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Jordan Davis- The Smoking Pastor Project | Barbecue is Soul Food · BBQ Therapy

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You're not just feeding people's stomachs, you're feeding
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dignity. How do you think BBQ gives
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people hope in ways words can't sometimes?
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Yeah, and that's something that we pride ourselves on.
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There's not much I say I have pride on, but we offer our best
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quality food to everybody. I had a late today to write an
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article about something we're doing and she's.
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You mean you just put brisket in the food pantry?
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I'm like, heck yeah. And she's, wait a minute, didn't
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brisket like 699 a pound Right now I'm like, Yep.
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And I spent 24 hours cooking it and I put $20 a seat and go
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through the whole thing and she's nobody else does that.
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I said exactly. That's what sets us apart from
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anybody else. We're offering our best
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the message because growth, like good BBQ, takes time and
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patience. Welcome to your therapy session.
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Welcome to the BBQ Therapy podcast.
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My name is Tavis Bryant, and today we're talking about more
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than BBQ. We're talking about purpose
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through pain, grace through grit, and how one man turned the
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smoker into a ministry. My guest is Pastor Jordan Davis,
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the founder of the Smoke and Pasture Project, a movement that
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feeds the body and the soul. He's giving away free food,
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brought hope to strangers, and lived through a test that would
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have broken most folks. Jordan, welcome to barbecue
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therapy. I got one rule.
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Make yourself at home. All right.
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Thanks for having me, man. I'm excited.
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And the first question I got for you, let's take it back.
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From what I heard, you were originally from Texas, correct?
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Yes, I was. I was actually born in Kentucky
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and then we moved from a little podunk town in Eastern KY to
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Houston, TX. So big time culture shock.
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I lived there for a while and man, my dad worked for Shell Oil
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there. And so we were there for a while
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and then moved back to Kentucky and then I moved to Oklahoma.
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I've been all around but them. Texas.
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That Texas BBQ root took early phase in my life.
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And you're in Indiana right now. I'm in, yeah.
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I'm just on the north side of Indianapolis.
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How did you end up in Indianapolis?
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Church man, God, Oh my God. We were in Oklahoma City and I
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was not at a church. I've been a kids master 20 years
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and I was not at a church and I was just working, helping a
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friend do some construction stuff.
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And this church kept calling and calling and I kept hanging up on
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them. Didn't want anything to do and
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man, God had other plans. And about six months later I
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found myself in Indianapolis. So that's the way God works.
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How did that conversation go with the wife?
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She's so we're very comfortable here.
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And I said, yeah, but our whole lives God has allowed us not to
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be comfortable and here we are again.
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That's like segues to today. When you were growing up, did
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you BBQ a lot or did your family BBQ?
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How did you learn? We ate a heck of a lot of BBQ.
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We ate that was like our Sunday thing, like a name you
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restaurant for restaurant Katy, TX, man, that was our Sunday
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spots going to barbecue. And then my dad did a lot of
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grilling, a lot of grilling and he always made this BBQ sauce
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that we all love. I still cannot perfect it to
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this day. He just makes it better than me.
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But it's like not a sauce I could ever bottle.
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Like we bottle sauce, we sell sauce, but it's got sauteed
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onions in it, like big chunks of sauteed onions.
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Really good on chicken, really good on chicken.
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And it's one of those things like you never bottle it, but
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man, it's good homemade sauce. And just that was like our way
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to connect to my family. My dad, super big engineer, I'm
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not that smart of a dude. And so like we always try to
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figure out like where we could bond.
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And so a lot of us do outdoor cooking.
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And then my mom same way, just always cooked.
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And so cooking was in me very early and then it moved into
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barbecue and then went away for a little bit.
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And I found myself man shoot even 9 years ago, I don't think
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I owned a smoker or a grill and then came back about 8 years ago
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so. Then once you join the church
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where you're cooking for the church, how did you get back
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into it? Started started cooking for the
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church I bought, man. So not let's see, eight years
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ago I bought a smoker on Facebook marketplace.
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I was like, man, I got to get back into this and bought a
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smoker on marketplace, started cooking food and at the church,
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started doing a lot of the church.
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And then that evolved into two smokers, 3 smokers, 5 smokers, 9
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smokers at one point is what I had in my backyard and that was
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just feeding people and my wife's man, this could be a cool
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business. Maybe a little side hustle
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during COVID, especially like everybody's trying to find that
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side hustle. And man, I just started giving
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it away. I'm like, man, I'm not a
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businessman. I don't want to make money.
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I want to make people happy. I want to craft smiles one bite
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at a time. That's what we do.
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And I started posting videos and then those videos just have
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taken off. And I spent some time in the
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hospital with COVID and really re evaluated what I was doing,
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my purpose for life, and found that video sequence is what God
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was really using to just proclaim his name to the public.
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And you were a youth pastor, kids.
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Man children so birth through 3rd grade is what I've done for
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20 years. Wow.
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And the whole time, like, how long were you a youth pastor?
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So 2020 years, 21 years this year.
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So I'm still technically full time until March, March.
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So I'm stair stepping down out of my full time role right now
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and moving into this nonprofit world.
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Oh wow, that's excellent. So when the food truck I guess
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did, did you still try to sell as well as giveaway or did you
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we? We tried to run the food truck
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as a free food truck, was the plan.
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About a year and a half ago we were given a free food truck and
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to work. We're going to pay it off over
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time and Labor Day weekend last year the whole truck was gone
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$130,000 food trailer. That's what it was estimated at
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was totally stolen. And man, I would, I thought like
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that was going to be the moment one, it got me some publicity.
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I thought, man, this is going to be the moment where this thing
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takes off. God's going to give me like all
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this money. We're going to be able to just
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roll and nothing happened. Nothing.
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And I'm like, wait a minute, God used the all things for glory.
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What's the deal? But what happened is, in
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hindsight now, you always realize what the real story is
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years down the road. But a year later, the food, the
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free food events was what got the vision off the ground for
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me. That's not the thing.
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And so I really wrestled for the last, like, year of what is the
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thing? What are we supposed to be
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doing? What's this look like?
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And one day I'm in a group with some guys and they're like
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Jordan, like, if you could just dream big, what would you do?
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And I said, I want to be the largest producer of fully cooked
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prepackaged meat for food pantries.
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And they're like, where did that come from?
