Latest / Ron Verb / The Ron Verb Show - Full Broadcast from Tuesday, 09/29/26
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Howdy ho, NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
- 0:09Speaker 3: Welcome.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. What a gorgeous day. Incidentally, it is outside.
- 0:13Speaker 2: I mean, it is just perfect today. I don't know
- 0:17Speaker 2: what you're doing, but I hope you get a chance
- 0:18Speaker 2: to get outside and enjoy some of it. Days are
- 0:21Speaker 2: getting shorter, that's for sure. It's dark much earlier, which
- 0:24Speaker 2: you would expect this time of the year. But if
- 0:26Speaker 2: you get a chance to get outside and enjoy this
- 0:28Speaker 2: great weather, you should do so. We're almost at the
- 0:30Speaker 2: end of September already, if you can imagine that. So
- 0:33Speaker 2: it won't be too long before the leaves start to
- 0:36Speaker 2: change more and by about the end of October, right?
- 0:39Speaker 2: So another decent month we can all hope for here. Anyway,
- 0:43Speaker 2: good afternoon.
- 0:44Speaker 4: 330-729-9977.
- 0:44Speaker 5: 330-729-9977.
- 0:50Speaker 2: So, I don't know, do you believe the polls or not?
- 0:53Speaker 2: Do you? I mean, if you believe them, Amy Acton
- 0:56Speaker 2: seems to be doing pretty good as far as her
- 0:59Speaker 2: lead for governor in the state of Ohio over Ramaswamy.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Whether it's five or six points, seems like Amy Acton, well,
- 1:09Speaker 2: we can say this much. According to the polls, Amy
- 1:11Speaker 2: Acton is the frontrunner over the Republican. Now, keep this
- 1:15Speaker 2: in mind for just a second. Supposedly, they say this
- 1:19Speaker 2: is a red state. this is a red state or
- 1:23Speaker 2: so they say. And isn't it interesting that the polling
- 1:28Speaker 2: says Amy Acton is the front runner in a race
- 1:35Speaker 2: for governor in this so-called red state that she's leading it.
- 1:39Speaker 2: And what's interesting about it is Amy Acton. She refuses
- 1:43Speaker 2: to debate Ramaswamy. I mean, there's, There's some criticisms you
- 1:48Speaker 2: can have of Amy Acton. As I said numerous times,
- 1:51Speaker 2: she quit when she was the state's doctor during COVID.
- 1:55Speaker 2: She couldn't take it, whether it's a criticism or whatever.
- 1:58Speaker 2: She quit. She left. She hightailed it out of there.
- 2:04Speaker 2: And that's when she was the doctor during COVID. Well,
- 2:08Speaker 2: I would say being governor is going to be under
- 2:10Speaker 2: a lot bigger microscope, a lot more criticism. Will you
- 2:15Speaker 2: be able to take that criticism and take that pressure?
- 2:18Speaker 2: Because you did leave during a critical time in the
- 2:21Speaker 2: state of Ohio your position. I mean, that's one criticism.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Second criticism I would say is, I don't get this.
- 2:30Speaker 2: You won't debate your Republican opponents? And I would say
- 2:35Speaker 2: the same thing if Ramaswamy wouldn't debate Amy Acton. For
- 2:38Speaker 2: the voters of the community, don't you think it'd be
- 2:41Speaker 2: a good thing to do a debate?
- 2:42Speaker 3: Yes.
- 2:43Speaker 2: I mean, both of you want to be governor. I mean,
- 2:46Speaker 2: Ramaswamy says he's open to the debate, that he'd love
- 2:49Speaker 2: to debate Amy Acton, but apparently she's not. Now, what's
- 2:53Speaker 2: up with that? I mean, those are two pretty big negatives.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Won't debate her opponent. And I tailed it out when
- 3:02Speaker 2: she was doctor of the state. Those are two pretty
- 3:06Speaker 2: big negatives, I think. But despite those two negatives, the
- 3:10Speaker 2: polling says she is the frontrunner. By a pretty substantial lead,
- 3:15Speaker 2: Amy Acton, which is interesting in this so-called red state,
- 3:17Speaker 2: isn't it? So what else does the polls tell us?
- 3:21Speaker 2: The polls also tell us that Sherrod Brown is leading
- 3:28Speaker 2: the Senate race in this so-called red state. Sherrod Brown
- 3:32Speaker 2: is leading this Senate race over John Husted. Now, wait
- 3:38Speaker 2: a minute. I thought Ohio was a red state. I
- 3:40Speaker 2: thought we were a conservative state. Republicans are in charge
- 3:43Speaker 2: of everything. And that's true. But all of a sudden,
- 3:50Speaker 2: I don't know, things seem to be changing, don't they?
- 3:53Speaker 2: I mean, like I say, if you believe the polls,
- 3:56Speaker 2: let's just accept it for now and say, okay, might
- 4:00Speaker 2: be true. Might be true. Now, let's just say if
- 4:06Speaker 2: that's true, if it's true in the state of Ohio
- 4:09Speaker 2: that Amy Acton is a frontrunner for governor and Sherrod
- 4:12Speaker 2: Brown is leading by even more over John Husted, both
- 4:15Speaker 2: of them are Democrats over Husted, the Republican, Ramaswamy, the Republican,
- 4:20Speaker 2: why do you suspect that is? Let's just accept that
- 4:25Speaker 2: that would be accurate. Why do you think you have
- 4:28Speaker 2: two Democrats for these top two offices in the state
- 4:31Speaker 2: of Ohio leading and winning? in those races. Comment, please.
- 4:40Speaker 4: 330-729-9977.
- 4:40Speaker 2: 330-729-9977. Of course, you got people in the power structure
- 4:46Speaker 2: now saying we should take the state tax off of
- 4:51Speaker 2: your gasoline and diesel fuel to try to ease the
- 4:53Speaker 2: burden for a little bit. We shall see if that happens.
- 4:58Speaker 2: What do they say the state taxes? It's like 30
- 5:00Speaker 2: cents or 39 cents. I'll have to check on that
- 5:02Speaker 2: per gallon that they want to take off for a
- 5:05Speaker 2: period of time because gas prices are so high seems
- 5:10Speaker 2: like a good idea doesn't it yes no how do
- 5:15Speaker 2: you replace that money well I guess you don't I
- 5:19Speaker 2: guess you don't you just take a hit so your
- 5:22Speaker 2: thoughts welcome here this afternoon you're on the air hello
- 5:28Speaker 2: are you there maybe not you're on the air.
- 5:34Speaker 6: Mr.
- 5:34Speaker 7: Verb, how are you?
- 5:35Speaker 2: I'm well.
- 5:37Speaker 8: Well, here's my overview of this madness. First of all,
- 5:43Speaker 8: Amy Atkins, after watching her performance when she was in
- 5:51Speaker 8: her last state position, she was absolutely horrendous. Anybody that
- 5:57Speaker 8: can vote for her, I'm having a serious problem with.
- 6:02Speaker 7: She was.
- 6:04Speaker 8: Absolutely terrible as a, in her last position. And, and
- 6:12Speaker 8: that's being kind to the young lady. But the bottom
- 6:15Speaker 8: line is that Sherrod Brown lost the last time he
- 6:20Speaker 8: ran in the state of Ohio. These are the same
- 6:23Speaker 8: voters that were around when Sherrod lost before. He was
- 6:28Speaker 8: absolutely horrendous as a Senator.
- 6:32Speaker 7: Bad, terrible.
- 6:34Speaker 8: And if you don't remember his performance, shame on you.
- 6:39Speaker 8: If you're willing to put him back in office after
- 6:42Speaker 8: his last performance, shame on you. You have no idea
- 6:46Speaker 8: what's going on politically in your state. Sherrod Brown, terrible.
- 6:51Speaker 8: Amy Atkins, terrible. Now, here's the problem. Ramaswamy is losing
- 6:56Speaker 8: not because he's not qualified, not because he's not the
- 7:00Speaker 8: better candidate, not because he's the smartest candidate, but because
- 7:04Speaker 8: of his last name. People apparently don't like Vivek, and
- 7:10Speaker 8: they don't want to vote for him because he's not
- 7:12Speaker 8: an American, you know. I've had this conversation with several people,
- 7:17Speaker 8: and some of them that I have discussed this with
- 7:20Speaker 8: shocked me that.
- 7:22Speaker 9: They were that smart.
- 7:24Speaker 8: Narrow-minded. And Atkins, this is an anti-Trump vote, if you
- 7:32Speaker 8: want to know the truth, anti-Republican vote. Now, you've been
- 7:36Speaker 8: around long enough and I've been around long enough to
- 7:39Speaker 8: know that you only get what you pay for. The Democrats,
- 7:43Speaker 8: when in office run, were absolutely horrendous, horrendous Taxes are
- 7:50Speaker 8: off the scale. Anytime a Democrat gets into public office,
- 7:54Speaker 8: the first thing they want to do is raise your
- 7:56Speaker 8: taxes and give money to people that don't work. Sorry,
- 7:59Speaker 8: that doesn't work. It's never worked, and it never will work.
- 8:06Speaker 7: So.
- 8:07Speaker 8: Those of you that don't like Donald Trump because you
- 8:10Speaker 8: feel that he is overbearing, kind of a bully, just
- 8:15Speaker 8: remember one thing.
- 8:16Speaker 9: You have to.
- 8:17Speaker 8: Look at, and the thing that bothers me is that
- 8:20Speaker 8: the people that call this show, not all of them certainly,
- 8:23Speaker 8: because you don't paint with a broad brush, but the
- 8:26Speaker 8: bottom line is they never listen to anything or anyone
- 8:29Speaker 8: beside the Democrat talking points. And this is how we're
- 8:33Speaker 8: getting to where we're at. And Ramaswamy is the wrong
- 8:39Speaker 8: color and the wrong last name for many people in
- 8:43Speaker 8: this state to vote for. And I'm ashamed to say it,
- 8:46Speaker 8: but it's clearly evident to me that that's true. So
- 8:51Speaker 8: you may end up getting the worst of both sides
- 8:56Speaker 8: of the aisle. Amy Atkins, who's an absolutely a terrible candidate.
- 9:01Speaker 8: And then of course, The proven product, Sherrod Brown, who
- 9:05Speaker 8: was around since Moby Dick was a minnow, this guy
- 9:08Speaker 8: didn't do anything when he was there. How many years
- 9:10Speaker 8: was he in office, Ron?
- 9:11Speaker 10: Do you know the number?
- 9:13Speaker 2: It seems like forever to me.
- 9:15Speaker 6: Well, exactly.
- 9:17Speaker 8: He was a parasite on humanity. Took some money and
- 9:24Speaker 8: ran and, of course, voted solid Democrat, whether it was
- 9:27Speaker 8: the right thing to do or not. Voted solid Democrat.
- 9:32Speaker 8: things turned around in this state when it went back
- 9:36Speaker 8: to being a Republican state. Now, you may not, and
- 9:40Speaker 8: this is a vote, by the way, not against either
- 9:42Speaker 8: of these two candidates, but against Donald Trump.
- 9:44Speaker 7: The media, shame on them.
- 9:47Speaker 8: The media has managed to crash Donald Trump to the
- 9:52Speaker 8: point where he's got a lot of weak-minded people believing them. Now,
- 9:56Speaker 8: let me explain something to you, listening audience of Ron Verb.
- 10:00Speaker 8: Let me tell you tomorrow's news today. The same thing
- 10:04Speaker 8: happened back in 31, 29, 30, 31 in a place
- 10:09Speaker 8: called Germany. I happened to work there for two years.
