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We Talk Back: Peri Who? feat. Dr. Kelly Elmore · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's doctor Kelly om Z and I'm on
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  Speaker 1: We Talked Back Podcast. I can't wait for you to
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  Speaker 1: hear us talk about perimenopause and menopause. We're gonna give
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  Speaker 1: you some real information so that you can keep it wet,
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  Speaker 1: clean and fantastic through your forties and fifties.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to We talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 2: and the Black Effect Network Talk Talk.
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  Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion. Who
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  Speaker 1: talks back. What's up, y'all? It's your girl, a j Holiday,
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  Speaker 1: what's up? Tam Bam? Hey y'all, it's Beet Tam Vam.
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  Speaker 1: I love y'all so so very much, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: y'all came back. I'm miss Jake. How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 2: How your weekend? Probably be in their car. They probably
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  Speaker 2: be in their car like AJ Gonna says, Tamgo sad age,
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  Speaker 2: and then tam Go say, how is your weekend? They
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  Speaker 2: saying it with you like and then.
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  Speaker 1: A Gonna say, i'd eventful, I ain't do mind that thing.
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  Speaker 1: I went to cost Co.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely went to Costco. Definitely went to TJ Max
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  Speaker 2: and my super bright light skinned homegirl who's been in
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  Speaker 2: town since. I was like, I don't know, twelve came
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  Speaker 2: by this weekend, so I ain't too much, just chilling
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  Speaker 2: and being grateful. I did go see my mom. I
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  Speaker 2: hung out with her a little bit on Sunday. I
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  Speaker 2: know she loves it when I come sit over there
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  Speaker 2: line your whole day be gone. But I don't know this.
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  Speaker 2: I worked out a little bit and that's about it.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't too much this weekend for real. I really
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  Speaker 2: just relaxed and chilled.
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  Speaker 1: I was just working. It's that time of year where
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  Speaker 1: I'm busy, you know, Thank you Jesus. So I've just
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  Speaker 1: been working. I had nothing eventful happened. Oh no, I lie.
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  Speaker 1: I went to you always.
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  Speaker 2: It's like.
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  Speaker 1: I went to a my teeth lived white as hell.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's that.
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  Speaker 2: I was just about to say that bitch, like, what
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  Speaker 2: the fuck, nop, he's super white.
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  Speaker 1: It's the I think it's the light. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but anyway, I went to this new spot in Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: called Astra Mediterranean something lounge, and it was like one
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  Speaker 1: of those it was like a halal place, but it
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  Speaker 1: had the hookah and it's loud. It was good. You know.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have an alcohol, but I don't want none
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  Speaker 1: of that anyway. And I had some food and it
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  Speaker 1: was nice. And then I went to Crave and Dessert
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  Speaker 1: Bar and I got a That's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: spots in Charlotte. I still love Crave. Yes, just consistent, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: consistent quality. And I had like a little hookah little
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  Speaker 1: cocktail and uh, carrot cake cupcake. Yes, and that was it.
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  Speaker 2: That was We don't eat the bread pudding from there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a bread pudding girly girl. Yeah, I've never
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  Speaker 2: had bread putting out that I think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you tripping when I tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Me and Basilicia just go there for the bread pudding
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  Speaker 2: because they give you you know, it's like a little
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  Speaker 2: little saucer and a rampkin. That's what they call it,
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  Speaker 2: a little ramkin. And they have like the ramikan and
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  Speaker 2: they have the like the frosty sauce, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: white shit. What is it called iced? I used to
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  Speaker 2: have like icing, yeah, like a little thing on the side. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a super duper uh what is this ship?
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  Speaker 2: Bread pudding girly, But I did grow up off a
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  Speaker 2: bread pudding. And they have a very very very very
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  Speaker 2: good bread pudding. If they still have it on the menu,
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  Speaker 2: you should try it next time.
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  Speaker 1: I'll try it. I've never had bread pudding. Always associated
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  Speaker 1: bread pudding and fruitcake. It's the same thing, like forge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just theirs is really good.
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  Speaker 1: Like so old hot food.
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  Speaker 2: It is old people food, because old people when like
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  Speaker 2: the bread is about to get old, they just turn
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  Speaker 2: that shit into bread, right. Our French toast, French TOAs
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  Speaker 2: have a little mold on it, old ass bread.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was it sounds fun.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get in the sin, y'all. So Paul Pears says
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  Speaker 2: the only way to really know if a girl loves
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  Speaker 2: you is a cheat on her and see how she reacts.
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  Speaker 2: So is this his podcast? I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so. I mean, Paul Parris is one of the
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  Speaker 2: biggest basketball players all time, right, and he's on this
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  Speaker 2: Truth after Dark podcast, and he sparked a lot of
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  Speaker 2: backlash by claiming that the only authentic way to determine
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  Speaker 2: if a woman truly loves you is the cheat on
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  Speaker 2: her and observe her reaction. He suggested that loyalty in
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  Speaker 2: the aftermath of infidelity proves devotion that is disgusting. And
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of us, a lot of women,
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  Speaker 2: and I have really been thinking, like, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you you go through some shit in and stay stated
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  Speaker 2: down ass woman like, he's gonna choose you type mentality.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I ain't never been a dumb bitch in
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  Speaker 2: that way. I definitely have dealt with infidelity and relationships
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  Speaker 2: only really because it's just human nature. Like, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't recognize now I don't have to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, does sound crazy, Like what in the hell?
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  Speaker 2: Don't test me because you're gonna fail every fucking time married.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's p paris married.
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  Speaker 1: He can't be married.
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  Speaker 2: The type of shit he be talking in there, talking
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  Speaker 2: about it, get it, get a live or seven if
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  Speaker 2: you are okay. The worst part is these are old
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  Speaker 2: farts talking like this. These are old ass fucking men
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  Speaker 2: like you know. And then he said the best way
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  Speaker 2: to see if a girl loves you. That's the problem
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  Speaker 2: right there, y'all fucking with girls.
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  Speaker 1: Girls are not grown.
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  Speaker 2: By a woman. Okay, because women be making niggas cry. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm gonna make you cry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna break Christmas thing. I'm getting the fun up
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  Speaker 1: out of there.
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  Speaker 2: It's so toxic, really is So basically you want to
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  Speaker 2: hurt the person you say you love because that's what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing, right to see if they love you.
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  Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, you don't love her, You don't love her. Advice,
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  Speaker 1: don't listen to that nigga. You go find yourself alone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also you're not a millionaire, okay, so don't look.
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  Speaker 2: Don't listen to a ball and ass baller.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: The type of should he be doing, y'all, not the
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  Speaker 2: same what you're going to.
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  Speaker 1: Lose because she loved him. She might stay because it's
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  Speaker 1: comfortable exactly like.
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  Speaker 2: Her her uh, her lifestyle is just completely different. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So you're trying to compare ourselves to Beyonce and jay
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  Speaker 2: Z relationship when we use the relationships with y'all and niggas, right,
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  Speaker 2: So don't be this is But the thing is is
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  Speaker 2: that he doesn't say anything that I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: men already think. Right, he's just saying the things out
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  Speaker 2: loud because I really I remember when I broke up
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  Speaker 2: with my ex most recently, like leading up to it,
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  Speaker 2: he was like, we ain't supposed to break up, Like
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  Speaker 2: he mentioned his other friends right, and how they went
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  Speaker 2: through all these things and she stayed like I've already
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  Speaker 2: went through things and stayed I don't feel like going
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  Speaker 2: through anything else. Nigga, you putting me out? Are you dumb?
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  Speaker 2: She's dumb.
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  Speaker 1: You've reached the quota, nigga, like you way past the.
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  Speaker 2: Threshold of bullshit. And my tolerance for bullshit is so
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  Speaker 2: fucking high because I just understand human nature, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And I'm not a fucking loser. So
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  Speaker 2: even in relationships, I'm gonna try my fucking best. But
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  Speaker 2: at what point do you think you can can discontinuously
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  Speaker 2: be disloyal and a relationship and the woman is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to keep you and stay like bitch, just get tired
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  Speaker 2: right here. And the thing is that I don't never
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  Speaker 2: think I can't do better. I can do comparable to
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  Speaker 2: you or greater every.