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And I'm like, man, I don't know. I don't know where that came
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from, But that's the thing. And so the food trailer getting
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stolen really opened that door to where I figured out the
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thing. Everything else was just a why
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or a how of how we got started. But this is the thing that's
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driving what we're doing in the Smoking Pasture project.
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When did it stop being a hobby and start becoming something
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holy? When did you realize that fire
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wasn't just cooking, it was changing people's lives?
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I think the first event I did where I actually took a smoker
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to the public and realize all these dudes that were pretty
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messed up guys would gather around a smoker and hang out and
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be vulnerable. Oh, have good conversations.
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And I'm like this, there's something here.
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And so that's when I started getting into the BBQ competition
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kind of world, a little bit of, hey, what's it look like for me
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to be able to be this light in this dark community?
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What I love about your story, it wasn't about business first.
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You woke up thinking OK let's serve people and tell me about
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that mindset. Feeding people with 0
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expectation in return because everybody can't do that.
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I mean it. And people look at you.
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Probably like you're. Crazy.
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Yeah, and even people ask me a lot like, how do I do that?
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You've got to make sure your motives are right.
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You just got to be careful. You got to realize that you're
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going to get taken advantage of. And that's OK if your heart's in
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at the right spot. People, I just planned.
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Obviously we're in a time right now where there's lots of things
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happening in our nation, no matter where you're at.
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I'm getting asked to do a lot of events and people are like, how
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are you going to make sure those people really need it?
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I'm not. We're just going to put food on
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the table and not ask any questions.
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And so some people are like, if you can't get over that, you're
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not going to be, you're not going to be happy because you
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will get taken advantage of. But I think for me, realizing
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that I, I'm nothing, God's doing everything and God's providing
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the food and God's going to provide the people that are
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going to show up. Even when I put meat in the food
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pantry, God has ordained that place, that food pantry for me
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to put meat in. And he's going to pick the
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people that are going to come in there.
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And it's nothing. It has nothing to do with me.
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And I think until you get to that spot, like you're going to
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have struggles. But I got to that point where I
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started doing it and I realized this is my passion, this is my
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life goal, this is my legacy. Yeah, and but the thing about
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that is once you do your part, if the other person that comes
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and get it, if they for the wrong motive, that's between
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them and God, not you. And one thing I like about you
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is a lot of people that feed people like homeless and stuff
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like that, they'll force them to sit down, try to preach to them
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and all that before they feed them knowing they hungry.
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So they they feel handcuffed that they got to sit down and
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get religion forced on them. But you do the reverse where you
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just feed them and they know you're a pastor.
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They'll come to you and say, hey, because you touched their
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heart and did something that other people wouldn't do.
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And I love that you do that. That's what like the smoking
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pastor project came about from that like obviously I'm a
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pastor. I love to barbecue, love to
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smoke. Like we just left it simple.
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So it's that been that catchy fun thing on especially on
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social media. People are like what you smoking
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pastor? And I'm like, let me tell you.
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And what it's been fun is we don't like you're 100% right.
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We'll do these big events. We'll feed 1000 people in a
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month and be like, hey, like we never people are people, the
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church people a lot of hate on me.
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You don't get out there and preach and you take it, man, you
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should. You don't know the conversations
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that happen in the background or you don't know the phone calls I
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get late at night from somebody that got fed and wasn't willing
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to open up at that point. But they're like, hey, I know a
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pastor that truly just loves me for who I am.
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And then they reach out. And so there's tons of after
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stories that I mean, we, it would take hours to be able to
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share those with you. These all I can do is cast seeds
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out there and somebody else may water them, somebody else may
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harvest them, but I'm just throwing seeds everywhere I go.
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Because you don't know how they touch their light.
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They don't know where that next meal is coming from.
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And you feel that need. And it may change their life
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forever. And you may be out there to try
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to fix the spiritual need, but until you can fix that physical
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need, that spiritual need is the least of their worries at that
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moment. Because if I don't, if I don't
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have a meal and I don't know where the meal coming from, I'm
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not going to be receiving Christ and I'm going to take it the
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wrong way that you trying to force it on me to give me a
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meal. So Yep, exactly.
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You're doing things right. Tell me a little bit about the
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Free Food Fridays. Yeah, so that's how a lot of
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this popped up is while I was trying to work a full time job,
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while I was trying to do these events.
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Like I was just getting tired, man.
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You know how it is you work a full time job and then you have
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this side hustle. Basically, I'm not making money.
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I'm trying to just put meat on food tables.
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So what we decided is like before the, and this was way
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before the the food pantry stuff of us trying to do fully cooked
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pre packaged meat, we said, we're just going to do free food
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Fridays, one month, one week. It's probably going to be like a
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civil service thing. So we've done a lot of fire
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stations, a lot of police stations, a lot of nursing
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homes, healthcare workers, like any of those kind of people,
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somebody that's out there, teachers, lots of schools.
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And then one week we're just going to go hand out random acts
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of kindness, like to people on the street and they may need it,
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they may not need it, but we're just going to hand out food.
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And so we started doing that. And so that's taking off.
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And then in this time now, even though my focus is gone from
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events, I'm planning 2 free Food Fridays this Friday because this
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it's still the heart of what we're doing.
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When you hand somebody a plate who's had a rough week and who
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maybe didn't know where the next meal was coming out coming from,
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what does it do to you when you see they face and see how they
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light up just because the act of kindness?
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And that's just what changes the heart, man.
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It doesn't get old. And that that goes from it being
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a homeless person on the street to a person that you know can
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afford the food is still that the act of food crosses all
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barriers. And seeing that smile of whether
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they're physically starving to death or they just haven't had
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anybody love on them in a long time, and they may be wealthy.
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It's the act of kindness that only Jesus can do because Jesus
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is changing that heart to that warm food.
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Yeah, but I will say there is nothing else like being in a
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cold spot and handing out food to somebody that's truly cold
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and hungry. And we can at least fix one of
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those. You're not just feeding people's
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stomachs, you're feeding dignity.
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How do you think BBQ gives people hope in ways words can't
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sometime? Yeah, and that's something that
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we pride ourselves on. There's not much I say I have
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pride on, but we offer our best quality food to everybody.
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I had to leave the date is write an article about something we're
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doing and she's. You mean you just put brisket in
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the food pantry? I'm like, heck yeah.
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And she's. Wait a minute, didn't brisket
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like 699 a pound right now? I'm like, Yep.
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And I spent 24 hours cooking it and I put $20 a seat to go
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through the whole thing. And she's nobody else does that.
