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Week 6 NFL Picks with Cynthia Frelund · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are back on the
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Speaker 1: winning track and back in the Chris Wesley podcast studio.
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Speaker 1: I am Greg Rosenthal, and I'm here for the first
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Speaker 1: time in three weeks in person. The model, the computer model,
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Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you.
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Speaker 3: Got to be confused with like a real model.
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Speaker 2: No, you could you get a get Ano one who
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Speaker 2: could do it all.
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Speaker 3: If you're watching on YouTube, I'm I'm we're looking a
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Speaker 3: little harsh.
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Speaker 2: It's been Oh stop, oh look, look amazing.
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Speaker 1: And yes, while you're there, if you're watching, like subscribe,
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Speaker 1: we really love growing the show. So I said, we're
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Speaker 1: back on the winning track. I went and checked our
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Speaker 1: picks from a week ago. Unfortunately we couldn't both go
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Speaker 1: undefeated because we went against each other. And I did
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Speaker 1: get that Patriots game right over the Bills. They not
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Speaker 1: only covered, but they won. Same thing with my Broncos pick. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: my pick of the year. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: remember that.
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Speaker 3: I do you remember that?
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Speaker 1: Respect the Buccaneers, no matter how injured they were, exact
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Speaker 1: on their name. There were more Seahawks injuries than I expected,
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Speaker 1: but that's excuses. So I go to and one you
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Speaker 1: got that Bills one wrong. Yeah, but you nailed Washington
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Speaker 1: and Indianapolis, who both covered by about a million compared
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Speaker 1: to where the line were. So we're on the winning
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Speaker 1: tracks right after a tough start to the season. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to give you the first pick, and if you're
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Speaker 1: new to the show, we make three picks every single
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Speaker 1: week and we do it against the spread, and I
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Speaker 1: might have some extras for you today.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So where are you seeing this New England and
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Speaker 3: New Orleans line?
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Speaker 2: I think it's at three and a half.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm good with that. I'm good with the Patriots
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Speaker 3: to win by more than three and a half points
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Speaker 3: in New Orleans like that.
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Speaker 1: You have more confidence maybe than I do as a
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Speaker 1: Patriots fan.
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Speaker 3: Tell me why, Well, for a couple of reasons. Number one,
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Speaker 3: when I went back and rewatched the Saints game. To
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Speaker 3: get five turnovers in a row, that's something that hasn't
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Speaker 3: happened since like five interceptions from Ryan Fitzpatrick our research packets.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's like, that's some pretty crazy stuff and
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Speaker 3: that's what it took against the Giants, right, and now
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Speaker 3: you have Drake May dealing the situation where he's great
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Speaker 3: when he's not under pressure. The Saints. Though they have
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Speaker 3: a decent number of sacks, they're not great under They're
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Speaker 3: not causing a lot of pressure. So my sense here
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Speaker 3: is that I think the Patriots, if there's no let down,
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's like a hangover from the Bills win.
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Speaker 3: I'm not so worried about that. For me. This one's
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Speaker 3: maybe let's see the run game improved for the Pats
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Speaker 3: in this one. I think it's spilled on that success.
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Speaker 3: Plus the defense is like significantly healthier. Christian is all.
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Speaker 3: It's like that turns out it helps to have your
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Speaker 3: good players.
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Speaker 1: As we tape this, he popped up on Thursday's injury
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Speaker 1: report as limited with hamstring injury, which is concerning because
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Speaker 1: he wasn't on the injury report Wednesday, So something happened
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Speaker 1: during practice.
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Speaker 2: We'll have to find out. That would be unfortunate.
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Speaker 3: But for you, well, I still would be okay with okay,
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Speaker 3: I'm still okay with it. I'm just saying I don't
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Speaker 3: think they're gonna have a hangover from that.
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Speaker 1: Christian More's crushing, he's playing really well, Milton Williams is
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Speaker 1: playing well, and the Saints offensive line is not protected
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Speaker 1: well I do think it's a mismatch when the Patriots
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Speaker 1: offense has the ball. In terms of the coaching, Josh
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Speaker 1: McDaniels has done a really good job scheming open receivers
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Speaker 1: and making it easier on Drake May, so Drake May
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Speaker 1: gets the easy stuff. And then as you saw in
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Speaker 1: the Bills game, when they got that cover for me
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Speaker 1: and the win.
