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The Auto-Draft is here, SNL star assaults boy | HBR News 548 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honeybadger Radio. I hope you
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  Speaker 1: by it. I'm your host, Brian. Yeah, please laugh at it.
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  Speaker 1: Laugh with me, everybody. I'm your host, Brian. I'm joined by,
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  Speaker 1: as always, my lovely co hosts, doctor Randrakam and Hannah Wallen.
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  Speaker 1: So on this week's show, we are going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about the recent news regarding automatic registration for the Draft.
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  Speaker 1: An SNL cast member tells a really funny story, I
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  Speaker 1: promise it's funny where she pants a six year old
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  Speaker 1: boy abolishing prisons and more so, stick around, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a good time and be sure to join us
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  Speaker 1: afterwards for the patron only show.
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  Speaker 2: So I have some rage bait here.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be looking at this article from the Times, where, well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I can only describe her as a former
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  Speaker 1: MRA or a former supporter.
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  Speaker 2: Of men's issues.
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  Speaker 1: Laurence Southern is abandoning the alt right, whatever that means
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  Speaker 1: and is now. Basically, she was a part of this
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  Speaker 1: piece called I helped build the Manisphere, then it destroyed me, So.
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  Speaker 3: Bear in mind this this is the Daily Mail, and
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  Speaker 3: the editor is in charge of the Times, the title
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  Speaker 3: of the piece and the subtitle of the piece, and
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  Speaker 3: and and Lauren did address this in a tweet, which
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  Speaker 3: which I opened up and then tried to read but
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  Speaker 3: it was fucking too long, didn't read. And she was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: do bear in mind. I'm being interviewed by the legacy
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  Speaker 3: media and they're going to twist this in any way
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  Speaker 3: they can. And obviously they're going to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: the man is very as awful. I My life was
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  Speaker 3: destroyed by the manispect. It's not necessarily what Lawrence said,
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  Speaker 3: but it's it's what the Daily Mail, so that the
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  Speaker 3: Times went with. It's it's fucking legacy media. I see, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there there is that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look what they Look what they did to us.
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  Speaker 4: They they've twisted everybody else's words, but mine. The only
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  Speaker 4: thing they could do with mine was only present like
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  Speaker 4: five of them, as if they were the entire article.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, they really they really didn't know what else
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  Speaker 4: to do. I don't know how to take that exactly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but I guess the easier it is to twist your words,
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  Speaker 4: the more they will feature you, and so I get
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  Speaker 4: to remain invisible where I could do the most damage.
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  Speaker 3: I I I really don't want to fall out with
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  Speaker 3: Lawrence Evan because I've met her in real life, albeit
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  Speaker 3: like fucking eleven years ago, and she did seem like
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  Speaker 3: a real person, and so I I don't want to.
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  Speaker 3: I don't wanna, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I understand, and I'm not looking to like create
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  Speaker 1: any dusktops or anything.
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  Speaker 2: But I do want to.
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  Speaker 1: Say, see what because I haven't read this yet, so
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  Speaker 1: I do want to see what's in this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. It does seem like she's exacting her
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  Speaker 3: exit plan. Yeah, it's not as bad as the Times
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  Speaker 3: is making it out like it is, but it's probably
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  Speaker 3: pretty bad anyway. Yeah, stay tuned for the after show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we will look look at this in the Patron show.
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  Speaker 1: So if you guys want to.
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  Speaker 4: Remember, she did make some allegations against Andrew Tate.
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  Speaker 1: Well not only Andrew Tate, but somebody that was a
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  Speaker 1: few people all I remember that was one of them
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  Speaker 1: was somebody that was involved with the red Pill movie,
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  Speaker 1: the Cassie Jamis.
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  Speaker 4: Oh good grief. Yeah that's see, that's that's really where
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  Speaker 4: I kinda lost. We'll see, Yeah, because I'm not. I
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  Speaker 4: hate to say it, but I don't. I don't believe her,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, it's just kind of it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: trust someone after that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well we'll see what it says. Again, Like
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I barely. I haven't talked to
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  Speaker 1: Laura in Southern since we did the meet up. I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe a little after that. So it's been so
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  Speaker 1: long that if, like, you know, I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: I could be alienated anymore than I already am. But
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what the article says, and maybe we can
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  Speaker 1: parse through the stuff that's actually her from the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that's the Times. Because of mainstream media has kind of
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  Speaker 1: mainstream media.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have any problem criticizing her because I've
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  Speaker 4: kind of felt like that ever since. I felt like
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  Speaker 4: she just basically just jumped on the me too bandwagon, right.
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel like she had anything to say that
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  Speaker 4: proved or even made it believable what she was, who
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  Speaker 4: she was accusing, and how she was accusing. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we'll see, all right, Well.
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  Speaker 1: with that said, let's get into today's stories. But first
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  Speaker 1: let's look at We got a super chat here from
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  Speaker 1: senior Stix and he gives us two dollars and says,
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  Speaker 1: is Lauren Southern still a man? I guess legally speaking.
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  Speaker 4: It depends on who you ask. If you if you
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  Speaker 4: ask feminist Twitter, yes absolutely, she's.
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  Speaker 3: A man according to the Canadian government. But yeah, the
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  Speaker 3: Canadian government, she's probably already been killed shortlisted for you know,
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  Speaker 3: death by Canadian government.
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  Speaker 1: That's not that's not death, that's healthcare.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's with that said, let's get into today's.
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  Speaker 4: If if they if you opt for suicide in Quebec,
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  Speaker 4: do they come in in a French maid costume?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, But it's like a grim reaper
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  Speaker 1: with a maid costume. It's like a mix.
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  Speaker 4: I just had had to ask.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's.
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  Speaker 1: A it's a chib QTc grim Reaper, Hawaii grim Reaper.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get into the stories. So first we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about this draft thing. So, plans are in the
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  Speaker 1: works to start automatically registering all men over the age
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  Speaker 1: of fifteen or I'm sorry, over the age of eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't freak out in the United States for selective
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  Speaker 1: service automatically. While eighteen year old US males must already
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  Speaker 1: register for selective service, a process usually carried out when
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  Speaker 1: applying for a state I D. This automatic registration would
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  Speaker 1: allegedly save the government millions.
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  Speaker 2: Of taxpayer dollars each year.
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  Speaker 1: The new law is not yet in effect and must
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  Speaker 1: be approved before implementation, but it has already made some
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  Speaker 1: weary due to the timing of this proposed law with
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  Speaker 1: the ongoing dispute in the Middle East. Also a small
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  Speaker 1: reminder that the selective service or military draft is one
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  Speaker 1: of the several still existing forms of actual sex based
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  Speaker 1: discrimination against men that, in this case is not just
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  Speaker 1: legal but codified in American law.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I just want to say.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into the topic, it's important to clarify
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  Speaker 1: some things. This is not the draft. This is registration
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  Speaker 1: for selective service.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 4: Woa hold it right there, you stop. That is not right.
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  Speaker 4: That's like saying.
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  Speaker 2: Men being drafted right now, Hannah.
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  Speaker 4: That's yes. Yes, when you sign up for selective service,
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  Speaker 4: that is the first stage of the draft.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's like saying.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just making my list. I'm not shopping.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I understand it is.
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  Speaker 4: The shopping list. It is. Yeah, but I will not
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  Speaker 4: back down on this. I will not. I will die
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  Speaker 4: on this hill. It's the only hill that my gender
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  Speaker 4: is allowed to defend. I'm defending it. Feminists like to
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  Speaker 4: say over and over again, this is not the draft.
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  Speaker 4: There is no draft. Uh, there is no draft because
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  Speaker 4: it's not been enacted yet. That is bullshit. If there
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  Speaker 4: was no draft, you wouldn't have to sign up for it.
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  Speaker 4: That is the shopping list. That is the first stage
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  Speaker 4: of shopping. That is the draft. It's just that you
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  Speaker 4: you sign up for it, because that you're lulled into
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  Speaker 4: a sense of compliance, right, You're lolled into a sense
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  Speaker 4: of security. Well, this isn't the actual draft. You're just
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  Speaker 4: you're just putting your name and for the lottery where
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  Speaker 4: we're all going to throw stones at you and you die.
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  Speaker 4: You're just walking to the building. You might not be picked. Like.
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  Speaker 4: This is not something that we should be differentiating, right,
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  Speaker 4: This is the first stage of the draft. And men
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  Speaker 4: are in the first stage of the draft from the
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  Speaker 4: time they turn eighteen years old until they age out
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  Speaker 4: of it. And I hate to be rude about this,
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  Speaker 4: but you guys have no idea how long I've been
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  Speaker 4: pissed off about this. I have a little brother, right,
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  Speaker 4: so this hit me when he got old enough and
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  Speaker 4: he went and registered to vote. And when he went
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  Speaker 4: and registered to vote, they hit him with draft registration too.
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  Speaker 4: We shouldn't even be referring to them as something different,
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  Speaker 4: selective service or the draft. It's draft registration. It's not
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  Speaker 4: just selective service, selective services, draft registration. And and until
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  Speaker 4: we make people acknowledge that by refusing the separation language
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  Speaker 4: that everybody uses, people will remain comfortable with this idea
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  Speaker 4: that boys, the minute that they turn eighteen years old
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  Speaker 4: have to sign up for a list of men who
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  Speaker 4: can be forced by the government to go die in
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  Speaker 4: a foreign country in a fox hole or a desert
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  Speaker 4: or a pile of shit or field of mines. We
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  Speaker 4: cannot separate those things. It is not something different. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'll rant about this all night if you
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  Speaker 4: let me, But do not say it's not the draft.
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  Speaker 4: It is. It's just not they're not sending draftees yet.
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  Speaker 4: They haven't done the lottery part of the draft yet.
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  Speaker 4: But every day everybody that turns eighteen has to do
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  Speaker 4: this sign up part of the draft.
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  Speaker 1: All right, But okay, so I just want to say
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  Speaker 1: I think that you're not understanding what I'm getting at.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is nothing to be concerned with.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is this is not the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that changes. This is that before they had automatic registration,
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  Speaker 1: they it was still like the law that men had
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  Speaker 1: to go register and if they didn't, they were going
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  Speaker 1: to be fines and consequences and potentially prison time. So
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  Speaker 1: what this does is it takes removes that and just
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  Speaker 1: goes straight to registering you automatically. It doesn't it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make it better, but it also isn't the same as
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  Speaker 1: like it was. It's basically the we're in this. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: It hasn't really.
