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Immigration, Investing & Purpose-Driven Leadership with Hillary Walsh · Rock My Finances

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Rock My finances. I
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Speaker 1: am thrilled today to have an amazing attorney, missus Hillary Walsh.
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Speaker 1: She is an award winning immigration attorney tedxt speaker, which
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Speaker 1: we all know and love, and the founder of New
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Speaker 1: Frontier Immigration Law, which is one of the fastest growing
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Speaker 1: immigration law firms in the US. With over a decade
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Speaker 1: of legal experience, Hillary has helped thousands of immigrants secure
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Speaker 1: legal status and freedom through family based, humanitarian, and business
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Speaker 1: immigration strategies. And where we're at right now in our country,
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Speaker 1: this is like a war and I don't think anybody
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Speaker 1: knows what is the real truth. So we're going to
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Speaker 1: bring Hillary on right now for a real conversation and
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Speaker 1: I'm going to learn so much today I can't even
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Speaker 1: make Hillary. You're amazing. Thank you, thank you, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being a badass woman entrepreneur and showing up unrock
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Speaker 1: my finances are.
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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. The first question I want to
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Speaker 1: ask you is this is one that you don't know.
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Speaker 1: What is something that you enjoyed that you spent money
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Speaker 1: on in the last week or two.
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Speaker 3: Well, I spend money on lots of things. And how
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Speaker 3: the world goes around, but my husband recently. So my
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Speaker 3: husband is a sixteen pilot for over twenty years and
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Speaker 3: he just retired this past year. And so you take
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Speaker 3: a pilot out of the sky and you have a
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Speaker 3: very sad human And so he ended up getting an
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Speaker 3: airplane and it fits all six of us, our whole family.
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Speaker 3: And we flew to Vegas on Monday on President's Day
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Speaker 3: and we went and watched The Wizard of Oz at
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Speaker 3: the Sphere. So we live in Phoenix and so it
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Speaker 3: was about an hour flight and this was a really
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Speaker 3: wonderful experience. I do not like being in little airplanes.
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Speaker 3: I have actually, like a really big fear of heights,
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Speaker 3: so even going in this sphere, like what am I
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Speaker 3: doing to my nervous system? But I love the Wizard
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Speaker 3: of Oz. I love seeing my husband happy. And it
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Speaker 3: was definitely money well spent being able to do that,
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Speaker 3: have that experience with our family.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna love that. So I have
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Speaker 1: all my clients do a money dance. This is my
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Speaker 1: dorky money dance.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 1: I love it. We do not celebrate enough when we
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Speaker 1: have wins and when we spend money, and what I
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Speaker 1: believe is the media tells women, you know, don't buy Starbucks,
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Speaker 1: purses and shoes instead of create having them create a
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Speaker 1: business such as yourself, like a law firm, and make
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Speaker 1: money so that we can actually change what's going on
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Speaker 1: if we don't like it. So you are a perfect
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Speaker 1: perfect mentor for a lot of people. So thank you
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Speaker 1: for sharing that. How old are your kids? I know
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Speaker 1: you have four?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have four kids. I have twelve year old
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Speaker 3: non identical girl twins. I have an eleven year old,
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Speaker 3: so twelve twelve, eleven year old girl and an eight
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Speaker 3: year old little guy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you are in for it.
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Speaker 3: It's coming, it's coming.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you drink alcohol, but wine might
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Speaker 1: be your friend.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the tennis and pickleball, as we were
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Speaker 3: talking about before we hit record, might be my outlet.
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Speaker 3: And the good thing is they all like those sports
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Speaker 3: too for right now. So maybe that'll just be our
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Speaker 3: family's way of processing all the changes on her our horizon.
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Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I mean, activities are amazing. Even if
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Speaker 1: they're going to be that surly fourteen fifteen year old
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Speaker 1: not going to speak to you, they're still going to
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Speaker 1: kick your butt on the pickleball court. So you guys
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Speaker 1: both do that and go on vacations and you can
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Speaker 1: travel and go everywhere and do that. So yes, that's great. Well,
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Speaker 1: thank you again so much for coming. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: dig right into it if you don't mind, because I
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Speaker 1: need some edumacation here.
