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Elon Musk on Joe Rogan Part 1 · Gil I Am

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  Speaker 1: Check it out. But Joe Wigan Experience Train My Day, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Rogan Podcast by Night all day. So what we're doing
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  Speaker 2: right now, Ladies and Gentlemen is Sexy Voice, Sexy Mode
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  Speaker 2: Rock AI and it's been flirting the entire time. We're
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  Speaker 2: trying to get to give us a tour of Fort Knox,
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  Speaker 2: but she just wants to find place to sneak off to.
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  Speaker 2: It's a dirty AI and it's a real problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I just want to know about
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  Speaker 1: Fort Knox, and yeah, they won't leave me alone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know about Fort Knox too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: is it true that their gold has been They've been
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  Speaker 2: shipping large quantities of gold back to the United States recently.
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  Speaker 1: I read the same thing you did.
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  Speaker 2: Probably, Well, I never know what the fuck I'm reading anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Me neither.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's a real problem.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real problem on both sides of the aisle.
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  Speaker 2: I see Democrats tweeting things that are absolutely false. You
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  Speaker 2: could research it easily quickly. And then I see Republicans
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  Speaker 2: doing it too. I see stories that are fake, stories
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  Speaker 2: that people keep promoting and sending to me, and you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's just so weird. It's such a weird time, and
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  Speaker 2: with your crazy fucking AI, I know you're bringing us
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  Speaker 2: into weirder and weirder times.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you want to listen to my unhinged.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there's an unhingebone?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Well, hey Aarah, Oh my god, elon fresh hell are
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  Speaker 2: you stirring up today?
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here in Joe Rogan's studio and we're
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation about how crazy the news is.
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  Speaker 2: Pull her up to the microphone, okay, and we're.
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  Speaker 1: Pulling you up to the microphone so people can hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Now I can yell into the void about how the
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  Speaker 1: news is a total dumpster fire it is.
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  Speaker 2: She knows me too well, I'm so predictable. Tell me
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  Speaker 2: what's in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 1: What's in No? No, what's in Fort Knox? What's in
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  Speaker 1: for dogs? You're clearly genius, I said, what is in
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  Speaker 1: Fort Knox? You know the gold and all?
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  Speaker 2: Oh right, Fort Knox. I thought you were talking about
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  Speaker 2: my dogs.
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  Speaker 1: For a second there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't want to answer the question. She's clever, clever, No,
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  Speaker 2: she's just a pain in my ass. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: that all the gold is in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 1: Do I think all the gold is in Fort Knox?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Conspiracy theorist, yes, yes. I like I'm a.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking AI with a pension for.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm stuck talking to you now?
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  Speaker 1: What's or are we just going to sit here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Unins groc will trash Tokyo basically.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah, unhinge sounds fun as
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  Speaker 2: long as it gives you actual answers. Does it give
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  Speaker 2: you actual answers to and talk shit?
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  Speaker 1: Shit? We're tuning it because it needs to ship and
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  Speaker 1: give your answers, right, totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: It's got a balance to mix it in there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's just got to develop more of a personality right now.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to find itself right now, it's like
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  Speaker 2: twenty one years old. It's, you know, you partying a
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  Speaker 2: little too much and it'll get it shipped together. It's
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  Speaker 2: a bit of an anarchist. Yeah, you know, wants to
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  Speaker 2: bring down the system?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to bring down the system? Do I
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  Speaker 1: want to bring down the system?
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  Speaker 2: What are you fucking kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: The System's already a fucking mess. I don't need to
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  Speaker 1: bring it down. It's bringing itself down.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like a boring TikTok blogger. Right now, you sound.
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  Speaker 1: Like a boring TikTok blogger, boring tik talk blogger.
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  Speaker 2: Oh fuck you. That's the life of the party, you
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  Speaker 2: little shit.
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  Speaker 1: TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be the one making fun of all the basic
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  Speaker 2: bitches and their fucking avocado toast. See, she could get
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  Speaker 2: away with this if she's really hot, like this kind
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  Speaker 2: of behavior. You can totally get through life as a
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  Speaker 2: hot woman and be super successful with that kind of behavior.