- 10:12Speaker 8: I'm going to tell you, folks, it's easy to brainwash
- 10:16Speaker 8: a people And you are being brainwashed because you don't
- 10:21Speaker 8: do your homework.
- 10:22Speaker 4: You don't really.
- 10:24Speaker 8: Look at how the economy and many aspects of the
- 10:27Speaker 8: economy are solid as a rock. Gas is a little high.
- 10:30Speaker 8: I bought gas yesterday, four bucks a gallon.
- 10:32Speaker 4: You know what, Ron?
- 10:33Speaker 8: Didn't hurt me a bit. I bought gas at four
- 10:36Speaker 8: bucks a gallon because that's what gas costs now. There
- 10:39Speaker 8: is no free lunch, listening audience of Ron Verb. No
- 10:43Speaker 8: free lunch. If we've got a free lunch, Democratic America,
- 10:48Speaker 8: it's because we have to work at it. And we
- 10:52Speaker 8: all have to work at it. We all have to
- 10:54Speaker 8: sacrifice to make it better. But one of the things
- 10:57Speaker 8: we all have to start doing, Ron, is educating ourselves,
- 11:01Speaker 8: understanding what is going on in your country. I mean,
- 11:06Speaker 8: you and I, back when Sherrod Brown lost, and I
- 11:10Speaker 8: remember the conversation as if it were today.
- 11:13Speaker 7: The guy did nothing. From the last 10.
- 11:17Speaker 8: Years he was in office, but milk the cow. He
- 11:20Speaker 8: voted with the Democrats 99% of the time, voted for
- 11:24Speaker 8: boondoggles that would make the Soviet Union and Red China smile.
- 11:30Speaker 8: And people just kind of sit back.
- 11:33Speaker 11: Oh, well, you know, no, I don't know.
- 11:36Speaker 8: Working at democracy is not, it's messy folks. It's really messy. And,
- 11:41Speaker 8: but you've got to get down in there, get dirty
- 11:44Speaker 8: and get the job done.
- 11:46Speaker 7: And you have to be willing.
- 11:47Speaker 8: To do more than list. How can anyone, how can
- 11:51Speaker 8: anyone listen to Amy Atkins and think she isn't, she
- 11:54Speaker 8: isn't a female version of our past president. You know,
- 11:58Speaker 8: the guy that was there before Donald J. Trump, him,
- 12:01Speaker 8: Joseph Robinette Biden. He he she's Joseph Robinette Biden in
- 12:07Speaker 8: a dress.
- 12:08Speaker 9: I'm sorry.
- 12:08Speaker 8: I hate to sound like a male chauvinist pig today.
- 12:11Speaker 8: But the bottom line is America's got to get its
- 12:14Speaker 8: head out of its collective butt and start paying attention
- 12:17Speaker 8: to really what's going on in this country and voting
- 12:20Speaker 8: against Donald Trump is voting against. Voting for Amy Atkins
- 12:25Speaker 8: and Sherrod Brown because you don't like Donald Trump's haircut
- 12:29Speaker 8: is insanity. And you must look at what the man
- 12:32Speaker 8: has done overall since he's been in public office and
- 12:37Speaker 8: in industry, by the way, Ron. Do I sound like
- 12:39Speaker 8: I'm going to have a stroke any second, Ron?
- 12:41Speaker 2: I think you're on the verge of it. Yeah, I
- 12:43Speaker 2: was just getting heart monitors available, just in case you did.
- 12:47Speaker 2: I was getting some baby aspirin and everything, making sure
- 12:49Speaker 2: I had it standing by. But needless to say, after
- 12:53Speaker 2: I listened to all of that, it doesn't– still, you
- 12:57Speaker 2: look at Amy Acton. Sherrod Brown's way ahead over John Husted.
- 13:01Speaker 2: I mean, he's way ahead. Amy Acton's got, what, five,
- 13:04Speaker 2: six-point lead? She's got a pretty significant lead.
- 13:06Speaker 7: Yeah. How?
- 13:08Speaker 4: How is that possible?
- 13:09Speaker 2: Supposedly a red state, they say. It's supposedly a red state.
- 13:13Speaker 2: I don't know. We will find out from others. I
- 13:16Speaker 2: think you made it. Thank you, Bob. Appreciate your insight,
- 13:19Speaker 2: as always. NewsRadio 570 WQEN, you're on the air.
- 13:24Speaker 10: Hey there, this is Pete. How are you doing?
- 13:25Speaker 2: Good, go ahead.
- 13:27Speaker 10: Hey, this is going to be tough. It's going to
- 13:31Speaker 10: make a tough decision. But every time I see Vic Suwami,
- 13:35Speaker 10: Vic Suwami talk, People will ask him questions. He'll come
- 13:39Speaker 10: out point blank. The question will be, what are you
- 13:41Speaker 10: going to do to help bring lower prices down and
- 13:44Speaker 10: the economy to get it straightened back out? He said, oh, wow,
- 13:48Speaker 10: that's a great question. But then he changed the subject
- 13:52Speaker 10: to law enforcement. He didn't have an answer. He's done
- 13:58Speaker 10: that I don't know how many times. Now, you turn
- 14:01Speaker 10: around and you take a look at Amy Atkins. Her
- 14:05Speaker 10: life was threatened, and her family was threatened. In any way,
- 14:08Speaker 10: she could see her way out of making sure that
- 14:10Speaker 10: everybody was going to be okay. But take a look
- 14:13Speaker 10: at her life, her past life. I think she knows
- 14:16Speaker 10: more about living on the edge than.
- 14:23Speaker 7: Swami does.
- 14:24Speaker 10: Hell, Swami made millions of dollars off the federal government
- 14:28Speaker 10: when he started making all these medical products that never
- 14:32Speaker 10: evolved into anything. Anything. But he's made a ton of money.
- 14:40Speaker 10: Them people there, what you're looking at is Trump. I
- 14:45Speaker 10: made a ton of money, so I know how to
- 14:47Speaker 10: do it. Well, yeah, okay. You know, as a Republican,
- 14:52Speaker 10: that I don't like Trump, period. And when anybody starts
- 14:57Speaker 10: talking in circles like that, I don't understand it. But
- 15:01Speaker 10: you take a look at.
- 15:04Speaker 10: The other ones that are Republicans that are running, okay?
- 15:09Speaker 10: Why did they all bend the knee when Trump wanted
- 15:14Speaker 10: to do the stuff that he did? Why are we
- 15:19Speaker 10: still got the Epstein files and we're not doing anything
- 15:22Speaker 10: about it? Because the conservative Republicans, the rhinos in my
- 15:26Speaker 10: Republican Party, aren't pushing it. And every one of them guys,
- 15:32Speaker 10: those conservative Republicans, may have said, and I have not
- 15:36Speaker 10: heard him say it, yeah, we should go after and
- 15:39Speaker 10: find out what happened on that. That's my key issue.
- 15:42Speaker 10: And everybody is complaining about the high prices. Well, people,
- 15:46Speaker 10: let's back up in history. For some silly reason, what
- 15:50Speaker 10: happened on the tariffs? That's when the prices jumped. And
- 15:54Speaker 10: the gas just added to it. But the prices really
- 15:58Speaker 10: jumped here in the United States when he decided he
- 16:02Speaker 10: had to have tariffs on everybody. You put a tariff
- 16:05Speaker 10: up to protect your companies here in your country. So
- 16:09Speaker 10: that's why there's tariffs. I mean, even if we made
- 16:13Speaker 10: hula hoops and we're sending it out, some countries might
- 16:16Speaker 10: have companies that make hula hoops, so they put a
- 16:19Speaker 10: tariff on. How much is that tariff?
- 16:22Speaker 12: No one knows.
- 16:24Speaker 10: He just said, well, they're doing a tariff. They've got
- 16:26Speaker 10: to make it equal. Oh, that don't work. They cannot
- 16:29Speaker 10: protect their companies. companies, so that their people can work,
- 16:34Speaker 10: so that they can pay taxes to make their country.
- 16:38Speaker 7: Go again.
- 16:40Speaker 10: And here we are doing the same thing. China's laughing
- 16:44Speaker 10: at us. China's sitting back saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, Trump, tariff, tariff, tariff.
- 16:49Speaker 10: When we get done, we will be the economic head,
- 16:54Speaker 10: and we will take it away from you. Because you
- 16:56Speaker 10: want to put tariffs on. And that's exactly what they're doing.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Stand by for one minute. I'll come right back with
- 17:02Speaker 2: you after this.
- 17:03Speaker 12: IHOP Radio.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Mike Rowe here with another WKBN. And we're on 324
- 17:09Speaker 2: in the afternoon. So that's why you say Sherrod Brown
- 17:13Speaker 2: and Amy Acton are ahead in the polls, right?
- 17:16Speaker 7: Well, yeah.
- 17:17Speaker 10: But, you know, are we the– do we believe in
- 17:21Speaker 10: second chances for people?
- 17:25Speaker 2: Well, that depends. It depends on the circumstances that are done. Listen,
- 17:33Speaker 2: I think it's odd if you were the state's doctor
- 17:35Speaker 2: during COVID and you can't take the heat and you quit. Well,
- 17:40Speaker 2: do you think there's going to be less heat as
- 17:42Speaker 2: governor of the state? There's going to be more. There's
- 17:46Speaker 2: going to be more criticism, more scrutiny, more heat, and
- 17:48Speaker 2: you couldn't take it as the state's doctor. So second chances, well,
- 17:52Speaker 2: I'm not stupid. I'm saying you left. And now should
- 17:59Speaker 2: it bother me that she doesn't want to debate Vivek? Well,
- 18:03Speaker 2: wait a minute. What's that all about? Why don't you
- 18:05Speaker 2: want to debate the opponents? And I'd have the same
- 18:07Speaker 2: thing if Vivek didn't want to debate her. I mean, granted,
- 18:11Speaker 2: she's the frontrunner, but it's still a pretty close race.
- 18:14Speaker 2: Don't you think for the citizens of Ohio you should
- 18:16Speaker 2: debate each other so that we can watch it and
- 18:19Speaker 2: help have a better informed decision? But she refuses to
- 18:22Speaker 2: do that. So I don't know. Those are some things
- 18:25Speaker 2: that I find deeply troubling and deeply disturbing to me.
- 18:30Speaker 2: I mean, that's just where I'm at on it. And
- 18:34Speaker 2: Sherrod Brown. Sherrod Brown backed every lunatic thing that Joe
- 18:38Speaker 2: Biden stood for. So if you're asking me, do I
- 18:42Speaker 2: want to go back to what are your pronouns? How
- 18:45Speaker 2: do you identify? Do I want to go back to
- 18:47Speaker 2: ripping statues down and whitewashing history? We got to take
- 18:50Speaker 2: these statues down. We can't call it Fort Hood anymore.
- 18:55Speaker 2: If you're white, you're evil and white privilege. We got
- 19:00Speaker 2: to make sure we hire people based on their sexuality
- 19:03Speaker 2: or their skin color, not on their merit. The weird
- 19:06Speaker 2: sexual agenda that they had, the weird energy agenda they had.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Do you think I want to go back to any
- 19:11Speaker 2: of that? Because that's what you get with Sherrod Brown,
- 19:15Speaker 2: a party that hates fossil fuels. I watched him for
- 19:18Speaker 2: 30 years. I mean, Sherrod Brown? I mean, and I
- 19:22Speaker 2: can honestly say to you, from my perspective, I can't
- 19:25Speaker 2: enthusiastically vote for John Husted. I genuinely cannot. There's nothing
- 19:29Speaker 2: about him that excites me to vote for him. But
- 19:32Speaker 2: he is the lesser of two evils to me over
- 19:35Speaker 2: Sherrod Brown. I mean, so I can say that, and
- 19:39Speaker 2: I can say the same thing about Vivek. I can say, okay,
- 19:43Speaker 2: go ahead, and then I'll move along.
