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Harfield Academy's Head Football Coach Craig Bowman Joins the Show · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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Speaker 3: four pm. We're at Heartfield Academy today. As we move along,
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Speaker 3: it is the High School Football Road Tour, brought to
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Speaker 3: right now. They're head football coach Craig Bowman. Kind of
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Speaker 3: have to jump in with us and take a break. Coach,
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Speaker 3: thanks so much. How are you?
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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Jake? This is this is exciting. Man. Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Press box, Yeah, this press.
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Speaker 3: Box is awesome. This is really good. So this is
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Speaker 3: is this you're one of this press box.
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Speaker 1: Yep, went up right there before the summer summer started.
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Speaker 1: So just got the air conditioner hooked up a few
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Speaker 1: weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: We're ready to roll, and thankfully because it is working.
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's it's funny we talk about the
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Speaker 3: evolution of and we'll get into your team here just
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Speaker 3: a bit. But I know you can appreciate this, the
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Speaker 3: evolution of high school football from and now Texas, let's
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Speaker 3: move them aside. They've always been a different animal California
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Speaker 3: as well, you get out into Florida. But the evolution
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Speaker 3: of turf fields, the evolution of press boxes, and anybody
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Speaker 3: that's ever called high school football can can relate to this.
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Speaker 3: That's doned any length of time. I've called football games
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Speaker 3: almost out of like what would be almost a deer stand.
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Speaker 3: But now you've got nice press boxes, like with you
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Speaker 3: guys here, the football fit. It's it's moved in a
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Speaker 3: different direction at it.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean it it is. It's it's
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Speaker 1: all about the experience now it seems like it is.
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Speaker 1: So we've done a really good job. I've kind of
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Speaker 1: taken our time going uh, you know, one piece at
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Speaker 1: a time. We actually started with the turfield and then
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Speaker 1: we knew we were moving to six A. We had
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Speaker 1: to expand our visitor bleachers, and you know, then we
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Speaker 1: come with a video board and then this this was
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Speaker 1: the last piece. I mean, we went from a five
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Speaker 1: hundred seat stone bleacher, right monstrosity, I sore, and to
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Speaker 1: almost eleven hundred now so and and man, it's it's exciting,
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Speaker 1: and the kids are super fired up and the fans
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Speaker 1: are fired up.
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Speaker 3: You know, talking to t J. Jones and Cayman Tapper
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Speaker 3: and appreciate you sending those guys up to seniors, two
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Speaker 3: leaders on this football team. They talked about their experience here.
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Speaker 3: And you know, you talked to TJ, a guy who's
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Speaker 3: been here for most of his life. It seems like
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Speaker 3: he was talking about, Hey, I remember when this was
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Speaker 3: a grass field, and I remember when, like you said,
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Speaker 3: the bleachers. What you guys have done here is it's
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Speaker 3: nothing short of amazing. And of course, talking with David
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Speaker 3: Horner earlier, talk a little bit about that for you
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Speaker 3: as a leader at football coach, just to see this
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Speaker 3: thing now moving a different direction. You got the championship,
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Speaker 3: we've talked about that, but then to change the trajectory
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Speaker 3: now even again, because like I was talking to you,
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Speaker 3: two guys there, y'all aren't sneaking up on anybody on
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Speaker 3: Friday nights anymore.
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Speaker 1: No, we're not, you know, And look it has been
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Speaker 1: I was here in twenty nineteen and actually one of
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Speaker 1: our starting offensive linemen from that year, Eli Gooden, was
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Speaker 1: out here at practice and he said, man, things are
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Speaker 1: so much different now. I wish we had this, And
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Speaker 1: I said, they were the year that won eight football games,
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Speaker 1: and I can remember fans coming up to me after games.
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Speaker 1: I was off asive coordinator and said things like, we've
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Speaker 1: always come to the games, but man, it's really fun
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Speaker 1: to win. And so, you know, it was building a
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Speaker 1: winning culture and the kids had to buy in. And
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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't just change we're talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Winning takes a lot of efforts, starting in January and
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Speaker 1: pushing all the way through a deep season and trying
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Speaker 1: to keep the guys interested and trying to keep kids interested.
