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Choppin' it up with Coach Krispy Kreme | How Hattie Kanyo Punch her Ticket to the CrossFit Games? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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and what is going on
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everybody welcome to
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chopping it up with coach
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crispy cream special
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edition as he just finished
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the north no not north the
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west north america west
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semifinals where athlete
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hattie can you who nobody
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nobody knew about nobody knew nobody knew
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Qualified for the CrossFit Games.
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If only a media outlet would
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have interviewed her or her
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coach in the last year so
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that we could have known.
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Could have known she was out there.
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Yeah, but nobody knew.
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Nobody knew how to pronounce her name.
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Oh, dude.
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Nobody knew who she was.
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Nobody knew that she was a
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firefighter at one time.
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Nobody knew any of that stuff.
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Yeah.
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If only.
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It's crazy.
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If only.
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Um, so with that,
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you also had a couple other
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athletes there, a couple of teams.
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Yeah.
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So let's,
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let's break down what happened at
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North America semifinals and,
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and we'll get into the full like glory.
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That is what happened with
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Hattie over the weekend and
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how she kicked ass, uh,
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in everything she did.
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Um, Corey, Corey said,
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I feel like I knew
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everybody who listens to
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this show should have at
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least known she existed.
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Right.
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And I know is in the chat too.
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Kenneth was here for the
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Bali shows like every week.
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So Kenneth, Kenneth knows, um,
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some of us knew some of us did know.
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Um, so let's start with team.
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You had a couple of teams in the mix.
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Yeah,
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so I didn't have any teams in the
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West that I fully coached.
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One of our Ascend coaches
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owns an affiliate here in Houston,
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the other side of Houston from me,
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CrossFit Man Made.
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They had two teams.
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and I individually coach one
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of the men on one of the teams,
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Man Made Red.
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So I was there just
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generally assisting them
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and then also helping him
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as much as I could through
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the team events.
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And then Madison McElhaney
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and Taylor Patterson,
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I coached both of them,
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and they were on CrossFit, COTA,
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Iron View.
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So that was the team side of the house.
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So...
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like I said not a full team
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that I had coached
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throughout the season or
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anything like that but I
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had worked with them you
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know all through
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quarterfinals and stuff
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like that was just trying
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to be as helpful as I could
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so so how did how did that
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go down was it less
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pressure filled because you
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you weren't the only coach
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of that team-ish or was it
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just as pressure filled
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Yeah,
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it was a little less pressure filled.
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Um, the two man-made teams, their,
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their goal for the season
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was to make semifinals.
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So them, you know,
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we weren't going in with
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games aspirations or anything like that.
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So that was a little bit
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less stress in that sense,
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like just wanting them to
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perform as best as they could.
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And then Madison's team,
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they did have games aspirations.
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Um,
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And so that was just different.
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Like I,
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I didn't know the boys strengths
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and weaknesses intimately.
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Um, you know, they're super fit dudes,
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but I, rather than when I have a team,
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I coach fully.
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I try to kind of help call the plays with,
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you know,
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maybe the person who fills that
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team captain role.
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And there's always discussion,
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but I try to really help
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them fully strategize.
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Whereas for this,
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it was a little more conversation,
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seeing if they needed anything,
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helping where I could,
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little technical things,
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and then just really making sure,
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you know,
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Taylor and Madison were squared away.
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So I would say a little less
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pressure than if I had coached, you know,
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a full team with
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of four um but I still
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wanted them to do as best
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they could and you've been
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coaching madison for over a
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year now yes they they just
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missed 12th place yep um so
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they were a little bit out
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but um I had a little bobble on
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we just,
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we fell behind in that overhead
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squad event kind of early.
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Um,
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just couldn't make up the ground on the
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burpee workout, the point deficit.
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So the running workout hurt
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him a little bit.
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Madison and Taylor are,
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neither of them would claim
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to be track stars.
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Um, Madison has made, and, and she would,
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I think agree with this.
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Her endurance has made leaps
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and bounds in the last year.
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Um,
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Much to her disdain because
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I don't let her touch a
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barbell very often and I
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make her run and do a lot of burpees.
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But we've done what we needed to do.
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She complexed 215 still
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leading up to semifinals
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prep before we knew the workouts.
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She snatched 215.
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easily so a lot of her
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strength is still there we
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just really she was one of
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those athletes where we
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really have to push a lot
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of aerobic work to get
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improvement because she
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just doesn't gravitate
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toward it we don't have to
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dive deep into this because
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I really want to get to
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jacob and hattie um but
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madison was an mma fighter
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What is the difference
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between endurance for that,
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five-minute rounds, rest in between,
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to CrossFit endurance,
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like a 20-minute chipper?
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Yeah, I would say if you watch MMA fights,
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a lot of MMA fighters...
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have a different tempo to them.
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You know,
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you have MMA fighters who do like
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to push the pace.
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Maybe they come from a
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wrestling background.
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They're always moving, trying to grapple,
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constantly striking,
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lots of things like that.
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And then you have MMA fighters who,
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They kind of sit and wait
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and wait and wait, and then they go,
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and then they kind of sit and wait again.
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And I think – I haven't went
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back and watched a lot of
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Madison's fights or anything,
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but she's very much a
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high-force production,
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power output kind of organism by default.
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And if I had to guess,
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her style of MMA fighting
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was probably a little more
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calculated than she would go.
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and then she would rest,
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and then she would go.
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So she's still in a
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five-minute time window,
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but her bouts of effort are explosive,
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come down, explosive, come down,
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explosive, come down, versus a steady,
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sustained push to tempo.
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I think, and this is all by memory,
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so I could be wrong,
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but I believe her fighting
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career was undefeated until
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her last fight,
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pretty much all by knockout
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knockout or submission
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sounds about right that's
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what that's what I would
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kind of figure yeah um and
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fought her whole last fight
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with like a broken foot yes
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and still made it like went
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the distance yes like so
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she's complete badass she
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is tough as nails dude
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So, and she's doesn't have a big package,
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right?
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Like you look at her and
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you're not going to instantly go, Hey,
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that's, that's power output.
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Yeah, no, I mean, she's got strong,
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big legs and she's tall.
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Um, it's just a nervous system thing.
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She's just fast Twitch.
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Man,
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she's impressive just as an athlete
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overall.
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Yeah.
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So last question,
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because you've been working
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with her so long, um,
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is now the goal to go back
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to individual or to find a
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better team or make this
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team better any clue yet or
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do you need some time we
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discussed it a little bit
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she did voice to me she
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really enjoys team um so I
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think that is probably the
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direction we want to stay
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but in terms of different
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teams same team I haven't really
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dove into that or anything
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like that with her.
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When my athletes finish semifinals,
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you know,
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if they're not moving on to the games,
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I basically try to kick
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them out of the gym as much
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as I can and just let them relax.
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I don't want them consumed
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with CrossFit right now.
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Cause I know that's been
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everything on their mind
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for the last two months.
