Latest / Brian Thomas / AFP - Ohio Legislative Scorecard
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Seven thirty here fifty by KCD Talk Stations. It's that
- 0:03Speaker 1: time of week we can hear from Americans for Prosperity.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill, you can find well today Buckeye Blueprint dot
- 0:09Speaker 1: Com are going to get an analysis of halfway through
- 0:11Speaker 1: the mid the legislative score session for the year Buckeye
- 0:15Speaker 1: Blueprint agenda items. How far have our elected officials and
- 0:18Speaker 1: columb has gone to achieve those objectives. Well, we need
- 0:21Speaker 1: a scorecard for that, and thankfully Americans for Prosperity has that.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Donovan Neil, welcome back to the morning show. My friend's
- 0:26Speaker 1: always great hearing from you, Brian.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Always a good beginning to the middle of the week
- 0:31Speaker 2: for me. I appreciate that.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I love what you're doing, and the point being is
- 0:36Speaker 1: engaging people and making it easy for my listeners and
- 0:38Speaker 1: other folks in the state about how to try and
- 0:39Speaker 1: improve our economic conditions among other things here but by
- 0:43Speaker 1: helping folks achieve the objectives to little steps, maybe they
- 0:46Speaker 1: can engage a little bit a whole lot. But you
- 0:48Speaker 1: agree the skids to do that. And if you want
- 0:51Speaker 1: to see what the agenda items are that Buckeye that
- 0:53Speaker 1: Americans for prosperity is focusing on go to Buckeye blueprint
- 0:57Speaker 1: dot com, and the statistic are still there from twenty
- 1:01Speaker 1: twenty three and not doing real well. We're kind of
- 1:04Speaker 1: in the middle of the road, at least in so
- 1:05Speaker 1: far as economic freedom, the education opportunities, energy abundance among
- 1:10Speaker 1: the topics that you're pushing. So you do a midway
- 1:13Speaker 1: analysis and you're going to ultimately have a complete scorecard.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I guess that rolls out of the end of the
- 1:17Speaker 1: legislative session. You can rank members specifically and give them
- 1:20Speaker 1: letter grades.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Yeah, this is our This is actually our second scorecard.
- 1:25Speaker 3: We released our first one at the end of the
- 1:28Speaker 3: last General Assembly. The legislature gets together right every two
- 1:31Speaker 3: years or over duration of two years, and they do
- 1:35Speaker 3: a lot of voting. They introduce a lot of bills.
- 1:37Speaker 3: As a limited government conservative, I don't like that. Most
- 1:41Speaker 3: of us shouldn't like that the politicians are in Columbus
- 1:44Speaker 3: passing bills, passing laws. But some of them, Brian, are good,
- 1:47Speaker 3: and I would actually learned. I think they're going to
- 1:50Speaker 3: they're up over I think seven hundred. I might be mistaken,
- 1:53Speaker 3: but between the House and the Senate, a certainly well
- 1:55Speaker 3: over seven hundred pieces of introduced legislation. A lot of
- 2:00Speaker 3: that doesn't a lot of that doesn't go anywhere, but
- 2:04Speaker 3: you know, we work on some really key pieces of
- 2:06Speaker 3: legislation that our activists, our supporters are focused in on.
- 2:09Speaker 3: And so this scorecard that we've released, this mid session
- 2:13Speaker 3: scorecard sort of provides folks an opportunity to assess the
- 2:17Speaker 3: lay of the land halfway through the legislative session, so
- 2:21Speaker 3: we can figure out what's been accomplished, but then also
- 2:24Speaker 3: sort of set our sights on what else needs to
- 2:26Speaker 3: get done if we're going to make Ohio a much
- 2:29Speaker 3: more economically prosperous state.
