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- 0:10Speaker 1: Warning!
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- 0:11Speaker 3: The Root!
- 0:12Speaker 1: The Root's on fire!
- 0:14Speaker 4: You're about to experience the most high-octane, pedal-to-the-metal controversial show
- 0:18Speaker 4: of your life. Please buckle up and hold on tightly.
- 0:21Speaker 4: This station is not responsible for injuries. This is Wayne
- 0:25Speaker 4: Allen Root, direct from the entertainment capital of the world,
- 0:28Speaker 4: Las Vegas. What time is it? It's time for War!
- 0:34Speaker 4: Here's your host, 100% raw truth, 100% American made, the warrior,
- 0:40Speaker 4: Wayne Allen Root.
- 1:02Speaker 1: All right, here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
- 1:03Speaker 5: Welcome, welcome, welcome to day 15 of December 2025. My
- 1:07Speaker 5: name is Lee Elsie, the voice of freedom filling in
- 1:10Speaker 5: for the one and the only Wayne Allen Root.
- 1:13Speaker 1: I think Wayne told you.
- 1:15Speaker 5: Where he was going tonight. If not, I guess I'm
- 1:18Speaker 5: going to I'm going to let you in on a
- 1:20Speaker 5: little secret.
- 1:21Speaker 1: So Wayne is not with us tonight.
- 1:23Speaker 5: He'll probably be back tomorrow night, but he is hanging
- 1:27Speaker 5: out with President Donald J.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Trump tonight.
- 1:30Speaker 5: At a big fancy get-together in Washington, D.C. at the
- 1:36Speaker 5: White House. So it's kind of great. He's been going
- 1:39Speaker 5: there quite often, so kudos to Wayne Allen Root for
- 1:42Speaker 5: doing that.
- 1:43Speaker 1: So you get me, yours truly.
- 1:44Speaker 5: I do have a couple of great hours of broadcast
- 1:47Speaker 5: for you. So here's where you can watch us. You
- 1:50Speaker 5: can watch us on thegatewaypundit.com. Patriot TV, which, as I say,
- 1:56Speaker 5: every time I fill in, I get a chance to
- 1:59Speaker 5: be on the air for Patriot TV each and every
- 2:01Speaker 5: morning from 6 a.m. to 9 at 6 a.m. to
- 2:04Speaker 5: 10 o'clock East Coast time. And you can find that
- 2:08Speaker 5: on Rumble. So if you like any of what you
- 2:10Speaker 5: hear tonight or any time. You can always tune in
- 2:13Speaker 5: to me on Rumble each and every morning and get a.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Hold of us that way.
- 2:17Speaker 5: Of course, there's apps, there's radio stations that are holding us. There's, again,
- 2:20Speaker 5: Patriot TV, Gateway Pundit, Wayne's Rumble, Wayne's X, Wayne's Getter.
- 2:25Speaker 1: They all have, again, some.
- 2:27Speaker 5: Video slash audio that is being thrown out there. The
- 2:31Speaker 5: great folks behind the scenes making it all go. And
- 2:34Speaker 5: I want to thank them for making it happen. So
- 2:37Speaker 5: a couple of things. Before the show started, I was
- 2:39Speaker 5: paying very close attention. Brown University literally is, you know,
- 2:44Speaker 5: 40 miles from where I'm sitting right now, less than that,
- 2:46Speaker 5: probably 30 miles from where I'm sitting right now. And
- 2:51Speaker 5: students at Brown University are now sharing information with other
- 2:57Speaker 5: students and other folks that the person who.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Who was involved in the shooting allegedly yelled before he
- 3:10Speaker 1: started shooting.
- 3:13Speaker 5: And if you don't know this story maybe you're paying
- 3:15Speaker 5: attention to what had happened in australia which we'll get
- 3:19Speaker 5: to in a second but apparently a professor was shot
- 3:22Speaker 5: and killed the professor was was jewish This chilling detail,
- 3:27Speaker 5: emerging eyewitness accounts amid all the chaos, the massacre in
- 3:31Speaker 5: Rhode Island where a couple of students perished and I
- 3:35Speaker 5: think nine were wounded. Now, it's, you know, it's young kids, man.
- 3:45Speaker 5: This is never any good. But I ran across a video.
- 3:48Speaker 5: I'm going to just play it. It's 60 seconds, not even.
- 3:51Speaker 5: It's 40 seconds of audio. And You know, before I
- 3:55Speaker 5: get to some of the other stuff, this is the
- 3:57Speaker 5: Brown students in the library. They're all huddled together, scared
- 4:03Speaker 5: to death. Right.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Noises on the outside.
- 4:07Speaker 5: And they had just heard some maybe witnessed a shooting.
- 4:12Speaker 5: You know, a shooting in one of the classrooms in
- 4:15Speaker 5: one of the buildings. And they're sitting there hunkered down.