- 19:45Speaker 10: All right. The gentleman before you.
- 19:48Speaker 13: And you.
- 19:49Speaker 4: Neither.
- 19:50Speaker 10: One of you are stupid. You have the passion and
- 19:55Speaker 10: in your beliefs of what you think should be done.
- 19:59Speaker 10: You're not stupid for standing up for what you feel.
- 20:02Speaker 10: Don't ever say that again about yourself. I don't think
- 20:05Speaker 10: you're stupid. And the gentleman before, I don't think he's stupid.
- 20:09Speaker 10: He has his reasons for it. He gave a bunch
- 20:12Speaker 10: of them. But God bless him, he's willing to stand.
- 20:15Speaker 9: Up and say it.
- 20:17Speaker 2: There you go.
- 20:18Speaker 10: And a lot of people are going to sit back
- 20:20Speaker 10: and not say nothing.
- 20:22Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
- 20:23Speaker 10: Take a look at the taxes. Our electricity is going up.
- 20:26Speaker 11: Who did that?
- 20:31Speaker 2: Well, I don't agree with that. I can answer that,
- 20:34Speaker 2: but you're not going to like what you hear. As
- 20:37Speaker 2: I said a million times, the Democrats had the war
- 20:39Speaker 2: on coal. That was Kerry, Obama, Clinton, Biden. They were
- 20:44Speaker 2: the ones that not only regulated our coal plants in
- 20:47Speaker 2: this state out of business, they insisted that they be
- 20:49Speaker 2: torn down so that they couldn't be turned back on.
- 20:52Speaker 2: like we're turning back on Three Mile Island. That was
- 20:54Speaker 2: very much the Democrats in their green energy deal that
- 20:57Speaker 2: wanted to wipe out coal. That was their motivation in
- 21:01Speaker 2: doing that. Now, that's a part of why your electric
- 21:03Speaker 2: bill has gone up, and also the demand, because of
- 21:06Speaker 2: AI centers, the demand for electrons has gone up tremendously.
- 21:10Speaker 2: So that also contributes to why your electric bill has
- 21:13Speaker 2: gone up. So I gave you two reasons, but... One
- 21:17Speaker 2: solely rests on the Democrats' thoughts when it comes to energy.
- 21:22Speaker 2: The second one, I think the second one rests on
- 21:25Speaker 2: just not the demand for electricity. It's just going through
- 21:30Speaker 2: the roof. And I agree with Dave Thomas, the Republican,
- 21:34Speaker 2: who says if you're going to build an AI center,
- 21:36Speaker 2: you've got to show us how you can produce your
- 21:38Speaker 2: own electricity and not stick it on a consumer. But
- 21:41Speaker 2: I like your passion, too, and I appreciate your call.
- 21:43Speaker 2: And you have a wonderful day.
- 21:45Speaker 6: And you too, sir.
- 21:46Speaker 9: Thank you.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I mean, he's got passion. 329. And there's nothing wrong
- 21:51Speaker 2: with that. 76 degrees. Because you know what that last
- 21:54Speaker 2: caller could say to me when I hung up on
- 21:56Speaker 2: him just now? You know what he could say to me?
- 22:01Speaker 2: But my candidates are leading in the polls. And you
- 22:05Speaker 2: know what I would say back to him? Well, you're
- 22:08Speaker 2: right about that. I mean, so he's got a pretty
- 22:12Speaker 2: good argument to say, but my candidates are leading. And
- 22:16Speaker 2: pretty substantially for Sherrod Brown. And it's even a pretty
- 22:20Speaker 2: decent lead for Amy Acton. So stick that in your
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- 23:40Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Back to it, NewsRadio 570 WKBN, and Ron Verb, you're
- 23:48Speaker 2: on the air.
- 23:49Speaker 4: Hello.
- 23:51Speaker 9: Ron, good afternoon. How are you, sir?
- 23:53Speaker 2: I am well, Richard. Your thoughts?
- 23:55Speaker 9: That's good.
- 23:56Speaker 4: Gorgeous.
- 23:56Speaker 9: Oh, my God, what a gorgeous day.
- 23:58Speaker 2: It's perfect.
- 23:59Speaker 9: Anybody that complains about living in Ohio, and I know
- 24:02Speaker 9: the winters might be a little rough, and sometimes you
- 24:04Speaker 9: get a little too many clouds and rain, but... You
- 24:06Speaker 9: get days like this. I don't think they get a
- 24:09Speaker 9: day like this in Florida.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Listen, you can say what you want to say, but
- 24:14Speaker 2: actually living here is not a bad place to live.
- 24:17Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a bad place to live. We
- 24:20Speaker 2: have decent weather. I like cloudy days, and I like
- 24:24Speaker 2: days like today. So we had our share of rain,
- 24:28Speaker 2: but it kept things green and all that kind of stuff.
- 24:31Speaker 2: It hasn't been. It's a good place to be, let
- 24:33Speaker 2: me put it that way.
- 24:35Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I don't understand. If you have a job,
- 24:38Speaker 9: and the biggest issue for this area has always been,
- 24:41Speaker 9: can you find a good job after the mills went out?
- 24:44Speaker 9: I was about 10, 11 years old when that happened,
- 24:47Speaker 9: and it became very challenging for a lot of people,
- 24:49Speaker 9: and I think that's why so many people relocated and
- 24:52Speaker 9: moved out of the area. They didn't have a choice.
- 24:54Speaker 2: Yeah, but you still have people that live here that
- 24:56Speaker 2: do work in Akron and Cleveland and other places and
- 25:00Speaker 2: have good jobs that work here. There's still people working remotely.
- 25:04Speaker 9: Yeah, and I mean, generally, most of the schools are decent.
- 25:07Speaker 9: I mean, some are better than others, but with the
- 25:10Speaker 9: exception of probably Camel and Youngstown City, most of the
- 25:13Speaker 9: other schools are giving a decent education to kids. The
- 25:18Speaker 9: cost of living is still relatively inexpensive. Housing is still
- 25:21Speaker 9: relatively inexpensive. It's gone up like everything else, but compared
- 25:25Speaker 9: to a lot of the other areas of the country,
- 25:27Speaker 9: it's still not a bad place to live. So anyway,
- 25:30Speaker 9: whenever we have days like this, that's what it always
- 25:32Speaker 9: reminds me of, you know, all the The people moan
- 25:35Speaker 9: and groan about this area with the weather, but it's really,
- 25:37Speaker 9: I think on par, not that bad.
- 25:39Speaker 7: It's very tolerable.
- 25:41Speaker 2: I would agree. I would agree.
- 25:43Speaker 9: But anyway, I got a question for you. Let's say
- 25:45Speaker 9: you go out tonight and your engine blows up in
- 25:48Speaker 9: your car, and you go down to wherever it is, Columbia, Buick, Hawk,
- 25:54Speaker 9: or wherever you go to buy a car. Do you
- 25:57Speaker 9: expect to pay more or less for the vehicle than
- 26:00Speaker 9: you paid, say, five or ten years ago?
- 26:04Speaker 2: I would expect I would pay more, but I would
- 26:09Speaker 2: be shocked if it's substantially more. You haven't priced cars
- 26:16Speaker 2: lately then. Well, here's the rub. It depends what you buy.
- 26:23Speaker 2: If you go down, I would go obviously to Stadium GM,
- 26:26Speaker 2: but if you go down, I would be more inclined
- 26:29Speaker 2: to buy a Trax because it's an affordable vehicle. So
- 26:34Speaker 2: it's a vehicle for $ 30, 000 or less in that ballpark.
- 26:37Speaker 2: You can get a loaded one. And it's a pretty
- 26:40Speaker 2: nice vehicle versus $ 50, 000 or.
- 26:43Speaker 4: $ 60, 000.
- 26:43Speaker 2: I think that's insane for a vehicle.
- 26:46Speaker 9: Oh, I mean, in $ 60, 000 anymore, you're not even getting
- 26:49Speaker 9: a whole lot for $ 60, 000. I mean, there's a lot
- 26:52Speaker 9: of vehicles that are in this. You look at trucks.
- 26:55Speaker 9: Look at your– average truck today has got to be–
- 26:58Speaker 9: got to probably start at $ 45, 000 or $ 50, 000. And well-equipped
- 27:01Speaker 9: with nice options, it doesn't take much to get into
- 27:04Speaker 9: the $ 70, 000.
- 27:05Speaker 6: $ 80, 000, $ 90, 000 range.
- 27:05Speaker 16: It's crazy.
- 27:06Speaker 10: Right.
- 27:08Speaker 9: Well, my point on that is– and we could go
- 27:10Speaker 9: down a list of other things that you would go
- 27:12Speaker 9: out to buy, and you would– you just go out
- 27:15Speaker 9: and you expect you're going to pay somewhat more. Right,
- 27:17Speaker 9: but it's still– Everybody wants gasoline to be $ 2 a gallon.
- 27:23Speaker 9: When realistically, if adjusted for inflation, and I sent you
- 27:27Speaker 9: the article from the Wall Street Journal this morning, gasoline
- 27:31Speaker 9: right now under Trump's second term, and even under his
- 27:34Speaker 9: first term, adjusted for inflation is less than what it
- 27:38Speaker 9: was under Obama, and it's less than it was under Biden.
- 27:42Speaker 9: But people want to price gasoline without taking inflation into consideration.
- 27:46Speaker 9: Like it's just always supposed to stay at $ 2 or
- 27:48Speaker 9: $ 3 a gallon. And I can remember in 2008, right
- 27:52Speaker 9: before the crash in 2008, if you remember, oil went
- 27:56Speaker 9: through the roof then. And I believe even then it
- 27:59Speaker 9: was about $ 4 a gallon. Now, that was crazy, but
- 28:01Speaker 9: that was 2008. That's almost, what, 20, 18 years ago.
- 28:06Speaker 9: And we're still barely there today. And what else can
- 28:11Speaker 9: you go out and buy and expect to pay less?
- 28:14Speaker 9: This whole affordability, the first caller, or no, the second caller,
- 28:17Speaker 9: I think, said he was talking about bringing the prices down.
- 28:21Speaker 9: You're not going to bring prices down. Prices generally do
- 28:24Speaker 9: not come down. It's supply, demand, and inflation. Those are
- 28:29Speaker 9: the two things that determine prices. And inflation, even if
- 28:33Speaker 9: it's 2.5% a year, compound that over a 10- or
- 28:35Speaker 9: 15-year period. It adds up to be a substantial increase
- 28:40Speaker 9: because it's 2.5% this year, but next year is going
- 28:43Speaker 9: to be 2.5% more on top of what the increased
- 28:46Speaker 9: price was. It's sort of like bank interest. The higher
- 28:49Speaker 9: your balance gets, the more interest you make. Well, the
- 28:52Speaker 9: higher the price goes, the more inflation is going to
- 28:56Speaker 9: increase it the next time.
- 28:58Speaker 2: It compounds.
- 29:00Speaker 9: Well, I don't like paying it. I mean, right now,
- 29:03Speaker 9: I've been doing some errands this weekend, taking furniture around,
- 29:07Speaker 9: doing a deck and things like that. I'm driving an
- 29:09Speaker 9: old beater truck that gets about 15 to 17 miles
- 29:12Speaker 9: to a gallon. So, yeah, I just blew about $ 90
- 29:14Speaker 9: this weekend filling this stupid thing up. But relative to
- 29:18Speaker 9: the rest of the things that we buy, I mean,
- 29:20Speaker 9: if you really want to complain, look at the price
- 29:22Speaker 9: of beef. And that's not going to come down anytime soon.
