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Movies & Marketing: Say My Name · Presented by Speaking Human

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  Speaker 1: In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
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  Speaker 1: ever to connect with audiences.
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  Speaker 2: One podcast aims to make sense of it all.
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  Speaker 1: This is movies and Marketing.
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  Speaker 2: Next Saturday Night? Where're sending that to the future?
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, make my day?
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  Speaker 1: How about now you're crazy Dutch past.
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  Speaker 2: What we've got here is failure your mill gate.
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  Speaker 3: Take them around where across all of how for we
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  Speaker 3: might as well with them.
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  Speaker 2: I am an fv I agent. Patrick. Here we are.
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  Speaker 2: If that is even your name, your real name? Maybe
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  Speaker 2: your name should have been the title of the episode.
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  Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Are you ready for
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  Speaker 2: the question? I mean, yeah, sure? Hit me?
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  Speaker 1: What do you got? What's this question you're going to
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  Speaker 1: ask me? On a MoMA of Movies and Marketing podcast
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  Speaker 1: episode released by Speaking Human.
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  Speaker 2: I think people know what they're listening to. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you need to plug it while they're playing it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I got to plug it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I plug it when I'm I plug the podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: should preface that. Okay, sure, anyway, so hit me with it.
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  Speaker 1: What's the question?
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  Speaker 2: What do you got? All right, let's see if you
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  Speaker 2: can get this one.
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  Speaker 3: I think you might be able to get it straight up.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's challenging, but you might be able
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  Speaker 2: to get it straight up. If not, I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: the multiple Okay, we're going back.
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  Speaker 3: We're going back a long ways.
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  Speaker 1: Here, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Which horror film released in nineteen thirty one and based
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  Speaker 2: on a classic novel. It's considered an early example of
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  Speaker 2: a movie titled after it's character, though some might debate
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  Speaker 2: exactly who that character is.
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  Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen thirty one, based on a classic novel, horror film
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  Speaker 2: titled after its main character. Some might debate exactly who
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  Speaker 2: that character is. Uh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Would take a wild guess and say, maybe, like Dracula.
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  Speaker 2: You're in the ballpark.
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  Speaker 3: That's not right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, do I get multiple choice at this point?
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  Speaker 2: Or now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You want the multiple choice?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, give me the easy out, all right, let.
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  Speaker 3: Me give you the multiple choice.
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  Speaker 2: Your choices are A Robin Hood, B Frankenstein see Peter
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  Speaker 2: Pan or D Doctor Jekyl, and mister Hyde of Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason why you said who is because technically
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  Speaker 1: it's Frankenstein's mons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you got doctor Frankenstein, or you have
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  Speaker 2: the creature itself, so a little little tricky then I
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  Speaker 2: thought that might have tipped it over to you a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. But even saying Dracula, you were right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're the age old monsters, the universal
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  Speaker 1: monsters as they're called.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, buds, some might say, and you know, pretty
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  Speaker 2: good for when we're going back to the thirties.
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  Speaker 1: They still live on to this day. They're classics.
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  Speaker 2: Ah yeah, we just just got a Frankenstein movie last year.
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  Speaker 1: We actually got Bride just came out too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dracula last year too. I don't think anybody saw it,
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  Speaker 2: but it was it did come out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't hold a candle to bram Stoker's Dracula,
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  Speaker 1: you know with Keanu whoa.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that one's wild. That's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: So the reason this listener's this topic popped into our
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  Speaker 1: heads is because Michael I believe music can change the worlds.
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  Speaker 2: Jees, spread love, joy in peace. That is what I
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  Speaker 2: want the world to feel.
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  Speaker 1: Magic has headed to theaters on April twenty fourth, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. For those listening to it, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: like twenty thirty or twenty thirty five. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: way back and just seeing that one word title got
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  Speaker 1: us thinking about how often movies are named after the
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  Speaker 1: person at the center of the story, and not just
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  Speaker 1: real people either. We're talking about biopics, right, like Michael, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: those are your real guys, but we could also be
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  Speaker 1: talking about fictional character movies like Napoleon, Dynamite or Coraline
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  Speaker 1: or Aladdin or Beal Juice, Selma, Tarzan, could be anything.
