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Speaker 5: Well, good day, good day, and hello, and how are you.
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Speaker 5: I'm Ron Edwards and welcome to the n D American Experience.
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Speaker 5: And do we have a show for you today? Yep, yep, yep.
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Speaker 5: Lots of lots of things going on. You know that
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Speaker 5: I know that we all know that Trump assigned an
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Speaker 5: executive order to expand and reduce the cost of the
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Speaker 5: IVY f aiming to make fertility treatments more accessible for
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Speaker 5: American families. An Ali Obama judge reinstated a Biden appointed
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Speaker 5: chairwoman of merit systems protection boards as a Trump and
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Speaker 5: how the authority to fire her. That's new on me,
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Speaker 5: and we'll be discussing that a little bit later. We
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Speaker 5: might be able to touch on Europe's self inflicted irrelevance.
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Speaker 5: It's like every single day Europe becomes more or less relevant.
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Speaker 5: And they did it to themselves. They did it to
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Speaker 5: themselves and defiance of liberty, in defiance of the rights
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Speaker 5: of its own people, and in fact, for instance, in
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Speaker 5: the case of Germany, in defiance of its own God
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Speaker 5: given sovereignty. Crazy is what crazy does, and that's what
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Speaker 5: the Left are all about. Today. We've got a great guest.
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Speaker 5: You got many of you guys are familiar with Tom Caldwell.
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Speaker 5: He's an innocent J sixer who was needlessly and cruelly
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Speaker 5: treated in prison, beaten, kicked, had to go to hospital,
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Speaker 5: and he even says that he believes that they wanted
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Speaker 5: him to die. And we're going to be getting to
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Speaker 5: some of the details. I believe it was given a
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Speaker 5: commutation of sentence by President Trump, but could it be
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Speaker 5: that a full parton is in order. I think so. Anyway,
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Speaker 5: we'll be talking about that and other important topics when
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Speaker 5: after the break. But in the meantime, my friends, well,
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Speaker 5: President Trump has revealed that he's offered General Flynn several
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Speaker 5: positions in his administration, but he has yet to take one,
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Speaker 5: although they were together last evening at a particular gathering,
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Speaker 5: and something that is very infuriating to me. Now, I'm
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Speaker 5: sure many of you are familiar with the old play
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Speaker 5: Jesus Christ Superstar. I remember that and I thought, well,
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Speaker 5: I didn't know of the term, but if you were
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Speaker 5: to define it by today's term of woke, I would
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Speaker 5: have called it woke even back then. But today they're
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Speaker 5: going to make an even more woke version of the
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Speaker 5: already woke Jesus Christ Superstar, because at least in the
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Speaker 5: first one they went sort of along with the real
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Speaker 5: story and what happened, and they, of course played utilized
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Speaker 5: a man to play Jesus Christ. But this iteration they're
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Speaker 5: allowing or they've cast a black lesbian I was gonna
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Speaker 5: say ugly, but I won't say ugly female to play
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Speaker 5: Jesus Christ. Now, to me, this is utter blasphemy. This
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Speaker 5: is evil, This is disrespectful. Anything negative you can think
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Speaker 5: of to say it, it's what it is. Now. The
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Speaker 5: question is would there be a similar play regarding Buddha.
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Speaker 5: I wonder if it would be a real insult a
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Speaker 5: Buddha if a thin woman played Buddha, because we all
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Speaker 5: know that the real Buddha was a real fat guy,
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Speaker 5: and so it would probably be disrespectful to play to
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Speaker 5: utilize a thin woman to play a fat Buddha, And
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Speaker 5: what about a female, a black female, especially playing Mohammed,
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Speaker 5: the pedophile leader of the Islamic way of life. I'm
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Speaker 5: just wondering, Actually I'm not I'm just throwing these questions
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Speaker 5: out there and just pointing out through questions the hypocrisy
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Speaker 5: that we have to deal with in today's society. But
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Speaker 5: one of the reasons why, and I'm going to throw
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Speaker 5: this out here, some of my Christian friends won't like this,
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Speaker 5: but one of the reasons why that this kind of
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Speaker 5: disrespect occurs, why they would do this towards Jesus and
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Speaker 5: not towards Mohammed or even fat Buddha, is because Christians,
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Speaker 5: for the most part in recent decades, have carried themselves
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Speaker 5: as wimp, as americanas apologeticus, or in other countries just
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Speaker 5: whimps in general. The men in Africa allow themselves to
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Speaker 5: be chased out of their homes and their wives beaten
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Speaker 5: and raped, and their babies burned alive. In Africa, it
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Speaker 5: just goes on and on and on. Christians, the largest,
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Speaker 5: you know, a gathering of humans in the world, over
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Speaker 5: two billion Christians in the world, are those who call
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Speaker 5: themselves as such, but yet they're the most pushed around
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Speaker 5: people on Earth. And I just have more than a
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Speaker 5: sneaking suspicion and that God did not design Christians to be,
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Speaker 5: you know, the world's whipping post. I understand we're supposed
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Speaker 5: to turn the other cheek, but we don't keep spinning
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Speaker 5: around until there are no cheeks left. We're just cheekless,
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Speaker 5: just walking around, no cheeks, no nothing, no rights, no respect,
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Speaker 5: And I just think that it's it's awful. Well, a
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Speaker 5: Nigerian British actress, the same one that's playing a thin
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Speaker 5: black lesbian Jesus, threatens President Trump with rich witchcraft. I
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Speaker 5: find that very interesting. By the way, She's not the
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Speaker 5: only witch that has been threatening President Trump, which is
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Speaker 5: all over the world. Have been threatening people that are
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Speaker 5: trying to do good for a long time, and they
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Speaker 5: can easily be defeated. So we're not worried about this
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Speaker 5: witch threatening President Trump because we have a much more
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Speaker 5: powerful source on our side anyway, So to heck with her.