- 4:18Speaker 5: hands buried in their faces, and they're thinking the worst
- 4:22Speaker 5: possible thoughts. And I'm just saying, as I'm watching this,
- 4:24Speaker 5: I'm thinking to myself, what if that was my family member?
- 4:27Speaker 5: What if it's your family member who is going through
- 4:29Speaker 5: all this? And it sounded a little something like this.
- 4:33Speaker 5: The banging that you hear is the state police, the
- 4:37Speaker 5: SWAT team, you know, getting into that room.
- 4:40Speaker 1: But nonetheless, these kids are scared to death.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Police!
- 4:55Speaker 1: Promise police!
- 4:58Speaker 2: Hands, hands, hands!
- 5:01Speaker 3: Hands up, hands!
- 5:02Speaker 6: Hands!
- 5:02Speaker 7: Promise police!
- 5:03Speaker 3: Hands, hands, hands, hands!
- 5:04Speaker 2: Hands, hands, hands! Everybody get your hands!
- 5:07Speaker 8: Hands, hands, hands!
- 5:08Speaker 1: Hands, hands! Just keep your hands up for us.
- 5:10Speaker 6: Obviously there's something going on.
- 5:13Speaker 2: We're here to help you. Just listen to what we
- 5:14Speaker 2: have to say, okay? Alright, breathe. Anybody hurt?
- 5:17Speaker 4: No?
- 5:18Speaker 2: Alright, just listen to our commands.
- 5:19Speaker 6: We will get you out of here safely.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Is this it?
- 5:24Speaker 8: Is this the group?
- 5:24Speaker 7: Guys, if you have your bags, your phones, go grab
- 5:28Speaker 7: it now.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Quickly.
- 5:28Speaker 7: Go, go, go.
- 5:29Speaker 4: Get orderly fast.
- 5:29Speaker 7: Let's go.
- 5:30Speaker 5: All right, so there you got a bunch of kids
- 5:33Speaker 5: huddled together, scared to death, banging on the door.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Who knows?
- 5:37Speaker 1: It sounds like shots. It wasn't. It happened to be
- 5:39Speaker 1: the cops coming to the rescue. But here are kids. Now,
- 5:45Speaker 1: their hands are up.
- 5:48Speaker 5: Basically, they have rifles on. Not pointed at them, but
- 5:53Speaker 5: every cop is in the room now. And there's that
- 5:56Speaker 5: just sense of dread. And this is just happening way
- 6:01Speaker 5: too often in school settings across the country. But in
- 6:06Speaker 5: this case, it's got a different angle to it. Because
- 6:12Speaker 5: this particular act of senseless violence, campus tragedy, is again
- 6:19Speaker 5: a a potential harbinger of jihadist fury that is happening
- 6:26Speaker 5: across the globe. The world is at war with radical
- 6:32Speaker 5: Islamist lunatics. The venomous force that twists this faith into
- 6:39Speaker 5: some freakish fantasy that unleashes hell on innocent people. We
- 6:47Speaker 5: can no longer afford the denial of this. It's got
- 6:51Speaker 5: to be confronted head on. We must rally with unyielding
- 6:56Speaker 5: resolve on this. The time for basic turn-the-other-cheek types of conversation,
- 7:02Speaker 5: they're gone.
- 7:03Speaker 1: That's ended.
- 7:05Speaker 7: Gone.
- 7:07Speaker 5: And I'm convinced now, more than ever, as it seems like,
- 7:11Speaker 5: it's almost like a weekly occurrence where you have another
- 7:13Speaker 5: terror attack perpetrated by Muslim extremists against people of a
- 7:20Speaker 5: Judeo-Christian faith, for the most part, or Jews.
- 7:25Speaker 1: It's like a weekly occurrence. And look at Sydney.
- 7:32Speaker 5: Just yesterday, I guess the nation's deadliest terror outrage happened
- 7:39Speaker 5: at a fun festival by the sea in supposedly the
- 7:44Speaker 5: beginning of Hanukkah, where two monsters, a father and son duo,
- 7:52Speaker 5: shot 15 people, well, shot more than that, killed 15
- 7:56Speaker 5: souls and injured dozens more. I mean, killing a young girl,
- 8:01Speaker 5: a Holocaust survivor, rabbis, over 40 lay wounded, including some
- 8:09Speaker 5: of the law enforcement officers. So again, This is constant,
- 8:15Speaker 5: absolute constant anti-Semitic abomination. And it's just, it's happening again,
- 8:24Speaker 5: one after another, after another, after another. Today on my
- 8:26Speaker 5: morning show, I read a list of atrocities that have
- 8:30Speaker 5: happened just within the last few years. And in some cases,
- 8:34Speaker 5: you're talking about dozens dead. 50 dead, 40 dead, 30 injured,
- 8:39Speaker 5: 12 dead, 15 injured.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Over and over and over again, all Islamic attacks.
- 8:46Speaker 5: And as I pointed out today, earlier, you know, we
- 8:50Speaker 5: only see what the bias media allows us to see.