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  Speaker 1: Once you start looking for them, these title characters are
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  Speaker 1: kind of everywhere, and today we're diving into the weird
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  Speaker 1: little world of movies named after these characters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of these when you start, really,
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  Speaker 2: like you mentioned, once you start, it's like the matrix
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  Speaker 2: once you start seeing it, like, oh my god, there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of these. Even Michael. There's an old
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  Speaker 2: you know from the nineties at John Travolta movie named Michael. Right,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't our first Michael.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about this. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of risky because sometimes the audience doesn't even really know
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  Speaker 1: or care about that name or the person, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it might not tell them much of anything about
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  Speaker 1: the movie. So it's a little risky at times.
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  Speaker 2: Especially if you have a negative association with the name. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But before we go deeper into some name movies, we
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  Speaker 2: have a little game. You know, we like to play
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  Speaker 2: some games on this show, so we got kind of
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  Speaker 2: a name game. We'll see if this works. The idea here.
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  Speaker 2: Each of us have three movies where the title is
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  Speaker 2: the main character's name, but we've renamed those movies to
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  Speaker 2: a non name title, and we're going to give the
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  Speaker 2: other person the title to see if they can guess
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  Speaker 2: it from the fake title. If you can't get it
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  Speaker 2: just from the title alone, then we you know that
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  Speaker 2: we can provide that people who are in the movie
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  Speaker 2: as clues. But whoever can get the most correct here wins.
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  Speaker 2: So the example, let me give you an example to explain.
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  Speaker 2: If you're like this makes absolutely no sense. Say you
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  Speaker 2: have Forrest Gump. The alternate title could be running through History.
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  Speaker 2: Not great, not terrible though, but you know you're like,
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  Speaker 2: kind of that makes sense with the movie a little bit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So you give somebody that title. Can they guess Forrest
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  Speaker 2: Gump from there? If not, then you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: well Tom Hanks is in it? All right, Well it's
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  Speaker 2: Tom Hanks and Robin Wright. You know, see if you
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  Speaker 2: can kind of get it from there. That's kind of
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  Speaker 2: the how the game is played.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've taken the liberty of renaming them, almost
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  Speaker 1: as if the studio chickened out and went with something
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  Speaker 1: more descriptive essentially.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know the level of how how
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  Speaker 2: easy or hard do you think yours are or do
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  Speaker 2: you have a variation? Uh minor?
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  Speaker 1: I think I think they're fairly easy. Okay, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like it's always easier when you know the answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: I think most of mine are pretty easy too. I
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  Speaker 2: have a couple of that I'm like, oh, maybe this
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  Speaker 2: is this is a little harder if I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: what the movie was. We'll see how things go.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you and I do this all the time.
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  Speaker 1: We're playing the games with each other right that we
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  Speaker 1: have on the episode. But it's always interesting to me
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  Speaker 1: how listeners come back and say that was so easy,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, how did you not
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  Speaker 1: get that? Whereas like we're we're struggling sometimes with these.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of detectives out there.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of really in the know listeners who
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  Speaker 1: listen to this up this podcast. So it's cool to
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  Speaker 1: hear that feedback, you know, even if it makes us
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  Speaker 1: look like idiots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, in fairness, I get most questions wrong on
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  Speaker 2: this show, but when I'm listening to things at home,
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  Speaker 2: I know every answer to every question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard when you're put on the spot. There's
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  Speaker 1: a real challenge there.
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  Speaker 2: It's true, all right, do you want to give me
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  Speaker 2: your first one? Yeah? So the old title for this movie.
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  Speaker 1: Is the Boy Who Lived.
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  Speaker 3: The Boy who Lived, The Boy who Lived?
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  Speaker 2: Hm, there could be anybody, at least, you know, fifty
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  Speaker 2: percent of the population, or those who didn't die the
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  Speaker 2: Boy who Live?
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  Speaker 1: What is that I can give you a subtle hint
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  Speaker 1: that isn't even part of the game where I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to tell you the clue of the people in it.