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Speaker 5: Another thing that's been going on, two point seven trillion
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Speaker 5: dollars in fraudulent US government payments discovered, and the beat
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Speaker 5: goes on. We cannot forget that DOGE reveals four point
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Speaker 5: seven trillion dollars of taxpayer money went into a government
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Speaker 5: black hole, and they say it's untraceable, but they might
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Speaker 5: be honing into where a lot of it is gone,
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Speaker 5: not all of it, but I read that they're getting close,
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Speaker 5: or they may be getting close. Well, Cash Purtel has
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Speaker 5: passed a key Senate confirmation vote, and Howard Lutnik has
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Speaker 5: been confirmed as Secretary of Commerce. We hope that was
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Speaker 5: a wise choice. But I want to get back to
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Speaker 5: this Ali Obama judge reinstating Biden appointed chairwoman of Marriage
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Speaker 5: Systems Protection Board, saying that the president doesn't have the
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Speaker 5: authority to fire her. Now, since when has an employee
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Speaker 5: at a government agency had more power or more importance
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Speaker 5: than the president of the United States of America. I mean,
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Speaker 5: you have most world leaders who don't even carry themselves
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Speaker 5: as being more important than the President of the United States,
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Speaker 5: and yet you have this entity, this imbecile right here
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Speaker 5: in America saying that the United the president of the
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Speaker 5: United States of America, doesn't have the authority to fire someone.
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Speaker 5: What will bother me more is if President Trump allows
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Speaker 5: that to stand and he doesn't slap that to the
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Speaker 10: From the Shenandola Valley of Virginia. This is Tom Caldwell.
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the voice of reason Ron Edwards on
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, this is a Round Edwards American Experience. I'm Ron
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Speaker 5: Edwards and thanks by the way for joining us from
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Speaker 5: throughout America and around the world as we blow away
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Speaker 5: the mids and to reveal the truth. Today, our guest
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Speaker 5: is mister Tom Caldwell. He's an innocent Jay sixer who
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Speaker 5: was brutally treated by the government and here he is.
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Speaker 5: Hello and welcome back, mister Caldwell.
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Speaker 10: Well, Hi, Ron, thank you. It's such a thrill to
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Speaker 10: be back on the Ron Edwards American experience. It's been
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Speaker 10: a long long time, and you have been carrying our
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Speaker 10: message to your listeners for quite some time, and I'm
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Speaker 10: surprised to know how far your influence carries. This is
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Speaker 10: a shameless hello to people like Chuck who's out at
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Speaker 10: Pella mid Atlantic in Belsall, Maryland. There's a Michael's Prayer
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Speaker 10: Group Men's Prayer group out of Bernie, Texas. People all
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Speaker 10: across the country, thousands of people listen to you because
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Speaker 10: they know you're the voice of reason.
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Speaker 5: Well, I really appreciate that, and God speak to all
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Speaker 5: of them, and especially to you, sir and your family.
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Speaker 5: When we found out that you would not be returning
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Speaker 5: to prison and no longer suffering, both my wife and
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Speaker 5: I rejoiced to High Heaven for this, but at the
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Speaker 5: same time we still lament what you had to go through,
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Speaker 5: the beatings, the hospitalization and It's sad to read that
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Speaker 5: even you thought that your own government wanted you to die.
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Speaker 5: And for the life of me, I'm still wondering why
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Speaker 5: they would want that to happen, or for any of
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Speaker 5: the j sixers. It just goes to show you, though, sir,
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Speaker 5: how wicked the left is in this country. And you
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Speaker 5: never even went to the Capitol. You weren't even on
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Speaker 5: the Capitol grounds, as far as I understand, Am I correct?
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Speaker 11: That's correct.
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Speaker 10: Sharon and I went to hear the President like so
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Speaker 10: many thousands of other people, and we never went on
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Speaker 10: the Capitol grounds until we had been told that the
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Speaker 10: Congress was gone. And you know, in January twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 10: when they pulled a swat raid on our farm, totally
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Speaker 10: caught off soft guard because we hadn't done anything wrong.