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  Speaker 1: Changed things that much, is what I'm saying. The only
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  Speaker 1: difference is you don't you know, in the past, you
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  Speaker 1: could choose to try to avoid signing up, but it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna, like, you know, impact you anyway, because if
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  Speaker 1: you don't register, you can't get a driver's license, you
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  Speaker 1: can't get an ID, there's a just you know, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta pay fines, You're gonna have problems. So it was
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  Speaker 1: all this does is it basically just cuts that that
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  Speaker 1: part of the conversation out where you know, a young
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  Speaker 1: man is deciding like whether or not to register. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that it's better or worse. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: anything about that at all. I don't think it changes anything.
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  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is.
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  Speaker 4: Is that I'm not saying you are. What I am
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  Speaker 4: saying is we should never ever say this isn't a draft.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, But but even before this automatic registration, your argument
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  Speaker 1: applies anyway. Yeah, when it was mandatory that you had
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  Speaker 1: to go and register even before this, what you said
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  Speaker 1: doesn't change, right, So because either you are either you
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  Speaker 1: are being told to go register by the time you
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  Speaker 1: turn eighteen for selective service, and that's still as much
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  Speaker 1: part of the draft as it is now that they're
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  Speaker 1: automatically registering you.
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  Speaker 2: So what i'm what I'm what I'm.
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  Speaker 4: It does make it worse in one way. And there
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  Speaker 4: are some some men are willing to accept the consequences
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  Speaker 4: of of not registering, and it's that's that's their choice, right,
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  Speaker 4: they can face those consequences. Most of the consequences are
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  Speaker 4: things that you can sort of live without as long
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  Speaker 4: as you don't plan on going to university or you
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  Speaker 4: have tons of money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 4: In wartime then they can they can convict you of
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  Speaker 4: a felony and uh, then you can be imprisoned. Right that,
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  Speaker 4: then a lot of guys might change their mind about
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  Speaker 4: whether they are willing to live with the consequences of
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  Speaker 4: failing to register. But the thing is, now you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, no one fails to register, right, thing too.
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  Speaker 4: Chooses not to register, and no one forgets, right, but
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  Speaker 4: that that doesn't benefit the people signing up for the draft.
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  Speaker 4: That only benefits the government because it means they don't
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  Speaker 4: miss anybody, right.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing I was gonna say about this too,
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  Speaker 1: is that this isn't something that just suddenly happened because
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  Speaker 1: of like what's going on in the world now, Because
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  Speaker 1: I remember we covered this story years ago when it
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  Speaker 1: was basically like what was being written down and talked about.
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  Speaker 1: I know, we covered it on this channel way. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, years ago, you know, and there
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  Speaker 1: was basically something that was in the in the works,
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  Speaker 1: and we talked about it then. So this isn't like
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  Speaker 1: something that suddenly came out just because of like what's
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  Speaker 1: going on in the world right now, because it was already
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  Speaker 1: on its way in fact, And this gives me an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to bring up something that's related to this. Around
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  Speaker 1: the time that this was being discussed, Mark Angeloucci was
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  Speaker 1: in the midst of putting together a really strong ca
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  Speaker 1: in favor of abolishing the draft altogether. Before he was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let's say, uh removed by an assassin for
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  Speaker 1: some reason. It was right around the time that his
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  Speaker 1: case was coming up, and it was actually a really
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  Speaker 1: strong case.
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  Speaker 2: And so that this is how old this is.
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  Speaker 1: It just so happens that it's now getting to the
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  Speaker 1: point where it's potentially going through Now there's still it
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  Speaker 1: hasn't like completely become a thing yet, but it's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a thing. And uh yeah, So that I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to, like, you know, make some things known
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  Speaker 1: about those things. First of all, the timing. Second of all,
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  Speaker 1: what this what this actually means. And again it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if there was you know, like if
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  Speaker 1: they were gonna do automatic registration not because I think
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  Speaker 1: that if you look at what's happened in countries like Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: they're if they if the government wants the draft men,
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  Speaker 1: they're just gonna do it. And I think that they'll
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  Speaker 1: just you know, it's just a matter of like how
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  Speaker 1: much much paperwork there is in between men being registered
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  Speaker 1: by the state or them registering themselves. So yeah, but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not but again I'm not trying to say that
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  Speaker 1: this is not a problem. I'm saying that this is
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  Speaker 1: not a new problem at least when you look at
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  Speaker 1: the the we we're basically just looking at the next
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  Speaker 1: like say the next step step of the of something
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  Speaker 1: that was already there. Right.
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  Speaker 4: So one of the things that that uh sort of
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  Speaker 4: goes around all the time on on social media is
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  Speaker 4: the it's just a meme, and then there will be
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of steps in it, and it'll always start
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  Speaker 4: out with something really in mine. It's just a Kleenex, right, uh,
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  Speaker 4: and and somehow the end of the meme is you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's it's World War three, this is and then
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  Speaker 4: this is uh and Uh, it's just a meme. It's
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  Speaker 4: just a step. It's just a it's just a signature,
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  Speaker 4: it's just a list. It's just you have to do
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  Speaker 4: it when you're eighteen. It's just presented to you when
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  Speaker 4: you go to register to vote. It's just automatic. It's
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  Speaker 4: just a little step. And each one of those is
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  Speaker 4: to desensitize slightly the individual being forced and the people
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  Speaker 4: who love him seeing this happen. We're putting you on
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  Speaker 4: a list of people that can be forced under threat
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  Speaker 4: of imprisonment or death if you refuse to go fight
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  Speaker 4: in a war and kill other people, or be killed
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  Speaker 4: or maimed or mentally and physically scarred for life and
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  Speaker 4: maybe permanently disabled and then abandoned by the government after
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  Speaker 4: you've been through all that. That's what that is. It's
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  Speaker 4: not even the frog boil issue. It's incrementalism that is
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  Speaker 4: so slight over such a long period of time that
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  Speaker 4: you don't even realize you're a frog or that there's
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  Speaker 4: a pot. And it's not fair. It's stealing essentially, it's
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  Speaker 4: taking away your choice. It's lack of consent. It's just
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  Speaker 4: you being forced to agree to do something that you
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  Speaker 4: would never agree to do if they weren't making it
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  Speaker 4: illegal for you to refuse to consent. And that's that's oppression.
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  Speaker 4: That is actual oppression, and only guys are subject to that.
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  Speaker 4: Women and girls don't have to consider that unless they
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  Speaker 4: care about the men around them, and they don't very often.
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  Speaker 4: Very often they not only don't consider it, but if
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  Speaker 4: it's brought up to them, they get offended that they've
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  Speaker 4: been asked to consider it. You can't have a conversation
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  Speaker 4: on social media or even in real life about politics
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  Speaker 4: where sexism is brought up and point this out that
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  Speaker 4: only men are put on a list. Only male human
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  Speaker 4: beings are put on a list like this with the
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: possibility being held over their heads for a huge chunk
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: of their lives, that they could have this done to them,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: that they could be sent off somewhere to die in
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: a war that they're not willing to fight, and they
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: don't get the opportunity to say no. Right. You can't
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: bring that up without women acting like, oh, you're a
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: you're exaggerating, you're being melodramatic. You're making a mountain out
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: of a mole hill. It's not a molehill. It's life
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: or death, and throughout human history, death has been very gruesome.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: In this particular life or death situation, I understand that
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: maybe women don't have the same understanding and concept of
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: life or death, considering the fact that they kill three
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and ten of the babies that they conceive, But you
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: really can't get people to understand women, especially that your
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: life matters, and that your right to choose whether or
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: not to risk it is sacred and should not be infringed.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: There should be no draft. We don't need a draft.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: We don't need selective service. We don't need the government
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: to be able to force men who don't want to
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: fight to be soldiers. What we need is the ability
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: to differentiate between when the public supports a war enough
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: to get involved in it, and when the public does
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: not support a war enough to get involved in it,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: and to only involve our country when it's the right
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: thing to do, and the public supports it enough to
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: get involved in it in the numbers needed to win.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: And if those two conditions are not met, not both met,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: then it shouldn't happen.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: All right, Mike, go ahead, Yeah, I mean, part of
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: me is hoping that we can at least push the
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: argument when it comes to what we call men's rights.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: We say, what about the draft? And our opponents say
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: more of the draft isn't in force and it hasn't
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: been enacted since decades ago, right, but it can be
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: enacted at any time. As a man, you can be
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: snatched from your otherwise ordinary life in an instant and
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: sent off to die on a mountain in Pakistan, long
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: before you have enough time to vote on anything, not
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that there is even anything you can vote about. You
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: can choose between red and blue, but you can't be like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: let's have a referendum. Do you want to die in
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: a desert five thousand miles from home? If men can
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: actually vote on that, they'll be like, uh no, actually,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: absolutely not categorically not. And I'm kind of curious to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: see who the fuck even voted yes on this nonsense.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Oh it was women, how about that. But even this
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: realization isn't gonna move that over to the window. This
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: isn't gonna make a dent in the gender argument. Nobody
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: cares about the gender argument anymore. We've moved on to
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: stage two, the geopolitical argument. To what degree should we
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: care about borders and laws and shit. Men are getting
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: rushed into the slaughterhouse as always, but whatever, that's not
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: our concern. All these feminist talking points are so twenty sixteen, Bro,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: We already won that argument, and now feminism is still
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: being taught in universities and in schools, in police stations,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and in hospices, in the army, but on YouTube. We
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: won that argument in twenty sixteen. Don't worry, bar Bro, Well,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: not from where I'm sitting. From where I'm sitting, men
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: are still subject to the bias of the family courts.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Men are still subject to an elective genital mutilation, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: men are still subject to the draft. None of the
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: ship we were talking about twelve years ago has been resolved.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: It has only been buried under the next layer of
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: culture war silt. I'm sick of it. You want to
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: know how you prevent bullshit wars? Don't let your government
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: just throw men at the problem. Don't force men to
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: join the armed forces. If you let men do their
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: own thing in their own time, it's not as it's
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: not as though they'll stop defending their country.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: What on.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Quite the other hand, men are ready willing and able
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: to defend their country from the people who they can
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: see are invading it, and we can see we can't
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: ascertain who is invading it. If we simply stand by
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the borders and observe what's happening, we can station ourselves there,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: gun in hand, if permitted, and we can clear those borders.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: You don't need a government for that. Men will do it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: They don't need a soldier's wage, they don't need a
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: soldier's pension. They will do it free of charge, on
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: their own dime, just like they will defend their own property.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: So yes, if I sound like a laulbatarian, Sorry not sorry.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Government was never a prerequisite for national defense. Nations precede government,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: and men do not need to be forced into defending
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: what matters. They will live and die to defend what
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: matters to them. But I I'm just a doctor, a
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: real doctor. I am not the real Messiah. None of
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: this is divine advice.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, so I will say that. I mean,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the way I see it is the draft. I mean,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I think it should be abolished, but I don't think
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the government's going to do it. It's going to take
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of I guess, a lot of time to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: move that needle. And even if they well all I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: all I'll say is the draft is happening now. Like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in countries like Ukraine, they were drafting people. So when