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  Speaker 1: But I will tell you something that I know about
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  Speaker 1: you which will help you, okay, is that you're not
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  Speaker 1: you're not a big fan of this and we literally
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  Speaker 1: just talked about it, maybe even before we aired this
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  Speaker 1: cast to night.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, I wish I had a memory of any
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  Speaker 2: event that took place ever before we hit record. Yeah, yeah, nothing, The.
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  Speaker 3: Boy Who Lived?
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  Speaker 2: I may give you an official clue yeah, give me
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  Speaker 2: the official clue. I got nothing here, all right.
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  Speaker 1: One of the actors, Emma Watson.
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  Speaker 2: Harry Potter. Is it Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone?
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  Speaker 2: Is it the original?
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  Speaker 1: It's Harry Potter. Yeah, I'd take it's just just Harry Potter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'd take any I mean, it's you know, Harry Potter.
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  Speaker 1: He's the character, right, the character name.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Daniel Radcliffe would have obviously been the other kid.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to give you a hymn initially because
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  Speaker 1: that's easy.
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  Speaker 2: Time was too easy. Okay, Yeah, that was a good one.
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  Speaker 2: That was that's that is funny. We were talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about it before the cast, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: for like a fan of Harry Potter, I think listeners
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  Speaker 1: out there who are fans of Harry Potter would know
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  Speaker 1: that immediately, like the Boy who Lived, because that's like
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  Speaker 1: literally a quote, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: Harry Potter, the Boy who Lived come to die.
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  Speaker 2: Mm See. If I was more familiar with the material, right,
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  Speaker 2: I would have been all over that. But to me,
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  Speaker 2: I was like this, every boy who's alive is the
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  Speaker 2: boy who lived.
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  Speaker 1: A boy who lived, Like all the boys who have lived.
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  Speaker 2: Well, chock that one up for you. You got that one,
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  Speaker 2: all right? Let me throw one at you. What do
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  Speaker 2: you think of the Ogre's quest?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's got to be Shrek.
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  Speaker 2: That is Shrek.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even need Michael Myers and Eddie Murphy.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think we call Mike Myers. I think Michael
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  Speaker 2: Myers is the killer. You didn't say Edward Murphy. Edward Murphy.
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  Speaker 2: That would be funny though, So you're up one nothing,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: So the title for this movie is small town Boxer
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  Speaker 1: with Big Feelings.
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  Speaker 2: This one I think I know rocky it is. It
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  Speaker 2: is rocky.
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  Speaker 1: Alternate to the alternate would be just simply I of
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  Speaker 1: the Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would be a good one. Also, you know,
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  Speaker 2: probably even a little easier that one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I didn't want to go with that one,
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  Speaker 1: because then, I mean, small town boxer with big feelings
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  Speaker 1: feels like it's kind of easy and but has a
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  Speaker 1: little challenge to it.
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  Speaker 2: I contested a little bit though, he's from Philadelphia, not
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  Speaker 2: really small town.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. I guess that would be.
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  Speaker 2: Big city boxer with big feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or just boxer with big feelings. Sounds nice, Yeah, boxer.
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  Speaker 3: With big feelings woul probably be the way to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, how about this one. I think this,
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  Speaker 2: I think you got this one, but I'll give it
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  Speaker 2: to you. Think different.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Jobs. That is Steve Jobs the bio Pick.
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  Speaker 2: The biopick starring Michael Fassbender and Kate Winslett and Seth
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  Speaker 2: Rogan Brogan. Yeah, everything, let's think it's Seth Green.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, no, not that, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this the Seths of.
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  Speaker 2: The world, all the Seths.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so your third one. The old title for this
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  Speaker 1: movie is dead Guy solves his own problem.
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  Speaker 2: Dead Guy solves his own problem. Yeah, that's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say, Napoleon.
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  Speaker 1: How about I give you the alt of the alt,
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  Speaker 1: which I know will be easier for you.
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  Speaker 2: Give me the alter to the alts. Heres are hard.
