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Rich DeMuro, Host of ‘Rich on Tech’ Interview · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro, our tech expert here at WOR, I need
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  Speaker 1: a favor from you. You may have to do an intervention.
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  Speaker 1: There's information that 50% of U.S. adults use AI chatbots. 48%
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  Speaker 1: have conversations with AI chatbots not about work. And our
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  Speaker 1: own Larry Menti is engaged with chatbots trying to convince
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  Speaker 1: them that the people protesting about AI data filing centers
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  Speaker 1: in their neighborhoods are justified. Can you do an intervention with.
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  Speaker 2: Larry, please?
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on. This is fake news, Rich. These weren't.
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  Speaker 3: These weren't chatbots. That's just him thinking that. These are
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  Speaker 3: actual people that are upset with me because I was
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  Speaker 3: saying that there's a middle ground on these AI data centers.
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  Speaker 3: You can talk about the chatbots. Let's talk about the
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  Speaker 3: AI data centers afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: A middle ground? I didn't think there was a middle
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  Speaker 2: ground anywhere anymore. I thought it had to be one
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  Speaker 2: way or the other for everything, including data centers.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right. The people I talked to yesterday
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  Speaker 3: feel the way you do. That's for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, look, these chatbots, we are asking so
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  Speaker 2: many questions of the chatbots. I'll be honest, I'm running
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  Speaker 2: almost any decision I make through a chatbot. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not because I overwhelmingly trust it with everything. I think
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  Speaker 2: there's two levels of this. Number one, there's romance and relationships.
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  Speaker 2: People are asking for advice and they're trying to learn
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  Speaker 2: more about themselves and their friends and their loved ones.
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  Speaker 2: That's number one. Number two is offloading a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of the tiny decisions we have to make on a
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  Speaker 2: daily basis. Like, you know, which hotel do I stay at?
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  Speaker 2: Give me an itinerary for this place. I'm traveling. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think is better time to go? You know,
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  Speaker 2: like those kinds of questions. So I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: necessarily bad. I think where it gets kind of weird
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  Speaker 2: is when people are developing a relationship and Larry, you're
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  Speaker 2: not there just yet, are you?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if they were chat bots. That's
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  Speaker 3: just Curtis assuming they were because We were talking about
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  Speaker 3: AI data centers. We've been talking about this for a long,
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  Speaker 3: long time, actually. And we're getting blowback from a whole
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  Speaker 3: number of people that think it's all Russian propaganda. That
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  Speaker 3: the fact that there's anybody that doesn't want these AI
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  Speaker 3: data centers in their communities or springing up all across
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  Speaker 3: the country, that that is all Russian propaganda. And what
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  Speaker 3: I've been saying, Rich, just so you know, is I said, look,
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  Speaker 3: we were on to this for several months, almost six
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  Speaker 3: months we've been talking about this. before a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people were talking about it, because we watch the town
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  Speaker 3: hall meetings and we watch the city council meetings. But
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  Speaker 3: it's funny, Rich, and I'm sure you're dealing with this too,
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  Speaker 3: is that there's two distinct sides and nobody's willing to
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  Speaker 3: come up with a solution.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and here's what's going to happen. If we don't
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  Speaker 2: allow any of these data centers, and obviously they need
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  Speaker 2: to be regulated, they need to be in places where
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  Speaker 2: they are benefiting the communities that they're putting them in.
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  Speaker 2: They need to create jobs. They need to not take
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  Speaker 2: power away from the people in the immediate area and
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  Speaker 2: make sure water is still available. But the reality is,
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  Speaker 2: if we don't build these things, we will fall behind.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not a joke. We need to be able
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  Speaker 2: to compute with AI. It takes a lot. And we
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  Speaker 2: just don't have the resources. And so if we don't
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  Speaker 2: do this, other people will do it, like China, like
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  Speaker 2: other countries, that will open source these models that they're
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  Speaker 2: coming up with, and there goes all the money that
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  Speaker 2: the U.S. people have invested in these major companies because
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  Speaker 2: they thought it was going to work out.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you a thousand percent, and you basically
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  Speaker 3: said many of the things that I've been saying to people,
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  Speaker 3: but there's two distinct sides, and they don't see a
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  Speaker 3: middle ground. I don't want to spend all the time
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  Speaker 3: on this. You have other things to talk about. We
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  Speaker 3: can talk about it another time, but yeah, it is
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  Speaker 3: the issue, and it's going to be a big issue
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  Speaker 3: in the midterms coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure. And look, I think that a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people are latching onto it because of that.
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  Speaker 2: So anytime you get a hot topic issue that people
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  Speaker 2: are very invested in one side or the other, it
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  Speaker 2: becomes the only thing to talk about, whether people really
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  Speaker 2: have an opinion on it or they really know what
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about or not.
