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GLAM 'SUPER-MOM' Sherri Papini FAKES OWN KIDNAP AND TORTURE, WALKS FREE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Imagine coming home and calling out to your children and
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Speaker 2: your spouse, and no one answers.
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Speaker 1: You know immediately things have gone sideways. You launch a.
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Speaker 2: Desperate search, finding your taught children still at daycare, but
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Speaker 2: where's your spouse. Then you find your spouse's cell phone,
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Speaker 2: the cord wrapped neatly around it, attached to earbuds, and
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Speaker 2: some of your spouse's hair caught tangled up in that cord.
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Speaker 2: You know everything has gone sideways. Of course, I'm talking
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Speaker 2: about the case of Sherry Peppini, the missing mom who
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Speaker 2: faked her entire disappearance, going so far as to brand herself. Yes,
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Speaker 2: you heard me, brand herself, you know, like with a
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Speaker 2: hot poker, brand herself with something that looks like hieroglyphics,
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Speaker 2: and lose about forty pounds, beat herself and chop off
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Speaker 2: her hair to make her disappearance more believable. We find
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Speaker 2: out the entire time her husband is sick, her children
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Speaker 2: are crying from mommy. The whole world has turned upside
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Speaker 2: down looking for Chery Peppini. She was hold up in
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Speaker 2: her old boyfriend's apartment. Good grief woman, I'mancy Grace. This
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Speaker 2: described Stories, Thanks for being with us here at Fox Nation.
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Speaker 2: In series six sem one eleven. In The Last Days,
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Speaker 2: I Break and the Cheery Peppinie Fake Kidnapping case, Chery Peppinie,
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Speaker 2: everybody who cost police thousands of man hours and tens
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Speaker 2: of thousand of dollars in the search has just walked free.
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Speaker 2: That's right, California Moms. Sherry Pepini has been released from prison.
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Speaker 2: How did the whole thing start?
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Speaker 3: Hello? Can I help you? Yeah? So I just got
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Speaker 3: home from work, and uh, my wife wasn't there, which
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Speaker 3: is unusual, and my kids should have been there by
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Speaker 3: now from like daycare. So I was like, oh, maybe
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Speaker 3: she went on a walk. I couldn't find her, so
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Speaker 3: I called the daycare to see what time she picked
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Speaker 3: up the kids. The kids were never picked up, so
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Speaker 3: I got freaked out. So I hit like to find
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Speaker 3: MyPhone app thing and it said that her. It showed
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Speaker 3: her phone like at our end of our driveway. We
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Speaker 3: don't have really good service. Okay, not the end of
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Speaker 3: our driveway, at the end of our street, but just
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Speaker 3: drove down there and I saw her phone with their
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Speaker 3: headphones because she started running again and it's her found
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Speaker 3: her phone and it's got like hair ripped out of it,
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Speaker 3: like in the headphones. So I'm like totally freaking out,
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Speaker 3: thinking like somebody like, let's hers.
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Speaker 2: Grab thank you, and someone grabbed her. Now take a
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Speaker 2: listen to our cut one from Channel seven kr c R.
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Speaker 4: Keith Papini came home last Wednesday and his wife, Sherry Pappini,
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Speaker 4: was nowhere to be found.
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Speaker 5: In normal days, I would open the door and my
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Speaker 5: families comes and runs and gives me a hug.
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Speaker 4: But there were no welcoming hugs. So he searched in
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Speaker 4: the house and their property, but learned the children were
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Speaker 4: still at daycare. He found Sherry's phone down the street.
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Speaker 5: That's when I knew she'd been, in my opinion, taken
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Speaker 5: or abducted.
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Speaker 4: Now days later, family, friends, the community, and law enforcement
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Speaker 4: are still looking for Sherry.
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Speaker 5: It's the worst thing in the world. It's the worst
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Speaker 5: thing ever.
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Speaker 4: Time going by slowly and their children don't know their
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Speaker 4: mother is missing.
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Speaker 5: It's hard waiting.
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Speaker 6: You know, you're waiting.
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Speaker 5: You're waiting for a phone call, You're waiting for something
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Speaker 5: to tell us. You know, this is the direction, or
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Speaker 5: this is the house, or this is the car, and
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Speaker 5: that is It's very difficult right now, but.
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Speaker 4: Keith is determined to find her.
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Speaker 5: If she's listening, I wanted to say that we're trying
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Speaker 5: the best we can and I'm so sorry that I'm
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Speaker 5: not there.
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Speaker 4: The family believes she was abducted and has this message.
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Speaker 5: Bring her home, Bring her home, Just bring her home.
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Speaker 2: We all know that Peppini was on a very tight
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Speaker 2: schedule that she never missed picking up her children. Take
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Speaker 2: listen to her sister in law, Sherry Peppini are cut five.
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Speaker 7: There's no way she would do anything to disrupt her
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Speaker 7: children's routine, you know, the being that the phone was
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Speaker 7: found and she wasn't on her routine there. Yeah, there's
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Speaker 7: no way she wouldn't have gone and picked up the children.
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Speaker 7: They're on a very they're on a very tight schedule,
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Speaker 7: and she's extremely close with them. She's here with them
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Speaker 7: every day gardening and doing projects, and there's there's just
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Speaker 7: no way that she would take off.
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Speaker 1: It's terrible.
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Speaker 7: She's an incredible human being, best mom I've ever seen.
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Speaker 2: You're hearing the sister in law, Suzanne speaking I Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 2: here at Fox Nation. In series XEM one eleven. Sherry Peppini,
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Speaker 2: a name that echoes and echoes and echoes. She's been
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Speaker 2: in the news so much. With me an all star
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Speaker 2: panel to make sense of what we know right now.