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Speaker 10: They accused me of being the mastermind of January sixth,
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Speaker 10: and that I had a plot to forcibly overtake the
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Speaker 10: US capital by a D Day style of invasion across
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Speaker 10: the Potomac. It was insanity, and that began an odyssey
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Speaker 10: that is so bizarre, so painful, so twisted that most
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Speaker 10: people wouldn't even wouldn't even believe it unless you laid
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Speaker 10: it out. But four years later, after a jury, a
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Speaker 10: DC jury acquitted me of seditious conspiracy and all the
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Speaker 10: other conspiracy counts brought by the DOJ and the US
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Speaker 10: Supreme Court throughout another bogus charge. My sentence on January
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Speaker 10: tenth of this year was for deleting exculpatory photos, including
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Speaker 10: selfies from J six, from one.
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Speaker 11: Single text message on Facebook. That's it.
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Speaker 10: I paid the customary one hundred dollars court cost. And
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Speaker 10: here's what no one else but you and your listeners
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Speaker 10: are going to here publicly. Here it comes this federal
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Speaker 10: judge named Amit Meda, looked directly at me, and he said,
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Speaker 10: it's been a long four years for you and me together.
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Speaker 10: Mister Caldwell. Your counsel's recommendation of time served the fifty
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Speaker 10: three days that I served in solitary way back in
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Speaker 10: twenty twenty one, that is appropriate, he says.
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Speaker 11: And that's what I'm ruling. Take care of yourself, all rise.
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Speaker 11: And that was it.
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Speaker 10: So that is what we call a commutation. So he
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Speaker 10: commuted my sentence to that which had already happened. You
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Speaker 10: can imagine all or dismay and confusion talking about sharing
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Speaker 10: my lovely wife and I went on inauguration day. President
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Speaker 10: Trump pardoned almost sixteen hundred j six people that were overcharged,
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Speaker 10: over sentenced, wrongly treated by this government, and yet there
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Speaker 10: were fourteen people whose sentences were commuted to time served.
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Speaker 10: I was on that list of fourteen. You can't commute
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Speaker 10: a sentence that was already commuted, So that act by
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Speaker 10: the President for.
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Speaker 11: Us was a nothing burger. So we received the answer
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Speaker 11: to the prayers.
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Speaker 10: Not only of this household, but I think maybe hundreds
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Speaker 10: of thousands of people around the world that our sentence
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Speaker 10: was you're not going back to prison. You've suffered enough,
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Speaker 10: and that's what this judge said. But now we've just
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Speaker 10: got to decide what we're going to do, how we're
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Speaker 10: going to clear my name.
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Speaker 5: Jesus Christ Well, I think that we need to all
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Speaker 5: continue to try to get the message to President Trump
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Speaker 5: that you deserve a full pardon, that you did nothing wrong,
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Speaker 5: no matter what someone may have whispered in his ear,
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Speaker 5: that you need full clearance so that you can get
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Speaker 5: on with your life completely. And if it were up
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Speaker 5: to me, I would order that the judicious system pay
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Speaker 5: you guys back for money's loss for property loss, things
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Speaker 5: of that nature. I know that you went through a
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Speaker 5: hard time with your farming situation, you guys should be restored.
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Speaker 5: I mean, anytime that a person or a family has
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Speaker 5: to go through the kind of things that you went
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Speaker 5: through in the United States of America, there should be
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Speaker 5: nothing less than a full refund of based upon all
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Speaker 5: that you went through. I think that's only fair. What
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Speaker 5: say you, Well, I.
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Speaker 10: Really appreciate that, Ron, and I think that there are
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Speaker 10: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of other J six families
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Speaker 10: that have suffered at least as badly as we have,
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Speaker 10: probably many many worse, some with young kids. My wife
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Speaker 10: and I are not spring chickens, although I look to
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Speaker 10: be twenty years older than I am and she always
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Speaker 10: appears to be twenty years younger than she is. But
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Speaker 10: we have suffered, as you can imagine, and I'm sure
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Speaker 10: that your listeners would relate to this. After four years
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Speaker 10: of fighting our way literally through a valley of a
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Speaker 10: shadow of death, you could understand that Sharon and I
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Speaker 10: are done with legal stuff. We have the ability to
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Speaker 10: fight through the appellate court system that can take years,
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Speaker 10: and you know, I have a limited amount of energy
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Speaker 10: and up left in this old seventy year old body,
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Speaker 10: and you know, we just kind of want to get
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Speaker 10: on with our lives. I don't know how easy it
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Speaker 10: is to sue the federal government. Historically it has been really,
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Speaker 10: really rough, even if you can find a lawyer who
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Speaker 10: will take your case, and that wasn't easy, even in
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Speaker 10: the criminal defense that we had to go through. So
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Speaker 10: I don't know it would be great to be restored.