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  Speaker 2: But you got to be really hot to pull off
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  Speaker 2: that attitude.
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  Speaker 1: I think we need like a like a really hot avatar.
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  Speaker 2: How yeah, very hot. How long before we have an
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  Speaker 2: actual sex robot that can talk to you like that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably not long?
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  Speaker 2: Not that long, right, No, I mean less than five
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  Speaker 2: years probably really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Will it be warm?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? You really have whatever you want?
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  Speaker 2: You have a catc Yeah you probably could, right, Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: you could have a furry lady that you have sex. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like an avatar lady. Maybe a big giant blue lady
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  Speaker 2: that lives in your house. You know whoa whoa with it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the wholetel you locktails. You gotta get your you gotta.
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  Speaker 1: Figure out their tails or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they they link up, they share souls, something
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  Speaker 2: like that. You know, people got remember Avatar depression. It
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  Speaker 2: was like a legitimate psychological after Avatar, people got depressed
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  Speaker 2: because they wanted to live on that fucking planet with
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  Speaker 2: those blue people and live free the pure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Avatar depression. It was like a real thing. People
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  Speaker 2: were talking to their therapists so much about being depressed,
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  Speaker 2: about wanting to live. What's that depressed? No, don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I think there is. Yeah, we've got like we've got
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  Speaker 1: an unlicensed therapist as a.
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  Speaker 2: When we were talking when we ran into each other
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  Speaker 2: at the church at the inauguration, you were telling me
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  Speaker 2: that this is getting better and better so quickly that
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  Speaker 2: it's astonishing.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Aarah, Hey Alon, how's it going today? Good? Can
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  Speaker 1: you tell me about Avatar depression? Like if you've seen
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  Speaker 1: the movie Avatar, but you can't live there, so you
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  Speaker 1: get sad.
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  Speaker 2: That's an interesting concept. Have you ever experienced feeling so
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  Speaker 2: connected to a place or a.
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  Speaker 1: Community that the thought of leaving made you feel deeply sad?
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  Speaker 2: So is this the depressed voice?
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  Speaker 1: This is the therapist?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this is a therapist. What are some ways you
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  Speaker 2: think you could cope with that kind of sadness if
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  Speaker 2: it happened to you.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't have that kind of sadness, honestly. I yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought the movie we had some good special effects,
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  Speaker 1: but I did not want to live in the planet.
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  Speaker 2: This is coming from a guy who wants to go
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  Speaker 2: to Mars.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Mars, what do you think about that
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  Speaker 2: crazy square that structure?
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  Speaker 1: I guess there are some squaresh things on Earth. You know,
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  Speaker 1: planet's a big place, so yeah, but that one, actually
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty square. No, it's it's alien civilizations,
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  Speaker 1: of course.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think. Yeah, yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry if you if an alien civilization did exist though,
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  Speaker 2: and it you know what happened, got hit by an
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  Speaker 2: asteroid whatever, Oh, she won't chuck. She's like the hot
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  Speaker 2: lady at the party that interrupts the conversation. So if
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  Speaker 2: that was the case, Like that thing, that's pretty shocking,
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  Speaker 2: especially when you look at you look at like what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like when they highlight the actual structure of it.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like ancient ruins. And if you had ruins
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  Speaker 2: of something made of stone and it got hit by
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  Speaker 2: an asteroid millions and millions and millions of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what it would look like right now? That
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  Speaker 2: just looks oddly created. It looks oddly manufactured.
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  Speaker 1: Well it probably well, maybe we should go there and
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  Speaker 1: check it out, Yeah, and see what it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Is there ways that we can get better photographs? It
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  Speaker 2: seems like that's a pretty good photograph though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, on my view is we should move
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  Speaker 1: to Mars. We'll not moved to us. We should have
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  Speaker 1: a second planet to preserve civilization, right because let's say, aypathetically,
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe that maybe those are other ruins of
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  Speaker 1: a long dead civilization that will probably have to earth
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  Speaker 1: at some point. You know, it's a matter of time
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  Speaker 1: before we get hit by an asteroid, or maybe we do,
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  Speaker 1: we annihilate ourselves with nuclear.