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Speaker 2: Matthew Mangino, former prosecutor, highly respected attorney, author of the
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Speaker 2: Executioners Toll, Doctor Angela Arnold, psychiatrist joining us out of
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Speaker 2: the Atlanta jurisdiction at Angela Arnold, MD dot com. Mona
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Speaker 2: Kay private investigator at Mona Ka Investigations joining us out
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Speaker 2: of Omaha. Emmy Award winning investigative reporter Christy Missourich and
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Speaker 2: special guests joining us. Sheriff Michael Johnson from the Shasta
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Speaker 2: Counties Sheriff's Office to Sheriff Michael Johnson.
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Speaker 1: This case has been hanging.
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Speaker 2: Around the Sheriff's office neck an Albatrosso to speak Sheriff
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Speaker 2: Michael Johnson, familiar with the extensive search for Sherry Peppini.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to the Shasta County Sheriff presser.
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Speaker 8: The deputies last night when they responded, they conducted a
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Speaker 8: search of the area and canvas area with local neighbors
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Speaker 8: and residents there, and they worked throughout the night and
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Speaker 8: into the early morning hours along with Shasta County Sheriff
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Speaker 8: investigators as well. They were also able to utilize the
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Speaker 8: Reach helicopter as the HP Air Operations helicopter was not available,
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Speaker 8: and they Reached helicopter came out and illuminated the area
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Speaker 8: and checked the fields in the side of the roads
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Speaker 8: for her and assisting us in the search operations last night.
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Speaker 8: They also used search canines for scent work. Local area
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Speaker 8: hospitals were checked and of course the sides of the
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Speaker 8: roadways were checked as well. Ms Puppini has been entered
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Speaker 8: into a national computer per missing persons. She is considered
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Speaker 8: at risk due to the suspicious circumstances.
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Speaker 2: To Sheriff Michael Johnson joining us in Shasta County Sheriff's Office,
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Speaker 2: it's a real honor and privilege to have you with us, Sheriff.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking time away from your extremely busy
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Speaker 2: schedule to be with us, Sheriff. You guys went all
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Speaker 2: out and your search for Sherry Peppini.
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Speaker 1: Explain what your search entailed.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Nancy, there was three really different parts to this investigation,
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Speaker 9: and when you're talking about the search, that's really like
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Speaker 9: what we call the phase one of the investigation. She
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Speaker 9: went missing, and immediately you heard there was several different
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Speaker 9: resources deployed to find her. The location of Sherry Peppini
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Speaker 9: was absolutely the first phase where we just want to
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Speaker 9: Time's never on your side when somebody goes missing, So
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Speaker 9: the sooner you can locate them or get a lead
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Speaker 9: on locating them, the better chances you are of recovering
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Speaker 9: that personal live. So there was allied agencies asked to
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Speaker 9: lend us resources, and most of those resources were in personnel.
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Speaker 10: As you heard, we had.
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Speaker 9: Dogs, that had helicopters, we had everything, an all out
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Speaker 9: search in the community. The community even joined in, you know,
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Speaker 9: printing flyers and volunteer people coming out and looking for her.
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Speaker 9: It was an all out effort to find Sherry.
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Speaker 2: At the beginning, I remember exactly how this whole thing
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Speaker 2: went down, and the Sheriff's office and other agencies spared
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Speaker 2: no resources trying to find Sherry Pepinie. And what I
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Speaker 2: hear about the helicopter on most people never seen it
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Speaker 2: in real life, but seen in the movies. The helicopter
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Speaker 2: flying close to the ground overhead, which you know, helicopters
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Speaker 2: can be a pretty risky mode of transportation, but if
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Speaker 2: you've got to do it. You got to do it,
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Speaker 2: but in a suburban area, looking for her, flying over
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Speaker 2: phone wires and cell phone towers, looking for her at
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Speaker 2: night with a light shining down.
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Speaker 1: Describe how that works, Shriff.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's you know, they have infrared technology. They have
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Speaker 9: a lot of different high end technology that goes into this,
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Speaker 9: not just in the helicopter, but on the ground as well.
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Speaker 9: There's efforts, there's people where a night vision, there's everything,
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Speaker 9: all all expense paid to locate this woman. And and
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Speaker 9: the that's one of the keys here, Nancy, is when
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Speaker 9: you talk about the exhausting efforts of all the agencies
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Speaker 9: into this initial search and throughout this investigation, and the
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Speaker 9: resources and time and money spent on this, all to
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Speaker 9: find out in the end that it's a fraud, it's
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Speaker 9: very frustrating. Then one thing I should tell you also,
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Speaker 9: and I could remember that during the time Sherry Peppini
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Speaker 9: went missing, I was actually the neighboring police chief at
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Speaker 9: the time, I was not the sheriff, So I was
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Speaker 9: lending resources from my department to the sheriff's office in
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Speaker 9: the attempt to find Cherry. So everybody was involved.
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Speaker 2: And now to find out it's nothing but a big
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Speaker 2: fat lie. I mean, this woman knows no bounds in
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Speaker 2: her lies. Take a listen to our cut eight Allison Sutton,
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Speaker 2: a motorist who spots the missing mom on the side.
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Speaker 1: Of the road.
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Speaker 11: I saw a blind, a blonde woman standing in like
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Speaker 11: that V shaped area that gets created between the right
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Speaker 11: shoulder and the left side of an off ramp. But
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Speaker 11: I wasn't quite sure where I was when I saw her.
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Speaker 11: I just caught a glimpse of her. The area where
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Speaker 11: she was is not well lit, so I didn't actually
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Speaker 11: see her until I was right up on her, which
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Speaker 11: really startled me. And it kind of took me a
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Speaker 11: few minutes to figure out what I'd seen, and I
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Speaker 11: went a couple miles up the road to figure out
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Speaker 11: where until I saw a road sign so I knew
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Speaker 11: where I was. And then I pulled off onto the
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Speaker 11: shoulder and I called nine one one.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? You've driven by something and
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Speaker 1: you went whoa, whoa, whoa? What was that?