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  Speaker 1: Time, every single time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think women just gotta up they self esteem. Man,
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  Speaker 2: Get the fuck up out of there. Whether he got
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  Speaker 2: money or not, get your own bag.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that part, all right? Listen to this, Listen
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  Speaker 1: to this. A wanted man in Ohio sent the police
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  Speaker 1: a selfie after seeing his photo on the news. Because
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  Speaker 1: he didn't like how I look and it wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: most flattering picture of hearing y'all. So a man in
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  Speaker 1: Ohio made headlines after sending police a selfie because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't like the muck shots shown on the news. Identified
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  Speaker 1: as Donald Pugh, he was wanted for skipping a court
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  Speaker 1: appearance and linked to other cases like arson and vandalism.
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  Speaker 1: He even emailed the police saying his muck shot was
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  Speaker 1: terrible and offered a better photo of himself wearing sunglasses
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  Speaker 1: in the car. Police think for being helpful, but reminded
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  Speaker 1: him to rather see him in person to discuss his charges.
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  Speaker 1: History quickly with viral proven that crime and vanity don't
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  Speaker 1: mix well.
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  Speaker 2: But as he in jail, though, the nigga saw himself
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  Speaker 2: in the news. All y'all got me fucked up here, And.
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  Speaker 1: The photo, y'all, the photo that he seeing is much better.
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  Speaker 1: It's a better undil hate nas police. They know they
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  Speaker 1: could have picked a better picture than that, right, They
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  Speaker 1: trying to make me look like a hardened criminal, right.
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  Speaker 2: He probably he definitely probably wanted for some scamming shit, okay.
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  Speaker 1: To be like mentally ill to do this right or
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  Speaker 1: not give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's just having fun, Like I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 2: to jail anyway, man, Let me just might as well.
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  Speaker 1: Look joy my time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a what two chain song fresh his head when
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  Speaker 2: the fans comes, head, when the fans come, That's what
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  Speaker 2: he was doing.
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  Speaker 1: This nigga. I know he from young Town, Ohio. He's
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  Speaker 1: got to be.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was from Harlem.
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  Speaker 1: No oh hi, oh yeah. They're flashing people too and her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't take no fuck up picture of me, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: So remember last week we were talking about and I
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  Speaker 2: know you've probably seen it now, this black woman I
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  Speaker 2: think they were in.
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  Speaker 1: Was it Ohio? California? Might have been California. That's happened
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  Speaker 1: at a Golden gym, Tish Hyman.
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  Speaker 2: She accused this man of exposing himself essentially in the
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  Speaker 2: woman's locker room, and he says he's a transgender woman
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  Speaker 2: and he belongs in a women's locker room. The gem
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  Speaker 2: ultimately kicked her out, the woman Tish Hyman, and basically
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  Speaker 2: canceled her membership after she, you know, was yelling in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the of the goals gym, like what
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  Speaker 2: the fuck is wroman?
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  Speaker 1: Y'all?
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  Speaker 2: It's a grown man in the bathroom. But this week, y'all,
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  Speaker 2: apparently this same man transgender person accused of exposing himself
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  Speaker 2: in women's locker room was convicted of brutally beating his
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  Speaker 2: ex wife.
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  Speaker 1: Before take get her Name?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Tiss was not wrong for calling his ass out.
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  Speaker 2: And first of all, when are you going to transition?
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  Speaker 2: When are you gonna actually transition? When are you gonna
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  Speaker 2: cut that dick off? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Because if you still got it, you got a transition,
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  Speaker 1: because can you can you be called trans if you
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  Speaker 1: still have your uh birth parts?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like to me, I thought that
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  Speaker 2: trans meaning the woman or the man has transitioned, transitioned
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  Speaker 2: into the other sex by way of the sex change.
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  Speaker 2: If there hasn't been a sex change, and there hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been a legal name change, and this person just can
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  Speaker 2: pull up and female women's spaces, that's a problem because
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  Speaker 2: I don't think any trans man is pulling up in
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  Speaker 2: the men's restroom, right, So this is just men trying
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  Speaker 2: to DeBow women's spaces. And again from last week, a Tiss,
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  Speaker 2: she's a she's a lesbian woman, right, So the transider person, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it happened in Los Angeles bathroom. Now being convicted of
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  Speaker 2: so his now ex wife while living in Ohio as
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  Speaker 2: a man before taking the victim's name as their own.
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  Speaker 1: Alex Black ran a file of.
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  Speaker 2: Women, ran a foul ran a file of women at
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  Speaker 2: a gym in Beverly Hills, including singer songwriter Tis Hymen,
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  Speaker 2: who accused them of exposing himself and harassing her in
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  Speaker 2: the locker room. You could just see him pulling up
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  Speaker 2: in there like he's supposed to be in there.
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  Speaker 1: See, this is why I don't like that. And from
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  Speaker 1: the pictures he didn't. And this is where I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's a slippery soap, because slope because he didn't
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  Speaker 1: look like he was trying to identify as a woman
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  Speaker 1: for real to me, because he didn't. He looked like
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  Speaker 1: a man with earrings. Song. That was it. But then
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  Speaker 1: I know women who look like men with earrings? Song?
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  Speaker 1: So how do you no? I trying to be funny.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it like that, you know, Like, so how
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  Speaker 1: do you say, like, this person isn't trends or how
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  Speaker 1: you say this person isn't like how do you determine that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 2: You determine it? By your genetic makeup. You were born
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  Speaker 2: a man, I was born a woman, okay, just because
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  Speaker 2: you have slick back here with errings on and a
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  Speaker 2: woman can also appear like that. Being a woman is
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  Speaker 2: not about esthetic it's science. It is genetics.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's why even you know, at the doctor's office, they
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  Speaker 2: still have like on a on your paperwork. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they ask you. They want to be inclusive, right, so
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  Speaker 2: they have all the things that in man where you,
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  Speaker 2: but they ultimately ask were you born male or female?
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  Speaker 2: That's we're not talking about what somebody look like. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: there are definitely women that look like men, but genetically
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  Speaker 2: there's still a woman and they belong in female spaces, right.
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  Speaker 2: Women are not out here trying to vie. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that man just wants to see women naked and
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  Speaker 2: he's doing it under the guise of being transgendered.
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  Speaker 1: Especially with the history of domestic violence against women and
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  Speaker 1: the instilling identity mm hmmm. A lot of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those people, they're.
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  Speaker 2: Like mean, they are mean, and you know, like that
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  Speaker 2: is a telltale sign that your man might be okay
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  Speaker 2: on the down low. If he's mean to you, if
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  Speaker 2: he's putting his hands on you. If he's being belligerent
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  Speaker 2: and abusive towards you, they don't like you. They don't
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  Speaker 2: like you, and oftentimes they might be battling their sexuality
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  Speaker 2: and taking it out on you. How dare you get
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  Speaker 2: to be a real woman? And you know, and they
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  Speaker 2: are the main ones that are so upset and at
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  Speaker 2: arms about men who can live freely, gay men, transgendered,
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  Speaker 2: transen transgendered women who are out right don't give a
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  Speaker 2: fuck with no nobody thinks about it. It's the d
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  Speaker 2: L men that are dangerous. Those are the dangerous ones. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: angry hold, let me add this on it, y'all. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen this postal Instagram. This girl she was like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: somebody said that if your man farn a lot, he
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  Speaker 2: might be del and I had to think. I had
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  Speaker 2: to think back, Okay, big girl, bye, No, because the
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  Speaker 2: bitches in the comments, listen, what's up with your what's
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  Speaker 2: up with your gut?
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  Speaker 1: My guy?
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  Speaker 2: What is up with your uh your uh gastro system? Like,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? Why is your booty clapping so fucking much?
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  Speaker 2: I'm girl all on One bitch commented and said she
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  Speaker 2: was arguing with her ex husband and he had farnted
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  Speaker 2: and she said, why the fuck your fart smell like lube?
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  Speaker 2: I commented, that's mad. Damn, I'm so mad that I'll
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  Speaker 2: fuck with niggas that I gotta violate like this anymore,
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  Speaker 2: because I would definitely have that in the arsenal. Your
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  Speaker 2: hearts smell like.
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  Speaker 1: Lube, that is ridiculous, That is asinine, I bet, while
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  Speaker 1: your fart smell like loube is crazy. Y'all. We have
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  Speaker 1: a guest on today, doctor Kelly. She is talking Perry
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  Speaker 1: menopause and menopause with us. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: You are crazy, all right, y'all. So today we're turning
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  Speaker 2: up the heat, okay literally because we're talking Perry menopause.