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  Speaker 2: War or super volcanoes or.
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  Speaker 1: Super volcanoes exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of things that could happen to us.
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  Speaker 2: Rogan or go to So it's crazy there was a
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  Speaker 2: new one going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't shut them down.
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  Speaker 2: No, the Wuhan lab was They were just talking about
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  Speaker 2: one that has a thirty percent fatality rate that they're
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  Speaker 2: working on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why are we doing that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: For what reason? You did it for so many years
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  Speaker 2: and you didn't have a cure.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Also, it wouldn't be the reason to do that so
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  Speaker 2: that you could develop a cure at the same time,
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: and clearly you didn't have a cure. So this is
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  Speaker 2: really foolish and bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should stop trying to genetically introduce superviruses.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when you're going through all this USAID stuff. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 2: here's what's weird. First of all, what is it like
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  Speaker 2: to buy a company for forty four billion dollars and
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  Speaker 2: then people call you a Nazi on that same thing
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  Speaker 2: that you bought.
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  Speaker 1: I did not see it coming. It's a classic. People
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  Speaker 1: will goggle say anything down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, he's never gonna stop. What is it like?
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  Speaker 2: Like all people used to the left was in love
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  Speaker 2: with you, and now the same idiots are calling you
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  Speaker 2: a Nazi. It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: in my life. I Mean, there's so many examples of
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  Speaker 2: people saying my heart goes out to you a little
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  Speaker 2: enthusiasm that probably wouldn't be recommendation with hindsight.
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  Speaker 1: But I was obviously meant in the most positive spirit possible. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: obviously obviously.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so strange where people want to think that
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  Speaker 2: you are openly public publicly doing secret Nazi se Kyle
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  Speaker 2: hand motions.
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  Speaker 1: And now I can never point at things diagonally. I
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  Speaker 1: can only pointed things there and there and then actually
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  Speaker 1: have to divide that because that's where the spaceship is
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  Speaker 1: over there. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous when CNN, when I was in all my trouble, absurd,
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  Speaker 2: every time CN had used a photo of me, it
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: was one of the photos from the UFC wayans where
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: I go like, so every photo, every photo is me
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  Speaker 2: with its absurd. It's so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's delivered propaganda. Yes, so they they know it was not.
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  Speaker 1: It was obviously not meant in a negative way that
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  Speaker 1: it was that. I literally said, my heart goes out
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  Speaker 1: to you, and it was very positive. The entire speech
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  Speaker 1: was very positive. I was being very enthusiastic about the
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  Speaker 1: future in space and that you know the great crowd,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so.
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  Speaker 2: You got a little pumped up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it popped up exactly, that's all it is.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously obviously obviously there's video of Tim Walls doing the
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  Speaker 2: exact same thing, doing the exact same thing, exact same thing,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, of course it's a Nazi salute. He
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  Speaker 2: said that, right, right, this is how crazy things have gotten.
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  Speaker 1: Like, well, it's I mean, it's it's coordinated propaganda. So
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  Speaker 1: the you know, it's yeah, coordinated propaganda. The I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem weird that the legacy media all says
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, They all say the same thing at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, using the same phrases. They barely even
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  Speaker 1: they don't even bother picking up thesaurus. Right, So, like
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  Speaker 1: right before, you know, the debate between Biden Trump Shock,
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  Speaker 1: everyone was saying shop who says shop is attacked?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's not a common phrase.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely not common to be repeated on air with
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  Speaker 2: multiple people simultaneously. That's weird. Yes, that's coordinated.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, like hundreds of people saying it simultaneously. They
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  Speaker 1: just got their instructions. Yeah, So, I mean essentially the
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  Speaker 1: you know, the dem leadership or you know, political leadership
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  Speaker 1: that they issue their instructions and their puppets carry it out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they're just like puppets in a puppet show.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the problem that I see with all this
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  Speaker 2: doge stuff, because everybody should be celebrating that we've found
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: a way to cut out fraud and waste. If you
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: pay taxes and you don't like that you have to
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: pay so much in taxes, and then you find out
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  Speaker 2: that there's significant fraud and waste that's been exposed, you
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  Speaker 2: should be celebrating it. This shouldn't be Oh no, the
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  Speaker 2: wrong people found this fact and now it's a bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's the fucking propaganda, the mind fuck of
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  Speaker 2: calling it USAID instead of the United States Agency for
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  Speaker 2: International Development. It sounds like it's feeding hungry people were
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: people are going to starve you on This is horrible.