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Speaker 1: These days are tough, yeah, but man, these kids buy
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Speaker 1: into things, and when they see the support of our
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Speaker 1: community and our school, it just kind of raises their
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Speaker 1: level of play.
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Speaker 3: You know, you brought up something about the time that
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Speaker 3: it takes. We had Mike Kershaw on last hour, head
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Speaker 3: football coaching Missippi College, and we were talking about he's
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Speaker 3: in a very similar situation where you were several years ago.
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Speaker 3: Now is trying to build a culture, trying to change
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Speaker 3: the way people think. I guess it's specific, but that
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Speaker 3: does take some time and some patience right out of coaches, players, everybody.
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Speaker 3: Because I'm sure the mindset of your team today, as
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Speaker 3: you came off the field, you said, hey, you told
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Speaker 3: me when I'm paraphrasing here best practice we probably had
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Speaker 3: off camp. So far, today's mentality much different than four
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Speaker 3: years ago.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And Mike and I've spent some time together, and
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, just to plug Mike for a minute.
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Speaker 1: We're super excited about what Mike is trying to do
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Speaker 1: over at Missippi College. I told him the first time
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Speaker 1: I met him, you know, the high school coaches in
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Speaker 1: our area need Missippi College to be a good product
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Speaker 1: our kids. Our kids want to go there. And there's
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Speaker 1: great right here. And he's invested, and so I'm really
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Speaker 1: excited about Mike. And and and we've we've talked a
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Speaker 1: lot about about building your program and he's shared right
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Speaker 1: now he compared to those a great comparison. He said,
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Speaker 1: Right now, I feel like I'm putting the wiring into
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Speaker 1: a new house. He said. It's much needed. You gotta
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Speaker 1: have it. And it's things like infrastructure and lockers and
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Speaker 1: and and those culture things that matter to the kids.
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Speaker 1: But you don't see it, you know, the public eye
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Speaker 1: doesn't see it, right, And that's where it starts. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know TJ talked about a grass field. It has
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Speaker 1: to start with a grass field. And and it just
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Speaker 1: kind of you have to build those. You have to
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Speaker 1: wire the house before you can paint it and put
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Speaker 1: the nice frills in and the you know, all the
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Speaker 1: all the nice cabinet tree and all those that stuff
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Speaker 1: that goes into it. It takes time. And and so
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Speaker 1: uh man, you know, we're excited about Mike and and
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Speaker 1: and I know what he he has a big hill
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Speaker 1: to climb. But if you're not up for the challenge,
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Speaker 1: it's uh it's gonna be a tough road of hope.
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Speaker 1: But I was up for the challenge here when I
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Speaker 1: got the job into twenty twenty, and uh man, we've
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Speaker 1: worked really hard to get to where we are right now.
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Speaker 3: Craig Bowman head football coach Heartfield Academy Hawks taking in
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Speaker 3: another practice today. They getting ready for kickoff again. Some
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Speaker 3: believe heritage on the sixteenth. Great, yep, next week heritage.
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Speaker 3: That's hard to believe. It's next week this week. Do
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Speaker 3: you just as a football coach, and I know coaches talked,
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Speaker 3: do you like where the calendar is? Is there talking?
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're not getting any cooler until October? So
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Speaker 3: is it kind of it is what it is? Or
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Speaker 3: is there any chatter about moving that because some of
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Speaker 3: the fans always have talked about that about hey, maybe
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Speaker 3: we need to start later in the season. But then
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Speaker 3: you get into the school calendar as well, so.
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Speaker 1: I can't have it both ways. Jane, I'll tell you this.
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Speaker 1: I like go ahead and starting. I don't like jamborees.
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Speaker 1: I don't like scrimmages. It's kind of that fake emotion
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Speaker 1: that you point kids too. But they know it's a scrimmage.