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  Speaker 1: This is what tam, we want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, we are not going through this phase yet, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we just want to see what Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not very sure. That's why I have questions, you know, because.
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  Speaker 2: Right because exactly so it's like that in between stage
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  Speaker 2: and your body like we ain't done yet but definitely changing. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So today we have the incredible doctor Kelly Elmore. When
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  Speaker 2: we talked back, she's a board certified OBG Y n
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  Speaker 2: retired Navy captain. Okay see, she's the boss, cap you
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  Speaker 2: get her and say okay right, and founder of Koe
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  Speaker 2: Medical Consulting. She's dedicated to helping women lead, live, thrive
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  Speaker 2: through every stage of life, including this one that me
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  Speaker 2: and Tammy are not going through. Yeah, y'all, aren't we all?
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  Speaker 1: Aren't we all? Aren't y'all? Thank you for joining us, Darna, Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: I really really appreciate you coming on talking to us
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  Speaker 1: and our listeners. Absolutely, I'm I'm here for it. This
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  Speaker 1: is what I love. I tell people I love what
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  Speaker 1: I do, who I do it for, and who I
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  Speaker 1: do it with. So that's my job. So tell us
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  Speaker 1: how you got into because, like are y'all before the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: show started, she says she was darting to Kelly since
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  Speaker 1: she was six years old. So tell us about how
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  Speaker 1: you got into becoming a doctor. Like your background. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I tell people all the time I was called to
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  Speaker 1: the pool pit of medicine. First, I want to say
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  Speaker 1: thank you both for having me on your wonderful show.
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  Speaker 1: I was gone to the pool pit of medicine very early.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have doctors in my immediate family. As a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, I was the first one to go
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and complete college, so you know, everything after that, I
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: was the first for that as well. But when I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: was a little girl, I you know, something told me
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: in my spirit that I wanted to be a physician.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: And then one day I was watching KPBS. I think
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I might have been nine or ten years old, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: they were showing the first laparoscopic hiss directed me. My
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: mom walked through the door, like, what are you watching?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Because if you can imagine a woman is like in
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: a certain position having the surgery.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Knew well.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: She was like, what are you watching? And I'm like,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a laparostopic hiss directed me and she was like, did
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you what is that? And I said, well, that's what
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I want to do. And I used to watch this
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: show called Heartbeat, which was all about obgyns, and I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: was like, and that's what I want to do too. Wow.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So I decided that I wanted to, you know, be
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the safe place for women, especially because I have a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: history of domestic violence in my family, that I wanted
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to be that safe place for women to express what's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: going on not just with their bodies, but also spiritually, physically, financially, mental,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: them emotionally, so when you come to me, we having
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a full conversation. Right, Well, it's not like you a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: servant of the Lord, because goodness, all right, I have
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: a question, all right, what's one myth about menopause you
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: wish women would stop believing one myth about menopause? Well,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: this is an interesting question because right now they're actually
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: changing the FDA black box warning on hormone replacement therapy.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So a lot of people thought that they could not
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: utilize hormone replacement for the last twenty years due to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: an article that came out or a study that came
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: out that told them, you know, it's going to kill them.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: They're going to get more breast cancer, cardiovascular disease, all
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that other stuff. So the myth is that more women
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: wo men are able to utilize supplements and or hormone
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: replacement therapy medications in order to help them navigate perimenopause
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and menopause. So are for someone who like me, who's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like so far away from all of this perimenopause, can
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you explain to me and our listeners what exactly is
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: menopause and perimenopause? Like, what is it? Because when I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: love to start where so it's a change, right, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that if you live past the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: A up to the age of sixty, you are going
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: to go through the change. Just like when you were born,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: you went through adolescence, puberty, you're going through the change.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So perimenopause menopause is the change of our hormones. And
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I like to start with menopause because it's just like
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: more of a definitive space before I get the definition
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of perimenopause. So menopause is when our hormone levels estrogen
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: progesterone dropped to such significant lows that we no longer
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: have a periods, so we're not menstruating for twelve months. However,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: there's more than fifty different symptoms that are associated with
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: having the drop in your estrogen progesterone and your tsosterone.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So menopause officially is twelve months without your period or cycle,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and then after that is what people call postmenopause. But
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I also like to say one myth to people, menopause
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: lasts for your the rest of your life. That's the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that is the area you are in in your life
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. Once you stop having
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: your periods, you're in menopause. See I used to think
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: is like when you stop liking men men, know, pause
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: pause on these men because of you know, so.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: That's what you say that teenage years.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So that's funny you say that because you know one
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of the symptoms of the many symptoms is you can
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: have decreased libido, decreased desire. And I remember a few
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of my friends to be like, oh my god, I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. When they hit their forties, like forties,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: was like, yes, baby, yes, they wanted to have sex,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, right when you hit four and then
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all of that energy just like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: he continues to wax and wane. And that's where we
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: call the perimenopause. So prior to you going through menopause,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: which means you're not having periods anymore, the perimenopause is
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that time before, and that time before can be anywhere
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: from five to ten years prior to your actual menopause.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Most people go through like the stage change that one
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: year between the ages of forty eight and fifty two, right,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but that time before that, that is that perimenopausal time.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of people think about fertility right,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So their reproductive time, so that perimenopause you can still
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: get pregnant. Your hormones are just like doing this. Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: so your hormones are doing this. And it's just like
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I tell people, the way we start is the way
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: we end. So if you had puberty, if you remember puberty,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: that's what mental pause is like as well. So that's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: why I've never had a ZiT in my fucking life.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Excuse my French, but all of a sudden I got
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: zits on my jawline. Is that a symptom of perry? Perhaps? Yep?
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Face So estrogen? So estrogen, the decrease in estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. Right,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Remember I told you there's fifty different symptoms or more
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that people can have. Now, Estrogen is in the in
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: every part of our body, our skin, our hair, are
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you know, our our brains, our heart, everywhere is estrogen. Okay,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So when you're starting to see things start happening. And
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: then also depending on what you're doing for your nutrition,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and I recommend people to eat what we call the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Viva life five fruits, vegetables, nuts, rains, beans, drinking our
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: water and if you eat meat that make sure it's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you know, high quality, as clean as possible. But if
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you're if you are eating outside of those things, you're
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: going to see your body respond even more to having
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: this decrease in estrogen. So that is what is going around.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Your hormone levels are dropping and you are starting to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: see the our bodies respond, our tissues respond, our organs
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: respond to that. Should we be taken like estrogen? Sorry,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: So it is that is a very personal conversation. So
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: every single person should have that conversation with their provider
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: because we have to think about what's your family history,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: what's your personal history, and there are certain things that
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: if you are active, like if you have active breast cancer, no,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: we're not going to give you hormone replacement, right, we
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: may and sometimes we can do something local to the vagina,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: but that's one of those things we have to have
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that conversation about. If you have excessive i mean, excuse me,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: uncontrolled hypertension, we have to have a conversation about that
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: because the cardiovascular risk could increase depending on what your
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: cardiovascular risks are. So it's not that it's a complete no,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: but we have to have a conversation with you about
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: your personal history. In order to recommend. Now, hold on,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you said you could do something to the vagina, what
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is it? Tighten it, make it more wet, like what
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is it for? Shop for shop?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So, as you know, your vagina is very like responsive
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to estrogen, So the estrogen, collagen, the juiciness, all of that, right,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: we need to make sure that we are able to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: keep that, like you said, moisten wet, if.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: That's what you so choose and how you so choose
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: to use it. One thing I tell people, and this
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: is a I don't know if it's a mythory, Well
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: it's a truth on my basis. If you don't use it,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you will lose it, Okay.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So the point of the matter is get worried about that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I'll go through like spirits. Well I don't.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But and so what I say is if I use it,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I don't like you.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: We gotta make sure it's clean, healthy, and as wet
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: as you want it to be. Right. So that being said,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: if you need to utilize a vaginal like moisturizer, you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: can use that, right, So we have a placements for that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: We also can use vaginal estrogen locally so that you
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: can continue to keep that area like I said healthy
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and moist because besides getting the itchy, scratchy vagina, as
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: long as you don't have any inflammation or infection associated
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: with it, you can also have what we call urinary
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: tract effect what seems like to be urinary tract infections,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and what we call that is the genital urinary syndrome
