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The Gemini Method · 10 Minute Murder | Bingeable True Crime Stories

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  Speaker 1: So the story goes. In nineteen eighty three, Brooklyn, New York,
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  Speaker 1: young John Gottie, not quite the infamous leader of America's
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  Speaker 1: biggest crime syndicate just yet, was approached by the leaders
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  Speaker 1: of his crime syndicate in order to commit a hit
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  Speaker 1: on one of their own. John Gotti allegedly refused, not
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  Speaker 1: out of any sense of loyalty towards the man he'd
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  Speaker 1: been instruck to kill, but because the man in question
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  Speaker 1: was simply just that dangerous but notoriously brutal. Roy Albert
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  Speaker 1: Demeyo hadn't been born the man that he'd become. He
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  Speaker 1: came into the world the fourth out of what would
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  Speaker 1: be five children to housewife Eleanor Demeyo and Antonio Joseph DeMeo,
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  Speaker 1: the delivery man for a laundry company. That hardly seems
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  Speaker 1: the likely familial background for someone about to make history
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  Speaker 1: in a harsh and cruel way, but the Brooklyn streets
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  Speaker 1: were about to become the learning grounds for a burgeoning
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  Speaker 1: crime lord. On the surface, young roy Demeyo was doing
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  Speaker 1: everything he could to get a safe and law abiding
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  Speaker 1: start in life. He graduated high school alongside other names
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  Speaker 1: that would be famous in the future like Walter Block
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  Speaker 1: and Bernie Sanders, and then he got a profession. Roy
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  Speaker 1: found both work and an education in the butcher section
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  Speaker 1: of a local supermarket, where he learned how to dismember
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  Speaker 1: and render animal carcasses and turn them into packaged meat
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  Speaker 1: to sell at the counter. But hiding just below that
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  Speaker 1: facade was the up and coming young criminal, firmly set
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  Speaker 1: on his ways to a life imbued with crime. Roy
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  Speaker 1: had started on this path back when he was still
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  Speaker 1: a high schooler. He and a few others under his
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  Speaker 1: wings set up a lone shark operation, and by the
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  Speaker 1: time Roy was about to turn twenty, he was already
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  Speaker 1: making a name for himself. Nino, an associate and later
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  Speaker 1: bigwig in the notorious Gambino crime family, noticed how well
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  Speaker 1: Roy was running his operation and approached him with an offer.
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  Speaker 1: There would be more money to have, he told the
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  Speaker 1: young Roy de Mayo if Roy aligned himself with the Gambinos.
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  Speaker 1: This offer came to Roy at a delicate time in
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  Speaker 1: his life. His father had just died of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: heart attack, and the loss had split his surviving family
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  Speaker 1: into pieces. The older children stayed in America, but Eleanor
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  Speaker 1: took her fifth and youngest child with her and moved
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  Speaker 1: back to Italy. This left the still only nineteen year
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  Speaker 1: old Roy practically on his own and with no one
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  Speaker 1: to warn him of the potential dangers that would follow
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  Speaker 1: Affiliating himself with the mafia, Roy agreed to become a
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  Speaker 1: Gambino associate, and he brought with him the same drive
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  Speaker 1: and intelligence that had gotten him noticed in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: As Roy climbed the ranks, he proved his worth. He
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  Speaker 1: still made money as a loan shark, but he also
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  Speaker 1: put his crew together and began stealing cars and trafficking narcotics.
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  Speaker 1: Now all he needed was away to launder his ill
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  Speaker 1: gotten money. Roy wormed his way into the Brooklyn Credit
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  Speaker 1: Union and then made it onto the board. He used
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  Speaker 1: the union's transactions to clean his own money and then
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  Speaker 1: started approaching his colleagues with tempting offers. Money came out
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  Speaker 1: of the union to help build Roy's loan shark operation,
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  Speaker 1: but it also came in from multiple sources as well.
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  Speaker 1: Roy and the colleagues he managed to sway began laundering
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  Speaker 1: money for drug dealers and other criminals, and this made
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  Speaker 1: Roy a very popular man in the seedy Brooklyn underworld,
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  Speaker 1: but he wasn't exactly popular with everyone. During the nineteen seventies,
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  Speaker 1: one of his men turned on him. Andrea Katz, Roy's
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  Speaker 1: partner in the Demeyo Creu's ongoing car theft operation, volunteered
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  Speaker 1: himself to the authorities. He confessed to the long list
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  Speaker 1: of crimes that he and the crew were up to
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  Speaker 1: and became an informant. Roy had been betrayed, and he
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  Speaker 1: saw only one way to deal with it. He and
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  Speaker 1: the other members of the Dameyo crew lured Andrea to
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  Speaker 1: an apartment. Andrea thought he was about to go on
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  Speaker 1: a date with a woman, but what he didn't know
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  Speaker 1: was that there was a group of men lying in
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  Speaker 1: waits just behind the apartment door. Andrea stepped into the
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  Speaker 1: apartment that evening, and then he was escorted back out
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  Speaker 1: by the very criminals he had just given up by
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  Speaker 1: the authorities. Roy and his crew then led Andrea to
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  Speaker 1: the butchers at a local supermarket, where they made sure
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  Speaker 1: that he would not be talking to the police again. First,
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  Speaker 1: they stabbed Andrea in the heart and back with the
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  Speaker 1: butcher's knife, and then they decapitated him. They put his
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  Speaker 1: head into the trash compactor usually used for flattening cardboard boxes,
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  Speaker 1: and turned it on. While his head was being crushed,
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  Speaker 1: His former friends and colleagues set about carving his body
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  Speaker 1: into pieces. A pedestrian found his remains a few days later,
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  Speaker 1: hidden between the dumpsters behind the supermarket. A cruel end,
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  Speaker 1: but Andrea turning on the crew had taught Roy a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things. First was that even the people he
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  Speaker 1: trusted the most could turn on him, and second was
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  Speaker 1: that he and his crew would need a more efficient
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  Speaker 1: way of getting rid of those snitches when they did arise. Roy,
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  Speaker 1: just like he had by taking Andre to the butcher's
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  Speaker 1: in the first place, thought back to his early days
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  Speaker 1: and came up with a solution. He liked the bit
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  Speaker 1: about luring his victims in, so he kept that part
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  Speaker 1: in the plan, but switched the location to the apartment
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  Speaker 1: buildings right beside the Gemini Lounge, the crew's usual hangout.