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Speaker 2: I stayed up till four thirty in the morning in
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Speaker 2: London watching that.
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Speaker 1: Not big not to watch that, I'm not that big
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Speaker 1: of a fan, but we taped our recap show, which
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Speaker 1: we have to wait for the games then, so we're
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Speaker 1: basically on Pacific time.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: And by the time I got back to my hotel
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Speaker 1: it was about three thirty and I had to pack
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Speaker 1: as well for the next morning. So I'm packing watching
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Speaker 1: that game and uh fight as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, wow, that's some That's something I
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Speaker 3: feel like you should be like, I'm a huge fan.
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Speaker 3: I'm back in no wait a minute, though, I will
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Speaker 3: have to pick. I'd like got like one little boat
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Speaker 3: pick And again this is ticky, tacky, because the wins
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Speaker 3: a win and we'll take it. But like those three turnovers,
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Speaker 3: like two were lucky yeah, I mean, sometimes it's better
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Speaker 3: to be lucky than good.
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Speaker 1: But like, oh, yardage wise, just overall, eyeball test wise,
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Speaker 1: that was a game that it felt like the Bills
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Speaker 1: were the better team. I still like the fact that
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Speaker 1: the Pages are getting so many points, but it felt
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Speaker 1: like the Bills should have won that game and would
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Speaker 1: have won that game seven or eight times out of ten.
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Speaker 1: But that's sports especially, Okay. I've really had a journey
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Speaker 1: with my picks this week because because of injuries, things
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Speaker 1: keep changing around and I can't believe in the end.
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Speaker 1: My favorite pick of the week, at least the one
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Speaker 1: that I know I want to take, is Atlanta plus
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Speaker 1: four and a half at home against the Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to fade the Bills in general. I think
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Speaker 1: because of their schedule.
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Speaker 3: You think like you have a big head from that
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Speaker 3: late night watch.
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Speaker 1: I always have a big head, and it's just growing
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Speaker 1: even bigger. Although my record this year in this show,
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Speaker 1: it should not it should not be the way. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I don't think these two teams are that different, Cynthia,
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Speaker 1: So I love a home underdog that.
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Speaker 3: You don't think the teams are that different? Do you think,
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Speaker 3: Michael Pennix has is in any of much the same
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Speaker 3: stratosphere as Josh Allen.
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Speaker 1: I think, based on the opponents that they've played and
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Speaker 1: what they've put out on the field in twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 1: the Bills are a better team than the Falcons.
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Speaker 3: The Falcons lost to the Panther.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you brought that up, and that's doing
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Speaker 1: a lot to change their numbers.
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Speaker 2: They've been impressive the other three games.
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Speaker 1: It was a bad game, and even that game, the
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Speaker 1: Panthers didn't get over three hundred yards, like, the yardage
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Speaker 1: was pretty even. Pennis had a total horror show, and
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Speaker 1: that's certainly possibly happened. But if you think about the
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Speaker 1: other three games, they actually outgained the Bucks significantly and
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Speaker 1: lost at the Buzzer like that, that's not a horrible loss.
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Speaker 1: They outplayed a good Commander's team, which granted had Mariota,
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Speaker 1: but it was really the offensive performance by the Falcons.
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Speaker 1: That was the last game that we saw, and they
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Speaker 1: dominated the Vikings in JJ McCarthy in that prime time game.
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Speaker 2: I just mean their defense, I think is solid, and
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Speaker 2: their offense.
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Speaker 3: But even a solid defense, it's still Josh yeah.
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Speaker 1: And so that's why I think the Bills will likely
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Speaker 1: win this game. But when I see a home dog
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Speaker 1: four and a half points in a game that kind
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Speaker 1: of like the Broncos last week although they were on
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Speaker 1: the road, kind of like the Pages, I could see
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Speaker 1: them winning this game every Bills season.
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Speaker 2: And you know this because they know you're a big
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Speaker 2: Bill's head. You know you will watch some teams closer
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Speaker 2: than others, and the Bills are one of them.