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I said, exactly. That's what sets us apart from
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anybody else. We're offering our best.
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SO obviously, as this nonprofit is growing, I've had to figure
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out how how to bring money in to keep this thing going.
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And so we do a little bit of catering and we do some high end
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catering. And what I can tell people is
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you may be at that fancy bougie gala, and I want you to know
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that same food I'm giving you on a plate that you're paying a
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budget for, I'm putting that same meat in a food pantry.
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Yeah. We offer people our best.
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Everybody is our neighbor. That's the another problem with
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food pantries because most people give away stuff that's
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laying in a cabinet that they don't want, stuff that's
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expired. Instead of bringing something
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that they would eat, they're giving people anything, which is
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a bad representation because you might as well not do it at all
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if you giving somebody's trash because you it's pretty much
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just looking down on people. Yep, well, that's what and
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that's where this meat thing has really taken hold now of man, if
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I could just tell you stories of the and not knocking any
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company, big name companies that you would know, man, like I'll
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go in a food pantry and it'll look like perforated dog meats.
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What they're sending these food pantries and expecting them to
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do something with it. Like it's let alone that they're
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going to maybe not have the means to cook it and not know
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how to cook it. But now they got to cook
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something that I wouldn't even touch.
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What do you feed to my dog? Like that is the, that's what we
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think of people. Like that's horrible.
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And that's really why people ask why does it have to be cooked
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meat? I can make sure I'm putting a
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quality product on the table and somebody don't have to think
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about cooking it. We talked a lot today about
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we're moving into a little bit of like full meal prep and
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people are like, why are you getting that full meal prep?
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If you get a person off the street that's homeless, they're
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moving into being given a job. The first debate they have
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actually the second debate, the number one is they got to have
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clothes to wear to work. Number 2 is how they're going to
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for lunch every day. And so if we can do those kind
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of things and take that stress off them, then they're truly
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having a rebound time of getting back on their feet.
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That'll motivate them to try to succeed because just giving them
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a piece of meal really ain't doing anything for them because
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vegetables and all this other stuff that that goes with it, it
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means a lot that people have a whole meal and not trying to
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like a lot of people would give them a little portion instead of
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letting people eat and and to their full enjoy themselves and
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be satisfied. Because at the moment with a lot
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of people going through, they need little small things that
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bring joy to them to let them know that people care.
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Let them know that hey, I can make it.
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And by you coming there with your positive attitude and them
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getting stuff like brisket, most of them probably haven't had
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real brisket, not no Texas brisket for sure.
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Last time they had ribs or anything like that.
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And it makes them feel special and not just having hot dogs or
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anything that's just thrown together because it's easy to
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take the easy way out. But what you're doing, it takes
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time to prep that. You got to put a lot of time
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into cooking it, the sides and everything like that.
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And I'm pretty sure you still work a full time job besides
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doing this. And that's what I still get.
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Amazing. The comment you just made, like
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people don't understand the quality part.
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Like we were cooking that thing for the WNBA.
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When WNBA was here in Indy last year, they did a lot of like
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girls skills camps, underprivileged girls skills
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camp. So I went and fed all the girls
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and I miss Sheila, what's her name?
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Miss Chantelle Anderson, big NBA player WNBA.
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She's I'm 6 Ford, that girl, I came to her shoulder.
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I don't know how tall she is. She tall, but she came by and
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she's like, wait a minute, I thought you were just serving
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grilled cheese. And she's like, when we do
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grilled cheese, we're doing Texas toast.
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We're doing three kinds of cheese.
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I'm putting either pulled pork, brisket or chicken on that BBQ
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sauce like garlic butter. We're layering that thing up.
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She's I want one of those. I can't believe this is what the
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quality of what you're giving away for free.
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She goes, I serve downtown on Skid Row.
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Every now and then I see that stuff.
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And that's not what's being served in my homeless community.
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And I'm like, yeah, that's what God has allowed us to do through
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awesome sponsors and donors. That's how we're able to do what
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we're we're doing. And she's so we still stay in
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contact. All because of grilled cheese
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sandwich. That's excellent.
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Let's talk about the trailer being stolen and when that
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happened, how what was your reaction?
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Would you like God? Why me?
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Or did you know this would might have been part of the plan to
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see handle it or I can't. Even it almost is like one of
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those like PTSD blackout moments still for me of I was at an
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event. So the trailer was parked at our
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church, which is like right on a highway, but very secure spot.
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Not in a bad part of town even not great, but not bad.
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And I was doing an event and all of a sudden I just looked up and
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I think I just I was with our youth pastor and I just start
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crying. He's what is wrong.
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I was like, my trailer is gone and I'm just, I was just broken,
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just totally broken. And I think for weeks I thought
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the trailer was going to come back.
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They ended up finding the trailer all chopped up.
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State trooper called me late one night and he's, dude, we've all
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drew straws. Nobody wanted to call you.
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Nobody wanted to call you. And I had to go identify, check
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the numbers, go to the impound lot and the trailer sitting like
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totally sideways, all of it stripped out, nothing left
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inside. And the guys, do you want this?
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I was like, no, I don't want this.
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It's not worth anything to me. And honestly, like I was really
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at a moment, I was not in a good spot spiritually or mentally at
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that point. And it took some weeks to figure
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out. OK, God, like I know you are in
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control. I don't understand this.
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But I also know that if it's my will, the trailer would be, we'd
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be rolling in it right now. So this has got to be your will.
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And I don't understand it, but I'm in it.
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And I think that was the day when everything changed for me.
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OK, God, like I'm not chasing, I'm not chasing my dream.
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I've said a lot that I think for a little while, both in ministry
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over 20 years and in this that I was chasing a platform, not
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obedience. Like there's been a lot of times
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where I'm like, man, I'm just chasing, I'm chasing that 100K
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followers or I'm chasing that whatever.
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And all of a sudden it was like one day I was just like,
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alright, God, like this is your plan.
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I just didn't along for the ride.
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Take me where you want to go. And since then it's been like no
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regrets and the food haven't thought about the trailer a
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bunch like stuff like this brings it up and I'm like, yeah,
19:57
we had it. It's gone like no big deal now,
20:00
but there for a while it was bad.
20:02
And I think now seeing how that. Trailer allowed me to get to a
20:09
step, but also built some networking things that I needed.
20:13
And now I'm still the guy that let us use that trailer.
20:16
I'm still really good friends with him.
