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Ask Greg Cosell On Patreon: What's The Eagles' Obsession With Backup TE Usage? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The following is a shortened version of our Ask Greg
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  Speaker 2: Craig, if you don't mind, I might take about thirty
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  Speaker 2: seconds here to ask this question because I want to
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  Speaker 2: lay it out to you because I just want to
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  Speaker 2: get your opinion on everything here, and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: about the offense first and foremost. I think the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: offensive scheme is completely broken again. I know Adam alludes
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  Speaker 2: to it all the time, and I think he's absolutely
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  Speaker 2: right that the wide receivers are running just comeback routes
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  Speaker 2: and go routes. There really seems to be nothing across
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the field, and I know that could
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  Speaker 2: be a Jalen Hurts preference or whatnot. But like the
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  Speaker 2: Detroit touchdown with Jamison Williams, I can't recall the last
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  Speaker 2: time the Eagles had a play like that that resulted
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  Speaker 2: in any yardage with a wide receiver running and getting
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  Speaker 2: yards after the catch. That hasn't been an over the
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  Speaker 2: top throw. But what I will say to this is,
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  Speaker 2: and that could be diagnosed whichever you way you want.
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  Speaker 2: But what tells me that they're fundamentally not thinking clearly
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  Speaker 2: on offense is any time I see Grant Palcaterra and
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  Speaker 2: Kylon grantson on the field and the run game and
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  Speaker 2: their idea that if we put these two tight ends
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  Speaker 2: on the field who have no earthly idea how to
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  Speaker 2: block and think that that's going to help solve the
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  Speaker 2: run game. And I know Al alluded to this last
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  Speaker 2: week about or two weeks ago about running out of
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  Speaker 2: eleven personnel. What pissed me off the most is we
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  Speaker 2: also have another guy on the roster's name Cameron Latsu,
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  Speaker 2: and then the one snap that he had in that game,
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  Speaker 2: he blew up Aiden Hutchinson. And I just can't find,
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  Speaker 2: like rationalize where they believe that, hey, if we if
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  Speaker 2: we go big. We go with these two tight ends
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  Speaker 2: who just clearly they can't do it. They cannot perform
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  Speaker 2: the task that's being asked of them, and we have
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  Speaker 2: a guy who has and they're not doing it. I
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  Speaker 2: just look at the whole scheme in general, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it's just broken. So my question to you would be,
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  Speaker 2: if they called you tomorrow and said, Greg, we're stuck.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know the answers to the test here, what
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  Speaker 2: would be your suggestion the first thing you would tell them, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to get out of this rut, what
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  Speaker 2: would you suggest that they start doing first to make
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  Speaker 2: the offense at least look functionable again.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's all that there, Frank.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize. I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: Look when I talked to Jeff last night and we
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  Speaker 3: broke down the tape and we had a longer discussion
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  Speaker 3: before we broke down some plays. The question I keep
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  Speaker 3: coming up with with this offense because look, Nick Sirianni's
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  Speaker 3: been in the league for a while, he's been with
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  Speaker 3: Philip Rivers, he's been with really good players. It's it
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  Speaker 3: can't be that he doesn't know things. Same with Kevin Petulo.
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  Speaker 3: I know for fans it's easy to say, these guys,
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  Speaker 3: you know, oh it's a coaching they're terrible. It really
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  Speaker 3: can't be that, okay, which, by the way, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: knocking your point. I'm just saying it's you know, it
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  Speaker 3: can't be that these guys have no idea what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: It can't be that. You know, I've been around coaches
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  Speaker 3: for many, many years. I've been fortunate enough in my
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  Speaker 3: career to sit in meetings and they all these coaches
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  Speaker 3: can know, you know, they know what they know obviously,
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  Speaker 3: but what they know they can do a lot with.
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  Speaker 3: So the question I kept saying to Jeff and didn't
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  Speaker 3: I don't We didn't have an answer. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: an answer, but I'll attempt to try to give you
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  Speaker 3: what I think should happen. The question I kept saying
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  Speaker 3: was why why does their pass game Let's start with
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  Speaker 3: their pass game. Why why does their past game look
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  Speaker 3: like a ninth grade pass game?