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Speaker 3: Yes, if you pay me money, I will watch your team.
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Speaker 1: You have worked for the Buffalo Bills yet, yes, so
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Speaker 1: of course you know what's one underrated thing can be bought?
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Speaker 3: Greg.
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Speaker 2: I mean Kyle knows it, you know, No, of course not,
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Speaker 2: of course not.
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Speaker 3: Actually, if he's listening, I would like a few things,
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Speaker 3: and I've been doing a lot of chores lately.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so there we go.
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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I don't need anything.
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Speaker 1: They go through stretches in every season where they just
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Speaker 1: hit some lulls. And again, I just think that the
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Speaker 1: Falcons offense John Drake London, they figured out some things
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Speaker 1: in that game before the bye against Washington.
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Speaker 2: I really like what they like.
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Speaker 1: I've actually thought Pennix has looked good except for that
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Speaker 1: one bad game, and so I trust in their offense.
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Speaker 1: I really don't trust in the Bills defense. I think
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun, high scoring game on Monday
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Speaker 1: Night and it'll just be close and come down to
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Speaker 1: the end.
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Speaker 2: So I'll take four and a half points. All right,
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Speaker 2: what's your second pick?
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Speaker 3: Okay, so second pick. There's a few that I really hate,
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Speaker 3: but I love this one. Actually, you know what, I
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Speaker 3: feel really strong about Indianapolis to win. Okay, let's go
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Speaker 3: listen to Colts. They did me well last week. Let's
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Speaker 3: go back to that Colts. Well, they're at home yet again.
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Speaker 3: This time they host Arizona. Now, at the time of
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Speaker 3: this recording, if Kyler Murray, I don't think you practiced
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Speaker 3: this morning, right, So.
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Speaker 1: I don't at this point, I don't think he's gonna play,
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Speaker 1: but I don't.
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Speaker 2: Does that affect it that much?
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Speaker 3: I kind of not really, But I just mean that
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Speaker 3: the Lions or the line, not the Lions. The line
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Speaker 3: could move, but I still think the Colts cover unless
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Speaker 3: some crazy line happens. I still think the Colts earn
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Speaker 3: a good spot.
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Speaker 1: It almost looks like the line as of taping has
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Speaker 1: already adjusted because it's up to seven. Okay, so it
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Speaker 1: has moved up with that Kyler Murray is out of
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Speaker 1: practice on Thursday.
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Speaker 3: If it moves to like ten, then then I might
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Speaker 3: get a little bit. I might back down from my position,
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Speaker 3: but I like, we'll send a tweet out correct it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but I think unless it gets to double digits, I
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Speaker 3: still think the Colts. It's the Colts are just they're
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Speaker 3: on a heater the Cardinals. The thing that the Cardinals
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Speaker 3: have been relatively decent at stopping the run. They don't
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Speaker 3: really have an answer for Jonathan Taylor's types of run.
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Speaker 3: So to me, this is a huge mismatch in favor
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Speaker 3: of the Ponies.
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Speaker 1: I look at their profile, and I'm sure your numbers
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Speaker 1: say the same thing. And you see a team that's
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Speaker 1: a top two or three team in the NFL that
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Speaker 1: they have been a wagon offensively, good enough with your
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Speaker 1: guy lou defensively where they can come up with these
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Speaker 1: game plans that create turnovers that are different every week.
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Speaker 1: You're not sure what you're gonna get. It's not a
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Speaker 1: great defense, but it's a good enough defense. It's a
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Speaker 1: sport that offense.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 2: I've been back and forth all week.
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Speaker 1: I actually had Arizona plus seven written down as my
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Speaker 1: one of my maybe extras, it wasn't gonna be one
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Speaker 1: of my picks. I'm now crossing that off. I haven't
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Speaker 1: really actually felt good about that.
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Speaker 3: That sounds like really bad luck.
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Speaker 1: I'm basing it too much on vibes that they know
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Speaker 1: after last week that it almost feels like they're seasons
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Speaker 1: on the line this week if they fall to two
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Speaker 1: and four, they have a tough schedule coming up too.