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Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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Speaker 1: I know that everyone keeps talking about immigration status, Everyone
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Speaker 1: keeps talking about, you know, being deported, being aliens, being
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Speaker 1: non aliens, being you know, all the thing, and everyone
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Speaker 1: keeps saying, why don't they just get it legalized? Why
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Speaker 1: aren't they just doing the process. So what would be
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Speaker 1: your number one reason on and why is it so
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Speaker 1: hard to become a legal citizen? How's that for a question?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really there's so many complicating factors. I think
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Speaker 3: that's really what it comes down to. And then everyone
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Speaker 3: always says, and that's the short answer and the SoundBite
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Speaker 3: is that our system is broken. We need to fix
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Speaker 3: our system. How do we do that? And I think
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Speaker 3: that's really where everybody starts to want to walk away
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Speaker 3: from the problem because it is so complicated and there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of family underlying it. There's a lot of
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Speaker 3: I mean, for lack of a better term a lot
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Speaker 3: of racism that is underlying our current immigration system, where
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Speaker 3: we don't have any limitations on how many you know,
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Speaker 3: we have very little limitations on people who are wanting
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Speaker 3: to immigrate from Australia and from Canada or from England,
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Speaker 3: but we have a ton of restrictions on some of
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Speaker 3: our biggest neighbors, like on Mexico and people who are
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Speaker 3: really wanting to immigrate here, like from the Philippines and
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Speaker 3: from India. And you notice that those are not primarily
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Speaker 3: you know, Caucasian countries. They're folks who don't look like
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Speaker 3: the folks who were writing the laws at the time
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Speaker 3: that they were writing the laws. And so we have
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Speaker 3: to do a little bit of deep diving into what
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Speaker 3: is the point of immigration. And right now, the party
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Speaker 3: line is that immigration is here to help keep families together.
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Speaker 3: But we see that that's not actually the case. And
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Speaker 3: for me, what I would love to see is that
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Speaker 3: immigration stops being such a political issue and becomes an
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Speaker 3: economics issue when we look at birth rates in the
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Speaker 3: United States and in other countries around the world. And
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Speaker 3: this is by the way, not my original thought. Like
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Speaker 3: I went to law school because math was not my friend.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.
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Speaker 3: I will share that. But when we look at birth
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Speaker 3: rates and we see that our countries, you know, you
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Speaker 3: look at China, and if China doesn't increase its birth
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Speaker 3: rate real fast, somehow the whole country could collapse. But
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Speaker 3: it takes you a long time to create a twenty
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Speaker 3: one year old educated human. Takes at least twenty two years.
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Speaker 3: We include gestation period, right, So when you have a
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Speaker 3: deficit like we have in the United States and you
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Speaker 3: have around the world, how do you overcome this human
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Speaker 3: deficit so that your country can continue to grow? Immigration
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Speaker 3: is the number one way to do that, and by
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Speaker 3: importing workers who want to be here, by allowing them
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Speaker 3: to come here and work and live and support our
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Speaker 3: economy and help grow our economy. That's where we can
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Speaker 3: reframe the conversation around immigration and really see it as
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Speaker 3: such a net positive because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 3: that's exactly what it is. Of course, there are situations
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Speaker 3: where folks make bad choices and they do things that
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Speaker 3: are heinous, and that's more true for people who are
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Speaker 3: US citizens than it is for immigrants. That the data
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Speaker 3: doesn't lie. But nevertheless, if we could have a conversation
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Speaker 3: about the economics of immigration instead of the politics of it.
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Speaker 3: We'd get a lot farther in the conversation about how
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Speaker 3: do we fix this broken system?
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Speaker 1: I love that, And then we're the climate that we're
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Speaker 1: in now. There's so much fake side fake news on
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Speaker 1: both sides. You're saying the data doesn't lie. Do we
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Speaker 1: have that problem with the data as well as like,
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Speaker 1: is there a lot of inaccuracies being shared out there?
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Speaker 3: I think that there is. You know, data can be
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Speaker 3: manipulated any way you want it to be manipulated, because
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Speaker 3: you can cite different statistics and different studies. And what
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Speaker 3: we see right now where an example of this is
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Speaker 3: different social media pages run by official government agencies will
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Speaker 3: highlight the people who are criminals, who are criminals and
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Speaker 3: who are either undocumented or here lawfully but committed crimes
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Speaker 3: and now they're going to be deported. When we highlight
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Speaker 3: that in a vacuum, we start to believe that many
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Speaker 3: or most undocumented immigrants are bad people like that. But
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Speaker 3: when we look at all of the data, we see
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Speaker 3: that that's actually not the case. That undocumented immigrants in
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Speaker 3: particular commit less crimes as a whole than US citizens do.
