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25W: Bobby's Sperm Clinic Experience + Phillies Legend Ryan Howard on Getting Recognized from Being in 'The Office' + Kickoff Kevin's First Babysitter Recap · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five wist fucking board and
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: they were a whist so, yeah, it's too bad.
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  Speaker 2: But what did you expect?
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  Speaker 3: It's a podcast called twenty five whistles.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody, alright, blood whistle. We do have Brian Howard coming up.
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  Speaker 4: Philly's great, so that's cool. We'll talk NBA basketball a
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  Speaker 4: little bit as well. The thing that I would never
• 0:32
  Speaker 4: want to do, and I think a little bit it
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  Speaker 4: feels like when we made you do the testosterone test,
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  Speaker 4: is that I have people racing their sperm. You got
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  Speaker 4: have you guys seen this at all?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: What I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Because they're fast swimmers, right, so what do they.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's what they say. I don't know, fast compared
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  Speaker 4: to like us running. They're fast, they swim, so they
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  Speaker 4: but they yeah, they race them.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's cool. You want to do it?
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I had to get my sperm checked. I
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  Speaker 4: did before my wife and I started trying to have
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  Speaker 4: a baby, because I was forty five and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: if we're gonna like try and like every month, wait
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  Speaker 4: for that, I need to make sure. And so I
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  Speaker 4: did that and it was great, Luckily, thank I'm nervous for.
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  Speaker 2: You, dude, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: It was weird. I was nervous, but it was weird
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  Speaker 4: first because you're just yanking in a room and everybody
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  Speaker 4: knows what you're doing. It's it's bizarre.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: You've done this.
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  Speaker 6: No, I've never done it.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, the whole the whole process, because you go
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  Speaker 4: and you sit in a room and they're like all right, Bobby,
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: and they you know, the person working at the desk
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  Speaker 4: meets you. It's like all right, come on back.
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  Speaker 2: And then you get a woman at the desk at
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  Speaker 2: the day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not all dude. It's not like a sports bar.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be all dudes. Like it'd be better
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  Speaker 2: if it's all dudes that I'd be like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: you know what's up. You know you gotta do this,
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  Speaker 2: you know what to do.
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  Speaker 4: And they walk you back and you talk to a
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  Speaker 4: second like hey, to a doctor or a nurse, another
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  Speaker 4: woman and she's they call it a sample and they
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  Speaker 4: say what you're gonna donna go here your sample, And
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  Speaker 4: the whole time you're just going in my mind, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going you're looking at me and you know I'm about
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  Speaker 4: to yank it and that's weird. For about the last
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  Speaker 4: I'm just thinking that in my head. But they do
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  Speaker 4: it all the time. It just yankors all day to them,
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  Speaker 4: Do they know.
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  Speaker 6: What you're you're using in there? I'm saying them looking
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  Speaker 6: at you and being like not, not only do you
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  Speaker 6: know what you're about to do? What you're about to
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  Speaker 6: do to this?
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  Speaker 2: Oh do you have something?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 6: Oh? Well, everybody everybody has the movies, but the movies
• 2:31
  Speaker 6: where that the magazines in there?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody has a phone. Now that's true, but no, I
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  Speaker 4: was just okay, just curious that didn't magazine things disgusting?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I use the same magazine is gross.
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  Speaker 4: No, So but you go in and there's an old
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  Speaker 4: radio that you're supposed to turn up, so so they
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  Speaker 4: don't hear you. I guess because I just I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I picture like that because I was like three rooms,
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  Speaker 4: I guess while they do this the yankor halls, and
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  Speaker 4: I was calling it when I was doing Caitlyn the
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  Speaker 4: Yankor hall.
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  Speaker 2: This is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it's no, it's a doctor's office. And oh
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  Speaker 4: I have a crazy story too, but it's not even me,
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  Speaker 4: but not only walking down the anchor hall but you
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  Speaker 4: hear music in the other room, so you know what's
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  Speaker 4: happening in your hall because I only turn the music
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  Speaker 4: up when you go in there. And mine was on
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  Speaker 4: a class. It was like four in a row, Tom Patty.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 4: And so then when you're done, you have your sample
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  Speaker 4: and the inside of the wall is it's like a
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  Speaker 4: metal square, and you pull it back and you put
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  Speaker 4: your sample on there and you hit a button and
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  Speaker 4: then you go out and you just kind of hang
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  Speaker 4: your head in shame as you walk out. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: like I'm done.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, does anybody make eye contact?
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  Speaker 4: So that whole process was odd. I was nervous about
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  Speaker 4: the results. But the results came back and is a plus.
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  Speaker 4: So thank god, plus is a plus.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: I would have told you if it's be minus is
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  Speaker 4: a plus.
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  Speaker 6: So I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was nervous about that, but I didn't get nervous
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  Speaker 4: until it was like when I got my ACT results.
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  Speaker 4: You take the test any way, you're not really nervous
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  Speaker 4: until the envelope gets there and you're like, oh god,
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  Speaker 4: when I pull the envelope, this justn be life changing.
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  Speaker 4: And so I got an email saying, hey, your results
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  Speaker 4: are on the portal, and I went to the portal
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  Speaker 4: and if it was like sperm count I don't remember
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  Speaker 4: what the classifications were, but if it was like over
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  Speaker 4: ten thousand, that was good, over twenty thousand, that was great.
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  Speaker 4: And mine was like a million.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, A bunch of guys in there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder what ours would be. Dude knows.
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  Speaker 4: I think Eddie would be like dust.
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  Speaker 2: Does the five? Does the test have to do with
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  Speaker 2: the sperm?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. But my point was they do sperm races.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh, I'll tell you another story. The
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  Speaker 4: story that came to my mind. So men of the
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  Speaker 4: world are invited to put their sperm against each other
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  Speaker 4: in a race where the owner takes on one hundred
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  Speaker 4: thousand dollars. The twenty twenty six Sperm Racing World Cup.
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  Speaker 4: It's one hundred and twenty eight samples, each representing a
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  Speaker 4: different country that's facing off on a microscopic racetrack. I
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  Speaker 4: guess it's next month in samp Cisco. It's the Kentucky
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  Speaker 4: Derby of Juices.
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  Speaker 2: What on earth?
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  Speaker 4: But they want one hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Now that the payday is awesome, but so like, do
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  Speaker 2: they take just one of your guys, and that represents.
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  Speaker 4: You under a microscope. The competitors will race each other
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  Speaker 4: along a customized micro fluidic track. I don't know, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: And do they put like a what's what's the Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Here you go the entrance. Are sent a kit which
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  Speaker 4: to provide semen sample which will be mailed back to
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  Speaker 4: California process through advanced lab technique such as incubation, sperm washing,
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  Speaker 4: pipe dding, and through a centrifuge. And I think it
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  Speaker 4: isolates and prepares the most viable cells for racing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so it gets your fastest.
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  Speaker 4: Finds your healthiest horse and puts them on the track.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know how like when you do the
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  Speaker 2: dog races, they have flash and dash? Is there like
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  Speaker 2: an egg or something that like.