- 8:55Speaker 1: We don't really see all of the true facts. We
- 8:57Speaker 1: see what they let us see.
- 8:59Speaker 5: Or we see at least what some news outlets are
- 9:01Speaker 5: able to expose, right? And others want to try to
- 9:05Speaker 5: make a story up to try to protect, for some reason,
- 9:10Speaker 5: this or these godforsaken acts of insanity. So, with that
- 9:17Speaker 5: being said, I mean, you realize, guys, that there is
- 9:22Speaker 5: a genocide going on.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Literally, a genocide going on in Africa right now.
- 9:28Speaker 5: Where Muslims are wiping out village after village after village of...
- 9:35Speaker 5: people who consider themselves Christian. And it's some of the
- 9:39Speaker 5: most awful. I've seen the video footage. It's some of
- 9:42Speaker 5: the worst video.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Footage you can possibly imagine.
- 9:44Speaker 5: Just literally laying waste to an entire town or an
- 9:48Speaker 5: entire village of people. And there's videos out there. Some
- 9:53Speaker 5: of them are not quite dead. And what do they do?
- 9:56Speaker 5: They walk up, execute them, bang, like nothing, like they're
- 10:00Speaker 5: not even like killing an animal.
- 10:02Speaker 1: It's worse than that.
- 10:05Speaker 5: So this is just another stark reminder that this craziness,
- 10:13Speaker 5: this Islamophobia, The Islamic nation fortifying itself for this holy war.
- 10:22Speaker 5: You can call me Islamophobic all you want. I've been
- 10:26Speaker 5: screaming about this for the better part of a decade.
- 10:30Speaker 5: And nothing at all seems to be done about it.
- 10:33Speaker 5: And I'll go back to something that I.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Often talk about. How many Muslim nations... And Muslim.
- 10:40Speaker 5: Entities actually come out and speak out against any of
- 10:43Speaker 5: this stuff. Saudi Arabia usually, but that's because most of
- 10:46Speaker 5: the folks in the Muslim Brotherhood and some of these
- 10:49Speaker 5: other organizations hate Saudi Arabia.
- 10:52Speaker 1: But so far in this past.
- 10:54Speaker 9: Calendar, so far in the past calendar year, there have
- 10:57Speaker 9: been over 7,700 around the globe deaths because of the
- 11:03Speaker 9: Islamic religion.
- 11:04Speaker 5: 7,700 people have died. That's on the short side of
- 11:09Speaker 5: it because of these fanatics.
- 11:13Speaker 1: And it's not random. It's a holy war against infidels.
- 11:17Speaker 1: That's how they carve it out. That's how they justify it.
- 11:20Speaker 5: Whether it's ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, they brand anyone that's
- 11:25Speaker 5: not with them as harmful side effects that need to
- 11:30Speaker 5: be erased. And now they use social media. They have
- 11:35Speaker 5: the ability to come, have had the ability until President
- 11:38Speaker 5: Trump came along, to pour through our porous borders and
- 11:44Speaker 5: radicalize the disinfected or the disenchantized, let's say.
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- 15:10Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is the award zone. I got to,
- 15:13Speaker 1: I got to share something with you.
- 15:14Speaker 5: So here I am yelling and screaming in the studio,
- 15:16Speaker 5: wrapping up my monologue.
- 15:18Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, I've been doing this forever.
- 15:20Speaker 1: And I'm like, where's the music?
- 15:23Speaker 5: Because I'm supposed to get music, and it's got to
- 15:26Speaker 5: kind of take me to the break.
- 15:27Speaker 1: And when is the break going to come my way?
- 15:29Speaker 1: And I didn't hear any music.
- 15:33Speaker 5: And then I'm getting like an avalanche of text messages
- 15:36Speaker 5: from all the boys saying, hey, yeah, we're in commercial break.
- 15:40Speaker 1: So you can stop talking and stop yelling.
- 15:43Speaker 5: Nobody's listening anymore because we had to go to a break.
- 15:48Speaker 1: So I was in the middle. I don't know what happened.
- 15:52Speaker 1: My headphones must not have been plugged in all the way.
- 15:54Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 15:56Speaker 1: This has been one of these.
- 15:57Speaker 5: These last couple of days, man, for me, have been
- 16:01Speaker 5: the weirdest vibe.
- 16:03Speaker 1: I literally, I'll share it with you guys. I'm going
- 16:08Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about it.
- 16:10Speaker 5: Some of the Muslim fanatics in a little while. I'm
- 16:12Speaker 5: gonna get some more information I wanna share. But like
- 16:14Speaker 5: the last couple of days, I literally wrecked this table
- 16:18Speaker 5: at the house, broke my snowblower. We had snow and
- 16:23Speaker 5: then I took the snowblower out I accidentally ran over
- 16:27Speaker 5: an outside rug and it got caught up.
- 16:29Speaker 1: In the snowblower blades.