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: or symptoms of menopause perimenopause. And that's because those estrogen
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: levels are so low and it's dry, and now you're
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: getting all of these symptoms associated that seem like urinary
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: attract infections but may or may not be.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: You have all these things for like men libido, right,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So we have creams right like you're saying, but do
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: we have a viagraa type pill for women's libidos? Like
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: everything is catered to men prolonging their I don't know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: sexual sex.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so actually there are medications for women that help
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: them improve their libido, their sex drive also, like I said,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: improve improve their vaginal moisture, the elasticity of your entire
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: body as far as your skin and everything like that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they're coming, they're on the market. They're not
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: talked about as much, but they are you know more
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and more are coming out and especially, like I said,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: we have this at you at the health and Human
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: services level. Now, we have some really powerful obgu I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: N eurogynecology advocates that are there in Congress and making
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: sure these things are moving forward. So we have you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: we have we have different opportunities for different people, so
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you know it's not just a one stop shot hormone
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: replacementary therapy. When we talk about estrogen replacement, that is
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: definitely the the therapy that is going to help you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: with your hot flashes. That's like the gold standard to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: help prevent the hot flashes, which is what most people
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: hear about. But then there are other opportunities for us
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: as well if you don't want to use estrogen based
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: or progesterone based products.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Is this true or false? Like does having a direct
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: me cause perimenopause or menopause Earlierly? Like that stage to
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: happen early, Because when you talk about knowing your family
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: history and stuff like that, I don't know a woman
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: in my family who's not over you know, fifty who
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: have not already had a hysterectomy from my mom, aunt's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: older cousins. So I can't pinpoint what's what Like, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: am always happy when I see my period, right right,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I love seeing my period because I mean,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still youthful. I can still get pregnant,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: pop that couch. I can do all things, okay, But
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: how do you know when everybody like, I don't know
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: when my mom would have went through menopause, especially now
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: you're saying like when menopause starts, it doesn't stop, like
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: that's just the rest of your life is menopause. Right now,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know the difference between PMS and or menopause
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: with these old ladies.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, I understand. It's me. Yeah, so ask
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: your question again because I got in, you know, with
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the PAPTA. I got throw off with the pop. Sorry,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, pop couci because listen, it's women in menopause
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: still popping their koucie. Don't get yes, absolutely, which is
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: why I need to mention this that we still need
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to even though people are like, oh, I can't get
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: pregnant because I've gone through menopause, my eggs and run out.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: The likelihood of me getting pregnant is very, very low.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: But I never put anything past the higher power. We
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: still need to prevent STDs. So gotneria chamitia herpe' heppatitus HIV.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: So because people are living longer, stronger, and thriving past
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: their fifties, we still need to reprevent all of that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: But go back to your menopause quicker right, oh with
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: instaur Yes, that's what.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: So. So it's interesting because hysterectomy means removal of the uterus.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: But if you ask the woman if I you've had
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a hysterectomy, many of them don't know whether or not
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: they got their ovaries and rears remove, right, so it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: not even a partial hys direct me. The removal of
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: an ovaries is called a oopharectomy, that's what it's called.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: The removal of the tubes is called a salping jectomy.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: The removal of the uterus is called a hysterectomy. So, yes,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you have to very much get into the nuance with
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: people about that. Now, sometimes when you remove the uterus,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: some of the blood flow that would be going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the ovaries decreases, so people can see the changes. Like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I said, you can have some minstrul excuse me, you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: can have some perimenopause symptoms that seem to come on
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: maybe not faster, but because you have decreased blood flow,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you're getting those types those same type of symptoms. It's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: more when that estrogen level is gone. So if you
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: have your ovaries removed, then yes, no longer are you. Yes,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you are in medical or surgical menopause right then and there.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So you can have surgical menopause, meaning that I took
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: out your ovaries or decreased the significant flow to your ovaries.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: You can have medical menopause, which means I gave you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: medication to stop the function of your ovaries. Or you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: can have what a quote unquote natural menopause, where you've
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: just matured and aged into menopause. And that is a
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: questions because so many people are like, welly have my
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: uterers taken out? I don't know if I'm gone through menopause.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: If you listen to your body, you will absolutely know
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: when you stop cycling. But we have to be in
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: tune with our bodies. And that's why I teach a
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: lot about mindset and knowing yourself from the inside out.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I had a friend she was fighting breast cancer, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: she said that she was going into early menopause because
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: of the medicine is that this happened from chemotherapy will
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: send you into early menopause. So that's what we call
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: medical menopause. So yes, you can you can actually end
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: up starting to have the symptoms. You can fully go
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: into menopause, or you can go into a state of
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you know, stopping where those medications are stopping the hormones
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: from functioning that they normally do. And that's the whole purpose,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: especially when you have an estrogen or progesterone positive breast cancer.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So you can either be paused or you can actually
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: fully go into the menopause. And everybody is a little
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: bit different how they respond to those therapies and medications.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: And don't they they're like medication that can I was
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: gonna say, don't they have like a medication that can
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: like basically if you're going through chemo, that can like
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: guard your eggs correct.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So they do put you on medications that can help,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: like I said, make that pause happen so that it
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: can help protect right, But we don't know until you
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: come off with all the medications whether or not what
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: functionality you're gonna have. And that's typically not something that
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: they're just gonna do for you. You gotta pay for that,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: right like, because well, no, that that a lot of
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: times is a part of your therapy, and they should
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: be having the conversation with women in regards to how
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: do I protect my ovaries, how do I continue to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: maintain my fertility? And also and then I'm thinking you're
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: talking about potentially egg harvesting, so when I harvest my
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: eggs so that I can save them so that I
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: can use them for later, either in my uterus or
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: womb or somebody else's. And that brings me to my
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: next question. Does stress play a part in how quickly
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: your body goes into the change? Absolutely?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that especially for Black women, we are
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: known to go through menopause perimenopause about eight months to
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a year earlier than women women are kind of part right,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: non women of color, I guess you could say Caucasian women,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: whatever you want.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: To say, bege. So, yeah, and I do believe that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that is associated with the amount of stress and weight
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that we carry from racism, structural racism, discrimination, prejudice, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: then just having the weight of the world on our shoulders,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the financial responsibilities, the mental and emotional responsibilities
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that we carry more than most people do. Stop stressing.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna get old fast, and that's another reason why.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: You know though, that's the only thing, right, get older faster.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: But you will look it, I know, right, And a
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh, I don't look my age,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's true. Many times we don't look our
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: age because I think that genetically, genetically, we have developed
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: protective mechanism so that we don't age in the same
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: way that other people age. But I will tell you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: if you are smoking, and if you are you know, significantly,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: if you're OBEs, significantly overweight, if you are not managing
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: your cardiovascular health diabetes, it doesn't matter. You know, if
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you're not doing those things, you're gonna look older than
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you should. Amen to that. That's what I was going
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to ask, like, when you how does fitness like, how
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: should we change our fitness when we're going to pair
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: mini pause, because I assume our metabolisms and things like
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that are affected by this as well. So you're absolutely
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: so it's slow. Your menabolisms are slowing down. And so
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: what I tell people is encourage young people already to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: exercise whatever that is if it's dancing, dancing, zooma and
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, pilates, running, hiking, biking, getting out there
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and walking. Make sure you're doing that so young, if
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you're young, put your kids in some type of sports
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and make them do it. As you mature, continue doing that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Find your community so that you can enjoy exercise. We
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: should be enjoying. We should be exercising five or six
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: times a week, if not seven, right, even if the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: seventh day is going for a walk, but we should
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: be exercise and enjoying that. So and then as you are,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: as you are aging, right, you should be increasing your
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: strength exercises. So that is why you know, even doing
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: resistance bans is so important. So adding weights you don't
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: have to add, you know, significantly heavy weights. You don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: have to lift one hundred, two hundred pounds. You don't
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: have to do that. You can lift twenty thirty pounds.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: You can lift your own body weight. I mean, you
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: know you weigh one hundred and twenty one hundred and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: sixty pounds or more.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: N I never been able to lift my body weight
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: since I was an elementary. I can't never do a
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: pull up.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so be on there. But you know, we start