20:18
Think about that. That dude loaned us a trailer
20:21
that we were going to pay off in five years.
20:22
Didn't give him a dime. I lost his trailer and we're
20:25
still buddies. That's the only God.
20:27
And from what I heard, I think I heard on another podcast, that
20:30
you went and bought all the supplies again after that
20:34
happened with your own money. With my own money.
20:38
So my wife and I probably today we always laugh because I don't
20:41
do money well of as far as I'm spend our money.
20:44
So I think we're probably we took, we probably spent about 25
20:46
grand of our money to get just aware back where I could do what
20:50
I needed to do. And so we luckily only had one
20:54
small smoker in there and some warmers and we lost a lot of
20:57
knives, a lot of equipment, stuff like base model stuff.
21:01
So it's doing that and then trying to get to that next
21:03
level. We've obviously had to buy more
21:04
and more equipment, but we still are probably 40% funded by the
21:11
public and 60% by us personally. Yeah, that's crazy.
21:16
That's a. Pastor's salary y'all.
21:20
And after that, haven't you entered a BBQ competition and
21:23
won the People's champion? What did that mean?
21:25
Lost everything. That was pretty cool.
21:28
That was the that was one of the moments where it was like, all
21:31
right. And God really showed that that
21:33
day that man, there's part of this that I think at some point,
21:37
I still see a little bit of this every day of, Hey, you're going
21:41
to have fun doing this and I want you to pastor these BBQ
21:43
people. And so that was the day that
21:46
like that turn, it turned from like I say, a job.
21:49
Some of this has been felt like a job.
21:51
Some of it I'm not great at a lot of the scheduling stuff.
21:53
So it's felt like work. That was the day where this is a
21:56
passion and a joy and it brings gives me more joy than anything
21:58
else in life. Yeah, definitely.
22:01
Because like you said, speaking to the BBQ people, just because
22:06
you're out there with the BBQ people, you don't have to do
22:09
what they do. You can have fun without
22:11
drinking, you can have fun without being around cigarettes
22:14
and all that other stuff and not feel awkward or anything.
22:18
But a lot of people admire that you have that restraint and they
22:23
actually look up to you and you'll see a lot of them come to
22:26
you for real life advice. And it means a lot because a lot
22:31
of what women don't know is when guys get around each other,
22:34
they're, we actually talk to each other and tell what's going
22:38
on truly with each other because we don't have to feel like we're
22:43
being judged sometimes. And a lot of us go through the
22:47
same thing. And like you say, R sharpens R.
22:50
And so when we get around each other, it it helps sharpen each
22:55
other and motivate each other and it changes lives.
22:59
Tell me about the partnership that you had with Helping His
23:02
Hands. How did that come about?
23:05
That actually started, I met through a mutual friend, I met a
23:09
guy named Ryan. And so they do disaster relief,
23:12
big time disaster relief. So any big disaster and
23:16
especially East Coast or Midwest, they are the
23:19
predominant big leader in that. And so I met him through a
23:22
friend and he told me one day, what do you need to get this
23:26
thing off the ground? That's when I was trying to
23:28
figure out a trailer. I was like, man, I really feel
23:29
like I'm just have a trailer do these events and he just so
23:31
happens we have 1. So it started with a trailer
23:34
discussion, but what we didn't know is that by me going to look
23:39
at the trailer, I ended up going and doing my first free Friday
23:42
food event. I went and fed a bunch of
23:44
prisoners that were on a work release stocking a food pantry
23:47
at their facility and I fed those guys food and that's where
23:52
a lot of this just really took off.
23:54
I was like man, this was so much joy, so much fun.
23:56
I drove 2 1/2 hours to do this event and the whole way back I
24:00
just called my wife and I was like, I want to do this every
24:02
day for the rest of my life. This is what we're supposed to
24:05
be doing. And so that friendship really
24:08
evolved, evolved into that dude was with me at that first BBQ
24:11
competition. He's been with me at 3 BBQ
24:13
competitions since then. I've went and fed their whole
24:16
town had a huge tornado came through and they had a bunch of
24:19
people come do all the cleanup. We went and fed everybody.
24:22
I've done a fundraiser for them. Like it's just been a great
24:25
friendship and partnership with them.
24:28
That's excellent. And plus when y'all going to
24:30
feed prisoners it it, you never know how that changes their
24:34
lives because most people going to be standoffish because oh
24:38
you're in jail and all that and some of them need a second
24:42
chance. Some of them made mistakes and
24:45
they learned a lesson. So being able to be treated like
24:51
that and a decent meal, it goes a long way with them.
24:56
You do fundraisers, you sell your own sauces and rubs,
24:59
building from the ashes. When people donate, volunteer,
25:02
or even just share your posts, does that feel like God's way of
25:06
saying keep going? I got you.
25:08
The sauce and seasoning, like I always say, I'm not in the sauce
25:11
and seasoning world. I love it, but it's what it's
25:13
done has been, it's been a, it's been, I say a business card that
25:16
opens doors. And so a lot of times you can
25:18
make it somebody's day to always almost, you all see me out in
25:22
public. Usually I have sauce and
25:23
seasoning in my truck and I love giving it away because what that
25:26
does that just shares a little bit of hope and it shares who
25:29
what we're trying to do. So on all my seasoning bottles
25:32
has a QR code that tells the story of what we're doing at the
25:35
nonprofit. And so people get that QR code
25:36
that scan it, they're like, hey, we need to find out all about
25:39
the smoking faster project and what you're doing.
25:41
So I love that part. But the videos and stuff has
25:45
been pretty cool of especially like on Tik, Tik Tok's been, I
25:48
tell creators, you got to find your platform.
25:50
Tik Tok's been my platform. We do a lot on TikTok.
25:53
But what it's found is TikTok has been for as good as it's
25:55
been for me as a non profit, as a creator, it's been good for me
26:00
mentally because there's a whole BBQ world on TikTok that has
26:02
just blown up, especially in the last little bit.
26:06
And at any given time, I do a lot of lives and they'll be some
26:09
big name people in those lives. And you just realize that these
26:13
dudes that we look up to in the BBQ world, man, they're just
26:16
normal people and they have a passion for BBQ, but they also
26:18
have a passion for people. I've been getting connected real
26:21
close with Tyrone Matthews from he was on Netflix.