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Okay.
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So, so let's flip to the individual side.
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Do we want to, where do we want to start?
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We can go event by event or
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we can start with Jacob, I guess.
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Whatever you think flows better.
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Let's go event by event.
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All right.
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So it's Friday.
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We have the run, clean and jerk workout.
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Yep.
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You have Jacob on the men, Jacob Marlowe,
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and you have Hattie Cano on
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the women's side.
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Completely different athletes.
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Yeah.
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Like, and so as a coach,
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is that exciting for you
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that you get to like use
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all your toys and all your
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tools or is it harder
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because they are different?
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I don't know.
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I don't know that I've ever
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really thought of it like that.
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I try to help them maximize
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each event based on their
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strengths given the test
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that's being given.
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I mean anybody who looked at
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the leaderboard or watched
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Jacob do that event,
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that's obviously not his
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jam right now versus Hattie.
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She did very, very well in that workout.
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So
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It's just different and it's
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fun to watch them do
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different events that lend
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more toward maybe their
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strengths or weaknesses.
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I've never really thought
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about it from the sense of
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what I can give them since
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the test is the same and
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then I'm just trying to
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maximize their ability to
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complete the test given
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their kind of stats.
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Okay.
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So...
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I think the men were up first.
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They're going to be in our world.
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That's fine.
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So Jacob goes into this.
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It's damage control because
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you know this is not his jam.
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Yeah.
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What's your advice to Jacob?
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So he did that workout in
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testing here in Houston.
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Barely finished it.
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Walked here in Houston when he did it.
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So we went into that workout with...
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The only thing I told him
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was make yourself proud.
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Like, I don't care.
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I knew the field was gonna
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do what it was gonna do.
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We can't change how fast and
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how long you can run that fast right now.
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So I told him, you know,
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pull yourself up the stairs
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to save your legs.
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I told him the pace I wanted
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him to aim to hold on the
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runs based on what we did in testing.
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And then a little bit of
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variance for the accounting,
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the stairs and the fatigue.
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And I just told him to go
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out there and make himself proud.
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That was it.
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And at the end of that,
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did he make himself proud?
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Yeah, he finished the event.
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He didn't get last.
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He didn't walk.
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So he stayed tough through
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the whole thing.
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He stayed tough on that last
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round when he had to run, I know,
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harder than he wanted to to
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get back to the bar and
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finish the workout.
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So I was proud of him.
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I was proud of him for that workout.
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And that workout kind of
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highlights something that
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we can talk about about
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Jacob kind of toward the
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end of the conversation and
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like his future maybe.
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So then Hattie's up.
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Hattie's in the big girl
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heat because she came in
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qualified sixth or seventh?
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Sixth, yeah, after the penalties.
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Yeah, so she was way up there with,
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and yet still nobody knew who she was.
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She goes into the event and
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it's actually probably,
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it's a good event for her, right?
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It's a great event for her.
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So what is the conversation
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between you and her?
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I told her,
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so she had a pace for the run
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that we were going to aim
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to hold based off what we
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had done in testing.
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And we knew the plan was
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very quick singles on the clean and jerk.
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And I told her before the event, I said,
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run the first one at your pace.
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or around your pace.
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And then, you know,
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because there was a lot of question,
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how am I going to feel after the stairs?
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I had made her run.
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There were some hills and
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stairs behind her house in Canada.
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They call them the coolies.
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I don't know why they call them that.
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I don't know what that means.
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But I had made her run those
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when they announced they
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were going to Carson
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because I had a feeling
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they were going to run the
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berm to get her prepared for that.
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So I said, hey, go run.
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Run the first one around the pace.
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then you're gonna know
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everything you need to know
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about how to approach the
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run after that first run
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you're gonna know you're
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gonna get informed on
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everything you need to know
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and then you just need to
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run your race like don't
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worry about what anybody
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else is doing it's five
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round workout run your race
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and you know be tough at
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the end so that was the
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advice I gave her for that one and they
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all came out way hotter than
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the pace but she's a good
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enough runner that she
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could hold on to that pace
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nice and she's she's good
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at moving a moderate
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barbell too right she's
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great at it yeah she's
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great at moving a water
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barbell uh kenneth yes
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hattie is canadian you know
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the show we are uh canadian
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bias um by nature
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I'm surprised you had to ask.
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Get us together, Kenneth.
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So where'd she finish in that first event?
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I should pull that up.
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Third.
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Third.
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So off to a bang and start.
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Great start.
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And you're done for the day.
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Yeah.
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And that was huge, really, I think,
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for the weekend and also
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for me as a coach.
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Yeah.
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especially for Hattie.
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I mean,
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obviously Jacob didn't have a great start,
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but the goal wasn't,
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we knew Jacob wasn't going
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to be qualifying for the games this year.
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Like that wasn't the goal we
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went into semifinals with,
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but last year at semifinals with Madison,
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Hattie, Kelly, in particular,
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we had a really, really slow day one.
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We were,
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we did not get off the blocks fast
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at all.
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And so as a coach,
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something that was on my
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mind a lot was I wanted
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Hattie to come in on that
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first event and have a good
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start to the weekend.
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And then you get to ride
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that into the next day.
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There's no second event that
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day that maybe doesn't go
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well or anything like that.
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You have a good finish to
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that first event and you
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get to carry that into the next day.
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So I was stoked for that.
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So how do you treat the rest of the day?
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Is it...
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Is it just recovery?
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Is it get some fuel?
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Do you have a scheduled plan
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for the rest of the day now?
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So they finished that event.
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I want to say it was kind of
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getting into the evening a little bit.
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And then, yeah,
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I had them leave the venue
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as soon as I could get them
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to stop talking to people.
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And they got body work done.
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by the body work people that were there.
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And then I basically ushered
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them to their vehicles and
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had them all go home and relax.
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And then I stayed at the
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venue because the teams had
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a brief that night, maybe,
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or was that Saturday?
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One more event and a brief probably.
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Well, yeah, the teams had events.
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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Cause the team event was after that.
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And then I think they had a
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brief even after that,
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the days all kind of blurred together,
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to be honest.
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So what's crazy, Jody,
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is it's really Canada to
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Bali to Canada to Houston
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to Canada to Bali to Canada to Carson.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She's been all over this world.
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She has.
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Oh, yeah.
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And she stopped in Egypt to
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win a comp this year, too.
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But nobody still knew about her.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So then you get up the next day,
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you come in for event to
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event to is front squat,
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double under total bar.
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There we go.
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And again, two different athletes.
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Yeah.
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How does Jacob attack this?
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So for Jacob,
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that event was break the
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double unders to stay calm
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and keep your heart rate down.
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Two sets on the total bar.
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um and then front squat
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faster than anybody else in
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the field because jacob's
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done 405 for a triple on
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front squat jacob's
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squatting power is stupid
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So that was his general game plan.
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He went a little slower than
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he did in testing.