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  Speaker 4: Tells them which way to go?
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  Speaker 5: Point?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's one hundred thousand bucks. I wouldn't want to be
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  Speaker 4: a part of this because I don't want.
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  Speaker 7: To be last.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine your last?
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  Speaker 4: Like eight? Yeah, the country.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just you, dude, you'd be letting your country down.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, you know, it's true.
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  Speaker 4: I want to stand up there with my hand on
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  Speaker 4: my heart, knowing that my sperm just won me that gold.
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  Speaker 6: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: My have a friend, a literal friend, a close friend
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  Speaker 4: who was doing a full physical type thing and part
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  Speaker 4: of it was they were checking his sperm too, and
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  Speaker 4: so he does the physical and they're like, hey, we
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  Speaker 4: needed to do a sperm test and he's like all right,
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  Speaker 4: didn't really know that was going to be part of
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  Speaker 4: the physical, and so they give him the cup for
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  Speaker 4: the sample and they just say go on, and he
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  Speaker 4: has to go into like a public bathroom. What he had.
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  Speaker 4: They just pointed him at a stall and there are
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  Speaker 4: like three yearnals, three stalls, and he's like he felt
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  Speaker 4: like too, he could go to jail, like somebody comes
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  Speaker 4: in like there's a dude waka in there, I promise
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  Speaker 4: this for a sample? Probably no, no, no, the doctor,
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  Speaker 4: but he had to. He had to do it there.
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  Speaker 2: Heck no, I wonder what's worse to do, like not
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  Speaker 2: knowing it's coming or knowing it's coming.
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  Speaker 4: You probably just want to know it's coming. No, no fun.
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  Speaker 2: After I said, I'm like, that's just not a good
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  Speaker 2: way to say it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's that thing, that's what that race is.
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  Speaker 4: That's my story.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Times man, they're changing. Bob Dylan said it. They are,
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  Speaker 4: They're changing. So yeah, good luck to everybody. Yeah, all countries,
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  Speaker 4: I mean just in life.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we need it, dude, we need it.
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  Speaker 4: That crap's crazy, Eddie. I have a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 4: from you. But I think have we not already all
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  Speaker 4: talked talked about this time?
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  Speaker 2: We have not talked about any of this.
• 7:43
  Speaker 4: We for sure talked about meeting t Max mom on
• 7:45
  Speaker 4: the other show we.
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  Speaker 2: Did, but not on this show. But which Kevin doesn't know.
• 7:49
  Speaker 4: If people hear this, they're going to know about it.
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  Speaker 2: It was more for Kevin because like if Kevin would
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  Speaker 2: have been there, he would have been like, what is happening?
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  Speaker 4: I give you a quick version because a lot of
• 7:56
  Speaker 4: people listen to this. Probably Kevin works in a back
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  Speaker 4: room and doesn't get to hear the show as doing it.
• 8:01
  Speaker 4: Can you turn a volume up in there?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 8:02
  Speaker 6: But I'm also editing all the time, so just be
• 8:05
  Speaker 6: But if.
• 8:05
  Speaker 4: Like something you were just dying laughing, you could flip
• 8:07
  Speaker 4: it up in here.
• 8:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because we have a TV. If so, if I
• 8:09
  Speaker 6: see somebody dying laughing like you just said, then I'll
• 8:11
  Speaker 6: turn the music or the sound up real quick.
• 8:14
  Speaker 4: We were going into the Arkansas Texas softball game at
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  Speaker 4: Texas and it was rainy and cold, and I had
• 8:20
  Speaker 4: four or five tickets on my phone from DJ, who's
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: hitting coaching Arkansas on my brother in law, and we
• 8:26
  Speaker 4: were just like, oh, this one ticket didn't go through
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: and a name should be on the list, and so
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: they ended up sending me oh the other ticket, gotcha boo.
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: Woman in Texas shirt next to us was like, hey,
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: do I know you? I was like, and naturally, I
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: think it's from the radio show or television stuff've been on.
• 8:43
  Speaker 4: Who knows. It's a grab bag out there, And I
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: was like, I don't know. She's like, did you do
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: something in Arizona? And I was like no, Like you
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: did a sports thing at Arizona And I was like no,
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: And I sort of thinking, well we did. She said, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you talked to my son about his rating on Madden
• 8:55
  Speaker 4: his Teamax. Mom.
• 8:57
  Speaker 6: What Yeah, sitting right next to you else.
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: Getting teket while we were getting in at the box office. Yeah. Really, yeah,
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: he was his game because his girlfriend plays on the
• 9:06
  Speaker 4: team Texas for Texas.
• 9:08
  Speaker 6: Wow, did you see him?
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: No? She face time with him, but the cell was
• 9:11
  Speaker 4: so bad. I'm glad because he was. She was like,
• 9:14
  Speaker 4: look who I'm with. It was breaking all up and
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, he's not gonna know anyway.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: But we were just like, how is this all happening?
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Like it's random.
• 9:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so so t Max mom to be in that
• 9:26
  Speaker 6: spot and she recognized you. That's cool.
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was like linger looking and that happens. But
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: usually it's hey, Dandela Stars whatever, breaking Bybones radio shirt
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: something like that. But no, it was that it was
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: too much access.
• 9:42
  Speaker 6: Did she talk about her son's rookie year.
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: We didn't get it. It was cold and wet, dude.
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: We stayed four and we're freezing our balls off.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: It was cold, man, great seats.
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: I think Eddie was able to appreciate, like how fast
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: college off ball is.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: Had no idea like baseball. It's just a big field.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: So like, yes, they're fast, but I mean you can't
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: really see how fast they are because they're just throwing
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: the ball a long way. They're running far. With softball,
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: it's so condensed in this small area, dude, it's like, wow,
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: double play.
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  Speaker 4: We were like, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And the girls hit the ball so hard.
• 10:15
  Speaker 6: And you remember how hard it wasn't hit when we
• 10:17
  Speaker 6: didn't too much excess.
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  Speaker 2: I actually enjoyed it. Other than the cold rain, I
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: could have I would have loved been there for the
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: whole game.
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  Speaker 4: It's so much more action than baseball.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the girls are so positive, like we're you get.
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: To talk crap, except you're not talking crap, you're talking positive.
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: But with your team, Like if you get on second base,
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: you dance, you do baseball, they'll throw it at you
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  Speaker 4: next time you get up, or they'll be a fight.
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: Unspoken rules. It's you get a hit, you get a
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: first base, like, oh, it's awesome.
• 10:45
  Speaker 6: Did you catch a football that?
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: Sure it did? Sure? Well, well not.
• 10:49
  Speaker 6: Technically, Okay, this is why I'm asking this foul ball? Wait,
• 10:55
  Speaker 6: what's the what happened?
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: We're walking not we're walking to the stadium, we're not
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: in yet. And Eddie goes, it'd be so cool to
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: catch a foul ball, that was all. And then you
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: hear it and you see a ball come over the
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: stadium and go tink clink and start rolling down the
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: sidewalk and I'm like, dude, there's a ball, go get it.