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Speaker 2: That's what Alison Sutton is telling our friend Craig Melvin.
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Speaker 1: Take a listener, c At nine.
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Speaker 11: I saw her very very quickly. Her face looked I
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Speaker 11: thought her face was dirty. But based on what I
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Speaker 11: know now, I'm guessing that what I thought was dirt
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Speaker 11: on her face was the bruises. But it was it
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Speaker 11: was very, very dark. I did not notice restraints. It
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Speaker 11: just it was so dark. I barely barely saw her.
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Speaker 11: And like I said, it was a flash because that
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Speaker 11: area is so dark and it was four thirty in
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Speaker 11: the morning.
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Speaker 1: You didn't go back after that?
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Speaker 5: I did not know.
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Speaker 11: I had my fourteen year old daughter in the car
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Speaker 11: with me, and we talked about going back, but the
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Speaker 11: nine to one one operator had me feeling confident that
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Speaker 11: law enforcement would take care of the person that I saw,
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Speaker 11: and so we chose to get back on the road
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Speaker 11: and keep going.
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Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace breaking news in the case
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Speaker 2: of a California mom who faked her own kidnap, even
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Speaker 2: going so far as to brand herself, beat herself, and
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Speaker 2: starve herself to make it all look real. Then a
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Speaker 2: woman sees her wandering around on Thanksgiving morning still with
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Speaker 2: chains around her body.
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Speaker 1: Seriously, it was all a big fake.
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Speaker 2: How much money and man hours did this woman cost us?
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Speaker 2: When real people were suffering, real people being kidnapped, real
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Speaker 2: people being aggravated, assaulted, real people being raped, real women
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Speaker 2: being snatched away from their children and vice versa, and
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Speaker 2: she pulls this stunt.
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Speaker 12: Listen, we are very esthetic to report that Shery Peppini
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Speaker 12: has been located and it has been reunited with her
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Speaker 12: husband and family. On this day of Thanksgiving. I'm happy
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Speaker 12: to say that Sherry is now safe and she has.
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Speaker 9: Been treated at a area.
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Speaker 8: Hospital outside of Chessa County and for.
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Speaker 12: Dawn life threatening injuries.
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Speaker 10: At about four point.
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Speaker 12: Thirty this morning, chess Cunty Sheriff's Office was notified that
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Speaker 12: Sherry Peppini had been located.
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Speaker 3: We learned that she was released by.
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Speaker 12: Her captor on our rural road A near I five
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Speaker 12: in Yolo County. She was bound with restraints, but was
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Speaker 12: able to summon from a passing help from a passing
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Speaker 12: motorists on I five near County Road seventeen again in
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Speaker 12: about northern Yolo County.
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Speaker 2: Peppini admits it's all a big lie. I remember when
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Speaker 2: Peppini's husbands and friends raised alarms after she goes missing,
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Speaker 2: getting national attention when other victims could have used that attention. Well,
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Speaker 2: in the last hour, this woman who somehow masterminds the
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Speaker 2: ultimate kidnapping hopes. I mean, Jesse Smolett can learn a
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Speaker 2: thing from this woman.
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Speaker 1: Has walked free.
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Speaker 2: Christi Msuri joining us Emmy Award winning investigative reporter. Do
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Speaker 2: you remember everybody looking for Sherry Peppini, the grid searches,
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Speaker 2: the neighbors in fear, no woman would go for a
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Speaker 2: walk by yourself, on and on and it was all
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Speaker 2: a big lie.
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Speaker 1: Christy Musurich.
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Speaker 13: It was the face scene around the world on billboards, signs,
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Speaker 13: people were donating to go fund me sites to pay
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Speaker 13: for neighborhood searches. And now, unfortunately, people are having to
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Speaker 13: deal with the grim fact that this woman has now
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Speaker 13: been deemed a master manipulator.
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Speaker 2: I mean, whoa Take a listen to our cut eighteen.
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Speaker 2: This is Susie's CBSLA.
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Speaker 14: After years of sticking to her story that she was
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Speaker 14: abducted by two women, Sherry Peppini is reportedly ready now
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Speaker 14: to come clean and admit that she faked it all.
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Speaker 14: Cherry Peppini vanished from her reading home in twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 14: Weeks later, she was found wandering along the five Freeway,
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Speaker 14: bruised and branded. Now, at that time, she told police
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Speaker 14: two women had kidnapped and tortured her. But last month,
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Speaker 14: prosecutors charged her with making it all up. They say,
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Speaker 14: instead of being abducted, she was actually hiding out with
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Speaker 14: an ex boyfriend in Costa Mesa. And now Peppini has
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Speaker 14: reached a deal with prosecutors and will admit that she
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Speaker 14: planned the entire hoax. Her lawyer says, Peppini signed a
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Speaker 14: plea deal with federal prosecutors. She will plead guilty to
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Speaker 14: lying to a federal officer and to mail fraud.
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Speaker 1: You know what joining me, Sheriff Michael Johnson.
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Speaker 2: It was the Shasta County Sheriff's office, and you're then
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Speaker 2: jurisdiction in so many other that join together. There is
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Speaker 2: no way to count the man hours spent on finding
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Speaker 2: this spoiled brat mom of two that goes missing on
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Speaker 2: her stay at home day.
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Speaker 1: Both of her kids are in daycare. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what she's doing all day long.
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Speaker 2: She's obviously fabricating a crime in her pink jogging suit.
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Speaker 2: I wonder if she had her hair blow dry before
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Speaker 2: she took off. But long story short, to go shack
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Speaker 2: up with her ex boyfriend for weeks on end, starve herself,
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Speaker 2: beat herself, cut all her hair off.
