Latest / Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen / Chulin 28
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- 0:02SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna start where we left off yesterday by the two dots.
- 0:07SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
- 0:09SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna start by the two dots on the bottom of Khovzain Mabes.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Where we left off, that's actually not two dots, but umribud and shimmer vitzab bin pinchas, probably eight lines from the bottom of Khovzain Baze.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: So starting off with a yisoid, machik is over here.
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: Shkita's oif shafting birds.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Is that a dindaris?
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: So they have to shacht it behim, of course it's a dindarisa.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: But by a bird, is it going to be the rightsa?
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be the rabanan?
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Umribud and shimmer vitza bin pinchas.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: In shritaliv minataira, shrita's oif is not minataira, it's only a dindara banan.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: Minatira on a the right level, you take a bird, throw it against the wall like you do to a fish, take a bite out of it.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Shinemar, as the pasik says, or don't do that, you have dumb issues, but you get the point.
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: But shit, shit, in shita life minatara according to the Biudah, in the name of Rabitzabin Pinchas, Shinemar, how do we know that?
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: Vishafach.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: Because the Pasik says Vishhafach.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: This is as it relates to the Kisoi Hadam.
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: There's a mitzvah of Kisadam after you do the Shita or whatever you're gonna do.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: And the blood comes out, so you have to cover the Kisei Hadam, you cover it with um earth.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: So as it relates to Vishvah, it says Vishhafach.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: What does that teach me?
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: That the blood is spilling out, it's time spilling out, it's not spilling out because of uh shachitah it says vishafah, vishvich b'amah sagi, as long as it's spilling out whatever you do to it to cause the blood to leave, it's gonna be good enough even if you just uh cracked its neck open.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: It says gemara, iochikhaya nami.
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: If that's a mikar to the fact that shita saf is not the raisa is from the fact that it says vishafak, what about chayanami?
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: Also it says, and therefore, also a chayyah, maybe you should tell me it doesn't need shaitaminataira, which we know is not true.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: It says a gomara, no.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: It's kushlipsule amgadash.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: The reason we know chayyah is chayebhita minatara is because you have a hekage between by for by a chaya to psuleamkddashim.
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: Psulea mgdashim is something that was called, regular behemah, that got a mum.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: And if it got a mum, what's the allacha?
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: You pay it, and then you can use the animal for yourself.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: You can eat it.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: Now, sulea mugdashim, um, you paid and it, but you need shita.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Psule amugdashim is a regular mahema, of course you need shita.
- 1:59SPEAKER_00: And therefore, chaya, what's iskish in the positive, it has a hekash between achaya and psule mgdashim, just like psule mukdash, before you eat it, you need the shita.
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: So to a haya, you need a good shkitah so you would not be able to include in this drash, it says the gemara.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: Oif non is kush the behemah.
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: But a if is also iskush, it also has a hakish the behema, which should teach me just like a behema needs shiitam and a tarah so to wife.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: Or do we see that?
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: The symptom says, as we saw yesterday, Zois Tirasa Behema the oif.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: So the hakish between behema and iif which should teach me that if should need shritah just like a behemah.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: And says the gemara, yeah.
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: But ox se vishhafach is dhamai, but it says by an oif, and that's why we darshen before.
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: Shadiah, who said to take those words of and use it to teach me about an oif that it doesn't need shaithah.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: Maybe I should use it for chayah by the same token.
- 2:43SPEAKER_00: It says gumar, mistabra, mishum the salakminah.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: It makes more sense.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna use it on one, even though it says it in the inun of both ifis and chaas.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: Since it's haud the salakminah, it's mishum de salakminah, that's the one it's coming off of.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: If you look in the positive, it says oif, and then there's a smikas of oif, then it says vishafach, not oif and then, not uh chaya than vishaf.
- 3:01SPEAKER_00: It says oif and then vishaf too.
- 3:02SPEAKER_00: Which teaches me if I had to apply the dinner vishafah, which teaches me you don't need shahitah, masagi, it makes more sense to apply it to an oythimin mesnabil dam bimalika.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: Someone who does shritah and it became an available in his hand, meaning he did it the wrong way.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: Or someone who's noir maaker, he does these other psulim poter milchasas.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: There's no kishadam because kisa'dam is only by a good shiita.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: If you do a good shiit, yeah, throwing the good shiita no.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: And if you're gonna tell me that there's no shait aloe manataira, I mean that right, so you don't need to do sharkita to a bird, then the kira says do iskitah.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: Then why if you did naqira, it's gonna be uh you're not gonna be hive in Kisa Adam.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: If it's not machiv in Shit Minatira, then even Nikhira, however you got, however you killed it, even if it wasn't a kosher shit, that was it's shit, because it doesn't need a kosher shita.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: So however you killed it, that was a shita.