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: And he's like, I don't know. I'm like dude, there's
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: a ball, go get the ball. You wanted a foul ball.
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: So he runs down and gets it. In softball, you
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: have to give the balls back because I only have
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: so many and it's not a sport that makes money.
• 11:23
  Speaker 6: So yeah, correct.
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: So someone from Texas comes out and it's like, hey,
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: you just find that ball, and he's like, yeah, you can.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: Here you go.
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: And so she goes back and she says to me, Hey,
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: this at the pavement. Does your friend really want this
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: ball or no, no way, And I said yeah. She
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: goes I'm gonna make sure that it can't be had
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: because if it's scuffed, it's done. And so she came
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: back and she was like, it's scuffed, he can have it.
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: It was like five year old, Yeah it up.
• 11:45
  Speaker 7: I know the picture.
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: You're like a little kid.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: You'll hold it up well, because because I literally had
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: just said like, hey, what I want out of this
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: game is to catch a foul ball. Yeah, that's all
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: I want. And then dude, it was like the heavens
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: opened up and that ball came flying over the wall.
• 11:58
  Speaker 6: I wonder what. So it was actually from the game.
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: Wasn't like somebody hitting.
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: It during the game. We got there in the first inning.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: It was a little legit foul.
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: It was so cold. We did not have coach. It
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: shouldn't have been that cold in May and Austin it
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: did it rained all day. It's freezing. We liked the
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: four innings and then we were like, it's too we
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: have we're freezing our balls off and uh. We went
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: back to the restaurant watching on the phone. But Archets
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: won the series two out of three games.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: I had a question about that. So like, so, so
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: your brother in law DJ, he's coach there at Arkansas.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: We see him and so we're like, love you DJ. Yeah,
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: go coach Guessa, right, like, like, does is that appropriate?
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, Okay, yeah, because I.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Know he's working, Like we don't want him coming here
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: and banging on the window.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: If we did it every inning when everyone walked down,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: but he was right below us and he walked out
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: with Jay he loves Yeah. I mean, there's there's too much.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: We didn't do too much.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: No, we did not do too much.
• 12:53
  Speaker 6: So it says says the guys who did it, and.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: We didn't do We only did it one time.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: You had do Celtics stuff on today I'm shocked.
• 13:00
  Speaker 6: I know, I know, you know, it's kind of like
• 13:03
  Speaker 6: the Patriots, where I'm surprised they made it this far
• 13:05
  Speaker 6: and I'm trying to be positive about it.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: You're not surprised they were really good.
• 13:09
  Speaker 6: You're never really good during their regular season. I'm surprised
• 13:12
  Speaker 6: that they're out, Yeah, especially being up three to one
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: to like like that. I'm surprised that Missoula. Look, he's
• 13:17
  Speaker 6: a great coach, awesome coach, but man like they just
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: never changed anything and just kept jacking up threes. And
• 13:22
  Speaker 6: they've been doing this, but then he's stopped playing guys
• 13:26
  Speaker 6: that are on his bench that were key guys all year,
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: like the Shireman's, like the Jordan Walsh. These guys didn't
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: really play in the playoffs, the same guys that got
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: you that two seed, and he didn't really play and
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: which surprised me.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: They trow up that rotation though when it's playoff time
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: they do.
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: But like when you're about to blow a three one lead,
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: like yeah, let's try something else here, and then they
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: throw out Shiremen and I think Garza for start this
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: game seven. I was like, well, it's a little late now.
• 13:47
  Speaker 6: Now these guys are just be nervous. It's Game seven
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: and now you want to play. So I'm surprised that
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: they really stuck to the guns that much and didn't
• 13:55
  Speaker 6: really switch anything up. But yeah, I can't believe.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: They I'm surprised that you're wearing the sweatshirt like I
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: would think, like like when the Cowboys lose, they're out,
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: like they losing the playoffs whatever, like Cowboys stuff is
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: gone for at least a couple months.
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're embarrassed. Mostly, I just don't want to
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: see it because it makes me feel bad.
• 14:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: I mean it's a good point, don't get me wrong,
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: But I just this thing's just comfy, dude.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude is comfy.
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: You know, it's raining and we're just like just comfy.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: I agree. Yeah.
• 14:25
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Something we didn't get to talked about was Kevin has
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: two kids as twins, so I know you're dealing with
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: a babysitter issue. Where is do you pay a babysitter
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: double because it's twins or is it like one babysitting
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: job because there it's two, but it's like one, you
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: know one, it's kind of one because they're twins. What happened?
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: So last time we talked. I was going to meet
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: her that weekend, I believe, and we met her and
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: her husband. He didn't watch the kids with her, but
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: we just wanted to meet and greet first. She was great,
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: she's a nurse. To talk about that a little bit,
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: and we felt super comfortable with her right away, like,
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: all right, this is great. So then the following weekend,
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: last weekend, we went to the wedding. She came over
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: early after or late afternoon, and I was with the
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: kids because my wife was in the wedding. So she
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: had to leave, like three or four hours before me
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: to go do a bunch of stuff. And so I'm
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: sitting there like, Okay, she's got to come here. I
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: got to run her through. So we ran her through
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: some stuff and I left. And this is our first
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: time being away from kids without family watching him.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: It was awesome.
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: I only got one text the entire time. We're gone
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: for six hours, Yeah, about six hours, and the only
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: text was Hey, where's your trash can? At That's great,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: that's it. And she's like, yeah, white nervous. Honestly, she
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: was way like she handled it waybere I thought she would,
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: because she's the nervous one for sure out of us too,
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: like I'll be like, all right, see you later, Like
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: I need this break where she'll be more of like
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: I wonder what they're doing. I can't believe, like they're
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: just at home with this random girl. But she was great.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: I think it was because she was in the wedding,
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: so she was so busy and her mind was going
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: which hell, and she enjoyed the experience. She had a
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: great night. It was a great wedding.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: What do you pay?
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: We paid her thirty bucks an hour.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was total.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: I'm like that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: No, no, she's like thirteen. Maybe because we asked her,
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: were like, you know, what's your rate? We just don't
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: lose our first time. And she's like, well, well, at
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: first she goes, well usually I maybe sit for like
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: people with a lot of money, and we're like she
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: said that all wow.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: But then I'm here with you now and.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well I've really dropped a few levels.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: We're not usual people. So now she's like, my rate's
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: like twenty five to thirty, and I was like, all right,
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: we'll pay you thirty like two of them. Yeah, so yeah,
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: I've paid thirty bucks. It was well worth it. Now
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: could I do that every weekend? Absolutely not?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: What was the total?
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: Two hundred bucks for six hours?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: What do you pay? Nothing anymore? But I used to pay.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: It used to come out to like, yeah, like eighty
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: bucks at night. M gosh, dude, little boys and then yeah,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: and then you would like go to dinner.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Like some child labor laws are being broken.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: I had two hundred you paid eighty for four boys.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah for like three hours. You were gone for how hours?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Six?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Six? So like yeah, I was I mean, dude,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: think about going to dinner and spending one hundred and
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: twenty five dollars on dinner and then come back and
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: give a eighty dollars cash to like a young girl like,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: oh god.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Did you ever have any bad experiences?