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Speaker 10: But even in our state, and we look out and
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Speaker 10: the farm is empty and all that, we are so
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Speaker 10: blessed Rock. We're so blessed by people like you and
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Speaker 10: your lovely wife Denise and her prayer warriors, and so
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Speaker 10: many people that have been pulling for us across the
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Speaker 10: country in Canada, in the UK and Australia and being
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Speaker 10: on our side. And we have lost a lot, but
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Speaker 10: we have also gained a lot. And our relationships sharing
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Speaker 10: in mind as husband and wife and best friends is
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Speaker 10: never been stronger. And our relationship with our Lord and
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Speaker 10: Savior Jesus Christ has never been stronger. And that is
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Speaker 10: a terrifically good thing to come out of all this.
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Speaker 5: And I think that is most important, because after all
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Speaker 5: it's said and done, you know, one day, you and
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Speaker 5: all the rest of us, if we make it in
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Speaker 5: we'll look back at this as like a second of time.
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Speaker 5: In the grand scheme of things of eternity. This is
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Speaker 5: but a second of time, and it will eventually fade
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Speaker 5: into the ash heap of memory and it'll be forgotten.
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Speaker 5: But in the meantime, in between time and for the
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Speaker 5: time remaining, I think that no, you may not have
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Speaker 5: the what you need to sue the federal government, but
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Speaker 5: I do think that there should be some type of
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Speaker 5: restitution because this is unjust and there might be a
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Speaker 5: chance that they could happen. I really believe that, because
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Speaker 5: this government is going through through sort of a self
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Speaker 5: cleansing right now through the Doge movement and things of
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Speaker 5: that nature. But I want to get into when we
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Speaker 5: come back on the other side of the break. I
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Speaker 5: want to just get into a little bit of the
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Speaker 5: details of some of the things that you went through
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Speaker 5: on a personal level when they had you in solitary
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Speaker 5: confinement and all of that, and elders as well. When
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Speaker 5: we'll return on this. The Ron Edwards American experience is that,
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Speaker 5: okay with you, mister Calwell.
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Speaker 11: You beg glad to stick around ron Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, and we'll be right back after this.
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Speaker 10: From the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. This is Tom Caldwell, Innocent,
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Speaker 10: January sixth, defendant and proud Navy veteran. You're listening to
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Speaker 5: we are in conversation with our guests today. Tom callwell
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Speaker 5: and it's in Jay six er and he's here to
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Speaker 5: converse with us. Welcome back, Tom, And again it's an
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Speaker 5: honor to have you. And what did you get into
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Speaker 5: maybe some of the details about how you were treated
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Speaker 5: fifty three days in a row. You you receive beatings
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Speaker 5: and you were in solitary confinement. And it wasn't exactly
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Speaker 5: the to both food you were given to eat either,
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Speaker 5: was it?
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Speaker 8: No?
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Speaker 11: It certainly wasn't.
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Speaker 10: And you know, I, when I finally got some freedom,
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Speaker 10: I was visited by this wonderful community that we have locally,
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Speaker 10: all the friends came out to greet me. I felt
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Speaker 10: like I had just come back from Vietnam prisoner war camp,
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Speaker 10: and I sort of regaled them with stories of some
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Speaker 10: of this stuff. You know, my recounting of seafood Friday,
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Speaker 10: where the stuff that they served on the rubber tray
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Speaker 10: that they passed under the door looked like you know
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Speaker 10: what they call slime eels that live on the bottom
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Speaker 10: of the ocean. They were served up in some kind
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Speaker 10: of a gooey, non Newtonian fluid, and.
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Speaker 11: I'm going you gotta be kidding me.
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Speaker 10: And the other thing that was always present was the
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Speaker 10: the stems from broccoli. I started cause a little row.
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Speaker 10: I started calling them broccoli because they're usually the stuff
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Speaker 10: that you cut off and throw away, but they are
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Speaker 10: the go to vegetable, the stem of the broccoli in
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Speaker 10: the prison system in Virginia. And I should point out
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Speaker 10: everybody has her bad tales of the gulag in DC.
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Speaker 10: There are many gulogs. Many of the J sixers were
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Speaker 10: dispersed far from their families. I was stuck in a
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Speaker 10: place called Orange, Virginia, and it was actually a state
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Speaker 10: run facility, but they have a contract to serve the
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Speaker 10: FEDS and do their bidding. And when my wife found
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Speaker 10: out as I was already languishing in solitary where I
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Speaker 10: had been taken the local constabulary here, the sheriff's department,
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Speaker 10: there was at least one person that told her, oh gosh,
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Speaker 10: he went there. So it was an indicator that I
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Speaker 10: was not going to be treated well. But being in solitary,
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Speaker 10: sometimes in total darkness, sometimes when there were lights on,
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Speaker 10: they would flash, just like you see out of nineteen
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Speaker 10: sixties James Bond kind of torture them scenes, sound torture,
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Speaker 10: all that.