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  Speaker 1: But then came the question of what to do with
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  Speaker 1: his victims when he had The whole business with the
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  Speaker 1: compactor had been messy and time consuming, and even after
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  Speaker 1: all of that, the investigator still had been able to
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  Speaker 1: identify Andre through his dental records. Roy and his gang
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  Speaker 1: hit the drawing boards Together, they figured out that the
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  Speaker 1: quickest way to kill someone was to shoot them in
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  Speaker 1: the head a silencer and wrapping the gun in a
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  Speaker 1: towel would make sure that no one heard the shots,
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  Speaker 1: and then a quick stab to the heart would stop
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  Speaker 1: the blood flow and make the clean up beasier. They
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  Speaker 1: could put the body in a bathtub to drain, and
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  Speaker 1: all that was left to do then was to slice
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  Speaker 1: up and package the deceased. Just like he had done
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  Speaker 1: during his time at the butcher's, Roy wrapped up body
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  Speaker 1: parts in plastic wrap and then put them in plastic bags.
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  Speaker 1: He and the other members of the crew would then
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  Speaker 1: put these bags into boxes and take them to the dump,
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  Speaker 1: where these boxes would very quickly disappear amongst the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the rubbish. The plan was practically fool proof, and
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  Speaker 1: what became known as the Gemini method became the go
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  Speaker 1: to solution whenever someone in the game Aibino family needed
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  Speaker 1: to take care of someone make them disappear. As if
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  Speaker 1: washing their money and now handling their dirty business wasn't enough,
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  Speaker 1: Roy actually managed to do one more thing to strengthen
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  Speaker 1: his position with the Gambinos. He suggested that they joined
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  Speaker 1: forces with an Irish American gang called the Westies, and
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  Speaker 1: the partnership ended up being incredibly lucrative for both gangs.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like everything Roy touched turned to gold, and
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  Speaker 1: to celebrate him and his success, the Gambinos officially welcomed
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  Speaker 1: him into the family. He was a made man. There were, however,
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  Speaker 1: some conditions to him becoming an official family member. Roy
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  Speaker 1: and his crew couldn't be allowed to deal drugs anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and they were supposed to ask permission before committing any murders.
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  Speaker 1: The conditions sounded simple enough, but Roy didn't like them.
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  Speaker 1: Dealing drugs was still a huge part of his income,
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  Speaker 1: and so he ordered his crew to continue trafficking. Then
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  Speaker 1: there was the part about killing. Roy found he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: keep up with that bit either. Many believed that during
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  Speaker 1: his lifetime, Roy killed at least forty people himself, most
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  Speaker 1: of which ended up disappearing under the Gemini method, but
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  Speaker 1: there were some that got away. One of them, a
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  Speaker 1: young door to door salesman who'd parked outside Roy's house
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  Speaker 1: one day, suddenly found himself in a frantic and dangerous
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  Speaker 1: car chase. Roy was still supposed to be operating under
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  Speaker 1: the condition that he'd ask permission before killing anyone, but
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  Speaker 1: Dominic Ragucci looked like a Cuban cartel member to Roy,
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  Speaker 1: and Roy wasn't taking any chances. Dominic was actually just
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  Speaker 1: a student who was trying to make some extra money
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  Speaker 1: by working as a salesman, but he ended up being
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  Speaker 1: killed by Roy anyway. Allegedly, when Roy found out that
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  Speaker 1: he'd murdered an innocent young man with no gang affiliations whatsoever,
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  Speaker 1: he broke down into tears. The shock of what he
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  Speaker 1: had done strengthened his growing sense of paranoia and weakened
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  Speaker 1: his relationships with most everyone around him. By then, the
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  Speaker 1: Feds were looking for anything and everything they could to
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  Speaker 1: get their hands on to try to take the Gambino
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  Speaker 1: family down, and Roy had just given them something huge
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  Speaker 1: to use. He'd gone from being a major asset to
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  Speaker 1: a massive weakness, and the Gambino family wanted him gone.
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  Speaker 1: That was when John Gotti was approached and allegedly refused
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  Speaker 1: the hit. The Gambinos asked a few other hitmen to
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  Speaker 1: handle the business, but all either refused or simply couldn't
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  Speaker 1: do it. Allegedly, it was Nino Gadget, Roy's mentor and
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  Speaker 1: the man who'd introduced Roy to the Gambinos in the
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  Speaker 1: first place, who was the one who completed the hit.
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  Speaker 1: On January tenth, nineteen eighty three, Roy and his crew
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  Speaker 1: went to a meeting, thinking that it would be one
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  Speaker 1: just like any other, Only Roy never left. Ten days later,
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  Speaker 1: he was found in the trunk of his car, which
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  Speaker 1: had been abandoned at a Brooklyn boat club. He'd been
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  Speaker 1: shot several times, and the winter weather had partially frozen
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