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He actually did that workout
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twice in 24 hours in testing.
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That's kind of a funny story.
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He did it the first time and
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he pretty much bonked the
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attempt and did not do very well.
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And then the next day he
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came to the gym and said he
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wanted to do it again.
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So we set it up like he
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would do it on the floor
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and we did it again and he did it again.
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In the low 13s, I want to say.
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So yeah,
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he did 100 front squats at 225 in
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24 hours.
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So yeah,
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he did a little bit worse than
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what he did in testing the second time,
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but he tripped on his dubs
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a little bit more.
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So for him,
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that event was about breaking
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up the double-unders in the
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total bar to keep his heart
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rate low and then trying to
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make money on the front
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squats because he can move
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the bar so well.
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Most of the field moved the
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bar pretty well, I would say.
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Obviously,
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the best guys crushed the barbell as well,
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but that was just how we
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needed to approach it for
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him because if he would
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have went in trying to go –
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unbroken double-unders,
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big sets on the total bar,
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he would have ended up
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waiting a really long time
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to pick up the bar because
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his heart rate would have been so high.
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Yeah.
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And he finished where on that one?
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What did he finish on that one?
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I don't remember.
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I knew until you asked me.
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Let me pull up the leaderboard here.
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I got it here.
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Just have to find him.
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Men...
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25th, 14.06.
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Yep.
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There it is.
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Okay.
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And then Hattie comes up.
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So how did she approach it?
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I love that we're going to
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talk about this because it
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was so different than everybody else.
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So Hattie's strategy was
19:59
unbroken double-unders,
20:00
8.75 on the total bar with
20:03
a super short rest.
20:05
And then I told her,
20:07
we're going to do the first
20:08
round of 10 unbroken.
20:09
And then after that, you make the call.
20:13
If you want to go 6-4, you go 6-4.
20:15
If you want to do 10, you do all 10.
20:16
The only rule of this game
20:17
is there's no standing around.
20:19
And she went 10, 10, 6-4, 6-4, 10.
20:20
And she went 8-7-5 on every
20:22
set of total bar.
20:24
Maybe she went...
20:31
Yeah,
20:31
I think she still went 875 on the
20:33
fifth round.
20:34
She tripped twice on the
20:38
last round in the 100 double-unders.
20:41
and if you listen to the
20:42
podcast world if you listen
20:44
to the media everybody said
20:46
you had to go unbroken on
20:47
the front squats to do well
20:49
and she got seventh place
20:50
on that workout and if she
20:51
didn't trip twice on the
20:52
double unders because when
20:53
we did testing rounds she
20:55
did the double unders
20:55
unbroken every time if she
20:57
didn't trip twice on the
20:57
dumbbells she would or on
20:58
the double unders she
21:00
wouldn't have been in that
21:01
race at the end which was
21:02
also super cool but uh and
21:04
she would have gotten third
21:06
or fourth in that workout
21:07
breaking the front squats twice
21:10
Was that the dive or the slide?
21:13
The dive.
21:15
She got seventh and lost to
21:19
fourth by like eight-tenths of a second.
21:23
They all jumped over the
21:24
finish line at the same time.
21:27
Yeah, that was crazy.
21:29
It was awesome.
21:32
Okay,
21:33
so then you have event two on Saturday.
21:37
Yep.
21:39
there we had that's the rope
21:41
climb echo bike yeah I've
21:43
been three box box jump
21:45
overs yes um again I'm
21:50
assuming two different
21:51
strategies two different
21:53
strategies um well yes I
21:57
would say they varied by
21:58
degree not necessarily kind
22:00
for jacob it was we need to
22:02
be tough on the bike and
22:03
aim to hold that pace and then
22:07
try to recover on the box jump overs.
22:09
He's not the tallest guy ever.
22:11
And actually, when he has to step down,
22:13
it tends to blow up his legs a bunch,
22:14
especially on that big box they use.
22:19
And that one didn't go, I would say,
22:21
as well as he would have liked, probably.
22:24
But...
22:26
he beat his training time by
22:29
two and a half minutes or
22:30
something stupid.
22:32
Wow.
22:32
So, you know, can't complain about that.
22:35
Um, but that one, yeah,
22:37
was 39th at a 1208 and just
22:43
the fitness isn't there yet on that one.
22:46
The legless were nothing.
22:48
It was just the fitness on the bike.
22:50
So then Hattie attacks it.
22:53
Um,
22:57
she's a smaller athlete I'm
22:59
assuming the bike is not
23:01
hammered for her it's not
23:04
hammered in the same way
23:06
but I gave her a tough
23:08
target pace and if you
23:09
actually I don't know if
23:10
you can tell on the live
23:11
stream if you watch she was
23:12
getting off the bike at the
23:13
same time or sooner than
23:14
abigail domit every time
23:16
who's a much taller athlete
23:18
and very powerful um had
23:20
he's good on the bike
23:23
and for her though her
23:25
legless rope climbs are
23:26
very strong and I don't
23:29
know if this is public
23:29
knowledge at this point it
23:30
should be because I think
23:31
all the athletes know about
23:32
this that rope is not 15
23:33
feet the the rope they use
23:36
at regionals is not 15 feet
23:39
the rig's not that tall
23:40
it's probably to the cross
23:41
beam 14 feet um so knowing that
23:48
our theme on that basically
23:49
was we're going to win on
23:50
the rope and the box jump
23:52
overs because people are,
23:53
there is going to be a
23:54
decent amount of athletes
23:55
who take a pause before
23:56
they get on that rope and
23:58
we're running our transitions and we're,
24:00
we're fearless up the rope every time.
24:02
And that's exactly what she did.
24:05
So she finishes fourth on that event.
24:08
Yup.
24:09
And at this point she is now
24:11
the leader in the clubhouse
24:13
going into the final day.
24:15
Yes.
24:18
So that's got to have all kinds of fields,
24:21
right?
24:25
Yeah, to a point.
24:29
The theme Hattie and I had
24:31
going into this weekend was
24:33
we're going to focus on ourselves.
24:35
we are going to do our game plan.
24:38
We are going to execute what
24:39
we know we need to execute.
24:40
We're going to run the race
24:41
our way and we're not going
24:43
to worry about what other
24:44
people are doing.
24:45
And we're just going to keep
24:46
our head down and focus on
24:47
things one event at a time.
24:50
As she was the leader in the clubhouse,
24:53
it was hard not for that to
24:55
be made aware to her, but she had,
24:57
she had no intention of
24:58
looking at the leaderboard all weekend.
25:01
She would finish an event and,
25:03
And she finished the second
25:04
event and asked me,
25:07
is that good enough for
25:09
what we're trying to do?
25:10
And I said, yeah, you're fine.
25:11
Don't worry about it.
25:12
Because I knew she got top 10.
25:16
But yeah,
25:19
our whole kind of mindset and our
25:23
conversations was we're
25:25
running Hattie's race.