- 2:30Speaker 1: All right, Well, one of the items that I think
- 2:32Speaker 1: a lot of my listeners would like having done, given
- 2:34Speaker 1: that we may have about initiative on the ballot to
- 2:36Speaker 1: repeal all property taxes as a constitutional amendment, is AFP
- 2:40Speaker 1: involved in any efforts to reform property taxes in the
- 2:43Speaker 1: state of Ohio. And I had to throw a curveball
- 2:45Speaker 1: at you, if to the extent that is, but that's
- 2:47Speaker 1: a real, real concern for a lot of my listeners.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Well, one of the things we do, Brian Rice, especially
- 2:54Speaker 3: with our Buckeye Blueprint for your listeners who haven't tuned
- 2:56Speaker 3: in before or caught this segment. We go out and
- 2:59Speaker 3: you know this, This isn't a policy agenda that we
- 3:02Speaker 3: create in Washington, d C. At our national headquarters, or
- 3:05Speaker 3: you know, even in our Columbus office where we just
- 3:07Speaker 3: huddle in a room and figure.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Out what'll make a how better.
- 3:09Speaker 3: I actually go out and we do a listening tour,
- 3:11Speaker 3: and we go and meet with all of our different
- 3:13Speaker 3: grassroots communities around the state and hear from them on
- 3:16Speaker 3: the things they think it's going to take to move
- 3:19Speaker 3: Ohio to number one in the nation in property taxes.
- 3:23Speaker 3: As you can imagine, we're identified early on this session
- 3:25Speaker 3: and so long roundabout way of getting to saying yeah,
- 3:28Speaker 3: our activists, our grassroots communities told us this is something
- 3:32Speaker 3: we need to work on.
- 3:33Speaker 2: And there are actually four bills.
- 3:35Speaker 3: There's a number of additional bills, but four bills in
- 3:37Speaker 3: particular that to this point have been signed into law
- 3:40Speaker 3: to help put people back in control of the property
- 3:43Speaker 3: tax crisis that up until this point, right local elected
- 3:48Speaker 3: officials would just thumbing their nose at the taxpayer. We've
- 3:50Speaker 3: put taxpayer back in control of some of that. More
- 3:53Speaker 3: work to be done, but I think headed in the
- 3:55Speaker 3: right direction.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Well, head on the right direction. I think fear of
- 3:57Speaker 1: the unknown, that the idea that we could control our
- 4:00Speaker 1: own destiny by voting to repeal all property taxes. I
- 4:04Speaker 1: think it's got a lot of elected officials with the
- 4:06Speaker 1: deer in the headlights concerned. I mean that forces action
- 4:09Speaker 1: Donal de Dille more than threats from you know, any
- 4:12Speaker 1: organization or political activists out there. If you see the
- 4:15Speaker 1: writing on the wall, like, oh my god, that's going
- 4:17Speaker 1: to be a colossal train wreck, we better do something
- 4:19Speaker 1: ahead of time to fix the problem. Tends to work
- 4:24Speaker 1: it well.
- 4:24Speaker 3: I think what it certainly has done is it's provided
- 4:27Speaker 3: a leverage point to get action done. Now, I'll say this,
- 4:31Speaker 3: you know, in Columbus, when it comes to your you know,
- 4:34Speaker 3: your state income taxes, commercial activity tax.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Some of these other taxes. Over the years, we've moved.
- 4:40Speaker 3: From nine tax brackets down to one. We've actually got
- 4:42Speaker 3: the lowest in the Midwest, the second lowest in the nation.
- 4:45Speaker 3: But when was the last time your school board, Brian
- 4:48Speaker 3: announced that they were going to that. They've been fiscally responsible,
- 4:51Speaker 3: they've made they've made efficiencies, they're they're they're now able
- 4:55Speaker 3: to give you a tax break. They're going to cut
- 4:57Speaker 3: your taxes. Brian, When was the last time you.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Had a school board, city, council, village? When have you
- 5:02Speaker 2: heard of that ever happening?
- 5:04Speaker 1: Quote is quote from executive producer Joe Strecker. It took
- 5:07Speaker 1: him about half a second. Quote, uh, never close.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Quote. There you go. And that's the I don't mean
- 5:14Speaker 2: to laugh at it, but that's the problem because even
- 5:16Speaker 2: with this, even.