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  Speaker 1: He's come for your daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course that gives it.
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  Speaker 3: Beetlejuice.
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  Speaker 1: I had to do it in the voice too. I
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  Speaker 1: could not do not not do that in the voice.
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  Speaker 2: Dead Guy solves his own problem. Does he solve his
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  Speaker 2: own problem?
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  Speaker 1: I mean you know he does. You know he does
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  Speaker 1: solve his own problem in that? Yeah, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: know he's solved. Remember he says like, you got to
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  Speaker 1: solve your own problems. I think didn't he say.
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  Speaker 3: That, Well, I don't know if he says that.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody says it to Alec.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was like, does the lady say it?
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  Speaker 2: They like they're case worker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's a hard one.
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  Speaker 1: That was a hard one. But you got it.
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  Speaker 2: You got it, I mean kind of got it. I
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  Speaker 2: got it with a voice impression, which is which is good.
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  Speaker 1: He's come for your daughter, chick.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you throw me some challenging ones, I'll throw
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  Speaker 2: you a hard one. I don't think you're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: this one.
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  Speaker 3: One man War.
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  Speaker 2: Rambo.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, you got it, you mother?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rambo. It's actually technically Rambo First Blood Part two,
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  Speaker 2: because the first one, as we know, not called Rambo.
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  Speaker 2: It's called First Blood. Yeah, yeah, Rambo. Good. I'm surprised
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  Speaker 2: you got that one. A lot of I feel like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot of movies that could
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  Speaker 2: be one man war.
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  Speaker 1: There could be. I think that's the only one that
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  Speaker 1: I would think of.
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  Speaker 2: Though, John Wick, that could be a one man war.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would call that the Baba Yaga. I would call
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  Speaker 2: that something with something about the dog. Oh yeah, vengeance
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: for a dog, vengeance for it. Well, I think what
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  Speaker 2: we learned here is in most cases, the name title
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  Speaker 2: probably better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know they do have their upsides.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everybody would have loved dead Man solves
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  Speaker 2: its own.
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  Speaker 1: Problems or He's come for your daughter, Chuck, after you
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  Speaker 1: watched the movie, it means more, you know, like Beetlejuice,
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  Speaker 1: it's now classic, it's iconic. It's something that people know
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  Speaker 1: and love and appreciate, whereas before the movie Beetlejuice wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have meant anything to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a couple where I was like, one
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  Speaker 2: of the ones I didn't give you because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is probably two It's well, I know
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  Speaker 2: it's too easy, but I'm like, it's not a bad title,
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  Speaker 2: like the movie Elvis, if they would have called it
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  Speaker 2: the King of rock and Roll. Yeah, it's not a
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  Speaker 2: bad I mean, you still kind of get it. But
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  Speaker 2: everybody knows the name Elvis, so how can you not.
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  Speaker 2: And then occasionally there were some I was thinking of
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  Speaker 2: where it's just like instead of the movie as kind
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  Speaker 2: of you did with Beetlejuice, Like what if you just
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  Speaker 2: take a lot like a famous line from the movie,
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  Speaker 2: like Jerry Maguire becomes show me the money. You know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not a bad title. But you don't know until after
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  Speaker 2: the movie comes out that that line is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: like a catch online.
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  Speaker 1: True, and especially the people within the studio probably they
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  Speaker 1: thought that was a great scene to leave in the movie,
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  Speaker 1: but they never would have guessed that it would be
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  Speaker 1: as a hit as it was. When that movie came out,
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  Speaker 1: people were saying it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, it becomes like an iconic thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: repeatable line. It's hard to pick that out ahead of time.
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  Speaker 2: What about Osha violations in Candyland? That'd be Willy Wonka,
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  Speaker 2: Willy Wonka. Yeah, oh, that's really funny.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta admit a lot of problems with
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  Speaker 1: that movie.
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  Speaker 2: I see nothing wrong with it. I like what's going
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  Speaker 2: on there. I like showing kids how to act.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe there's a million of these that would
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  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun to explore, but we kept it.