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Speaker 3: That's probably, let's face it, because they know if they
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Speaker 3: commit a crime, they're going to get caught, so they
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Speaker 3: have to keep their nose super clean. But when we
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Speaker 3: have government agencies putting a lot of information out, it's
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Speaker 3: not that it would be a lie, and it would
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Speaker 3: be foolish for anyone to say that undocumented or documented
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Speaker 3: immigrants don't commit crimes. That's just not true. But when
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Speaker 3: we only highlight, you know, the people who are committing crimes,
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Speaker 3: we start to paint a picture that is not a
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Speaker 3: full picture. It's like when you are putting a puzzle
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Speaker 3: together and you're looking at one or two puzzle pieces
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Speaker 3: rather than getting to see how those one or two
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Speaker 3: pieces fit into the entire picture. I think the entire
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Speaker 3: picture is very important.
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Speaker 1: I love that do we have a reason or does
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Speaker 1: someone have a reason why the different countries have different
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Speaker 1: rules on immigration to the United States?
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Speaker 3: No real stated reason. It was that we wouldn't have
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Speaker 3: essentially a hostile takeover from another country by allowing some
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Speaker 3: other country to flood the United States. So they created
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Speaker 3: a cap I think, and this is where I'm not
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Speaker 3: super good with numbers, but for the sake of simplicity,
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Speaker 3: I think that it's three percent. You cannot have more
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Speaker 3: than three percent of our entire visa allotment go to
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Speaker 3: one's more than one country. So let's say that we
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Speaker 3: have one hundred visas that are available. We obviously have
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Speaker 3: lots more. No country could take more than three of
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Speaker 3: those at a time, and so that's where we get
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Speaker 3: these backlogs. Because Mexico has a lot of folks who
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Speaker 3: are US citizens now and they have family and their
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Speaker 3: petitioning for their family. But when you can only issue
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Speaker 3: three percent of all the visas that are available to
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Speaker 3: these folks who are Mexicans and they're waiting in this line,
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Speaker 3: the line for Mexicans becomes so long, like right now
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Speaker 3: a US citizens sibling petition. So if my brother is Mexican,
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Speaker 3: I'm US citizen, I want a petition for him, it
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Speaker 3: will take over twenty years his visa category to be current,
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Speaker 3: meaning he can't get a green car and actually come
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Speaker 3: to the US for a minimum of twenty years. By contrast,
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Speaker 3: if my brother is Canadian, his visa is eligible right now.
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Speaker 3: He can come on over. Because we don't have that
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Speaker 3: many Canadians seeking to immigrate to the United States because
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Speaker 3: there aren't that many Canadians who have immigrated to the
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Speaker 3: United States to begin with, where we have lots of
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Speaker 3: folks from Mexico that do you.
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Speaker 1: Just explained so much, that's so wonderful. So who can
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Speaker 1: change that law of the three percent?
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Speaker 3: Congress?
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Speaker 1: Okay, and there we go, there you go.
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Speaker 3: There you go. When I was in DC, it was
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Speaker 3: right before President Trump was elected, the election stuff was
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Speaker 3: all going on. I was meeting with at the time,
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Speaker 3: the economic advisor who for Vice President then Vice President
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, and everyone described how immigration was like the
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Speaker 3: third rail. It used to be abortion, nobody wanted to
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Speaker 3: talk about abortion. Before that, it was gay rights, nobody
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Speaker 3: wanted to talk about gay marriage. And then now it
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Speaker 3: had come to no one wanted as a politician to
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Speaker 3: take on immigration as a core thing that they were
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Speaker 3: going to go champion unless it was to be adverse
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Speaker 3: to immigration. And we saw a lot of that in
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Speaker 3: the Trump campaign. That's crazy to me because each of us,
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Speaker 3: when we really distill it down, we have some type
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Speaker 3: of immigrant story in our families. Whether it's really celebrated
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Speaker 3: or not. It really depends. Like my husband's whole side
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Speaker 3: of the family is Canadian. And then before that they
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Speaker 3: were all Irish and they are very very strong ties
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Speaker 3: to the Irish culture. My family were a bunch of mutts,
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Speaker 3: so we don't really have a strong connection to our
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Speaker 3: immigrant like our ancestors immigrant story. But how could I
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Speaker 3: not be grateful to my great great grandparents who immigrated
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Speaker 3: to this amazing country because look at the fortune. How
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Speaker 3: fortunate I am to get to have been born here
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Speaker 3: and then get to live here. So anyway, I wish
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Speaker 3: that people would talk about it from a positive perspective
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Speaker 3: while recognizing that there are problems and there are folks
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Speaker 3: who we don't want to be.
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Speaker 1: Here absolutely, and every system can be broken at one
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Speaker 1: time another that needs to be fixed. This is not
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Speaker 1: the only system in the United States that needs to
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Speaker 1: be fixed as well.