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: Now when it's dumb spilled out, since that was the way to kill it, now you have an allah of Kisadam.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: So they buy Kisui.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: You shouldn't need Kisa.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: It says to B Aif, why are you assuming that that bright that we just quoted is talking about eifas?
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: Noi bhachaya, we're talking about a chaya, and that's not a chaya, and the only reason if you killed it, shaloya yedeh shitrah, you're not gonna have to do kiziyadam is because it needs a shitak shera, so it's a chaya.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: But by a oif, I would tell you, even if you didn't, you're still gonna need kisadam because it doesn't need a shachitakshera.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: So however you got it, zuhi shkitasai, then you're gonna need kisuyadam.
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: So that's the game of toss.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: Oh, try to bring another ri.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: Shaykhit bitzarhadam.
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: Someone who shachts, but he shachts and he needs the blood.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: He wants to use the blood.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: So how do you do it?
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: How are you supposed to shecht but also keep the blood?
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: What's the problem?
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: Because you have a loch of kisuyadam.
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: You have to cover it with offer, and by that point you're not gonna have the dam anymore.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: So shach bitsrachodam, khad al-chasas, mikamakum, you have to do kiseyadam, not an option, even if you want the blood, I'm very sorry, you still have to do kisadam.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: Kitsurai, so what should you do?
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: So I know, I either meaning passle it up, either do uh nkira or akira, which is one of the psulim, and therefore it's not gonna be a kashur shiita, and you're gonna be able to keep the dam and not do kisadam.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: Aren't we talking about an iPhone l uh layinih?
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: Why would you mean why would we assume that we're talking about uh shachting an oif improperly?
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: Because if you need the dam for something, it's probably the dam of an if.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: Because that's something that I could think about that you would possibly need the blood from a bird.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Because that was used sometimes lian nicha.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: Rashi says um that was for a moth or whatever it was.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: There was a purpose for this dam, and therefore, what do we see from here?
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: We see if it was done sheloya yideh shita k shaira, it doesn't need kiseadam because it wasn't done properly.
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: So obviously it needs shita minataira.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: So the gimara loi bihaya.
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: I can really tell you it's talking about a chaya If some of a chaya, why would you want the blood of a chaya?
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: I never heard of such a purpose.
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: There actually is something we we could use the dam from a chaya for, and that's for different types of red dyes, and that is something that was used, and therefore, there's no hechir to say that the Bryce is talking about only an oif, which would be a raya that is shit loif.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: The question at hand is Shitas Oif, Mid A Raisa or Midaban.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: Toshma will bring a raya.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: Malak Besakin.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: Someone who does melika with a knife.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: No, that's not the way to do Malika.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: The way to do Malika is with your finger now, from the back, from the mafrekis.
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: But he did Malika with a sakin.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: So Metame Begodama Ba Sablia.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: The aloho is it has Tumas Nevelo.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: And oif, we know a special Tuma of Tumas Baysablyo, as you're swallowing it.
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: So it's considered a Navelo now that it's gonna be Metame Begodama Ba Sablyo.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: What's the question?
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: The question's like this.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: Then even so, says the Braza, even so says the I don't care that when you went in from the back with the knife, again, if you went in from the back, you broke the you broke the shedra, the spine, and the mafrekas, right?
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: So you definitely made it a trefa before any kashra shita.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: So even though you broke the shedra and the trepa and uh and the mafrekas, which makes it into a trepa, still it shouldn't have tomas nevela.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: Because to Hanile sakin metara me denivela, because the sakin that you use to schecht it from the back should be metarit me dun to tomas nevela.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: And the way Rashi explains is because a trepa, even if the animal was a trepa, and this animal is for short trepa, you broke the mafrekas, you broke the spine, you came in from the back, it's for sure trepa.
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: But even a trepa's a trashida of trepah the sheshot in a metame, a trepa that you did shita on, it doesn't have tomas nevela.
- 7:12SPEAKER_00: And then for this one, even though coming from the back is not gonna be a kashra shita, because we know it might be a kashra Malika if you used your finger, but it's not uh it's not a kasra shita because that has to be done from the tzaba.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: There's different things, and from the back, by the way, you're gonna have other problems.