- 16:31Speaker 5: And in doing so, there was a table on the rug,
- 16:33Speaker 5: you know, it was sitting on a table or the
- 16:35Speaker 5: rug was sitting on the rug on the patio.
- 16:38Speaker 1: And the whole thing flipped up in the air.
- 16:40Speaker 5: And this, I don't know, it's a, to me, it's
- 16:43Speaker 5: a piece of crap table made in Vietnam, but apparently
- 16:46Speaker 5: it's expensive.
- 16:47Speaker 1: And I broke it.
- 16:50Speaker 5: Right. And then I had to dig the remnants of
- 16:53Speaker 5: the rug out. out of the snowblower, which wasn't any fun.
- 16:58Speaker 5: That took me a couple hours. I'm serious about that.
- 17:01Speaker 5: I was supposed to go to like a political. I
- 17:03Speaker 5: couldn't go.
- 17:03Speaker 1: I was going to be late.
- 17:06Speaker 5: So anyway, it was like, but then for like the
- 17:08Speaker 5: rest of the last 24 hours, everything I touch, I break,
- 17:12Speaker 5: I'm breaking stuff.
- 17:12Speaker 1: So I got to be careful what I touch and
- 17:15Speaker 1: some stuff that, uh, I certainly don't want a break. Anyway,
- 17:20Speaker 1: nobody cares about any of that.
- 17:20Speaker 5: But I was talking and I was screaming and yelling
- 17:24Speaker 5: with my big finale and my big finish to the
- 17:26Speaker 5: super great opening monologue. And apparently I was just yelling
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- 19:33Speaker 1: today is I haven't been able to talk. There are
- 19:35Speaker 1: certain words today I can't say.
- 19:36Speaker 7: I don't know why.
- 19:37Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. And my headphones are
- 19:39Speaker 1: falling out. It's unbelievable.
- 19:42Speaker 5: Anyway, that's yours truly. So maybe I'll run around outside
- 19:48Speaker 5: and jump in the snow. And when we come back,
- 19:50Speaker 5: we're going to talk to my very good pal. His
- 19:53Speaker 5: name is Hans Despain, and he's been out with me before.
- 19:56Speaker 5: He's an economic professor at UMass Amherst, and we'll lean
- 20:00Speaker 5: on him to talk a little bit about the economy.
- 20:02Speaker 1: But I also want to get his opinion on.
- 20:04Speaker 5: Some of the stuff that I already mentioned, talking a
- 20:06Speaker 5: little bit about terror and some of the things going
- 20:09Speaker 5: on around the world. He is a great person. a
- 20:11Speaker 5: person to talk to and bounce stuff off. So he'll
- 20:13Speaker 5: be coming up right after the bottom of the hour.
- 20:15Speaker 5: Keep watching on the Gateway Pundit, Patriot.TV, and all the
- 20:19Speaker 5: other great outlets right here on War, the War Zone.
- 20:23Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
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- 22:08Speaker 5: My name is Lee Elson, the voice of freedom filling
- 22:10Speaker 5: in for Wayne Allen Root, who is partying like a
- 22:13Speaker 5: rock star with the president of the United States tonight
- 22:16Speaker 5: in Washington.
- 22:17Speaker 1: He should be back tomorrow. Joining us right now, one
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- 22:35Speaker 7: I think your mic is muted. Sorry about that.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I was muted.
- 22:39Speaker 7: You know, it's just like you usually do on your show.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Well, welcome, buddy.
- 22:44Speaker 4: How are you?
- 22:45Speaker 1: I'm doing well.
- 22:46Speaker 7: How about yourself?
- 22:47Speaker 1: We're doing good.
- 22:47Speaker 5: So I guess before, if we have time, we'll do
- 22:50Speaker 5: the economics part of this, maybe later in this first
- 22:53Speaker 5: segment or in the second segment.
- 22:55Speaker 4: Oh, thank God.
- 22:56Speaker 7: I would rather not do the econ.
- 22:58Speaker 5: Well, I would like to just get your... I mean,
- 23:00Speaker 5: we've got a world that seems like it's upside down, brother. And,
- 23:03Speaker 5: you know, I know you... you see the kids every
- 23:06Speaker 5: day and, you know, you're in class every single day.
- 23:08Speaker 5: And what's the feeling when the kids see a shooting,
- 23:11Speaker 5: you know, like at the Hanukkah festival or even closer
- 23:14Speaker 5: to home, a shooting right down the road in Brown
- 23:17Speaker 5: at Brown.
- 23:17Speaker 7: What's that crazy.
- 23:19Speaker 3: You know, it's the, we're, we're, we're in finals week
- 23:24Speaker 3: right now. So I haven't had a lot of interaction
- 23:26Speaker 3: with students, but, uh, I've had some and, uh, you know,
- 23:33Speaker 3: people get anxious, uh, You know, we've got a lot
- 23:40Speaker 3: of political tensions. I haven't seen any commentary on what
- 23:48Speaker 3: motivated the shootings at Brown.