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  Speaker 1: We kept it to an honest three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's good for this game. There's probably
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  Speaker 2: limitations on how long you can go with that. So
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  Speaker 2: the second part of this is we each kind of
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  Speaker 2: picked out a movie named after the main character to
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  Speaker 2: talk about and you know why it works or doesn't work,
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  Speaker 2: and you know how they kind of marketed the movie
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. What was your movie? You've kind of
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  Speaker 2: grabbed for this your spotlight.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't mean to cheat a little on this,
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  Speaker 1: but this was part of my game. Mine is Rocky?
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  Speaker 2: H Okay? Yeah, isn't thing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the best uses of a character
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  Speaker 1: named title in my opinion, because Rocky tells you almost
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  Speaker 1: nothing like we said on paper, but emotionally it tells
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  Speaker 1: you everything wants. The marketing kicks in. It's short, it's punchy,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds tough, it feels like a contender before you
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  Speaker 1: even know the plot. And the marketing really did the rest.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the posters, the trailers, the underdog framing of
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  Speaker 1: the training imagery and everything that surround the movie. It
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  Speaker 1: built it into a brand, and it became bigger than
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the guy. It became shorthand for grit and perseverance and
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: sweat and stares. Stares, maybe even raw eggs if you
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: were a boxer. But the title works because the character
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: is the product. You're not just selling the boxing movie.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: You're selling this guy, his personality and his struggle and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you know, his rise. Would a more descriptive title had
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: have helped. I think maybe if the movie were unknown
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and terrible, but the character is so strong, and he
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: became timeless because of how simple the title of the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: movie is, you know. I mean it was an emotional story. Yes,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: everybody loves an underdog story. But if that movie had
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: been called The Philadelphia Underdog, it just wouldn't be the same.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It would sound like a made for TV sports drama
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: or something, you know, So I would say rock Rocky
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: has got all the right ingredients of that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What I like about that one too, is the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: name itself kind of has connotations as a word. You know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: it's like a rocky road. It's a tough path to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: get there, So you kind of have feelings a little
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: bit in advance, even before you know anything about it,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: you know, just seeing that word and seeing the imagery
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: which I can picture in my mind just immediately, the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like poster of Rocky on the steps with his like
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: hands raised in the air. It's so hard to separate now,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: especially something like Rocky that's really been embedded in your
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: head for like decades to try to think about how
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: that was when you knew nothing about this and you're
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: just like, here's this guy. He's like got his hands up.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: This is some kind of like sports story, I guess,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: But who is this Rocky?
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're right. You know, the name has so
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: many other connotations that fit the movie and the character
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and the struggle that he went through and all of that.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: You know, so there's so many layers to that even
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: without knowing who that character is yet. And then once
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you see the story, then it becomes something sort of
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it transcends the original meaning of the word, right, like
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you said, Rocky, like this path that he took, the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: ups and downs that he had, then it becomes more
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: about the perseverance of that. It's just such a good
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: example of you know, the named character title movie.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Interesting thing about that too is you know that came
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: out nobody knew who Stallone was, so you didn't even
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: have that kind of connection. A lot of these movies
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: where they're like name movies that are really relying heavily
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: in the marketing on the star. You know, you think
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: about like a Jerry Maguire or a Forrest Gump where
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: john Wick. You know, Rambo was even after Stallone was
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: like famous, but Aaron Brockovich, They're like, really leading, we
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: got a big star for this.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: The name is them.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: This is all about this character and Rocky was doing this.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: But it was like, nobody knows who this guy is.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: So it's not just like come see it because you
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: know hot alone, because nobody knew him.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: At that point.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't even look this up, but it was huge
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: hit one hundred and seventeen million.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: That's probably accurate. I think it was the biggest movie
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: of its year.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's lifetime, so I guess
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: they're taking into account something else.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: But good old.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Rocky small hey, small time Philadelphia boxer, not small town.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I should have done with There you go
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a small time. He was very small time. I think
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it's a clear winner, right in terms of it was
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the best choice and the name helped the marketing in
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: this case.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Was that's a good question, was the name of a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: positive if it had what did you say, like the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia underdog? Would that name have helped it more? Initially