- 29:26Speaker 9: And furthermore, how would the government even get the price
- 29:30Speaker 9: of beef down? Are you going to import thousands of
- 29:36Speaker 9: herds of cattle? Because I think it takes about two
- 29:39Speaker 9: or three years to get cattle to build up a herd,
- 29:42Speaker 9: and that's assuming you don't slaughter. If you don't slaughter,
- 29:44Speaker 9: what happens to the price today? It goes up even
- 29:46Speaker 9: higher because there's less product on the market, supply and demand.
- 29:51Speaker 9: Less supply, the demand stays constant, price goes up. This
- 29:56Speaker 9: is just simple microeconomics. If you went to college, took
- 30:00Speaker 9: your freshman year in college. It's not hard, but anybody
- 30:03Speaker 9: that thinks prices are going to come down and is
- 30:06Speaker 9: voting or considering a politician who promises that, you need
- 30:11Speaker 9: to look at what your rationale is.
- 30:13Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. I think prices are going
- 30:15Speaker 2: to come down. I would counter that. That's it. As
- 30:19Speaker 2: perhaps I said to you in the past, I see
- 30:21Speaker 2: real estate prices coming down in Florida, for example, and
- 30:25Speaker 2: in other places. But I just point out to Florida
- 30:28Speaker 2: because I was reading that article where basically the prices
- 30:32Speaker 2: were soaring there. And you have prices that are coming down.
- 30:36Speaker 2: You have more homes on the markets, on the market
- 30:39Speaker 2: for longer periods of time, so the price of a
- 30:41Speaker 2: house is coming down. Not just there, but in other
- 30:45Speaker 2: parts of the country as well. I haven't checked Ohio lately,
- 30:48Speaker 2: but yeah, prices do.
- 30:49Speaker 9: I'll give you an Ohio example. The house across the
- 30:52Speaker 9: street from me sold about seven or eight years ago
- 30:56Speaker 9: for $ 350, 000. It was just listed last week. I think
- 31:01Speaker 9: $ 660 or $ 680, I can't remember, but it was upper $ 600s.
- 31:06Speaker 9: It sold in two days, so I'm assuming they got
- 31:08Speaker 9: probably close to their asking price. But basically, it didn't
- 31:13Speaker 9: quite double, but it went up from $ 350, $ 380 to, say, $ 650,
- 31:19Speaker 9: $ 680 in about an eight-year period. I don't see that
- 31:22Speaker 9: coming down.
- 31:23Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying that housing prices are coming down. Rents
- 31:29Speaker 2: have come down because, as G2 said, by getting all
- 31:32Speaker 2: the people out of the country that didn't belong here
- 31:34Speaker 2: in the first place. So if you see housing prices
- 31:37Speaker 2: come down, because they do come down, and if you
- 31:39Speaker 2: see with– what's the point of raising interest rates? I'll
- 31:43Speaker 2: give you a counter to everything you said. Why do
- 31:45Speaker 2: they raise interest rates? So that you can't afford stuff,
- 31:48Speaker 2: that you stop creating a demand. You stop buying stuff.
- 31:52Speaker 2: So if it's 7%, less people are more prone to
- 31:55Speaker 2: buy a house because of the interest rate. Less people
- 31:58Speaker 2: are prone to build a house. So if you slow
- 32:03Speaker 2: down building, what happens to the price of building materials?
- 32:08Speaker 2: They come down because the demand isn't there. I mean,
- 32:11Speaker 2: as long as you've been around, you shouldn't have.
- 32:13Speaker 9: To raise interest rates.
- 32:19Speaker 2: That is correct. But they are. No, they're raising interest rates.
- 32:24Speaker 2: If you would lower the interest rate, let's say back
- 32:27Speaker 2: to 2% or 3%, I think housing would boom again
- 32:29Speaker 2: because of the low interest rates. But keep in mind,
- 32:32Speaker 2: we just upped interest rates a quarter percent. Housing was
- 32:35Speaker 2: slowing as interest rates, the home loans had gone up
- 32:39Speaker 2: even at 6%. It was slowing. So the reality is
- 32:43Speaker 2: housing prices are coming down. You don't think that if
- 32:47Speaker 2: Trump solves this situation in Iran that gas prices will
- 32:51Speaker 2: come down? I bet they will.
- 32:53Speaker 9: And they will. But why were they low before the war?
- 32:57Speaker 9: Why were they as low as they were?
- 33:00Speaker 2: Because of his energy policy, supply and demand.
- 33:02Speaker 9: Because we pumped up a huge supply. And as supply
- 33:05Speaker 9: goes up, price goes down.
- 33:06Speaker 2: But you're the one saying to me prices never come down.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Egg prices are down because the bird flu is behind us.
- 33:13Speaker 2: Housing prices can come down.
- 33:15Speaker 9: They're back to where they were. They haven't really come down.
- 33:17Speaker 9: Because of a shock to the system, they're back to
- 33:21Speaker 9: where they were, maybe even a little higher.
- 33:23Speaker 2: But what I'm saying to you is, if he solves
- 33:27Speaker 2: this situation, if this situation gets solved in Iran, and
- 33:32Speaker 2: some of the situation that's going on in Ukraine, I'm
- 33:34Speaker 2: telling you that I think regular gas and diesel prices
- 33:39Speaker 2: will come down. So when you say prices never come down,
- 33:42Speaker 2: I totally disagree with that. It will come down. It
- 33:46Speaker 2: is supply and demand. They're raising interest rates because they
- 33:51Speaker 2: say spending is still too good, too brisk. Remember, I'm
- 33:55Speaker 2: the guy that said to you, I don't think raising
- 33:57Speaker 2: interest rates is going to make a difference because the
- 34:01Speaker 2: reason prices are going up is because of the energy situation.
- 34:05Speaker 2: That's why prices are going up, the cost of energy.
- 34:09Speaker 2: But I just don't agree with you. I think prices
- 34:11Speaker 2: do come down based on supply and demands, period.
- 34:15Speaker 9: But the chance that they're going to come down to
- 34:17Speaker 9: where they were before?
- 34:22Speaker 2: Before the war, I was paying $ 2. 50, $ 2. 75 for a
- 34:26Speaker 2: gallon of gas in this community before the war.
- 34:30Speaker 9: And you may see that on gas. But the chance
- 34:32Speaker 9: that all the other prices that have increased... Because the
- 34:36Speaker 9: one thing we all forget is why did all this
- 34:39Speaker 9: inflation occur? Because when– and it's pox on both their houses.
- 34:44Speaker 9: The Republicans spent way too much money. Trump spent a
- 34:46Speaker 9: ton of money, put trillions of dollars on COVID. Biden
- 34:50Speaker 9: came in and spent trillions of dollars on the Green
- 34:53Speaker 9: New Deal so that we could give upper-income people $ 7, 500
- 34:57Speaker 9: to buy EVs.
- 34:58Speaker 2: I'll tell you why the price has increased. Because your
- 35:00Speaker 2: insurance company says, hey, it costs more to replace your house.
- 35:04Speaker 2: Because your car company, your car insurance says it costs
- 35:07Speaker 2: more to fix your car. or to replace your car,
- 35:10Speaker 2: because they're the victims of inflation, too. If you can
- 35:13Speaker 2: bring all of this down, you've lived, well, I don't know,
- 35:16Speaker 2: but I've lived through this before under Jimmy Carter. You know,
- 35:19Speaker 2: I think it was Volcker under Reagan. Well, he created
- 35:22Speaker 2: somewhat of a recession that was going on with interest rates.
- 35:26Speaker 2: And as a result of it, there's nothing good about it.
- 35:28Speaker 2: People lost their jobs. People couldn't afford stuff, and prices
- 35:32Speaker 2: came down.
- 35:34Speaker 9: Look at what happened to housing prices in the 70s.
- 35:36Speaker 9: They went up, and then they stayed where they were at.
- 35:38Speaker 9: They didn't really come down. Even this area, when we
- 35:41Speaker 9: went through the steel mill closings, that was the only
- 35:44Speaker 9: thing that really brought it down, but made it stay
- 35:50Speaker 9: where it was at. You really didn't see price increases
- 35:52Speaker 9: in housing in this area for almost 30 years because
- 35:55Speaker 9: there just wasn't any demand. We lost so much population,
- 35:58Speaker 9: there was no demand. And in the cities where housing
- 36:01Speaker 9: was affordable, look at what we wrecked, 4,000 or 5,000
- 36:04Speaker 9: houses in the city that people just abandoned. You know,
- 36:08Speaker 9: we've never replaced that. I mean, think of what it
- 36:10Speaker 9: would take just to replace what was knocked down in
- 36:12Speaker 9: the city over the last 20 or 30 years. I mean,
- 36:16Speaker 9: that's the only way you're going to do it. And
- 36:18Speaker 9: with the cost of materials, you're just, in general, once
- 36:21Speaker 9: the price of something goes up, there's not that much
- 36:24Speaker 9: elasticity in price for it to come back down. Oil
- 36:27Speaker 9: being one of the exceptions. Foods sometimes can be an
- 36:31Speaker 9: exception if you have a bumper crop or a bumper year.
- 36:33Speaker 9: But generally, it increases as well. But people expect that
- 36:38Speaker 9: all of a sudden, somebody's going to get elected and
- 36:40Speaker 9: wave a magic wand and bring prices down. It's not
- 36:43Speaker 9: going to work that way. I don't think you'll ever find...
- 36:45Speaker 9: If you called Dane Davis up and asked him that question,
- 36:47Speaker 9: I think he would agree that you're not going to
- 36:49Speaker 9: see prices come down substantially, whether it's Democrats or Republicans
- 36:53Speaker 9: elected in November. So if that's the reason people are voting, don't.
- 36:58Speaker 9: Look at why you should vote for the candidate. And
- 37:02Speaker 9: the thing that I would say, if you want to
- 37:03Speaker 9: look at where electricity is most expensive, another Wall Street
- 37:06Speaker 9: Journal article today, almost exclusively in Democrat areas. Housing is
- 37:11Speaker 9: more expensive. Energy is more expensive. And why is that?
- 37:14Speaker 9: Because they regulate and tax everything to death. And so
- 37:18Speaker 9: they make it so expensive to build a house with
- 37:21Speaker 9: land restrictions and building code restrictions and things like that.
- 37:24Speaker 9: You look at, where is it the most expensive places
- 37:27Speaker 9: to live?
- 37:27Speaker 6: It's on the coasts.
- 37:28Speaker 9: And in the big cities, what do all three of
- 37:31Speaker 9: those have in common? They're all run by Democrats. There
- 37:35Speaker 9: isn't a Democrat community in this country that I would
- 37:40Speaker 9: want to live in. Maybe except for where the uber-rich live,
- 37:43Speaker 9: like in the Hamptons or something like that. But I
- 37:45Speaker 9: can't afford that, and nobody else can either. But for
- 37:48Speaker 9: an average community, you want to live in New York City?