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Speaker 1: They are like, you know how they used to stay
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, like you never want to be the main
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Speaker 1: character on Twitter for the day. No, the Cardinals have
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Speaker 1: been the main character in the NFL this week, And
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Speaker 1: I just feel like if if they got anything in
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Speaker 1: them to show up and play their best game like this,
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Speaker 1: this would be it.
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Speaker 2: They need it.
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Speaker 3: They need it.
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Speaker 1: Not that they're going to try harder. I'm not saying that,
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Speaker 1: but I do think sometimes when teams are desperate, you
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Speaker 1: get a good performance when.
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Speaker 3: Your coach has to pay a fine for an interaction
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Speaker 3: with the player, Like things are bad when you lose
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Speaker 3: three games in a row on walk off field goals.
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Speaker 3: Things are bad like that. It's tough, Like it's just
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Speaker 3: so as much as they might want to or need it,
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Speaker 3: Like the Titans lost that game. I don't think the
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Speaker 3: car you know, if the Titans won that game, I
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Speaker 3: don't think that the Cardinals lost it like that. The
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Speaker 3: Titans didn't like sit there and like do something extraordinary, Right,
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Speaker 3: you're saying the Cardinals lost. Yes, sorry, Cardinals loss it.
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Speaker 3: Point being is like that was a weird The end
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Speaker 3: of that game was weird.
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Speaker 1: This whole season for the Cardinals was there. They have
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Speaker 1: not looked right to me, even though they're two and
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Speaker 1: like they got two wins early, but schedule has helped.
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm going to cross that one off.
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Speaker 3: I would cross that. I mean, especially with the Kyler Mravian.
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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought up the fine of Jonathan
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Speaker 1: Gannon because I keep seeing this argument about oh, now,
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Speaker 1: you know, like Demarkata made one of the worst plays
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Speaker 1: in the world, and now the coach is the one
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Speaker 1: who's getting fine and the coach like whatever happened to
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Speaker 1: like accountability, And it's like, how dumb can you be
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Speaker 1: he could be in the process of losing that locker room,
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Speaker 1: like you have a large group of grown men who
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Speaker 1: you need to sacrifice a lot to play as hard
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Speaker 1: as they possibly can and believe in everything you're saying.
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Speaker 1: And the organization, I think is doing a good job
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Speaker 1: of finding Gannon, and Gannon has done a good job
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Speaker 1: apologizing about it, because that is one clear way to
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Speaker 1: have a lot of your players the most important part
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Speaker 1: of your franchise tune you out because he crossed a line.
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Speaker 3: Also, just on a human level, yes, like there are
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Speaker 3: ways to punish someone for making a bad play that
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Speaker 3: are really well like adopted by the general consensus of
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Speaker 3: a team. Right, there are things that you know, don't
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Speaker 3: play him for a quarter. We see that all the time.
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Speaker 3: Don't don't do it, don't like confront like it's weird,
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Speaker 3: Like it's just it.
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Speaker 2: Was right because he's not allowed to hit back in
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Speaker 2: that situation.
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Speaker 3: No, you're not allow No one's allowed to.
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Speaker 1: I only laughed at I was thinking of whatever happened
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Speaker 1: to Jordan Addison in Minnesota's.
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Speaker 3: What somebody tell me what I think?
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Speaker 2: There was some buzz like they just just didn't know
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Speaker 2: where he was. They didn't know where he was. But
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Speaker 2: he's too good.
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Speaker 1: And you can just imagine Kevin O'Connell being like, I
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Speaker 1: can't believe I have to go the first quarter without
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Speaker 1: Kevin o'c with Jordan Naszaba. I got to do something
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Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, he helped win the game. Okay,
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Speaker 1: my second pick. I'm spinning here because as we go
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Speaker 1: to tape, mac Jones is reportedly like really limited at
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Speaker 1: that forty nine Ers practice, and if they go to
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Speaker 1: Adrian Martinez. I just don't want this thing to be
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Speaker 1: too out of date, because I was thinking pretty hard
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Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers covering the three in Tampa
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Speaker 1: because Kyle Shanahan as owner. I really looked at that
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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles in the last three years, it's been incredibly
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Speaker 1: one sided in terms of the yardage. They won three straight,
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Speaker 1: they won thirty five to seven a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: and the yard you know what, it's just too much.