- 5:18Speaker 3: With this sort of damocles hanging over local government's head
- 5:22Speaker 3: around the state, political subdivisions around the state, there's still
- 5:25Speaker 3: some in their nose as the taxpayer, and I think
- 5:28Speaker 3: you know, it's where we got to continue to be
- 5:29Speaker 3: vigilant and continue to work to rebalance the rules of
- 5:33Speaker 3: the game in favor of the taxpayer rather than these
- 5:36Speaker 3: political fiefdoms that exist thirty nine hundred of them, by
- 5:40Speaker 3: the way, thirty nine hundred in the state of Ohio,
- 5:42Speaker 3: the sixth most in the country. That's got a change,
- 5:46Speaker 3: and that's part of our Modernizing Ohio Government pillar within.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Our blueprint Modernizing how Government one of the four pillars
- 5:52Speaker 1: we'll talk about the others with Donovan and Neil Americans
- 5:54Speaker 1: for Prosperity again if you want to see the specifics
- 5:56Speaker 1: on any of this and learn how to help out
- 5:58Speaker 1: and advance this very policy agenda. Buckeye Blueprint dot com.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Pause.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Bring Donald O'Neil back. I want to mention covers since
- 6:05Speaker 1: he because I want you to save money and have
- 6:06Speaker 1: better medical.
- 6:07Speaker 2: The talk station.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Seven fifty five KCD talk Station, Happy Wednesday, Brian Thomas
- 6:14Speaker 1: with Donald O'Neil from Americans for Prosperity. We're focusing on
- 6:16Speaker 1: the Buckeye Blueprint, which you can find online at buff
- 6:19Speaker 1: Buckeye Blueprint dot com and figure out a way to
- 6:22Speaker 1: help out. They've made it very easy to do so,
- 6:24Speaker 1: help out in terms of the upcoming legislative scorecard halfway
- 6:27Speaker 1: through the one hundred and thirty sixth General Assembly, and
- 6:31Speaker 1: the four pillars that the a Buckeye Blueprint deals with
- 6:34Speaker 1: is economic freedom, modernizing Ohio government, education, opportunity, and the
- 6:39Speaker 1: all important energy abundance. They just talked about the effort
- 6:43Speaker 1: to get towards zero percent income tax maybe within the
- 6:46Speaker 1: next decade, and there are a few states out that
- 6:48Speaker 1: have that. I guess, how do you reconcile zero percent
- 6:50Speaker 1: income tax and no property tax? We don't have to
- 6:52Speaker 1: dive into that now, Donovan, another complication, but moving over
- 6:56Speaker 1: to modernizing Ohio government, we're talking about burdensome layer a government.
- 7:00Speaker 1: We all know that there's more layers of government than
- 7:02Speaker 1: need be. We could consolidate, we could share services, and
- 7:05Speaker 1: we could limit the amount of money we spend a
- 7:07Speaker 1: run government. That sounds like a solid idea. Where are
- 7:10Speaker 1: we on that? Where's the scorecard show up? Halfway through? Donovan?
- 7:15Speaker 3: Well, part of the part of the challenge that will
- 7:20Speaker 3: the property tax crisis that we're seeing out there right
- 7:23Speaker 3: I think is a symptom, not alone in that there
- 7:26Speaker 3: are a lot of folks, think tanks and other organizations,
- 7:28Speaker 3: lawmakers who look at that and say, this is a
- 7:30Speaker 3: symptom of an underlying problem. The underlying problem is the
- 7:34Speaker 3: amount of government, especially overlapping governments. We have around the
- 7:38Speaker 3: state of Ohio, thirty nine hundred political subdivisions, as I
- 7:41Speaker 3: mentioned in the last statement or that segment.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Yeah, sixth most in the nation. We're unique in how
- 7:46Speaker 2: we do that. We love local government so much. We
- 7:49Speaker 2: have the sixth most effumit the nation, right, Brian. We
- 7:52Speaker 2: have to change that. And so there's not a lot
- 7:55Speaker 2: of active.