- 23:50Speaker 7: Have you?
- 23:51Speaker 5: Well, there were some rumors circulating that, you know, the
- 23:55Speaker 5: shooter did say the the Allah Akbar, but there's been
- 23:58Speaker 5: no confirmation of that. And so I'm not, you know,
- 24:01Speaker 5: I'm not ready to go with that, but that was
- 24:03Speaker 5: some of the rumors that have been floating around out there.
- 24:05Speaker 1: And who knows?
- 24:06Speaker 3: Yeah. I, I, yeah, I heard the rumors, but I,
- 24:09Speaker 3: you know, yeah, but who knows?
- 24:12Speaker 7: But yeah, definitely. It gets good.
- 24:15Speaker 3: It always gets me a little bit nervous, you know?
- 24:17Speaker 3: I think there's reasons for people to be upset and, and,
- 24:24Speaker 3: Of course, it should never turn to violence like that.
- 24:26Speaker 7: That's crazy, but it happens. And the shootings in Australia also.
- 24:31Speaker 4: Right.
- 24:35Speaker 5: Have you ever had to get to a position in class?
- 24:38Speaker 5: I mean, you've been teaching for a long time. Have
- 24:40Speaker 5: you ever had to sit down with the kids after
- 24:43Speaker 5: something like this happened and just sort of talk it
- 24:46Speaker 5: out with them over the course of.
- 24:48Speaker 1: A week or even longer?
- 24:50Speaker 5: You know, I point to Sandy Hook, although those kids
- 24:53Speaker 5: were smaller, but there have been, you know, been mass shootings.
- 24:56Speaker 5: It's like a weekly occurrence now across the country. So,
- 24:59Speaker 5: I mean, have you ever sat just sat down and
- 25:02Speaker 5: talked to these guys?
- 25:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'll share you, you know,
- 25:07Speaker 3: two stories. One incidental event. The other, one of the
- 25:13Speaker 3: generation's most significant events. Not at UMass Amherst. I won't
- 25:20Speaker 3: name the college that I was employed at, but you
- 25:22Speaker 3: know which one. People can look it up if they want,
- 25:24Speaker 3: I guess. But there was an accusation of hazing. And
- 25:30Speaker 3: it was a baseball team, you know, near and close
- 25:33Speaker 3: to your heart. And I asked, and, yeah, you know,
- 25:38Speaker 3: people got transported to the hospital, freshmen. But I just
- 25:44Speaker 3: started talking about it, and, you know, where's the leadership
- 25:49Speaker 3: is what I asked. You know, other sports teams, I
- 25:54Speaker 3: followed the basketball team and soccer teams.
- 25:57Speaker 7: No way would that ever happen. No way. They insisted
- 26:00Speaker 7: it wasn't hazing.
- 26:02Speaker 3: Anyway, the point of that story is, you know, when
- 26:05Speaker 3: I left the classroom, I went back to my office
- 26:07Speaker 3: and there was an email to.
- 26:09Speaker 7: All the faculty not to talk about it.
- 26:11Speaker 3: And immediately I just, you know, I was very upset that,
- 26:17Speaker 3: you know, this is a community moment.
- 26:20Speaker 7: You talk about these things.
- 26:22Speaker 3: And that discussion, you know, we had the captain of
- 26:26Speaker 3: the basketball team and a soccer player in that class.
- 26:30Speaker 7: I knew them both well.
- 26:32Speaker 3: And they immediately said this, you know, they just echoed
- 26:35Speaker 3: what I said. They said, you know, that's ridiculous. You know,
- 26:39Speaker 3: somebody on the baseball team should have made sure that
- 26:41Speaker 3: that didn't happen.
- 26:42Speaker 7: That one's incidental. The more serious.
- 26:45Speaker 2: One is 9-11.
- 26:47Speaker 3: And I was at UMass Amherst. As you know, Lee,
- 26:52Speaker 3: I was there and left and came back. But I
- 26:55Speaker 3: was at UMass Amherst in 2001.
- 26:57Speaker 7: And I spent several days.
- 27:01Speaker 3: All we talked about was, you know, that event and
- 27:08Speaker 3: issues related. And again, we were not prohibited to talk
- 27:14Speaker 3: about it. But we did receive an email suggesting that
- 27:17Speaker 3: we don't. I thought that was a mistake. I think
- 27:21Speaker 3: you talk about these things, you know.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I agree.
- 27:25Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you talk it out.
- 27:27Speaker 5: In particular, those kids are— and I say kids, but those
- 27:30Speaker 5: students are— are searching for someone to hear them out.
- 27:33Speaker 1: And, you know, you're a perfect guy to do that.
- 27:35Speaker 5: And, you know, as far as the hazing goes, man, I,
- 27:38Speaker 5: I've been on a lot of teams, Hans, I never
- 27:40Speaker 5: understood that. And I think it's, I was always, I
- 27:43Speaker 5: always pushed back against that. Any team that I was on,
- 27:45Speaker 5: we never did anything like that, but I could never
- 27:48Speaker 5: understand that.