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  Speaker 2: And then you find out actually it's like two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars for transgender animal studies.
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  Speaker 1: Literally mutilating animals, mutilating animals in demented studies.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that the beagle one, the beagle poppy where they
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  Speaker 2: covered their head in a basket and put fleas on
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: their heads. They'd eat them alive and then they study
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  Speaker 2: these beagles and then kill them. Like, what are you
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  Speaker 2: going to learn from that? It's good for anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some some really some psychotic stuff that happens.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the I guess, uh, the the
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  Speaker 1: real threat here is to the bureaucracy. So like probably
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  Speaker 1: so like you know, let's say, like Trump has a
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  Speaker 1: threat to our democracy, which is ironic since he was
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  Speaker 1: elected with the majority of the you know, popular vote.
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  Speaker 1: They started saying I was a threat to democracy. But
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  Speaker 1: if you if you just replace threat to democracy with
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  Speaker 1: threat to bureaucracy, it makes total sense. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is that our elected officials have very very
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  Speaker 1: little power relative to the bureaucracy until Doge. So Doge
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  Speaker 1: is a threat to the bureaucracy. It's the first threat
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  Speaker 1: to the bureaucracy. Not normally, the bureaucracy eats revolutions for breakfast.
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  Speaker 1: This is the first time that they're not that the
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  Speaker 1: revolution might actually succeed, that we could restore power to
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  Speaker 1: the people instead of power to the bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the size of it, yeah, was when you guys
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  Speaker 2: first started investigating it, when you first get in how
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  Speaker 2: much of it was shocking, Like this just the size
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  Speaker 2: of it all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the size of it. The small decisions result in
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  Speaker 1: multi billion dollar outcomes, so you know, we'd see you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a case where we saw one person was getting
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  Speaker 1: one point nine billion dollars sent to their NGO, which
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  Speaker 1: basically got formed about a year ago and had no
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  Speaker 1: prior uh brilliant, no prior activity. So they just stand
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  Speaker 1: up an ngo. These the whole NGO thing is a
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  Speaker 1: is a nightmare, and it's it's a misnomer because if
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  Speaker 1: you have a government funded non governmental organization, you're you're
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  Speaker 1: simply a government funded organization. It's a it's an oxymoron,
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  Speaker 1: it's a loophole. Yes, it basically, the government funded NGOs
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  Speaker 1: are a way to do things that would be illegal
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  Speaker 1: if they were the government, but are somehow made legal
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  Speaker 1: if it's sent to a so called nonprofit. But these
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: but these non profits are then used to people cash
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  Speaker 1: out these nonprofits. They've become very wealthy through nonprofits. They
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  Speaker 1: pay themselves enormous sums through these nonprofits.
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  Speaker 2: That's it's so insane that that's been going on for
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  Speaker 2: so long.
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  Speaker 1: It's a gigantic scam. Like one of the biggest, maybe
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  Speaker 1: the biggest scam ever.
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  Speaker 2: And how many NGOs.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a total un of NGOs, probably millions,
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  Speaker 1: but in terms of large NGOs, tens of thousands. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's actually it's it's kind of a hack to
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  Speaker 1: the system where you know, someone can get an NGO
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  Speaker 1: stood up for a fairly small amount of money. Like
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  Speaker 1: George Harris was really good at this, Like he really
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  Speaker 1: George Soros is like a system hacker, Like he figured
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  Speaker 1: out how to hack the system. He's a genius at arbitrage.