25:26
We're not worried about how
25:27
other people are going to
25:28
do this because they're not you.
25:30
So was that, that was the slide, right?
25:33
That was the slide.
25:34
Yeah.
25:34
And that got her a couple places.
25:37
Yeah.
25:38
One, if not two.
25:40
Yeah.
25:40
I think it might've been two.
25:41
It's hard to know,
25:42
but it definitely got her one.
25:45
When you see an athlete of yours,
25:49
give it up for points.
25:52
Like
25:54
does does that get you more
25:57
excited or the where she
25:59
finished get you more
26:00
excited oh give it up for
26:03
points 100 so when you're
26:06
trying to make the crossfit
26:07
games as a coach I want to
26:11
see I want to see that edge
26:15
a little bit and she showed
26:17
it the first event
26:20
So in the last round, not to jump around,
26:23
but in the last round,
26:24
this is when I knew we were
26:26
going this weekend.
26:28
The last round of the workout,
26:31
she finishes the fourth
26:32
round of clean and jerks.
26:34
And her and another lady,
26:35
I want to say Lindsay something.
26:37
I don't know her last name.
26:39
Lindsay was kind of catching
26:40
her on the run.
26:41
But Hattie was getting off
26:42
the clean and jerks first.
26:45
And they,
26:46
she was running out of the tunnel
26:47
and I ran from the soccer
26:49
stadium over to the top of
26:51
the tunnel because we were
26:52
allowed to go to the soccer stadium,
26:53
like the edge of it and watch them.
26:56
And I yelled at her to hold
27:00
her pace and then to pass
27:03
on the second straightaway before you,
27:06
as you come,
27:07
like the long side of the soccer field.
27:10
And that's exactly what she did.
27:14
She ran her pace and her and
27:16
the other girl were right
27:17
next to each other.
27:18
They came down the stairs
27:19
and Hattie got like a 20
27:21
step lead on that
27:23
straightaway so that she
27:24
had enough time to make
27:26
sure she got the barbell work done,
27:27
which in hindsight worked out really,
27:29
really well because
27:30
apparently Abigail Domet
27:33
sprinted through the tunnel
27:35
because she was behind both
27:36
of them on that
27:37
straightaway and then was
27:38
right with Hattie on the cleaning jerks.
27:40
But
27:42
The fact that when I told her to do that,
27:45
being 20 plus minutes into
27:46
that workout and she did it,
27:49
I knew she was ready to lay
27:53
it out there all weekend.
27:58
And I love that.
27:59
When I saw that,
28:00
when you see someone die for points,
28:02
it just makes you want to
28:05
root for them even more.
28:07
And I was already rooting for her.
28:12
So, so you get to the end of day two,
28:15
she's, you know, if there was one,
28:18
she would be wearing the
28:19
leader's Jersey and you
28:22
still have half the event to go.
28:25
Yeah.
28:26
Weird feeling one day, but half the event,
28:30
right.
28:31
It was different.
28:33
Uh,
28:33
Jody Lynn says the edge definitely need
28:36
to kick in high gear with
28:38
this strong bunch of gals.
28:40
Definitely.
28:44
So it was not Hattie's
28:48
desire to look at the leaderboard,
28:50
but you as a coach are
28:51
looking at the leaderboard.
28:53
Oh, yeah.
28:54
You know she's in the pole position.
28:56
Yeah.
28:58
Does it change?
29:00
How do you make sure it
29:01
doesn't change your game plan?
29:04
Well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
29:06
I mean...
29:09
we went into the weekend
29:10
with the mindset of we're
29:11
going to do our game plan
29:12
and our strategy and
29:13
execute the way we know we
29:14
should do these workouts.
29:17
Don't get to halftime if
29:18
it's working and change it.
29:20
Right.
29:21
Well,
29:21
apparently you're not a Chicago bear
29:22
fan because we would get a big lead.
29:25
And then at halftime they
29:27
would go to a conservative
29:29
mode and then lose the game.
29:31
Gotcha.
29:31
Yeah.
29:31
We were not trying to do that.
29:33
So that's,
29:34
that's just what I'm used to
29:35
watching every Sunday in the fall.
29:37
Yeah.
29:38
So that's why I had to ask.
29:40
Fair enough.
29:41
Yeah.
29:41
No, I, I,
29:43
my mindset was to keep
29:44
approaching things the same
29:45
way we had all weekend,
29:46
the way we were warming up
29:47
when we were warming up,
29:49
what we were doing,
29:50
the conversations we were having,
29:52
like reinforcing to her,
29:54
our game plan is our game
29:56
plan tunnel vision.
29:58
And then you can race at the end.
30:01
Yeah, exactly.
30:02
Corey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it,
30:03
man.
30:03
Like leave it the hell alone.
30:06
Yeah.
30:08
Yeah.
30:09
If the Ferrari is running well and winning,
30:12
don't touch the engine.
30:13
Don't touch it.
30:15
Don't do anything different.
30:17
So, but yeah,
30:18
it was an interesting feeling
30:19
going into Sunday with, you know,
30:24
300 points up for grab.
30:27
And then Corey,
30:29
just as another football fan,
30:31
the saints game plan used to be,
30:32
if it ain't broke, break it.
30:34
Ah, classic.
30:35
Yeah.
30:37
so so now you go into sunday
30:41
and we start off with the
30:42
handstand workout and I
30:45
remember talking to to
30:46
hattie a long time ago she
30:48
loves being on her hands
30:50
she's great on her hands it
30:53
I think she told me it's
30:54
her favorite thing she's
30:56
really good on her hands
30:57
like really good on her
30:58
hands so then my only
31:00
question going into sunday
31:02
was how is she on the row well yeah i
31:07
yeah I think so I mean the
31:09
girls who beat her if you
31:11
go back and look it was the
31:14
row pace you know I mean
31:16
alex kazan was rowing a
31:18
freaking 145 which is crazy
31:21
um but she would catch
31:23
girls on her hands
31:24
especially when they had
31:25
the down and back section
31:26
the the middle 60 down 60
31:29
back um so for me with that
31:33
one it was just
31:34
know I posted in the stands
31:35
behind her rower and I was
31:37
just telling her the pace
31:39
to try to hold because I
31:41
knew she could hold it and
31:42
it's okay like they're
31:44
gonna get off before you
31:45
it's fine don't don't freak
31:48
out don't get stressed out
31:49
stay in your lane do your
31:51
thing right so she finishes
31:55
eighth in that event correct
31:59
Um,
32:00
so all solid top 10 finishes at this
32:02
point.
32:04
Um, in fact,
32:07
all eight or above and they
32:10
take positions.
32:11
That's pretty much a good
32:12
way to make sure you're
32:13
going to get a game spot.
32:14
Yeah.
32:15
Yeah.
32:16
Um, so at the same time now, Jacob goes,
32:20
yes, I guess is he can pull the chain.
32:22
Oh yeah.
32:22
Yeah.
32:24
Yeah.