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: with we start with doing pushups. So in the morning,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: when I wake up, I do my body scan and
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: this is part of my Vivi Life program that I do.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: But I wake up, I do my body scan and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I ask myself, you know, what's going on in my
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: body from the top of my head down to the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: sole of my feet, and how do I focus my
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: energy so I can heal that space. Then I get
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: down on the floor, I do my Calisenics and that's
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: push ups, that's crunches, that stretches, and I know it
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: sounds funny, right, So I don't know. My mom watched jacqu.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Lolaine, and you know I did a tibo when I
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: was in my twenties and thirties. Whatever you need to
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: do to keep moving and to keep that body, you know, strong,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: those are the things that we need to do.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I remember one time I went to this female doctor
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and I was putting on weight and I was like,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but I just don't have time. My life is so busy.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I just travel and I work in two different cities
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and I just don't have time. And she was like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I'm a mother of five, I'm a wife, I have
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: this practice and I still find time every morning to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: get up and go to the gym. So what were
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you saying? And then it becomes my hair and all
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: that other stuff. No, I schedule it. So one of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the things my family knows is the first hour of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the day is mine. That's where I meditate, journal and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: get my exercise in, and then for the rest of
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the day, I'm optimizing my nutrition, my hormones in my
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: sleep and I get my sleep. And so you're talking
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to an obgyn who used to, you know, do thirty
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: six hourships and still got her work out in because
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: it just makes you feel better mentally and emotionally, and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: of course it's going to help the physical aspects your
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: heart health, prevent diabetes, prevent significant weight gain, all of that. Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: The crazy thing is I have a consultation today at
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: a weightlifting gym. All right, Yeah, because I go to
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the gym, but I don't be knowing what I'm doing
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: half the time, right, And I want to like, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: just don't want shit to.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Move no more.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I want the body to stay kind of like the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: same size, but I don't want no more jiggle.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, and that can happen. And so you're
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: being intentional about what you do and how you do it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Because you don't have to be in the gym for
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: twenty two hours. You don't have to do that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It's a discipline inconsistency for me, man, I just got
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to get some discipline in my life.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Yep, listen, I will. I did seventy five hard earlier
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: this year, and I was going to the gym twice
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: a day for seventy five days straight. And then right
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: after that, I did seventy five fat like right behind it,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: run again seventy five You better cut it out. I
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: struggle with the consistencies, like just staying with it. That's
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: my hardest part. I can do. I do the workouts,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I know the workouts, I know the routines, I know
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: how to live ways, but just going for life a
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: lifestyle change is what I struggle with. That is that
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: my kryptonite. So I don't I tell me understand. And
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that's one thing that we have just incorporated in my life,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, it's on my calendar, and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: don't mess with me. And even if I can't get
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like a hard workout in, I'm going to do something,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: even you know, walking something to get my mind going
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: like right now, I don't feel like going to the gym,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm out there every morning and I'm walking two
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and a half miles and I'm going uphills and I'm
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: using the resistance bands, doing the push ups in the setups.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, m all, I'm gonna go in a little while,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I think today.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And you gotta be in a community, right, So if
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: you're in a community of people that this is what
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: they do.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: So that's what my Viva lifeers and I do. Like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: we encourage each other to do all of these things.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: And it's not really like me saying you need to go,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it's them seeing me go. Like I'm out there and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what y'all doing? You know? And the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: next thing I know, everybody else is out doing something too. Right,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that's you don't encourage me to get my ass up
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to They an't go because I wasn't gonna go because
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go just because you said that. And
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: let me ask you this, I never like, I never
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: heard of Peri menopause. I heard of menopause growing up,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: but Perry menopause was never a thing.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Is that the I just started hearing about it the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: last Is it a new convent?
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean, you know, I will
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: tell you when I first started hearing about it was
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: about twenty years ago when Oprah was on with doctor
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Hill I think her name was hilde Brand or Hilda
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: greath but she they talked about What Women Need to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Know about Sex was the book, and so it was
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a whole I mean, Oprah did a whole thing on menopause,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: just like she's doing now in perimenopause. But I will
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: tell you when I even when I was going through training.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you grow up and they tell you're going
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to have your period and they tell you don't get pregnant, right,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: but they don't tell you anything between that or about that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: When I was going through my OBGUI N training, we
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: got the graphs that said this is what happens with estrogen, progesterone, testosterone.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I will be honest with you, it's not until you
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: hit the different stages that you're like, oh, this is
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: what they were talking about. So the reason why you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: feel like it hasn't been talked about is number one,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they stopped talking about it, especially after that whole Women's
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Health Initiative, because they didn't want people to be on
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: horrimal replacement. Right. The other thing is it's coming up.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: You're going into the time of your life where other
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: people are going into the time of their life where
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: they're starting to feel these things, so you're more interested
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Like, we don't talk about how to get pregnant until
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you're trying to get pregnant, right, So same thing, You're
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: not going to.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Talk about perimenopause until you're going through the experience.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: So like, what are some of the symptoms that women
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: made mistake for something else but it's perimenopause.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so these are important things. So I'm gonna start
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: with the heart, right. So a lot of people actually
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: end up getting heart palpitations, anxiety, and sometimes some shortness
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of breast, chest pain. But we also have to make
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: sure that we're ruling out what could kill you, right,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: So we got to make sure that it's not a
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: heart attack. We got to make sure that is not
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: some other kind of arrhythm or changes in your heart rate.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: But those are some of the things a lot of
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: people get palpitations anxiety associated with perimenopause menopause. The other
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: thing is people will notice that their weight changes, So
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: they start getting what we call the mino belly or
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: that mid that midriff weight game, that the what do
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: they call it, the upha, the punfa, whatever it's called.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, so the muffin tops. So you
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: start getting that and people are like, wait a second,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: what's going on with that? And so we have to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: make sure are you having a gastrulinetestinal problem that's going
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: along with that? Is this friboids that's potentially going on?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: So going back to the head to toe exam is
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: very important. And what I've noticed in mere cards, we've
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: gotten away from examining people so that we can make
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a differential diagnosis means what could this be and what
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: more likely is this? People also start having joint pains
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and so they're like, uncle Arthur is here right, So
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: they think they have our ritis, but it's actually inflammation
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: because the estrogen actually moisturizes our joints, helps moisturize that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: So you know, those are some of the symptoms besides
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the hot slashes, vaginal dryness, mood swings. Mood swings are huge.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: But we have to figure out is this depression, you know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: is it truly depression? Do you have a bipolar exacerbation
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: exacerbation or is this associated with perimenopause or menopause? So
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: those are so so okay.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: So people going through perimenopause get like bipolar symptoms in hand.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you if you ask, like my
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: best friend call and she was like, I don't know
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: what's going on with my my mom, and a lot
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of men I'll tell you this too. A lot of
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: men will tell you this too. They're like, man, I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on over but she seemed like
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and then the other thing is as new as you mature,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you can also you know ad ad D. People can
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: get the you know, uh focused deficits. And you hear
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: me saying, because you get brain fog and you can't
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: figure out what word you're supposed to say. So then
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: some people are thinking they're going through Alzheimu's or yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd be feeling like that sometimes.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: But like I said, but when we before we started recording,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: like I had, I mentioned this last week too, I
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: had a physical done and I'm like super iron deficient.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: But that can also cause like the brain fog. That's hardness.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: So I never once thought I was going through the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: change though, But I knew something was going on.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: But remember, you are going through change constantly. Our bodies
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: are constantly changing, even on a blood change. Yeah, but
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you are if I mean, if you're if you're in
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: your forties, you are going through the change. You just
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten to the big part of the change. You're
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: going through these small, minute, po portions of the change.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you're going through the change.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: So okay, can you can you like, as long as
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: you have your period, that means you're not in perimenopause
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: and you're not in menopause.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: So as long as you have your period, so let
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: me put it this way, as long as you're continuing
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to consistently have your period, then you are not in menopause,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: but you can still be PERIMENOPAUSM. So the time prior