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: because people have been like, okay, I know what this is.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Were people who just knew nothing about it, Like Rocky,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at the time, seventy six, I think Rocky
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it was a simple name. This kind of story also
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: seemed like it was of the time. If you had
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: this movie today, would this movie be as successful? I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: don't think it would.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. But we've also had this
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: movie so many times, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: at the time, it was something kind of fresh. But yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that. I could say
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the name helped. The name became iconic, you know, over time,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: but I don't know that it Initially the marketing I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: don't know that it was like what a positive this
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: is called Rocky. But I think the fact that you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Stallone became a star off this. He wrote the movie's
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: titled after him, They made all these sequels. It definitely
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: became a boom. Initially, I'm sure marketing this.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Was like, how are we gonna what are we gonna do?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because there's been eleven movies now.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: So that's insane.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I think it helped. Let's just say it helped.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, looking, it's almost impossible to divorce yourself from
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the history that's in, you know, behind us.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unless we go back in time.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Be fun to go back in time and talk to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: somebody and be like, what do you think about this
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: movie that's.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Coming out, and be like, Rocky.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, Like who's this guy?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: So for mine, you know, I went with something a
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: little more recent and a different type of movie. I
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: went with the movie.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Borat oh okay.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: From two thousand and six. This one obviously named after
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the main character in the movie. This entire movie kind
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: of revolves around this guy and this story about how he,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: you know, comes to America from a different country, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the kind of comedy that ensues as he interacts with people.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Some of its kind of you know, real life hidden
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: camera stuff. Big Hit made a lot of money. Some
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: people consider it one of the great comedies of our time.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: This I think worked because the whole movie is just
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: this guy right interacting with people. It's not a plot
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: heavy movie. There's not even like, you know, Rocky, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: have like this underdog story. Borat's more just like this
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: is him, his behavior, his interaction, basically letting this character loosen.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: The comedy kind of flying from there. So I think
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the name got people curious a little bit, but it
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: was also like, what is this is this? Is this
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a comedy? You even like, look at the poster? Is
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: this a foreign film? I think that's why they tacked
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: on the subtitle it's Borat Colwan Cultural Learnings of America
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: for make benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstun, which you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: then you get an indication, Okay, this is a comedy
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: but a little you know, a little more challenging. But
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: one of the things that was kind of a boom
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: for the marketing was they had kind of Borat appearing
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: different places, you know, in interviews and stuff like that.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Sasha Baron Cohm was in this character doing like TV
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: appearances stuff like that. So it's kind of getting the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: audience a chance almost like I can't separate is this
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: a real person or not?
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: And then once the movie got going again, the word
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: of mouth, the quotes, everything like that kind of spreading
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: rapidly around. I don't know, what do you think of
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: this one? What do you think of this this name?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And obviously the benefit and the challenge here.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, like I think the campaign for this
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: movie where he was doing all his TV appearances and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like going out to places and like, you know, showing
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: his outrageous personality, you know, as this character m It
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't really asking do you want to see this movie?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: It was like have you seen this insane guy yet?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's what people were asking, is this
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: is insane. It just seems weird and crazy. And that's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: kind of how they built something into the name itself,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: because nobody really knew what that was. We're at it's
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: not really selling the plot or anything like that, but.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: It's a comedy, so there and there really isn't much
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: of a plot.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's okay. It's like Rocky said, you don't
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: know what it is, so that that name doesn't mean
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: anything up front. It was really the marketing that really
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: sold it, I think, because it was kind of like
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: how Tom Green would do really weird things, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: around his movies and people would be like, oh, he's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: like a crazy comedian. He just says off the wall things.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: This is kind of how this was. It felt very
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: much like the actor was selling the character so that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: people knew what they were walking into.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I go back to the language a little
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: bit though, too. You have this word. Obviously to Americans,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: it's like a strange word. But Borat, we've got bor
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you know, which could be like the word meaning like
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: an obnoxious person, a bore. And then you have rat
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: also in there. So just these like little associations and