26:24
So me and him, I've gotten close just we've exchanged cell phone
26:27
numbers, had a couple calls now and like I always looked up to
26:30
that dude now. I mean, we're talking about
26:31
doing an event together. That's what the BBQ community is
26:34
all about. And just like you said, doing
26:37
this, I've ran across people I'd never thought I'd have or have
26:42
met and numbers in my phone where I'm like, I've seen these
26:46
folks on TV. It's ridiculous to support, like
26:50
you say, TikTok. I wasn't really big in the
26:52
TikTok. I actually started this in June
26:55
and I was on the fence about it. And I went to Memphis and May
27:00
and made some connections there and I'm like, OK, I got to get
27:04
this started. So I started in June and all the
27:08
way up to now, it's like so many people had came on to do
27:12
interviews and it's like amazing.
27:15
Because you would think that why would you come over here and
27:19
talk to me? And guys say, why not?
27:22
Why not? Because you got to you even
27:24
though you're not out there all the time with them, but you have
27:28
an angle that's different from everybody else.
27:30
And if you do, like I told you to, everything go as planned.
27:35
And I try to show people how important these people I'm
27:41
bringing on are and try to promote like a promote what you
27:45
do, promote what others do to show that it is.
27:49
There's a whole bunch of avenues for people.
27:53
There's not just one lane when it comes to barbecue.
27:55
There's a whole Expressway. If you choose to do like you do
28:00
or if you choose to do a restaurant or season rub or
28:03
anything like that, it you don't have to do what everybody else
28:07
is doing. God going to give you your own
28:10
lane and when he blesses that nobody else can do anything, do
28:14
that. So what you're doing, people
28:18
might think you're giving away, but on the flip side, you
28:22
setting yourself up for later in life because God got you for the
28:26
hard work that you're going to do what you're doing now.
28:29
And then and not, it's not even about that.
28:31
It's that you're building a lot. So my oldest son, I have an 18
28:34
year old senior in high school. He's wanting to do culinary.
28:37
And the other day he was like, dad, like what he's you're doing
28:40
the hard work for me. What if God's plan is you're
28:42
building this platform and I get to run with it?
28:44
I'm like, yeah, what about that? That's what hit you right here.
28:48
When you're here, you can't understand that and yet you're
28:50
actually influence on them and it's it's I don't even know what
28:57
to say right there that's. And that's what's been funny and
29:02
what's been fun is like watching my kids world be changed like
29:06
all because of TikTok because all their friends follow me and
29:10
then on set. So we do if you follow us, we do
29:13
a Sunday Night Live cooking shows.
29:14
Usually we have a lot of people that watch our cooking stuff on
29:17
Sunday nights. Now all my friends, all my kids
29:20
friends, they want to come over to our house on Sunday night
29:21
because they know the smoking pastor and his wife are cooking
29:23
and they know they're going to get that food.
29:26
And so our house has been this hot spot now and these kids,
29:29
we're in a town where all the all their friends, way nicer
29:32
houses, way bigger places, way better stuff.
29:35
They come to our house and they're like, Hey, we want to
29:37
come there because we're welcomed.
29:38
We have fun, we get fed and we just get a laugh with the with
29:42
Jordan and Katie spoken pastor and Katie.
29:44
And it's been fun to watch. Like my kids realize like what
29:48
God has done has impacted their lives just as much too.
29:51
Let's talk about it a little bit about your rub and your sauces.
29:55
Explain a little bit about them so people can know your.
29:57
Products so we got a sweet rub really good on pork and chicken.
30:01
That's just called everything we have is stuff.
30:03
So I'm pretty, pretty generic sweet stuff.
30:06
We have a saucy stuff, but our big thing is our Peach BBQ
30:09
sauce. And actually I am like I have
30:11
one bottle later in here somewhere.
30:12
We're totally out and we actually just redid our Peach
30:14
sauce. We it will be hitting the stores
30:17
in about 10 days with a brand new addition.
30:19
So we switch from a Peach extract to a Peach pureed
30:22
Peaches. So I'm pumped because I just, I
30:26
literally right before we got on here, I had four chicken legs
30:28
with this new sauce because they sent me a sample bottle and I
30:30
can't put it down. It's so good.
30:32
But what we say is it's not about the sauce and rub.
30:35
We don't even list the stuff we've been having out.
30:37
We don't even make like we just been white label and stuff.
30:40
We just found products that we were able to be, we were able to
30:42
do what we wanted with, but for us, it's all about getting in.
30:46
So God had opened that door. We're in Ace Hardwares, we're in
30:49
some butcher shops, we're in some local stores.
30:52
And what's turned into is it's gave us a voice in those worlds.
30:56
So we first started putting stuff in Ace Hardware now like I
31:00
am the brand spokesman for all our local Ace stuff.
31:04
I just filmed Turkey videos tonight for them five things not
31:07
to do this Turkey season. And So what that's done is it's
31:11
they Ace Hardware now has uplifted this brand smoking
31:14
pastor project. What they don't know is what
31:17
that it's doing is it's putting that nonprofit brand out there
31:19
so much. And so that's been just a
31:22
blessing of the sauce and seasonings.
31:24
And I didn't think I was going to be do it very long.
31:26
I thought it was just going to be a short run just to get our
31:28
name out there. But people trust what we put
31:30
out. So that's why we're trying to
31:31
amp up switching Co Packers, switching who we're doing stuff
31:35
with and just trying to put out the best product.
31:36
Obviously, because we're putting out the best food, want to be
31:39
putting out that best product. And so I think there's also that
31:41
thing of a lot of the guys on the in the BBQ world, if they're
31:45
going to buy a base pork or chicken rub, why not buy it from
31:48
us? So what happens is I have a
31:49
donor that buys all of this for us.
31:53
So every dollar goes to the nonprofit.
31:56
So if you're going to buy a chicken rub, you're spending 10
31:59
bucks, $10 goes a nonprofit that's going to put 3 lbs of
32:02
meat and food pantries. So every bottle has a story is
32:05
what I'm trying to start really promoting is I didn't think I
32:07
was going to run with this, but I think it's something cool.
32:09
And obviously like we haven't talked about, but I just quit my
32:13
job. I just resigned, have till March
32:16
to figure out how we're going to boost this nonprofit world where
32:20
one somehow I'm going to get paid.
32:22
I don't even know. I don't even care at this point.
32:24
We're going to keep putting meat in food pantries.
32:25
Me is the last thing, but if the sauce and seasoning can help do
32:29
that, then then we're going to run with it.