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: Rash explains oh, Drasah and Khalada, you're gonna have other problems that it's not gonna be a good shita.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: But if you're gonna tell me ain't shita laymanatira, then what would be considered the shriitah Bitimimatara this time?
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: Midin Thomas Navela.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: Anything, anyway that you kill it.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: So I don't care that you did Drasa or Halada.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: I don't care about Allah Smash Mesina because it doesn't have Shita Saiyt Mataira.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have Shita Sai Manatara, it definitely doesn't come along with the Allah Mashimisina Psulim about uh Dras and Halada that would possibly passle this, and that's why I don't even mind if you had those psulim.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: If Ain's Shita Lai Minatara, which means what?
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: Which means you did it with a knife, even though it was a trefa, you broke through the mafrakas and it's mine, it should still be Metara Middin Lavelah is the first words in Rashi.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: Because if you shakted a trefa, it's not Metama anymore.
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: So why is this gonna be Metame Begadim Abe Sablia?
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: If Ain's Shita Lai Minatira, it should be considered enough of a Shita.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: If it doesn't really need a Shita, then anyway you killed it, it should be mighty midin Tamas Navela.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: So why does it still have Tamas Navela?
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: It must be because it's an action vela, because you did not do Shita, because it's a back shita and it needs shita.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: Minataira says the Gemara, and that's why the Gemara just says, Tanila Sakha Matara Midnavela, it should be Matare.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: So this is a rayah.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: The Gemara doesn't knock this off.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: This is actually a rayoff.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: That Yesh Shitas Yesh Shita Saif Minatairo, that it actually is a dinner the race of Shita Sa'aif, and that's why it's gonna have Thomas Navela since you did it from the back.
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: That's not the normal way, it comes along with it.
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a Postal Shita, which makes it into a Nevela, and that's why it's going to have Tomas Navela.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: So this is a raya.
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: So sazigamar, is this a raya against the Shita?
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: That says that Ain't Shitalai Minatara, as we started off today, that Amr Abhishumer Bitzuk, a Menpinchas, Ain't Lishita, uh Ain't Shita Salai Minatara, it's not me the Raisa.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: I just brought you a Braisa that it is.
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: You found one Tana that holds that Shita Saif is the Raisa, but you should know it's a Machleikas Tanaim.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: And if it's a Mahleikas Tanaim, then the Mara we started off with Rebuudam Ishumer Yitzhimpinhas, very good, has someone to rely on.
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: Here you have a Braissa against him, but he'll bring you another Tana, who the Amar Kiaitana.
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: He that says that Shita Saif is not Minatara, because he says, like the other Tana, I have another Tana for you, and it's actually a big Machikas Tenoim.
- 9:29SPEAKER_00: Whether Sheita Saivan is a Manatara or not, what's the other Tana?
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: Did Tani with the Braiser Blazera Kapper Rebi Mer, Blazera Kapper, the son of Rebbi.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: Say, Matam Lambert's shot in the Pasuk.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: Ach kasher Yoichalesa Tsvi, Vesayo, the gun, right?
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: So this pasik is as it relates to Psuleam Gudashim.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: Sulam Gudashim, again, the animal was catshim, I got a mum, you're gonna be poidet.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: Now you can eat it.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: And the pasik says you can eat it, like you eat the tsweev and the ayo.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: It's giving you like an example, just like a tswee and ayo.
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: Now, even though this was katshim, it got a mum, you were poid it.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: Now you can eat a mamish like a tswe and a ayo.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: The chimalam denim it's meva ayo.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: What are we learning?
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: Thank you for the example of something you're able to eat.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: What is the pasuk teaching us from Svi the Ayo?
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: Meyata from here.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: Hariza Balilameid Vinim Salama.
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: It says the bride saw this came to teach you something, right?
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: Because it was the example the Tatar gave.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: Kitsvich Ayo.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: So it came to teach you.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: You could eat it just like a tsviva'a vanimsalama.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: And it really turns out that that's the thing we're learning, too.
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: The ikhar over here, the ikr liman over here is from the tsviya and the ayo.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: We're learning something about them.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: That what?
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: Makris tsvila ayo ay the psula mguddashim.
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: It's makersh there's a hackage between the tsviana ayo to the psula mugdash.
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: That what?
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: Ma psula mguddash and bishkita.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: Just like sulamagdashim needs kita, a tsviva ayo bishhita.
- 10:33SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's not the main point yet.
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: What's the main point?