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Speaker 1: If mac Jones is seriously compromised, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: it's the lion liar who lies playing games on the
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Speaker 1: injury report too and saying like the portion that the
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Speaker 1: media can see mac Jones looks too limited. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to be going with a third quarterback in Rickels,
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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to do that one. I have
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Speaker 1: settled on Cleveland plus five and a half as one
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Speaker 1: of my picks. Okay, Pittsburgh's their opponent, Pittsburgh is hosting them.
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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a tough spot for the Browns
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Speaker 1: who are coming over from London, whereas the Steelers, who
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Speaker 1: are coming from Dublin, had the week off so they
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Speaker 1: have extra rest. Don't love that, and they're getting healthier.
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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren, Joey Porter Junior returning, Alex Hei Scheme, Alex Heismith.
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Speaker 1: I just think the Browns defense is legit good and
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Speaker 1: the Steelers offense I don't trust them just based on
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Speaker 1: that performance, and five and a half points is enough
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Speaker 1: for me. One of my big takeaways from watching that
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Speaker 1: game live. I do think Dylan Gabriel is going to
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Speaker 1: give this team a better chance to win. I do
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Speaker 1: think they've found something in Quinn John Jenkins, great running back.
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Speaker 1: They are healthier on the offensive line actually than they've been.
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Speaker 1: Jack Conklin is back, the interior is basically there. That
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Speaker 1: was a pretty functional looking, mistake free offense by the Browns,
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Speaker 1: and all I need is for their defense to play
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Speaker 1: well enough for them to lose fourteen to ten or
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Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen or maybe even get an upset when
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Speaker 1: I'm not buying this Pittsburgh offensive resurgence. I think it's
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Speaker 1: a mismatch when the Steelers have the ball in favor
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Speaker 1: of the Browns defense. Let's go Browns covering five and
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Speaker 1: a half in a place that they haven't won in
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Speaker 1: the regular season for twenty one years. What an outrageous
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Speaker 1: stat But they did win in the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, fans, I'm rooting for Dylan Gabriel to throw
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Speaker 3: two touchdown passes because then he becomes the first Browns
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Speaker 3: quarterback to have done that in the first two starts.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go, like, I want.
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Speaker 3: To see it happen. Make some history, brother.
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Speaker 1: People were like almost making fun of how limited they
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Speaker 1: looked and how they were coaching around. It was like, no,
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Speaker 1: the Vikings were getting quick pressure every other play and
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Speaker 1: he was making the right decisions. And this is a
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Speaker 1: young team. I just think five and a hal half
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Speaker 1: is too much. This season right now has not had
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Speaker 1: a lot of dominant teams, not a lot of predictability,
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Speaker 1: and so if you're giving me four and a half
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Speaker 1: five and a half in a game where I could
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Speaker 1: see either team winning, that's what I'm going with right now,
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Speaker 1: So I'm going Browns plus five and a half.
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Speaker 2: Your your last pick, Cynthia.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well here's my question. First, do you think that
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Speaker 3: Ravens are on sale? Because like right now, Ravens at
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Speaker 3: at one and four, they could be if you.
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Speaker 2: Like that, Do you think what a Shoddies could be
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Speaker 2: selling the team?
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Speaker 3: No? No, no, no no no no. Like their futures, the
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Speaker 3: market for their future to win the division, is it
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Speaker 3: on sale?
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Speaker 1: It is crazy that they were favored to win the
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Speaker 1: division at lest they were.
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Speaker 3: They were Super Bowl favorites at one point.
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Speaker 1: But they this week they're still favorites to win the
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Speaker 1: division anymore. Not but that's because everyone saw that stat
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Speaker 1: and then they started betting it.
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Speaker 3: But I think they're on sale. I think their future
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Speaker 3: the market is on sale.
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Speaker 2: So what does that mean?
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Speaker 3: Means that if you buy them low, you could get
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Speaker 3: a good return on your investment.
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Speaker 1: I could see that in terms of a long term pick.
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Speaker 1: I could not see that in terms of this week's
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Speaker 1: game against the Rams. I'm not talking about this one, okay.