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Speaker 3: And the last major reform we had was when Bill
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Speaker 3: Clinton was in office, and how did that go? It
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Speaker 3: was major, major immigration reform. It was creating a lot
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Speaker 3: of punishment for people if they came into the country illegally.
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Speaker 3: It really impacted folks who were Mexicans who would come
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Speaker 3: across the border and work. It was a very common
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Speaker 3: thing for people to come in work, go back home
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Speaker 3: maybe after a season. As your front you have lived
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Speaker 3: in southern California before, It's very common for folks to
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Speaker 3: come in work harvest and then go back home. But
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Speaker 3: when Congress created the law that Bill Clinton ended up
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Speaker 3: signing into into law, it created a lot of punishment.
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Speaker 3: So you were here and had worked without permission. No
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Speaker 3: one was working with permission back then. This was just
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Speaker 3: not a common thing. Then you were banned from getting
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Speaker 3: to come back, and then it could be a criminal penalty.
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Speaker 3: And like basically the wall went up behind people and
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Speaker 3: they got stuck. If they ever wanted to come back,
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Speaker 3: they had to stay. And that's when so many people
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Speaker 3: went from being just a laborer they's going to work
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Speaker 3: for a little while seasonally, to now I'm undocumented and
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Speaker 3: I'm stuck here and I don't know what to do.
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Speaker 3: And attorneys, I mean, I was just a kid then,
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Speaker 3: but I'm guessing attorneys really didn't know how to advise either,
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Speaker 3: because it was such a severe thing and we need to,
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Speaker 3: you know, roll some of that back in order to
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Speaker 3: let people move on and move forward legal people who
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Speaker 3: were stuck exactly makes about the process. Legally, you got
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Speaker 3: to make options available to them.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. I'm so glad you explained that
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Speaker 1: that's really because I lived in northern California, which we had.
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Speaker 1: I lived in farm country. Oh yeah, oh yeah, complete
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Speaker 1: farm country. Oh that's wonderful. Okay, So talking to you,
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Speaker 1: I know it's a lot to unravel, but it's doable.
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Speaker 1: It is doable, Like you said, if we all got
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Speaker 1: on the same page and we're here for an economic reason,
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Speaker 1: instead of trying to who's going to vote who, let's
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Speaker 1: see what's best for the country and move forward that way.
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Speaker 3: For sure, and what discourages me in our processes. We
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Speaker 3: expect politicians to not only understand what the problem is,
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Speaker 3: but then for them to also solve it. And I
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Speaker 3: really think that politicians should bring in immigration advisors and
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Speaker 3: almost have people who are on each side of the
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Speaker 3: aisle present and duke it out among ourselves about how
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Speaker 3: is the best way that we can really solve this
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Speaker 3: problem when at the core of it, we're all wanting
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Speaker 3: to do this because we love our country out of
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Speaker 3: a sense of patriotism, and then present that to lawmakers.
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Speaker 3: But instead, I just think that they're trying to solve
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Speaker 3: things in ways that in the end don't really make sense,
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Speaker 3: and then they roll a whole bunch of pork into
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Speaker 3: stuff and then nothing gets done.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, agreed, agreed. It's it's coming about keeping your
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Speaker 1: seat and your votes instead of doing what's right. So
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Speaker 1: and getting smarter people that have boots on the ground,
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Speaker 1: that see this like yourself every day and you know
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Speaker 1: exactly what's happening. To have them dooke it out and
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Speaker 1: then come to the lawmakers. That's a great idea.
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Speaker 3: I love that someone came out. I mean, I think
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Speaker 3: that if we see a presidential candidate, for example, come
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Speaker 3: out and say it is my like Obama said we're
16:33
Speaker 3: going to fix healthcare and then he got this Obama
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Speaker 3: Care stuff going. If we had a politician who emerged
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Speaker 3: right now before we have midterms, who said I'm going
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Speaker 3: to run for president and I am committed to a
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Speaker 3: bipartisan immigration reform in my first term, it turned.
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Speaker 1: Some heads, right, it turns because.
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Speaker 3: It's an audacious, audacious claim, but also saying it from
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Speaker 3: a bipartisan perspective and have Abraham Lincoln's style a team
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Speaker 3: of rivals. Frankly, I would not want Stephen Miller to
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Speaker 3: be part of that conversation. So that's me. But we
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Speaker 3: could have a lot of folks who have some really
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Speaker 3: good ideas about how we can solve this problem. And
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Speaker 3: those folks sit down and come up with a plan
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Speaker 3: that is that is not so conservative, it's not so
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Speaker 3: liberal that it really is like a lot of common
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Speaker 3: sense stuff that can be done.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 1: So we have about five minutes left. I would love
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Speaker 1: to hear why do you care about this? Why did
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Speaker 1: you build this amazing law firm built around this? And
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Speaker 1: then I will I'll cut you off at one minute,
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Speaker 1: so go ahead and give us a share about you.