32:32
And so we're going to try to build a brand and who knows,
32:34
smoking pastor brand, there could be smoking pastors.
32:37
And my goal is to have smoking pastors everywhere that are just
32:40
people that are smoking meat and putting in food pantries.
32:43
And then we can keep that brand the same, the quality of the
32:46
same by putting that same sauce and that same seasoning, no
32:48
matter a nationwide thing. Because then if it gets so big
32:52
and you've got a, if one day you've got a cope, you've got a
32:54
packing facility, FDA packing facility that we're helping pay
32:58
for. We're paying you to pack meat.
32:59
We know that every pork, every chicken, every brisket is going
33:03
to taste the same based on our sauce and seasoning.
33:04
So it's a, it's something that I'm realizing like maybe part of
33:07
this model that's growing. Yeah, and the more you talk
33:11
about it, the more you inspire other people that may be on the
33:14
fence about doing it. And also they'll reach out to
33:18
you and OK, can you give me some tips on how you doing this or
33:22
how you doing that? And it it that that's your new
33:26
ministry. So yeah, God got you.
33:29
I know, I know what you do. I love the fact that we were
33:33
talking to guy today is the what's this guy grand old oaks
33:36
BBQ Guy sent me a rub. I get rubs and sauces sent all
33:39
the time for me to do reviews or me to try this dude.
33:42
This stuff is amazing. And I was talking to him.
33:44
I said there's so many family secrets.
33:47
Everybody's bought into these big name BBQ brands, which is
33:50
great. But like where's those old
33:52
school family secrets? Get that stuff out there.
33:54
Tell your family story. I don't know if you follow like
33:57
there's a mustard company, Kozutsky that we're all a bunch
33:59
of guys are on right now. That's a that's I forget what
34:02
1977 I think is when they started creating their first
34:05
mustard. That's a legacy that can be
34:07
carried on in the BBQ world. Can be Kennedy BBQ sauce.
34:10
That's a great dude I was just on the phone with a little bit
34:13
ago. Is getting this a family secret
34:16
out? Tell every sauce, every rub.
34:19
Can have a story. Let's tell those stories.
34:21
And that's another reason why I do this, to shine the light on
34:24
people that don't get that exposure like other people.
34:28
We hear about all the other brands, but there's so many
34:31
brands out there and people deserve a chance to show their
34:35
product and what they have because they're just as good as
34:38
the other products out there, some even better.
34:41
But I was. Going to say, let's be honest,
34:43
man, a lot of this small batch stuff is way better.
34:46
And you it's sad that it's such a, if you'd say cutthroat world
34:50
of trying to get on a shelf. Like it took me a while to get
34:54
on a shelf and then I got on one shelf and it to get to the next
34:57
shelf I thought was going to be easier.
34:58
No, it's just as much work to get on that second shelf.
35:01
And so people aren't, they're losing that battle and they just
35:03
get frustrated and what they got a great product.
35:05
They just don't have, they're just don't know how to market
35:07
the story. So I love picking up people
35:10
sending me stuff and being able to do a 2 minute video and say,
35:13
hey, go check out this company. They're amazing.
35:16
And you're using your platform to help somebody else and then
35:19
somebody use their platform to help you.
35:21
And just playing it forward, it means a lot to people where,
35:25
like I said, I don't have followers like some of the big
35:28
time people. But I want to bring people on
35:31
because you never know where I'm going to be in the next 3-4,
35:34
five years, but I want to then people start seeing it and
35:40
recognizing it and trying different products that are
35:45
outside the store and even know that, OK, a lot of people might
35:49
not know Ace have a awesome BBQ section.
35:53
And I say a lot of times, like no matter how big you are, like
35:58
if I can help you and then you can help me, we're both building
36:01
together. But also if you've got 10,000
36:04
followers and I have 10,000 followers, your 10,000 aren't my
36:06
10,000. So I'm building a huge network
36:08
with you and you're getting a huge network for me.
36:11
And all of a sudden we're both growing and organically and
36:14
we're reaching different populations than we can reach on
36:16
our own. And so if you can partner with
36:17
one of these companies, even if they're way bigger than you or,
36:20
or for me, like I've been blessed that I'm, I've got to a
36:23
point where there's some of the guys I'm, I am bigger than.
36:25
I don't want to just take off and run.
36:27
I want to help them get a hand up from and take them with me.
36:30
Like, how can we grow together? Not how can I run faster than
36:34
you? Exactly, And if, like I said, if
36:37
I have 10,000 followers and I'm not touching nobody and changing
36:41
their lives, it means nothing as well as it if every episode that
36:47
I bring out, you know who the person that I bring on, I'm
36:51
doing something wrong because I want people that you haven't
36:54
heard of that in a small town that's trying to get their
36:59
product out or showcase what they're doing in their city.
37:04
There's so many people like I interviewed one guy, he's a
37:06
griller, but he has one arm. I told him to come on, tell your
37:10
story, tell what happened, tell how you still are barbecuing and
37:16
despite what happened and motivate other people with
37:21
disabilities to show that, OK, this doesn't stop what I'm doing
37:26
because fire within me and I love barbecue and my craft so
37:30
much that I'm going to keep trying.
37:32
And yeah, that's what I'm trying to do out there.
37:36
And that goes back to what you said, like I just, I think
37:40
people need to hear that if you're trying to grow on social
37:44
media, you're not the one growing.
37:45
It's the people that are around you or who's grown you.
37:47
We were blessed. We hit 10,000 on TikTok pretty
37:50
quick. It wasn't because anything I
37:52
did, it was because there's a whole bunch of people that grew
37:54
that surrounded me and realized what we were doing.
37:57
They're like, we want to promote you.
37:58
So I'd pop in rooms and these big name guys are like, oh,
38:01
smoke of pastures in the room. Everybody go follow him.
38:03
That it wasn't anything I did. It wasn't that much content
38:06
sucks. Like it's not that great.
38:08
It's that these people bought into, not me.
38:11
They bought into what we're they're doing, which is really
38:13
they're buying into God. They just don't know it.
38:16
Your kids, you got one. I got 3.
38:19
Boys, man. Oh wow, what's the ages?
38:22
1815 and 9. Oh wow I got 2 girls.
38:26
I got 18 months and 9 year old and I'm 49.
38:32
Oh, bless your brother. I just got married two years
38:36
ago, so. Oh yeah.
38:38
Man, it's a ride. Man, it's a ride.