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: language that you're like subconsciously making. And if you look
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: at this, just like Rocky, it's an unusual name, which
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: kind of peaks the curiosity as opposed to like a
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Michael or a Joe, right, plus Rocky five letter words,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: so they kind of roll off easy. You know, it's distinct,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: make some kind of memorable, and then you know they're
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: just these little things you kind of read into these
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: words a little subconsciously. I think they could have called
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: it the Uncomfortable International Chaos Tour. They could have called
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: it that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: He definitely haunted pop culture for a while.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there were bad impressions going around for at
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: least another a decade after this.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You know my name a boot At.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: You loved Borat, didn't you.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I still love Boratt. I still think Borat is hilarious.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I saw this movie in a theater that was so
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: packed I had to like sit in the front row,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: like falling off the left side because there was just
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: no seats left in there. It just played like crazy.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: It sounds like a good time, and it also left
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: an impression with you being in there with all those
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: people that were people laughing hysterically. Was it that kind
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of audience?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, riotously? I mean non, it was on stop laughter.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: See, I didn't see it in the theater, So that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: probably why I don't have as much love for Borat
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: as you do.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And even on when it was on DVD. Then this
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: is one of those movies we would watch kind of
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: over and over, like be and my friends.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: H that's a good one.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That's a good one.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And it's very unique in that you don't really know
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: what to expect when you hear the name. But then again,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like I think all character title names, you know unless
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you know who it's about. Like so if it's a
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: real person versus a fictional character, like people didn't really
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: know anything about Shrek.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: It's true. Unless you're relying on a big actor to
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: kind of bring something to it that people are like, oh, Okay,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: this guy, this star, I know what kind of they're
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: bringing to it. A little bit, you usually have no idea.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: You're just like, oh, what is that about Jack Reacher.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I guess there's something there because there's the novels that
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: people were familiar with that so maybe not a great example.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Brockovich, she's a real person, but no,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he really knew about her. I mean, these are all
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: names that like, until you've seen the movie, then you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: create a connection with that character's name. Even if it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: a real person, they're not really a character, they're a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: real person.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess the one thing you get when you
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: when you get one of those titles, the one thing
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: you know is you're gonna be I'm gonna be digging
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: in with this person. I'm following this person. I'm diving
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: in with them. It's I'm not going to see a
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: movie where I'm like following twenty five characters. It's this
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: this person and me like, this is who I'm hanging
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: with the whole time, for better or worse. For better, Yeah, exactly.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You want to see a movie about Amadeis, go see Amedeis.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So we hope that this makes a lot of sense
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to you as a listener, But there's probably a zillion
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: movies out there. I know there's a zillion movies out
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: there that we haven't even touched on. What's one that
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you love? Leave us feedback because we'd love to hear that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your what's your favorite character title movie? I
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: gotta say, we go on a list of these movies.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: This almost always works for me. Mm hmm, Like almost
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: every time a movie is like titled after the main character.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'd have to look deeper to find the ones
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I don't like, because almost every time when we're doing this,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I guess because you're just really digging into the character.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I almost always like these movies.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of hard to judge them and say
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that they don't work. Maybe there's this, like there's a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: confidence to that movie when you name it after the character,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, that confidence is like
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the studio saying this is solid, we have to name
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: this after the character. Maybe that's what's happening there.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I think it usually starts with the script and they're
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: just like we're hanging with this person, We're going the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: whole way with them. I think we need more of them,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Give me more, give me, like John Smith Fall twenty
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: twenty seven, Shad Connolly Coming Somewhere twenty twenty nine.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I'd go see it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it does sound I mean, I've told you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: this before you got that name. You know, it's almost
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like a secret agent Connelly.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: We didn't even didn't even mention this. James Bond, very
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: well known characters. None of his movies are James Bond.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You know. They all have actual titles or different, non
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: non character named titles.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we couldn't include them. Otherwise that might
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: have been better than Rocky, might have been the quin
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: essential right there.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just surprising. They never you know, even the first