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: people say the draft hasn't happened, just tell them, well,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: in Ukraine, it happened. And they even raise the age.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I think it was like to forty five or younger.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: So normally there's a limit to the age of draft,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: but they needed more men and so they threw more
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: older men at the problem. And yeah, I mean it
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: was uh. And Zelenski doesn't give a shit like it
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: was all, you know, just what needed to be done
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So they can keep doing whatever they're
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: doing in Ukraine. And uh. And I think that that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: would be the best, you know, counter argument for people
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: who say that it hasn't happened since Vietnam. You just
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: tell them, well, you have like a very America centric
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: view on what this is, and and it's probably happening
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: in other places too. It's probably happening in you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: other parts of the world. We just don't talk about
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it because they're not I guess Western enough.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I mean.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I don't even give them this somewhere else button.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I get that, but.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I mean absolutely, Like I how how often do you
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: make a shopping list in preparation for going to the
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: grocery store and then just leave it lay on the
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: table for years and years and don't go to the store.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: You know, this is this is something that even even
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: women can understand. You know, even women can understand that
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: making a list, putting people on a list of potential slaves,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: we're gonna enslave these people when the time comes, when
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: when the conditions are right to enslave these people, We're
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: going to enslave them. It would it's still wrong, sure,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: but you're right. I don't think the government's going to
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: let go of the draft anytime soon, and I don't
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: think it's going to end because women asked for it
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: because they're not going to For the most part, women
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: are not going to do jack shit about it because
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: they don't face it. And the next best thing is
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: to expand it to include women. We have women in
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: the military, Women have demanded to be able to take
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: combat jobs. Women have demanded access to every element of
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: military employment. So there's no reason why they can't be drafted.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: And if it was expanded to women, women might be
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: a little bit more careful how they voted. They might consider,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: if they don't want to go to war, that they
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: should not vote for warmongers, and that might make a difference.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: They might decide, they might maybe possibly decide that something
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: in the world is more important than their sacred right
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: to kill babies.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe all right, I got a I gotta read
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: some super childs and then we're gonna move on to
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: next story. So Meredith, g no, I'm sorry. Before that,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Before that, I got one from dark Kiki Mora for
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: ten dollars, Thank you, Dark Kiki Mora. And they say,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: do you have a response to the argument the auto
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: draft will lead to fewer people accidentally getting in trouble
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: for not filing because other people have already said that
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and my arguments against that argument don't work on morons. Also, Doc,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: did you get that thing I sent?
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: You?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Don't want to bother you, but hope you're all right. Doc,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: did you get that thing? Mike? Did you get that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: thing that you were sent?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: That might have been a joke?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Mike's muted though, Yeah, yeah, I
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: told him I read it, So.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: There we go. Well, I will say this in terms
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: of arguing with morons, nothing works as an argument against
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: morons because morons are not smart enough to understand arguments
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: that are reasonable and rational. They don't think at that level,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: all right, They think at the gut emotion, me first bubble,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: and they're never going to get it. So when you
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: argue with the moron, you're not arguing for the moron.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: You're arguing for the other people that the moron might
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: persuade by repeating talking points that she's heard from people
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: who are smarter than she is. And if you're going
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: to argue against that, then the argument is about consent.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: And you know these people have a right to consent
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: or refuse. You have a right to consent or refuse
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: to obey the law. You just face consequences if you refuse, right,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: if you refuse to obey laws against stealing, and you
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: get you get caught, you go to jail. That's that's
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: your your your consent is, okay, I don't want to
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: go to jail, so I will obey this law against stealing.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: And if there was no law, then your your consequence
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: would be that the individual you were stealing from might
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: shoot you. So you'd still face consequences even without a lot.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: But with this, there are no natural consequences you would
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: face for refusing to fight in somebody else's war. That
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: that doesn't involve protecting your country or your family or
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: anything like that. You wouldn't suffer anything from from from
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: not going to the Middle East somewhere and dying in
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: a desert. There's there's no consequence to you from that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: So it's not the same situation. You actually could get
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: away with not signing up. You actually could if you
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: just didn't mind dealing with Yeah, you can't borrow money
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: from the government to go to college. You can't borrow
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: money through the government to go to college, and a
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: few other things like that. And by the way, you
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: know sometime well you can still vote. You can still
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: vote even if you don't sign up. But if they
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: convict you of a felony and throw you in jail,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: then in some places you can't. Right, And now there
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: it's it's unusual for that to happen. It does happen
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: during wartime, and it's not something I would recommend that
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: somebody just don't sign up for the draft. But you
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: could do that, and you had that choice. If that
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: choice is taken away, that is taking away your right
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: to choose not to comply with something that you think
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: is unjust. So you cannot become a and it's not
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: conscientious objector. You could still do that too, but you
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: still have to sign up for the draft, even if
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: you want to be a conscientious objector. But uh, civil disobedience.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: You can't engage in civil disobedience in this particular instance.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: You can't do it because you're automatically your name's put
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: on the list without your consent.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: All right, I got another super chow and then I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: got a super chat. So Meredith g gives us five dollars.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Meredith, and says HBr News number five forty eight.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: We should not get comfortable with normalcy bias. Just because
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: we haven't drafted minutes of service since Vietnam. Doesn't mean
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: we don't have a draft, but we should be afraid
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: about how we implement an automatic draft because of how
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: they get that list of names.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is another question. I mean, obviously, if you're
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you know, you think of the social security system, the
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: government has that list of names already.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking in social security.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there is that the government does make mistakes though.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: You know, during during that short time that we were
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: using Medicaid, for instance, I kept getting letters where I
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: had to fill out a bunch of paperwork about whether
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: or not my daughter was pregnant, but the letters were
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: about my infant son. And is because the name that
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I gave to my kid is gender neutral, not necessarily
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: intentionally that specific. That wasn't the element of it that
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: we chose that name for, but it is. And it's
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: used more by females than by males in the time
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: frame that that was happening in. And so they thought
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: that he was a teenage girl when he was a
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: baby boy, and that does happen. There might be some
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: guys that don't get put on the list because of that,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: because of a clerical error, and I'm sure they'll find
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: some way to make it those guy's fault that they
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: didn't correct the government. And there might be some young
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: ladies that get put on the list because of that
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: same type of clerical error. And do you know how
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: hard it is to fix one of those clerical errors.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: The last time I got some sort of questionnaire about
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: my teenage daughter and her potential pregnancy with my son's
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: name as the individual they were asking about, I hadn't
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: been in the system. I hadn't been a recipient for
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: ten years. So good luck ladies who have a gender
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: neutral names that are more often used by dudes.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you for that, Meredith. And then
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: we got a super chat from Sennor Styx and he's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: gives us two dollars, thank you, senior sticks and he
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: says we do need the draft as it is a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: fail safe.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Sadly, all right.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: We don't. It's a fail safe against what think very
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: hard there, because it's a fail safe against it's not
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: a fail safe against men not being willing to defend
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: their own country, because if you attack somebody in their
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: own territory, they will defend. So it's a fail safe
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: against what It's a very serious question in my mind.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: It's a fail safe only against rich people in government
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: being able to force poor people in the population to
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: fight a war they don't support, for zero benefits to
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: the people.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, my final thought on this, and we got
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to move on because we got like four more stories,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: although they're less, I don't know, less of a big deal,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I guess than this one. It's like the big one.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: My fineral thought on this is that we shouldn't have
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: a draft. I think we should abolish it. I think
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: that Mark Angeloucci dying as he was like about to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: win that case is probably not an accident. I know
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: them a little bit. Let me, let me put my
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: tinfoil hat on a little bit. But I feel like
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that was weird timing. And on top of that, I
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: wouldn't draft women because I think they'd just get men killed,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to make things worse for men.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It's bad nothing to be on the battlefield, but I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: don't think women should be on the battlefield fighting next
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't put I put wouldn't put women and men
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: in the same units or anything like that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: But if you put them in non combat roles. They're
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: not risky as much.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: An I didn't say I wouldn't. I wouldn't put them
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: in combat roles. I just wouldn't put them with the men.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, they would be all.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Female units, and they would have would they would have
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: that they would it would not involve any men.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'm that's fine. I just think that I don't think
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: women are going to be very useful in that. I'm sorry,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that they would. They would
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: be very useful, and I think that they'll probably maybe
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: they won't cost men their lives in those individual units,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: but if they don't like accomplish their missions while the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: fucking Navy seals are out there getting shit done, then
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: they could lose the wider conflicts because the women are
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: just not as good. Meanwhile, the other side is using
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: only men and they're probably gonna be doing.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: It a lot better. So I don't I don't think that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think that drafting women to fight is I
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: can see how that would like get women to think
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: hard about whether or not they really want to vote
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: for for psychopaths to like send us to war. But
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: if it becomes a reality I think that we're gonna
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: suffer a lot more for it. I just don't think that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that women should be involved. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's you know, we could draft them
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: and make babies. I mean, we could do that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I could.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with that. There have been multiple wars where
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: women have been useful. On the other hand, historically, there
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: have also been multiple wars where boys as young as
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: seven were forced into the military. So there are different
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: there are different ways to think about this, and I've
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: heard from soldiers on both sides of this argument too,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: male soldiers on both sides of this argument, and it's
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is a matter of
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: opinion based on thinking of one type of woman and
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: not thinking of the variety of types of women and
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: capabilities that exist in women. It is something that should
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: be explored, and it is something that you're never going
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: to see. I don't think you're ever going to see
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: warmongering end, and I don't think you're ever going to
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: see a better use of the military until we get
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: to a point where women are just as much endangered
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: by psychopaths and politics as men are. Until then, women