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  Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro, let me do a pivot and shift. We
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  Speaker 1: have a Gen Z-er amongst us. He is the Quiet Storm, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: our producer in studio while Natalie is recovering from knee
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  Speaker 1: surgery at home. She's participating. But Chris is one who
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  Speaker 1: would jump at any offer of a party invitation that
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  Speaker 1: comes online. He's like Spuds McKenzie. You invite him to
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  Speaker 1: a party, he's there with his PlayStation. I mean, he's going.
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  Speaker 1: Could you warn him and the other Gen Zers that
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of fake invites out there? And
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  Speaker 1: why are they doing that?
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  Speaker 2: This one is, this is like the scam that will
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  Speaker 2: not die. This has been going on for a while now,
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  Speaker 2: but I continue to get these personally on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 2: My wife got one yesterday. She emailed me. She said,
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  Speaker 2: are you sure? I know this person. I said, it's fake.
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  Speaker 2: And what's happening is these scammers are hijacking people's email addresses. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you have a weak password and a
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  Speaker 2: weak login, scammers get access to your account. What do
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  Speaker 2: they do? they immediately use it to their advantage. So
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  Speaker 2: they send out these invitations or anything else from your email.
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  Speaker 2: So it looks like it came from a trusted friend
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  Speaker 2: and it's either an Evite or a paperless post or
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  Speaker 2: a punch bowl or any other of a thousand different
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  Speaker 2: party invites. And it says, Hey, you know, you're cordially
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  Speaker 2: invited to my party invitation, whatever it is. And it says,
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  Speaker 2: click here to learn the details. And you're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I know this person. Let me click. Well, you click there.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to download something on your computer that, It's
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  Speaker 2: going to put malware on there. It might put remote
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  Speaker 2: access software. Don't do it. I've had so many people
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  Speaker 2: email me saying, Rich, I fell for this. I did it.
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  Speaker 2: It took me all week to get my computer back
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  Speaker 2: to normal. I got one of those.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Rich.
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  Speaker 1: Did you click?
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  Speaker 2: No, I did not because it was a lunch invitation
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  Speaker 2: from a friend. I'm like, she would not be sending
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  Speaker 2: me a lunch invitation. So I sent her a text.
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  Speaker 3: I said, did you want to go out with the
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  Speaker 3: lunch with me?
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  Speaker 2: She's like, what? I got this e-bike. I don't even know. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: She had no idea. She's like, oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Natalie, did she ask you if you were paying
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  Speaker 1: for the lunch?
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  Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, if you pay, where are we going?
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing, Rich. You were always working. I see you
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  Speaker 3: were at a restaurant show. I know you go to
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  Speaker 3: these tech shows all the time, but you went to
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  Speaker 3: the restaurant show because there's some advances in tech at
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  Speaker 3: the restaurants?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean, restaurants, huge, you know, adopters
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  Speaker 2: of technology because everyone I talk to says that, and
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  Speaker 2: this is wild to me to understand this, but they
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  Speaker 2: all say, every single person I talk to at any
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  Speaker 2: restaurant show says there's not a lot of people that
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  Speaker 2: want to work. It's tough to find people to make
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  Speaker 2: the pizzas, to make the food, to serve the food,
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  Speaker 2: which I still can't believe you would think there'd be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, unlimited amounts of people to do this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But they are turning to technology to try to fill
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  Speaker 2: some of those gaps and obviously automate some things. I
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  Speaker 2: saw a pizza oven that can make up to 200
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  Speaker 2: pizzas in an hour thanks to a robot that stretches
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  Speaker 2: the dough. I also saw, and I thought this was
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  Speaker 2: probably the best thing that I saw. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: really solves a problem. You know how you go to
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  Speaker 2: a restaurant, you're on the patio, and it's got those
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  Speaker 2: space heaters. You know, they have to move around. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a little cold. I'm a little hot. It's such a
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  Speaker 2: pain for everyone involved, right? You've got to flag someone down.
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  Speaker 2: The guy doesn't want to do it. They light it
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  Speaker 2: for an hour. So this company called Focal, it's a
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco startup. They put in basically the idea of
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  Speaker 2: almost like hanging lights, it looks like. But each one
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  Speaker 2: is a tiny mini heater that's directed at each individual seat.
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  Speaker 2: And you, from your seat, can turn it on, turn
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  Speaker 2: it off, and adjust the level. So if you're sitting
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  Speaker 2: with one other person, they want it hot, you want
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  Speaker 2: it cold, you can have it that way. And nobody
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  Speaker 2: has to move anything around. I thought that was brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: I think every restaurant is going to have that in
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  Speaker 2: the future.
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  Speaker 1: Love that. Genius.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro.
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  Speaker 3: Can I have that in my hand? Rich on Tech
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  Speaker 3: is heard Sunday nights from 8 to 11 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: On WOR.
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  Speaker 3: At Rich on Tech on Instagram is how you can
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  Speaker 3: reach out to him. Rich, thanks so much.
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  Speaker 2: Larry, stay off those chatbots, please.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Larry, stay off those chats.