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: to you stopping your period for that twelve months is
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: called perimenopause. Now, one thing I want to say, because
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: some people will stop their periods for the twelve months
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and then have a period that needs to be investigated
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: for endometrial cancer. Mm. Yeah, we have to investigate that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: So if you stop having your period going on, Yeah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: if you stop your period for twelve months and all
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you start having you know, bleeding, spotting
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. Then that needs to be evaluated
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: because it could be a form of cancer. It could
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: be and it could be you know that depending on
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: where you are, you can have significant stress that trigger something.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: You have this quartisole response you're you know, and then
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you unfortunately start having bleeding, especially in women in fibroids.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I've seen that happen to them where they have the fibroids,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and even though in menopause they should be shrinking, but
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you're having some significant stressors going on and for some
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: reason you've triggered your hormonal milieu and it actually calls
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: you to bleed. But even in that instance, I still
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: make sure I'm ruling out intimutual cancer do women, because
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like black women get fibroids more than our
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you know, counterparts. And does that affect like how quick
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: you go into perry in menopause when you have fibroids,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: So fibroids doesn't affect that. However, your hormonal changes will
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: affect the fibroids. So that's why you see women having
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you know, growth of the fibroids. That's why you also
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: see them having these heavy, unbearable periods associated with fibroids.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: So that is all the fibroids are hormonally impacted. So
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that's why you see some of the changes that are
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: going on. I wouldn't say that having fibroids puts you
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: into perimenopause faster. Remember that is very much based on
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: your brain hormones and your ovaries and that communication between both.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that black women get fibroids more
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: than other people? Yeah? So, you know what, I'll be
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: honest with you. Part of that is the stressors that
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: we are taking on because you know, estrogen doesn't just
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: live in our ovaries, it lives in the adipost tissue
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: as well. Okay, Cortisol responses from stressors, what we're eating,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: what our environments are, and then what our genetic history is.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Oh and for example, my family, they all have many
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: people in my family have had fibroids. I've never had fibroids.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I actually get my ultrasound done to make sure that
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: they check for fibroids. But I've also been on progesterone
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: for almost my entire life through my IUD. I also
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: like I said, practice the Viva Life five for my
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: entire almost my entire life, even before I named what
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: it was. That's what I do, and so minimize that stress,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: making sure environmentally that I am, you know, not in
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: environments that could probably trigger the hormonal responses or growth
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: as well as what I'm eating. So food is your
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: medicine as well. Do you use sizing salt? Do you
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: use season of salt? Because I just cavery lawry is
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: what's giving us fibroids, y'all stop you. So do I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: use season in salt sparingly? I would say yes, I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: do loud. You know I grew up I'm flowers too,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: but I use it very sparingly. So if you come
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: eat it at my house, you may feel like the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: food might be a little bit more bland than you
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: used to. But that being said, you know, I don't
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: have hypertension, I don't have diabetes, I'm not overweight, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this intentionally. So it's really important to when
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: you're seasoning your food to make sure that we're minimizing
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the sovium that's attached to it. I swear y'all over
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the years, my mama's food is still good but it
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: tastes more like white people food because she don't use
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: salt like that no more. She don't well fry no more,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: she don't. Everything is changing. But I mean, you know,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm adopting that a little bit. Okay, yeah, So, I
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: mean just taking out fried foods right will make such
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: a big difference. And what I tell people is if
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you do it more than ninety percent of the time.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: My colleague says eighty percent of the time. But if
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: you eat, you know, on that clean eating more than
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time or even eighty five percent
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of the time, you're going to be so much better
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: off than most people in America. Agent five. Yeah, what
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: is Viva life five? You've meant life now, So v
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: class stamps for live. Viva means live life. And what
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: we're trying to do is help people live their healthiest
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and wealthiest life spiritually. Spiritually exactlycates from women getting money. Okay,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, say we leave no bags on the table, okay,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: So spiritually, physically, financially, mentally, and emotionally, and essentially what
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: this entails is you get myself and my fellow consultants
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: to help you through webinars podcasts, affirmation rooms. So that's
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: the mindfulness pa, journaling, meditating and incorporating that exercise, hormone nutrition,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: and making sure that you sleep. So it's a community
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that we've created in order for you to do five
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: things pretty much every day and eat those five foods fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, things,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: drinking our water. And if you eat meat, make sure
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: it's clean and high quality. Do you eat meat? I
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: do eat meat. I make sure I try to make
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: sure it's clean, the high quality. Now that might be
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the ten percent that I'm not doing correct all the time,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I try to make sure that we're eating
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: high quality or minimizing it. You know what I'm saying.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I don't eat meat every single day. Do you eat
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: pork at all? I do. I went through the whole
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: phase of not eating pork at all, and I did.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I went through the whole you know, like it was.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: It was funny, it was. I went to I went
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: to college, right, I went to Xavier University in New Orleans, Bblisiana.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I went to HBCU and I was like, I'm not
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna eat meat.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And I got there and I had no money. So
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: you had to eat a cafeteria and guess what they
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: put out every Friday. Pork chop bacon.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: You're like, all you can eat bacon. I was like, yeah,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: some of that. Listen. Every time I meet someone over
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: one hundred, I asked them do they eat port? And
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: they say yes. I ain't meant a person yet over
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: one hundred that said they don't eat no port.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It's not about the pork though, Like the food just
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: isn't what it used to be when they were our age, right.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: So that's just like I don't eat a lot of things.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not the same.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I don't eat a lot of pork. If I do
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: eat any I eat fish, I eat beef, high quality beef.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: And then if I eat pork, if I be a
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: pork chop. Right, So, but it's not fried and all
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that other stuff. But I have everything in moderation and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: choose where you're gonna be. Another big thing is alcohol.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: So minimizing your alcohol is very important through perimenopause and menopause.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: You know, people say one or two drinks a day,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: and I'm like that seems like a lot, But I
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: would say minimize it to like one or two drinks
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: a week would be better. And if you're noticing that
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you're needing to drink every single day, then we'll probably
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: need to talk about whether or not there's some alcoholism
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: tendencies that are going on in your life. But that
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: will alcohol will exacerbate all the symptoms for a lot
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: of people. As I get older, I find that I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: used to have fun, a lot of fun with alcohol,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: but as I get older, I just feel like it
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: makes me sick. I don't feel good anymore when I
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: drink it. I don't. It takes me like three days
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: to get better after just having two or three drinks.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: So does that have something to do with our bodies
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: changing too, like I can't liquor the same? Yep, absolutely absolutely.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: And then the thing is, you know, a little bit
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: of red wine is okay, right, not the whole bottle
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and not the glass that fills up with the whole bottle.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Yea, the one pass one glass.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Is a whole bottle. No, we're not doing that, but
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit of red wine. And you know, I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: like whiskey, so I might have Sir Davis a couple
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of times in the month, and you know that's what
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I do. I understand what my ninety percent is and
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: understanding that. I also understand little things in my body
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that tells me, you know what you're getting out of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: You're getting out of parameters. So if my if my legs,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: my thighs start like touching each other a little bit,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm out of parameters, so i run out live.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: My guys have never not touched like I've touched it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I might just see you know well you and you
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: just got to know. I can tell when I gain
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: five PM, like I know when i'm I know my
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: exact weight because I understand my body and like you said,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: you travel a lot, so we retain a lot of
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: water and there's some retention there, right, so it takes
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a good forty five days to get that water just
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to get that water weight off, and you have to
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: be very intentional about that, so you know, hydrating sometimes
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: a little apple sided vinegar. Sometimes I'll do a little
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: bit of castoil, olive oil. You know, just to make
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: sure that I'm keeping my gud clean healthy is really important,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: So I do, heir, and I what made me bring
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: this conversation too, like want to have this conversation is
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: so my clients are aging with me, and a lot
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: of them are in their late thirties, early forties to fifties.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I don't have that many twenty somethings anymore. I have some,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: but not that many. And I kept hearing the conversation
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: about perimenopause perimenopause, and I had one of my clients
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: particularly say that she was concerned because her vagina is
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: dry now. She's like, I don't know, Like I used
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: to be pouring a glass of water out of me,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: and now it's like a Sahara desert, like it's tumbleweed's
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: rolling by when I pulled my kuchie out. Is there
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: something that people could write? Is it wild wild watts?