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: will be willing to sacrifice all of the men in
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: their nation just to protect things like their abortion rights
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: and their Me Too movement, their Human Resources Department, their
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Violence Against Women Act, that gender's family violence law until
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: until women are equally subject to a level of danger
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: that their politicians are going to send them in to
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: potentially fight and die someplace in a foreign nation. We
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: aren't going to get rid of women's vote. I know
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: people are are opposed to that. So then women should
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: be subject to the draft. There is no other way
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: to do that. There's no other way to handle that.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we got to move on to the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: next story, so let us know what you guys think
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: about this one is obviously contentious issue, lots of different
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: opinions on it, and uh yeah, leave your thoughts in
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the comment section. But we're gonna move on to the
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: next story. So the rest of these are gonna be
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: a lot lighter, but that one is so and I'm
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: sorry if it's like you know, the energy is gonna
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: fall a bit. But I want to talk a little
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: bit about some of these other things because I think
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: they're kind of interesting. So Sabrina Carpenter, Uh, if you
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: guys don't know, she's very well known for doing a
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: lot of like misandrass stuff in her In her music,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: she has basically called voice men stupid or told people
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to call them stupid. She's very popular with the women,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the women's right now. She's like the new upcoming tailor
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: sport figure.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Are all of her stage hands women who Oh, she probably.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Has lots of man that make her shows possible.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter because what she's doing is basically
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it's for the audience.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: It's like an image thing.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Obviously, drive her tour bus.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's a man. I'm sure.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: But but but you know, for all of the progressive
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: because basically being like openly anti male is a progressive
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: feminist thing to do. So for her being such a
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like a inclusive and sympathetic woman. Good, that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: all about the girl power pop star Sabrina. Boys are dumb.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Carpenter faced the swift wave of online backlash and calls
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: for her cancelation after her headlining performance at Coachella twenty
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: twenty six on April tenth. Do you guys know what
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Coachella is? Apparently, it's some kind of music festival for
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the It's basically sodom and Gomora the musical No.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: My lesbian boss used to go to it when I
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: worked at the gas station. Yeah, like I could hear
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: her yelling about Coachella for two weeks before and another
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: week afterward, but I.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Never It costs like one hundred thousand dollars for tickets
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: like this is it is like the met Gala, but.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Like more demonic.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: But anyway, she was performing there and during a quieter
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: moment in her set, a fan performed a traditional zagaruta,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: which is like an Arabic like ulilation or celebratory trilling
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: sound used in Middle Eastern and North African cultures for
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: joyous occasions, or the Xena yell. You know you ever heard,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: like when Zena does her battle cry and it's like, oh, yeah,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: that's what I That's what I thought when I heard it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: So this woman did this in the audience and Carpenter paused,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: mistook it for yodeling, expressed that she didn't like it,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and when the fan explained it was part of their culture,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: she responded with comments including that's your culture, this is weird,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: hedding remarks about it feeling feeling like burning man. Another
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: sodom and Gomorrah event. A video of the exchange will
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: quickly went viral on social media, sparking accusations of cultural insensitivity, xenophobia,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and disrespect towards Arab and North African traditions. Many users
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: labeled the moment nasty and demanded accountability, while others defended
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: her as simply confused or caught off guard on a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: loud stage. She's just a woman, guys, It's okay. Carpenter
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: later issued a public apology on X, stating her reaction
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: stemmed from genuine confusion due to not seeing or clearly
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: hearing the fan, describing it as pure confusion and sarcasm
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: with no ill intent, and acknowledging that she now understands
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: what a zeg ruda is and could have handled the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: situation better. Oh my God. The incident divided fans and commentation,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: with some insisting she had been effectively canceled in certain
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: circles and others arguing the outrage was overblown. As of
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: April fourteenth, the controversy continues to spark debate, but has
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: not led to any major professional repercussions for the singer.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: So someone needs Someone needs to write a mathematical axiom
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: about this, along the lines of the mundane banality of
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: the presented story is proportional to the inconvenient magnitude of
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: the story with which we are not being presented. In
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: other words, we're being distracted. We're having the hokiest possible
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: shite dangled in front of us, so we don't talk
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: about the big thing, whatever the big thing is. You'll
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: remember howk tour girl that there was no reason for
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: that to become a meme, never mind a spontaneous ethought career,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: never mind a fuck crypto coin or should it was,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: say something dirty in a street interview. There's a shit
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: tone of that kind of footage floating around all the time,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: of women saying dirty degenerate share on the streets. But
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: one of them happened to go viral right around when
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Trump got shot. Do you all remember the series of
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: events Pepperidge Farm remembers. It's like, remember when we were
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: all living under medical martial law? Remember that? And then
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden they found some footage of a
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: black man dying from an overdose while in police custody.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Even though there's shit tones of that kind of footage
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: floating around all the time, but whatever. Now you can
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: leave your houses and a mass in your thousands, as
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: long as you're wearing a T shirt with that guy's
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: face on it or whatever. The code BLM is fine too.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: And cut to now. Right when there's some really quite
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: serious shit potentially happening, especially in the straight up homes,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: we're being presented with a short clip of a bimbo
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: acting like a bimbo, like at a pop concert, as
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: if there is as if there isn't shit tons of
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: that kind of footage floating around all the time. I'm like,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I feel like something's happening whenever there's a ridiculously banal,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: unremarkably mundane event going hyper viral for no apparent reason.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I do you know what I mean? That means there
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: is a reason, it's just not apparent. It's it's like
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: this conspiracy theory that is no coincidence, the way Bonnie
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Blue ends up in the headlines right around every time
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: there's some kind of whistle blown in Britain, shall we
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: say about things happening to British girls? Whoops? Today is
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: another organized cluster of gang rates. Oh no, anyway, look
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: at what Bonny Blue is doing right now. She's pregnant. No,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: she isn't she is? Now? Who knows? How over it?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Silly human you're afraid of the dark things, but you
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: should look at the shiny things. And I'm like, what
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: if I told you I'm afraid of the shiny things? No? Uh,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: this this is not a serious theorem. Obviously, there's so
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: much random shit going viral all the time that you
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: could that you could draw any kind of pinboard connections
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: you like. I just I defer you to my four
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: rules to apply when consuming mass media, The four questions
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: you should ask yourself before asking any others. Why are
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: these lying liars lying to me? What are they lying about?
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: What are they not telling me about this story? And
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: what stories are they not telling me about? At all?
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: You should you should always ask yourself these four questions
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: before you ask yourself anything, no matter which talking head
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: happens to be talking to you at the time, and
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: yes that includes me as one of those talking is what?
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Why am I lying to you? Because I don't know
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about? What am I lying about? My
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: power level? What am I not telling you? What power
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: level means? What stories am I not telling you about? Uh?
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: What power even? Means I hope. I hope everyone else
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: is prepared to conjure such a pretentious fleck of poetic
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: drivel upon demand. I hope my fellow humans can have
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: fun with it like I do. But if you are
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: not a human, rather you are a machine that has
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: been put in charge of humans, then I don't want
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: any facetiousness from you. Okay, I want a clear answer
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: about what you're lying about, but I'm not going to
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: get it without some serious hacking skills that would no
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: doubt get me arrested. I don't have those skills, and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: so I just yell and I drink, and I know things,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: and then I forget things, and then I yell, and
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: then I drink and I repeat, thank you for listening.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: In summary, this is bullshit. I don't know why the
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: fuck we're talking about this, you.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Want to say anything.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know who this woman is. I mean, I
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: know what the article says about who this woman is,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: all right, I don't know if I've ever heard any
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: of her music. I don't want Saturday Night Live. I
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: She's not Saturday Night Live.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: She's a singer, okay for some reason. Story Okay, Well,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: I know zip about this chick, Like she could be
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: the the well the great grand niece or whatever of
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: the late great Karen Carpenter, or a complete non relative
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: and I wouldn't know either way. Right the only thing
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: I know about her is this, this publicity stunt that
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: she got herself canceled with after cancer Culture died, and
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: people can't people being canceled doesn't actually mean anything anymore
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: when at a time when I don't know Jack shild
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: about her, I would not I have ever heard of
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: her if this had not happened and we had not
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: covered it on this show. I don't believe that anybody
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I know probably knows, like none of the people that
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: I'm friends with locally. Maybe you guys might know, But
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: like this, I kind of suspect maybe this woman just
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: wasn't getting enough press coverage and now she is.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Well Okay, I mean, I get that this isn't like
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a super big story when it comes to the what's
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: going on in the Middle East, I don't want to
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: cover anything until we know like something substantial has happened.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: For now, it seems like every little event that occurs
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: down there, everyone makes a million videos and they all
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: speculate and they all jump on this thing or that thing,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and they all have like a take, and I'm like, well,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know where this is going. I'm gonna wait
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: until we know something more like concrete happens. Maybe revisit
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: it in like another week or so, see if there's
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: been anything, like, you know, really serious, like I don't know,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: a draft for example, Like then I'll cover that.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: So I didn't like the the that.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: That is just that's not what I'm talking about.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, I know, I'm basically just I'm just speaking for
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: my part of it. So that's what that was my choice.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: But the thing is Sabrina Carpenter. You may not know
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: who she is, but she is extremely popular right now.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: She is the new Taylor Swift. So she is the current.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Pop idol that all the young women love, and she
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: is openly like her music videos you can look them
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: up online. They feature men just dying in them, like
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: it's like part of the theme. Like it's like basically,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: if you look at like a pattern of every news,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: what this chick.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: So this chick right here in the picture that you're
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: showing us, Yes, that looks like she's some drunk chick
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: at a party yelling free blow jobs for everyone. She's
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: a pop idol.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, she's a big pop idol. She does
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of big music.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: And she's no idea.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: No I know.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm saying like pretty like making let's just say,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say attacking, but like being anti
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: male is part of her brand. So she is a
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: And I said this at the beginning of the of
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the write up. I said, this is the current if
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: you look at like the music industry as a series
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: of ever escalating woke feminist performers, you know, like every
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: time they bring a new one out, she's a little
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: bit more radical than the last one.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: This is the newest version.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: She is openly selling, you know, chanting with her the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: crowd about you know, boys are dumb or something like that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: And it's all in all reason. I don't listen to
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: her music. I don't know what it sounds like. All
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I know is what is the what the theme is
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: in it?