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: The if ein loishita midvretaira, element the vere sever in the first rhizo.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: As it relates to an ip, though, that's as it relates to us, uh tsviana ayo, otherwise known as khyos.
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: So they need shita la ifmenataira.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: However, as relates to oythois, ein loy shita mid the vai tarif, it's only a dindarabanan, because they don't have the hekish.
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: So this is the tana that Rebitzhuk ben Pinchas was going like that says, Ain't Shita Lo'aif Mena Tara.
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: So right now what do we have?
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: A Machakistanaim.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: One manam that says to Shach the bird, it's actually a Dindara.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: So you have to Shaht it.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: According to this Sheetah it's only the Rabbanan.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: Who is the Tanah that argues on Rebelezer on Rebelezar a Kapr Berebi, the son of Rebi?
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: Interestingly, Rebihi.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: It's his father, Rebbi.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: Rebbi is the Sheetah that holds that Yesh Shit Yesh Shita Saiyana Tara, the Tanya.
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: Where do we see Rebbi's uh Sheetah Rebi, oimer vizavahto, kashrettibsicha?
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: It says vizavahta and close by kashir tsibisih.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: So it says vizavahto, which means you should schecht your animals.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: Kashir Tsivisicha, exactly how I commanded you.
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: Now we know Hulin already a little bit, at least the beginning.
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: And we know that the Tara doesn't say explicitly where to do the shrita and how to do the shit.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: We had a whole daff yesterday.
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's on the ear, maybe it's on this.
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: This tara doesn't tell you to shacht it on the neck.
- 11:46SPEAKER_00: So what do you mean, zizvachto, kashir tivisikha?
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: Just like I commanded you.
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: So obviously we know there's a lot of Allah Smash Mesina.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: So Kashar Tsivisicho in the Tara, before it's in the Tara, is talking about Allah Mashimesina.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: Kashir Tv Siko, like I commanded you, Mysha.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: Yet that's how you have to do Shita.
- 12:00SPEAKER_00: And even though it's not written in the Tarah, Kashir Tvizich, like the way we have an Allah Mash Mesina.
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: Shinitztav Mysha Allah Veshet Bala Konah Val Riv Echad Ba'aif.
- 12:09SPEAKER_00: That's the main point.
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: That teaches us that Allah Mashamasina, that's what the Pasik is talking about.
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: That a Qurish Baruch told Mysha, and this is Allah Mash Mesina, it's a din day raisilla about the Veshet and the Ka'nah.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: And as it relates to an Aif, Roj Bachad Baiif, you only need one of them, Raiv of one of them, I know.
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: About Riv Sha'i'ma Behema and Raiv of two by a Behemah.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: What do we see clearly over here?
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: This is Sheita Srabi who holds this straight up Allah Mashimissina, which makes it obviously Dai Raisa.
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: About also Raivachad Baif.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: That Iif was included in this alacha.
- 12:43SPEAKER_00: So this is Sheetah Srabi, that Sheita Sa'aif is going to be me da Ira So.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: Achad ba'i.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: So going back to the Mishnah where we saw that how many of the Simonim do you have to do by a oif?
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: So we saw we know the difference.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: By behema you have to do two and ruba shalakhar to myus.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: So ruba kakulay, as long as it did rival of two, it's gonna be good enough.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: And also by oifus you have to do not two but one.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: And by the way, ruba kakulah.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: So riva one is also gonna be okay, says the gemara.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: Itmar, we'll set over like this.
- 13:06SPEAKER_00: Rem Nachman armor nachman says, Oi Veshad Icana.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: As relates to the one semen that you have to cut by the if.
- 13:12SPEAKER_00: Do we care which one?
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: The kana, the veshet, or can it be either?
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: Says the gemara, says Rem Nachman, Oi Veshana, doesn't matter which one.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: Either the Veshet or the Kana, either the sapphagus or the trachea, it doesn't make a difference.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: Ravataba Hava omar veshla icon, only the vesha and not the kana.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: The one you have to do by the oifice is specifically the veshet and not the kana.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: Ravnachman omar oyveshada icana, why echar kitani?
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: Because it says echur, right?
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: And the right so.
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: And echod hodu.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: Echan means either one.
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: There's no paidah on dafka the veshed, and therefore it could be the veshid or the con.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: Ravatbahava omar veshab icon.
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: Why do you how do how does he know it's specifically the veshrud and not the cona?
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: Because my echod, what does it mean?
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: Echor?