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Is there something because women can do or eat? She's like,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I'm drinking water, I drink hell of water. I'm eating fruit.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Is there something that we could do or something that
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: women can take to make sure that their vagina they
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: keep it their wetness as long as possible when they're
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: going through these changes. Yeah, so I will say always
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: green leafy vegetables are very important, right, So making sure
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that you're keeping your vitamin D, your iron levels up
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: as well as they're going to have what we call
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: adaptogens and nutrients that are going to help you keep
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: that collagen sometimes some vital estrogens and things like that.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: But then also she can utilize basic things some olive oil,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit of olive oil, daba olive oil or
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: coconut oil in the area and the vaginal area could
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: be very helpful. There's also products that kind of like
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: there's a product call raplens, but essentially that is a
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: lubricant she can use. But I'll be honest with you,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: estrogen based products are like the best thing that you
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: can use. If you're okay with using estrogen, place it
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: in your vagina, small amount in your vagina a couple
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: times a week, and it will help you significantly. Important
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: thing though, if you're finding that you're using estrogen, especially
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you're taking it by mouth or you have it on
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: a patch, or you're even using it in your vagina
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like every single day, then we need to talk about
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: if you still have a uterus using the progesterone as well,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: because we want to protect against that individual cancer that
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: we talked about. Mm. Yeah, I started taking Maca. You
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: take maca? Yes? Good? Yeah? Oh absolutely helps with the libido. Yes, ma'am. Yes,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Ostragonda maca what people, let's.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Go, it's like a like a Peruvian like root. Is
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: a plant like ginger like root. Yeah, but it comes
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: and it tast really good too. It tastes like a
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: like a like a nut. So if you put it
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: like in a in a smoothie or something like that,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: it has like a peanut buttery flavor. It's real good.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so I remember when I was having,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: you know, being at work and everything all the time,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: when I was breastfeeding my child. Finnagreek was another one.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: And finnagreek is another plant based supplement that you can
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: use to help you moisturize, right, and it helps you
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: produce milk, so that that's another type of thing that
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: milk fits sole finigreed though, So though, there's if you
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: work with an integrated specialist or a natural path they'll
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: be able to give you more options in regards to
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: more plant based therapies rather than just you know, estrogen
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: is the only thing you can use.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: In your organization. Is that what you push towards more
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: the holistic you know, because in the medical industry they
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: want to push medicine. It's pharmacia Okay, that's the real,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: real witchcraft as far as I'm concerned. Right, So they
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: push more you know, pharmaceutical medication as opposed to the organic.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: There's really not a lot of doctors out there that
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: you know. I was just at the doctor recently and
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I told her I do black seed oil for my
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: blood pressure, and you know, she immediately went into, well,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: you know, the studies and all this other you know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: trying to deter you from doing more alternatives. So that
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: is that what you lean more towards as opposed to
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: like traditional medicine.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Right, So I'm about all of it, right. I try
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: to make sure that people know their options, whether they
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: are non pharmaceutical or pharmaceutical. But I also try to
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: make sure that people understand the risk benefits of each
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: because if we're talking about it, you know, many things
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: are plant based, even if they are FDA approved or
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: through the pharmacy, many hands are plant based. If you're
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: compounding something then cassable. At a lot of times you're
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: using some type of plant plant based. So I think
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: it's really important, and I'll be honest with you. In
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: traditional medicine, they don't teach this portion of supplements plant
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: based medications or therapies, So which had come in that
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: y'all the real year. So that's why it's important. Like
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I was saying, you know, look behind the name and say,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: are you a functional medicine physician? Have you gotten your
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: naturopathic training, whether it's a certification or your actual natural
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: pactic doctor? And how do you put both of those
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: things together? What are my alternatives besides using what I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: can get from former pharmacy. So give me non pharmacy
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and pharmacy associated therapies that can be useful for me.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I believe in acupuncture, chiropractic work, like I've done all
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: these things, so I absolutely know that I don't have
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: to be in pain. Excuse me, I don't have to
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: take pain medications to resolve my pain. There's other options
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: for it as well. The pain, not my pain, the.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Pain, So let's not take that in our Let's not
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: take that in our bodies, right right.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: So I feel like I've always had a healthy sexual appetite,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: but it feels like since I turned forty, Like, man,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who's calling my phone? Who's calling my phone?
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Like I wake it up?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like horny, Like all the time is that like
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: something that happens before Parry. Is that like normal or
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: is it? It is? So? I remember I told you
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: in perimenopause, your hormones are doing this right, so you're
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: going through this wax and way, so you're really feeling
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: so And also I told you perimenopause and many is
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: just like puberty, and what happened in puberty You found yourself.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: You found all of that hotness. So that's one of
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the things that you can actually experience. And that's why
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: you gotta be careful taking certain things like maca. Right,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you take maca, you go, you might elevate or take
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: it like it helps men's libido. Jim, Yeah, absolutely, So
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going through I shouldn't take no moca right now
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: because I might just have to be chandelier if I
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: take some of that shit. I feel like, yeah, you
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: have to be careful. You have to be careful about it.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: And so that's why having that personal line conversation and say, Okay,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: what symptoms are you experiencing and what do what do
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: you want to temper or what do you want to improve?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing about you know, anything that
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: you decide to take you should be taking it because
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: it's supplementing what is going on in your body. So,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: like you said, you might not need maca root, but
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: you might need something to help you with stress or
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: calm me down. So you know that's something, and that's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: a different opportunity for you. I will say, somebody asked me,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: do I have to take hormone replacement therapy estrogen replacement
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: therapy progesterone if you still be uterus? And I will
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: say that the number one killer of women, especially black
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: women's cardiovascular disease point blank, hypertension, stroke, arrhythmius. Right, And
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: so what has been found is that the estrogen the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: replacement is reducing the cardiovascular disease. Now, you got to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: do all the other things too. So if you so
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: choose not to take the replacement, then you got you
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: really got to do all the other things when we
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: talk about the stress reduction, the exercise, the nutrition, and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the sleeps, and we really need to get our sleep, ladies.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, there is nothing wrong with sleeping.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I love down. Okay, I keep staying making T shirts
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: that say that I love to Later, I get my sleep.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's always RESTful, though, yes, I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: do have hot flashes at night. Sometimes I'd be hot
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: as hell at night.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so those are the hormonal change wets talking about.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: But back to your question about the sex. If you're
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: feeling hot and horny, I think it's okay. I mean,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I will say when I was in my early forty
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: that was the best time of my life. Baby. I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: was like this, I've been I've been missing this. I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: didn't you know I was. I was away from my husband,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I was deployed when I was pregnant with my child,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: so I didn't get like that, like pregnancy sex that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: everybody was talking about. I didn't get all of that.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: But Babe, when I turned forty, it was on the topic.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It feels like I'm crazy right now. It's great,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it's wonderful. And bursic got me going so crazy right now.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, that I definitely be horny. Man, I don't want
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: it to stop, though.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I don't, so that's why we have no time.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I don't wanted to stop.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Not okay, That's why we're having this conversation so that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: we can prevent it from stopping.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: My doctor asked me the other day if I still
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: get a period, I'm like, yes, the fuck I dude,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I'm happy about it. I need to see my shit
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: every month.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: And it's really important to track yourself, right. People used
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: to track their periods so they can see whether or
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: not they could get pregnant. Are they pregnant, that whole thing.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: But it's still important to track your cycle as you're
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: going through this. And it's not just tracking the period,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: is tracking the symptoms associated with the cycles. So remember
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: your cycle is every twenty one to thirty days. That's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: a cycle. The period is just the mysteration. That's just
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: a certain part. But you know you're going to feel
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: you know, more loving and accepting at some part in
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: your cycle, and other times you'd be like, get off
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: of me, you know, I don't want to be bothered.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: So it's really important to understand that and see how
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: many times you are feeling that through the day, because
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: then you can start tracking your perimenopausal symptoms into menopause.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: What conversation should mothers and daughters be having about menopause
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: that most of us aren't all of this because you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: know your children are going to experience your menopause, probably
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: they're going to notice something that's changing faster than you
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: notice the change in yourself. So having these conversations with
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: your boys and girls or however they identify, and making
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: sure that you're having these conversations to say, you know,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: this is the menstrual cycle, this is menc's, this is
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: what happens when you're in your twenties to thirties. Is
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: what happens in your thirties and forties, forties and fifties beyond.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: But in order to have those conversations, we need to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: be educated about those conversations, which is why I love
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: coming on podcasts. This is why I love having corporate sessions.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: So we provide six corporate sessions to corporations organizations to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: improve women health in their organization, and then we do