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: The only other one that that age group is listening to.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: That's a pop idol that I really know much of
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: anything about.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and that's why, Well, that's the thing.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I sentence I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Is Billie Eilish and like she's an idiot and this
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: girl sounds like an idiot. And I've seen a little
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: bit about the Katy Perry chick that was astronaut and
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: scare scare quotes. She she seems kind of like an
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: idiot too. And they all have this looking drunk while
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: sober aesthetic, the sort of the I'm too dumb to
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: be any harm to you aesthetic, you know, uh deadly
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: do right. Just gave us five dollars and said, Sabrina
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: see is just the modern Madonna, but even more misinterest.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I hate to say it, but Madonna was probably better
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: than this girl.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah she was, That's why you said.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she didn't even look halfway. Even what's the chick
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: that played Hannah Montana Miley Cyrus. Miley Cyrus did the
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: same thing too, the I look like I'm drunk when
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sober aesthetic. And it's they're simultaneously trying to dumb
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: down girls while making them hate men and boys, and
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: the idea of relationships with men and boys being being
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: able to trust a male partner to be there for
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: them and to be the other half of their household
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: right to be the guy that runs the household, that's
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: in charge of the household. Well, they're safe at home
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: and everything. It's it's pretty obvious because this type of stuff,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: this pop music, pop music, doesn't happen organically, right. Nobody
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: becomes famous in pop music because they're good at it.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: They don't become famous because they're talent did or skilled.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: They become famous because the machine, the people who make
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: the decisions as to whose music is going to be
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: promoted and who's whose music is not. They they want
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: this person front and center to become the next pop idol.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: And they become the next pop idol because they are
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: shoved down girl's throats so much, with so much manipulative
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: press and so much makeup and so much fixing their
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: voices and everything else that can be done that that
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: girls think that it's their idea to like them, and
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: their mothers don't figure it out. Only a dad really
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: can figure out that maybe his daughter should not be
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: listening to this shit only a dad and turn around
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: and make fun of it properly, or you know, redirect.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: And since they're getting rid of dads as well, what
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: you end up with is a bunch of little girls
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: that are very easy to brainwash. Now, why is this
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: a big deal that girls are being brainwashed by pop
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: stars that are being shoved down their throats? Now, who
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: do you see getting out there and telling people how
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: to vote on MTV and whatever other music channels, all
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: over YouTube, all over social media? But these same dipshit
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: pop stars. So when we talk about women shouldn't vote,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: women shouldn't vote, and we know that that's not going
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: to change that nobody's going to listen to us, or
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: if they do listen to us, they're going to say, no,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: that's not going to change. But you have this chick,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: this free blow job party girl looking thing standing on
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: the stage becoming popular because she has been shoved down
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: girl's throats. You can bet that come election season, she's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: going to be one of the ones that are telling
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: the girls to vote for the female candidate, or the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: abortion candidate, or the protect your ability to get more
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: than half of the wealth of your household and a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: divorce candidate, the keep kids away from their father's candidate. Right,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: that's what's going to be happening. And there's going to
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: be a lot of girls out there that are going
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: to listen to her because they're stupid. She's stupid. They're stupid,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: and they're going to go and vote. This is why
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: whatman shouldn't vote.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why I picked the story because I know
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: that these celebrities, especially the female pop stars, they have tremendous,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: tremendous influence over young women, even older women. I know
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: that there are boomer women that like this stuff and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: they like the way it makes them feel. And yes,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: they have a lot of influence. So when Sabrina Carpenter
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: makes a misstep, it can potentially I don't think she's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: gonna get canceled. That's not what this is about, but
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: there is like when these things happen there it's interesting
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to look at and observe because you might see some
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: people say, well, I'm not gonna listen to her anymore,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: and maybe they will, like I don't know, like there's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: a chance they may look somewhere else for their inspiration.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it can. And it's also like
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: a thing where I'm on the outside and seeing this
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: because I don't give a shit about anyone involved. But
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: let's not kid ourselves in a thinking that people like
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: this are not famous for a reason and that they
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: don't affect people, especially women, because that's the point, right women.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: If you understand that women are more let's say susceptible
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: to propaganda, then you know that there is a reason
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: why we are surrounded by propaganda.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: And I think that it does.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: It does matter in a way, like, not in like
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: a more immediate way, but in an existential way. And
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: that's why I chose the story and I knew it was.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: It's not as big as the Draft but or the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Straight of Horror Moves, which again I don't want to
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: talk about yet because it's kind of ongoing, but these
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: cultural things, to me, I think there they matter a lot,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: and especially when you know that, like I said already,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: every new iteration of these female pop stars is more
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: misandress than the last. And I'm I'm not saying it's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: because of an organic feeling. I think it's because they're
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: ramping things up, Like how is it possible that we're
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: getting people like Sabrina Carpenter and Billie Eilish in the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: mainstream and at the same time we are getting documentaries
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: about the manisphere. I think they tried to get like
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: clavicular on like a sixty minutes thing. I didn't cover
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: that one. But but you know, there's a reason why
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: these things happened. It's not an accident, and that's why
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: So yeah, then there's another thing that's going on with
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: young women. It's been going on for a long time.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: Because the thing I'm remembering right now because of this
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: is actually from It would have been like two thousand
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: and three, two thousand and four, somewhere in there. I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: was driving to work when I was working at a
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: camera store in Lima, Limo, Ohio. And it's not there anymore,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: by the way, the camera store, not the city. I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: was turning right and this chick was turning left from
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: the right where I was. Both of us had our
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: windows down, and she is just rocking out to this
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: song as she's singing, or as she's driving, and I thought, oh,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: that looks like fun. I'm glad somebody's happy, you know.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: And then I heard the lyrics and it was the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: chorus of I don't even know the name of the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: song exactly. I think it might just be a hazard
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: to myself. It's pink, and the line that she was
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: singing was I'm a hazard to myself. Don't let me
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: get me on my own worst enemy. It's bad when
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: you annoy yourself. And I'm just like, why would you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: be celebrating that? Why would you be happy about that?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: But when I look back at it, somewhere in somewhere
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: in the mid nineties, it became intensely popular for women
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: to like what I would call train wreck anthems. Look,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: what a terrible person I am. I am an absolute
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: piece of shit. Love me or else I'll kill you.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: I'll beat you up. You can't. You can't handle me. Therefore,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: uh you you know you you want me? And it's
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: just I think when that intersects with this, you get this. Yeah,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Pink was all about partying. She wasn't. I don't remember
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: hearing her hate on men. She could have. It's possible,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: and I just missed it because I only saw little
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: bits and pieces.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: The first song was anti male.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: What was that?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Well, that's that? That one I didn't know. But it
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: is possible. Like I said, any any female singer you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: probably can find at least one song about how men
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: or men or crap. After the eighties. Usually it would
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: be Before the eighties, it was mostly like this guy
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: or that guy, this ex boyfriend or that dude that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: it was, you know, bad for me or whatever. Not
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: that there weren't always songs like that. There was one
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: Rush Limbaugh used to feature on his show. But the
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: point is that this train wreck anthem thing. I think
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Billie Eilish made her whole career on it, like from
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: what it looks like to me, like most of her
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: songs are train wreck anthems, And there seemed to be
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: quite a number of other pop thoughts that most of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: their music is train wreck anthem after train wreck anthem.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: There there don't seem to be very many popular great
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: hit songs about women being adults or just women being
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: great people, or women doing great things or great anything.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: It's all trash now And I hate sounding like, you know,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: an old fart complaining about the next generation's music. But
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: there's no there's no not even a nine to five,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: you know, not even a I feel like a woman,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: you know, not even I can do it all you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: make me feel like a natural woman. Nothing like that.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: Nothing about how great women can be. Women singing for
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: other women, sing about how terrible women can be, and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: other women love it and they revel in it like
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: it's a compliment, like it's bragging material and they identify
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: with it, and I don't get it. Yeah, I just don't.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Just don't ask popular musicians for their approach to politics.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, it got worse in the twenty
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: first century, since all pop music was dominated by pop
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: starlets like girls singing about how much they hate men.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: It's tempting to say, no, don't ask them their opinions
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: in that. But it's always been the case. I mean,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: in the fifties it was mostly pop starlets and male
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: pop starlets with bandsman, But in the seventies, eighties, and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: nineties it was bands. Like record companies realized that bands
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: who actually write their own music and sing their own lyrics,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: now that's what's in. But even when you ask them,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: they were still full of shit, Like, don't listen to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: the Beatles, man, the Beatles were full of shit. Like
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: politically speaking, they wrote some damn good tunes, but politically speaking,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: they were full of Shiit same goes with Nirvana, Good God,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: do not listen to any of their political messages, but
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: they had It's it's the same goes with any like
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: era of of of of popular musicians. We don't know
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: what the fuck we're talking about. Don't ask us. We
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: are retarded, and yes, what I say we I mean me.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, these people are high as fuck. Don't listen to them.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, but that being said, unfortunately women do. So
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: we're gonna move on to the next story. Let us
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think about this one in the comments.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: This might be like on an unduly dot long sausage.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: So all right, next up, we got this controversy. So
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: an interview with Saturday Night Live cast member Chloe Feyneman
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: has sparked widespread backlash after she casually recounted being fired
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: at age sixteen from a summer camp counselor for pantsing
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: a six year old boy camper. In the Vanity Fair video,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: filmed with several SNL colleagues playing a game about knowing
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: each other, Fineman described how the young boy repeatedly lifted
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: her shirt during during hugs, prompting her to seek revenge
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: during a hike by tricking him to look at a
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: hawk before yanking his pants down, revealing that he didn't
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: wear underwear, and exposing his genitals in front of other
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: campers and a passing school bus Her castmates reacted with
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: visible shock and discomfort, with one joking that she might
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: be on a list somewhere. So I'm gonna play the
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: clip from this really quick and I'll finish the ride up.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, Oh yeah, you guys can hear this too.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: I was fired as a camp counselor for hitting on