- 13:45SPEAKER_00: Miyuchud.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: It means the miyuchad one, the more important one of the simonim.
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: Now, why is the veshet the more important one of the simonim?
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: Zaktrashi.
- 13:53SPEAKER_00: Because miuchibasimanimu shachayas the behemoth toly boy.
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: Because the chhais of the behemoth is tolly on the vesh, the abnekebash mitrafa.
- 14:00SPEAKER_00: Because we know that there's a difference in a lach between between a hole in the nekev, uh a hole in the a nekev in the in the nekev in the connec.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: The kon can be even chatzi kone pogam.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: It could be half of the half of it can be pogam, and it's still gonna be not fiatrefa.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: So we see the animal doesn't rely.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: It's chhius isn't as tolly in the khan itself, whereas the nekev, afilum, whereas the the veshet, afilu, afilu nekev bimashu, even the tiniest hole is gonna render it trefa, which means it's much more important for the animal.
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: Even the tiniest hole in the vesh is gonna render it a trefa.
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: So that's the more miyucha, that's the more shahsa behemoth, and that's why that's the one Revnachman picks.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Says the gim, or rather sorry, that was Rabat Baraba.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: Rabad Baraba echod miuchad, because the Miyuch is Rashi just explained.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: Simon.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: Shakhat Khatsoin Gargeris Pgima, the chatas oi.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: Shokhatash, Vakah, Nishmitta Gargeras.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: We saw this already.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: If you shachta the bashet, and then the gargeris, the cone, it was Nishmitta went out of place.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: The alofa isher.
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be kosher.
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Because at the time that you did the shit of the one simon, that was a good shit, shit's like, it was good.
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: It only went out of place afterwards, no problem.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: Nishmitta garger's shachad.
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: What if it came out of place before you did the shit?
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: Then psu, it's gonna be puzzle because it was a trefa before you shachted it.
- 15:12SPEAKER_00: It went out of place before you shachted it.
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: Shochada esavesh, if you shachated the bash of the nims, garges shmuta, then you found that the garges was already dislocated.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: So it was a trefa.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: Im the akashkita nish, so it's not a problem.
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: You don't know when it happened.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: Zdehaya Maya was the vice of Amra, and they said call suffak bishita psal.
- 15:27SPEAKER_00: It's a suffig and shit, it's gonna be puzzles.
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: We know because it's a chask that it's not shakhat, etc.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: Whatever the reason is.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: The point is that call savag Bishkita Psula is gonna be a problem.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: What's the point of this whole Bryce that we want to bring?
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: Vilushitabargeris Lakitani.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: Every example we said was Shokhar Saveshet, and then you found the Gargaris.
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: Shokhar Savesh, and the Gargaris already had a problem.
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: But what were you Shechting the whole time in the Bryce of the Veshet, not the Gargeras?
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: Vilush Vilu Gargeras, or rather, Vilushkita Bagargeris Likatoni doesn't say anything about shachting the Gargaris.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: So it sounds like you have to shecht the Veshet, says the Gamar.
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: No.
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: Mishom the Gargeras Avidulishamute.
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: It's just Balabatish.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: The Gargeris is something more common to be dislocated.
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: So if you know how the animal works, you know that the Gargeris, that's much more common to be dislocated, and that's why that's the case we're talking about, where you shafted the Veshet, and then you saw that the Gargeras was dislocated.
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: But it wouldn't have been common to say that you shachhted the gargeres or the khan, and then the veshet was dislocated.
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: That doesn't really happen, and that's why the example was what we gave.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: But it wasn't to tell you anything about specifically the Veshet you have to shaft and nothing else.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: Doesn't you want to touch my try to bring you another I uh Shochni Khatsoy Simani by?
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: Wait, if you shafted two of the Simani by a knife, but only half of each.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: Half of each, that's gonna be possible.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: Obviously, why?
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: Because you need you need one, you don't need two, but you need ruboy shaftikumal.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: You need at least rev of one.
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: But here you have half of two, which is not right of any of them.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: Okay, but Insarchlamer and Vade by Behemah, it's gonna be a problem.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: What's Vade by Behemah?
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: Because you would think that half of each equals one, and maybe one by enough is good.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: Obviously, that's so it's uh teaching you not that way.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: No, but if you need mamesh rev of one or the whole thing of one, you can't have uh 0.5 plus 0.5 equal two.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: As it relates to a behema, behema that needs reviv shr'im, obviously, by behema.
- 17:03SPEAKER_00: You don't even have half plus half equals one.