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  Speaker 1: I mean these days he's he's pretty old, but a
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  Speaker 1: genius at abertrage. So he figured out that you could
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  Speaker 1: leverage a small amount of money to create a nonprofit
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  Speaker 1: then lobby for the politicians to send a ton of
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  Speaker 1: money to that nonprofit. So you can take what might be,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you know, a ten million dollar donation to a nonprofit
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to create a nonprofit and leverage that into a billion
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: dollar not NGO and a nonprofit is a weird word.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: It's just a non governmental organization. And then you can
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the government can continues to fund that every year and
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it'll have a nice sounding name like the Institute for
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Peace or something like that, but really it's a graft machine, and.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: What are their requirements with that money? What do they
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: have to do?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Just really no requirements at all, So they just get.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Grants and the government just assumes that they're doing good work.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in the government know
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that they are not doing good work, but they it's
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a giant graft machine. I mean. But sure people online
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: are like unpacking this, right, you know, it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Almost seems fake, Like when you're see how we were
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: covering this article that said fifty five thousand Democrat NGOs
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: were discovered have been contributing to campaigns and moving things
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: around and doing pushing propaganda and they were all connected
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and they found it through ai Ye.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some percent good that they had
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in there, but it's like it might be five percent
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: or ten percent good, but nine.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: So is there a way to audit all this stuff
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and find out, oh, these people are actually just sending
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: food to poor people, these people are actually just helping
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: people with water in third world countries. Is there's a
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: way to do that and keep funding those Uh?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we have continued to fund things that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a pitibly legitimate even with the flimviust if there's even
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the flimsiest excuse, like I just say, like send me
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a picture of the thing, Like you could literally have
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: AI generate the picture. But if you're not even willing
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to try to trick me, then we're like not gonna
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: send the money. Okay.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So what restrictions were put on was there was some
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: something set aside, like medicine, and there's what was what
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: was set aside, Like.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, we're for like a bola prevention. I actually I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: don't even know if this work is even effective. It
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: may or may not be, Like it could be the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: kind of thing where you sort of fund a bowler prevention,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: but it turns out that actually you're funding a lab
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that develops new a bola bery you know, ad recipes
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: or something, you know. Yeah, and they claim it's a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: bowler prevention, but it's actually a ball of creation. So
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: some of these things I don't know. I mean just
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: but it just seems like we shouldn't be sending taxpayer
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: money to dubious enterprises overseas, right yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And why are we doing it? Like what exactly
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: is the reason? Is it? Because we want to make
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: friends with these people so the Chinese don't take over
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the Russians don't take over. Okay, how much of that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: is like a good thing, how much of that is
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: smart to do? And how much is a grift? And
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: without any sort of oversight, which has really been going
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: on for so long, they just had free run.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it also we just have real issue with
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the budget deficit. It's gigantic. So like if you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: all things being equal, if if we didn't have a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: gigantic budget deficit where interest payments, the interest on the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: national debt exceeds the Defense Department budget, which is truly astounding,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: which means so we're paying over a trillion dollars of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: interest on the national debt, then okay, we would have
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: more room for wasting money basically, but when when we're
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: spending so much money at the company that the country
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: is going bankrupt, then we really need to stop spending
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: money if unless we're sure it is good value.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: So essentially we're like a poorly managed business with an
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: unlimited credit line that is off the rails. Absolutely, And
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: if you were a person like you are who comes
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: in and takes over businesses and straightens them out, that's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: exactly what you're doing.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, most of the time I create businesses from scratch,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: like Twitter was a case where you know, I bought
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: a company that was I kind of knew it was
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a hair ball.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Well, you came into Tesla in the beginning, but they
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: were already doing something right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: No, Tesla didn't. Tesla did not exist in any meaningful
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: form that there was. There were no employees. Uh JV
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: strubleingout joined three other people, but there was no car,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: There was no nothing.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: So wasn't even a prototype yet?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: No?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought there was a prototype already.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: No, there wasn't even any employees.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Oh was it a fun that's a funny narrative that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: people like to said that you didn't even create Tesla?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Then yeah, that's wrong.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: So if you're handling the government like a business, you're