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: No?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: But this is something funny. Funny story is the first
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: time we got a babysitter. I had no idea, so
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: like she it's just like Kevin was describing it made
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: me think about it when it's like, yeah, they come
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: over and then you're like, all right, here is the
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: fire stinguisher like any of that. But they eat at
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: this time, what they need, whatever, they need to go
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: to bed at this time, whatever, And then I just
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't even trying to be funny.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: But as we were walking out and like, hey, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: there's beer in the fridge, help yourself or whatever, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: my wife goes, no, no, don't help yourself to the beer.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, right, right, like I don't
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: want my babysitter drinking. But to me, it was the
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: first time I'd ever done that, and I thought like,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: why not, Like you're here all day, they fall asleep,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: and like, yeah, yourselet with brude. Like my wife's like, no,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: absolutely not.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Did you have food for your babysitter?
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: Okay? So I asked my wife that morning, I was like, hey,
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: should we have food? It hit me that day, I'm like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: should we do something food? I'm like, ah, she's a
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: nurse and she does this all the time. She probably
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: comes prepared and she's okay, and I regret it. We
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: didn't get anything. She brought like a bag of snacks,
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: and I was like, hey, you're welcome to anything in
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: the fridge, anything in the pantry, whatever, And then she
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: ended up just ordering a pizza, Like we should have
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: got her food.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Did you pay her for the pizza?
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: No?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: She could have the move for us is always like
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna order pizza, should be here in
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: ten minutes, and so when we leave, they get the pizza.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah. See, yeah, we should have done that. I regret that,
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: but hey it was the first one, you know. But
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: she's also she's pregnant now, so it's like, okay, well
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: she's not gonna last for you. We can't use her
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: for long.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Oh the baby's babysitter.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I told us that she's you know, early on,
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: but she's pregnant.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a few more months at least. Yeah, unless she's
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: sick the first time. Atter stuff for a lot of people.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, man, if you find somebody
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: though that you trust, always do the little things like
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: cover their freaking pizza after I.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Just just know, like babysitter usually you cover their dinner. Yeah,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: And if you forget, like like Bone said, yeah, give
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: her a little bit of money. I'm sorry, I completely forgot.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Here is now, if you kind of a sucky babysitter
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: and you just were using her one time because you
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: got a straight by it, that's different. But if like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: if it's something that you really want to be able
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: to use a lot.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: You really gotta make make them feel valued.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: You know what she did. I just thought about it too.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: She actually did text me and she's like, hey, do
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: you care if I uber eat something to your house?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Is that her way of like telling you didn't leave
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: me food?
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: You'd like, do you want to order me something?
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think something? Or do you think she was
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: just asking just be I think she was asking because
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: if for some reason you had a camera somebody saw
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: a car drive up, You're like, why is our car
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: at the house? Why is it? Yeah? I just think
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: it's a somebody. Also, she could be like, you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: maybe you don't want people know where you live. Maybe
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: you guys purposely don't have stuff delivered to your house.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder if she was asking because of like allergies,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: you know, like do your kids have allergies or whatever?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Like if I uber eat something?
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the kids were asleep by no.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: No, But I don't know.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: But I appreciate that.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But overall success, when do you think you're going to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: be dealing with this?
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Soon ish, we don't have any childcare
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: now we have friends. One time we only left one time.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: We had to prank them over. We went to therapy.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, a man.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: How how did your wife do? And you're gone for
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: an hour?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: It's only an hour, but still it's the first time
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I've been gone a lot, so I didn't even think
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: of it as that, right, because I'm gone every day
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: And we were in the car and we're driving. Is
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: this the first time we've both been gone? I was like, really,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: because you're always both of us.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I was like, huh, how about that? Uh? I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: she did great. She has a friend that she really
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: trusts that has had a bunch of babies or that's important.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I guess a bunch of two. But yeah, yeah, so yeah,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know. We haven't got there yet.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: How was your your weekend away from the baby?
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Did you easy?
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Is he?
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So so easy? I mean yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: It was easy for a couple of reasons. One, her
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: parents were there, so I was my fear would have
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: been on her more than anything, like she just overwhelmed.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: So her parents were there, so I was good.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: That's it. Yeah, that's good.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: That helped.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you get a family, if she's by herself. Yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: and her parents came in. They had planned a long
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: time ago because I told my wife I want to
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: leave for two months after she had the baby. This
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: was the first trip that I was leaving on. Yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: and so her parents were like, hey, when he leaves,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: this is like a month and a half ago, we'll
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: come into town. He's gonna be gone for a couple
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: of days, so we'll just come because it'll be time
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: for us to come back. Anyway, we had been there
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: in a month, and so it was planned out a
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: long time ago that they would drive in. So they
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: were there, they got there. We left on Thursday evening.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: They got to like Thursday afternoons. So I hung out
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: with them a little bit. And it was difficult because
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: we got in Saturday night, but Sunday morning at three am, Yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: super late, so I had to be up at like
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: six thirty withth baby. That sucked, But I did get
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: to say bye to them, and then I'm I'm just
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: now caught up on the week, Like where I'm feeling
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: normal again.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Is your father in law pumped about the thunder.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: They won last year? So I don't know if he's pumped.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I think he just enjoys it. He enjoys having a winner. Now,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: he watches every game. I think he was pumped last year. Now,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: not that it's expected, but there is an expectation because
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: they win all the time.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: Pretty good, Yeah, right, really good.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: So the Lakers didn't look bad last night, thunder just
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: so they're just so good. They just so affoicate, suffocate
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you defensively. Yeah, and Chet played really well last night.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: And Jalen didn't even play, right Williams one of the Williams,
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I saw him on the bench in
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: the street clothes.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Then that means he didn't play, didn't play. All right,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: let's break and we'll come back with Philly's first baseman,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: former Phillies first basement stud, Ryan Howard.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: All.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: We're going to welcome in Ryan Howard, Phillies' legend, two
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: thousand and eight World Series champion, two thousand and six
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: National League MVP, Rookie of the Year, really one of
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the greatest power hitters of me watching baseball. He has
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: a new podcast now with another Phillies legend, Jimmy Rollins,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: called the six to one to one podcast. You love Baseball,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: You Love the Phillies. Check it out. Ryan is here now, Ryan,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: first question, how much does a manager actually matter? And
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I think you know where I'm going with this.
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: Well, Bobby, I'm gonna say that I don't know where
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: you're going. All right, Well, a manager does matter. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: think the manager has to keep the mood in the
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: clubhouse nice and calm and easy. I know with uh, well,
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna let you take it there. I'm gonna let
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: you take it there. I'm not gonna get ahead of you.
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: But but but with a manager, it's it's just doing that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: You're managing the game, you're watching the game, you're seeing
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: how things go. I think the great managers have a
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: tendency of just letting their players play, do their thing,
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: and then they make the moves as they need to
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: make the moves.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I asked, because with the Phillies firing Rob Thompson and
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Don Maddingley taking over, you know it can and there'd
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: be a culture change. I know we're not mid season,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: but early enough in the season that it actually affects
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: team play.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, there can be a culture change.