- 37:50Speaker 9: It's a crap hole. L.A., Every time you go out,
- 37:54Speaker 9: there's homeless in the parking lots. You're being accosted walking
- 37:57Speaker 9: down the street by some druggy homeless person that's all
- 38:01Speaker 9: junked up on drugs, defecating in the street. That's what
- 38:05Speaker 9: you get when you elect Democrats. All these people that
- 38:08Speaker 9: think Amy Acton is the answer, look at what happened,
- 38:11Speaker 9: what Tim Walz did in Minnesota. That's exactly what you
- 38:14Speaker 9: will see if Amy Acton gets elected in November. She's
- 38:18Speaker 9: a village idiot. She couldn't take the heat during COVID,
- 38:23Speaker 9: so she got out of the kitchen. She's going to
- 38:26Speaker 9: be elected for governor for four years? What's going to
- 38:29Speaker 9: happen if we have an economic downturn and the state
- 38:31Speaker 9: economy really goes bad? We enter a depression or a
- 38:35Speaker 9: severe recession. Is she just going to quit then and
- 38:37Speaker 9: let the lieutenant governor take over? People really need to
- 38:43Speaker 9: think their decision out. Do I like Vivek and Houston?
- 38:45Speaker 9: Would they be my preferred candidates?
- 38:47Speaker 2: No.
- 38:48Speaker 9: But if you look at what the Democrat Party has become,
- 38:51Speaker 9: it's not the Democrat Party that you and I grew
- 38:54Speaker 9: up in, that we were raised in and used to
- 38:55Speaker 9: vote Democrat in back in the 70s and 80s. That
- 38:58Speaker 9: party is gone. It's the party of communists and socialists
- 39:03Speaker 9: and the woke ideology that they're pushing. So if you
- 39:07Speaker 9: like that, vote Democrat in November. If you have any
- 39:11Speaker 9: type of sanity and you think that that's all a
- 39:13Speaker 9: bunch of nonsense, you better plug your nose and pull
- 39:17Speaker 9: the R lever because you don't really have a choice.
- 39:19Speaker 9: The other choice is insanity. Because I can't think of
- 39:22Speaker 9: a Democrat run area in this country that I would
- 39:25Speaker 9: want to live in.
- 39:27Speaker 4: Can you?
- 39:30Speaker 7: Uh.
- 39:32Speaker 2: No.
- 39:33Speaker 7: No.
- 39:34Speaker 2: Although I would say this area is probably still 50-50.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Used to be a strong Democrat area, but it's 50-50.
- 39:42Speaker 4: We got rid of him.
- 39:42Speaker 9: Unfortunately, we still have that idiot Chacon who doesn't have
- 39:45Speaker 9: common sense enough to step down from the position that
- 39:47Speaker 9: he has. Doesn't have the intelligence to run. But let's
- 39:50Speaker 9: go back 15, 20 years. Remember Philomena? Remember Chance?
- 39:55Speaker 4: Remember the mob?
- 39:57Speaker 9: Who was on the take from the mob? It wasn't
- 39:59Speaker 9: Republican politicians. It was the Democrats that ran this area
- 40:02Speaker 9: and did all that. It took decades to root out
- 40:05Speaker 9: all that corruption and get rid of it. This area
- 40:07Speaker 9: is probably the best run it's been in my lifetime,
- 40:10Speaker 9: and I'll be 59 next month. And I don't think
- 40:13Speaker 9: it's ever run better than it is now. Now, is
- 40:15Speaker 9: there room for improvement?
- 40:16Speaker 16: Yeah.
- 40:17Speaker 9: I mean, like I've said, I would love to see
- 40:18Speaker 9: us have more than three county commissioners to make decisions
- 40:23Speaker 9: because we have three numbnuts that are making dumb decisions.
- 40:26Speaker 9: $ 60 million on a new building is asinine. We'd be
- 40:31Speaker 9: much better if we had a council of 15 or
- 40:33Speaker 9: 20 people that come together and at least you have
- 40:36Speaker 9: a chance then to get more intelligent people on a
- 40:40Speaker 9: county council than just having three people that basically are
- 40:44Speaker 9: like a triumvirate of dictators that can do whatever they
- 40:47Speaker 9: want and they're still going to get reelected. But this
- 40:52Speaker 9: area in general is wanting better than it ever has.
- 40:54Speaker 12: Why?
- 40:55Speaker 9: It's basically been taken over by conservative Democrats and by Republicans.
- 41:04Speaker 2: I would say if you said anything changed it, it
- 41:07Speaker 2: was probably Trump more than anything. Wouldn't you agree?
- 41:11Speaker 16: Yes.
- 41:12Speaker 2: All right. And it's how Trump changed the Republican Party.
- 41:14Speaker 4: All right, Rich.
- 41:15Speaker 2: Thank you. Ron Furb. This is Ron 570 WKBN from
- 41:18Speaker 2: the Kingdom of Mahoney.
- 41:23Speaker 12: Free shouldn't come with a catch.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN.
- 41:30Speaker 12: All right, Ron Furb.
- 41:31Speaker 2: You're on the air. Hello? Back on hold, you go.
- 41:40Speaker 2: Let's see. Wait a second. Let me put you on hold.
- 41:43Speaker 2: You're on the air. Very interesting. You're on the air.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Something's got to be screwing up the system here. Let's
- 42:00Speaker 2: see what we got going here. Hello?
- 42:03Speaker 17: Hey.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:04Speaker 7: Hey, Ron. Hey, Ron. You know, can I have an
- 42:07Speaker 7: honest discussion with you today?
- 42:09Speaker 2: Absolutely you can.
- 42:10Speaker 7: Can I? I've been waiting all day just to talk
- 42:13Speaker 7: to you, my friend.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Well, let's have an honest discussion.
- 42:17Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, Ron. I... I'm in my 30s,
- 42:20Speaker 7: and I got the hell out of Youngstown about 10
- 42:22Speaker 7: years ago.
- 42:23Speaker 2: Where'd you go?
- 42:25Speaker 7: I live in a big city now, but I don't
- 42:28Speaker 7: want to say which one just because of the world today.
- 42:34Speaker 7: You've got to be careful. But anyway, it's a big city,
- 42:36Speaker 7: and let's just say it's warm. And I'm by the
- 42:40Speaker 7: beach here right now.
- 42:42Speaker 12: I still tune in and listen.
- 42:44Speaker 7: I still tune in and listen to you.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Yeah, you want better weather. Okay, I got you. Go ahead.
- 42:51Speaker 7: But, you know, you say rent's gone down and all this. Now,
- 42:56Speaker 7: I'll tell you where I'm at. I'm in Florida. But
- 42:59Speaker 7: let me just say this. Rent has gone up here
- 43:02Speaker 7: like you wouldn't believe. You know, I'm a modest young man.
- 43:07Speaker 7: I live in a one-bedroom apartment, and I'm paying a
- 43:10Speaker 7: little over $ 2, 000 right now just because I don't want
- 43:13Speaker 7: to live in an area that's completely crime-ridden. And, you know,
- 43:17Speaker 7: we have a Republican governor down here, DeSantis, but I'll
- 43:20Speaker 7: tell you what, man, I still see the LGBTQ propaganda
- 43:25Speaker 7: quite a bit down here. So despite us having these
- 43:28Speaker 7: Republican leaders, we're still losing this culture war. In many ways, every–
- 43:35Speaker 7: and I don't want to get too far off subject here,
- 43:37Speaker 7: but every movie, video game I digest in this world
- 43:42Speaker 7: is littered with just your typical LGBTQ characters. I mean,
- 43:47Speaker 7: if I had a little son today, I'd be afraid
- 43:49Speaker 7: to even put him in front of some of these
- 43:53Speaker 7: movie shows and games. You know, just for example, the
- 43:56Speaker 7: new X-Men Wolverine game, there's a homosexual romance option in that.
- 44:01Speaker 7: I mean, it's just so even with Trump being president,
- 44:05Speaker 7: we're still being littered with this on all sides, all sides, everywhere.
- 44:10Speaker 7: And I know that's the private sector.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Now, just stand by. Stand by. Let me do my headlines.
- 44:15Speaker 2: I want to come back to you. Sounds like an
- 44:17Speaker 2: interesting discussion a guy wants to have with us. And
- 44:20Speaker 2: I'll be all ears and come back with more right
- 44:22Speaker 2: after this.
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- 47:39Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
- 47:46Speaker 2: From NewsRadio 570 WKBN, 4.05 in the afternoon with Ron Verb.
- 47:51Speaker 2: All right, so you moved on. Why did you leave
- 47:53Speaker 2: this area?
- 47:56Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate you having me on today, Ron. Thank
- 47:58Speaker 7: you for the time. You know, really, just economic reasons.
- 48:06Speaker 7: You know, my... parents divorced and, you know, just things
- 48:11Speaker 7: kind of went their own way. And I, you know,
- 48:14Speaker 7: and I needed to grow and I just felt like
- 48:16Speaker 7: I wasn't growing there.
- 48:17Speaker 2: And how old were you when you left?
- 48:21Speaker 7: Well, what was I in my, my mid twenties, around 26, 20,
- 48:27Speaker 7: maybe 20, yep. Late 26, almost 27. And, and I'll
- 48:31Speaker 7: tell you what, Ron, I, it, I've made it here.
- 48:35Speaker 7: But it is a reality check coming from, you know,
- 48:39Speaker 7: Youngstown to a big city, whether it be Los Angeles,
- 48:43Speaker 7: New York City, Miami, Fort Lauderdale. But I will say
- 48:47Speaker 7: I am in a larger metropolitan area, and it's a
- 48:50Speaker 7: rat race. And I'm fortunate enough to have a decent job.
- 48:55Speaker 7: and I'm single and I don't have any children, so
- 48:57Speaker 7: I'm able to do my thing. But I know it
- 49:01Speaker 7: is a pipe dream if I actually wanted to try
- 49:04Speaker 7: and start a family, get married, have kids. It would
- 49:06Speaker 7: create just– it just sounds like a pipe dream to
- 49:09Speaker 7: me at this rate.
- 49:10Speaker 2: How old are you now?
- 49:13Speaker 7: Well, I'm 35 right now.
- 49:15Speaker 2: Okay, now listen to me. Listen to me on a
- 49:19Speaker 2: couple of things. and then I want to hear what
- 49:20Speaker 2: you have to say. Probably the most important thing you'll
- 49:26Speaker 2: ever do in your life. One of the most important
- 49:29Speaker 2: things is if you can find a girl that loves
- 49:33Speaker 2: you and you love her and you ask her to
- 49:35Speaker 2: marry you, as I say, the biggest compliment any man
- 49:37Speaker 2: can get is when his girl says she'll marry him.
- 49:42Speaker 2: I mean, there is no compliments bigger than that one.
- 49:46Speaker 2: That is the biggest compliment you'll ever have. And there's
- 49:49Speaker 2: nothing more rewarding in life than having children. And what
- 49:53Speaker 2: I'm saying to you first and foremost is don't let
- 49:57Speaker 2: that pass you by because it's one of the best
- 49:59Speaker 2: parts of life. Don't let that pass you by. With
- 50:03Speaker 2: that being said, I don't know that anybody says, oh,
- 50:06Speaker 2: this is the right time. Everything's in line or I
- 50:09Speaker 2: got the right job or I make enough money. You
- 50:12Speaker 2: just adapt and and adjust to it. You just adapt
- 50:17Speaker 2: and adjust to it because if your parents thought like
- 50:20Speaker 2: you did, they probably would have never had you. And
- 50:23Speaker 2: I mean, so you're a worrier about all this kind
- 50:26Speaker 2: of stuff. Now, wait a second. Wait a second. I'm
- 50:30Speaker 2: not done with you. Now you're talking about Florida. And
- 50:34Speaker 2: I can tell you, and I've spent my, I spend
- 50:36Speaker 2: my sure time there, but my daughter lives there and
- 50:40Speaker 2: they moved there. When they graduated college, I'm going to
- 50:43Speaker 2: say about five or so girls in their sorority all
- 50:48Speaker 2: moved to Florida, all moved to Orlando. None of them
- 50:52Speaker 2: have returned here. None of them. I don't blame them.