- 27:48Speaker 1: It made no sense to me. It doesn't build any camaraderie.
- 27:52Speaker 1: All it does is build animosity.
- 27:54Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 27:55Speaker 3: And it's what the baseball player said. in that particular incident,
- 28:00Speaker 3: you know, was that there was no hazing. What happened
- 28:02Speaker 3: is a couple of freshmen that got transported thought they
- 28:06Speaker 3: were going to be in big trouble, so they told
- 28:09Speaker 3: the medical personnel that it was a hazing incident.
- 28:14Speaker 7: That's why they got so drunk. Right.
- 28:16Speaker 3: But including one of the freshmen that got transported but
- 28:20Speaker 3: was in the class, I found that out like six
- 28:22Speaker 3: months later, he confessed it.
- 28:24Speaker 7: He said, I wasn't going to say anything.
- 28:26Speaker 3: He said, I didn't accuse anybody of hazing, but I
- 28:28Speaker 3: was one of the kids that got transported.
- 28:30Speaker 7: It was just an over-drinking.
- 28:31Speaker 3: And the upperclassmen encouraged it, but it was not hazing.
- 28:38Speaker 5: But just a general sense of hazing, I've always hated that.
- 28:41Speaker 5: Never made any sense to me.
- 28:43Speaker 3: I think hazing happens, but I think that there's a
- 28:48Speaker 3: lot of things that bring teams together. And sharing a drink,
- 28:54Speaker 3: whether you're legal or not, is something that happens. I'm
- 28:58Speaker 3: not saying it's right, but I'm just saying it happens.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Among other things, I think teasing each other is an
- 29:05Speaker 3: incredibly important thing to do.
- 29:07Speaker 7: If you want to call that hazing, I just think
- 29:09Speaker 7: you're wrong.
- 29:10Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's hazing at all. That's different.
- 29:12Speaker 1: That's completely different.
- 29:13Speaker 11: Exactly.
- 29:14Speaker 3: When I tell your listeners that you have big feet
- 29:17Speaker 3: and big ears, I mean that and all the affectionate.
- 29:21Speaker 1: Warmth that I can muster. But you're not lying about
- 29:25Speaker 1: that kid. Exactly.
- 29:27Speaker 7: That's it.
- 29:28Speaker 1: It's not hazing.
- 29:31Speaker 7: To me, it's expressing an affection, you know, honestly. Yeah,
- 29:36Speaker 7: that's what builds team.
- 29:37Speaker 1: To me, that's what guys do. You know, it's they
- 29:41Speaker 1: just do it.
- 29:41Speaker 5: I mean, the better the better you can break stones,
- 29:44Speaker 5: the probably closer friendship you have with that person.
- 29:46Speaker 1: That's just the way it is.
- 29:47Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 29:47Speaker 7: And it's you know, it's the it it.
- 29:51Speaker 3: Articulate something else when when you tease one another or
- 29:56Speaker 3: whatever you know and it can turn serious uh and
- 30:00Speaker 3: you know we need to learn to be conscientious about
- 30:03Speaker 3: it anyway yeah these are important events and we need
- 30:06Speaker 3: to talk about them and um i i do it
- 30:09Speaker 3: all the time.
- 30:10Speaker 5: You know All right, Hans Despain, again, economics professor at
- 30:14Speaker 5: UMass Amherst.
- 30:15Speaker 1: All right, so we'll switch gears.
- 30:17Speaker 5: We only have a couple minutes left here, and then
- 30:18Speaker 5: we can come back and do five or six minutes
- 30:21Speaker 5: more if you don't mind. But I'll ask you the
- 30:23Speaker 5: very generic 30,000-foot view since we haven't talked in a while.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Hey, Hans, how's the economy right now?
- 30:31Speaker 7: Well— You know, I think the fundamentals are good.
- 30:35Speaker 3: And I think the Trump administration needs to be very
- 30:40Speaker 3: careful not to commit the same error that the Biden
- 30:45Speaker 3: administration and then and then candidate Harris did, which, you know,
- 30:50Speaker 3: telling an American public things are perfectly fine.
- 30:56Speaker 7: There's a number of things you can look at.
- 30:57Speaker 3: You know, with the government shutdown, we're missing a lot
- 31:00Speaker 3: of the most recent data. But unemployment is low. Inflation
- 31:05Speaker 3: is under control for.
- 31:08Speaker 7: Sure. Stock market is doing fine.
- 31:11Speaker 3: But Job creation based on some private data that has
- 31:18Speaker 3: been collected, because BLS, again, doesn't have the most recent data,
- 31:23Speaker 3: is definitely weakened. I don't think we'll see any more
- 31:26Speaker 3: rate cuts, in fact, because of worries about inflation. So
- 31:36Speaker 3: Trump administration needs to be very conscientious about it. The
- 31:39Speaker 3: bigger problem, Lee, for me is one important statistic I
- 31:44Speaker 3: follow is consumer sentiment from University of Michigan is the
- 31:49Speaker 3: best source for consumer sentiment. It's at a historical low,
- 31:53Speaker 3: not an all-time low, but it's an index that usually
- 31:56Speaker 3: averages 90 is the measure.