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  Speaker 4: It's a why.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the answer. I'm being honest, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: How you doing, Yeah, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So two quickies. One, I haven't I asked you a
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  Speaker 4: couple of times over the season about mccooper's play, but
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  Speaker 4: I haven't asked you in probably about five weeks, so
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  Speaker 4: I've seen improved myself. What have you seen from him?
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  Speaker 4: And then two on one of the drives, I can't
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  Speaker 4: remember what quarter it was, I think his second half.
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  Speaker 4: The Lions drove down and it was a fourth down
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  Speaker 4: and golf through the past in the back of the
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  Speaker 4: end zone and at somebody's feet. But it was a
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  Speaker 4: crosser coming across that was wide open. Did you see
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  Speaker 4: that play? And was was somebody picked because he was
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  Speaker 4: wide opening? Yeah, And it seemed like Coop was the
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  Speaker 4: one that was behind them.
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  Speaker 3: We broke down that play actually, because I know exactly
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  Speaker 3: the player talking about. That was the play in which
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  Speaker 3: Phillips just beat Penny Sewell right off the edge and
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  Speaker 3: forced Goff to have to move to his left and
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  Speaker 3: throw the ball way before he wanted to. But the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles were in man coverage. It was Brock right was
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  Speaker 3: the tight end to the left of the formational and
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  Speaker 3: he ran a shallow crosser and Mitchell was on him
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  Speaker 3: and it was man coverage and he got caught in
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  Speaker 3: the traffic, and if Goff had had time in the pocket,
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  Speaker 3: it would have been a walking touchdown. But this was
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  Speaker 3: the Jaylen Phillips factor. Jalen Phillips beat Penny Sewell right off.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff knows exactly what I'm talking about. We broke it down.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Phillips beat Penny Sewell off the edge, so I don't
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  Speaker 3: even think got a hand on him. It was such
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  Speaker 3: a good pass rush and he forced GoF to move
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  Speaker 3: and and Goff didn't have time. But you're right, it
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  Speaker 3: would have been a walking touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: And then then what have you're saying from mccouvera and
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  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Much better, eyes, much better. You know, you can see
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  Speaker 3: that he's learning how to play within the context of
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  Speaker 3: the vic fango defense. Definite improvement. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: when I say that, that doesn't mean he's never gonna
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  Speaker 3: make a bad play. You know, people always take this
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  Speaker 3: stuff to be one hundred percent. You know, you either
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  Speaker 3: love something, you hate something, or if you say a
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  Speaker 3: guy's good and then he makes a bad play, well
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  Speaker 3: see I told you made a bad play. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you know this is the NFL. You know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but he's much much better out. You can
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  Speaker 3: clearly see it. He's much more comfortable, and you know
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  Speaker 3: that's that's who we You know, he's a really good
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  Speaker 3: football player.
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  Speaker 5: a leek I think was the one, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry your name is escaping me. It's and it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't say it in the corner.
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  Speaker 1: Marky Mark, thank you, that's right, Sorry about that.
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  Speaker 2: Mark?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, you up to apologize. I got I got
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  Speaker 6: my name abbreviated. So yeah, don't worry, hey, And just
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  Speaker 6: you know, Jeff, my wife doesn't even know my name
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  Speaker 6: at the time.
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  Speaker 5: So sometimes that could be a good thing. When it
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  Speaker 5: comes to the honey list, say your name and you
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  Speaker 5: can't do the task.
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  Speaker 6: Let's go with that. Now, she's a sweetie. Hey, Greg,
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  Speaker 6: I'll have one of two questions. You can either talk
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  Speaker 6: about like Kobe Dean what you see on tape or
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  Speaker 6: or just kind of unpacked. What's happening with their decision
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  Speaker 6: making on fourth downs at the end of the game
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  Speaker 6: and just going for it when there's the risk of
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  Speaker 6: turning it over in a bad position, and just I
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  Speaker 6: get the idea of going for it, but everything in
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  Speaker 6: the game says not in that situation, you know, So
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  Speaker 6: whichever one you want to do or both.
