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Mark Epstein Has His Doubts About The Official Narrative Surrounding His Brothers Demise · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  Speaker 1: According to Jeffrey Epstein's brother, Mark Epstein, well, Epstein didn't
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  Speaker 1: kill himself. Mark Epstein believes that Jeffrey Epstein did not
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  Speaker 1: commit suicide while he was in jail and he says
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  Speaker 1: that the evidence, or lack thereof, that's been provided to
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  Speaker 1: him by the federal government backs it up. Now look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened in that jail cell. What
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  Speaker 1: I do know is that the official narrative that we've
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  Speaker 1: all been pitched, the official narrative that they've served us up,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to me to be very logical. And when
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  Speaker 1: you look at all of the issues that surround Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's death inside the lockup, I don't know how anyone
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  Speaker 1: could be confident with the official narrative that we've all
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  Speaker 1: been pitched. Because from where I'm sitting, it's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of BS. And the whole entire OIG report, what did
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  Speaker 1: it really tell us? We went through it, line by line,
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  Speaker 1: Was there anything in there that said to you, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here's that smoking gun we've all been looking for? Because
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  Speaker 1: when I read the OIG report, all I saw was
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of narrative building and reliance on what Bill
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  Speaker 1: Barr had to tell us. And I don't know about
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  Speaker 1: you folks, but I'm not really in the business of
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  Speaker 1: believing what Bill Barr has to say. So let's dive
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  Speaker 1: into this article from the New York Post and let's
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  Speaker 1: see what Jeffrey Epstein's brother Mark has to say. Headline,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's brother lists the evidence he claims feds are
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  Speaker 1: covering up about pedophile's death. This article was authored by
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  Speaker 1: Andy Tillett. Despite being the most high-profile prisoner in the U.S.,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in federal custody at the
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan Correction Center in New York on August 10, 2019.
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  Speaker 1: The financier, pedophile, waiting trial on charges of sex-trafficking underage
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  Speaker 1: girls was found in his cell just after 6.30 a.m.,
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  Speaker 1: having apparently used a length of orange bed sheet tied
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  Speaker 1: to the cell's bunk bed to hang himself. Uh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, if you want to buy that shit. Have
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  Speaker 1: you seen the pictures? Hang himself is a bit generous.
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  Speaker 1: You mean tie it around his throat and lean forward, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because that's exactly what he did. If you're believing the narrative,
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  Speaker 1: that's how he killed himself. Throughout the previous night, cameras
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  Speaker 1: in the secure housing unit where Epstein was being held
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  Speaker 1: weren't recording, prison guard slept and Epstein was left without
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  Speaker 1: a cellmate despite prison psychologist's direct orders. I'm sure all
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  Speaker 1: of that was just, you know, coincidence and mistake. None
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  Speaker 1: of it had anything to do with the overarching problem
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  Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein being so connected. Then Attorney General Bill
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  Speaker 1: Barr would later call the situation a perfect storm of screw-ups.
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  Speaker 1: Who got fired for it? Who went to jail for it?
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  Speaker 1: Who was held accountable for it? Oh, that's right, nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Within a week, a medical examiner had ruled the death
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  Speaker 1: a suicide, meaning no further investigation was required. Pretty convenient, no? Eventually,
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  Speaker 1: a 128-page report was produced by the Department of Justice,
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  Speaker 1: which concluded prison staff made errors and blamed long-standing operational
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  Speaker 1: challenges for Epstein's death. Challenges that haven't been addressed, challenges
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  Speaker 1: that haven't been fixed, so like I told you then,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you now. All of that was window-dressing. That
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  Speaker 1: whole entire report was nothing more than narrative building. However,
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  Speaker 1: some have consistently challenged the official version of events, including
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's brother Mark69, who was campaigning for more information to
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  Speaker 1: be made public, including video from the cell block. All
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  Speaker 1: of it should be made public. There's no reason that
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  Speaker 1: any of this stuff should be kept under wraps at
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  Speaker 1: this point. We're not talking about national security here. We're
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  Speaker 1: not talking about somebody who's hiding state secrets about a
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  Speaker 1: new program we're building. This is a man who was
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  Speaker 1: diddling little kids, a man who was trafficking girls and women,
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  Speaker 1: a man who should be exposed fully. And whatever happened
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  Speaker 1: in that jail cell, it happened on our dime. So
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  Speaker 1: the taxpayers should be entitled to see exactly what went down.