38:40
Yeah, it was pretty much my life was work, home, church, work,
38:43
home, church, work, home, church.
38:45
And then I finally got married and life is just totally
38:50
different then because having that partner to push and
38:56
motivate you and tell you can do it and rub you on your back and
39:00
know how you operate when you're frustrated and stuff like that,
39:05
it makes the world a difference. Where there was time for the
39:08
first 48 years while by myself and I was just there myself
39:14
trying to figure out, OK, am I going to do this?
39:17
I'm going to compete, am I going to do this?
39:19
And I'm on the fence about doing everything.
39:21
And when she came along, it's like everything just changed and
39:26
the momentum hit and it was so wonderful.
39:30
So Speaking of that, let's talk about your wife, Katie, because
39:32
we're going to give her a prop behind every pitmaster with a
39:35
vision of somebody holding the line when things get tough.
39:38
What role has she played in keeping this dream alive?
39:42
Oh. Man, she's all of it.
39:44
This was definitely, I feel, I always say I feel bad a lot of
39:47
times. She works a full time job.
39:49
She's got so much going on and so she doesn't get to be a part
39:53
of a lot of stuff, but she's as much as the founder of Smoking
39:55
Pastor Project as I am. Our our goals.
39:58
It's so funny, but we met actually in a college class and
40:01
we were laying out a timeline of ministry long term and both of
40:05
us were just on the same page. So as we got married, our goal
40:08
has always been to run a non profit.
40:10
We thought it was going to be like a bed and breakfast to get
40:13
like pastors to rehab or recoup and rest.
40:16
And what's turned into is OK, even if that.
40:19
So if this is the plan, if it's shifted and this is the plan.
40:23
Could the BBQ nonprofit eventually help fund the bed and
40:27
breakfast? Who knows.
40:29
But it's just been like that dream of us, us doing something
40:33
together forever has always been part of the dream.
40:36
And so it's so fun just watching day-to-day.
40:38
Even today we were just like, man, someday.
40:40
Because I'm not a detailed person.
40:42
Like I don't write anything down.
40:44
I don't write, have a calendar. I literally like people laugh,
40:47
but I tell the story all the time, like the way I do my day.
40:50
So I remember this. Today is all Google today's date
40:53
on my like calendars or on my emails and realize what I said
40:57
yes to. That's how bad I am.
40:58
My wife for years has been an admin to VPS at corporate level
41:02
like she's the most detailed person in the world and she's
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you frustrate me so much I said, but I need you.
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So we've talked so much about how someday she'll be able to
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help more and give up that full time job and our goal.
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Obviously smoking packs are so big that multiple employees.
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That person behind you is like I said, numerous time on this show
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that my wife is just as much as BBQ therapy as I am.
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Because right now, while I'm down here, she's up there with
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the kids. And it's, it's just as important
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as what I'm doing down here because she's allowing me to
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reach other people and she don't have to, but she's, she wants
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to. And she's supported my dream
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like I support hers and just working with each other and
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ministering to each other, encouraging each other and
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praying for each other. All that it means a lot because
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if you don't have that person supporting you.
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And just like when the your trailer got stolen, if she would
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have came on, I told you, that's why I told you not to do that.
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Listen, that that would have broke your momentum even worse
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than what you were feeling at that time.
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But I guarantee you, she was like, hey, I'm sorry this
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happened. We're going to get them next
42:20
time. We're not going to give up.
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And that motivation means a lot coming from the person that, you
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know, the only person that really.
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Yeah, that's there for you. Yeah.
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And we talk about too, she's as much of the brand as me man.
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Shoot, I can put out videos all week long and add up all the
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views. And when she does a live with me
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on Sunday night we get more views cuz she's there.
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That's what I love. But I think it also shows what
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true marriage looks like and true partnership, and we're in
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it together no matter what. So the good days, bad days, the
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days where today when I don't know how I got asked to do 150
42:55
turkeys here in a couple weeks, I don't know how I'm gonna pay
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for them. We figure it out together.
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It's not my problem. It's not her problem.
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We got this because we know God's got us.
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And so you're able to have that conversation of like, all right,
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let's be on the same page on this prayer time because we got
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to figure out how to go buy 150 turkeys and turkeys ain't cheap
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this year. You fed thousands for free.
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You lost, rebuilt, and kept that fire burning.
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What keeps you showing up every morning, even when it's hard?
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I think just the opportunity of every day, my prayers, my prayer
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when I leave my house every morning is God expands your
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territory and let me just be along for the ride.
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So having that prayer going into it every day of I did a meeting
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at 1:00 today that walked even on the books this morning.
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And it probably is gonna do two things.
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It's gonna I'm gonna be able to stock a food pantry with
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probably thousands of pounds in the next six weeks.
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But I also opened up a whole new door of a network that I didn't
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even know existed. That truly is the least of
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these. And so just knowing that every
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day God's going to open some door.
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It may not be a financial door for us, but it may be an
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opportunity that I get a walkthrough and it's just a
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smile on the face of I came home for that meeting today and I got
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twice as much work. I don't know how we're going to
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pay for it. I don't know how any of this is
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going to work out. But I was so excited because I
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found a group that is getting no government support, no state
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support, no local support, and they need help and I have the
44:14
ability to help them. If you could speak directly to
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the person listening right now, who is tired, maybe questioning
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their own purpose, what would you say to them?
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I say you got to fight. So for me, BBQ started at you
44:29
got to find joy outside your job.
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What is that for you? If it's not BBQ, If it's not
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cooking or pastries or whatever that is, what can you physically
44:37
go out and do that's joy outside your job?
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And that's where I think a lot of times we're like, man, you
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got to go find God. Find, no, you got to go find
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something that's going to bring you joy because that is going to
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show you who God really is. I'm going to show you how much
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God loves you and who he wants you to be.
44:52
And when you find that joy? It means a lot because I had to
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talk to my wife about that because I I told her she need to
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find a hobby, something that relaxes her and something
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sometimes you ain't got to put much thought into it.
45:05
She talked about my hobby is reading and learning.
45:07
And I was like, that's not a hobby.
45:08
You need something to do. And then she realized she got
45:13
back into tennis because she used to play tennis and now she
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finds that as a getaway to relax and decompress.
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And they say everybody got needs to find something that they'll
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do for free. And like I said, like you, you
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doing that for free. I'm doing this for free.
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And it feels good to decompress. And it's therapy, like tennis is
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hurt. There it really is.