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  Speaker 3: The second part, the second question, I can't answer Mark,
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  Speaker 3: because I don't know what's in Nick Siriani's head. I go,
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  Speaker 3: I can't answer that, but I can speak to the
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  Speaker 3: Kobe Dean, who I think is playing really, really high
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  Speaker 3: level and he played that way this last seven or
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  Speaker 3: eight games last year before he got hurt, and now
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  Speaker 3: that he's back, I think he's playing terrific football. He's had.
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  Speaker 3: He's a terrific blitzer, which was one of his strengths
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  Speaker 3: coming out of Georgia. You know, obviously everybody looked at
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  Speaker 3: his size as a potential issue, but he plays. I
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  Speaker 3: hate this phrase, but it's true, and it took a
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  Speaker 3: shape place bigger than his size. But we all saw
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  Speaker 3: him this this past week when he blitzed and just
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  Speaker 3: blew up Montgomery and had the sack on golf. He's
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  Speaker 3: a terrific run defender. He has a great feel, he
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  Speaker 3: has a quick trigger, he sees it and goes. I
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  Speaker 3: think he's playing terrific football, and since he's come back,
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  Speaker 3: he's not the only one. Obviously, Jalen Phillips now playing
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  Speaker 3: two games is a huge factor. But you know, since
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  Speaker 3: Dean has come back. You see clearly that he's playing
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  Speaker 3: twice as many snaps as Campbell and there's reasons for that.
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  Speaker 3: So uh so he I think he's playing great football.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'll even say that I wouldn't say he
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  Speaker 6: gave the sack. All say that Montgomery sacked you know,
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  Speaker 6: his own I know what you mean? Yeah, yeah, Hey,
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  Speaker 6: what do you what do you attribute? Do you attribute?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 6: It just seems like he's faster this year. Is it
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  Speaker 6: just because of his you know, great things before? Do
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  Speaker 6: you think he's actually, you know, just worked out better
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  Speaker 6: because his speed wasn't his game as much before. But
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  Speaker 6: he's not against the receivers.
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  Speaker 3: He's not fast. Yeah. He also had a great play
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  Speaker 3: where he ran with Gibbs on a wheel ring. He's
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  Speaker 3: a classic case and you hear this all the time
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  Speaker 3: in the scouting community. You know, we all say it
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  Speaker 3: when we watch players and then we see them at
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  Speaker 3: the combine and they don't run a fast forty. He
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  Speaker 3: plays faster than his time speed. It might sound cliched,
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  Speaker 3: but you can clearly notice it when you watch tape
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  Speaker 3: that some guys play fast. And that could be a
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  Speaker 3: mental thing that then translates to physicality, to physical play
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  Speaker 3: or who knows the answer, but they just seem to
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  Speaker 3: play faster on the field than they do when you
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  Speaker 3: put a stopwatch on them from a track stance, which
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  Speaker 3: is not football.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when you have great instincts and you
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  Speaker 5: know where to be.
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  Speaker 1: T J.
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  Speaker 5: Edwards is a good example of a guy who plays
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  Speaker 5: faster than his time speed once he understood the defense
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  Speaker 5: and he could get to his spots like Nikobe Dean
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  Speaker 5: didn't defend Gibbs because he's just as fast. He took
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  Speaker 5: a great angle and got to where he needed to be, so,
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  Speaker 5: you know, fast the shortest point between two distances right
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  Speaker 5: the straight line, and he was really good with that.
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  Speaker 3: So a good question, very quick point, very quick point,
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  Speaker 3: is you see that a lot with wide receivers I
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  Speaker 3: remember being at the Combine years and years ago when
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  Speaker 3: Anquan Bolden ran a four seven to two, and there
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  Speaker 3: was an audible sigh in the in the Dome in Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 3: as if, oh my god, this guy can't play in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL. And he's a borderline Hall of Famer, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so you see that a lot with certain
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  Speaker 3: kinds of guys.
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  Speaker 5: So thanks, everybody, enjoy we get Thanks guy, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Take care, good night,