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  Speaker 1: I only want to look at facts, but when we
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  Speaker 1: consider the facts available, we get more questions. The property
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  Speaker 1: developer told the Post, There appears to have been no
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  Speaker 1: investigation once it was ruled a suicide. They saw no
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  Speaker 1: reason to dig deeper. It seems like a cover-up. Why
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  Speaker 1: can't I find his pre-hospital care report and why can't
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  Speaker 1: I get the 911 call? And how did 4chan break
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  Speaker 1: the story 38 minutes before it broke on ABC? There's
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  Speaker 1: another question for you. The following is a compilation of
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  Speaker 1: publicly available information about Epstein's death as well as findings
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  Speaker 1: from Mark's four-year investigation. The autopsy. Two medical examiners were
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  Speaker 1: present for Epstein's autopsy, Dr. Kristen Roman and Dr. Michael Bodden.
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  Speaker 1: The latter was sent by Mark to independently oversee the procedure.
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  Speaker 1: They agreed to list the manner of death as pending,
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  Speaker 1: saying further investigation was required. That, however, was overruled a
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  Speaker 1: week later by New York Chief Medical Examiner Barbara Sampson,
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  Speaker 1: who changed it to suicide. Sampson said she had seen
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  Speaker 1: additional evidence, but has never said what that evidence was.
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  Speaker 1: So again, you want to just believe the state? You
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  Speaker 1: want to believe what she has to say? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's fine and well, but I'm a trust but verify
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  Speaker 1: kind of guy, especially in a situation such as this.
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  Speaker 1: If you have other evidence that you've seen, other evidence
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  Speaker 1: that says for sure it's a suicide, let us see it.
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  Speaker 1: You want to kill all this nonsense? You want to
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  Speaker 1: kill the Epstein didn't kill himself stuff? Well, here's how
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  Speaker 1: you do it. A little bit of evidence showing us
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  Speaker 1: that you're telling the truth. Bodden said Epstein had two
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  Speaker 1: breaks on each side of his thyroid cartilage near his
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  Speaker 1: Adam's apple and and one above it on the left
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  Speaker 1: side of his hyoid bone, which were extremely unusual in
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  Speaker 1: suicidal hangings, and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation.
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  Speaker 1: Bodden added, I've not seen in 50 years where that
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  Speaker 1: occurred in a suicidal hanging case. So there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be people out there that are critics of Dr. Michael Bodden,
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  Speaker 1: say that he's a attention seeker, that he's a hound
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  Speaker 1: looking for glory, all that. And you know what? Some
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  Speaker 1: of it's probably true. But does that mean we should
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  Speaker 1: just discount what he had to say? In my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't. And I think that this could all be
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  Speaker 1: cleared up real quick if the state would just do
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  Speaker 1: the right thing and turn everything over. There is no
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  Speaker 1: reason for this information to be hidden. There is no
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  Speaker 1: reason for this not to be transparent. In addition, no
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  Speaker 1: photo was taken of the position of Epstein's body when
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  Speaker 1: he was found, which multiple medical examiners have agreed is
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  Speaker 1: a key piece of evidence to determining exactly how he died.
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  Speaker 1: Autopsy photos show the marks on Epstein's throat from the
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  Speaker 1: ligature were in the middle to lower portion of the
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  Speaker 1: neck and straight, not raised and pointing toward the side
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  Speaker 1: and back of the throat in a way more consistent
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  Speaker 1: with hanging. So this whole thing, from the very beginning,
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  Speaker 1: has been in question as far as I'm concerned. And
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  Speaker 1: the fact that there were so many missteps after Epstein
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  Speaker 1: died here by the jail, the jail staff, the sergeant,
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  Speaker 1: the lieutenant, everybody involved, makes you really, really start scratching
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  Speaker 1: your head and asking yourself, was it all just a
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  Speaker 1: giant screw-up, or is there something else going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's Cell The Department of Justice investigation into Epstein's death
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  Speaker 1: says he was found suspended from the top bunk in
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  Speaker 1: a near-seated position with his buttocks approximately one inch to
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  Speaker 1: one inch and a half off the floor and his
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  Speaker 1: legs in front of him. This means that most of
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  Speaker 1: his body weight was hanging on the ligature around his neck.