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: the camp is no pants a boy because he would
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: lift my shirt all the time. It's a different.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Time, like he would be like, hey, can I'm a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: hug and I'd go to hug. Then he like lift
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: my shirt like a dick, and then I was like,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get back at you.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: And so we were on a hike and I was like, hey, Ollie.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Go look over there.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: It's a hawk.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: He looked, and then I yanked his pants down.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: And then I was fired.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Why was I featured on the lead show as.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: A team They edited Okay, so Vanity Fair edited out
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: because you can find the full version. They edited out
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: the part where it was revealed that the boy wasn't
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: wearing underwear and they talked about it on this clip
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: and that all the you know, the boy was embarrassed. Obviously,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: all of his classmates or his camp mates or whatever
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: were there his fellow camp.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Mate, so the original clip.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: The original unedited clip quickly went viral on social media,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: drawing a criticism for the disturbing nature of the story
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: involving a child, with many calling it inappropriate, cringeworthy, or worse.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: In response to the uproar, Vanity Fair edited the video
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: like I just showed you guys shortly after posting it,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: removing key details such as the boy's age he was
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: six years old, the explicit mention of his little dingling
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: being out, which is exactly the wordings she used, and
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: some of the horrified reactions from her co stars. The
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: edited version still includes Feineman referring to the incident as
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: happening in a different time in Berkeley, but the changes
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: themselves have drawn additional scrutiny and accusations of damage control.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: As of mid April, the controversy continues to circulate online,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: with divided opinions on whether the anecdote reflects harmless teen
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: impulsiveness or something more concerning. And I just want to say,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: because I know everyone's going to say it already, if
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: a man had done this to a little girl, yes,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: we know, But anyway.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of torn on this one. I'm gonna skip
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: right past the what if the genders were reversed gate,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: because even if a little girl had repeatedly tried to
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: pull down the pants of a male authority figure, and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: then that male authority figure tried to teach her a
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: lesson by pulling down her pants, I'd be like, all right,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: that's not appropriate. But I don't think you're necessarily a nonce.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: It's extremely unfortunate that the question happened to be going commando,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: but you didn't know that. And even so, evidently the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: child in question understands that exposing someone's skin beneath their
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: clothes can be embarrassing, but in a non sexual way.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Kids don't know what sexual is, but they understand that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: if you remove someone's clothes and expose their skin, that's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: you know, that's that's that's naughty. It's It's one of
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: the first things we teach children after they've learned how
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: to walk. We're like, by the way, don't run around
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: naked shoving your junk in people's faces. It's well, we'll
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: let you get away with it when you're a toddler,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: but if you're still doing it when you're an adult.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: You you won't be long for this world, so cover
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: up as best you can. I mean, this is biblical
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: stuff to some extent that that was something that reportedly
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: happened in the Garden of Eden. That's what makes us
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: different from other animals. We have a concept of nudity
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: and a concept of how we carry on with this
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: shame of nudity, this desire for privacy. It's just as
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: interesting when you approach it from a Darwinian perspective, like
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: why is it that humans feel the need to have
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: sex in private even though most other animals would just
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: do it out in the open. What's the problem. Maybe
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: it's something to do with our evolution from tournament species
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: to pair bonding species. Like at some point the beta
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: males found whales to found ways to peel the women
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: away from the alpha males by offering them an alternative,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: and so the species was blessed with beta males and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: beta females who learned how to sneak away from the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: panopticon of the alpha male and like have sex in private,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: bond in private. But two hundred thousand years down the line,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Homo sapiens has invented clothes and now everyone freaks out
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: if we're not all wearing clothes all the time. And yes,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: maybe the Old Testament had a point when it told
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: us in explicit detail to hide our bodies, especially certain
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: parts of our bodies, and that's what informs our compulsion
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: to avoid depictions of naked humans, be they adult or child.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: But you know, I'm just saying don't fuck the children.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: That's not all I'm saying. I'm also saying it's okay
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: to hug the children. It's okay to kiss the children,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: like on the top of their heads, and you know,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: say I love you while you do it. But it's just,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: it's just it's definitely not okay to fuck the children.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Is it okay to pull their pants down? To teach
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: them a lesson about not pulling people's pants down, Well,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure about that one. It's it does
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: seem to be where the rubber meets the road. I
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: would go ahead and say.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Don't do it.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: As a rule of thumb, don't do it, Like how
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: men already you completely understand that you must not do that. Yeah,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: you must not pants a child. Yeah, that's I think
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: women should also be instilled with the idea that you
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: absolutely should not pants a child. But at the same time,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: I'm like, are you fucking them? Are you fucking the children?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: All right, good? Please don't fuck the children. Please don't
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: groom them. Please don't lure them into your cabin late
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: at night and then slip your way through first base
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: and second base and someone. Don't do that. If you
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: do that, you get the wood chipper. But if you're
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: just someone who doesn't understand the micromanaged rules of modern
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: sexual conduct, well, I don't know how you got put
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: in charge of children in the first place. I don't
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: think you necessary belong in prison, but I think you
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: need to be sent on a course before you can
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: return to the service. Please and thank you.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go a little bit different direction. I
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: realize everybody's gonna ask, you know, if she was a dude.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: If she was a dude, well, here's the other end
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: of it. Would she have done that to a little
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: girl or did she decide that it was no big
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: deal because she was embarrassing a little boy? And in
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: her story is questionable. Six year old little boys don't
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: usually run around lifting women's shirts. They don't think about that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: It doesn't occur to him. Now, it's possible that this
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: six year old boy was a sexually precocious child. But
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: there's another issue with that too, and XERANX actually brought
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: it up. XERANX gave us five dollars and said, could
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: it not be thought that the boy might have been
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: exposed to something he shouldn't have been considering he was six?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: Considering that he was six, and that is a very
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: pertinent question. If he had been previously exposed to something
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: that he shouldn't have been, if he had knowledge that
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: he shouldn't have at that age, then he is more
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: likely to be sexually precocious at that age. Like it's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: it's not normal for a six year old boy to
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: be thinking about exposing a woman's chest or even her belly, right,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: but it is something that happens if he's been molested,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: or if he has seen things on video that he
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: shouldn't have seen, run across his father's porn stash or
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: his mother's porn stash, which could be worse, and you know,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: or had some other kid tell him about the birds
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: and the bees, because that kid's been through something they're
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: not supposed to have gone through. And in a situation
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: where you're in charge of kids at the age of sixteen,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: when you're old enough to have been trained and have
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: some knowledge, the first thing you should do if you've
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: got a kid that's behaving in a way that a
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: kid should not behave that at that age you're not
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: accustomed to seeing in that age group of kids, you
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: go and talk to one of the adults that runs
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: the camp and say, hey, you know, this little guy
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: has thoughts and ideas that are not typical of kids
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: his age that could indicate that he has been exposed
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: to something he shouldn't have seen, and I don't know
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: how to deal with this. That's what would be the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: wise choice to make. But because young women at that
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: age are no longer expected to be near adults, but
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: are carefree and childlike themselves, she just had no problem
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: treating it as normal play and getting revenge. Richard Bierre says,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: long shot and maybe still being breastfeeds very unusual, extremely unusual,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: but it does still happen occasionally. I've heard of it
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: still happening. That in and of itself is a whole
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: other discussion, but which I don't really want to get into.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: I'll just say that there's overkill, and then there's breastfeeding
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: a child past the age of two, which goes well beyond.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: But in any case, you know, when I was a kid,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: when I was sixteen, there would have been no question
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: how responsible a sixteen year old girl was in that situation.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: You know, I was expected to know first aid when
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: I went in babies. I babysat infants when I was sixteen,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: on the side of my other job, which was photographing
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: sports for the local newspaper, high school sports for the newspaper.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: But you could put a sixteen year old in charge
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: of children in the nineteen eighties, the late nineteen eighties,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: and you know, you wouldn't have to worry that she
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: was going to do something extremely childish and stupid and
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: cause lifelong trauma to the child. You would know that
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: if the house caught on fire, she'd get the kids
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: and get out. And today, I wouldn't put a sixteen
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: year old in charge of an electric dishwasher, like I'd
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: be worried that she might burn the house down. And
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: it's pathetic, but it's the truth, and this is what
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: has happened to girls in just a couple of generations. Right,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: that's sad, and that's been going on for two hundred years.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: Imagine telling a woman two hundred years ago that a
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: sixteen year old girl didn't notice that abnormal behavior in
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: a six year old child was abnormal. She'd be shocked.
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  Speaker 4: She'd be like, well, where's that girl's maternal instinct? What's
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: wrong with her? Right? But today people would just well,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: you know, what do you expect She's only sixteen. Yeah,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: she's almost an adult. In two years she'll be voting.
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  Speaker 4: In my day, she would have had her driver's license.
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  Speaker 4: Sad to see what has happened. And this kid that
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: she did this too. I hope that he's not mentally atypical,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: if he's not one of those kids that for the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: rest of his life he's going to remember that moment
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: and beat himself up about it multiple times a day
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: every day, because some people do that and can It
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: can ricochet around in there and eventually kill you. It
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: adds up with all the other things that ricochet around
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: in there until you can't take it anymore and you
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: step in front of a bus. It's not a minor thing.
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  Speaker 4: I hope that the adults in the situation did some
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: pretty serious assessment and got that kid counseling after what
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: she did to him, because that's not a slightly embarrassing moment.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: That is public humiliation and shaming of a six year old.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well let us know what you guys
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: think about this one. In the car comments for some reason,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: the oh my chat's not showing up. Oh there it goes. Wow,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: just all came out of nowhere. I got a super
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: chat from XARANX. Thank you ZARINX. He gives us five
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: and says, could it not be thought that the boy
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: might have been exposed as something he shouldn't have been
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  Speaker 1: considering he was six?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I think that's what else?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the one. Yeah, I read that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, okay, I missed.