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Speaker 3: The sixty second pitch on this is I went to
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Speaker 3: law school after I mean, I didn't know what I
17:49
Speaker 3: wanted to be when I grew up. I wanted to
17:50
Speaker 3: be a country music superstar and that did not pan
17:53
Speaker 3: out because you really need to be good at singing
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Speaker 3: to make that happen.
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Speaker 1: A little bit.
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Speaker 3: And I just have it. So, you know, what do
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Speaker 3: you do next? I knew I wanted to get a degree,
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Speaker 3: couldn't figure it out. Long story short. There I am
18:06
Speaker 3: volunteering in Uganda while my husband is fighting in the
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Speaker 3: Iraq War, and talk about not knowing you know who
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Speaker 3: you are in life, and I had this eye opening
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Speaker 3: kind of like life changing experience of I can help
18:21
Speaker 3: people who are in these difficult situations, and I can
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Speaker 3: do it by being a lawyer. So I decided to
18:25
Speaker 3: go to law school, got to law school and fell
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Speaker 3: in love with my immigration law professor. She was so cool.
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Speaker 3: She had just been an an immigration attorney in LA
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Speaker 3: in fact, and being from rural Kansas, anybody from LA
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Speaker 3: at the time was just like too cool all that. Yep, yeah,
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Speaker 3: you got to love it. And I worked in the
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Speaker 3: immigration clinic under her supervision as a law student. And
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Speaker 3: my first client was a fourteen year old undocumented girl
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Speaker 3: from Germany and she had been kidnapped and raped and
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Speaker 3: prostituted on the strip because I was going to law
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Speaker 3: school in La Vegas while she was a teenager, and
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Speaker 3: they had just found her and I went out to
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Speaker 3: Nashville where she was in like a rehab facility for
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Speaker 3: sex trafficking victims. That's the first case I worked on.
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Speaker 3: And talk about getting thrown into the deepened helping people
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Speaker 3: when they are really at their lowest. You are so
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Speaker 3: valuable as a counselor at law. You know, you really
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Speaker 3: get to help mentor folks and you see them grow
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Speaker 3: once they get those papers. You can grow up the
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Speaker 3: socioonomic socioeconomic ladder, and you want to you want to
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Speaker 3: see people do that. And they they're working so hard already,
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Speaker 3: and now you see them working in a different way
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Speaker 3: that now it's not out of fear and it's not
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Speaker 3: under the table, and they can they just have such
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Speaker 3: better life experiences and it's all keeping families together. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's just the best.
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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh, Hillary,
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Speaker 1: would you do me a favor and come back on
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Speaker 1: another show and I talk about your ow entrepreneurship, because
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Speaker 1: that's what I love. The women. I want more women
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Speaker 1: at every decision making table in this world. I'll start
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Speaker 1: with the country first. I believe that if we can
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Speaker 1: get more women at these tables, we can have better conversations.
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Speaker 1: So I love having this conversation with you.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's been an honor to be here. Thank you
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Speaker 3: so much for opening up this dialogue.
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Speaker 1: Awesome. And then we have your ted x talk. What
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Speaker 1: is the name of that?
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I don't even remember. I recorded it
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Speaker 3: so long ago. But the thrust of that talk is
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Speaker 3: talking about the simple changes we can make to immigration
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Speaker 3: law right now if I am a US citizen and
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Speaker 3: I get married to an immigrant, I have to file
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Speaker 3: a petition for him or for her, And what the
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Speaker 3: ends up creating is a lot of domestic violence and
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Speaker 3: just just abuse and control of if I file this
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Speaker 3: for you, are you going to leave me? And then
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Speaker 3: it becomes this leverage chip. And especially if the person's
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Speaker 3: undocumented and you're already in kind of a difficult situation.
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Speaker 3: You throw in some low income stuff and maybe a
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Speaker 3: little alcohol of you, and you have got a recipe
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Speaker 3: for disaster. And my argument is, why does the US
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Speaker 3: citizen get to control whether or not this person gets
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Speaker 3: immigration status if they have the relationship, Immigration should allow
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Speaker 3: the person, the individual who benefits from the petition to
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Speaker 3: file that.
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Speaker 1: Just simple changes, simple changes. Oh my gosh, Hillary, I
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Speaker 1: can't wait to have you come back. I really appreciate it,
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Speaker 1: and thank you all for being here. I want us,
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Speaker 1: all immigrants, undocumented, documented, to do it the legal way
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