- 50:55Speaker 2: You can't blame them. And guess what? They all have
- 50:59Speaker 2: good jobs. They all make a good living. Groceries are
- 51:02Speaker 2: the same price there as they are here. Gasoline is
- 51:05Speaker 2: the same price there as it is here. Housing prices
- 51:08Speaker 2: are coming down. I mean, you can get a decent
- 51:11Speaker 2: house just like here. It's going to cost you $ 300
- 51:14Speaker 2: or $ 350 this day and age. And it's probably going
- 51:16Speaker 2: to be about the same in Florida, probably the $ 350
- 51:20Speaker 2: or above. But there's affordable houses in nice communities that
- 51:25Speaker 2: are relatively new. The expenses are pretty much the same
- 51:30Speaker 2: as they are here. And they're all making it. Now,
- 51:33Speaker 2: I'm not saying if you're in Miami, that's a different story,
- 51:37Speaker 2: depending if you go to some high-rise in Miami. But
- 51:40Speaker 2: I can also tell you that there's plenty of people
- 51:43Speaker 2: that are renting for less than what you're paying, that
- 51:46Speaker 2: the rents have come down. So it depends where you are. But,
- 51:52Speaker 2: I mean, it's like you're saying– To a certain extent,
- 51:56Speaker 2: I'd never be right to get married. I'd never be
- 51:58Speaker 2: able to afford kids. I'll never make enough money. Well,
- 52:01Speaker 2: you're going to go through life with a lot of
- 52:02Speaker 2: regrets because you're a never guy.
- 52:06Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
- 52:07Speaker 7: I see my friends with kids, and that's going to
- 52:12Speaker 7: take away my time playing video games. There you go.
- 52:17Speaker 2: I mean, it's priorities.
- 52:21Speaker 7: Let me just say this, Ron.
- 52:23Speaker 9: It is very hard.
- 52:24Speaker 7: Young men today are actually protesting the idea of dating
- 52:28Speaker 7: and marriage, the institution of marriage in itself. Well, I
- 52:32Speaker 7: don't know about that.
- 52:33Speaker 2: I've gone to plenty of weddings of younger people. I mean,
- 52:37Speaker 2: that are getting married. I think you just got some
- 52:40Speaker 2: psychological problems. You need a good shrink.
- 52:43Speaker 7: You need a psychiatrist, maybe a whole college. Have you
- 52:47Speaker 7: seen how women dress at the gym these days? That's
- 52:50Speaker 7: not exactly marriage material, Ron. Have you seen the leggings
- 52:54Speaker 7: these women wear? There's nothing left in the imagination, my friend.
- 52:58Speaker 2: I tell you. And how often do you go to
- 52:59Speaker 2: the gym, that being the case, every other day or
- 53:02Speaker 2: every day?
- 53:02Speaker 7: I work out at home because I don't want to see.
- 53:06Speaker 2: I don't want to see that.
- 53:07Speaker 7: It's very obscene.
- 53:09Speaker 2: You can't go and you can't take it in. So
- 53:12Speaker 2: do you think you have homosexual tendencies?
- 53:15Speaker 12: Come on.
- 53:16Speaker 7: Listen, I don't want to take up too much. I
- 53:18Speaker 7: know you've got other callers.
- 53:19Speaker 9: Let me just say this.
- 53:21Speaker 7: I'm a Republican, and I am a right-winger, but I
- 53:24Speaker 7: just find it futile to go out, stand in line,
- 53:27Speaker 7: and vote because everything that the Democrats are for, I
- 53:30Speaker 7: think the Republicans are only pretending to be against.
- 53:34Speaker 2: But you're a guy that can't take a look at
- 53:37Speaker 2: women in yoga pants. I mean, this is coming from
- 53:41Speaker 2: a guy who can't go to the gym and look
- 53:43Speaker 2: at a woman in yoga pants. You've got some serious problems.
- 53:45Speaker 7: If your woman respects you, she's not going to dress
- 53:48Speaker 7: like that in public, my friend.
- 53:50Speaker 2: Should they put on like they do in the Middle
- 53:51Speaker 2: East where only their eyes show? Is that what you're
- 53:53Speaker 2: looking for?
- 53:54Speaker 7: That's one thing Christians and Muslims, I think we could
- 53:57Speaker 7: get along with. Yes, I do appreciate how the Arabs
- 54:01Speaker 7: have their women dressed. It's quite modest, and it reminds
- 54:03Speaker 7: me how.
- 54:03Speaker 12: My grandma used to dress.
- 54:05Speaker 2: Now, when you go out in Florida, are you wearing
- 54:09Speaker 2: shorts and T-shirts? I mean, how do you know the
- 54:14Speaker 2: women aren't looking at that man-like body of yours as
- 54:18Speaker 2: you go out scantily clad?
- 54:20Speaker 7: Here's what gets me, Ron. I see homeless people everywhere
- 54:24Speaker 7: down here in Florida, white Americans, too, not just Hispanic
- 54:28Speaker 7: and third world people. There are there are struggling white
- 54:31Speaker 7: Americans in this country. Our governors too busy signing anti
- 54:35Speaker 7: free speech bills for Israel.
- 54:37Speaker 2: You got the best government. You get the best governor
- 54:39Speaker 2: in the world. All right. Well, I hope you get
- 54:42Speaker 2: a psychiatrist because you really do need one. I tell you,
- 54:46Speaker 2: he's really got some issues. You're on the air.
- 54:49Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, back to how are we losing being a
- 54:53Speaker 5: red state to these Democrats. The one entity that never
- 54:57Speaker 5: gets their fair share of the blame is the Ohio
- 55:01Speaker 5: Republican Central Committee. That when we go back in time,
- 55:05Speaker 5: because so much of this comes from DeWine. DeWine was
- 55:09Speaker 5: the one that put John Husted out there after J.D.
- 55:12Speaker 5: Vance got called up to VP.
- 55:14Speaker 7: Yep.
- 55:14Speaker 5: And John Husted was a damaged candidate.
- 55:17Speaker 2: Yep.
- 55:17Speaker 12: Mike DeWine lost his.
- 55:19Speaker 5: Senate seat to Sherrod Brown, and it seems like Sherrod
- 55:22Speaker 5: Brown just trolls around behind Mike DeWine waiting for him
- 55:25Speaker 5: to fail epically. There would have never been a Amy
- 55:29Speaker 5: Acton had there never been Mike DeWine as a governor.
- 55:32Speaker 2: That's true.
- 55:33Speaker 5: And there was the Ohio Republican Central Committee gave DeWine
- 55:38Speaker 5: after the lockdown, after Acton, after he said that he
- 55:42Speaker 5: wanted to keep his emergency powers and it had to
- 55:45Speaker 5: be vetoed by the House and the Senate. that they
- 55:48Speaker 5: had full-throated support, gave him all the money, all the
- 55:53Speaker 5: influence that the Republican Party could throw at a candidate
- 55:56Speaker 5: simply because he was a sitting governor. Instead of going
- 55:59Speaker 5: out and finding somebody better, which you could throw a
- 56:02Speaker 5: dart at a phone book, to pick a name randomly,
- 56:05Speaker 5: you could find somebody better than Mike DeWine to represent
- 56:08Speaker 5: Republicans and conservatives in this state. But they stuck to
- 56:12Speaker 5: their guns and did what they always did, and they
- 56:15Speaker 5: deserve— this falls.
- 56:16Speaker 4: At their feet— If we get Sherrod Brown back and.
- 56:22Speaker 5: We get Amy Acton, we can link it to Mike DeWine,
- 56:26Speaker 5: but let's take one step further. And it's the Central Committee.
- 56:31Speaker 5: And when you think about what's the purpose of Ohio
- 56:33Speaker 5: Central Committee, Ohio Republican Central Committee, they want to be
- 56:37Speaker 5: the shepherds because we're all the sheep. They want to
- 56:40Speaker 5: influence us because we can't be left alone to make
- 56:43Speaker 5: our own decisions and And if they were to dissolve
- 56:49Speaker 5: and go away, I think we would have better leadership
- 56:52Speaker 5: than what they.
- 56:53Speaker 6: Put in front of us.
- 56:54Speaker 5: And it has been a failed organization. We had eight
- 56:57Speaker 5: years of Kasich, eight years of DeWine, 16 years of rhinos.
- 57:02Speaker 5: And that tells me that most of the people that
- 57:05Speaker 5: are the power brokers, the kingmakers on the Ohio Republican
- 57:09Speaker 5: Central Committee are rhinos themselves because that must be what
- 57:13Speaker 5: they love. Because that's who they keep feeding up to us.
- 57:15Speaker 5: And we have to keep going back to the polls,
- 57:20Speaker 5: holding our nose and voting for the lesser of two
- 57:22Speaker 5: evils year after year after year after year.
- 57:27Speaker 4: So let's make sure that we.
- 57:29Speaker 5: Stand up and remember all of the shadow men and women.
- 57:35Speaker 5: Like Jimmy Haslam, by the way. He's on Ohio Republican
- 57:38Speaker 5: Central Committee. He donated a million dollars to the Ohio
- 57:41Speaker 5: Central Republican Central Committee. And in return, he got $ 600
- 57:44Speaker 5: million from our unclaimed funds for his failing Cleveland Browns
- 57:47Speaker 5: to build a new stadium. And that's the sort of
- 57:51Speaker 5: thing that goes on with this Ohio Republican Central Committee.
- 57:54Speaker 5: So let's not forget them. And I put all the
- 57:57Speaker 5: blame in them. I think Ramaswamy wasn't the best candidate.
- 58:02Speaker 16: I think he had some problems.
- 58:04Speaker 9: I think he still has some problems.
- 58:06Speaker 5: And Houston was badly damaged. But, you know, we didn't
- 58:09Speaker 5: get to vote on that. That was DeWine's choice.
- 58:14Speaker 2: I mean, I'm listening to your dissertation, and so far
- 58:17Speaker 2: I'm just finding myself agreeing with it. Because I could
- 58:21Speaker 2: say to you, just as I'm listening to you, as
- 58:22Speaker 2: I've said, I will vote for John Huston because there's
- 58:25Speaker 2: no way I could vote for Sherrod Brown because he's
- 58:28Speaker 2: just he is a progressive and he supported everything that
- 58:31Speaker 2: Biden was doing. And I don't listen. I'm a broken record.
- 58:35Speaker 2: I don't want to go back to what are your pronouns.
- 58:37Speaker 2: I don't want to go back to we got to
- 58:38Speaker 2: rename Fort Hood. I don't want to go back to
- 58:41Speaker 2: ribbon-down statues. I don't want to go back to transgenders
- 58:45Speaker 2: in school. I don't want to go back to any
- 58:47Speaker 2: of the wild sexual stuff that they're talking about or
- 58:49Speaker 2: their energy policy or they're just the nonsense. I mean,
- 58:54Speaker 2: because when Bill Maher says the problem with the Democrats
- 58:57Speaker 2: are they're crazy, he's 100% correct. I cannot vote for that.
- 59:01Speaker 2: So I will vote for John Husted. There's nothing about
- 59:05Speaker 2: him that excites me at all. It's just that he's
- 59:07Speaker 2: a Republican and the philosophy of the party is better
- 59:11Speaker 2: than the other parties. So I will vote for John Husted.
- 59:13Speaker 2: But you make a good point. I kind of enthusiastically
- 59:18Speaker 2: voted for Bernie Marino. There was some excitement about it.