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: Well, even even if you had that, even if that would be good, it's not enough because you need you need two simone by a behema.
- 17:10SPEAKER_00: So it says obviously by behim, that's gonna be a problem.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: Whereas the hudaimer, but she ishchit as a veshet, besavred.
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: By an eif, you have to specifically shek the veshet and the vriddin.
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: We saw Shikh's Rebueda, we're gonna go into it on another base.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: That Ribuda has a shetha that you have to shek these veins also, the vriddin.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: We're gonna see if that's meant in shit or if it's just meant in Dham.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: But the point is, now what does Ributa say?
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: You have to shach specifically the Vashet.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: So it seems that you have to Shech the Vashed, Rai and Sir Mnachmann, that says you could shach either one.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: So the Gemar Misham, the Veshet Samah Vriddin.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: No, it's just an example that he brought.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: He said the Vashed and the Vriddin, why?
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: Because his main point over here is that you also have to shach the Vriddin, the veins.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: And it happens to be the Veshed is near the veins.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: That's why we said the Vesh and the Vriddin.
- 17:50SPEAKER_00: But no khana, if you figure out a way to shek the connah and the vriddin, that's also gonna be good according to the Biuddah, and we could really just knock it off.
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: Says the Gomar, uh Toshma, I'll bring another right.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: Uh Shachad Hati Gargeras Vishok.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: Vishokadeshita Hheras.
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: The Gomar Shitash.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: If you shach did half of the Khan, and then you did the Psol of Shehiya.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: Vishokadeshita Hares.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: You waited and it was a psol of shiya.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: The gomar shitase, and then you finish the shita cherah.
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be kasher.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: My lab oif, my gamra, gamer the gargeris.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: Isn't this talking about an oif?
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: And what does gamra mean?
- 18:21SPEAKER_00: What do you mean that you finished it?
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: You finished the gargeres, and what do we see over here that we're talking about, meaning we're telling you a special khiddlah, this is gonna be okay, but the point is that you're finishing off only the gargeres, and it's gonna be okay.
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: So, what do we see?
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: That only the kanes is okay.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: Either or maybe like Riven Achman says, like, behemo, my gumra gamha shkita kula.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: No, first of all, we're talking about a behema.
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: Second of all, uh Gamra finishing it off means you finish the whole shita, not just you finished that simen, and therefore not a right at all.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: Tashma bring another ayahua.
- 18:50SPEAKER_00: If you have half of the khan that's already pogam, half of the kana already had a hole in it, which we saw before is not a problem.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: Only if right of the kana has a hole in it is a problem.
- 18:57SPEAKER_00: The tiniest hole by the vest is gonna be a problem.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: But half chatikana pogam, not a problem.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: Vihois Villaf Koshua, then you continued with your shita, or you started your shita in that place of the neck and in the kana, and it already was cut through half.
- 19:09SPEAKER_00: You mamash made it rife, and you cut through, and that was your shita vigamra shita sik shera.
- 19:13SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a kashra shita.
- 19:14SPEAKER_00: So says the gamara, what'd you just do here?
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: You literally just cut, continued cutting, you made the hole in the kana bigger, and now it's gonna be a kashrashita.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: I thought we have to do only the Veshad, according to uh I think it was around the barama, right?
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: So uh uh so it's a rayah, says the Gemara.
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: My lava oif or my gum, the gummar the kane.
- 19:31SPEAKER_00: Aren't we talking about an if?
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: And what does gumra that you finished it off mean?
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: Gumr the khan, you finished the kanh, mean the kana itself is okay, and you don't need to do davka the the veshid that gumnachon said, says the gumara.
- 19:42SPEAKER_00: It means by and gumra gaming the veshed as well.
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: You finish the veshed, you finish both of them, and it's not specifically a raya that uh you don't have to uh you don't have to shek the veshed by an if.
- 19:52SPEAKER_00: Tashma I'll try again.
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: Kitsan mokin chatas'.
- 19:56SPEAKER_00: How do you do Malika by Khatasai?
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: Hoytichedro, umafrekes, beloirabasar.
- 20:01SPEAKER_00: The way to do it is you have to like cut through the spine and the mafrekas, the back the neck bone, beloira basar, without cutting rival the basar, oil kana.
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: Until you get to the vesht or to the kone, we're talking about oich.
- 20:13SPEAKER_00: Until you get to the vesh or to the cone, he gia levesht, oil kana.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: The very so spells it out again.