45:38
You just got to find what's your thing and.
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Well, I think it all goes back to community too.
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You're building community through this.
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She's building private community through tennis.
45:46
But even if it is, if you are, I'm going to say that nerdy
45:50
person and that's OK. Like it's booked.
45:51
But are you doing a book club or are you doing, are you going and
45:54
reading books together? Like what are you doing to be
45:56
around people that are like minded, that have same values as
46:00
you? That's what like for me, I'm
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able to do that every day. And So what seems like to some
46:06
is I'm just a workaholic man. I'm just living in my passion.
46:09
I'm living in my joy. And lastly, what's the next?
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What's next for the Smoking Pastor Project?
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What are your dreams for the next few years?
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Yeah, obviously our goal is to be the largest producer of fully
46:19
cooked pre packaged meat. And I do have a national goal.
46:22
My goal right now, like short term, long term, I'm actually
46:25
writing a grant tonight. I found out an hour ago that I
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could, I was eligible to write a grant for some money.
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And so I've been just kind of laying out what's that look
46:33
like. But in the next 6 months, my
46:35
goal is to be in 50 food pantries in the next six years.
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And my goal would be in 500 food pantries.
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And that's a global. I'd love for it to be global in
46:42
20 years or 10 years or whatever.
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God could speed that up. God can slow that down, but our
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goal is just to be in the moment.
46:49
If I'm planning an event on Friday, but I have an event
46:51
tomorrow, then tomorrow is the most important event on the
46:54
books because I can be in that moment tomorrow.
46:57
So our whole thing is just, man, we're just riding this way.
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We don't know what guy's going to do.
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We don't know how we're going to pay for it.
47:03
We are. I'm not good at asking for
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money. And so all of a sudden it's man,
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I got to get out of my comfort zone.
47:07
And because it's not me asking for money, it's people are going
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to be blessed by giving to where we can do the things we're
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supposed to do. Like I said, got to get you.
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I'll take care of you. You do your part and you'll do
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his part. All right, I got a quick game.
47:22
I'm going to play with you and then I'll get you out of here.
47:25
But in college basketball, they have a tournament bracket.
47:27
So what I came up with was a tournament bracket with 16 meats
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that you cook on the grill. I'm going to read each matchup.
47:33
Just tell me which one you prefer to eat and we'll see
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which one is the winner. All right, first matchup, smoked
47:39
baloney versus hamburger. I just did smoke Bologna.
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I'm not a fan man. Hamburger.
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Yeah, too I. Think I made mine too sweet.
47:47
I got to try it again. I think I made it too sweet.
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I didn't burn ends. It wasn't good.
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All right, sausage versus pork chops.
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Oh pork chops 100%. That's my favorite.
47:59
All right, Brisket versus a hot dog.
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Oh. Brisket.
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Brisket's my love language. All right, pork belly versus
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smoked ham. Oh, that's a guy.
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That one right there. That's that's a Sweet 16 man.
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That ain't no first round man pork belly.
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OK, beef ribs versus smoked Turkey, Beef ribs, All right,
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BBQ shrimp versus lamb. Oh.
48:29
OK. Burnt insurance versus pork
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ribs. Burnt insurance.
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OK, steak versus smoked chicken. I'm a smoked chicken van.
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All right, next round of hamburger versus pork chops,
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pork chops, all right, and brisket versus, let's see, pork
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belly, OK, and beef ribs versus lamb, beef ribs, OK and burnt
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ends versus chicken. And final four, pork chop versus
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brisket. Pork chop.
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OK. And beef ribs versus chicken,
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beef ribs, right? And finals is pork chop versus
49:25
beef ribs. Man, I judge a good steakhouse
49:29
by pork chop. Man, I want that big old thick
49:31
center cut pork chop. That's the way.
49:32
That's my, that's the way I design.
49:34
Good BBQ right there to find out.
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Yeah, a little pork chop. Pork chops, yeah, I'll tell you,
49:40
ain't no nog. But Turkey man, I've got a you
49:42
can tell a good BBQ restaurant they can make some smoked
49:44
Turkey. Yeah, definitely.
49:47
All right, Pork chops is the winner.
49:49
All right, Jordan, your therapy session is over.
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And before you give you a chance to do your shout outs and stuff,
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I just want to tell everybody out there to definitely check
49:59
him out, support him. Anything that you can to do help
50:03
him do it. If you got a box of napkins or
50:07
forks or anything, you never know what you can do to help.
50:11
Even if it's straws or anything, plates or anything, if you have
50:16
anything that can help, even just your time, just definitely
50:21
reach out to him and support him because he's doing a great thing
50:24
out there and we want to see it successful.
50:28
And all those that also have a dream of doing what he's doing.
50:31
Please reach out to him if you have any questions and he'll
50:34
walk walk you through how to do everything because he's went
50:38
through it. So he's going to cut the cost of
50:41
time by telling you how to do it so you won't make mistakes and
50:46
go through some of the things he had to go through At this time.
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If you want to give you a website and plug anything, you
50:52
can definitely do that. Yeah, go check us out Smoking
50:55
Pastor project.com and then we're on almost all social media
50:58
platforms just at Smoking Pastor out all of them.
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And I would just say, man, BBQ world, nobody's an expert.
51:03
Everybody's a learner. Ask questions.
51:05
That's my favorite part, man. Thanks for doing this.
51:07
That's what it's about. Like it's the therapy part of
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asking questions, learning from each other.
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Like I said, ain't nobody an expert in BBQ.
51:14
Everybody's got their way. To do it, I definitely
51:17
appreciate you sharing your time, sharing your story and
51:19
coming on and speaking to the people and tell them what you do
51:23
and what you're about. And I just definitely wish you
51:26
the best in everything that you're doing.
51:28
And I'm gonna definitely keep up with you also follow you and
51:32
watch you and everything you do. So just keep it up.
51:35
Your efforts are not going in vain.
51:38
Thank you. You too man, keep it up.
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I like this. I'm definitely trying and I'm
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gonna keep moving and not going to give up.
51:44
And yeah, just keep reaching as many people as possible.
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All right, and on a note, everybody, we thank you for
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watching another episode of BBQ Therapy.
51:55
Enjoy your day. We just wrapped up another
51:58
session of BBQ Therapy. Remember, stay patient, stay
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passionate and keep that fire burning hit.
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Subscribe, share the good smoke and pay the secretary on your
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way out. Have a blessed day.