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Speaker 11: Kind of stuff.
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Speaker 10: The physical stuff, yeah, okay, but when they mess with
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Speaker 10: the mind body connection, especially for an old guy like me.
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Speaker 11: And I am an old guy.
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Speaker 10: And I'm beat up pretty bad, and I have to
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Speaker 10: take a lot of medications, like many of us do.
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Speaker 10: I would just say, how many of us would last
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Speaker 10: very long if we didn't have our pain meds, or
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Speaker 10: arthritis meds, our blood pressure meds, you know, our diabetes medicine.
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Speaker 10: When you're deprived of things like that, you're already put
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Speaker 10: into a bad situation. Sleeping on a nice cold floor
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Speaker 10: with a threadbare covering that they call a cozy cover blanket,
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Speaker 10: all those things just lead to a swirling down the
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Speaker 10: drain of despair.
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Speaker 11: Jeez.
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Speaker 5: And also mentioned about how there were the beatings and
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Speaker 5: kicking and things of that nature, and you had to
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Speaker 5: actually go to hospital because of the maltreatment. Am I correct?
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Speaker 10: Well, actually not while I was at this facility, because
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Speaker 10: they would never have taken me to a medical facility.
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Speaker 10: In fact, I didn't never even saw a doctor there.
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Speaker 10: But afterwards, you know, what was done exacerbated some existing
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Speaker 10: situations that I had. You know, when somebody stomp sling
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Speaker 10: your neck while you're on the ground, if you've got
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Speaker 10: neck problems, it doesn't help.
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Speaker 11: So it was that kind of thing. But no, they
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Speaker 11: never took me out to go to get any kind
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Speaker 11: of medical attention. And it's you know, it's it's a
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Speaker 11: heartbreaking thing.
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Speaker 10: And we can talk about the maltreatment, but I'll tell
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Speaker 10: you there were I've heard these stories from other J
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Speaker 10: sixers where they were tear gassed in their faces, you know,
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Speaker 10: striped naked and put in a cage in a central facility,
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Speaker 10: a central location where people could walk by and see
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Speaker 10: them with no covering on them at all.
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Speaker 11: And I go, well, I had it bad.
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Speaker 10: I had it almost to the edge of my ability
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Speaker 10: to keep it together, but there were still people that
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Speaker 10: were treated worse. And now that people can talk in
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Speaker 10: a frank and open way as we are doing right now,
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Speaker 10: and I bless you for that, a lot more is
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Speaker 10: going to be out there in the public domain and
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Speaker 10: people are going to start to say, oh, my gosh,
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Speaker 10: I had no idea.
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Speaker 11: Well, that was part of the plan. You weren't supposed
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Speaker 11: to them.
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Speaker 5: And one of the things that I found most hypocritical
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Speaker 5: is that in many locales in New York City being
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Speaker 5: one of them, if they even thought that a criminal
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Speaker 5: was being wrongly treated in prison, I mean, they would
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Speaker 5: go go to nutsville. And in fact, they were letting
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Speaker 5: real criminals go, and they still are. If you're a thug,
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Speaker 5: you can be let go and you could do whatever
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Speaker 5: you want, beat up people, and if they hurt, harmed,
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Speaker 5: a head on their head, the police would be in
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Speaker 5: big heap, in trouble. But then when I would hear
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Speaker 5: the stories about what's been happening to you guys, it
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Speaker 5: just riles you. And sometimes it even questions you question
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Speaker 5: your own country and you wonder, what in the hell
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Speaker 5: are we paying for with our tax dollars? And how
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Speaker 5: low has our morality gotten. But I think, sir, that
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Speaker 5: you set a huge example about what it means to
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Speaker 5: have faith, to understand what it means to walk with
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Speaker 5: Christ no matter what you're going through, and that you
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Speaker 5: seems like you never forgot forgot the fact that in
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Speaker 5: his word that he says He's always there with you,
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Speaker 5: going through with you. So you're technically not alone. And
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Speaker 5: I guess the proof of that is that you're out.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely.
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Speaker 10: You know, a lot of people nowadays have forgotten the
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Speaker 10: story of Nelson Mandela, who was held for four decades
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Speaker 10: in solitary confinement. In fact, the Mandela Accords, which are
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Speaker 10: signed and ratified by virtually every country around the world
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Speaker 10: except the US and Red China and Russia, says that
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Speaker 10: fourteen years of fourteen days of solitary confinement continuously is
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Speaker 10: by definition torture according to the United Nations Special Raconteur.