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Speaker 1: I'm so mad I could chew anl and a half.
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Speaker 1: Sheriff doesn't tell.
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Speaker 9: Them most like a supermom to me, Does it to you?
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Speaker 1: Oh no, it doesn't, No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there are plenty of times moms feel tired.
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Speaker 2: They don't want to clean the guinea pig cage, or
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Speaker 2: cook dinner or go to work.
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Speaker 1: They're exhausted.
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Speaker 2: But hiding in your ex boyfriend's apartment for several weeks
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Speaker 2: leading up to Thanksgiving, having your entire family and abject
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Speaker 2: fear that you're dead, I mean, and what it did
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Speaker 2: to the sheriffs and the.
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Speaker 1: Local police out in a helicopter at night, set at
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Speaker 1: home with their own families, or solving.
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Speaker 2: Real crimes sheriff with real victims that are suffering.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and you hit all the points. It's frustrating to
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Speaker 9: us that, you know, at some point we created a code,
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Speaker 9: a finance code to start tracking our resources that we
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Speaker 9: had into this investigation. And it wasn't too well into
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Speaker 9: this investigation that that was done, and it got up
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Speaker 9: to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for us, just
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Speaker 9: as our agency by the time this thing concluded. And
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Speaker 9: I'm sure, we had well more than that into the
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Speaker 9: into the investigation. And that's not even counting all the
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Speaker 9: other agencies. And that is the frustration, Nasty is who
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Speaker 9: we put all these this effort into Sherry Peppini and
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Speaker 9: trying to recover her and do it Will Bratt and
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Speaker 9: chasing down false suspects and.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what if you had actually made an arrest?
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Speaker 2: She tried to blame it on what too hispanic females.
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Speaker 9: Yes, she sure did. And and you know what, in
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Speaker 9: the meantime all this is going on, we have other
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Speaker 9: legitimate cases that are not getting the attention that they should,
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Speaker 9: are being kind of pushed to the side because the
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Speaker 9: ex agency of this circumstance are so we thought.
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Speaker 2: Reminds me of Jesse Smolett, the big race faker and
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Speaker 2: his fake hate crime.
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Speaker 1: At least we knew he was alive, Okay, we didn't
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Speaker 1: have to worry that.
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Speaker 2: He was dead and that his children would be left
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Speaker 2: without a father to raise him.
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Speaker 1: I mean, here's another thing.
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Speaker 2: It's not just the money Mona K joining me private
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Speaker 2: investigator Mona K Investigations, Ode of Omaha. Mona when used
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Speaker 2: or at least me when I would work a case
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Speaker 2: in the District Attorney's office.
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Speaker 1: I worked it.
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Speaker 2: I worked it hard, out on the street till one
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Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning, up at five o'clock with
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Speaker 2: my investigators, trying to find witnesses in court at eight o'clock,
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Speaker 2: trying to get my evidence lined up so there would
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Speaker 2: not be any glitch in front of the jury, riding
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Speaker 2: out my direct and cross examinations, my closings, my openings,
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Speaker 2: getting the law to make sure my evidence got in
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Speaker 2: and to keep.
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Speaker 1: Their evidence out, anything.
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Speaker 2: I could do to further justice. There was no rest,
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Speaker 2: There were no dinners out nothing. It was proved the case,
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Speaker 2: investigate the case, and by the time you're in it
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Speaker 2: you're so emotionally attached to it that anything other than
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Speaker 2: a resolution is a personal fail. I mean, that's how
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Speaker 2: I looked at my cases. They were like my children
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Speaker 2: at the time, the attached to finding the truth.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's true. I mean, you become very invested in
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Speaker 15: the cases that you work, the people you work for,
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Speaker 15: you know, her family, the community. But you work endlessly
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Speaker 15: and tirelessly day and night trying to track down leads,
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Speaker 15: trying to find witnesses, locate people you know, walking through
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Speaker 15: the you know, the ditches the area, just looking for
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Speaker 15: any signs.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's exhausting.
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Speaker 2: Monique into you Sheriff Michael Johnson joining us, the Chessa
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Speaker 2: County sheriff, the elected sheriff, you know, sheriff. It's not
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Speaker 2: like on TV and movies or in one scene you're
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Speaker 2: covered in dirt and sweat and blood, the next one
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Speaker 2: you're like lounging in a hot tub.
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Speaker 1: It's not like that.
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Speaker 2: You go days, weeks, months working a case. I've had
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Speaker 2: cases where I had to go to crack houses with
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Speaker 2: a bunch of crack addicts in there, got a shotgun
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Speaker 2: pulled on me somebody's front porch, exhaustive hours digging through
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Speaker 2: glass shards and and syringes to try to find a
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Speaker 2: projectile from a shotgun.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even tell.
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Speaker 2: You what criminal investigators, lawyers, and sheriffs like yourself go.
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Speaker 1: Through to make a case and to think the whole time.
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Speaker 2: Sherry Peppeni is propped up on the sofa at her
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Speaker 2: ex boyfriend's house watching what Mary Povich.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it, what she put you.
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Speaker 2: Guys through and her own family is it's I don't
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Speaker 2: get it.
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Speaker 1: Sheriff. Why am I the only one angry here?
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Speaker 6: You're not.
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Speaker 9: I do feel I do feel sorry for her unsuspecting
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Speaker 9: family because she did do her family as well. But
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Speaker 9: when you talk about this woman had a very elaborate
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Speaker 9: reception scheme going to we been talking about the investigation.
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Speaker 9: Our investigators had to chase down so many leads and
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Speaker 9: vet out so many facts across state lines at times
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Speaker 9: because she had put all these other stories and misdirections
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Speaker 9: into place. That that's why it took so much time
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Speaker 9: in this investigation. We didn't want to falsely accuse anybody,
23:23
Speaker 9: but as we started to unfold the mistruth to this
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Speaker 9: and her deception, we had to make sure that we
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Speaker 9: vetted out every single lead. And everything you're talking about
23:34
Speaker 9: is right. It's exhausting, it's.