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Speaker 1: They know it's a jamboree. So my thing is is, man,
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Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and roll out and play, and
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be ugly, it's gonna be sloppy. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: have guys that go out on kickoff and kick return
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Speaker 1: because it's August sixteenth and not you know, September, right.
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Speaker 1: I do wish we played a little bit later in
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Speaker 1: the season. You know, it would be fun to play
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Speaker 1: in December and get that kind of cold weather. You
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Speaker 1: really only get like two games to wear a long
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Speaker 1: sleeve shirt on the side, that's true, But I can't
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Speaker 1: have it both ways. So you know, I'd rather just
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Speaker 1: let's roll the ball out there and get it rolling.
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Speaker 1: I'm a pretty impatient guy, so let's let's start season.
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Speaker 1: Let's go.
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Speaker 3: And of course you guys kind of played that way,
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Speaker 3: and I say that I joke talk about that theronal
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Speaker 3: go next offensive philosophy. You see it more and more now,
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Speaker 3: you know, talking to Mike about it, Coach Kershaw about it,
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Speaker 3: and you see it around the not just here, but
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Speaker 3: around football. Now everybody's playing four wide, everybody's playing you know,
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Speaker 3: hair on fire. But there has to be a balance
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Speaker 3: on that too, right as a coach, because this is
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Speaker 3: one of the things people are discussing about Jeff Levyt
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Speaker 3: Missippi State is you know, he's got a brand new
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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. Does he outpace his defensive coordinator? You know,
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Speaker 3: too many plays too quickly talk about that, about how
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Speaker 3: you've seen offensive philosophy change.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it trends like shoes, right, right, offense
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Speaker 1: trends like shoes, and so you know, all offenses basically
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Speaker 1: do the same thing. But but everybody wants to kind
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Speaker 1: of have the cool new shoes. And look, you know
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Speaker 1: they're teams in our league. I mean Herbert and MRA
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Speaker 1: plays super fast, and that's what he does. We want
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Speaker 1: the ability here at Heartfield to play fast. But we also,
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Speaker 1: even though I've always been on the offensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball, I'm more of a defensive minded guy in
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Speaker 1: the sense of, if we keep teams from scoring, we
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Speaker 1: have a really good chance of winning. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to get into I hope me and MRA never get
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Speaker 1: into a sixty through fifty six game again. That was
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Speaker 1: the most stressful night of my life, you know. I
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Speaker 1: mean I don't enjoy those games. I actually think Herbert
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Speaker 1: enjoys those games. I like a defensive struggling So so
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Speaker 1: even though we can go fast, I'm constantly in our
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator's year about protecting our defense. Right. We want
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Speaker 1: to put our defense in the best possible position we can.
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Speaker 1: I don't ever want to take away from them. I'm
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Speaker 1: all about putting the best athletes I possibly can on defense.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, offenses, man, Like you know, playing fast, I
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Speaker 1: think it does. If you can play fast, you can
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Speaker 1: do some some really neat things and you can put
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Speaker 1: the other team at a disadvantage. We we are gonna
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Speaker 1: more try and out personnel you, out leverage you. We
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Speaker 1: want we want to find what are We play a
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Speaker 1: lot of different personnel groups. We'll play with a tight end.
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Speaker 1: You never see tight ends anymore. You're coming back, Yeah
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Speaker 1: they are, Coach, They're coming back. They're trending back, just
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Speaker 1: like burking Stocks and new balances. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: They're trending back. So uh, we like to do those
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Speaker 1: kind of things. We have some real unique personnel packages
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Speaker 1: that we like to play with.
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Speaker 3: You got time to sigre around one more second. Absolutely,
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Speaker 3: I take a time out. I do want to come
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Speaker 3: back to that because you bring up something that I
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Speaker 3: have talked about about tight ends. I want to get
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Speaker 3: a little bit more into your personnel groups kind of
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Speaker 3: tomorrow as Craig Bowman had football coach kind of enough
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Speaker 3: to sit in with us, take a little load off
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Speaker 3: and talk a little football coach. I appreciate you guys
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Speaker 3: having us out today for sure.
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Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate y'all. Jake, y'all did a great job
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Speaker 1: of covering our league, and man, these kids enjoy coverage,
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Speaker 1: and so we appreciate all y'all do.
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Speaker 3: Let's go back to something you mentioned. You said, Hey,
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Speaker 3: the tight end position's coming back, and I thought that
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Speaker 3: was interesting because I've said this for a couple of years.
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Speaker 3: It's definitely coming back, but it's coming back in a
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Speaker 3: different form. You know, if you go back what fifteen
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Speaker 3: twenty years ago, the old fashioned tight end that was
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Speaker 3: put your hand in the ground. Now, obviously you've got
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Speaker 3: some guys like Tony Gonzalez and some others in the
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Speaker 3: NFL that can catch it, but that was more of
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Speaker 3: your block tight end. He's just gonna go out and
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Speaker 3: catch a little, you know, five yard button hook, may
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Speaker 3: catch the old banana rout if you remember those things,
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Speaker 3: tight ends run out of the wing tea and stuff.
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Speaker 3: But now it is coming back. You look at what
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Speaker 3: even college football the way Georgia brock Bauers. They used
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Speaker 3: a tight end. Michigan last year used you know, eleven personnel,
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Speaker 3: twelve personnel. It's coming back in the high school game
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 1: At it oh big time. And look after I think
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Speaker 1: it was after Simpce, the our third game of the season,
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Speaker 1: we did not run a personnel group that didn't have
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Speaker 1: you know, either it was either eleven personnel or twenty
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Speaker 1: one personnel. And we had regassed in the big six four. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: who's going to sort they miss the pitch and and
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Speaker 1: he kind of just changed the game for us. And
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Speaker 1: you know, it kind of gives you that extra blocker,
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Speaker 1: you know, because so many and listen, we have incredible
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators in our league, but defensive coordinators have to
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Speaker 1: remember how to line up to the tight end. You know,
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Speaker 1: they're used to four and five wide. All of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: now you know, they're having to bring somebody else down
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Speaker 1: in the box. And if you've got a guy like
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Speaker 1: we had last year with Reed, that can that can
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Speaker 1: push the vertical game a little bit, it makes them dangerous.
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Speaker 1: And that's really what you're going to do, is these
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Speaker 1: kids are getting bigger and more athletic, where they can
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Speaker 1: move like a slight receiver but block like a tackle.
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Speaker 1: And we had that last year and it was great
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Speaker 1: for us. And we've got another one this year and
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Speaker 1: a kid named Sam Oakley, and you know, he's not
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Speaker 1: quite six four, but he's a big, solid kid that
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Speaker 1: can run and can block. And so we're going to
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Speaker 1: be an eleven personnel and twenty one personal Again, maybe
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Speaker 1: not every down, but we're going to be in a lot.
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Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about you your football team. Last year,
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Speaker 3: we talked about it with you. It was a big
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Speaker 3: story because they stood out. Your offensive front, defensive front
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Speaker 3: dominated at times, big parts of the reason that you
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Speaker 3: guys were able to win state last year. Talk about
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Speaker 3: that those position groups this year, and then talk about
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Speaker 3: the importance because as fans we watch football, we want
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Speaker 3: to see quarterbacks throw at receivers catch it big plays, right,
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Speaker 3: But if you don't play up front, especially late in
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Speaker 3: the year, you're not gonna win it. You're not.
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Speaker 1: You got to I mean, football is always going to
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Speaker 1: be football, right, You got a block, you gotta tackle,
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Speaker 1: and you got to protect the football. That's I mean,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you do offensive defensively, That's what
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Speaker 1: you have to do. So. Yeah, our offensive line last
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Speaker 1: year was was really probably the hard and soul of
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Speaker 1: our team. We had four you know, two of them
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Speaker 1: are playing baseball at Hines, one of them is playing
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Speaker 1: at Bell Haven, one of them is playing at Jackson State,
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Speaker 1: and uh so we're we're returning one starter. So we've
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Speaker 1: uh it's it's been some growing pains this spring and
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Speaker 1: this fall camp, but the offensive front's coming along. Defensive
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Speaker 1: front is is is as good as it can be.
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Speaker 1: Drink with with Reggie and London, and then we have
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Speaker 1: our nose guards, Brandon Turner, who's kind of he's our
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Speaker 1: quiet student council, but he's pound for pound, our strongest
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Speaker 1: kid and kind of wrecks a lot of things right
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Speaker 1: there from the noseguard position. But we we are defensive
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Speaker 1: line is is. I mean, I put them up against
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Speaker 1: any d line in the state.
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Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about the difference time. I'm getting
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Speaker 3: into it because it's just because I'm a dork when
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Speaker 3: it comes to football, and not to bore our audience,
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Speaker 3: but you start talking about, you know, a four man
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Speaker 3: front versus you know, five man front or a three
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Speaker 3: men front, and most coaches would tell you from over
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Speaker 3: time in years and years. You got to have a
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Speaker 3: really good nose to run a three man front. You know,
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Speaker 3: I have a good nose. You can't run the three
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Speaker 3: man front. That's why a lot of teams run four,
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Speaker 3: especially in high school football. But to have that guy
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Speaker 3: that you can shade over a center how important. And
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Speaker 3: some coaches would say, hey, we're lucky to have that guy.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and so Brandon, you know, you kind of have
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Speaker 1: the the and Brandon is you know, two hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty two hundred and forty pounds five hundred pounds squadter.
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Speaker 1: But Brandon is a is a slicer and diceer. I
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Speaker 1: mean he's super quick off the ball. He gives centers
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Speaker 1: all kinds of trouble because they, I mean sinners have
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Speaker 1: to think about a lot, plus have to snout the ball,
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Speaker 1: plus have to st step and he's right in your
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Speaker 1: face right there, which is great. You know. In the
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Speaker 1: other theory in those guards is you've got a two
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Speaker 1: gap er, right, you got a bigger kid, you know.
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Speaker 1: Terrence Cody was the epitome of that guy that I
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Speaker 1: should just he was going to take two to three blockers, period.
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Speaker 1: And we have a tenth grader. That's more fits that style.
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Speaker 1: But Brandon, we love a fast, little nose guard man.
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Speaker 1: They make things happen.
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Speaker 3: Craig Bauman on your radiohead football Coach, Hartfield Academy coach.
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Speaker 3: We've got about four minutes left here, you know, when
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Speaker 3: you look at football. As far as I'm curious to
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Speaker 3: get your thoughts on this. The NFL. We just saw
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Speaker 3: the NFL change there kickoff rules. Right, Typically if something
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Speaker 3: that drastic and quotes changes it trickles. Do you expect
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Speaker 3: to maybe see that in the high school ranks here
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Speaker 3: in the next few years.
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to change something, you know, And
16:11
Speaker 1: I look, people may you may get Twitter blown up.
16:15
Speaker 1: I look, I'm fine with it. Before the game we
16:18
Speaker 1: both agree that. Look, we'll just put on the twenty
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Speaker 1: five yard line. And I've heard other people say that,
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Speaker 1: and I'd be fine with it. And listen, I've got
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Speaker 1: two great returners. I've got Braylan Womack and Kensey West
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Speaker 1: back there. So if coaches are listening out there, y'all
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Speaker 1: want to kick it to them, that's fine with me, right,
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Speaker 1: But you know, it is a high speed collision and
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Speaker 1: uh and you know, I Like I said, I may
16:41
Speaker 1: get blown up about this, but I think it protects
16:43
Speaker 1: the kids. And I think it takes you know, the
16:46
Speaker 1: right kind of kid and a lot of scheme to
16:49
Speaker 1: try and protect your kids and do all these things.
16:51
Speaker 1: I'm for, why even have it? Then it's like woodbool,
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Speaker 1: it's like kick and some of that. Well, I'm not
16:56
Speaker 1: going to figure all that out in four minutes on
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Speaker 1: the Jake Wimberley Show. Sure, I'm for I am for
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Speaker 1: some change in that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think if you talk to coaches, if
17:03
Speaker 3: you line ten coaches up and you talk ten to
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Speaker 3: probably be somewhere down the middle. You know a lot
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Speaker 3: of people. And of course there's the argument, especially when
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Speaker 3: you get into the National Football League side as well.
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Speaker 3: That's where a lot of guys, especially if they're drafted,
17:15
Speaker 3: you know, rounds five through seven free agency, they make
17:18
Speaker 3: their ways on a team. So there's a lot of
17:20
Speaker 3: back and forth. But then the safety element, you still
17:23
Speaker 3: have to play that because you even look at what
17:25
Speaker 3: you guys do in other high schools. Now, everybody's wearing
17:28
Speaker 3: the protective shields, everybody's doing everything they can to eliminate
17:31
Speaker 3: some of that extra contact through the week.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely it's about protecting the kids. I mean, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: If we're not protecting, we're not doing our job. That's
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Speaker 1: why we work so hard in the weight room. Weight
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Speaker 1: room is about protection and injury protection. That's why training
17:43
Speaker 1: is so important. That's why recovery has become a big
17:46
Speaker 1: part of our conversations in our game. I mean, we
17:49
Speaker 1: are constantly reading and trying to do everything to give
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Speaker 1: our kids an advantage, one to be a better athlete,
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Speaker 1: but also to be a recovered athlete, and injury is
17:57
Speaker 1: a big part of it and how they come out
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Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I'm like the guardians. I wish I
18:02
Speaker 1: had come up with it, Jake. It's probably cost a
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Speaker 1: dollar to make and they're charging.
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Speaker 3: Sixty or sixty a peace be here today.
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Speaker 1: Heck no, But it's I mean it, it's right for
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Speaker 1: our kids.
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Speaker 3: And we got about two minutes. You mentioned recovery. There's something.
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Speaker 3: When I was coming up, this is a long time
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Speaker 3: because I'm old guy. Now, recovery was your day off
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Speaker 3: on Sunday, right, that was your recovery. And I'm kidding,
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Speaker 3: but I'm not. Now. It's it's it's all about you know,
18:26
Speaker 3: making sure you're stretching right, you're rolling out right. Maybe
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Speaker 3: it's chiropractic work. There's so much that goes into recovery,
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Speaker 3: but it's it's been able to prolong the athlete.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And I mean we have a place right here
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Speaker 1: in Flowood. Maybe I get some free advertise on this,
18:39
Speaker 1: but but recovery, which is a family at Heartfield, they've started.
18:43
Speaker 1: They have the cryo machine to have a chamber you
18:46
Speaker 1: sit in and breathe. I mean, they have all these
18:48
Speaker 1: things and our athletes are very in tune to it.
18:52
Speaker 1: And so if we're not in tune to it as coaches,
18:54
Speaker 1: we're missing something. And and you know these kids demand
18:58
Speaker 1: that from us.
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Speaker 3: Also.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's not just about ice bats anymore. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's about cryo and cupping and all these other things
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Speaker 1: and and and we got to be in tune to
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Speaker 1: it because because that's what they're paying attention to.
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Speaker 3: Well, coach, we appreciate you taking us some time with
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Speaker 3: us today. Thank you for having us out here today,
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Speaker 3: and I want to tell you best of luck for
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Speaker 3: this year. I think you guys are going to have
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Speaker 3: a great year and we look forward to seeing what
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Speaker 3: you guys do this year.
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Speaker 1: Take man, always love being on here Go Hawks.
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Speaker 3: Hey appreciate it. Craig Bowman on your radio. We got
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Speaker 3: about one minute left.