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  Speaker 1: The guard who found him, Michael Thomas, claimed both that
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  Speaker 1: he ripped the sheet and that he cut it, then
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  Speaker 1: began chest compressions until prison medics arrived. Two nooses were
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  Speaker 1: found in the cell, according to CBS show 60 Minutes.
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  Speaker 1: All of it's funky. Every last bit of this is funky.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that we still don't know what happened
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  Speaker 1: in that cell all these years later is unacceptable. The
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  Speaker 1: noose taken in as evidence was not the one that
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  Speaker 1: the prison guard ripped or cut to free from Epstein's body.
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  Speaker 1: The submitted and photographed noose was a whole piece of
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  Speaker 1: cloth with hemmed edges and no staining or fluids, despite
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  Speaker 1: allegedly being around Epstein's neck when he died. In photos
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  Speaker 1: of Epstein's cell, his sleep apnea machine can be seen,
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  Speaker 1: which Mark points out, has an electrical cord that would
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  Speaker 1: have been easier to use to hang himself than a sheet.
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  Speaker 1: I said that at the beginning too. If you're going
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  Speaker 1: to hang yourself, why not use an electrical cord? Seems
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  Speaker 1: like the better option. EMTs who attended the scene were
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  Speaker 1: not interviewed, which is standard protocol in such cases. Especially
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  Speaker 1: in high-profile cases, EMTs and hospital staff are interviewed by police,
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  Speaker 1: but in this case, none were. In addition, pre-hospital care
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  Speaker 1: report for Epstein can't be found, according to hospital staff.
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  Speaker 1: All just a coincidence, at least according to the government.
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  Speaker 1: The autopsy showed Epstein was dead for at least two
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  Speaker 1: hours before he was found, and possibly up to six hours. However,
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  Speaker 1: despite clearly being deceased, he was transferred to a hospital
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  Speaker 1: and placed in a hospital gown on a gurney. So
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  Speaker 1: why would you do that? The man's been dead for
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  Speaker 1: up to six hours. You know that he's been dead,
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  Speaker 1: but you're going to put him on a gurney and
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  Speaker 1: put him in a hospital gown? What are you trying
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  Speaker 1: to do? Have a little weekend at Bernie's party with
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  Speaker 1: your boy Jeffrey? The whole thing is absurd and disgusting. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: the 911 call made from the prison and its content
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  Speaker 1: has also never been released. On July 23rd, while Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was in jail, guards were called to the cell he
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  Speaker 1: shared with former cop and now convicted killer of four,
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas Tartaglione, due to an incident where he had sustained
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  Speaker 1: neck injuries. Following the incident, Epstein told prison staff he
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  Speaker 1: had been attacked by a cellmate. He later said he
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  Speaker 1: did not remember how he got the injuries and he
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  Speaker 1: refused to speak further about it. After the incident on
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  Speaker 1: July 30th, the prison psychology department said Epstein must have
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  Speaker 1: a cellmate at all times and was to be monitored.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the key things that happened in
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  Speaker 1: that cell. The fact that he was even in a
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  Speaker 1: cell with Tartaglione in the first place. He should have
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  Speaker 1: never been in that cell with Tartaglione and questions need
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  Speaker 1: to be answered why a man who was facing four homicides,
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  Speaker 1: was put into a cell with one of the most
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  Speaker 1: high-profile prisoners in the whole country. Shouldn't Jeffrey Epstein be
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  Speaker 1: put in the cell with a snitch? Why are you
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  Speaker 1: putting him in the cell with Nicholas Tartaglione? And then,
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  Speaker 1: when Epstein says Tartaglione attacked him, they're going to act
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  Speaker 1: like it didn't happen? Oh, but we lost the video
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  Speaker 1: of the cell that day. We have no idea. We're
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  Speaker 1: just going to believe Nicholas Tartaglione. Sounds like narrative building
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  Speaker 1: to me. And look, I am more than willing to
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  Speaker 1: believe The new cellmate, Efren Stone Reyes, was assigned but
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  Speaker 1: transferred out of MCC to another facility less than 24
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  Speaker 1: hours before Epstein's death. Reyes told his family Epstein seemed
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  Speaker 1: depressed and didn't want to live anymore, according to the
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  Speaker 1: New York Daily News, who also quoted other inmates who
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  Speaker 1: said Epstein was saying he's going to kill himself because
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  Speaker 1: the government is trying to kill him anyway. And I've
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  Speaker 1: said it once and I'll say it again. Was Tartaglione
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  Speaker 1: put in that cell with Epstein to pass on a message? Look, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen to you unless you
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  Speaker 1: do it to yourself. Again, that's just speculation. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know for sure. Nobody does. But Nicholas Tartaglione at this point,
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  Speaker 1: and my guess is Tat-Tat, as they used to call
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  Speaker 1: him in the old neighborhood, has no desire to talk
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  Speaker 1: about what happened in that jail cell. Video evidence from
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  Speaker 1: the night of Epstein's death was limited. According to the
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  Speaker 1: Department of Justice investigation, recorded video evidence for August 9th
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  Speaker 1: and 10th for the shoe area where Epstein was housed
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  Speaker 1: was only available from one prison security camera due to
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  Speaker 1: a malfunction of MCC, New York's digital video recorder system.