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Speaker 3: But future, the future. So you could actually hear me
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Speaker 3: out if you believe the Rams will beat the Ravens,
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Speaker 3: which I think we both do.
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Speaker 2: And cover that. Maybe I should take that.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well you still have a pick left, so you can. Yeah,
16:14
Speaker 3: but if you believe that, then the Ravens' future odds
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Speaker 3: of winning the division or making it to the playoffs,
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Speaker 3: that becomes an even deeper discount.
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Speaker 2: Right, wait till next buy it when slow? Yes, I
16:26
Speaker 2: don't know.
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Speaker 3: I just was thinking about that earlier. I wanted to
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Speaker 3: get your thoughts on it.
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Speaker 1: I like that, and I don't think that's crazy, and
16:33
Speaker 1: I think this is the right form to be doing that.
16:35
Speaker 1: Get you a show that can do both. You know,
16:36
Speaker 1: pick some games this week, let's pick a little long term,
16:39
Speaker 1: wait for them to lose to the Rams, then take
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Speaker 1: some Ravens to win the division, Ravens to win the
16:44
Speaker 1: AFC when they're at when they're at one in five,
16:47
Speaker 1: Because if you look at that schedule coming out.
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Speaker 3: Sale, it's it's like, you know what, like Black Friday
16:52
Speaker 3: deal right Prime Day whatever, you know.
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Speaker 2: But it's like buying designer stuff on stale.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this was like exactly the high of
17:00
Speaker 1: markups a long time ago.
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Speaker 2: And saying I'm with you, all right, are your third pick?
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Speaker 3: My third pick. Now that I have thoroughly talked for
17:07
Speaker 3: two I like, this is going to be a crazy one.
17:10
Speaker 3: But I think Miami took a plus four.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my ones that I wrote down
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Speaker 1: as my extras. That was gonna and now that I'm
17:18
Speaker 1: crossing off games because of injuries that I don't like anymore,
17:21
Speaker 1: that could have been my third. But I'll just instead
17:23
Speaker 1: of going together on it, I think it will be separate.
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Speaker 2: But I totally agree. That's probably my fourth favorite or
17:29
Speaker 2: fifth favorite this week.
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Speaker 3: I just think the Chargers O line problems and plus
17:33
Speaker 3: Amarion Hampton plus right, I saw like maybe Trey Pipkins
17:36
Speaker 3: and maybe Mackai Beckton, and you know you got Denzel Periman,
17:40
Speaker 3: you get Khalul Mack. Like there there are so many
17:42
Speaker 3: people who are either already out or potentially out, and
17:45
Speaker 3: especially the two tackles plus Omari and Hampton's like, welcome
17:48
Speaker 3: to the game, Kamani Vidal.
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Speaker 1: Right, Hassan Hassan Haskins right. And it's really about that
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Speaker 1: offensive line. And look some backups on the offensive line,
17:57
Speaker 1: they're coached up well and they play well. That's now
18:00
Speaker 1: we're onund like seven. No, I'm saying the Chargers have
18:03
Speaker 1: shown us that's not happening. They're playing horribly. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: Makai Beckton, the.
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Speaker 3: Big Ticket, I think that's his nickname.
18:11
Speaker 1: He was in a non contact jersey on Wednesday. He's
18:14
Speaker 1: back out of it, so he might play for them.
18:17
Speaker 1: But but even if he started, their center play has
18:19
Speaker 1: been terrible. And that that's Bradley Boseman, who's healthy, but
18:22
Speaker 1: he or at least playing.
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Speaker 2: He's their normal starter. He's just been terrible. So they're
18:26
Speaker 2: terrible at like four or five positions.
18:29
Speaker 3: Herbert already has thrown more picks than he did all
18:31
Speaker 3: of last season. I mean, I just think it's a
18:32
Speaker 3: really it's tough sletting when you know Mike McDaniel had
18:37
Speaker 3: a meeting with mister Ross, Like that's a that's a
18:40
Speaker 3: that's a tough you know you talk about.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good or bad for the Dolphins,
18:44
Speaker 1: just I think it.