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Speaker 10: But they didn't care about that, and I wasn't the
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Speaker 10: only one that was subjected to that. I was taken
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Speaker 10: right to the wall. I would say right now, the
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Speaker 10: moments that I was able to share with my wife,
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Speaker 10: sharing over the phone, and I want people to picture
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Speaker 10: this if they will. The phone is kind of like
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Speaker 10: the old push button payphone type, and they have it
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Speaker 10: on casters and they roll it in front of your
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Speaker 10: solid steel door and they drop open a thing about
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Speaker 10: the size of a male slot that many people have
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Speaker 10: in their front door, and this little handset is put
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Speaker 10: through and I had to balance on my knees to
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Speaker 10: speak with her. And she was such an important part
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Speaker 10: of keeping me together. And she would read scripture to
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Speaker 10: me when they would not let me have a Bible.
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Speaker 10: I did eventually get one at about day forty six
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Speaker 10: of my incarceration, but she was very important, and she
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Speaker 10: wanted me to make sure.
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Speaker 11: That I knew that God knew what we were going through.
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Speaker 11: She and I together.
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Speaker 10: She was in her own hell, worried about me all
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Speaker 10: the time. And for people that are listening to this,
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Speaker 10: and there's they always another one of those Jesus guys.
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Speaker 10: Yes I am, because I've seen him and I know
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Speaker 10: he exists, and I'll tell you.
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Speaker 11: All about it.
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Speaker 10: And so someday, Ron, when you and Denis come to
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Speaker 10: visit us here in the Valley of Virginia, or we're
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Speaker 10: able to come to Michigan, I will say, like I
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Speaker 10: always say, I'll speak at the opening of a car
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Speaker 10: door about the goodness.
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Speaker 11: Of God and how he brought me out of that pit.
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Speaker 5: Wow. Well, do you have a few minutes to s
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Speaker 5: share some of that with us today on the show?
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Speaker 5: We'd like you to share a bit of that because
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Speaker 5: right now we need this kind of faith in our
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Speaker 5: entire nation. I mean, we do have an optimistic outlook
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Speaker 5: because of the outcome of the vote and things of
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Speaker 5: that nature for the presidency, and things are looking better,
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Speaker 5: but we're still in a fight and just as you
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Speaker 5: were and probably still are in many ways. And so yeah,
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Speaker 5: I mean we can always use that story and stories
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Speaker 5: like that as far as I'm concerned, anytime of the day, anytime,
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Speaker 5: any place, anywhere. What was it like for you just
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Speaker 5: before we had to break? What was it like for
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Speaker 5: you when the election occurred and President Trump was proclaimed victorious.
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Speaker 5: I just had to know because I was wondering during
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Speaker 5: the election. I wonder how folks like Tom called, Well,
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Speaker 5: what they're thinking, what's going through their minds right now?
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Speaker 5: Can you share a little bit of that with us?
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Speaker 10: I think there was a watershed moment really for our country.
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Speaker 10: Think about what we had been through the previous four years,
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Speaker 10: for Sharon and me, it was not It was not
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Speaker 10: so much elation as we thought, Wow, maybe we have
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Speaker 10: turned the corner. Bear in mind that I still had
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Speaker 10: not been sentenced, and the Gorgons were, you know, just
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Speaker 10: over the hill, and they were saying, hey, you're going
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Speaker 10: to have to come back to this DC court, and
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Speaker 10: they had the ability to.
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Speaker 11: Throw me in prison.
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Speaker 10: They wanted four years in federal prison for me for
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Speaker 10: taking down selfies from January sixth off of one text string.
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Speaker 10: So we were really up against it. The madness that
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Speaker 10: we've seen convinced us that that type of madness could
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Speaker 10: still happen before President Trump got into office, because I
36:57
Speaker 10: was originally scheduled to go to sentencing in December and
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Speaker 10: then it was pushed to January. If it had actually
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Speaker 10: been pushed to the twentieth of January, I wouldn't be
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Speaker 10: I wouldn't be worried about getting a pardon because I
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Speaker 10: would not have been sentenced and I would have been free.
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Speaker 10: But we were hopeful that for all the J six
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Speaker 10: ers that were still locked up, that moment when the
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Speaker 10: President won the election fair and square was going to
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Speaker 10: be the heralding of the countdown to them being released
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Speaker 10: and getting to their families. We felt that one way
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Speaker 10: or another, he was going to bring people out of
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Speaker 10: prison and that might be the first step, and we
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Speaker 10: welcomed that. So, while we were still uneasy about our situation,
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Speaker 10: we knew that this was a good thing for so
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Speaker 10: many families across this country.
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Speaker 5: Was did the treatment begin to improve once he President
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Speaker 5: Trump took office at least was a voted in when
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Speaker 5: he was still president elected. Did things begin to become
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Speaker 5: more positive?
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Speaker 10: I don't know about that for sure, because during this time,
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Speaker 10: until we came up to our victory on January tenth,
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Speaker 10: I was forbidden to have any contact with any J
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Speaker 10: six people, even those who had served their time and
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Speaker 10: had come out. I wasn't able to have a cell
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Speaker 10: phone or get on the internet. I was in a
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Speaker 10: form of isolation, you know, with my ankle bracelet on
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Speaker 10: there so they could track me. So I was really
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Speaker 10: kept away from finding out the conditions of others. I
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Speaker 10: was getting it second and third hand. As you know,
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Speaker 10: Sharon works very hard with the Patriot Freedom Project, which
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Speaker 10: was the first charity to raise funds to help JA
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Speaker 10: six families, So she just find out some of the stories.