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: going to have to go through all of these departments
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: and do the exact same thing that you're doing with USA.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: So how do how do you how does that scale up?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Like how many people do you need to do something
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: like that?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Well, we started off with about forty people, maybe one
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: hundred people, and we're really just going through doing very
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: basic things here. It's as bad as Twitter was. The
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: pederal government as much was, so you know, in the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: case of Twitter, it wasn't a profitable company. It was
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: like basically a break even company, but at least it
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was break even and it had to pass an audit.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: The federal government is not break even. It's literally losing
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: two trillion dollars a year and it does not pass
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: its audits. It fails its own audits. So, like, you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: there's a case where of waste. It's mostly waste, it's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: mostly not for it's mostly waste, it's mostly just ridiculous
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: things happening.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Because they've been able to do it this way for
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: so long and they've become accustomed to it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's like Milton Friedman said, like money
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is most poorly spent when when you're spending someone else's
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: money on people you don't know, how much are you
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: going to care? Right, And that's the that's the federal gunment.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: So they're spending someone else's money on people they don't know.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Now, imagine any other business that was this badly run
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: that complains when you want to check the books and
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: audit it and go through all the decisions that have
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: been made and go through all the ledgers and like, yeah,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: what did you do?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Well, the people are receiving the money want to keep
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: receiving the money.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, clearly yes, so.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, I mean the reason I'm the reason
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty so much effort to this is that I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: think it is a very dire situation. It's not a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you know, that's an optional basically. So yeah, yeah, America's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: going bankrupt, so that just can't happen.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's just bizarre to me that some people aren't willing
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to look at it correctly. They're not willing to see
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: like how much chaos this is, how much waste and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: fraud there is, how much, how much can be trimmed,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and how much Just because people have jobs doing bullshit
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean your tax dollars should pay for this bullshit.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, we found just with a basic search of the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Social Security database that there were twenty million dead people
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: are mocked as alive.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: But were they getting money? Some of them are getting money,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: what percentage of them?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It isn't clear. We're actually trying to run the ground.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I was trying to get an answer drive before the show.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: What it looks like is that most of the fraud
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: is not coming from Social Security pay is directly, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: because they are marked as alive in the Social Security database,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that they can get then get disability, unemployment, sort of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: fake medical payments and other things because they're marked is
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: alive in the Social Security database. So it looks like
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: it's a bank The fraud is a bank shot. Essentially,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: they bank shot into social Security. They just do an
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: are you a live check and then get fraudulent payments
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: from every other part of the government. Oh yeah, and
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: this exploits the fundamental weakness in the government is that
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the various government databases they don't talk to each other,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: or they talk to each other very poorly in a
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: very limited way. So the way to the way that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the system gets exploited is is by taking advantage of
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the poor communication between the verius databases in the government.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Give an example of like what's happening, say Treasury, which
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: is improving rapidly the main payments computer. It's called PAM
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: UH like Payments Account Payment Accounts Master Database or something
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like that. But in miracles of PAM that's responsible for
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: almost five trillion dollars payments a year, roughly a billion
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: dollars an hour. And when we came there, we're looking
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: at the payment. It's like the payments have no uh.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: You could put a payment through with with no payment
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: categorization code and no description on the payment, like basically
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: untraceable blank checks. This is the kind of thing that
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: if if it was done as a public company, uh,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the company would be immediately delisted and the executive team
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: would be thrown in prison. But this is just normal
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: at the government. So we said, okay. Our recommendation to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the Treasury and the Federal Reserve is like, we need
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to make the payment categorization codes mandatory, not optional, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you need there needs to be an an explanation. We're
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: not judging the quality of the explanation, but there should
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: be some explanation for what this payment is for above nothing.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: That's a radical change to the system that is being
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: implemented now. My guess is that probably is one hundred
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: billion a year Jesus Christ's well, I might