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Speaker 1: Hours mentally exhausting.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Do you know how many times that I would comment
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Speaker 2: and send out plays help find Sherry Papaine.
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Speaker 1: And I'd read the facts.
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Speaker 2: I still got pages and pages and pages of notes
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Speaker 2: and analysis, and so much of it did not fit
23:54
Speaker 2: together from me. For instance, the fact that her cell
23:57
Speaker 2: phone was sitting there and the era bus were neatly
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Speaker 2: folded up and just sitting on top of her phone,
24:05
Speaker 2: and I think the phone may have been found on
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Speaker 2: top of a mailbox or somewhere very It was like
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Speaker 2: thrown into the bushes. I had so many problems with
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Speaker 2: her story, but then Sheriff, I kept thinking, well, I mean,
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Speaker 2: which she goes so far to beat herself and starve herself,
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Speaker 2: break her own nose, brand herself. Didn't she brand herself,
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Speaker 2: chop off all her hair? Was she branded?
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Speaker 1: Sheriff? Yes, she was, Oh, dear Lord in Heaven with
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Speaker 1: what It's never been told what she was branded? What
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Speaker 1: were the latters? What did it say?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a it was a religious saying, and
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Speaker 9: I don't really recall exactly.
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Speaker 1: What religious saying. Yeah, yes, oh you know.
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Speaker 2: This is straight Matthew Mangino, former District Attorney Lawrence County,
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Speaker 2: now high profile lawyer, former member of the parole Board.
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Speaker 2: Which I don't like one bit that you pu old
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Speaker 2: people and author of the executioners told me and Gino
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Speaker 2: it's straight out of like a fifth grade girl's novel,
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Speaker 2: being abducted and branded and your hair chopped off and
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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. It sounded pinky at the beginning, but
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Speaker 2: I would not come out and say it.
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Speaker 1: Because the woman.
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Speaker 2: Had a broken nose, she was starved, she had cut
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Speaker 2: off all her hair, she was covered with bruises, even branded,
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Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, the facts are off.
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Speaker 1: But would she actually brand herself?
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Speaker 2: Would she go through all that break her own nose
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Speaker 2: and that was the other side of the scale.
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Speaker 16: Well, yeah, that's extraordinary.
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you know, she went to great
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Speaker 6: measures to make this hope seem real, you know, to
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Speaker 6: physically harm herself, to brand herself that had her nose broken,
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Speaker 6: all for.
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Speaker 16: The the attention that she might get after she comes
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Speaker 16: back twenty two days later. I mean, you know, this
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Speaker 16: extravagant hoax is wrong on so many different levels. You know,
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Speaker 16: it inhibits people from money to get involved in the future.
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Speaker 16: When someone says they're missing, it's a diversion of police efforts.
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Speaker 16: You know, it's costly to the community.
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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, man Geno, I want to analyze something you
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Speaker 2: just said. A diversion of police efforts. You know, that's
26:30
Speaker 2: really like putting perfume on the pig. You know, it's
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a euphemism. Hey, Sheriff Michael Johnson,
26:36
Speaker 2: did you hear that Matthew Mangino.
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Speaker 1: Police efforts. Think about it.
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Speaker 2: How many women were being raped at that moment, how
26:46
Speaker 2: many stores or homes were being robbed or home invaded?
26:51
Speaker 2: How many missing children were being abducted at that moment.
26:56
Speaker 2: What other crimes were happening? Were people domestic violence, people
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Speaker 2: women getting beaten, children getting beaten and molested.
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Speaker 1: That's what was happening when Sherry Peppini.
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Speaker 2: Had the sheriffs up in their helicopter and doing grid
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Speaker 2: searches and putting up flyers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about that, Mangino?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 16: And I agree with you, and it goes beyond that.
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Speaker 16: I mean the fear that they created in the community,
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Speaker 16: that hey, you know this, this young woman was abducted
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Speaker 16: and no one knows where she's at, and then when
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Speaker 16: she finally returns, there's this racist element that she creates.
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Speaker 16: Two gun wielding his Spanish got her capted for three weeks.
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Speaker 2: You know, I remember when Susan Smith killed her children
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Speaker 2: and blamed the black guy.
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Speaker 1: Blame the black man. All right.
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Speaker 2: So I was sitting in court Jackie with my trial partner,
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Speaker 2: who helped me a great deal turn into a judge
27:55
Speaker 2: by the way, herman Slim and the composite of the
27:59
Speaker 2: fake kid napper of the children came out of Mike Hermann.
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Speaker 2: That looks a lot like you look at this. Oh,
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Speaker 2: I said, actually, I think you were import with me
28:07
Speaker 2: when a children where I've dug to so you know
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Speaker 2: you're safe. But what he just said, Sheriff Johnson, did
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Speaker 2: you hear that, the element of blaming the Hispanic women.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, of course. And you know what that doesn't You
28:18
Speaker 9: got a nerve? What that does a law enforcement is
28:21
Speaker 9: it gives us you know, she created this these sketches,
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Speaker 9: and so now we're contacting people and questioning people that
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Speaker 9: even resemble that falsely. You know, it's it's unfair.
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Speaker 1: He just gave me a flashback, Sheriff Johnson. You know the.
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Speaker 2: Big albums of purps mugshots. I remember sitting up at
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Speaker 2: like one o'clock in the morning, I found a witness
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Speaker 2: and just going through page after page after page, looking
28:51
Speaker 2: to see if any of these people look familiar as
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Speaker 2: the killer.
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Speaker 1: It was triple homicide on my dad. But I could
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Speaker 1: just see you putting together those two composites.