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  Speaker 1: all that money that's being paid in taxes, and the
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  Speaker 1: cameras don't even work? However, it also notes between approximately 10.40pm
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  Speaker 1: on August 9th and 6.30am on August 10th, no one
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  Speaker 1: was seen entering Epstein's cell tier from the shoe common area.
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  Speaker 1: Despite Freedom of Information Act's request being filed, the footage
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  Speaker 1: from the working camera, particularly showing when Epstein's body was
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  Speaker 1: removed from the tier in the morning, has never been
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  Speaker 1: released to the public. And they say it's an ongoing investigation. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. That's what they say to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: they don't have to turn the goods over to the public.
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  Speaker 1: The Sleeping Guards Prison guards Tova Noel and Michael Thomas
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  Speaker 1: were stationed 15 feet from Epstein's cell. However, they fell
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  Speaker 1: asleep and did not check on prisoners in the secure
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  Speaker 1: housing unit at all on August 9th, the night that
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  Speaker 1: Epstein died. They later admitted to falsifying records, which they
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  Speaker 1: said had completed the checks. Both were federally indicted, but
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  Speaker 1: struck a deal whereby, in exchange for admitting their guilt
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  Speaker 1: and cooperating with a federal probe into Epstein's death, the
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  Speaker 1: charges were dropped, so nobody was held accountable. There was
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  Speaker 1: nobody that was brought up and put in jail, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So why would anyone do anything different the next time around?
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  Speaker 1: And what's the point of having that OIG report if
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  Speaker 1: the issues aren't going to be addressed? Neither has ever
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  Speaker 1: spoken publicly about what happened that night or with Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: The indictment against the officers also lists the presence of
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  Speaker 1: two other prison guards, Officer 1 and Officer 2, who
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  Speaker 1: were also on duty during at least part of their
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  Speaker 1: shift and were supposed to accompany Noel on her rounds.
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  Speaker 1: Their identities have never been released. Mark says he has
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  Speaker 1: nothing to gain from his brother's death. He was not
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  Speaker 1: part of the will and has incurred legal fees and
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  Speaker 1: had to spend money to protect his family since 2019.
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  Speaker 1: They had a hearing which was coming up a few
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  Speaker 1: days after his death to appeal the bail restrictions. Why
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  Speaker 1: would Jeffrey kill himself a few days before the hearing?
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  Speaker 1: Because if he got bail, he'd be out of jail,
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  Speaker 1: a waiting child in his house with an ankle monitor,
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  Speaker 1: he told investigative journalist Declan Hill on his Crime Wave podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Why kill yourself then? If bail was denied again, then
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  Speaker 1: I could understand it. Believe me, it would have been
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  Speaker 1: easier if the pathologist had come out and said it
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  Speaker 1: looks like a suicide. Then I could put the whole
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  Speaker 1: issue behind me, he added. And for me, there needs
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  Speaker 1: to be some transparency here. They need to really release
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  Speaker 1: all the information they have, any video, all of it.
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  Speaker 1: That way people can get a good look for themselves
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  Speaker 1: and then decide if they think that Epstein killed himself
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  Speaker 1: or if Jeffrey Epstein was killed. But without all of
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  Speaker 1: the evidence, without all of the context, the questions surrounding
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's death will continue to hang in the air.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
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