- 7:55Speaker 3: Legislation to address then, although actually Representative Jack Daniels from
- 7:59Speaker 3: Northeast Ohio has a bill with a handful of co
- 8:02Speaker 3: sponsors to simplify.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Municipal income tax collection.
- 8:07Speaker 3: So in Ohio you may have to file income taxes
- 8:10Speaker 3: with your city, your state, and the federal government. There's
- 8:14Speaker 3: a proposal to simplify and streamline a lot of that.
- 8:17Speaker 3: But we're building the momentum for next session. I think, honestly,
- 8:20Speaker 3: the ability to impact that is going to take a
- 8:22Speaker 3: new governor who's got a bold vision, and we're working
- 8:25Speaker 3: right now to build policy coalitions to begin to address that.
- 8:29Speaker 1: With all these political subdivisions, doesn't that require like relinquishing,
- 8:33Speaker 1: a voluntary relinquishment of control and authority in any given area.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I mean, don't you have to be willing to do this?
- 8:38Speaker 1: Or is there a legislative fix, an edict from on
- 8:41Speaker 1: high that can eliminate these overlaying or overlapping political subdivisions.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Well, you know, this isn't a new problem either. You
- 8:51Speaker 3: go back to fifth about fifteen years ago, the first
- 8:54Speaker 3: Casick administration. This you know, coming out of the two
- 8:58Speaker 3: thousand and eight economic crisis, there was a lot of
- 9:01Speaker 3: effort and there was a lot of approach to a
- 9:03Speaker 3: voluntary way of doing this, right, giving local governments the ability.
- 9:06Speaker 2: To consolidate share services.
- 9:09Speaker 3: But you know they once the economic conditions improved, they
- 9:13Speaker 3: just kind of stopped doing that. And so maybe, you know,
- 9:18Speaker 3: I think that's part of the balancing act here, right,
- 9:20Speaker 3: how much caret and how much stick is needed to
- 9:23Speaker 3: help provide relief to the taxpayers in Ohio while also
- 9:27Speaker 3: making sure our state is economically competitive in the region.
- 9:31Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, it's pivoting over to education opportunity.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Big fan of that.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I am let families determine where their children go to school.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I believe the money should follow the child. We've made
- 9:39Speaker 1: some big steps here in the state of Ohio toward that.
- 9:42Speaker 3: Toward that end, we certainly have, and I think part
- 9:46Speaker 3: of what part of what we need to be able
- 9:49Speaker 3: to go do now, I think is really look at
- 9:52Speaker 3: now that people have choice, there's some competiti there's competition
- 9:55Speaker 3: in the marketplace, buy and large across the state of Ohio.
- 9:58Speaker 2: What do we do to actually through the outcomes?
- 10:00Speaker 3: How do we especially in our public education sector, where
- 10:04Speaker 3: we're putting more money than ever before, despite what the teachers'
- 10:07Speaker 3: unions will tell you, Brian, we put more money in
- 10:10Speaker 3: education than ever before, yet we're still getting.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Horrible, horrible results, and we need.
- 10:16Speaker 3: To I think start to look, you know, well not
- 10:18Speaker 3: start to Folks are taking a look at that and
- 10:21Speaker 3: beginning to have conversations for how do you actually sort
- 10:23Speaker 3: of overcome that challenge. More money into the system doesn't
- 10:26Speaker 3: equal better outcomes. I think we need to be empowering
- 10:30Speaker 3: the front lines of education, the teachers, and ultimately it's
- 10:32Speaker 3: about the families, the parents having the tools and the
- 10:36Speaker 3: resource to the knowledge that if their kid's not succeeding
- 10:39Speaker 3: in school, a knowing they have options through programs like
- 10:43Speaker 3: the Edge Choice Voucher scholarship, to take their kid to
- 10:45Speaker 3: a school that's going to meet that child's unique learning needs.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Unique and they are truly unique. You know, some kids,
- 10:52Speaker 1: you know, flourish in a different form of education environment.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Why would you want to deprive children of the ability
- 10:57Speaker 1: to actually learn something. Let's not take children out of
- 11:00Speaker 1: class to engage in protests. Let's stick with reading, writing,
- 11:03Speaker 1: and arithmetic. If I may be so bold as to interject,
- 11:06Speaker 1: and then here's the key, And this is one of
- 11:08Speaker 1: the reasons I am really, really a fan of vag
- 11:10Speaker 1: Ramaswamy with his energy abundance strategy. You know, that's an
- 11:14Speaker 1: open for business sign. If Ohio had abundant, reliable energy
- 11:19Speaker 1: of all forms, including nuclear, I would argue that's an
- 11:22Speaker 1: open for business sign in the state of Ohio. Look,
- 11:24Speaker 1: your power isn't going to go out. And oh, parenthetically,
- 11:27Speaker 1: it's also affordable, oh, one hundred percent.
- 11:30Speaker 3: And you know, from manufacturing to small business to rape pay,
- 11:35Speaker 3: you know, lowly rate payers like you and I, Brian right,
- 11:37Speaker 3: just trying to keep keep our homes warm in the
- 11:39Speaker 3: winter and cool in the summer.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Energy abundance is the key.
- 11:43Speaker 3: And I think I agree with the vager Almaswami as
- 11:45Speaker 3: he's traveled the state and talked about whether it's energy abundance,
- 11:49Speaker 3: housing policy, jobs, and opportunity. He's not looking at it
- 11:53Speaker 3: as a limited pie. He's looking at it as a
- 11:55Speaker 3: how do we grow the pie? How do we put more?
- 11:57Speaker 3: How do we get abundance and use the basic principles
- 12:01Speaker 3: of supply and demand to help bring down costs and
- 12:03Speaker 3: make life in Ohio more affordable with energy bundets. We've
- 12:07Speaker 3: done the work Housebell fifteen did the the you know,
- 12:10Speaker 3: eliminated the final remnants of the House Boll six scandal
- 12:14Speaker 3: and put some real regulatory reform shot clock times into
- 12:19Speaker 3: place to make sure that the regulators are doing their job.
- 12:21Speaker 3: And when an energy project wants to happen in Ohio,
- 12:24Speaker 3: it doesn't just go into a black hole around Cap Square.
- 12:28Speaker 3: But you know, now we've got to see these projects happen.
- 12:31Speaker 3: That's slowly but surely occurring. In fact, the President had
- 12:34Speaker 3: a big announcement yesterday in southern Ohio and the largest
- 12:37Speaker 3: natural gas facilities should be coming to Piked And we'll
- 12:40Speaker 3: doubles in the details that we'll see where that all materializes.
- 12:43Speaker 3: But folks are looking to Ohio because of the bold
- 12:46Speaker 3: work folks did early legislators did early in the session
- 12:49Speaker 3: last year to set the right foundation for energy policy
- 12:53Speaker 3: here in the state.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Of Ohio going in the right direction. Maybe smaller steps
- 12:57Speaker 1: than I might want, but steps in the right direction,
- 12:59Speaker 1: or are they? And that's thanks to Americans for a
- 13:01Speaker 1: Prosperity and all the listeners out there who've jumped on
- 13:04Speaker 1: the bandwagon and decided they were going to help out
- 13:06Speaker 1: in some small way or even big way. And thanks
- 13:08Speaker 1: again to AFP for doing that. Dial Than and Neil
- 13:10Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure for having you on the program.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, my friend. You know you
- 13:13Speaker 1: always have a form here on the fifty five KRSE
- 13:15Speaker 1: Morning Show. Thanks those always, Brian, have a great week,
- 13:18Speaker 1: have a great week too. It's a seven forty nine
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