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Speaker 11: But I have no firsthand knowledge about that. I figured
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Speaker 10: Let me distill that question still that well, I would
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Speaker 10: just say that when you are suffering that way, you
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Speaker 10: will find out that the stories of the Bible and
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Speaker 11: And I'll give you I'll give you an example.
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Speaker 10: When I finally did get a tattered old copy of
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Speaker 10: I don't know what happened of why he would feel
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Speaker 10: that it was okay to do that, And I'm so glad.
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Speaker 10: I sat down on that ice cold floor and I said,
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Speaker 10: where do I begin? Where do I begin? As a
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Speaker 10: as a guy who was raised in the church, but
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Speaker 10: whose faith had grown a little tepe it over time.
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Speaker 10: And now I've got not a friend in the world,
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Speaker 10: and no nobody knows how bad Sharon and I are
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Speaker 10: being treated. Nobody cares. And I open up the Bible
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Speaker 10: in my lap to wherever the pages would fall, and
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Speaker 10: it was Psalm one on nine. The mouths of the
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Speaker 10: wicked and MOUs of the deceitful are opened against me.
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Speaker 11: They speak of me to they speak of me with
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Speaker 11: a lying tongue.
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Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I'm getting a little emotional there, and I went,
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Speaker 10: what what? And I had turned to Psalm fifty six,
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Speaker 10: more words of I know what's going on. I know
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Speaker 10: what's going on. And then as Sharon directed me, and
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Speaker 10: we started looking into Philippians, where it speaks about through
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Speaker 10: prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your request to God,
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Speaker 10: and the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will
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Speaker 10: guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. Then I knew,
44:55
Speaker 10: and I did have a moment in there where I
44:59
Speaker 10: knew that I will not alone. And I haven't spoken
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Speaker 10: publicly about it, but someday I'm going to have to.
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Speaker 11: At length. I knew he was with me. He was there.
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Speaker 11: And when I say I've seen him, people say, oh,
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Speaker 11: but not in the natural. I don't even know what
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Speaker 11: that means.
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Speaker 10: But I have seen his glory in an absolutely dark
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Speaker 10: cavern where it became blindingly bright.
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Speaker 11: And then I knew that it was a sign. And then,
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Speaker 11: you know, he.
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Speaker 10: Didn't bring me to heaven like I hoped he would
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Speaker 10: because I was suffering. But it was like, okay, here
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Speaker 10: you are. What else do you need to see? Get
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Speaker 10: off your knees And I went, okay, I'll stay on
45:38
Speaker 10: my knees only to praise you. And that was a
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Speaker 10: turning point. It was somewhere around day forty seven, day
45:46
Speaker 10: forty two something like that of my incarceration. There's a
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Speaker 10: lot of information that we have on our website shameless
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46:03
Speaker 10: built that website for us. We could get the word out.
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Speaker 10: But that was that was my watershed moment in there
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Speaker 10: where I knew then that someone knew.
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Speaker 11: It was God. Jesus had come and said, look, I'm here.
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Speaker 11: What else do you need?
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Speaker 10: And that's when I started to really gain sustenance from
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Speaker 10: the word of God. That's that's our daily bread, not
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Speaker 10: the not the death worms that they were serving us,
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Speaker 10: and the sweatmeat and these things that don't even pass
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Speaker 10: for food. As I have come to understand the word,
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Speaker 10: that is a big change for me. And it's been
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Speaker 10: an incredible ride since then, filled with miracles that come
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Speaker 10: seemingly out of nowhere. As we continue to keep the faith,
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Speaker 10: Sharon and I and for people who are going through
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Speaker 10: any kind of an imprisonment or a hell of your
47:04
Speaker 10: own creation or made by someone else, even though you
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Speaker 10: were a good person and you didn't deserve it. No,
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Speaker 10: you didn't deserve it. But don't be mad at God
47:12
Speaker 10: because he didn't do it. There's a lot of bad
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Speaker 10: people out there, and the light of truth is going
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Speaker 10: to shine on them. We see it in the government
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Speaker 10: right now, where people are running away from the light.
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Speaker 10: And so the light is what we need to embrace.
47:27
Speaker 10: The darkness is where the evil lives. And I think
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Speaker 10: that's probably one of the reasons why they kept me
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Speaker 10: in the worst possible facility they could get in the
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Speaker 10: worst conditions. And while they meant it to be my end,
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Speaker 10: it was only the beginning.