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: I think that obviously with with what's kind of taking
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: place with the Phillies, it's you know, the guys were
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: kind of underperforming.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: I don't really know what was going on in the clubhouse.
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: You know, usually when there's something like that that's taking place,
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: there's got to be some kind of change, and usually
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: a lot of times the managers that the first one
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: to kind of take the heat, so, you know, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: in terms of that whole situation, there's one thing I
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: always say too, is that players also have to be accountable.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: I've been on teams, you know, that have had.
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: Bad stretches and the mannerier kind of takes the heat
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: for it all. But the players also have to take accountability.
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: And that was one of the things that I remember
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: when I was kind of going through a stretch like that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: As a player, It's like, hey, what do we what
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: are we doing right?
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: We've got to try to do better and be better,
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: you know, at some point, you know, everybody's got to
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: be accountable for their own actions. So, you know, I
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: think the team has kind of turning around. They've gotten
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: a few wins under the belt, and that team is
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: just way too talented to have kind of underperformed the
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: way they have. But luckily, the Phillies' history in April
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: is not is not the best, but hey, that's why
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: you've still got a lot of season left and it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: a marathon, not a sprint.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: How do you feel about the ABS system?
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: The ABS system I think is great. Actually would have
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: loved to have it when I was playing. Probably would
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: have knocked down some strikeouts or whatnot. But I think
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: what it's all about is about getting the calls right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: And I don't think it's tough for umpires to not
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: take it personal. You can understand that, but I think
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: ultimately it becomes a tool to where everybody can get
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: better and you get a full understanding of what the
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: strike zone is and a consistent understanding of what the
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: strike zone is. I think the umpires are going to
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: continue to get better with that, catchers, the pictures, the
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: hitters once everybody gets a better understanding of what that
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: strike zone is in being able to utilize it and
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: the challenges. Right now, all of a sudden, you're implementing
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: these challenges, and you've got to be strategic with these
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: challenges because you don't want to necessarily use their challenges
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: up too early.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: In the game if you miss them.
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: So I think it's a cool addition to the game
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: where it's just all about trying to get things right
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: because it can change the flow of a game one
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: way or the other.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's fun for fans because it gives us
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: something like it's almost like that cup thing where it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: like which balls under the cup and they start spinning
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the cups and you got to watch it between innings.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Like it's a little bit of that, but like game affected.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: What I do like about it the most though, is
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the people that are running that system are live in
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: the umpire's ears. So even when people aren't challenging it,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: they're telling the umpires like, hey, you're a little outside today,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: like you're a little inside. So the real game feedback
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I think is great for the game.
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, absolutely, because ultimately, at the end of the day,
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: you just want to have the insistency and you want
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: to have the right call so that ultimately you get
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: into a situation where now it's like the players can
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: determine the game.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: You don't want to have.
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: It be where you know there's a there's a big
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: situation where you know a team's got runners on and
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: they're either down and they can tie the game or
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: they can go ahead, and then the umpire makes a
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: call and it ends the game and ultimately can end
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: a season or do something like that. But again, you've
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: got to be smart with your challenges because if that
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: team goes and you uses those challenges up early in
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: the game to where you get to that situation and
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: all of a sudden, we need that challenge and we
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: don't have it, then you just, hey, you're you're at
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: the expense of the umpire and those guys are out
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: there trying to so you know, they're they're human, They're
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: gonna make mistakes, but it happens in the blink of
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: an eye, and you're just trying to do the best
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: they can out there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Was there a version of what the Dodgers are doing
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: now in the National League when you were play not
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: the same same, but like they just spend all the
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: money and have all the players. Was there one of
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: those teams when you were in the league?
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Uh? NL? Not really, not really.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: I mean the Dodgers always had, you know, great rosters
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: and talented players, but not to the extent of what
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: they've been able to go out and go do now.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: But I mean, yeah, I mean, if you had to
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: look at a team, you'd have to say that team
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: was the Yankees, even though they were in al.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: The Braves may be the team that could play with
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers. You feel like anybody in the in the
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: NL can actually make it to the World Series other
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: than the Dodgers.
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there's I mean, there's teams. It's gonna be tough.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, look, with what the Dodgers are doing and
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: how they're playing right now, it's it's very hard to
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: overlook them. But again, you mentioned it, the Braves. The
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: Braves are playing really well at a very very high clip.
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: This is the first time in you know, however many
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: years that the Braves have been fully healthy and had,
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: you know, their horses on the field all at the
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: same time. I mean, you're getting great, great hitting, you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: getting great pitching. They're just playing great all around team baseball.
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: Sneakily kind of back on the radar.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: Look, it's it's a little bit of a of a
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: of a long shot, but these guys are playing great
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: baseball too. You can't necessarily overlook the Cardinals. It's it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: just all about who's playing good ball at the right time.
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: I think the Phillies, you know, get back on track
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: with anything and any team, Dodgers included, Like, you've got
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: to stay healthy over the course of the season. The
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: Dodgers have so much depth, you know, you can probably
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: afford to have guys you know, go down at some point.
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: But when it comes to September, October, like those later months,
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: you've got to be healthy to be able to make
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: it and make a big run in the postseason.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: So it's going to come down to a lot of
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: that as well.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: How would you get out of a slump?
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: I would usually try to It depends on what I
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: was doing.
• 29:50
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think a lot of the times, if
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: I was pulling the ball a lot early on, I
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: would try to just kind of back the ball up
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: a little bit more and let it get a little
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: bit deeper, maybe take a couple of abs and just
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: tell myself, hey, I'm going to jam myself no matter what,
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: and try to kind of stay back up the middle
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: of the field. And so by doing that, it's allowing
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: me to let the ball travel and watch the ball
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: and track the ball a little bit more into the bat,
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: and then as I start to make that contact, then
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: I can kind of start to push my contact point
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: forward just a little bit more, a little bit more,
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: a little bit more, and then boom, all of a sudden,
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: there it is. And then starting to work my way
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: back in the middle of the field, left center, right center,
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: and to left field.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Would there be at bats where you're going up knowing
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you're just trying to get yourself out of a slump,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: no pressure to actually get on base, You're just trying
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: to like progress a bit.
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, sometimes you just you got to say, you know what,
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: no matter what happens here, I'm just going to chalk
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: it up because this is what my focus is right now.
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: So it may take me a couple of bats to
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: let the ball travel. As long as I can start
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: tracking the ball again the way and get my timing
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: down the way I want it to, I know that
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: it's gonna start to come back, and then I'm gonna
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: start squaring balls up these next two maybe three at
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: bats or whatnot, depending upon what the situations are. Is
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: I want to let the ball kind of get deeper
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: on me and start trying to track it and kind
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: of catch it if I can.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I'm an Arkansas baseball fan Missouri state like quietly they're
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: freaking good. They're always they're those boys fight, like when
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: you play for Missouri State. Was it the same kind
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: of team?
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, great, great program.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I think it's a very underrated program.