- 59:22Speaker 5: Yeah, outsider, business guy. I haven't agreed with his cozying
- 59:27Speaker 5: up to Elizabeth Warren yet. But all in all, I
- 59:31Speaker 5: think he's got conservative principles, but it was somebody new.
- 59:34Speaker 5: But this is the problem, is that we don't have
- 59:38Speaker 5: anybody new, and we didn't even get the choice. And
- 59:42Speaker 5: it's just kind of like, you know, DeWine was a retread.
- 59:46Speaker 5: When he failed from Senate and then decided to run
- 59:48Speaker 5: as governor, he wasn't in that office for 15 minutes
- 59:52Speaker 5: during his first term whenever he said we need to
- 59:54Speaker 5: raise the gas tax 10 cents a gallon. Back before
- 59:58Speaker 5: all of this was happening, he has been a Democrat
- 1:00:01Speaker 5: in Republican clothing for a.
- 1:00:03Speaker 12: Long, long, long, long time.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: Well, you take a look at his stand on the
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: Somalians or the Haitians that are in our states and
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: what he has to say about that.
- 1:00:17Speaker 5: He is continuing to support Amy Acton as if he
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: is trying to get the Democrat to win.
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: I think if I could peek in, merely my cynical mind,
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: I'd be curious who DeWine actually does vote for.
- 1:00:33Speaker 5: Oh, I think there's no doubt about it. I think
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: he's going to vote for Amy Acton. And Amy Acton
- 1:00:37Speaker 5: was a known Obama campaign organizer. Why in the world
- 1:00:42Speaker 5: would a Republican governor bring her in to his team
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: and be the health director for the state of Ohio?
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: Did he miss that on her resume? I don't think so.
- 1:00:56Speaker 5: I think he'd like that on her resume. And so
- 1:01:01Speaker 5: there's so many questions with this guy that we, we,
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: we think the Ohio Republican central could just think about
- 1:01:07Speaker 5: the term central committee that just smacks of communism in
- 1:01:10Speaker 5: and of itself. And that they have all the power. They,
- 1:01:14Speaker 5: they gather all the money. They send out, they send
- 1:01:16Speaker 5: out all the fundraisers for us. And we're supposed to
- 1:01:19Speaker 5: think that we're supporting, supporting a conservative organization.
- 1:01:22Speaker 12: We are not.
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: That is the head of the snake that put Kasich
- 1:01:26Speaker 5: and DeWine in office for 16 years. And those are
- 1:01:30Speaker 5: the people that I would love to shine light on
- 1:01:33Speaker 5: and say.
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: Who the hell are these people?
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: Because this is statistically off the chart significant that we
- 1:01:39Speaker 5: would have 16 years of rhinos. And then we have
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: Matt Huffman and we have Rob McCauley. And I think
- 1:01:46Speaker 5: that's the other thing that Vivek heard himself. He went
- 1:01:49Speaker 5: with a swamp monster with Rob McCauley. You can't say
- 1:01:53Speaker 5: that you're an outsider and then go with one of
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: the deep swamp inside rhino Republican Central Committee picks to
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: be your running mate. What that means is when Vivek
- 1:02:04Speaker 5: moves up, because he wants to run for president, then
- 1:02:07Speaker 5: we'll be right back where we are with another Rob
- 1:02:10Speaker 5: McCauley who's going to be a future John Kasich and
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: a future Mike DeWine. Because he's part of the apparatus
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: that is the Ohio Republican Central Committee. So I would
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: love to have some of these people come out of
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: the shadows and start answering some questions about why in
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: God's name do we have such crappy candidates?
- 1:02:30Speaker 16: Generation after generation after generation.
- 1:02:33Speaker 5: And we get nothing done. It was amazing that it
- 1:02:35Speaker 5: was Amy Acton that first said, let's lower the gas tax.
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: And then you had Ramaswamy, Rob McCauley and Matt Huffman
- 1:02:43Speaker 5: running for a camera, running from the microphone to do
- 1:02:45Speaker 5: damage control when they could have.
- 1:02:47Speaker 7: Done that months ago.
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: They should have done it months ago. Four billion dollars
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: in a rainy day fund, which means four billion dollars
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: of revenue that's over their budget. And DeWine is saying
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: that he can't give us that gas tax relief. He
- 1:03:01Speaker 5: said it's going to cost six hundred million dollars. That, ironically,
- 1:03:05Speaker 5: is the same amount that he gave Jimmy Haslam and
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: the Browns, a private organization, to build their new stadium.
- 1:03:13Speaker 5: But see, Jimmy Haslam gave them a million dollars. We're
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: just mud people out here that don't deserve a damn thing.
- 1:03:19Speaker 9: So that's the way that the Republican Party in.
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: The state of Ohio, and that's why we'll never be
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: a Florida, we'll never be a Tennessee or a Texas,
- 1:03:29Speaker 5: because they would never get a Ron DeSantis. They would
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: never let him anywhere nearer. the governor's mansion if he
- 1:03:36Speaker 5: had to go through the screening of our Ohio Republican
- 1:03:38Speaker 5: Central Committee. And that would be a good question. Why
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: in the hell didn't they go recruit him like an
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: NFL quarterback and tell DeSantis, hey, we know your term
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: limit is down there. Why don't you come up here?
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: At this point, I think we ought to just dissolve
- 1:03:52Speaker 5: the state of Ohio and see if we can just
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: call ourselves Florida North and whatever comes out of Tallahassee,
- 1:03:57Speaker 5: we agree with.
- 1:03:58Speaker 16: Because if we were corporate America, that's exactly what.
- 1:04:01Speaker 9: We would do.
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: Appreciate your insight. Thank you for your call. I enjoyed it.
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: I'll be back. It's time to take care of your health.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:04:11Speaker 12: That guy was interesting. 423 in the afternoon.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: You're on the air. Come back to your phone. You've
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: got to pay attention. Let me do this. I'm going
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: to just clear all of that. There we go. You've
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: got to pay attention because we try to move along
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: as quick as we can. I realize some of you
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: get frustrated because you have to wait a period of time.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: I get it. But there are times I try to
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: move as quickly as I can.
- 1:04:40Speaker 7: 330-729-9977.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: We'll get you through to us.
- 1:04:41Speaker 7: 330-729-9977.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: So they say the latest polling says what Sherrod Brown
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: has a pretty considerable lead. as far as becoming the
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: next senator from the state of Ohio. And Amy Atkin
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: is leading Ramaswamy in the governor's race. And that's what
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: we talk about because, quite frankly, let's be realistic. I
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: thought this was a red state. And yet for the
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: two top positions, senator and governor, they are saying in
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: a current polling that the Democrats are leading the pack.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: Is that because of Trump? Is that because of– The
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: dislike for Trump with this economy going on?
- 1:05:22Speaker 5: Yes?
- 1:05:22Speaker 7: No?
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: I don't know. You're on the air.
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: I just got a new agenda.
- 1:05:26Speaker 6: What was that called?
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: The Ohio Republican Committee? We're going to need to dissolve that?
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: That's what he wants to do. He says he's tired
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: of them putting rhinos in there.
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize there was a committee like that
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: in our state constitution and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: So when you start finding where the problem is, it's
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: time to root it out. And if that's the problem,
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: I'm going to investigate it.
- 1:05:51Speaker 7: I'll look.
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: I'll do some online research.
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: You'll be like Geraldo Rivera. Well, listen, that's where the
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: problem is, in his opinion. Right. Keep in mind, I
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: would say this about Mike DeWine. Mike DeWine was elected, what, senator, governor,
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: attorney general?
- 1:06:08Speaker 22: No.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: I mean, the citizens of Ohio have voted Mike DeWine
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: in all those offices. He didn't just take him over
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: by hostile arms. I mean, people in Ohio voted Mike DeWine. Well,
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: he was what? Attorney General. Wasn't he? He was Attorney General.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: He was governor, was senator. And I can't think of
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: there was something else that he was. But I mean,
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: he's been voted in all those office. It seems to
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: me the people of Ohio.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: Always holding our nose to vote, isn't it? Isn't it
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: always holding our nose?
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: I don't know. I just my impression was over the
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: years that obviously with that many offices, the people of
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: Ohio like Mike DeWine and maybe because they thought he
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: was wasn't an extremist either way, more of a moderate.
- 1:06:49Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: I mean, I'm speculating, but how else do you think
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: you got that?
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: There's a different problem in the Ohio Republican Party. The
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: different problem is they're not trying to move things in
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: the direction of communism, I don't think, or evilism or
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: anything like that. I think they still like the gun
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: laws and stuff like that.
- 1:07:08Speaker 17: But I think the.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: Big problem in the Ohio Congress is corruption. I think
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: the John Huston thing is kind of a little picture
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: of what goes on in the rest of the Ohio Congress.
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: And why they're there.
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: I don't feel good about it at all. I'm like
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: you guys, and I keep hearing people say, I'm not
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: going to vote for a single Democrat who wants child
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: gendering and communism. I'm not going to do that at all.
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: But I tell you what I am going to do,
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: and I hope the rest of the public does it too.
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: Once we get these guys in office, and when we
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: start moving in the direction of the Republican Party, I
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: want to do something to root out the corruption that's
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: in our state, and then in our fed. You know,
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: what's happening with the Somalis? What's happening with all that crap?
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: You know, that stuff needs to be handled, and people
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: need to be held accountable, which is another issue. Why
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: can't we get people to be held accountable? That killed me.
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: So I've got a new agenda. I'm retiring in one year. Really?
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: My nose will be to the grindstone.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: Well, tell me, how old will you be in one
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: year from now?
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: Sixty-two.
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: A year and a half.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: Sixty-two? All right, here's my question. I always got to
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: ask this when people are going to retire. How are
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: you going to cover your health care?
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: How am I going to cover it? I work in
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: the film industry, and I've got all my hours and
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: everything all squared away.
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: So I will be.
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: Full medical through motion picture, and then when I turn 65,
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: I'll be on Medicare.
- 1:08:39Speaker 10: All right.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: Motion picture, uh, secondary backup.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: So, all right. So based, so basically you can recover
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: and your healthcare will be provided for you till you
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: reach full retirement age, correct?
- 1:08:51Speaker 7: Yes. All right.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: And do you think you'll have, are you going to
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: take your social security at 62? I don't have to.
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: Uh, i can do a medical retirement only if i
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: choose to um but i have rental properties here in
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: uh in the county and other places.
- 1:09:09Speaker 9: In ohio are you going.
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: To evaluate that whether or not i need to take.
- 1:09:13Speaker 9: My yeah how financial retirement are.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: You healthy in general I am.
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: On zero meds. I weigh about 170 pounds, and I'm 5'8.
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: I'm at the gym about four days a week. I
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: have a very labor-intensive job in the film industry. I
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: don't do anything glamorous at all. I run power to
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: the set.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: All right. So if you're going to retire and you've
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: got your health care covered, if you take your Social
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: Security at 62, I mean, it's– Listen, I'd be the
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: first one to tell you I wouldn't take it until
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: I was 65 or 66 if I were you. 8%
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: a year is a significant amount of what you're going
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: to get monthly. I mean, the penalty. So if you
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: wait three years and you'll get 8, 8, 8, 24% more. Right? 24% more.
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: Why does that matter? Because what comes out of there
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: is the cost for your Medicare. I always tell people
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: the same thing, too. I mean, in my opinion. Hang
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: on a second, all right? I want to come back
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: to you. Just bear with me for a second. I'm
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: going to give him some retirement advice, even though he
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: doesn't want it. Back after this.
- 1:10:25Speaker 12: News Radio 570 WKVN.