18:45
Speaker 3: Means that the it's stressful, like things are, there's a
18:47
Speaker 3: little turmoil there, like that was embarrassing last week. I
18:51
Speaker 3: would imagine they think that's embarrassing the way that that
18:54
Speaker 3: loss happened. So this goes with my theory of what
18:58
Speaker 3: I've been saying, here's probably still win the same. This
19:00
Speaker 3: goes with what I was talking about before in this
19:02
Speaker 3: NFL where the Chargers, if you were only looking at
19:05
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, their defense is not playing well.
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Speaker 2: They're getting run over.
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Speaker 1: Now the Dolphins have struggled to run the ball, so
19:11
Speaker 1: that's like weakness on weakness, we'll see their offensive line.
19:15
Speaker 1: Like in the last couple of weeks, the Chargers have
19:17
Speaker 1: looked like a bad football team, and it's because of
19:20
Speaker 1: injuries in large part, but on defense they have been
19:25
Speaker 1: out coached a little bit.
19:26
Speaker 2: And four and a half is just too much.
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I just I think that like
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Speaker 3: they could win by a field goal, we'd still be right.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm with you. That's gonna be one of
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Speaker 2: my extra picks.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing a rare total pivot because in the end,
19:40
Speaker 1: and I go with what's in my heart?
19:42
Speaker 3: Oh your heart?
19:43
Speaker 1: Since I saw that rams pop up seven and a half,
19:46
Speaker 1: actually thought, you know what, I do like that more
19:49
Speaker 1: than anything else here, because I'm going to walk you
19:51
Speaker 1: through the process.
19:52
Speaker 2: For the listeners that care, and there can't be that many.
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Speaker 3: I care.
19:57
Speaker 1: I really believe in the Seattle Seahawks this year, and
20:00
Speaker 1: I liked them one, you know, as a road favorite.
20:03
Speaker 1: Right now in Jacksonville, it's a one and a half
20:07
Speaker 1: point line as we're taping this. We just don't know
20:10
Speaker 1: which defensive players. And I think I overlooked that a
20:12
Speaker 1: little bit in terms of my pick of the year
20:15
Speaker 1: last week.
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Speaker 2: And look, they had the ball back. They had least
20:18
Speaker 2: a seven points.
20:19
Speaker 3: Not like you could have been either completely right or
20:21
Speaker 3: completely wrong based on literally one freakin' throw.
20:25
Speaker 1: Right, it was a throw that bounced off someone's helmet
20:28
Speaker 1: and was intercepted. I thought they were going to win
20:30
Speaker 1: by three, and I was going to skate that said,
20:33
Speaker 1: the way the Buccaneers lit them up on offense, I
20:36
Speaker 1: think made showed that it was a bad pick.
20:37
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was that was a coin flip game.
20:39
Speaker 1: But I think the biggest reason why they struggled so
20:42
Speaker 1: much is no Julian Love, no Devin Witherspoon, DeMarcus Lawrence
20:47
Speaker 1: got hurt in that game. Derek Hall is out for them.
20:50
Speaker 1: All of those players might still be out. I have
20:53
Speaker 1: not been back at practice, and so if I knew
20:56
Speaker 1: that they at least the guys in the secondary were returning,
20:59
Speaker 1: I would like that. I like the forty nine ers pick,
21:01
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, even without Ricky Piersall, I was ready
21:03
Speaker 1: to pick them with Mac Jones as we're taping that
21:06
Speaker 1: Jack Jones's status is a little more uncertain than I.
21:09
Speaker 3: I agree that he looked like he was dressed as
21:12
Speaker 3: an Alice in Wonderland character come to life. It looked
21:15
Speaker 3: like like a car, like a play. It was like this,
21:17
Speaker 3: it's giving playing card, you know, like King Us a
21:20
Speaker 3: strange kind of hearts or something.
21:23
Speaker 1: What he was giving to me, if you watched them
21:25
Speaker 1: was when they drafted him. Do you remember how he
21:28
Speaker 1: like walked very like angrily up to the podium because
21:32
Speaker 1: I think everyone had passed on him or just that's
21:34
Speaker 1: how he walks.
21:35
Speaker 2: He walked.
21:35
Speaker 1: He just has a menacing walk. There's just something very strained.