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Speaker 2: I remember them well, and showing them to this person
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Speaker 2: and that person.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's so intensive. Sheriff Johnson. I know it is,
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Speaker 1: you know, Sheriff Johnson.
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Speaker 2: I've still got you. We heard Matthew Mangino. I think
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Speaker 2: it's a pretty good guess on his part. Two say
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Speaker 2: she did it for attention. Did we ever figure out
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Speaker 2: why she did it?
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Speaker 9: You know, that's the one thing that I was waiting
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Speaker 9: for to come out in the trial.
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Speaker 12: No.
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Speaker 9: All I can tell you is that calculated, narcissistic type
29:40
Speaker 9: of behavior that she displayed through this whole thing is
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Speaker 9: all self serving right up now until the end when
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Speaker 9: she enters a plea agreement. The only reason she pled
29:51
Speaker 9: in this case is because she's trying to save herself.
29:54
Speaker 9: This for selfish reasons. Again, and they put out this
29:58
Speaker 9: statement of remorse by her, which I'm quite sure she
30:01
Speaker 9: didn't say. It was crafted, probably by her attorney. Yeah,
30:04
Speaker 9: and just don't buy any of it. So I was
30:07
Speaker 9: hoping in the trial we would get a better idea
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Speaker 9: of why she did it. But if I had to guess,
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Speaker 9: I'd just say it's that same typical selfish behavior.
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Speaker 2: Oh, the whole thing about Oh I'm bored, I'm bored
30:20
Speaker 2: being a stay at home mom. You know how many
30:23
Speaker 2: working moms that have to work. Would love to be
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Speaker 2: a stay at home mom because they're trying to be
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Speaker 2: the stay at home mom and do all the things
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Speaker 2: that mom does and work at the same time.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's.
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Speaker 10: Hard, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: Uh oh, here it comes, dra Angie Arnold. I don't
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Speaker 1: get this.
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Speaker 2: I just did it for attention. There's something else there.
30:47
Speaker 2: And don't sell he's insane because she's not.
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Speaker 1: She's crazy. She's crazy like a fox. I'm telling you that.
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Speaker 10: And she is also not a narcissist. She is a sociopath.
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Speaker 10: Is the definition of a sociopath. She knows the difference
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Speaker 10: between right and wrong, and she has no conscience because
31:09
Speaker 10: this is not the first bad thing that she's done
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Speaker 10: to her family. It has escalated and escalated and now
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Speaker 10: this and like you said, how selfish? And then how
31:20
Speaker 10: could you be thinking of anyone? She's not thinking of anyone.
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Speaker 10: And by the way, typically sociopaths and narcissist are not
31:29
Speaker 10: really capable of love. So she's got this family you
31:33
Speaker 10: know that she can portray and of course she looks
31:37
Speaker 10: like the best mom in the world because she's not.
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Speaker 10: Her entire life is okay.
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Speaker 1: You do know that just didn't make any sense. At all.
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Speaker 2: She looks like the best mim in the world because
31:48
Speaker 2: she's not okay, but that like you, But I know
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Speaker 2: that didn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Greasee.
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Speaker 2: Cherry Peppini walks out of jail. What will be her
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Speaker 2: next stunt? Don't think this is over. I mean, when
32:19
Speaker 2: you don't know a horse, look at it's track record,
32:22
Speaker 2: and boy does she have a track record. All kinds
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Speaker 2: of family problems way back when, dating back till before
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Speaker 2: she was married. And this porn guy falls for Chery
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Speaker 2: Peppinie's line of crap, marries her, they have children, and
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Speaker 2: now this well in the last hour, Sherry Peppinie walks free.
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Speaker 1: But how did this whole thing actually happen? Sheriff, do
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Speaker 1: you remember? And you don't have to or Christy jump
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Speaker 1: in if you know this.
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Speaker 2: There have been a lot of issues with her before this,
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Speaker 2: in that she had kicked in her family home, like
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Speaker 2: her our original family, like mom and dad family or
33:04
Speaker 2: thank to burglary, there have been some something in her
33:08
Speaker 2: background that's it's like a waving a big wig flag
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Speaker 2: in front of a bull. I mean, you can't help
33:15
Speaker 2: but notice that what was it she had done.
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Speaker 1: In the past, Sheriff Johnson.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't recall.
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Speaker 1: That one, so I recall it.
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Speaker 9: Hey, I do.
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Speaker 13: I hate Nancy rolling back from this A sheriff rolling
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Speaker 13: back from this case. She scams an ex boyfriend, telling
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Speaker 13: him that her her husband is beating her and her
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Speaker 13: family is not helping her. And she weaves this narrative
33:39
Speaker 13: for almost a year before she disappears. That's why he
33:43
Speaker 13: allows her to hold up in his apartment.
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Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of the drama, the story she came up with,
33:50
Speaker 2: take a listen to our cut eighteen sissy Sue CBSLA.
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Speaker 14: After years of sticking to her story that she was
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Speaker 14: abducted by two women, Sherry Peppini is importedly ready now
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Speaker 14: to come clean and admit that she faked it all.
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Speaker 14: Cherry Peppini vanished from her reading home in twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 14: Weeks later, she was found wandering along the five Freeway,
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Speaker 14: bruised and branded.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 14: At that time, she told police two women had kidnapped
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Speaker 14: and tortured her, but last month, prosecutors charged her with
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Speaker 14: making it all up. They say, instead of being abducted,
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Speaker 14: she was actually hiding out with an ex boyfriend in
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Speaker 14: Costa Mesa and now Peppini has reached a deal with
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Speaker 14: prosecutors and will admit that she planned the entire hoax.
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Speaker 14: Her lawyer says Peppini signed a plea deal with federal
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Speaker 14: prosecutors today she will plead guilty to lying to a
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Speaker 14: federal officer and to mail fraud.