- 20:18SPEAKER_00: If you get to the vesh or the kone, seminachan, virai, basar ima, you sh you you you cut one of the simonim, virai basar imai, and most of us are with it.
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: Uba'i, by the way, that's a chatasaif as related to ailasaif, sni'im or sniff.
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: That's a special alach as relates to ailasaif.
- 20:34SPEAKER_00: You need sni'im or riv snih, like a behema.
- 20:35SPEAKER_00: But the point is, what do we see over here?
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: Now we're talking about a chat as'aif, and you clear the braisin clearly said either or kon' or the veshid.
- 20:41SPEAKER_00: When you get to one of them, kana or the veshid, doesn't matter, just do one of them, you'll be good to go.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: Rayatar of Nachman, who said that Oi Kona, Oi Veshid, either one is gonna be good enough.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara on that note, this is Mefur, says Bryce, and therefore Tiyuftah the Ravada Barava, Tiyufta, which means checkmate, closed case, this is a me'fursha Rai against Ravada Barah that said you need Dapka the Vesha.
- 21:01SPEAKER_00: The Bryce clearly said, or the Veshad or the Khan is gonna be good enough.
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: Raya Tir of Nachman, Tiufta against Ravada Barava, says the Gamara, Mahavi Allah.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: Okay, so what's the aloha?
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, what comes out?
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: Maihave Allah?
- 21:11SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, Maihavalah you're asking my Have Allah?
- 21:13SPEAKER_00: Kidakamrith, we just said Tiufta Dervada Barahava Tiyufta.
- 21:16SPEAKER_00: Doesn't get more closed cut than that.
- 21:17SPEAKER_00: We just slugged them up.
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: So obviously the alloh is a game nachman.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara and all.
- 21:21SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you why, because it wasn't really a Tiufta.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: You have to know what the May Kara Maikasava or the Basaif Mikasava according to the Gemaro.
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: But over here, it really wasn't uh you could ask a question on uh you could really knock off this rayo.
- 21:31SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 21:31SPEAKER_00: Because Domashani Hasan Dika Shed Mafrekas.
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: Over there, if you look closely, we're talking about Malika.
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: We're not talking about regular sita soy.
- 21:37SPEAKER_00: So maybe only over there, since you're in a matsuva Malika, where how do how do you do Malika by Hatzasai?
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: You break through the spine and the mafrekas.
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: So this animal is done already, right?
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: You broke through the spine and the mafrekas, it's all a mess.
- 21:49SPEAKER_00: This animal's mom is destroyed.
- 21:50SPEAKER_00: And therefore, if it's already destroyed, so maybe over there it's okay that Epis, you only need the Kana.
- 21:56SPEAKER_00: You only need to just get the Kana, which is as we be as we saw before, less.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Of the khias of the aif is totally in the connah.
- 22:02SPEAKER_00: The chiyas of the if is totally in the bashit, as we saw.
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: So maybe by regular shritah where you didn't really harm this animal yet.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: So to get it, for it to be a good shrita, you need to get the veshid, like adabrava said.
- 22:12SPEAKER_00: But as it relates to this case, why did we tell you either or?
- 22:14SPEAKER_00: Because you're already your mamash almost severed everything by this animal.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: You broke through the spine, you broke through the mafrekas, and therefore the animal doesn't have much left.
- 22:23SPEAKER_00: So maybe the kana in this situation is gonna be good enough.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: As it relates to a regular situation, maybe the alhafa is like Rabadharahava that you have to dafka get the veshhed.
- 22:30SPEAKER_00: And in this case, it's not gonna be good enough to dafka get the veshid.
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: Or rather, it's gonna be good enough to get dafka the kanah, even though the kana is of a lesser value over here towards the khiz animal.
- 22:39SPEAKER_00: Says the gumara mai.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: So again, my we're back to square one because we saw we thought we had a tiufta to the rabbarava tifta.
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: And then we said my ab alma, my avallah, what are you talking about?
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: Tiyfta.
- 22:47SPEAKER_00: No, we knocked it off.
- 22:47SPEAKER_00: This is hard to say not.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: So my, so what's the aloha?
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: What does it come out?
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: So the maratashma, I'll bring you a different ray.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: There was a dock.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: The Havabay Rav that was in the um in the area of Rav.
- 22:58SPEAKER_00: He was in the house of Rav.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: Also kim Mas Miskui.
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: So he walked in one day, this duck, and his neck was bleeding.
- 23:04SPEAKER_00: So obviously there was a race, uh, that this animal something had this this duck something happened to it, but we want to know.