- 31:58Speaker 7: You know, it's like a quarterback rating, right? It has
- 32:01Speaker 7: whatever in it.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Who knows? But right now it's at 55, you know,
- 32:06Speaker 3: so well below its historical average of about 90.
- 32:09Speaker 7: It's been followed since 1946.
- 32:11Speaker 3: That's significant because that has been a strong indicator of
- 32:18Speaker 3: predicting a forecoming recession. So, you know, and as you know,
- 32:24Speaker 3: President Trump's numbers are down, in particular, his handling of
- 32:29Speaker 3: the economy is And surprisingly, you know, when you look
- 32:34Speaker 3: at it in terms of Republicans, Democrats and independents, It's
- 32:37Speaker 3: down the most with Republicans. It's down 10 points with Republicans,
- 32:43Speaker 3: about two or three points. Democrats only have a 10
- 32:47Speaker 3: point approval rating when he entered. You know, now it's
- 32:50Speaker 3: down to seven. So, you know, it doesn't have far
- 32:52Speaker 3: to go. But nonetheless, independents have only gone down by
- 32:55Speaker 3: five or six.
- 32:55Speaker 10: All right, Hans.
- 32:56Speaker 7: I hear the music, so I know what that means.
- 32:58Speaker 1: We got to take a short break and we'll do
- 33:00Speaker 1: that when we come back. We'll keep Hans around.
- 33:02Speaker 5: If he's kind enough to do that, we'd love to
- 33:05Speaker 5: have him for a second segment.
- 33:06Speaker 1: So we'll talk a little bit more specifics.
- 33:08Speaker 5: I got a couple specific questions about the economy.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Listen, you can watch what's going on at the Gateway Pundit.
- 33:13Speaker 1: You can watch Patriot.TV.
- 33:15Speaker 5: You can listen on all the great radio stations from
- 33:17Speaker 5: one coast to another. You can also go to Root
- 33:19Speaker 5: for America. Email me, leelcradio at gmail.com. If you've got
- 33:22Speaker 5: a question for me or even Hans, I'll try.
- 33:24Speaker 1: To pass it along. We'll come right back. This is
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- 36:53Speaker 1: All right, welcome back.
- 36:54Speaker 2: Warzone.
- 36:55Speaker 5: Watch us at Patriot.TV. Listen on the great radio stations.
- 36:59Speaker 5: I'm Lee Elsey.
- 36:59Speaker 1: Filling in for Wayne Allen. He'll be back. At least
- 37:03Speaker 1: we think.
- 37:03Speaker 5: He'll be back tomorrow, although he is partying with the
- 37:06Speaker 5: president of the United States tonight, so who knows.
- 37:09Speaker 1: Anything is up for grabs.
- 37:10Speaker 5: My guest this segment is Hans Despain, and we always
- 37:13Speaker 5: appreciate him, economics professor at UMass Amherst. So Hans, you've
- 37:18Speaker 5: written extensively on how corporate greed and monopolies contribute to
- 37:25Speaker 5: price gouging. And I, you know, at first when you
- 37:29Speaker 5: taught this or talked about it, I was pushed back
- 37:31Speaker 5: a little bit, but I think I'm sort of I'm
- 37:33Speaker 5: moving in a little bit. The needle's moving a little
- 37:35Speaker 5: bit more for me in your direction. Corporate profiteering, monopoly power,
- 37:39Speaker 5: it seems to be driving inflation.
- 37:41Speaker 1: So what say you to all that? Oh, my goodness.
- 37:45Speaker 7: Okay.
- 37:45Speaker 3: You always, I mean, you know, for just on your show,
- 37:48Speaker 3: it's fine, Lee, but holy moly, you know, you need to...
- 37:52Speaker 3: Ask Mr. Root if this is going to be OK. Look,
- 37:56Speaker 3: first of all, let me just say any article you
- 37:58Speaker 3: ever come across that has it say corporate greed in
- 38:02Speaker 3: the title of it written by me, that was the
- 38:05Speaker 3: editor that made that title, edited it himself or herself.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Which is fine.
- 38:12Speaker 3: You know, if they believe that we'll get more readers,
- 38:15Speaker 3: you know, the folks I work with, I trust them.
- 38:20Speaker 7: But nonetheless, I wouldn't necessarily call it corporate greed.
- 38:23Speaker 3: What happens is, well, specifically, look, The inflation that we
- 38:30Speaker 3: had happened, and let's go, remind me to talk about
- 38:34Speaker 3: Vice President Vance on a related issue. But about 2%
- 38:40Speaker 3: of the 7% peak of inflation, about 2% of it
- 38:44Speaker 3: was demand side. You know, the COVID checks that Trump
- 38:48Speaker 3: and then Biden, Trump twice and Biden once set out.