21:40
Speaker 1: He's very he's very emotional. And that was a great
21:44
Speaker 1: game for him, and I believed that he was actually
21:47
Speaker 1: because of how he works the short game so well.
21:50
Speaker 1: A fine matchup against Tampa, Like it's not a big
21:53
Speaker 1: difference to me to have him versus Party and I
21:55
Speaker 1: love the matchup Shanahan versus Bulls. But all these injuries
22:00
Speaker 1: are spooking me here. And so that's a long, really
22:03
Speaker 1: long winded way of saying I feel better about the
22:05
Speaker 1: Rams just winning this game. They have extra rest. I
22:08
Speaker 1: know they're going east, but I love a little extra rest.
22:11
Speaker 1: And then they have the number one design success rate
22:14
Speaker 1: on the ground in the NFL. All they have to
22:16
Speaker 1: do all day is just hand the ball off against
22:18
Speaker 1: a Ravens defense who is twenty eighth in the league
22:21
Speaker 1: against the run. They're terrible against the pass too. They're
22:23
Speaker 1: just terrible on defense. And there's no reason to think
22:27
Speaker 1: they can hold the Rams under thirty. So can can
22:30
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush get to twenty four to cover this number?
22:33
Speaker 2: I have my doubts.
22:35
Speaker 3: I mean, we all had our doubts about the Rams
22:39
Speaker 3: last or the Niners last week too, and some weird stuff.
22:43
Speaker 3: You never know that Tarvel is weird. But I have
22:46
Speaker 3: a hard time. Like I told you, I think the
22:48
Speaker 3: Rams are just waiting for that deep discount. The Ravens
22:51
Speaker 3: are just reading for that deep discount. The Rams. Maybe
22:53
Speaker 3: the Rams know about it too, They're like, we're gonna
22:55
Speaker 3: help this deep discount happen. This is gonna be fun.
22:57
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think they're gonna be on
22:59
Speaker 3: big time sale and then we're to be look like
23:01
Speaker 3: genius is picking them.
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Speaker 2: I like that. I'm not giving up on the Ravens
23:04
Speaker 2: long term. Oh.
23:05
Speaker 1: I do think though their defense has problems that need
23:08
Speaker 1: a bye week. They just traded for a Loie Gillman
23:10
Speaker 1: at safety. They just signed Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Their rookie
23:14
Speaker 1: safety Starks is not playing well. We don't know if
23:17
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's playing this game that they might get Marlon
23:19
Speaker 1: Humphrey back, but they're not going to have Rokewan Smith back.
23:23
Speaker 3: Three. They're like a bunch of guys who allowed.
23:24
Speaker 1: To Madam Week is never coming back. They just traded
23:26
Speaker 1: a Dafe away. It's a mess. The Rams are the
23:29
Speaker 1: wrong offense to go against when your defense is a mess.
23:32
Speaker 1: So to review in the end, my list has completely changed.
23:36
Speaker 1: I crossed out two of my picks today. I'm going
23:39
Speaker 1: with Atlanta plus four and a half, the Browns plus
23:42
Speaker 1: five and a half, and the Rams minus seven and
23:45
Speaker 1: a half. On the road, you have the Dolphins. By
23:48
Speaker 1: the way, you get an extra half point here. The
23:49
Speaker 1: official line right now is four and a half. There's
23:51
Speaker 1: a free point half point for you generous. You get
23:54
Speaker 1: Miami plus four and a half, and remind me what
23:58
Speaker 1: your other two picks were Indie minus seven at home at.
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Speaker 3: Home, which was the good one, and then my first one.
24:06
Speaker 3: Now we've been everywhere, what was my first one? New
24:09
Speaker 3: England three and a half.
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Speaker 2: I like that.
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Speaker 1: I like your faith in the Patriots this week. Looking
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Speaker 1: forward to watching that game. Looking forward to taping game
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Speaker 1: debut with us. We're on NFL Network if you want
24:20
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24:25
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24:28
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24:32
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24:35
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24:38
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24:40
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Speaker 3: It's a lot of meat, It's a lot of time
24:45
Speaker 3: with me.
24:45
Speaker 1: There's never enough time. It is great to be back
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Speaker 1: in the studio with you. We will be back in
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Speaker 2: Cannot wait see you that