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: So I'm Rabahin Ab.
- 23:11SPEAKER_00: Rabba said, what should we do over here?
- 23:12SPEAKER_00: Nishkite Bad Nivdeke.
- 23:14SPEAKER_00: So what should we do?
- 23:14SPEAKER_00: Meaning, can we use this uh duck for shita?
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: Can we shacht it?
- 23:17SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be okay?
- 23:18SPEAKER_00: Now regular, now a regular duck, you don't really have to be high shish for anything, right?
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: Because rife animals are not trefus.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: As it relates to this duck though, there's a clear race of blood coming from its neck, and therefore you have to be highisheshmore.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: That's right over here.
- 23:29SPEAKER_00: So Nishktebah Nivdeke, should we first shachhted and then do the badikas like you would normally do?
- 23:34SPEAKER_00: That you that wouldn't suffice suffice over here.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: Although normally that's okay.
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: Over here you have a reason.
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: But Dilma Bemak Bimakim Nekev Keshachid.
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: Over here you should be khaichish, then maybe you dafkas shachtid bimakim nekev.
- 23:44SPEAKER_00: So even if you check it afterwards and find that it's okay, maybe the nekiv was dafka in the place that you shachtid.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: Meaning and again, we don't have this by regular cases, but over here there was a clear reason.
- 23:54SPEAKER_00: So maybe we have this shah.
- 23:55SPEAKER_00: Nimdekabhanah, we check it first, whatever we can check from the outside.
- 23:59SPEAKER_00: And then shachhted.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: And therefore you're not that's just not a possibility to check it before the shit.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: So what are you supposed to do?
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: So Amal Ruby said, Berey.
- 24:13SPEAKER_00: So Ruby said his son told him, Niddeke Lekone, Vinishkite.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: Vinishkhet, Vil what should you do?
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Niddeke Lakona, you should check the kone first.
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: Okay, what does that mean?
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: Because Khana you can check from the outside.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: You can check a mibachut.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: As relates to the Vashit, you can check it from Mibachutz as we just saw.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: But as relates to the Khana, there is a way to check it from the Khutz.
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: So what you should do is Ruby's said, Niddeke Lakana, you should check the Kona Mibochut.
- 24:36SPEAKER_00: Vinishchteilakana, and then Shecht which simen?
- 24:41SPEAKER_00: And meaning that's gonna be the kosher shit by Shechting the Khanah the Hodar, Rafhua the Veshet Vildi Kh, and then open it up without touching the Veshet and check the Veshet.
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: Check if it had a pogimo.
- 24:53SPEAKER_00: If the Veshet had a neka, then you know that's why it was dripping blood and it was a trafe, and you'll have a problem.
- 24:57SPEAKER_00: If the veshet is clean, then you're not gonna have a problem.
- 25:00SPEAKER_00: And that's that's what you have to do.
- 25:03SPEAKER_00: What do we clearly see from here, by the way?
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: That's the that you that there's no problem with just shafting the kana, meaning you could shekt either one, which is a clear riat to Rab Nachman, and now we're back to the Tiofta de Rada Baraba.
- 25:12SPEAKER_00: Tiyofta, this is back of the Tiyfta de Rabada Brahva.
- 25:14SPEAKER_00: But either way, Omar Rabar Rabba said, Hakim Yoisiv Bari, Rubysef, my son, is very smart with Trefas, and he's he knows Trefis backwards and forwards, Kerbychin, just like a byachin.
- 25:23SPEAKER_00: Almoh what do we see from here?
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: As we just spoke out, echo the kamar.
- 25:26SPEAKER_00: One that we said before, oy hai, oy hai means either or, and that's why in this case of the of the duck that had a bloody neck, the way we were able to get out of it was again just to shach the khana, and that's gonna be good enough.
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: So clearly we see either or.
- 25:41SPEAKER_00: You don't have to dafka get the veshet like Rada Bharavat said, but rather you need either the Khana or the Veshhat, just like Rib Nachman and Allah is gonna be like Ribn Nachman.
- 25:50SPEAKER_00: And maybe we'll just hold it here because it's gonna go to the bottom.
- 25:53SPEAKER_00: This is Rabbi Huda Bata Vriddin.
- 25:55SPEAKER_00: Why do you have to shach the Vridim?
- 25:56SPEAKER_00: It's gonna come out because of Dam, not because of Shita, really to be Mahakhri and Pramad Dam, but either way good shut up.