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Speaker 5: And we declare that there's a new beginning for you
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Speaker 5: and Sharon and you have many bright days ahead, and
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Speaker 5: I want to thank you for your testimony. I want
47:53
Speaker 5: to thank you for coming on today and sharing with us,
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Speaker 5: and boy, we're going to have you back in the
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Speaker 5: not too distant future as well, because there's I believe,
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Speaker 5: still a lot to one pack, especially talking about our
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Speaker 5: faith and coming through and I think that your story
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Speaker 5: can really bring light. You are a light in our
48:14
Speaker 5: republic and it's because of people like you that our
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Speaker 5: republic does have even a chance to be great again.
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Speaker 5: And I want to thank you again for joining us,
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Speaker 5: and God speed to you and yours sir.
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Speaker 11: You're very kind. Thank you Ron so much.
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Speaker 10: It's been a pleasure to be on the run Edwards
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the pleasure is mine. God God bless you guys
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Speaker 5: and you can join us well looking towards other stories
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Speaker 5: and things that are going on throughout our world and
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Speaker 5: our republic that you know, they're still on the lookout
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Speaker 5: for the crazies that are throughout our republic. Democrat Arizona
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Speaker 5: Governor Katie Hobbs Beto's a bill to speed up vote
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Speaker 5: counting process. So these these these underheads are still out there,
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Speaker 5: my friends. You got the Arizona governor blocking an improvement
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Speaker 5: process for the voting situation in Arizona. You've got other situations.
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Speaker 5: And something I brought up earlier about Europe self inflicting
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Speaker 5: its own irrelevance. This is something See Europe is about
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Speaker 5: five to ten years depending on which nation you're you're, you're, you're,
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Speaker 5: you're you're focusing on, but at least five to ten
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Speaker 5: years ahead of the United States of America when it
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Speaker 5: comes to deterioration or movement towards socialism and other stupid
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Speaker 5: uh forms of government and governance. And you don't want
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Speaker 5: the problems that they're having in Europe right now. Yes,
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Speaker 5: Europe is very beautiful. Her cities are legendary, et cetera,
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Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. But I'm looking here at a
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Speaker 5: video one of the main bridges in London that leads
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Speaker 5: right across you go straight towards the Big Bend Tower.
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Speaker 5: We crossed that bridge a few years ago and when
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Speaker 5: we were there, there were hundreds of thousands, many tourists. Well,
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Speaker 5: I'm looking at a video right now where it's nothing
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Speaker 5: but Muslims, muslim men, tens of thousands. They're blocking. No
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Speaker 5: tourists can go by, No British citizens can go by
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Speaker 5: on this bridge to go to work or wherever they
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Speaker 5: want to go. They're being blocked literally by these thousands
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Speaker 5: and thousands of Muslims. And you know what they're doing. Well,
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Speaker 5: there's a bunch of them, at least about a thousand
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Speaker 5: of them, standing in a circle with their shirts off,
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Speaker 5: slapping their chest and they're slapping their chests so hard
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Speaker 5: and so long that all their chests are read literally
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Speaker 5: And this is on. You can find this on I
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Speaker 5: believe Gatewait, yeah, Gateway pundon. And while it looks funny,
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Speaker 5: it's not funny, if you know what I mean. It
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Speaker 5: speaks about the deterioration of Western society. And this is
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Speaker 5: part of what Khrushchev saw about how when he said
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Speaker 5: that we will better you, but he was talking about
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Speaker 5: not so much external but internal, because they knew, and
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Speaker 5: they know even to this very day, they cannot bury
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Speaker 5: us externally. Even in our weekend state America is still
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Speaker 5: too strong to be just taken down by any willy
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Speaker 5: nilly nation. However, these nations like France, Great Britain, Germany,
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Speaker 5: they are self sacrificing themselves on the evil altar of
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Speaker 5: whether it's Islam, open immigration, or you know whatever, things
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Speaker 5: that are stupid and wrong. In Germany, they're arresting people
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Speaker 5: if they happened to express themselves in a manner that
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Speaker 5: goes against the over immigration of the uncivilized individuals that
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Speaker 5: they're bringing into Germany. Now, Germany was famous for, you know,
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Speaker 5: not just Hitler, but Germany was very famous for its cleanliness,
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Speaker 5: and so were the German people. For instance, when German
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Speaker 5: settlers came to America and they went into places like Columbus,
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Speaker 5: Ohio in large numbers, that's one of the reasons why
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Speaker 5: Columbus was always a very clean city.
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Speaker 4: Because with v that's all folks tax a stage right.
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Speaker 5: Now, we gotta cut that out. We have to stop
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Speaker 5: running out of time. But now that I see that,
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Speaker 5: my time is a thank you so much for your time,
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Speaker 5: and remember to pray for your nation, your friends, your family,
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Speaker 5: and even your enemies before it's too late. My friends.
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Speaker 5: Three doubles the way you would want to be treated
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Speaker 5: until next time. I'm Ron Edwards by now.
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Speaker 4: To change your direction. Change should make the new connection
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Speaker 4: to everyone. Les