32:25
How is he on his hands?
32:27
He's consistent.
32:29
He's not super fast yet.
32:34
He's,
32:34
he has very good handstand walk
32:36
endurance.
32:38
Uh, if you said, Hey, you know, 25, 30, 40,
32:43
50 foot unbroken sections for 200 feet,
32:49
he would without much of a problem.
32:55
But we have some room to go on speed.
32:59
Okay.
33:00
I was really proud of him
33:02
for that workout because
33:05
the third workout,
33:06
we didn't have a lot of
33:08
urgency in our transitions.
33:11
And he had a lot of urgency
33:13
in his transitions,
33:14
and he was going out there
33:16
to compete on Sunday.
33:19
So it was good.
33:20
Yeah,
33:21
the one thing I noticed with Jacob is
33:22
he'd seem like a different
33:23
athlete Sunday compared to
33:25
the other two days.
33:26
Well, if we look at those events.
33:29
He knew some home runs were
33:30
coming down the pipe.
33:31
Yeah.
33:32
Yeah.
33:35
So, okay.
33:37
So then we go into event five,
33:39
the snatch ladder.
33:43
Let's go Jacob first because
33:44
that's something he does very well.
33:47
Oh, yeah.
33:49
Uh, what was,
33:51
what was your pacing strategy
33:52
with him to make sure he
33:53
didn't blow up on that?
33:56
I told him I wanted to,
33:58
I didn't want him to push
34:01
one 85 through one 20 or two 25.
34:03
I wanted him to try to be in
34:05
a position where he could
34:06
get to two 45 and just drop the hammer.
34:10
Um,
34:11
Jacob.
34:12
So he missed two at two 45 in this event.
34:15
He flew a little too close
34:16
to the sun and he still had
34:18
the fourth best time.
34:20
Um,
34:21
Jacob's advantage in a workout like
34:23
that is if he gets the bar over his head,
34:28
his lockout is very, very good.
34:31
So the two he missed, he got spit out from,
34:33
he got too far behind the bar too early.
34:36
So it was in front a little
34:37
bit and he didn't quite finish.
34:38
Um,
34:41
But for him, it was more,
34:43
don't bite off more than we
34:44
can chew on the higher rep bars.
34:47
And then try to really punch
34:48
it on the four and the two
34:50
at the heavier weights that
34:51
you know you can hit faster
34:53
than most of the field.
34:56
And we had a fourth place
34:58
with two misses at 245.
35:00
If he doesn't miss those at 245,
35:02
he's not as fast as Colton.
35:03
What did Brent get?
35:07
Brent was only a second or two behind.
35:10
So he would have just moved
35:12
up one spot and gotten third,
35:13
but his time would have
35:14
been around the 530 mark or the 540 mark.
35:19
So then we go to the females,
35:22
and I would be remiss to
35:23
not ask you as a coach how stupid,
35:28
stupid Olivia Kerstetter was.
35:30
That was really cool to watch, man.
35:33
Literally,
35:34
Jamie and I were texting during
35:36
that event.
35:38
She texted me like, wait,
35:40
did she skip over a bar?
35:43
No, man.
35:43
She destroyed that event.
35:46
That's how fast it was.
35:47
You think she missed a bar?
35:49
I will say,
35:50
just because I've heard this
35:51
start to be kicked around,
35:55
her doing that well in that
35:56
workout is not an argument for Z-score.
36:01
CrossFit is jack of all trades,
36:03
master of none.
36:06
We don't need to overly
36:08
reward people who can do
36:10
exponentially freaky things.
36:12
It's cool, and she's still got 100 points,
36:14
as she should,
36:16
but that is not what this sport is.
36:20
We don't need to change the
36:21
scoring system to reflect it,
36:23
because if you do,
36:24
you're just going to end up
36:24
with a field of specialists.
36:28
That's not the point.
36:29
I agree.
36:30
I'll let that go.
36:33
Yeah.
36:34
I've bashed on Z-score a ton.
36:38
I think it's interesting.
36:39
I don't think that it's not
36:40
necessarily something that
36:41
can be used in the future,
36:42
but I'm not a believer as of right now.
36:47
Your reward for doing so
36:48
well in an event is that
36:49
you can take your foot off
36:50
the brake at the end of
36:51
that event and save yourself for later.
36:57
And get 100 points.
36:58
Yeah.
36:58
Yeah.
37:00
But she also could have done
37:01
that in this event and
37:02
still got 100 points.
37:04
Right.
37:06
But exactly.
37:08
She could have went a minute
37:10
slower and still won the event.
37:11
Ricky Garrard could have
37:13
walked his last 800 in Oceania,
37:17
but he didn't.
37:18
So whatever, right?
37:21
And that's your choice as an
37:22
athlete at that point.
37:23
Yeah.
37:24
If you've got half of a
37:26
football field lead on somebody in a run,
37:28
you can relax.
37:31
If you don't though, that's on you.
37:35
My son, exactly.
37:36
So the fact that how to can
37:39
you finished fifth in this
37:41
event with people like
37:43
Olivia Kirsten and Kelsey
37:46
keel and Danny Spiegel,
37:49
that was impressive.
37:52
She's strong,
37:53
she's fit and she's technical.
37:57
She reminded me so much of
38:01
Elisa Fuliano's run.
38:05
Oh, really?
38:06
In Europe.
38:07
Just smooth as fast.
38:11
And technically hitting it every time.
38:14
Yep.
38:16
I mean,
38:16
we had done that event here in Houston.
38:20
We did it with bars set up
38:22
because that was the rumor, right?
38:25
And actually Kelly was there that day.
38:27
Kelly judged her.
38:30
So we had a full little setup,
38:33
gave her reps and no reps
38:34
and all that stuff.
38:36
And I knew that was going to
38:39
be a really good event for Hattie,
38:40
even though I don't think
38:42
anybody else in the field
38:43
would have thought it would be.
38:46
And she beat her training time,
38:48
changing her weights by quite a margin,
38:52
I think.
38:56
No, she had the exact same time,
38:57
but she had to change her weights.
39:01
Can't ask for anything more than that.
39:03
Yeah, so she moved the bars faster.
39:07
So I want to finish this thread,
39:09
and we'll come back to
39:09
Jacob after this is done.
39:11
Because he really finished strong,
39:12
and I want to give him his due for that.
39:16
But at this point,
39:18
Hattie crushes the snatch ladder,
39:20
takes fifth,
39:22
And if you look at the leaderboard,
39:24
she now has clinched a spot to the games.
39:30
She doesn't even have to go
39:31
out on the floor for the
39:33
last event to have a spot to the games.
39:36
That's pretty cool.
39:39
So when she goes out there,
39:42
does she know this?
39:46
We didn't discuss it.
39:48
I think she knew that it was
39:51
highly unlikely anything could happen.
39:54
I don't know how much she
39:56
was aware of the points
39:58
rather than the placings, but I,
40:02
I know she wanted to go out
40:03
on a good foot too.