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Speaker 1: You know, what if you'd made an arrasre Sheriff Johnson.
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Speaker 2: What if you actually found a Hispanic woman, or, as
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Speaker 2: I believe she said, two Mexican women. What if you
34:54
Speaker 2: actually found somebody that matched that sketch to the point
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Speaker 2: that you arrested them based on what Sherry Peppini.
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Speaker 9: Said, Well, you know what had happened then did I'd
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Speaker 9: be in a lawsuit for a false arrest, A.
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Speaker 2: Big fat lawsuit too, I found at sheriff listen to this.
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Speaker 2: When she was eighteen, her sister accused her of kicking
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Speaker 2: in the back.
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Speaker 1: Door of the family schaste Lake home.
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Speaker 2: The same day, her parents, Richard and Loretta, called police
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Speaker 2: to document the incident as vandalism and claimed she had
35:22
Speaker 2: taken off to somewhere in Redding. When she was twenty one,
35:26
Speaker 2: her parents made another call to the cop, saying she
35:28
Speaker 2: stole money from the father's bank account. Then the mother
35:33
Speaker 2: reported Sherry was harming herself and blaming her injuries on
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Speaker 2: her the mother, and the mother was afraid that she,
35:41
Speaker 2: the mother, would be getting dragged into defects Department Family
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Speaker 2: Children's Services, So she called herself and went, hey, my
35:48
Speaker 2: daughter is hurting herself.
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Speaker 1: And blaming me.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Sheriff Michael Johnson, when you don't know a horse,
35:55
Speaker 2: look at her track record.
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Speaker 9: Yes, indeed, and all that was taken into iteration. And
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Speaker 9: as the things started to unfold, and you know what
36:03
Speaker 9: another hard part of this was nacy is as we
36:07
Speaker 9: started to unfold this lies that are being told by her,
36:11
Speaker 9: we had to lay silent while we took you know,
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Speaker 9: some we took some criticism from the media, the family
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Speaker 9: and everybody else, and we were knowing that this was
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Speaker 9: a lie, and but we had.
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Speaker 1: To keep all I hope it wasn't may.
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Speaker 9: Quiet until we all the facts.
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Speaker 2: Now, I mean at the beginning, Sheriff, I find it
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Speaker 2: hard to believe I would have criticized you because.
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Speaker 16: I didn't see you at the beginning.
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Speaker 2: I know, but I always assume it's a Sheriff Johnson
36:39
Speaker 2: because at the beginning her story stumped the whole thing something.
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Speaker 2: It just wasn't right, the whole thing. And we thought,
36:47
Speaker 2: and then showing up on Thanksgiving Day.
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Speaker 1: What now?
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Speaker 9: I said, yeah, and there was there was little uh,
36:54
Speaker 9: and you hit on a couple of them some of
36:56
Speaker 9: the evidence. At the front of the investigation. We were
36:59
Speaker 9: scratched in her head and not thinking thing right as well.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, what are you gonna do?
37:04
Speaker 2: Bad mouth a victim who's had her nose broken and
37:07
Speaker 2: lost all that weight, chopped her hair off and branded herself.
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Speaker 1: I mean, who would have thought? Then you've got the ex.
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Speaker 2: Boyfriend dragged into the whole thing. Hey, another thing, Sheriff Johnson,
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Speaker 2: I agree with you. Her her statement says, you know,
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Speaker 2: she didn't write this. I'm deeply ashamed from my behavior
37:23
Speaker 2: and so sorry for the pain. I cause I don't
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Speaker 2: believe that for one minute. I don't think she's sorry
37:29
Speaker 2: she did it. She's sorry she got caught, Sheriff.
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Speaker 9: Yep, that's exactly right. That's what she's sorry about. She's
37:35
Speaker 9: sorry that she got caught.
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Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not sorry you did it, but I
37:39
Speaker 2: sure don't want to go to hell for it. Okay,
37:41
Speaker 2: So Christy, Missourich, explain to me what her sentence is.
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Speaker 1: She pleads guilty. What's her sentence.
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Speaker 13: She'll be sentenced this summer. But in signing up.
37:52
Speaker 2: This, I thought she already said, Oh wait, I see
37:54
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct.
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Speaker 13: It's thousand dollars in restitution that's mandated.
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Speaker 2: Yes, But what I'm saying is the thirty thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: she stole from a victim's compensation fund to pay off
38:09
Speaker 2: her credit cards.
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Speaker 1: What lovely, But tell me that.
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Speaker 2: She had thirty thousand dollars a credit card debt and
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Speaker 2: then paid it for the victims compensation fund.
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Speaker 13: Yes, and go fund be sites. Also that family and
38:22
Speaker 13: friends had set up so when she returned back home,
38:26
Speaker 13: she had a payday. And again her story got so insane.
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Speaker 13: Her memory was hazy because her head was covered by
38:36
Speaker 13: a pillowcase. But she heard mariachi music playing. But maybe
38:40
Speaker 13: that didn't happen because she might have been hit by
38:42
Speaker 13: a stun gun.
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Speaker 1: Did you just say mariachi music?
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Speaker 13: I absolutely did.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Monique, probably an investigator with mony Qaue Investigations. Omaha,
38:52
Speaker 2: the not just stereotypes, but the harmful and hateful stereotypes.
38:59
Speaker 2: This one is conjuring up right now, I mean again,
39:02
Speaker 2: it makes me think of Jesse Smilette. They star an
39:05
Speaker 2: empire who conjures up hatred for Black Americans, hatred for
39:12
Speaker 2: gay people, and then claims he was attacked with bleach
39:16
Speaker 2: to make his skin white and put a noose around
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Speaker 2: his neck. Some of the most hateful things, just straight
39:24
Speaker 2: out of hell that you could say. And now you've
39:27
Speaker 2: got this woman claiming to quote Mexican women abduct her,
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Speaker 2: beat her, torture her, and play mariachi music.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right, I read that.