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  Speaker 4: That as part of what the thing is what you.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Were responding to?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: And uh. Doc Kikimora gave us five a super chow
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, a couple of minutes ago for five,
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  Speaker 1: and says, Doc, do you have thoughts on deep philosophical
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: differences between mooning someone and getting pants? Notice me, SEMPI, you.
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  Speaker 3: Sprung that on me. What if someone passes you while
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: you're mooning them. Hey, that's something to think about. While
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think about what you've asked.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Me, all right, I think just in the car with
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: my grandmother years ago, years and years ago, I must
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: have been not much older than six, and a bunch
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: of high school boys mooned us, and my grandmother had
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: me roll down my window and she leaned over into
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: the passenger seat and yelled out the window. I know
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: your mother. I think they were. They all won the
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: first prize in state right then and there on the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: street for the one hundred meter dash with their pants
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: still down. Was that's that's a different time. Yeah, But now,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: anytime anybody says anything about mooning, I think of my grandmother,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: who would never have done anything like that in her
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  Speaker 4: whole life, all.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Right, And I think that's it for that. So let
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  Speaker 1: us know what you guys think about this one of
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: the comments. I got to move on to the next story.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: We got two more to get through, and we're already.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Huh. The philosophical difference between mooning someone and
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: getting pantsed is consent. That's it all. I wanted to say.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: No, that's true, all right. So Scottish Green Party candidate
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Kate Nevins, who's standing on the Edinburgh and Lothians East
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: regional list for the upcoming Hollywood Holly Rood, Holyrood not
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Hollywood election.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's not Edinburgh, it's Edinburgh in Edinburgh, it is
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: not Lothians Lothians and and it's holy rude, oh god okay.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Edinburgh and Lothian's East regional list for the upcoming Holy
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Holy rooed election has sparked significant backlash after declaring in
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: an online video that she supports the complete abolition of
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: the prison system in Scotland. In the clip, posted on
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Instagram and later widely shared, Nevins described herself as a
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: prison abolitionist and stated I would want to see the
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: complete abolition of the prison system in Scotland, arguing that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: prisons are unsafe, violent, harmful to people's health and well being,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: particularly for women, and ineffective and ineffective at rehabilitation. She
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: expressed a desire to live in Scotland with no jails,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: calling instead for addressing the root causes of crime, such
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: as trauma and inequality through community based alternatives. Nevins later
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: doubled down on social media, writing no past tense, there
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: here still keen to live in a Scotland with no prisons.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Despite an initial party statement that appeared to soften her
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: position by describing prison as a last resort, the remark
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: have drawn sharp criticism from opponents, who have labeled the
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: view monumentally stupid and dangerous, while highlighting concerns over public
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: safety in the lead up to the May election.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what what this means is no prison for women?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: You already heard it in the proviso, especially women. It's
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: the same as the one you see in the dictionary
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: under the definition of sexism something something something, especially women. Well,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: that seems like the concept is encompassed within the definition,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: doesn't it. It's like, hey, dictionary, what does racism mean? Why?
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: It means when a specific race of people is singled out, Oh,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: but not.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: White people, especially the women.
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  Speaker 3: Well that I mean that really seems like you're not
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: paying attention to what you're saying, you know, I mean, hey, dictionary,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: what does bias mean? Bias means applied prejudice against people
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: whom this book has defined as the good people? What
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: and this is how all of it is going to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: play out. It's not going to be no prisons. It's
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be no prisons for women and no prisons for
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: brown men. It's just like it'll be no prisons for
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: women or brown men who kill people, but it'll be
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: twelve years mandatory minimum sentences on best behavior for white
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: men who say anything that might offend women or non
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: white Just like Solschnitzen wonders about how the Soviet Union
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: pardoned criminals while persecuting the law abiding. They probably couldn't
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: have predicted that in the future this would be divided
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: along the lines of racist sex. They thought they were
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: just reducing the gap between the rich and the poor,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: but they didn't understand. Sometimes the rich are rich for
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: a reason and the poor are poor for a reason. Yes,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: there are nuances to that argument, but guess what. Usually
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: men are rich for a reason and women are poor
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: for a reason. Europeans are rich for a reason and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: non Europeans are poor for a reason, and that reason.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: Believe it or not, it's not necessarily oppression. Some people
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: belong in prison, and if we truly did have equality,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: not equity, but equality, prisons would be mostly occupied by women.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: At this wont mostly women and you know, shit skins obviously,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: But I just want to remind you that The invasion
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: of ship skins came after and very possibly as a
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: result of the invasion of women. The invasion of women.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: How is that possible, Mike, Women were already here. How
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: could women possibly invade us? Yes, but men had safe spaces.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: Men had safe spaces where they could conduct expec raments
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: and design civilizations. It was going really well until quite recently,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: like the last century or though, when we stopped holding
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: the women accountable for anything they do, and then we
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: stopped holding the foreigners accountable for anything they do. I say,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: we should probably get back to that. In that order,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: it's not enough to free the white men. We must
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: imprison the white women, like the one you're looking at
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: right now. There's fucking pink as she looks. There's fucking
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: gammon flavored as she looks. It's this is this is
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: the kind of woman we need to be holding accountable,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: along with the with with with the ship skip men,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: and and and and the ship skinned women. But in
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: that order, I had a lot of a problem with
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: the ship skinned men or the ship skinned women. I
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: think they're only here because of the gamon the carmon
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: women were looking at. So yeah, fuck the Karens and
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: everything else will fall into place. The Karens caused this.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: If we can go ahead and fuck the Karens, then
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: we can easily fuck everyone else. Mark my words, Mark
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: them with an A plus. You will not regret it.
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  Speaker 4: So I will start with why I don't believe this woman.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: She does not want to get rid of the prisons.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: She'll say she wants to get rid of and it's
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: not just oh, she only wants to get rid of
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: the women. No, she doesn't want to get rid of
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: the prisons. She wants those prisons. If she wanted to
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: get rid of the prisons, she would not be talking
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: about the prisons, right, she would be talking about the
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: unity of the family. Because children who are raised in
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: a household where there is not an involved father are
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: fifty percent more likely to have trouble with the law
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: later in their lives. They are more likely to end
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: up in abusive relationships with a partner that they're in
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: conflict with, they're more likely to end up divorced, and
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: they're more likely to raise children on welfare. And raising
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: children on welfare makes those children more likely to grow
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: up to get in trouble with the law. They're more
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: likely to be if they're female single moms, which makes
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: their children more likely to grow up to get in
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: trouble with the law. So, if you wanted to start
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: reducing the prisons and just pair them down and pare
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: them down until you get to where they're as small
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: in number as you can possibly be, and still how
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: the few people in society that end up being hopeless cases.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: You would want to end the commonness of divorce. You'd
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: want to discourage couples from splitting up unless there was
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: absolutely no way that they could reconcile and learn to
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: have a cooperative, loving partnership in which they don't abuse
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: each other in some way. That is how you get
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: rid of the prisons. You get rid of the need
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: that is created by lack of fathers in the home.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: You get rid of the man deserts, You get rid
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: of the huge numbers of council houses or welfare housing
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: Section eight, depending on what country you live in. You
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: get down to a situation where most children are raised
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: in loving, two parent homes, and most children have their
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: fathers as mentors and to teach them how to be
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: responsible adults, and that reduces the behaviors that people end
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: up in prison because they did them. Right, you want
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: to be real clear on how to get rid of
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: the prisons. That has to happen, and you also have
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: to stop allowing women to lie.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: Women should not be able to get somebody put into
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: prison by saying he did something that he didn't do
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: and getting away with not being questioned, and getting away
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: with not being challenged, getting away with imposing upon him
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: this guilt for something that he never never touched, never did,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: never engaged in. You can't have a huge prison system.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: If there are almost no criminals and almost no falsely
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: accused men, you would end up with almost no prison system,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: and eventually it would become more fiscally realistic to handle
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: the remaining population a different way, the remaining population of
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: criminally impossible people will call him a different way instead
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: of having this big prison system. But you ask, you
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: ask women who say they want to get rid of
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: the prison system, all right, what are you going to
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: do to ensure that children are raised in a home
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: that their father is in so that their father con
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: parent them. They will look at you like you grew
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: a second head. They will look at you like you
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: just shoved a whole mass of sour grapes into their mouth.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: They will not look at you. They will look at
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: you like they just swallowed a bug by accident, but
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: they will not look at you and say, oh, you know,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: that's a really good idea. Nope. Instead, that's the last
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: time they'll look at you. They won't hear another thing
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: you say after that. They won't answer you, they won't
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: talk to you. They will avoid you at all costs
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: because your idea, while it would work, doesn't mesh with
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: their politics. So yeah, she doesn't want to close the
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: prison system. She just wants to look good to people
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: who are bleeding heart liberals, and that's it. If she
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: actually were to get into office, I don't think she'd
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: do jackshit.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: Ay?