40:04
Right.
40:05
We didn't talk before the event and like,
40:07
and just, you know, coaster in,
40:10
we were going out there to
40:11
do the same thing we'd been
40:12
doing every other event.
40:14
she had she had 105 point
40:16
lead a ninth place going
40:18
into the last event so
40:20
there was no way possible
40:21
for for ninth place to get
40:24
above her yeah the reason I
40:29
ask is the last event
40:31
becomes her worst event
40:33
yeah so did any part of her mind relax
40:42
In that last event.
40:43
And I know, and I'll say it,
40:45
I don't want you to say it
40:46
because we don't need any vendettas.
40:49
There was a shitty call of a
40:52
no rep in the middle of
40:53
that workout for her.
40:55
There was, but... And again,
40:58
I don't want you to say this publicly.
41:00
I'm saying it publicly.
41:02
There was a shitty call and
41:04
made her go back...
41:06
instead of back a foot to go
41:09
behind the line,
41:10
go back a full section back.
41:12
And when your grip is shot,
41:14
that is a huge penalty.
41:18
I think for me,
41:20
where my head is at with that,
41:21
and I've thought about that a lot,
41:26
whether the call was
41:27
whatever the call was, that's actually,
41:30
that's on me, not her.
41:33
So the rule is if you appeal in a final,
41:35
you have to appeal on the floor.
41:38
And so she gets through the event,
41:40
or she's doing the event.
41:42
The no rep happens.
41:44
She comes, you know, she has to stop.
41:46
She's looks at me in the crowd.
41:47
I'm yelling at her one section at a time.
41:49
Don't be risky.
41:51
Just get it done.
41:52
Cause I know we're good.
41:53
Just finish.
41:54
It's okay.
41:55
Right.
41:56
And I could tell she was
41:57
upset a little bit.
41:59
And I was so focused on
42:01
because the goal had been
42:02
to come and make the games.
42:04
So when she finishes,
42:06
as soon as I could get her attention,
42:09
I just, I told her, I said,
42:10
how do you're going to the games?
42:12
It's okay.
42:13
We did what we came here to do.
42:17
I should have just told her to appeal it.
42:20
Right, wrong, or indifferent.
42:21
Because I couldn't see her
42:24
foot from where I was.
42:26
right?
42:26
I was, she was coming toward me,
42:28
I'm up in the stands.
42:30
And if she would have appealed,
42:32
and it would have been
42:32
they'd have said no,
42:33
the the call on the floor stands,
42:36
then it wouldn't change anything.
42:38
And if it would have changed something,
42:39
it would have changed
42:40
something for the better for us.
42:41
So for me, I walk away from that.
42:43
And I was actually really, really,
42:45
really upset with myself
42:46
that night about it,
42:48
because that's my job,
42:50
as a coach is to remember those things.
42:54
And
42:56
analogy I made right and
42:57
this is right wrong or
42:58
indifferent people like the
43:00
whatever I don't care what
43:01
people say is but belichick
43:02
and saban don't forget they
43:04
know when to throw a flag
43:05
in the playoffs so whether
43:08
the call on the floor was
43:09
right or wrong whether she
43:11
stepped on the line or not
43:14
the the end result of that
43:16
is completely on me not on
43:18
anybody else but if there's
43:21
a time to make that mistake
43:23
it's after you've already clinched
43:25
Sure, yeah, I can't be mad about that.
43:27
So now you've learned this
43:30
in a situation that doesn't
43:32
affect her games ticket.
43:33
Right.
43:35
And moving forward, now you won't forget.
43:39
Yeah, I won't forget that ever again.
43:43
Yeah,
43:43
and I will say from a performance setting,
43:49
obviously the callback was
43:50
really costly on her grip.
43:54
that workout didn't go to plan from what,
43:57
you know,
43:57
we had tested and how we were feeling.
43:59
And that's something, you know,
44:00
she and I discussed a bit,
44:01
but we're going to talk
44:02
about a lot more as we move
44:04
into games training and things like that.
44:07
And how we want to attack
44:09
what we think might have
44:10
been the issue there.
44:11
Was it fitness?
44:14
Was it a particular movement?
44:15
I mean, obviously it wasn't fitness.
44:17
It's not a fitness test,
44:18
but was it a particular
44:19
movement or was it,
44:21
where we were mentally at
44:23
the end of the competition, right?
44:25
Like those kinds of things
44:26
and that stuff she and I will dive into.
44:29
Um, but I, I definitely, yeah.
44:34
23rd on that was we,
44:35
we didn't go into the weekend knowing,
44:37
okay, this is,
44:38
this is going to be our one, right?
44:41
Um,
44:41
she had done testing intervals of it
44:43
and put up very competitive times.
44:45
So sometimes shit just happens.
44:51
But if that no rep doesn't
44:54
happen and she doesn't have
44:57
to pick up the dumbbells
44:58
twice and move them back a full thing,
45:02
she doesn't finish 23rd either.
45:05
Scott,
45:06
if she got over the line less than a
45:08
second faster, she doesn't finish 23rd.
45:10
If you go look at the times for the event.
45:14
Yeah.
45:14
Well, like even with all that, like, yeah.
45:19
Yeah.
45:20
yeah so so then you finish
45:25
the weekend you've achieved
45:27
your goal but your your
45:30
finishing event is not
45:32
optimal sure she's
45:35
interviewed after the event
45:37
and they ask her what she's
45:38
going to work on between
45:39
now and the games and she
45:41
immediately says heavy lunges
45:44
Yeah.
45:45
Because that is what a competitor does.
45:48
They don't think about the stuff they did.
45:50
Well,
45:51
they think about the one thing they
45:52
did wrong.
45:55
How do you now talk to her
45:59
about that to say, listen,
46:01
we accomplished something
46:02
really good and we're going to,
46:04
we're going to fix some
46:05
holes between now and the games.
46:08
I mean, it's just that, really.
46:10
You know,
46:11
when she came back to the athlete area,
46:14
we talked and she was a
46:16
little sad about it.
46:19
And I just said, you know,
46:20
we did what we came here to do.
46:25
And as any athlete,
46:27
you know,
46:28
she wanted to be on the podium
46:29
once she realized she could
46:30
be on the podium and she
46:30
had been in the driver's
46:31
seat all weekend.
46:32
So it's, it was like this weird,
46:33
bittersweet thing of dang,
46:36
that kind of sucks.
46:36
Cause we were, we were right there to that,
46:39
but also let's enjoy this
46:41
moment of doing what we came here to do.
46:46
And knowing that you can do
46:47
this and you can compete
46:49
with the best and punch a games ticket.
46:51
So for me,
46:52
at that point with her as a coach,
46:55
I didn't want her
46:56
ruminating on that moment.
47:00
We have time to fix things.
47:01
We have time to work on
47:03
heavy lunging under various conditions.