39:41
Speaker 9: She.
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Speaker 15: I believe she said that she had to listen to
39:44
Speaker 15: horrible mariachi or Hispanic music while she was being you know,
39:49
Speaker 15: kidnapped and tortured in a closet. That was part of
39:53
Speaker 15: the torture. Was listening to that type of music.
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Speaker 2: Well, not everyone would think that that was torture. Take
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Speaker 2: a listener. Cut twenty th three. This is Lila Lusiano
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Speaker 2: at CBS.
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Speaker 12: Cherry described her assailants as two Hispanic female adults.
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Speaker 17: According to the FBI. She accused the women of brutally
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Speaker 17: torturing her. The hunt was on and new fears settled
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Speaker 17: in Rudding, where Ladinos were less than ten percent of
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Speaker 17: the population. A lot of people would tell me, you know,
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Speaker 17: and they had to be standing, and they had to
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Speaker 17: be They said, well, that doesn't give them a good
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Speaker 17: name either.
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Speaker 1: But so there was shame in the community.
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Speaker 18: I guess she specifically picked out a gender and a
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Speaker 18: race to name as the suspect. So any Hispanic woman
40:35
Speaker 18: at that time, I'm sure it's getting a eyebrow raised
40:37
Speaker 18: and looking in there wondering, oh, whether she could be
40:40
Speaker 18: connected or one of the suspects.
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Speaker 17: So people were being questioned and stopped and asked questions
40:44
Speaker 17: by law enforcement.
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Speaker 15: Yes, they were afraid to go out together in one
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Speaker 15: car or a van.
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Speaker 1: To women, he'd be suspicious, Yeah, to be suspicious, or
40:52
Speaker 1: to be stereotyped, to be insulted and take a listener
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Speaker 1: cut twenty Kelly Hartungu.
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Speaker 19: ABC Sherry Peppini says she's ashamed of her behavior and
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Speaker 19: sorry for the pain she caused. Just as she gets
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Speaker 19: ready to plead guilty in court. So the agencies who
41:05
Speaker 19: spent more than five years uncovering her lies, they feel
41:08
Speaker 19: some relief and closure, but also frustration because taking this
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Speaker 19: plea deal means she'll likely spend months, not years, in jail.
41:16
Speaker 19: Sherry Pepinie back in federal court to waive indictment, opening
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Speaker 19: the door to plead guilty in her own kidnapping hopes.
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Speaker 20: She had no other choice because she's caught and she
41:26
Speaker 20: knows as if this thing comes to actually goes to
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Speaker 20: trial and we start parading in the witnesses and all
41:32
Speaker 20: the evidence, so we've got she's got no where to go.
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Speaker 20: I'm very confident we would have got a conviction if
41:37
Speaker 20: that went to trial.
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Speaker 21: Facing trial for thirty five felony charges and the possibility
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Speaker 21: of as many as twenty five years in jail, the
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Speaker 21: mother of two, accepting a plea deal, her recommended sentence
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Speaker 21: reduced to no more than fourteen months. Through tears in
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Speaker 21: the court room, Peppini dabbing her eyes with a tissue,
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Speaker 21: her attorney consoling her as she nervously answered the judges
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Speaker 21: questions to ensure she understands what happens now, dabbing.
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Speaker 2: Her eyes in the courtroom, people are consoling her. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Sheriff Johnson's the one that needs to be consoled. And
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Speaker 2: everybody that's spent their time, blood, sweat and tears trying
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Speaker 2: to find Sherry Peppini. Now she's like dabbing her eyes
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Speaker 2: in the court. You know what, just stop, Peppinie. You've
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Speaker 2: done enough, Angie Arnold, for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 1: Is is this Shery Peppenie's world and we're just living
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Speaker 1: in it? Is it all about her?
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Speaker 10: Well, she thinks it is, and she's creating this world
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Speaker 10: that she wants to live in. She feeds off of
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Speaker 10: this chaos, and she creates more and more chaos to
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Speaker 10: keep us all wondering, like we all are on this
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Speaker 10: show right every I'm wondering. This is terrible. This is
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Speaker 10: a terrible thought. I'm gonna share with you.
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Speaker 1: Oh boy, go ahead, don't hold back now.
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Speaker 10: I'm wondering how much fun her and her boyfriend were
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Speaker 10: having shaving her head, giving her bruises. I mean, I wonder,
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Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, we're all going, oh my god, this
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Speaker 10: poor woman, her beautiful blonde hair was shaved and everything
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Speaker 10: it was probab. They were probably enjoying every minute of it.
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Speaker 10: They were getting some sort of odd satisfaction out of.
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Speaker 15: Doing this to her.
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Speaker 10: On top of everything else.
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Speaker 2: In the last days the Ultimate Hoaster kidnap Mom, Sherry
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Speaker 2: Peppini walks free.
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Speaker 1: There was no kidnap. She faked the whole thing, and
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Speaker 1: I'm still to this day not entirely sure why she
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Speaker 1: did it.
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Speaker 2: Then she reappears three weeks later on Thanksgiving, wearing a
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Speaker 2: chain around her waist and arm, claiming to Hispanic women
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Speaker 2: kidnapped her at gunpoint. That's right, blame the Hispanic women.
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Speaker 2: Her life all fell apart after investigator found her DNA
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Speaker 2: on a piece of clothing that led back to her
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Speaker 2: ex boyfriend, who dropped her off there in Woodlam when
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Speaker 2: she decided to reappear on Thanksgiving, I bet that some
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving meal Sherry peppini. Let me tell you it ain't
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Speaker 2: over yet. Goodbye friends,