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: the individual discussions as well.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: So you're so ko koe, right, consult it's not just
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: for corporations. Individuals can also.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Right, So the corporations. So that's why we created Viva
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Life SPF ME, which is the program that's more like
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: having the group conversation individually based, and that's where you'll
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: get the podcast, the webinars and the coaching sessions, right.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: But the corporate sessions are when we go in we
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: try to improve health inequities for different healthcare plans as
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: well as if we're like if I'm at Boeing or
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: something or another corporation, then we're working with the women
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: on the top five diseases that are happening. We're educating
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: them so that they have a health plan. Well, what
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: do I talk to my physician or practitioner about so
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: that I can actually get the benefit out of this
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: healthcare plan instead of just like paying this, you know,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: one hundred to one thousand dollars two thousand dollars a month.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah and yees. Right now is like open enrollment, and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I cannot stand it. I don't know what the hell
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: is going on half the time.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I know it's hard to figure it out. It's hard
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to figure it out to do those comparisons. But you
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: know what go on chat GPT put in your information
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: and say what health care plan is best for me? Yeah?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: And you know this is so off topic.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I don't be fucking with CHATGBT like that because I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: feel like it starts like then tracking you, because it's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: some stuff in there that I'm like, why are you
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: suggesting this to me? This has nothing to do with
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: what I just asked you about. So they have all
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: your conversations and they know you now they.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Do, so there's a way for you to turn off.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: There's a way to turn off the learning piece that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: they can't get those conversations out into like everybody's else's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: learning piece. Right. But there's a great person her name
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: is Alicia Little. She teaches AI and she will give
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: you all the tips, tricks and the tools for it.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be afraid of it. I mean, you know,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I'm prior military, right, I retired from the military, babe
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: chat GBT and got nothing on what the henilitary has
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: already been doing already know. So it's it's just one
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: of those things. It has been out for thirty years. Yeah,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things like either you
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: get ahead of it or it gets ahead of you.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Either you are the food or you become the farmer.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: So just decide where you want to be with.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: That, I understand. Yep.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: All right, is there anything that you want to tell
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: our listeners that they need to know about Perry? That
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: there is imperative that they understand about Perry mendoopause and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: menopause before you go. Absolutely, so, Perry menopause. Menopause, it's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: going to happen, so don't be afraid of it happening.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Be educated, understand it. Track your cycles, track your mencies,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: track your symptoms. Talk to your family. We should know
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: our family histories and if you're adopted, you know, try
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: to figure out genetically what's going on. But have these conversations.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Do not be afraid of the change, and reach out
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: to your subject matter experts that you know, that's what
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: we do. We trained in this, and those subject matter
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: experts don't have to be you know, older. Everybody you
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: know older doesn't know. Everybody that says O, B G,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: I N actually doesn't know. But make sure you find
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: out those resources that you can really get that that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: conversation that is specific towards you. Do not be afraid
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: of this. It can be the best time of your
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: life as well and period.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Basically, reach out to Koe Medical Consulting.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, so yeah doctor Kelly om D D
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: r K E L L y O m D dot com.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: If you want to join Viva Life or get some
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: consulting services. I'm definitely going to reach out. I want
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: to do and I need to change how I'm living
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: because I love it. I eat bacon, A piece of bacon.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Hate to see me coming. I threw it. Now, well,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I definitely need to make some lifestyle changes, all right,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: So we have a segment called the Dumb Bitch Story.
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  Speaker 1: I told you a little bit about it. So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a break, and when we come back, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to share a story with us. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we are back, and doctor Kelly has her story. Go ahead, alrighty,
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  Speaker 1: So when you first told me this, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't never been a right, right no virgo.
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  Speaker 1: I almost got to ask that, what's your son? I'm
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  Speaker 1: a virgo born on set. Some reports the damn story
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  Speaker 1: tell a lie? Are you pimp in your whole life?
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  Speaker 1: Virgoals are? I was like, yeah, never got played a virgo.
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  Speaker 2: They somebody kind of twisted to its always in their favor.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I was on the phone, you was crying
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  Speaker 1: about it. But okay, two years lady, like didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: You got it? Go ahead, Brighton and I at that
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  Speaker 2: a September the fourth Urgo as well.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a whole other level. But my story is
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I was in college, right and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a car, I didn't have no money, whatever
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  Speaker 1: the case may be. And this guy said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to take you out. But I wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: type of person that was giving out nothing. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: you wasn't. You weren't getting anything if you weren't in
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  Speaker 1: a long term relationship with me and he we had
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  Speaker 1: set up to have go on a date and I'm excited,
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  Speaker 1: I'm dressed, ready, the whole thing. I'm looking out the window,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wait for him to call to say he
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  Speaker 1: was downstairs so I can come out my dorm room.
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  Speaker 1: And the call never came, and I was like, what
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  Speaker 1: just happened? And so maybe a thirty six hours later,
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  Speaker 1: I get a phone call like, oh hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some things came up. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, is your mom said right just passed away?
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  Speaker 1: Did you get in a car accident? And he was
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  Speaker 1: like no, noa NOA. I was like okay, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: so when you want me to pick you up? I
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  Speaker 1: was like never click. So that was my that was
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  Speaker 1: my story. And I got stood up for a date
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  Speaker 1: and that never happened again. I just needed to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that you know, he wasn't dead somewhere, his mama
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  Speaker 1: didn't die, because if he told me that, I might
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  Speaker 1: have you know my name. So you never ever got
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  Speaker 1: you never even found out why he missed the date.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't care why virgos, These virgos boys.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a dumb bitch story.
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  Speaker 1: Now. If you would have said, day, yeah, he called again.
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  Speaker 2: Three weeks and three more weeks later then and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going out with him again, then that's dumb bitch. That
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  Speaker 2: was the dumbest I've ever been. But you know I
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  Speaker 2: will I will tell you why. No, I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 1: It's because I grew up with you know, my brothers,
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  Speaker 1: my god brothers. They I used to listen to my
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  Speaker 1: brothers roll game on girls all the time. They got shoes, clothes, cars, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and they would be like, wash this, and they said,
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  Speaker 1: don't ever be a chicken head. But who's the chicken head?
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  Speaker 1: And really, unwitches lily guy had ship. So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what that's what they told me, and so I listened.
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  Speaker 1: I listened the whole time. And I work in a
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  Speaker 1: male dominated environment right my whole life. I'm a surgeon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a doctor, I'm in then I was in the
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  Speaker 1: Navy for twenty six years. I was like, yeah, y'all
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  Speaker 1: not getting me.
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  Speaker 2: I feel you.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm here for that. But that was like not
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  Speaker 1: a dumbest story. I thought about this all night too,
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  Speaker 1: that one time. That one nigga like what had this
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  Speaker 1: big card? Like when? Because when I told her, She's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've never even played. I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, come up with you.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you have another one? And I'm still like
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  Speaker 1: a salty about it. But you know, I invested in
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  Speaker 1: a friend's company and I looked at all the financials
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  Speaker 1: and everything like that. I'm still waiting for my money.
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  Speaker 1: So if that's another one, that could be another one
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  Speaker 1: that's will be very careful about your investments, and especially
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  Speaker 1: if you're trying to help a friend out and see
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  Speaker 1: them grow, and you know, in this day and age
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  Speaker 1: when everybody's like, you know, support black businesses and all
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  Speaker 1: that other stuff. Naboo, I need to see your financials,
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  Speaker 1: your tax reports. I need to see like open them
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  Speaker 1: books everything, open the books. So that would be another
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  Speaker 1: another dB story. A DVS. We are you dating that person? No, No,
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  Speaker 1: we just have been friends for like over twenty years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you don't count.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Anytime money and somebody owe me some money,
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  Speaker 2: I might have been a dumb bitch giving you my money.
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  Speaker 1: I might have been Yeah, yeah that was the that
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  Speaker 1: was the DBS. That that's another big DBS. Now this
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  Speaker 1: younger one. That was a young DBS. This older one.
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  Speaker 1: I probably should have, you know, thought a little bit
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  Speaker 1: harder and listened to you trying to help though, So
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  Speaker 1: that don't mean well I don't have them. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: Bergo born on September or fourth.
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  Speaker 2: I'm urgalarizing, and I definitely not got played a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times in life, man, definitely. Okay, I'm about to
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  Speaker 2: take the nigga on vacation on Monday, so I rooby
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  Speaker 2: have a dumb bitch story for y'all week. We'll see, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: nigga be in the bathroom all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Kelly, I haven't joined Viva Life five yet.
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  Speaker 1: Come on through. We'll help you not be a d
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  Speaker 1: d S. All right, all right, one more time. Tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody they where they can find you, where they can
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm doctor Kelly OMZ and you can find me
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  Speaker 2: doctor Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: Fun. This is end. I got a lot of information
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  Speaker 1: that I needed, so thank you so so very much. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I have fun too, thanks for bringing out You know,
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  Speaker 1: the virgos can be real serious, so thank you for
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  Speaker 1: bringing out the laughter and me as well. Good you
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  Speaker 1: get into the bag.
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  Speaker 2: That's one thing about it.
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  Speaker 1: Virgo boy, they go ahead and get I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: that bag.
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