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: We would always play Arkansas every year, missoo Kansas schools
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: like that. Now they're playing you know, they're playing the
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: big boys every year, still playing those guys playing Oklahoma
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: State yearly. It's always been a very gritty program. I mean,
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: the guys that come out of there just you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: you look at Drake Baldwin. You know, We've had some
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: guys Jake Berger, Luke Voyd, like a lot of guys
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: that have come out of there. Brad Zigler. Brad Ziggler
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: and I played together, we were we were there at
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: the same time. So it's it's a it's a program
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: that is is a very hard working program and it's
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: still i think on on the up and up.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: How much time did you spend in the miners. Did
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: you do the whole travel around on the bus thing?
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely absolutely we were.
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: What was it started out once I got drafted Batavia,
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: New York and New York Penn League and then went
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: to South Atlantic League Lakewood, New Jersey, where we had
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: I think at that time we were the furthest team
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: North and we would travel down to Georgia, South Carolina, Georgia,
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: you know, seventeen hour bus rides. So yeah, got the
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: got the full experience. And I was in the minor
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: leagues for three three and a half years. I got
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: September call up in four, drafted in OH one, September
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: call up in O four, and then five. Was started
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: out in Triple A and then Tommy got hurt and
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: went went up for a little bit, went back down
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: when he came back, and he got hurt again, was
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: out for the rest of the season, and then was
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: up the rest of the year and five and the
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: rest was history.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Your call up moment, was it pretty cool or they
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: tell you just like hey, you're up your head now?
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: No, it's it's always cool man. They they understand like
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: this is what you work for. This is a dream
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: come true. And I mean I understood just the opportunity
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: right where I understood that Tommy was hurt for you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: he was going to be on the the back.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Then they called the d L.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: But like the I L for like two weeks, so
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: I knew I was only going to really be up
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: for two weeks until he came back, But was really
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: just going to try to go up and just do
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: the best that I could and.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Soak it all in.
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: And uh, once I once I got up up early
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: on in five and then like late in four, was
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: really like looking at like, Okay, this is the big leagues,
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: Like this is this is awesome, Like this.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Is what you aspire to. So having that opportunity was.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Amazing when you got up. Was there anyone you thought
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: it was really cool to actually see in person that
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: you'd watched as a kid.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, everybody. Just the whole experience.
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: I was like when when I first got called up
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: in September, I think we went Gavin Floyd and I
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: were same draft class and we both got called up
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: September of four, and I think our first road trip
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: was to Atlanta.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: And you know, you're you're you're in the minor league.
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: So like you get to the to the hotels like
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: you're usually you're bunking up with somebody, right, you got
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: to you got a roommate, and we get in, we
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: get we checked in at the hotel and I walk
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: in and I'm looking and there's like a king bed
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: in there and I'm was like, wait, but there's no
• 34:57
  Speaker 9: we don't have roommates.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: So that was the that was cool for me. I
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: was like, oh man, we don't have roommates. We get
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: our own room. Oh this is amazing.
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: So you know that that was kind of the first
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: first part of getting up there. But I think just
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: seeing all the guys that you've grown up watching and
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: now you have the ability to be able to step
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: on the same field and play with and against some
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: of these guys was was an amazing feeling.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Is it the six on one podcast? Because you guys numbers?
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Because that's not the area code?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Is it what?
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Because you guys?
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: The funny part about it is is that, yes, it
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: is our numbers, because I was number six and Jimmy
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: was number eleven. But it's also and we didn't necessarily
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: realize it at the time, but it's also the street
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: exit for Broad Street in Philadelphia. So the whole thing
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: just kind of came together with like that and just
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: all made sense.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: When you guys do your podcast, I'm assuming you're like
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: across the board with baseball, right, it's not just Philly stuff,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: but it's you guys both played for the Philly c
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: you have very you know, in depth knowledge of the Phillies,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: but you're talking to other other players and like clubhouse
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: stuff right inside baseball.
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there's there's definitely the baseball base but we've talked
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: to We definitely talked to entertainers, rappers, other baseball players
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: from other squads. We've talked to business moduls, entrepreneurs, so
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: we diversify the portfolio.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: So we h.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: We definitely have the baseball talk, but we definitely want
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: to have the outreach of being able to reach different
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: genres and different people.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Final question for you, and I was a big fan
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: of yours while you played, but do people ever come
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: up to you and go, hey, you're that dude from
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: the office.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: I've had some people I'd go get coffee at morning
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: in the morning sometimes and and they would recognize me
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: more so from that than ever playing baseball. They wouldn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: have known that I played baseball, but they were like, hey,
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: you look familiar, Like have you.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Been on the Office.
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: And I did a couple other shows where it was like,
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: you know, always Sunny and and then Entourage, and so
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: it was just funny because people would recognize me more
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: so from some of those than actually playing baseball.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: The office thing was legit though, because you actually acted
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: a bit, because you had the role of like, hey,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: I got this script. Like it wasn't just like you
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: showed up and it was a cameo. You actually acted.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Did you prepare for that or were you just good
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: at it?
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, there was a little bit of preparation.
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: But they made it easy for me, you know, it
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: was I mean, it was me basically kind of, you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: being myself, and yeah, there was there was a script.
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: So you know, if I can't be myself, then I
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: don't know what. I don't know what I'm doing. But
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: but it was it was easy. They they made it
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: so so smooth and effortlessly like fun.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: I mean that was the first thing. The guys were like,
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: hey man, just do yourself.
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: Have fun, like say things how you would normally say it,
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: and they that's all we're gonna do.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: We're just we're gonna have some fun with this, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: that was it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I really appreciate the time and hope everybody checks out
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: the six to one one podcast. Uh Ryan Howard, you
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: guys follow him too on Instagram. Ryan Howard Underscore Double six.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Really appreciate the time, and again I was a big fan.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I'm a massive Cubs fan. We weren't in the same division,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: so that was good so I could be a fan.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: But uh yeah, you were fun to watch, Ryan, So
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I really appreciate the time, Bobby.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: I appreciate you man. Thank you for having me on.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: See you Ryan. All right, let's welcome in Mike Workanov,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: national NBA reporter for the Athletic Basketball Business Reporter, someone
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: who I look to whenever I can't really understand how
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: the NBA works behind the scenes. He also hosts Business Decision,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: which is the podcast he does where he breaks down
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: all of this the intersection of sports money power, so
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: be sure to go check it out. Mike, really appreciate
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: you jumping on. I do want to talk about tanking first,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: if you're ready to tackle that with me.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Sure, I was gonna say, I don't know if I
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: always understand how the NBA works, but I'll give it
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: a try.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's what I need help with because
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I've read the you know, the meaningful changes from Adam
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Silver about tanking, like what are we doing here next year?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to figure out how to just shortcut
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: this answer. Basically, they're gonna try to find a way
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: or they think they found the way where they can
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, try to incentivize teams to be
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: better versions of themselves.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: Right, let's put.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: It like that, and instead of trying to be as
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: bad as they can be to maximize their lottery odds,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: like they will. You know this Sunday when we got
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: we got the latest draft lottery coming up. They're changing
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: the odds basically, where you're trying to be middle bad
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: instead of horribly bad and hope that when it gets
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: to March in April, you're trying to win more games
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: than you are, just like benching all your best players,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: and we see an elevated version of college basketball in
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: those months.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: When I was reading about it when it first came out,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: it definitely was if you're the worst, you have worse odds.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: It's weird to say worst versus better, but your odds
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: aren't as good to get the first pick if you're
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: the worst team to incentivize yeah, those teams not finishing
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: last last, but then what if you literally have the
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: absolute worst team and you need to get one of
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: those top picks.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the problem with this, and I think
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: this is something that there have been complaints about even
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: this current lottery system, which is that they watered down
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the odds for the worst teams. And you know, some
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: people said, like, hey, isn't the whole point in the
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: draft to give the best prospects to the worst teams,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: right to try to make them better? And I think
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: that you could argue, like, hey, there's a reason that
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: some of these teams like the Jazz and the Wizards
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: are in the lottery for a longer period of time
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: is because they're not getting the top pics, so they're
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: not getting the best players, and so they're just worse
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: for a longer period of time.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: And this probably will not solve it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Right, Like, if you're if you're authentically bad, let's say that, right,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: you have lost with integrity because you are just really
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: bad at putting out rosters and you're the worst team
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: in the league.
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: This is not going to help you.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: It's trying to stop the teams that are tanking, not
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: the teams that are just like bad by their own
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: you know, bad decision making.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I was looking at all the number one picks over
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: the past few years and I really felt bad for
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hawks, Like they finally get the number one
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: pick and it's like the one year, one year that
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: it's not a player that would actually change an organization.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the timing is so much of it too, Like,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: you know, it's funny this is happening now because all
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: the smart draft people say the next two drafts.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: Are not gonna be that great either.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: So it could be another, you know, version of that
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: situation like the Hawks had if you had, you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: the number two pick in twenty twenty. The Warriors had
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: that and James Wiseman right, Like, imagine if they got
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: a great number two pick and how that team would
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: have looked now. So timing matters so much so when
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: your bad really matters, there's just so much that goes
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: into it. Not to mention the MVP shake. Gildis Alexander
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: was the number eleven pick, Yokich was the second round pick,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: like Gianna's number fifteen.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: All great players come from everywhere.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Let's talk expansion. Are the Seahawks, excuse me this, the Seahawks?
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: The Super Sonics? Are they going to exist again?
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: They very well may.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: It is looking like the NBA is going down the
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: road for expansion, So the Sonics maybe a team in Vegas.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe though I don't know what that
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: nickname is going to be. But like the NBA is
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: looking at it, it looks like they're trying to get
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: a good price for teams there, and they're really this
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: is the closest they've ever come to expansion.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: They've been dancing around it for so long.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: But I think we'll know an answer well may like
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I would say, by the end of twenty twenty six,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: we should know where that's going.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: A lot of the Las Vegas talk has been possibly
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Lebron would be part of an ownership group in Las Vegas.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Do you think the NBA would allow a guy to
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: play and also be part owner.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Well, they definitely won't allow that. That's part of their
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: CBA and their rules. And you know, Lebron seems like
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: he's out on it too. Mi Collie and I Joe
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Varden we reported earlier this spring like he's out on
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: trying to get an expansion team, and it had been
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: something he had wanted for so long, right, and he
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: talked about publicly for so long. But the firm that
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: he's a partner in fenwly Sports Group which owns Liverpool
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: and the Red Sox. They're out on trying to get
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: an NBA expansion team, so Lebron for now is also
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: out on trying to get one.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: You hear from a lot of people, I feel at
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: times ill educated people about how the ratings of the
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: NBA have dropped so much. But I think for me,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: what I've been able to see is people are consuming
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: the NBA differently, and I could be completely wrong. What
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: are your thoughts on the NBA and just generally ratings talk.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: I'm tired of it, honestly, for a lot of reasons.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: One is the ratings don't matter, right, Like, the ratings
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: were down and the NBA still got this behemoth seventy
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: six billion dollar media rights deal despite all that, and
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: now ratings are up this year, and that's for a.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: Number of reasons.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: One of them is that there's a lot of games
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: on NBC and it's easier to watch games on NBC
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: than it is on TNT. The other there's some inflation
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: going on with Nielsen ratings and how they count it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: But honestly, like if you're an NBA fan, just watch
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: the basketball or don't. Who cares how many other people
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: watch the basketball or don't. I feel like this is
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: wholly individual to the NBA as opposed to baseball and
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: to the NFL and hockey, Like sometimes just enjoy the
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: sport that you like and who cares who's along.
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: For the ride with you?
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: To me, when that headline comes up, when those stories
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: come up, it feels a bit like whenever the story
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: is that a movie studio paid four hundred million to
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: make the movie and only made two hundred and thirty
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: million back, Like that's so inside. It's like, I don't know.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: My friends like watching the movie. I really don't care
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: how much the movie studio spent on the movie and
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: how much it made back.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like that's their money and not yours. If
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: it was a good movie, that's you know, then you
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: like it, and if not, like you don't you move on?
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: I think, I don't know. That's the same thing.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I think there are better questions to be had about
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: the state of like what the actual Encourt product looks
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: like and where that's going, and how you know and
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: tanking and how teams are built than there is about
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: the rating stuff.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: I was reading an article about shoes and how you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: some of the shoe companies aren't selling as many shoes,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: especially basketball shoes, because of one of the theories was
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: limited star power. What are your thoughts on that.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: I think it's interesting.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: I think it kind of like, I mean, not to
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: bring it back to the ratings thing, but it's also
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: just about it's harder to build stars nowadays.
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: Right, there's the monoculture that everyone talks about, so it's
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: harder to break through. So it makes sense that if
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: you're depending on stars to sell shoes, and it's harder
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: to build a star, then it would be harder to
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: sell shoes, right.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: And I think just looking at you know, that whole business,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: it seems like everyone's kind of trending towards ath leisure
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: and all that, and you know, influencers are now selling
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: shoes or selling shoes or selling apparel and all that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: So I think everyone is just looking for different places
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: to have sponsors sell their products, and so maybe the
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: sponsorship from the Mad Player it just doesn't go as
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: far as it used to.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: It feels like if I were thinking about it now,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: like whose shoe would I want? It honestly would be
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Kaitlyn Clark. And that's crazy to say, because like, I
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: don't play women's basketball. I'm not a woman. But it's
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: if it's pick a star who'd put out a shoe
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: that you genuinely because I'm a shoe guy, I think
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: I would like the Caitlyn Clark. I think she almost
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: transcends all the dudes that aren't that last we'll say
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: last generation that still play the steps the Lebron's because
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: the new guys. You're right, everything is so fractional now,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: it's so hard to be famous generally in media, in
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: basketball in general, and like Caitlin Clark has a bit
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: transcended that. Am I insane?
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: No?
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: I think you're totally right.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Whenever her signature shoe drops, like, I bet that's gonna
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: sell a lot of pairs. Like the Sabrina I and
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Escu shoe super popular, right, like both among NBA players.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: You see a lot of NBA players wearing the sabrina
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Is on the court and then also just you know,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: selling to folks too in stores. And so Caitlyn's probably
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest most famous athletes in America period, right,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: So why wouldn't she be the great person to have
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: a great selling signature shoe.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: I know you used to work with the Knicks. They're
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: pretty good.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Ye Are you a Knicks fan? I know because I
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: know you were covering the Knicks. Do you like the Knicks?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I listen, I grew up in the New York area,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: so I was a Knicks fan growing up. But then
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: when you start covering the Knicks and you're covering sports,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: that gets sucked out of you real quick. But I'm
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: a fan of g I think that arena is great. So,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: like you know, I was there for game one for
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Nick Sixers and that that was an awesome place to
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: be and that place was awesome when the teams I
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: covered when they're horrible and the place was still like
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: thriving in the fourth quarter of a tight game.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like a thirty nine point win, right that
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: that game won?
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: I mean, that was that was wild. That was blow.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: I did not expect that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: That is a team though, like the Sixers, and you
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: can give me your opinion. They just played seven games,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: so usually game one after a seven game set usually
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: doesn't end well for that team that just played seven.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: But a thirty nine point defeat, that's a that's a
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: bit disheartening if you're if you're a Sixers player.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and like the Knicks are rolling right now.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I was looking up after that game. They've like they've
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: got the largest four game margin of victory ever in
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: NBA playoff history. Like they're doing things over the last
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: four games that teams just have not done in the
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: league before.
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: And so how long does that last?
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Because if you're gonna win every game by thirty, you're
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: probably winning the title, right, Like, it's just there on
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: this hot streak that we haven't seen.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: What's with the Knicks? And I'll just sit here for
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: a second because I'm so curious ownership to coaching that
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: it feels like it'd be a tough place to have
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: to work under that ownership group. Your thoughts for working
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: under that ownership group.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a that's a really tough job for them.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: James Dolan is a you know, demanding owner. He is
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: a very peculiar owner. Look, he already set the expectations
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: for that team for this season when he set out
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: he thinks it's a title winning team.
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: So you know where that's going, right.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Tom Thibodeau got the team the furthest It's gone in
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: twenty five years last year and got fired anyway, So
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Mike Brown knows the expectations and New York is demanding place,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: and I think, yeah, I mean, look, you get a
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: lot of resources, but man, you're walking a tight ship there.
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: I think you got to you gotta get what the
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: owner is looking for.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Are you watching every game?
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Am I?
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, it's the playoffs?
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: Why not?
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean some of them are late. I don't
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: know where you live, but.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: You met every playoff, every playoff game, every next game.
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: No, I'm not watching it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I mean listen, I I pass out on the couch
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: at nine o'clock. Sometimes I'll admit to that and then
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I'll catch up the next morning. But I can't always
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: stay up till like two o'clock in the morning.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm watched same spent Those West Coast games kill me.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: And I have League Pass and I try to even
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: during the season watch as much like it just stays
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: on even if I'm not watching it, like I'm trying
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: to absorb through a bit osmosis even you know, watching
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: some of these teams. And it's interesting that East is
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to say wide open now because I
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: don't think anyone expected the Celtics to especially to blow
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: that series like they did. But the Knicks a real shot.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, the Pistons a real shot. Who do you
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: think comes out of the East.
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: I still give the seventy six Ers a real shot.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Like, I know, they got blowed to smithereens in Game one,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: but that happened in the Boston series too, And to
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: your point, like they talked about it afterward, they're going
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: from highly emotional, high leverage Game seven to Game one
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: forty eight hours. I think took a lot out of them.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: So I'm kind of curious to see what they're going
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: to do tonight at MSG. But I think it's between
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: the Pistons, the Knicks, and the UH and the seventy
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Sixers to come out of the ease.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. I just don't trust embiid ever to
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: even show up for the game. And it's just something's
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: wrong and it's it's not his fault, like in an appendix,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: his appendix ruptured. So but yeah, if EMBD plays, Yeah,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: I agree that the Sixers are really good. I just
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: don't have any trust he's going to show up and
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: be able to play. Most games.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: No, I mean he could he arrives the NBA games
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: and one of those boxes label fragile, right like, But
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: it then when he plays and he takes the court
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: and you watch him move pregame and you're like, how's
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: this guy gonna do it for forty minutes?
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: And then somehow he does and when he plays, he's
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: just a huge difference maker.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: But you just you don't know if he's going to play,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: you know, if it's a seven game series all seven
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: or this is the last game he plays.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: One final question. How how many more years you think
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Lebron has?
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Oh man, oh h that's top. I feel like before
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: this year I would have guessed none. But I feel
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: like the way that this year is gone, he's going
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: to attack on another year after this.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: He's been the Lakers. I mean he won that series
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: that that that it was him, right, because I mean
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Austin Reeves none, Luca none, So it definitely was Lebron. Hatchiemura.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you count that if you know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: but Lebron was the dude. So yeah, do you think
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: he does a farewell tour? He loves Lebron loves you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: the adulation does Lebron do announce it.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like it because then you could just like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: you know, help all the things, all the companies he
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: partners with just like leverages into this long farewell tour.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Nike does a whole thing. He can record it behind
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: the scenes. Yeah, I mean, like, when was the last
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: time someone just suddenly shockingly retired a star of that magnitude.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: It was like, I think it was probably Tim Duncan.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I want to say, like Tom Brady tried to just
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: up and quit and then he had to do it again.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Anyway, I really appreciate the time business decision with Mike
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: working op and get you do such a great job.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: And yeah, thanks for hopping on with us and and
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: teaching us a few things because sometimes man that I
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: still don't think that the tanking thing is gonna work.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you fix the tanking thing though,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Like I don't have a good idea. It's not like
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting here from the rafters going I know how
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: to fix it. I don't know how to fix it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's a trial run. They're going to run it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: They already said it. They'reright.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: We look and you know, well we're gonna do is
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: for three years and twenty twenty nine. We're gonna see
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: what works and try it again. And if maybe there's
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: expansion and they have to put a new thing out there.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: So I don't know that they're thinking it's a long
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: term this fixes everything solution anyway, all.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Right, check out Business Decision. Hey, Mike, thanks for the time.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: See later, man. All right, that'll do it. Thank you
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: guys for being here. I appreciate you listening to the podcast.
• 52:36
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• 52:39
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• 52:41
  Speaker 4: down there that helps us. I don't know, maybe back
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: this week. Maybe we won't. It's just a weird time.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: There's nothing going on.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a playoffs and then it's gonna last forever.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm closer to football is when it really starts rocking.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: You gotta hear us have to do an NFL show
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: and when there's nothing going on.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's tough.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Well, what's your favorite dinosaur.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Team logo? That's tough. Yeah, that gets the draft was
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: probably fun for a little bit.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: What's the most fun letter? Well, do that for thirty minutes.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: We're like, all right, we'll see you next week.
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: Go to the alpha bit.
• 53:12
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