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: one wasn't called James Bond.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: H So the thing we've been doing, and we like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to do, we talk a little bit about upcoming movies
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: or pieces of movie marketing that we've seen out in
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the ether. What have you seen out there, Shad, What
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: are you excited about right now?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I didn't really have a thing
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: that's coming that I wanted to spotlight. But what what
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I'm excited about what's going on right now is the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: box office is buzzing right now. We've got at this
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: moment of recording anyway. You know, Project tail Mary opened
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: big and only dropped like thirty percent the second weekend,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: which is pretty crazy. So that movie's doing Gangbusters doing,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I think, much better than both of us predicted. It's
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: going to do higher than that. We've got a super
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Mario Brothers movie opening, which is going to make a
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: lot of green play really good with the kids. We've
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: got an a twenty four movie opening, We've got a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: bunch of smaller horror movies out. I feel like we're
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: just we're going. We're at a pretty good point in
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: terms of like the diversity of stuff we have released
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and the you know, numbers we're getting at the box office.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like movies are back. People are going, young
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: people are going, and I'm just I'm feeling good about it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I hope it continues, especially into the summer. Yeah, me too.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I think we're ready for this, right, We've been ready
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: for a resurgence. We had a hand full of years
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: were tough. We didn't know what was going on. We
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: were a little.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Scared, slim pickens. In terms of movies, mm hmm.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I'm super excited about some of the stuff that's coming
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: out right now, like unique movies, sometimes stories that we
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: haven't seen before, or you know, it's maybe just just
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a new way to tell the same kind of story.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there and say, nothing's new, Yeah,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it's all been done. Yeah, which you know, Okay, I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: get it. Formulas are very much of the same sometimes
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and things like that. But it's kind of exciting also.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: You know, I was trying to remember exactly what we
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: predicted on our project hill Mary, but I think did
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I overshoot you a little?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You did? You were higher than me, so I might
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: be closer. You went a little higher than or you know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: you went higher than me domestic and I went higher worldwide.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I think is what happened.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I see, So we might both win in this one.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're probably gonna end up splitting in terms of that.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been out for like less than two weeks,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and it's already at one hundred and seventy seven million
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in the US alone.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't have any challengers this weekend, and this
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: is the holiday weekend.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it's got the Super Mario Brothers movie. Yeah. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's taking Imax screens it might be.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but nobody cares about that movie. I mean, everybody
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: knows that as soon as I say that about an
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: animated movie.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It goes through the roof.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the biggest box office you know movie that's ever.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: So here's what I will say. I sent this over
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to you via Slack recently. I'm really interested in this.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: The End of Oak Street official teaser.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I think our helps, our neighborhood, our whole street has moved.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ron, this is a movie that's got
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway, Ew and McGregor. It's due out in August
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of this year. Let me just tell you the little
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: plot summary. This may or may not be the official
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: plot summary, by the way, depending on where you go,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: but it's about a mysterious cosmic event that rips Oak
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Street from suburbia and transports a neighborhood to someplace unknown.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It surrounds the Platte family, who soon discovers that their
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: very survival depends on sticking together as they navigate there
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: now unrecognizable surroundings. The End of Oak Street anyway looks
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: really interesting. Don't know what it's about, don't know why
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I want to see it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I kind of do. Yeah, it's unique in that way.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I think it looks good. Produced by Jja Brim's fingerprints
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: on it. Definitely has a little bit of a Spielberg
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: vibe to it. Yeah, I like that it's coming out
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: in August two. I think this could be you know,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that's like usually like a slower period. I like that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: there's a movie like kind of staking its claim. I
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: could be like a weapons was last year and just
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: played pretty well. Could be a sleeper pick in our
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: summer movie draft.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: It's true. It fits right there at the end, doesn't it. Yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: this one could be fun. But I think all in all,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: it's pretty exciting out there right now with movies.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a lot cooking up, and again we're
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: just getting to the tip of the summer movie season.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: The tip of the summer movie spear. Some might say,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: all right, well, we we love you guys out there
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: listening to the episodes, but that's it for movies and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: marketing until next time. Let's fade to black.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I would be back. He's not coming back.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Eight