked to understand that your federal government has trafficked over 500,000 children into America. And what Ryan and I decided to do, well, what do we do? We're selling a documentary called What is Treason? We can't charge for this.
• 1:01:48
  We don't want to charge for this documentary. So we decided, you know what? Everyone that's buying the documentary presale on thisistreason.com, they get both documentaries. We don't care. We want to get the message out.
• 1:02:00
  So on September 13, we go to a film festival in Texas. We're going to release Treason Traffic under the banner of What is Treason? Treason Traffic, all about the child sex trafficking, September 13. October '20 fourth, we're going to release Treason Invaded, all about the open borders and the destruction that has happened to America. So two documentaries for $9.99 So basically nothing.
• 1:02:27
  So if you can go to This Is Treason and purchase a presale, Ryan and I did all this on our own. All of our money, tens of thousand dollars on our own because we knew that if we went to Amazon Prime, Netflix, if they bought it, they would shelf it or they would tell us, hey, bro, you're not talking about this. Okay. No. We're talking about this.
• 1:02:48
  So we made a conscious decision. Then let's let's put our money where our mouth is and let's trust God and let's just do it. And we did it. And I'm successful. We're successful and we're going to shock the world.
• 1:03:01
  And if you listen and you just pay attention a little bit, you understand that child sex trafficking is now becoming the number one topic in America. It's all anybody talks about there. The DHS Spectra General came out last week and said in fact Health and Human Services under MDHS has lost over three hundred and twenty thousand children. And we know the number is closer to five hundred thousand. They have not admitted it yet.
• 1:03:29
  And where are they? As Donald Trump says repeatedly, a lot of them are already dead. And he's right. They have been sex trafficked, organ harvest, and then child sex and child sacrifice their bodies. This is true, and we're going to show you and we're going to prove it to you.
• 1:03:48
  And it's going to be shocking. Shocking. Not for shocking effect. This is reality, and this is what you're looking at, America.
• 1:03:58
  Seth Holehouse: Gosh. Well, let me go and play the trailer, and then we can go from there. So okay. So I'll go and full screen it, folks. This is the trailer.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take you on a journey. A journey that's gonna prove that Joe Biden and his administration are traitors, and they have committed treason against America. I only have question for you. But before I ask that question, I wanna take you back in time. We're gonna transport everyone back to 01/19/2021, the day before Joe Biden takes office.
• 1:04:25
  And I'm gonna stand before you, and I'm gonna say I came from the future four years from now, and I'm gonna tell you what this man's gonna do. First day in office, he is going to sign 94 executive orders to eviscerate every immigration policy Donald j Trump has put into effect. He will take a border that was the most secure border in American history and turn it on its head. Within four years, Joe Biden will have arrested over 12,000,000 people. 250,000 of them will be special interest aliens, which in other words, in layman's terms, terrorist.
• 1:04:56
  They'll be arrested and released. Since the time he's become president in the four years, Joe Biden has created the world's largest child sex trafficking organization in modern history. He will have arrested and released over 500,000 unaccompanied alien children called UACs. Their ages are from infancy to 17 years old. They just released them.
• 1:05:15
  Release them to a nation that is the number one consumer of child pornography. Connect the dots. Our government is destroying America from within. I will not stand by and allow it to happen. That's why I'm gonna go to across the nation, and I'm gonna show you the manifestation of this treason.
• 1:05:34
  You're gonna see crime that you can't even fathom. You're gonna see a degradation of the social benefits and welfare for American citizens being ripped from them and given to illegal aliens. You're gonna see cities like Chicago, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, and you're gonna see them divert tens of millions of dollars in New York City. They're gonna divert almost $12,000,000,000 for illegal aliens. The city of Chicago has clawed to its knees.
• 1:05:59
  Social welfare, murder, crime, you can imagine hundreds of millions of dollars for illegal aliens, and I don't care about my residents. They all pound sand. We are living in a world where our government hates us, and I'm gonna go on a journey, and I am gonna prove it to you. And the question I have after all of this has been done, if I everything I tell you is the truth and it is, do you call Joe Biden a patriot or a trainer?
• 1:06:50
  Seth Holehouse: So, man, powerful work. I know you've got some more updated trailers that are showing more of the progress, but that's that's a good one that shows, especially your involvement in this. So the website, this is treason.com, I encourage everyone that's watching, go there, preorder, let's get this information out, in addition to sharing this interview. Because more Americans and this this is a heavy conversation we've had tonight, but more Americans, I think, need to understand just how serious this is. Like, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
• 1:07:26
  My hope is that we won't descend into the chaos, but I'm gonna be prepared if we do. And I can't prepare if I don't know what that chaos looks like. And that's why I think it's part of my duty, is to show people this is what chaos could look like. So prepare. So JJ, man, it's been a a pleasure having you on.
• 1:07:48
  Thank you so much for what you're doing. Do you have any any final thoughts as we're closing out here?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: No. I I agree with everyone you're everything you're saying, and I hate coming on and having these discussions. I wish I was having a discussion of Donald Trump's second term is coming to an end. The border wall is finished. Everyone is thriving in America.
• 1:08:06
  The economy is booming. Everything is going great. No. It's not. And I don't take any joy or pleasure in having these discussions.
• 1:08:15
  None. I love my country just as you do. But to stick our head in the sand is meaning you are complicit in the crime against America and I won't do that. So it's tough, it's a heavy topic, but when countries fall and people take over your country, it is heavy. It's worse than heavy.
• 1:08:35
  You lose everything and we're about to lose everything. And I don't think that is dramatic or hyperbole. It's staring you in the face. You have to acknowledge it.
• 1:08:48
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• 1:09:00
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• 1:09:17
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• 1:09:29
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• 1:09:42
  JJ, it's it's been great, man. I'm sure we'll be doing a lot more shows as the year rounds out. We're gonna have a lot to talk about. Hopefully, some good news and hopefully, some positive things. But I appreciate you coming on here.
• 1:09:54
  I appreciate what you're doing to educate people. It's really important. And I hope that again, I hope that more of us can be prepared for the worse, but collectively hoping for the best. And maybe, you know, the divine providence will come down upon this nation once again. So thank you so much, JJ.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Have a great night.
• 1:10:13
  Seth Holehouse: Take care, and God bless, man.