47:05
fatigues and loads and
47:08
whatever like that's the
47:09
x's and o's I wanted her to
47:11
enjoy the punching of the
47:14
game's ticket still and
47:16
finishing fourth having a
47:17
game spot clinched before
47:19
the last event in a stacked
47:21
field of women like she did
47:23
an amazing job all weekend
47:26
and so that's what I wanted
47:27
her to kind of feel and
47:28
have in that moment um
47:31
rather than beating herself
47:33
up over that event right
47:36
So how much cooler is it
47:40
that she punches her ticket
47:43
and it wasn't eighth or
47:47
seventh just over the line?
47:49
Yeah.
47:50
She was competing with two
47:55
of the top five women in
47:56
the world and Abigail Domet
48:01
and Emily Rolfe.
48:03
Yeah.
48:06
I knew she could, you know, nobody,
48:10
this year has been really
48:11
fun with Hattie.
48:12
Like I only coached her clear.
48:14
She took fourth, but she tied.
48:17
Right.
48:20
I only coached Hattie for a
48:22
brief time last year prior to semifinals,
48:24
you know?
48:26
And so this year has been a
48:27
lot of me learning her and, and,
48:33
um, getting to know what she needs more.
48:37
And I don't know,
48:39
it's just really fulfilling
48:40
to see her achieve that
48:44
goal that I think sometimes
48:46
a lot of people want the goal, but don't,
48:49
you know, it's,
48:50
it's risky emotionally to
48:53
say that you can do
48:54
something like that because
48:54
it is so hard.
48:56
Um, so I'm just super proud of her for,
49:00
um,
49:01
putting in the work and
49:02
doing those things.
49:02
And as a coach, I,
49:06
I greatly appreciate the
49:08
trust to be the person that
49:12
she trusts to guide her to that goal.
49:15
Um,
49:17
I couldn't be more proud of
49:18
her for the job she did.
49:21
Are you Coach Krispy Kreme?
49:23
Jody Lynn asks,
49:23
are Coach Krispy Kreme and
49:26
Hattie just regular
49:27
individual coach and athlete,
49:28
or are they from one of the camps?
49:31
I think technically you're a camp.
49:33
Technically.
49:34
You're a newer camp.
49:35
Yeah.
49:37
And for people who don't know, Tristan,
49:40
so his real name is Tristan Patrick.
49:42
We just call him Coach
49:43
Krispy Kreme on this show.
49:44
So dubbed by Kenneth DeLapp.
49:48
Well done, Kenneth.
49:49
And he coached Kelly Baker
49:53
last year to the games.
49:57
And with that, he was coaching Hattie,
49:59
Madison, McElhaney.
50:03
Jacob, Savannah.
50:05
Yeah, a ton.
50:06
And you're still coaching a
50:08
lot of athletes, but you're a newer camp.
50:11
You're a newer coach to the scene.
50:14
So what I think is cool is
50:18
Kelly and Hattie and
50:19
Madison and Jacob putting
50:22
all their trust in you as a
50:23
new coach shows how good you are.
50:29
I like to think I know some stuff.
50:31
You don't have the resume of
50:32
Justin Cutler or Maxwell
50:34
Hodge or Ben Bergeron or, you know.
50:39
Yeah.
50:41
But a lot of people,
50:42
a lot of people put their
50:44
trust in you and you have
50:46
proven that you are up to
50:48
the task by far.
50:51
I appreciate it.
50:51
I put a lot of time and
50:57
mental effort into it.
51:00
Probably an unhealthy amount,
51:03
but I don't have as many
51:05
years of experience to be
51:07
comfortable maybe,
51:08
or as easily comfortable
51:09
with what I put on a piece
51:10
of paper as some of the other coaches.
51:13
So Jody,
51:14
he is the head coach at ascend
51:17
that the shirt he has on right now,
51:21
send athlete.
51:23
Um, and they're in Houston area,
51:25
the Houston area.
51:29
But Hattie lives in... And
51:31
one thing that they learned,
51:32
and I want to have Hattie
51:33
on with you at some point
51:34
to talk about what you guys
51:36
learned last year and the
51:38
big changes you made this
51:39
year that changed her whole
51:42
world in this journey.
51:47
But I think that's way too
51:48
long for this show.
51:54
And that's what I respect
51:56
about you most is you tried one thing,
51:59
You went back to the drawing
52:00
board after talking to your athlete,
52:02
and this year you did a
52:03
completely different thing.
52:05
Yeah.
52:07
And so I think that's what's really cool.
52:10
So let's finish up Jacob,
52:14
and then we'll talk about the event.
52:15
Oh, yeah.
52:16
Jacob.
52:17
So Jacob finishes the last event in 13th?
52:22
I think so.
52:29
place maybe 12th 12th so he
52:33
he has a good finish with a
52:34
fourth place and a 12th
52:36
finish yeah now looking at
52:39
him for the the offseason
52:42
is it all running is it all
52:44
burpees is it the Madison
52:45
McElhaney approach with Jacob
52:48
It's a refined version of it.
52:50
I've learned some things
52:51
since even Madison's off
52:52
season that I want to
52:54
incorporate with Jacob.
52:56
And I mean, a lot of my athletes,
52:58
but especially the,
53:00
those power-based athletes, um,
53:03
for their off seasons,
53:05
but I'm really excited for
53:08
Jacob's off season.
53:09
There's going to be a lot of
53:10
running for sure.
53:11
There's going to be a lot of, you know,
53:14
some pulling work and things like that.
53:17
Um,
53:20
You and I had texted a
53:21
little bit about this,
53:22
and I'm really excited for
53:24
Jacob's offseason and his next year.
53:29
We've cleared quarterfinals now.
53:33
Pending,
53:33
they don't change how many people go.
53:37
He no longer needs to be
53:38
concerned with qualifying
53:39
through quarterfinals very much.
53:41
We just need to make sure
53:42
we're polished enough.
53:44
at that point and then we'll
53:45
know you know if
53:47
semi-finals is very close
53:48
to quarterfinals then we'll
53:49
be very polished but if
53:51
there is you know eight
53:52
weeks or something then
53:53
we'll still be kind of
53:54
building and making sure
53:57
that his sword is getting
53:58
sharper but um there's a
54:02
lot of not a lot of things
54:04
that we need to improve on
54:06
I mean I want him to
54:06
improve on everything of
54:08
course but there's
54:11
some things that we can do
54:12
outside of the gym as well
54:14
to really set him up for
54:15
success next year.
54:17
And I'm very excited for
54:22
what we can bring to
54:23
semifinals next year with Jacob.
54:25
If,
54:30
if people know enough about the sport
54:32
and they can see what he can do,
54:34
and then they see where his holes are,
54:37
when those get filled,
54:38
that's going to be a problem.
54:41
Very cool.
54:43
So now we have a couple
54:45
months till the games.
54:47
Yeah.
54:48
Like two and a half ish too.
54:50
Well, I guess now just two.
54:52
So what, what's up now?
54:56
How many weeks does Hattie have off?
54:59
She took the rest of the week off.
55:01
Um,
55:01
I think she's actually flying back home
55:02
today.
55:03
Um,
55:05
She doesn't have anything
55:06
for the rest of the week.
55:09
If I know Hattie,
55:10
she'll probably do the
55:11
community class at her gym on Saturday,
55:14
which is fine.
55:16
And we'll start breaking off
55:18
the rust and things on Saturday.
55:24
next week and she and I'll
55:26
jump on a call Monday to
55:29
debrief semifinals things
55:31
we did well things we want
55:32
to improve on things that
55:34
she liked things she didn't
55:36
and then start really
55:38
putting together some more
55:40
of the nuts and bolts of
55:41
the plan for games prep
55:44
hopefully some trips out to
55:45
Houston for training things
55:48
like that we got to get her
55:49
ready for the heat for sure
55:50
and all that stuff
55:53
So when she comes to Houston,
55:54
do you try to find some
55:56
athletes to push her during testing?
56:00
We didn't for semifinals because...
56:06
I mean, I just didn't need it.
56:08
I could just get what I
56:09
needed and write it on a piece of paper,
56:10
right?
56:11
For games prep, yes, 100%.
56:13
I will be volunteering
56:16
sacrificial lambs to do
56:19
workouts with her.
56:20
And it's really not that hard,
56:21
and it usually is very fun for everybody.
56:23
It's, you know, okay,
56:25
Hattie's doing this weight,
56:26
you're doing this weight,
56:27
and maybe this reps, try to beat her.
56:30
It's good for everybody.
56:32
And it's a lot of fun.
56:34
We have a decent number of
56:36
Ascend athletes that are in-house.
56:38
Some fit people who just go
56:39
to the gym as well who like
56:41
to jump in on stuff.
56:43
I'm sure I'll make Jacob
56:44
come up here if there's
56:44
anything long she's doing.
56:48
He can volunteer for that too.
56:50
But yeah, it'll be a lot of fun.
56:56
Sorry.
56:59
We'll be rooting, of course, as always.
57:02
we'll do these every week,
57:03
every couple of weeks,
57:05
checking in on everything and,
57:07
and all the stuff going on
57:08
in the CrossFit space.
57:10
I'm super stoked to see you, man.
57:13
Thank you, man.
57:14
I appreciate it.
57:15
Probably see you Friday.
57:17
Yeah.
57:18
Yeah.
57:18
I get in Thursday.
57:20
Yeah.
57:20
I'll see you Friday.
57:22
Got to go lock it up for the team now.
57:26
Yeah.
57:27
Good times.
57:28
And not now Knoxville over the weekend.
57:30
I've never been.
57:33
It's all right.
57:35
All right.
57:37
Fair enough.
57:38
Been there a couple times.
57:40
Listen,
57:41
I've said it on this show a million
57:42
times.
57:43
I love going to semifinals
57:44
more than I love going to the games.
57:46
Yeah.
57:47
The story's better.
57:47
The tension's better.
57:49
The access to the athletes is better.
57:51
Yeah.
57:54
Everything about semifinals
57:55
is so much more fun than the games.
57:58
The game is on lockdown.
58:00
It's a show.
58:00
It's on ESPN.
58:03
Everything is like tick, tick, tick.
58:06
Semifinals are freaking wild.
58:08
I can't say that I love the
58:09
tension of semifinals as much as you do,
58:12
but I appreciate that
58:13
you... If you were a spectator,
58:15
isn't that why you watch sports?
58:17
Oh, yeah, totally.
58:19
Right?
58:20
I still battle hard with...
58:25
I'm fine until I go sit down
58:27
when they're going on the field.
58:29
And then I immediately want
58:31
to throw up immediately.
58:34
It doesn't matter who I coach.
58:35
It doesn't matter if it's, you know,
58:37
like an intermediate level
58:39
athlete that I'm working with at TFX.
58:41
When they go on the floor,
58:42
I get sick to my stomach.
58:45
Dude.
58:46
All I do is interview these
58:47
people and talk to them and
58:49
sometimes become their friends.
58:51
I get emotional on the final day.
58:54
Like the,
58:55
when I know people are just damn
58:57
good people, I want them to succeed.
59:00
And like when they, when they miss it,
59:03
I get, I get emotional.
59:06
Yeah.
59:07
He had a bad first day and I
59:09
talked to her in the hallway.
59:10
Like I was crushed for her.
59:14
I've, I mean,
59:14
now that I've been doing this
59:16
a little while,
59:17
I've started to develop
59:18
friendships with other
59:19
coaches and meet some of
59:20
their athletes and, you know,
59:22
friends of friends that I coach.
59:23
And it's tough when people
59:26
you like don't do well, like it sucks.
59:31
It does.
59:32
But that's why,
59:33
that's why we love the sport.
59:34
That's why people watch it.
59:36
And hopefully we find a way
59:38
to make this thing work better.
59:43
What is the saying?
59:44
The only way forward is through.
59:48
And where we're at after the
59:49
attendance in California, only way is up.
59:54
Yeah, that's true.
59:58
Stands were thin.
59:59
Granted, obviously I could have cared less,
1:00:01
but the stands were thin.
1:00:04
But if people don't come,
1:00:06
we don't have a sport.
1:00:07
Yeah, totally.
1:00:08
Right?
1:00:10
So, yeah.
1:00:13
Corey says the obstacle is the way.
1:00:15
Corey,
1:00:16
don't be dropping some stoicism in here.
1:00:17
I'll have to start sending
1:00:18
you stuff on Instagram.
1:00:23
I wish Corey was going to.
1:00:24
He says he wishes he was going.
1:00:25
That'd be cool.
1:00:26
The guy's a freaking blast
1:00:28
to hang out with.
1:00:29
I listened to like half of
1:00:30
y'all's podcast the other day.
1:00:31
It was funny.
1:00:32
He's a good dude.
1:00:34
So good.
1:00:36
Yep.
1:00:36
Yeah,
1:00:37
we had a blast at Masters Fitness
1:00:38
Collective last year.
1:00:41
But yeah,
1:00:41
you should have heard the after show.
1:00:43
The after show I think was
1:00:44
funnier than the actual show.
1:00:46
We should have left the tape rolling.
1:00:49
Just let it go, man.
1:00:50
Just let it go.
1:00:52
Yeah.
1:00:54
So with that,
1:00:56
thank you everybody for being
1:00:57
in the chat.
1:00:58
You guys have been awesome.
1:01:00
Thank you, Tristan, for being on.
1:01:02
And we'll do this again in a week or two.
1:01:05
Yeah.
1:01:06
Talk about how syndicate goes.
1:01:08
Yep.
1:01:09
With that,
1:01:09
we will catch everybody next
1:01:11
time on chopping it up with
1:01:14
coach Krispy Kreme.
1:01:16
Bye guys.