- 38:53Speaker 3: About 2% of it from the economic studies I trust.
- 38:58Speaker 7: Those are the best estimates.
- 39:01Speaker 3: Of course, there are also supply chain bottlenecks, and that's
- 39:05Speaker 3: actually what initiated the uptick in inflation. But what made
- 39:10Speaker 3: it persist and drove it for the last at least
- 39:14Speaker 3: 18 months is was corporations took advantage of the fact
- 39:19Speaker 3: that they could look at the data. They have economists
- 39:21Speaker 3: just like me that they hire to look at these things.
- 39:24Speaker 3: And they looked at inflation expectations, not actual inflation, but
- 39:28Speaker 3: what do Americans believe?
- 39:30Speaker 7: Inflation will be in the future?
- 39:32Speaker 3: And it was coming in around 4% or 5%. So,
- 39:34Speaker 3: of course, they recommend to the executive team, if you're
- 39:38Speaker 3: big enough and powerful enough, increase your prices. It's an
- 39:43Speaker 3: opportunity to increase your prices because Americans are expecting prices
- 39:46Speaker 3: to go up. And so there's some good— one of my
- 39:50Speaker 3: colleagues at UMass Amherst, Isabella Weber, I think has a
- 39:55Speaker 3: definitive study on this. And this is what drove it
- 40:05Speaker 3: those last 18 months.
- 40:06Speaker 7: In particular, if you.
- 40:07Speaker 11: Look at— I' m.
- 40:09Speaker 3: Not picking on any company, but FedEx had an all-time
- 40:13Speaker 3: record— level of profits in company history in 2002. They
- 40:20Speaker 3: raised their prices in 2023. Because again, they knew they
- 40:27Speaker 3: could do it. They were a big enough and powerful
- 40:29Speaker 3: enough company. So there's a lot more studies being done now.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Economists always have some disagreements about But most are coming
- 40:43Speaker 3: around to the idea that that's what made the inflation persist.
- 40:47Speaker 7: Can I say something about President Van?
- 40:49Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead.
- 40:50Speaker 4: No, no, go.
- 40:50Speaker 1: Please, go ahead.
- 40:51Speaker 7: No, it's a pet.
- 40:52Speaker 3: Peeve of mine that happened recently is that back in
- 40:57Speaker 3: the earlier this year, I've forgotten exactly what month, maybe
- 41:02Speaker 3: late spring, early summer, Vice President Van said that the
- 41:07Speaker 3: price of homes had nearly doubled.
- 41:10Speaker 7: Since Biden had taken office. And about a week.
- 41:15Speaker 11: Ago, factcheck.org, that website, they fact-checked that statement.
- 41:26Speaker 7: And they said, highly exaggerated.
- 41:30Speaker 3: And they said, home prices have gone up by 37%.
- 41:35Speaker 3: But this is the mistake the Biden administration made.
- 41:37Speaker 7: It is true.
- 41:39Speaker 3: The price of homes on average across the nation went
- 41:42Speaker 3: up 37%.
- 41:43Speaker 7: I fully embrace that fact. But what Mr.
- 41:47Speaker 3: Vance was referring to is the 30-year lifetime of the
- 41:53Speaker 3: mortgage with the interest rates going up from 3% to 7%.
- 41:58Speaker 7: When you include that, it more than doubled. More than doubled.
- 42:02Speaker 3: He understated how much the price of homes had gone up.
- 42:08Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're going through the roof. I mean, the
- 42:10Speaker 5: average price is now over $ 440, 000, and the average owner,
- 42:15Speaker 5: the first-time buyers are 40 years old, I mean, when
- 42:18Speaker 5: they're buying a home.
- 42:19Speaker 10: Correct.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Average interest rates are 6%, and the price of the
- 42:24Speaker 3: home after 30 years is.
- 42:26Speaker 7: Almost $ 1. 1 million, $ 1, 100, 000.
- 42:27Speaker 11: Crazy. Yeah.
- 42:32Speaker 7: More than half of it going to interest.
- 42:34Speaker 3: You know?
- 42:34Speaker 7: So that's, that's the, that's the issue.
- 42:36Speaker 1: Non-desperate. Listen, I wish we had more time, buddy. I
- 42:39Speaker 1: appreciate you carving out some time for us tonight.
- 42:40Speaker 7: One more thing.
- 42:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 42:43Speaker 7: You have a Dr. Nagel coming on today. Here's a book.
- 42:46Speaker 3: I just finished it. So, you know, people should stay
- 42:50Speaker 3: tuned in. I should have told them, if you only
- 42:52Speaker 3: have time for one segment, cut me off.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Watch Dr.
- 42:55Speaker 1: Neville. I appreciate that. He's coming up in a little
- 43:00Speaker 1: less than a half hour. We'll be right back. You're
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