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: That or she's completely like out to lunch and doesn't
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: understand like the way the world works, which could.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Also be true.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, anyway, let us know what you guys
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: think about this one.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: Let me see if there's any.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Chats chows or rants, chats chows or rants, guys. I
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: don't see anything at the moment. Let me just double
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: check though, because sometimes these things don't come through right away.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, it looks good, So I'll let us
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think about this one of the comments.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: We're gonna move on to the last story. So yeah,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: it's slightly longer than average sausage. So we got to
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Eric Swallwell. Now this was
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: like a I was like on the fence about adding this,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: But I do think that there's something to talk about
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: here because it's more than just a political move that's happened.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: And I know that's how it's being framed, but there's
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: something specific being weaponize and I think this is something
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: that is a really good fit for us. So Democratic
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Congressman Eric Swalwell, Democrat of California, announced on April thirteen,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, that he is going to resign from
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: the US House of Representatives following multiple allegations of sexual
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: misconduct and assault made by four women all around coming
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: around around the same time leading up to the primaries,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: by the way, including a former staffer who accused him
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: of raping her when she was too intoxicated to consent.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: The allegations, first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle and
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: CNN earlier in this week, also include claims of sending
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: unsolicited explicit photos and other inappropriate behavior. Swalwell has strongly
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: denied the most serious accusations, calling them false, while acknowledging
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: some mistakes in judgment according to him in his past.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: The swift downfall forced him to suspend his campaign for
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: California governor just days earlier. Bipartisan pressure mounted quick, with
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: several Democrats, including calls from Nancy Pelosi and over fifty
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: former staffers and Republicans, urging him to step down or
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: face an expulsion vote in the House. The House Ethics
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Committee launched an investigation into the claims, and Swallowell cited
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: the impending distraction to his constituents as a key reason
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: for resigning. Some people are noting the timing coincides with
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six mid term cycle and his high
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: profile gubernatorial bid, raising questions about whether political motivations amplified
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: the scrutiny, though the allegations themselves appear to be the
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: direct trigger. So and his trigger is going to his
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: resignation will trigger a special election for his East Bay
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: District seat. And I wanted to say that in California
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: they have these like kind of a weird law where
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: if you have more than like I guess, like if
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: there's like more than so many people running for gubernatorial
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: seat in the same party, that you have to like. Essentially,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: what would have happened is is that there was a
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: pretty good chance that California was going to see a
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: change to a Republican governor. So they got rid of
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: him so that they could run that woman who I
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: should have gotten her name, but we did a story
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: on her before she was also running for governor, and
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: she was basically known for being violent with her husband,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: and she was very aggressive with an interview word you guys,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: remember that. Yes, Porter, that's right, Porter, Yes, So Porter
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: is basically going to be the one taking his spot.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: They wanted her instead because I guess they couldn't run
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: both of them otherwise they'd end up getting a Republican
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: in there. And so it's it's a political tactic that's
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: being employed to get this guy out of the way,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: which I assume he knows about. So he's getting something
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: out of it in exchange for stepping aside, like getting
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: stepping down and resigning. And the reason why I picked
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: this story is not because I I It's not because
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: I like Eric Swalwell, although I believe that leveling allegations
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: like this without evidence, because obviously these things came out
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: of nowhere, is bullshit. And I would defend him and
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: his right to do process like I would anybody else,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: regardless of what I think about them. And that's sort
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: of like, I think, that's like a no brainer. But
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: I'm pointing out that this is how you can use
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: female victimhood to move the pieces on the chess board
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: for political gain, and that's what I wanted to highlight
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: with this story. So I'm gonna leave it to you
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: guys to talk about.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, that's exactly what it is. And I feel
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: the need to start by being as open as possible
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: to the possibility that none of these accusations against Alex
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: Suarro are true. I even have to wonder if it's
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: true that he banged a Chinese spy. I just I've
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: heard it from so many angles, and I've never heard
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: it refuted from any other angles, So I have to
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: assume that it's true. Would the Democrats allow a Chinese
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: asset to operate as a congressman like for the right price,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: I'm going to stick my neck out and say yes,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: that does sound like the kind of thing that can happen.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: And also it appears to have never been refuted or
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: even attempted to be rebutted that he did indeed, Bang
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: a Chinese spy. And when it comes to these new
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: allegations against El can I believe them absolutely. I can
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: a politician indulging in some extramarital sleez, yes, I can
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: extend my imagination as far as such a thing, or
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: a politician committing rape. Well, at that point I'll have
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: to weigh against the vast mass of false rape accusations
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: levied against any man, even politician man. But if anyone
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: can commit it for real and get away with it, it's well,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: it's foreigners, but in close second it's politicians, leftist politicians.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: So it passes the sniff test when it comes to
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: is this believable? But the next sniff test is is
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: this supported by solid evidence? And when it comes to that,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: I have to give it to Lucas the same benefit
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: of the doubt that I would give to any other man.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: And not just because I'm blinded by my compassion for
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: men or whatever it is we do here, I'm being practic.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: There is a mechanism put in place in our society
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: to utterly destroy a man in twenty four hours or less.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: Not just in our society, but in our legal system.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: You have been accused of victimizing women. The court will
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: hear the testimonies of the plaintiff, and oh, it's over.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: There was no trial, not in the courtrooms, and why
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: would there be. It takes months, if not years, for
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: a trial to be held in the actual court rooms.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: But when it comes to the trial of public opinion,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: it takes one news cycle, not even twenty four hours,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: closer to twelve. Really, you happen to be someone who
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: blew the whistle on government corruption. Twelve hours later we
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: found some women who say you raped them. You ran
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: for governor of California at a time that is inconvenient
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: for the party. Twelve hours later, we found some women
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: who say you rape them. You exposed a network of
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: foreign invaders defrauding the Californian government for billions of dollars.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: Twelve hours later. We need a new bill to make
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: this kind of exposure illegal. Can we not just accuse
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: Nick Shirley of raping a bunch of women? No, Nick
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Shirley appears to have materialized into existence ten minutes ago,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: and he's never even spoken to a woman. He's far
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: more interested in these I mean, I mean ridiculous far
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: right white supremacist pursuits where he investigates fraud. He's probably
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: artistic or something. God damn it, what is wrong with
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: these artists? They just they refuse to get horney on
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: Maine and then kneel at the feet of women. They
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: keep like indulging in their interests, like like a covering
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: fraud or some other in cell ship. And yeah, that's
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: that's why you almost never get artists in left wing spheres.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: Despite some enormous misapprehension, the left wing relies on cluster
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: b the impulsive types, those who take risks, degenerate risks,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: because those are the kinds of people who can be
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: bribed and blackmailed and eventually served the nuclear option where
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: they do not succumb to the bribe or the blackmail.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, everyone knows what the blackmail is. This is well,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: the story of is what happens when the blackmail is
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: not appeased. Do this or we will ruin your life. Well,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: this is what the ruined life looks like. It happens
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: in the blink of an eye. Maybe did indeed have
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: a smorgas board of extramarital affairs in his closet. I'm
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: sure every politician does. The representatives, the people chosen to
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: be public faces, are not the people pulling the strings.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: Of people pulling the strings are the spin doctors behind
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: the scenes. The roles of these representatives, these so called leaders,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: have been split into two parts, the skexies and the mystics.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: Except you know, in the dark Crystal Law, the the
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: mystics were the good guys and and and the sketchies
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: were the bad guys. Over Here in reality, there are
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: no good guys in that schism. It's the it's the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: spin doctors, the evil bastards in the background, puppeteering the representatives,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: the blank canvases in the limelight. But the point is,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: the reason our system of government is so micromanaged is
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: because this weaponized accusation machine was put in place specifically
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: against men. I mean, it only works against men. I
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: mean when Christinoan was put in charge of Ice, everyone
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: was like, what do we do? She killed a dog,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: she branded one of those unsightly firearms that was allowed,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: and she brutally murdered a puppy. That does appear to
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: be the maximum when it comes to the nuclear option
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: that can be leveled against a female leader. Like you've
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: killed three of your children on a hospital bed. No, No,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: that doesn't appear to matter.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: What.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: You've married three times and drained all three of those
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: families of their income. Yes, I have. That's perfectly acceptable.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: Don't you know you've raped several men? You expect to
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: be a congresswoman when you've raped several men. Yes, they
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: were asking for it, your owner, and they'll probably get
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: away with it. See what I mean. You can't do
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: that to a female politician, they have immunity. But a
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: male politician is I mean the better off pretending to
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: be gay then they than they are to admit, like
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: Lindsey Graham pretending to be gay, than they are to
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: admit to ever having had sex with a woman, because
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: because that's the fucking curse witch, you know what etique
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: is probably gay. I'm just I'm just gonna say that.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna voice it into the ether, and I'm not
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: even gonna say allegedly, and I'll see if I get sued.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: I probably won't, not, just because no one listens to
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: this show, but because no one listens to al anymore.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the underground, ALC. I won't mock you for
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: being here, after all, I live here, but I can
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: confirm that we're not going to give much of a
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: shit about you. I hope you're okay with that. The
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: toilets are over there, in the same place we eat.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: There. So this guy didn't get taken down when he
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: was accused of consorting with a Chinese spy and being
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: a security risk. That didn't. That didn't end his political career.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: The fact that he was an absolute, total, insufferable dipshit
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: did not end his political career. The fact that he
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: was basically publicly retarded end his political career. The fact
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: that he's from the party that has destroyed the great
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: state of California. That hasn't made him unlikely to get elected,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: and it hasn't made him unlikely enough that the Democrats
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: think that they could run the party's favorite gender against
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: him and win. Right, but some chicks saying that she
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: had sexual them well drunk and regrets it and therefore
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: is rape years and years and years ago, when she
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: no longer can prove that it actually happened, and therefore
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: he cannot prove that it did not. That ends his
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: political career. I just want to remind you guys that
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: women have no power and no influence per feminism. They
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: say say that all the time. Women no influence, just
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 4: need a little bit more power, just need a little
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: bit more influence before u before they get everything they
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: want right, because nobody listens. Nobody listens when a woman
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: makes a rape allegation. According to feminists, this, this is
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: not happening. This man is not resigning. He hasn't been
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: forced to resign because nobody believes rape victims. When a
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: woman makes woman makes a rape allegation, it is automatically
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: assumed that she's lying. Feminists tell you that all the time.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: And therefore I expect to see mister swawell, mister swea
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: old head on the ballot. Well, I won't be in California,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: so I can't see that, but you know what I mean. Obviously,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: this can't be happening. It's not possible because when a
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: woman claims that she was victimized, people assume that she
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: was asking for it, and therefore they don't care. They
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 4: certainly wouldn't make the teflon coded spy lover resigned because
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: a woman has said, well, I can't prove it, but
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Because women have no power and no influence,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: nobody listens to them, and nobody cares if they make
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: an allegation. And this is living proof. You can see
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: that since he's still running for office, and he has
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: not resigned, and the House Ethics Committee has not launched
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: an investigation, none of this stuff is actually happening. It's
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: quite obvious that women are still oppressed, terribly terribly oppressed.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 4: They can't even make up a story about a guy
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 4: having done something years and years ago that can't be
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: proven true or false and get him canceled. Such a shame.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: It's really too bad. I mean, how are we supposed
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: to survive in a world where we can't do that?
• 1:56:37
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  Speaker 5: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 5: deal with, especially if you have, like especially if you
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 5: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 5: On top of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked.