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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to The Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
- 0:06Speaker 1: to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
- 0:09Speaker 1: we are talking about the chaos in France as we
- 0:13Speaker 1: watch rioters set the country on fire. We're going to
- 0:17Speaker 1: dig into all of it and get to the truth
- 0:19Speaker 1: with investigative journalist Asrat Nomani. She writes for Fox News Digital,
- 0:24Speaker 1: and her latest reporting has exposed a sprawling network of
- 0:29Speaker 1: communist organizations, radical left-wing activists, and pro-Palestinian groups that are
- 0:34Speaker 1: helping to organize and amplify these riots across France and Europe. Now,
- 0:39Speaker 1: she's identified more than 100 organizations across nine countries, which
- 0:44Speaker 1: raises serious questions about who's behind this unrest, who's funding it,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and why.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Stay tuned for Asra and Amani. Well, Esra, it's great
- 0:56Speaker 2: to have you on the show. You are doing amazing
- 0:59Speaker 2: work for Fox News Digital, really digging in to the
- 1:03Speaker 2: chaos that we're seeing take place in France and elsewhere
- 1:06Speaker 2: in Europe. So really appreciate the work you're doing and
- 1:09Speaker 2: also taking the time for the show.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Absolutely, Lisa.
- 1:12Speaker 4: I'm so happy to work at Fox News Digital and
- 1:15Speaker 4: basically do what I love to do and do it
- 1:21Speaker 4: for a living.
- 1:22Speaker 3: You know, it's just... I feel... Like, this is really
- 1:25Speaker 3: noble work that we're doing. Well, it absolutely is.
- 1:28Speaker 2: And, you know, we are all watching in astonishment, looking
- 1:32Speaker 2: at the chaos and the rioting taking place throughout France.
- 1:37Speaker 2: A lot has been attributed to why this started, what's
- 1:42Speaker 2: driving it, but you've really been digging in to a
- 1:46Speaker 2: lot of the financial aspects of it as well and
- 1:48Speaker 2: the coordination aspects. What do you, from your research and
- 1:53Speaker 2: your investigation, what is driving these protests?
- 1:58Speaker 3: Why are they happening?
- 2:00Speaker 4: Yeah. So for your listeners that might not know, I
- 2:03Speaker 4: worked at the Wall Street Journal for 15 years and
- 2:06Speaker 4: I covered everything from the commodities market to the airline industry.
- 2:10Speaker 4: So I have always looked at the world through the
- 2:14Speaker 4: lens of business. And that's exactly how I approach this
- 2:19Speaker 4: mayhem that we're seeing. When I see those signs in
- 2:24Speaker 4: Paris and throughout the country, I see signs and signals
- 2:29Speaker 4: of the enterprises behind that chaos. And that's why I've
- 2:36Speaker 4: coined this term for our thought process and all of
- 2:40Speaker 4: this of calling it Chaos Incorporated, because it is a
- 2:45Speaker 4: network of organizations that has unleashed these foot soldiers onto
- 2:51Speaker 4: the streets for very clear mission statements. And so it's
- 2:55Speaker 4: just like covering a company. You want to know, oh,
- 2:58Speaker 4: it's Coca-Cola. They're trying to sell beverages. You know, the
- 3:01Speaker 4: United Airlines, they're trying to fly people around the country and.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Around the world.
- 3:06Speaker 4: What are these organizations trying to do? So I always
- 3:09Speaker 4: dive into the mission of all these organizations. And what
- 3:12Speaker 4: I've learned now, Lisa, over a second round of research
- 3:17Speaker 4: that we just published today at Fox News Digital, you
- 3:21Speaker 4: can see it on our website, foxnews.com, is that there
- 3:24Speaker 4: are 101 organizations that have unleash these foot soldiers onto
- 3:32Speaker 4: the streets of France and are planning to do more
- 3:35Speaker 4: protests this weekend and into November. They are connected through
- 3:42Speaker 4: ideological purpose as communists and socialists and far left organizations
- 3:50Speaker 4: working together with some Islamist organizations that have their singular
- 3:57Speaker 4: mission of destroying the state of Israel. and replacing Western
- 4:02Speaker 4: democracies with their visions for Islamic theocracies. And so the
- 4:08Speaker 4: big picture is that what looks like just mayhem and
- 4:13Speaker 4: spontaneous outrage even on the streets is part of a
- 4:18Speaker 4: established infrastructure of organizations that has mobilized people across national borders.
- 4:26Speaker 4: And they are a well-funded, well-coordinated, well-established enterprise. Their goal
- 4:34Speaker 4: is the overthrow of democracy as we know it and
- 4:40Speaker 4: the pushing of a model of economic enterprise that can
- 4:46Speaker 4: be called socialism or communism, but it would be the
- 4:49Speaker 4: end of free enterprise as we know it.
- 4:51Speaker 2: The start of these protests, was that organic, do you believe?
- 4:55Speaker 2: And then these groups capitalized off of it? Or did
- 4:58Speaker 2: these groups, you know, encourage the start of the protesting
- 5:03Speaker 2: and rioting?
- 5:04Speaker 4: Yeah, Lisa, it's such a great question. And I have
- 5:06Speaker 4: had to check myself too, because the A real important
- 5:12Speaker 4: lens through which I would encourage everyone to look at
- 5:16Speaker 4: all news and all and these protests is what is
- 5:19Speaker 4: the narrative that's being shaped? And immediately they shaped this
- 5:23Speaker 4: narrative as student protests.
- 5:25Speaker 3: But what they actually.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Were, was these far left political parties and communist groups
- 5:33Speaker 4: using their student and youth chapters to weaponize issues within
- 5:42Speaker 4: the educational system as the grievances for which these young
- 5:46Speaker 4: people would go out on the streets.
- 5:48Speaker 3: So it was a very clear political agenda.
- 5:50Speaker 4: There's a, party uh that the the um translation is
- 5:56Speaker 4: france unbowed but the acronym is lfi i don't have
- 6:01Speaker 4: enough french honor to throw all these french names at
- 6:04Speaker 4: you with fluency.
- 6:06Speaker 2: But i can't even order a french wine without butchering
- 6:10Speaker 2: it so i'm like i'll.
- 6:12Speaker 4: Get the mouth back isn't that french yeah exactly exactly.
- 6:16Speaker 3: You know right um.
- 6:18Speaker 4: Yeah, so Lisa, it was LFI that has unleashed its
- 6:24Speaker 4: student and youth chapters. And there is this iconic picture
- 6:28Speaker 4: that some people might have seen, and it was of
- 6:31Speaker 4: a mayor.
- 6:32Speaker 3: And he is.
- 6:35Speaker 4: Standing in between the students and the police. And he's
- 6:39Speaker 4: shielding the students like he's a guardian of the youth.
- 6:43Speaker 4: And that was the mayor of this political party that's
- 6:47Speaker 4: trying to win in the presidential election. And so they
- 6:53Speaker 4: are using students and youth as a Trojan horse for
- 6:57Speaker 4: their political agenda. And that is what is being replicated
- 7:02Speaker 4: again and again.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Importantly, that's what the data shows.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Of the 101 organizations, 33 are student or youth-led and
- 7:13Speaker 4: 68 are adult-led.
- 7:15Speaker 3: So only one.
- 7:17Speaker 4: Of three organizations, even on the streets today, are youth
- 7:21Speaker 4: and student-led. So it is really the adults with the
- 7:25Speaker 4: very adult imaginations of the rebellion and the overthrow.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Of the government as we know it that are driving this.
- 7:35Speaker 4: And then how do they coordinate? Oh, it's just fascinating.
- 7:40Speaker 4: I mean, it's again, money, money, money. Because Right now,
- 7:44Speaker 4: there is a website, and it is the mobilization for
- 7:49Speaker 4: this Saturday, November 20th. There's going to be another— sorry, not
- 7:54Speaker 4: November 20th, October 24th. I'll just check the date real fast.
- 7:59Speaker 3: But anyway, this Saturday, there's going to be another protest,
- 8:03Speaker 3: and there's a great map. I've linked to it. Yeah,
- 8:05Speaker 3: it's October 24th. It's called Oct2.
- 8:07Speaker 4: Org. So I had to search Google Translate and ACTE
- 8:13Speaker 4: is Action.
- 8:14Speaker 3: 2 in French.
- 8:16Speaker 4: And they have put on this amazing geo-coded map in
- 8:24Speaker 4: which you can put your city and street and find
- 8:27Speaker 4: out the mobilization action in your neighborhood. And so they
- 8:31Speaker 4: have 212 planned mobilizations at my last look. I checked,
- 8:36Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever done WHOIS searches, but
- 8:39Speaker 4: basically you can find out when a website was purchased.
- 8:42Speaker 4: It was an anonymous purchase in September of this website.
- 8:47Speaker 4: And then there's going to be another action November 20th,
- 8:51Speaker 4: and that is being led by the socialist communist groups
- 8:54Speaker 4: throughout Europe. It's going to be a across Europe, and
- 8:58Speaker 4: they purchased their website domain in October. And they coordinate.
- 9:05Speaker 4: I'm in one of the Telegram chats. They don't use
- 9:07Speaker 4: Signal so much over there. They're in Telegram, and I'm
- 9:10Speaker 4: getting notifications about where to meet at this street corner
- 9:13Speaker 4: and that street corner. And so it's like, think about the,
- 9:18Speaker 4: you know, any, and this is what I love about
- 9:20Speaker 4: looking at all of this from a business lens, it's
- 9:22Speaker 4: a logistical operation. You know, they get all their addresses,
- 9:28Speaker 4: their locations, their permits when they need them, you know,
- 9:31Speaker 4: their signs pre-printed.
- 9:33Speaker 3: It's a machine. It's a protest machine.
- 9:36Speaker 4: And, but more now we see with the rioting and
- 9:39Speaker 4: the vandalism, it is a insurgency on many levels. And
- 9:45Speaker 4: that is exactly the intention of these very revolutionary communist organizations.
- 9:53Speaker 2: You know, and France has an upcoming presidential election.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Was that sort of the intention? of the timing of this?
- 10:02Speaker 2: You know, how much do you think the upcoming election
- 10:04Speaker 2: played a role in kicking these off?
- 10:08Speaker 4: Yeah, just because if we just think about the politics
- 10:12Speaker 4: of France, some people would say, oh, my gosh, France
- 10:15Speaker 4: is already a socialist country.
- 10:16Speaker 3: What more did they want?
- 10:17Speaker 4: Right. Macron, he's a liberal president. He's from the liberal
- 10:23Speaker 4: party there. What more do they want? Well, they want
- 10:26Speaker 4: it all. And the protest was exactly timed in order
- 10:31Speaker 4: to build this momentum before the election.
- 10:34Speaker 3: And it's very unlikely that they are going to win,
- 10:37Speaker 3: but it's.
- 10:39Speaker 4: As successful for them to get the conservative Marion Le
- 10:44Speaker 4: Pen in office, because then they will have a demagogue,
- 10:48Speaker 4: just like the left uses in the United States with Trump,
- 10:53Speaker 4: to galvanize and rally their people, make more money, build
- 10:58Speaker 4: the agitation.
- 10:59Speaker 3: And because their goal is chaos.
- 11:02Speaker 4: And I think people cannot underestimate how important it is
- 11:07Speaker 4: for them to create this These images and all of
- 11:12Speaker 4: the footage of fire, fire, fire, the West in flames.
- 11:18Speaker 4: The other really important element of this is that obviously they're,
- 11:23Speaker 4: you know, communist and socialist.
- 11:25Speaker 3: So what are those governments right now?
- 11:26Speaker 4: It's Russia and China that are the closest that we have.
- 11:31Speaker 4: to powerhouses of that level. And they are further than
- 11:38Speaker 4: this concept that is called maligned foreign influence in the West.
- 11:43Speaker 4: Creating the image of chaos and instability and even forcing
- 11:49Speaker 4: instability is a win for foreign adversaries.
- 11:53Speaker 2: You know, and we talk about the Red-Green Alliance, Is
- 11:57Speaker 2: that sort of the ideological bent of these groups, these
- 12:00Speaker 2: 101 groups, or what is sort of the ideology that's present.
- 12:07Speaker 2: I know we've seen a lot of Palestinian flags thrown around.
- 12:10Speaker 2: You know, what do we know about the ideological leanings
- 12:14Speaker 2: of the groups driving this?
- 12:16Speaker 4: Yeah, we, so this is like my dream right now,
- 12:20Speaker 4: because I literally wrote a book, right, on the Red-Green
- 12:23Speaker 4: Alliance called Woke Army. And I have on one corner,
- 12:27Speaker 4: the hammer and sickle on one corner of the podcast,
- 12:31Speaker 4: cover is the hammer and sickle and on the other
- 12:34Speaker 4: corner is the Islamic crescent and star. And so for
- 12:39Speaker 4: anyone who doesn't know, the red represents the communists and
- 12:43Speaker 4: the leftists and the green represents the color of Islam.
- 12:47Speaker 4: And so ironically, those two colors together also are in
- 12:51Speaker 4: the flag of the Palestine cause. And That is why
- 12:56Speaker 4: we see the Palestine flag go up in these monuments.
- 13:01Speaker 4: We don't see the flag of France go up for
- 13:04Speaker 4: their vision for their nation. They put up the Palestinian
- 13:08Speaker 4: flag because what we now are seeing on the streets
- 13:12Speaker 4: for several years now is the convergence of the red
- 13:16Speaker 4: and the green in an effort to destabilize the West.
- 13:21Speaker 3: They have several goals.
- 13:22Speaker 4: One is the destruction of the state of Israel for
- 13:25Speaker 4: the green part of their alliance. And then the second
- 13:28Speaker 4: is the destruction of the West for the red part
- 13:31Speaker 4: of the alliance and the green part of the alliance.
- 13:34Speaker 4: And so together they are united in their enemy.
- 13:37Speaker 2: And the irony of all this is obviously we are
- 13:43Speaker 2: at war right now with Iran and And the entire
- 13:47Speaker 2: reason Iran went into chaos is because of the red-green
- 13:51Speaker 2: alliance that overthrew the Shah many, many decades ago.
- 13:55Speaker 4: Yes.
- 13:56Speaker 2: So how relevant is that to what we're seeing play
- 14:00Speaker 2: out today and also what could possibly play out or
- 14:03Speaker 2: is playing out here in the United States?
- 14:05Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the greatest irony of what is happening
- 14:10Speaker 4: today is that There's a couple elements that are so ironic.
- 14:14Speaker 4: Ayatollah Khomeini actually led his revolution to overthrow the Shah
- 14:21Speaker 4: of Iran from France. He distributed cassettes in those days
- 14:28Speaker 4: of his sermons and his propaganda to rally Iranians to
- 14:34Speaker 4: overthrow the Shah. And just like you said, he... worked
- 14:40Speaker 4: together with the socialists and even, sadly, the feminists in
- 14:46Speaker 4: Iran to foment the revolution that brought him to power
- 14:51Speaker 4: in 1979. And one of the tragic first acts that
- 14:56Speaker 4: he did was to imprison and kill the socialists and
- 15:01Speaker 4: the feminists.
- 15:02Speaker 3: And the rest is history.
- 15:04Speaker 4: We've now had almost five decades of the tyranny of
- 15:08Speaker 4: the Islamists over the Iranian people.
- 15:11Speaker 3: The man named, a man by the name.
- 15:14Speaker 4: Of Ali Shariati was one of the socialist intellectuals that
- 15:17Speaker 4: aligned with Ayatollah Khomeini and he's dead.
- 15:21Speaker 3: You know, he was quickly killed.
- 15:23Speaker 4: The feminists that thought that they were going to be
- 15:27Speaker 4: free from, quote, the tyranny of the monarchy ended up
- 15:31Speaker 4: in a new theocratic tyranny. And so the reason why
- 15:37Speaker 4: I do this work is because that has been the
- 15:41Speaker 4: dynamic I have observed through my lifetime. And I, as
- 15:46Speaker 4: a Muslim, have known more freedoms in the West than
- 15:49Speaker 4: I could ever know in the Islamic Republic of Iran
- 15:52Speaker 4: or really any Muslim country.
- 15:54Speaker 3: The idea that.
- 15:56Speaker 4: There can be even liberal values practiced with this kind
- 16:02Speaker 4: of vision between communism and Islamism is a joke. And
- 16:06Speaker 4: it's complete delusion on the part of anyone who thinks
- 16:10Speaker 4: that it will end well for society.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 16:14Speaker 4: You know, people are worried about affordability and various issues
- 16:19Speaker 4: of economics that must be resolved by rational thinkers. But
- 16:24Speaker 4: what has happened, Lisa, just like you said, is a
- 16:26Speaker 4: repeat of history.
- 16:28Speaker 3: And our.
- 16:30Speaker 4: World really could see more nations coming. fall to that
- 16:35Speaker 4: kind of new tyranny if people are not aware. And
- 16:39Speaker 4: that's why at Fox News Digital, we've named the names
- 16:42Speaker 4: so that you can see the receipts yourself. You can
- 16:45Speaker 4: see the names. You can be convinced. You can go
- 16:47Speaker 4: look at the mission statements, look at their hammer and
- 16:49Speaker 4: sickle flags, look at their crescent and star logos and
- 16:57Speaker 4: the Palestinian flag as they're rallying cry. And you can
- 17:02Speaker 4: see the evidence yourself that this is a very strategic
- 17:06Speaker 4: network that has very clear political goals that are about
- 17:11Speaker 4: undermining really liberal democracies as in the most traditional term
- 17:18Speaker 4: that we know with individual freedom and even freedom of
- 17:22Speaker 4: religion and freedom of speech, you know, simple ideas that
- 17:26Speaker 4: most people would agree we need to preserve.
- 17:29Speaker 2: You know, and if you look at in Iran, after
- 17:33Speaker 2: the Shah was overthrown, a lot of the communists were
- 17:36Speaker 2: killed or jailed, just for people to.
- 17:39Speaker 3: Know how a lot of this ends. You know, I
- 17:42Speaker 3: wanted to ask you, you had mentioned that you're Muslim.
- 17:44Speaker 2: You know, when you look at Islamists and you look
- 17:47Speaker 2: at these terrorist regimes, part of the reason people are
- 17:51Speaker 2: that way is because that's all they've known. And that's
- 17:54Speaker 2: what they've been taught from... you know, birth and beyond.
- 17:58Speaker 2: And we see here in the United States a lot
- 18:00Speaker 2: of indoctrinating that's happening in our schools and with our youth.
- 18:05Speaker 2: How hard is it to break that indoctrination? Well, it
- 18:10Speaker 2: is always possible.
- 18:12Speaker 4: You know, indoctrination is that battle for the hearts and
- 18:18Speaker 4: minds of people. And nations and civilizations have waged many
- 18:25Speaker 4: battles like this. That is how we have democracy today.
- 18:30Speaker 4: That is how we have simple freedoms that we know today,
- 18:36Speaker 4: like the right of a woman.
- 18:38Speaker 3: To vote, you know, the right.
- 18:40Speaker 4: Of people to have equal access to buildings, the right
- 18:45Speaker 4: of people to all be, anybody can be elected to
- 18:48Speaker 4: political office, you know, irrespective of their identity, you know,
- 18:53Speaker 4: for the most part.
- 18:54Speaker 3: And, you know.
- 18:56Speaker 4: And I can't be president of the United States, so
- 18:59Speaker 4: I know you're very disappointed to hear.
- 19:00Speaker 3: I wouldn't want the job to be. Exactly.
- 19:07Speaker 2: I can barely handle this stress in my own life.
- 19:09Speaker 2: I don't know how Trump's doing it. I know. Good
- 19:12Speaker 2: thing they ruled that one out for me. Nor would
- 19:15Speaker 2: they pick me, but besides the point, I don't want
- 19:19Speaker 2: that stress.
- 19:20Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good that we get eliminated on some point
- 19:23Speaker 3: or the other.
- 19:23Speaker 4: You know, these freedoms that we know are the result
- 19:28Speaker 4: of these ideological battles and anything can be accomplished. I
- 19:34Speaker 4: have seen in my lifetime that Saudi Arabia, for example,
- 19:38Speaker 4: transformed the way that they have practiced Islam. Remember, there
- 19:45Speaker 4: was a time when a woman wasn't allowed to drive there.
- 19:48Speaker 4: They wouldn't have those comedy shows. Like it is not
- 19:51Speaker 4: the full freedoms that I would hope for, for somebody
- 19:56Speaker 4: in that country, but it is.
- 19:58Speaker 3: A new reality.
- 20:01Speaker 4: And so in Islam also, we are in a battle
- 20:05Speaker 4: of interpretation and ideology. And there are many people who
- 20:08Speaker 4: will say Islam is Islam is Islam. But you know,
- 20:12Speaker 4: every religion has had these battles of ideology and interpretation.
- 20:17Speaker 4: And that's what really drives me, Lisa, in trying to
- 20:20Speaker 4: understand the ideology of these organizations. Because they are waging
- 20:25Speaker 4: a battle for the hearts and minds of our youth, especially.
- 20:29Speaker 4: And the real challenge, of course, for all people is
- 20:33Speaker 4: to have better ideas, right?
- 20:35Speaker 3: And to create better futures.
- 20:37Speaker 4: And so important issues like, you know, being able to
- 20:42Speaker 4: buy a home or being able to get a job,
- 20:45Speaker 4: like those are issues that rational people must resolve so that,
- 20:51Speaker 4: the fanatics don't win in society. And my efforts over
- 20:57Speaker 4: these last decades has been to challenge those fanatical extreme
- 21:02Speaker 4: misinterpretations of Islam. And I do believe that it is
- 21:06Speaker 4: possible because people are practicing in a way that the
- 21:11Speaker 4: ideologues and the mullahs don't preach from the pulpit.
- 21:15Speaker 3: But unfortunately, it's not the normative. And that's what I
- 21:18Speaker 3: hope one day will happen.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Before we go, you know, I know the Trump administration's
- 21:24Speaker 2: been looking into some of these shadowy networks and individuals
- 21:28Speaker 2: like Navelle Roy-Singham, which I know you've reported a great
- 21:32Speaker 2: deal about. Do we have any update into how some
- 21:35Speaker 2: of these investigations are going?
- 21:38Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really great point that you're making.
- 21:40Speaker 4: You know, Marco Rubio went to Europe and he talked
- 21:43Speaker 4: about the far left network as a challenge for the world.
- 21:48Speaker 3: And that was.
- 21:48Speaker 4: Really important foreign policy position that he took. In the
- 21:53Speaker 4: United States, the Treasury Department has had sanctions against organizations
- 21:59Speaker 4: involved in these networks. The Justice Department is investigating this
- 22:04Speaker 4: man named Neville Roy Singham, who lives in Shanghai as
- 22:08Speaker 4: an American, supporting the Chinese Communist Party and bankrolling a
- 22:13Speaker 4: network of nonprofits that are today supporting the mayhem in France.
- 22:20Speaker 4: The Justice Department investigation has led to a grand jury
- 22:26Speaker 4: probe in the Southern District of New York, and I'm
- 22:30Speaker 4: waiting any day for news out of there. The House
- 22:33Speaker 4: Ways and Means Committee and Representative Jason Smith have attempted,
- 22:39Speaker 4: they've held hearings about people violating this law that requires
- 22:44Speaker 4: you to register as a foreign agent if you are
- 22:47Speaker 4: participating in these alleged malign foreign influence work. And so
- 22:53Speaker 4: we've got a lot happening now with the, I think
- 22:57Speaker 4: we need to understand that with the midterm election results,
- 23:02Speaker 4: if the If Congress changes, they won't have the power
- 23:05Speaker 4: to do many of those investigations. And we will see
- 23:09Speaker 4: then what Justice and Treasury is focused on doing over
- 23:12Speaker 4: the next two years.
- 23:14Speaker 3: But there's a lot of work happening.
- 23:16Speaker 4: And the biggest overall arching way that I could approach
- 23:20Speaker 4: having people understand what is the strategy is if you
- 23:24Speaker 4: think back to Al Capone, the man who had a
- 23:28Speaker 4: lot of very serious crimes, including possibly murder, The strategy
- 23:34Speaker 4: that the Treasury Department did at the time with this
- 23:37Speaker 4: prosecutor named Elliot Ness was to go after tax evasion.
- 23:41Speaker 4: And so sometimes that low-hanging fruit and that strategy that
- 23:45Speaker 4: I call the Al Capone strategy is the most effective in....
- 23:52Speaker 3: You know, defanging these kind of efforts.
- 23:55Speaker 4: And so that is largely part of the strategy against
- 24:00Speaker 4: these nonprofits because they are getting tax benefits as they
- 24:04Speaker 4: do these shenanigans.
- 24:05Speaker 2: That's right. We appreciate you staying on top of all
- 24:08Speaker 2: this stuff. I know it's a lot of research, a
- 24:10Speaker 2: lot of due diligence that you're doing. So we appreciate
- 24:14Speaker 2: you breaking it all down for us and doing the work.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 24:18Speaker 4: And I want to encourage everyone to go to foxnews.com,
- 24:22Speaker 4: download the app because that's where you get the little
- 24:24Speaker 4: alert that tells you that we've got some breaking news
- 24:28Speaker 4: that's going to help you understand the world better.
- 24:30Speaker 3: Awesome. And there is a lot to understand.
- 24:34Speaker 2: I guess we should say try to understand since it's crazy.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
- 24:40Speaker 3: I truly appreciate it.
- 24:41Speaker 4: Thank you, Lisa.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
- 24:43Speaker 4: All right.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Take care. Bye-bye. That was Asra Nomani. Appreciate her for
- 24:47Speaker 3: taking the time to come on the show.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys at home for listening. Every Tuesday and Thursday,
- 24:51Speaker 2: you can listen throughout the week. Also want to thank
- 24:54Speaker 2: John Cascio, my producer, for putting the show together.
- 24:56Speaker 3: Until next time.