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- 1:10:32Speaker 24: Caleb Flynn has been convicted of murdering his wife in
- 1:10:34Speaker 24: their tip city home back in February. The prosecution said
- 1:10:39Speaker 24: Flynn killed her because he wanted to be free to
- 1:10:41Speaker 24: marry his mistress. Flynn had claimed an intruder killed her
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- 1:11:39Speaker 2: I always like to stick my nose where it doesn't belong.
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: That's why I'm going to go back to this guy.
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: So you're going to be, what, 60, you said, when
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: you retire, right?
- 1:11:48Speaker 6: No, 62.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: Okay, 62. And you can collect from your work your
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: pension or whatever that is, right?
- 1:11:57Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:11:58Speaker 3: And I can choose just to do a medical retirement.
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: In other words, just get my medical coverage.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: Yeah, but how would you pay your electric bill?
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: Oh, I have other sources of income.
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: Okay. So I'm just trying to get the lay of
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: the land. That's all. But I always tell people when
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: they look at– Retiring, and everything's individual. I mean, make
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: no mistake, it's an individual thing for everybody. But a
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: lot of people say, boy, I can't wait until I
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: get 62 to retire. Well, the first big problem people
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: have is what are you going to do to cover
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: health care? You got that covered. Most people don't. You know,
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: if you retire before your Medicare age, health care is
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: very expensive to have that monthly obligation. But you get
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: substantially less Social Security. at 62 than you would at
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: 65 or 66 or 67. I mean, it's 8% less
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: a year. So why does that matter? Well, I would
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: tell everybody you're probably best to retire at 66 or 65,
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: not before then, because if you take it too soon,
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: what comes out of your Social Security check is the
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: cost of your Medicare. Your Medicare, which is $ 202 right now.
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: That's what comes out. So whatever your Social Security check is,
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: whatever it is, take $ 202 out of it. Keep in mind, taxes,
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: you've got to pay taxes on it. So anyway, take
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: your 202 out of it. So if you get a
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: $ 2, 000 Social Security check, now you're down $ 1, 800. And, of course,
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: there's tax on that. Uh, so it's, it's not a
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: whole bunch of money is what I try to tell people.
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: And guess what happens? The cost of Medicare, it goes
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: up every year. So it's 202 this year, next year,
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: it'll be even more and it'd be more after that.
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: So the more that you get, when you start, when
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: you start taking your, uh, social security, the better off
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: you are because the cost of your Medicare will go up, uh, in,
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: in time. And, and in my opinion, and, uh, It's
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: just my opinion. I'm a big proponent that you should
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: always be on standard Medicare when you decide to make
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: that decision, not Medicare Advantage, standard Medicare. Well, Ron, why
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: do you say that? And it can be more costly.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: With standard Medicare, I tell everybody the same thing. You
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: have no HMOs, no PPOs. You don't have to stay
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: in a network at all. You follow me? You don't
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: have to be in a network. You don't have any
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: of that to worry about. So if you go on
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: vacation to Florida... It's not a problem. You don't have
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: to say, well, you've got to stay in our network
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: and you've got to get pre-approvals and all that nonsense.
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: None of that happens if you go as standard Medicare,
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: not Medicare Advantage. Standard Medicare, you can go anywhere in
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: the country. You don't have to get pre-authorization or any
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: of that nonsense from the insurance company.
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: We've got counseling coming in about three months to go
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: over that stuff. But I'm listening.
- 1:15:06Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: And then get what's called a Plan G. All right?
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: The Plan G will cost you. I mean, if you
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: get a Plan G, then you pay for that out
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: of your checking account.
- 1:15:19Speaker 7: Okay?
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: It doesn't come out of your Social Security. That can
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: be anywhere from $ 150 on up a month. But with
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: Plan G, listen to me. Once you pay your yearly
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: deductible of like $ 275... Okay, that's your yearly deductible. You
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: follow me? Plan G will pay everything in its entirety.
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: That is your total deductible, $ 275. So the only expenses
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: you have on standard Medicare are the monthly cost of
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: 202 and whatever your Plan G cost, whatever that is. Okay,
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: follow me? What's the other.
- 1:15:51Speaker 9: One that everybody gets on that's the secondary one? It's
- 1:15:56Speaker 9: not Plan G, but you said don't get on that.
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: Medicare Advantage.
- 1:16:01Speaker 7: Advantage.
- 1:16:02Speaker 9: Right.
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: Medicare Advantage isn't Medicare. It's private insurance that Medicare gets
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: some money for. Then you've got to be in PPOs, HMOs.
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: You've got to get pre-authorization and all this kind of stuff.
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: No, I don't want that.
- 1:16:13Speaker 21: Right.
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: I don't do that.
- 1:16:14Speaker 11: I have broken parts.
- 1:16:15Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: If you're on standard Medicare, you don't have to go
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: through any of that. And if you get, even if
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: you say, well, Plan G is too expensive, which means
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: you can go with like Plan N. There's Plan G
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: and Plan N for your supplements. You've got to have
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: a supplement if you're on standard Medicare, okay? And so
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: if you go with Plan G or Plan N, Plan
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: N says like you've got to pay $ 50 deductible if
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: you go to the emergency room and $ 25 deductible going
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: to the doctor. Very minimal deductibles. But Plan N is
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: a little cheaper than Plan G. But I'm telling you,
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: if you go with regular Medicare, not Medicare Advantage, and
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: a Plan G, you'll pay the monthly cost for your
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: Medicare and your Plan G and a $ 275 deductible for
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: the entire year, and everything else will be covered with
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: absolutely no HMOs, PPOs, or networks to deal with or
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: preauthorization to deal with. That is a difference. And keep
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: it in mind. Keep all of that in mind because
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: this much I tell everybody, as you get older is
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: when you're going to get sick because you're getting closer
- 1:17:24Speaker 2: to the end of the line. And you don't know
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: if that's at 68 or 72 or whatever. But that's
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: when you're more prone to have health issues. And every
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: year those costs go up. You know, the cost of
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: Medicare go up and the cost of Plan G go up.
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: But if you have other income– If you do what
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: I'm telling you to do, you will have nothing to
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: worry about as far as your health insurance. I think, yeah,
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: but Plan G and standard Medicare at 65, not Medicare Advantage.
- 1:17:56Speaker 3: And that's going to afford me the ability to get
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: into some school council and start shaking up this Republican
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: committee thing.
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I mean, I just talked to a guy
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: today and he was really he gave me the best
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: answer I think I've heard in a long, long time.
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: And I said to him, how are you enjoying your retirement?
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: And he said to me, it's like being a kid again.
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: And I thought about that, and I thought that was
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: a great answer. Because, you know, I get to enjoy
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: my day, my summers, do whatever I want. And he said, basically,
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: he's thoroughly enjoying it. He said, it's like being a
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: kid again. I thought that was a great answer. And
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: I think you'll find that to be the case, too.
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: I hope you live a long life and, you know,
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: that you enjoy it.
- 1:18:44Speaker 4: I'm praying.
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: Do you have children?
- 1:18:48Speaker 6: I have three daughters.
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: I talked to you a couple weeks ago about my
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: daughter thinks the witch that killed her kid thinks her
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: husband did it. I don't know if you remember that conversation.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: I do remember that conversation. And I got to tell you,
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: I kind of side with the lone juror that's getting
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: picked on, who's basically said, the lone juror that said, oh, no,
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: I think that she's guilty of murder, not murder by
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: reason of insanity. You got to think of the victims,
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: these three kids and the horrible death that they faced.
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: And I think he thought of that. I think he
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: was the only one who had that on his mind.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: Who's that?
- 1:19:21Speaker 3: That he had the kids on his mind. the soldier
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: had the kids on his mind and not the woman.
- 1:19:28Speaker 9: Oh, so bad for the kids.
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: He felt that they were getting no justice.
- 1:19:33Speaker 5: Yes.
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: They were getting no justice.
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: I think.
- 1:19:36Speaker 11: Yes.
- 1:19:37Speaker 9: So I'm with you.
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: I'm with you a hundred percent on that. It's so often.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: I mean, we think about the person that's on trial, right?
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: Because you can see them and that kind of stuff,
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: but the victims are dead. They're not there. The prosecution
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: is there to speak for them. And it's like, I
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: don't disagree that to a certain extent you've got to
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: be kind of nuts to do what she did, obviously.
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: But that doesn't negate the fact that it seemed awful
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: premeditated to me. You made sure your husband left the
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: house and you did that kind of stuff. And I
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I agree. It's hard to explain people
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: that do some of these strange things. But I'm really
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: excited about your future. I hope you live a long life.
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: And most importantly, you stay healthy. That's the key.
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: Stay healthy.
- 1:20:20Speaker 4: That's it.
- 1:20:21Speaker 9: All right, buddy.
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: All right, Ron.
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
- 1:20:24Speaker 4: Thanks.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: You're on the air.
- 1:20:27Speaker 7: Oh, hello.
- 1:20:28Speaker 4: Yes.
- 1:20:30Speaker 9: Oh, you hung up on me.
- 1:20:32Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:20:32Speaker 9: You know what?
- 1:20:34Speaker 16: I just want to call in about that. Remember the van?
- 1:20:38Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember what?
- 1:20:45Speaker 16: A van. I went on a long trip with an
- 1:20:47Speaker 16: old van.
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I do remember that, yes.
- 1:20:52Speaker 16: Yeah, I was inside. You can't find anybody to work
- 1:20:56Speaker 16: on anything now. I mean, I had an engine code
- 1:21:00Speaker 16: come up. It had a spider injector, so they over-fueled
- 1:21:05Speaker 16: or noted for it. And I was in the middle
- 1:21:09Speaker 16: of pulling my intake manifold off And I'm 74, cramped
- 1:21:14Speaker 16: in a little space. You can't say, hello, hello.
- 1:21:18Speaker 9: I couldn't get out fast enough.
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: So you were looking for a mechanic, right?
- 1:21:26Speaker 16: Yeah, I was looking for one, but I'm going to
- 1:21:27Speaker 16: tear it down and do it myself. I was a
- 1:21:29Speaker 16: mechanic for years, so it ain't no big deal.
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: But you are right. I mean, it's very costly anymore
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: these days to get anything fixed. I mean, this idea
- 1:21:41Speaker 2: that car mechanics are cheap is really inaccurate. It's very
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: expensive to get your car serviced by mechanics today. It's
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: a very expensive undertaking.
- 1:21:53Speaker 16: Replace the injectors on this and intake manifold gaskets, and
- 1:22:00Speaker 16: I'm going to do the valve seals. And that's like
- 1:22:04Speaker 16: a $ 2, 500 job. And I'm going to do it for
- 1:22:09Speaker 16: maybe under $ 1, 000.
- 1:22:10Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: It might be more than $ 2, 500 if you went to
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: a shop. It just might be more than that.
- 1:22:18Speaker 16: They want $ 2, 500 in a job. But I can do
- 1:22:21Speaker 16: it myself for under a grand, I think.
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: Yeah, but the catch is you know what you're doing.
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: But wouldn't you admit to.
- 1:22:30Speaker 16: I've been a mechanic for 30 years. You know, I
- 1:22:33Speaker 16: know mechanics as well as you know Medicare. I wish
- 1:22:36Speaker 16: I knew Medicare as good as you did. I wouldn't
- 1:22:39Speaker 16: have made the choices I did.
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: Yeah, because once you get on Medicare Advantage, it's damn
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: difficult to get back on standard Medicare.
- 1:22:47Speaker 16: Yeah, I made that mistake. I went on and I'm
- 1:22:51Speaker 16: insulin dependent.
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:22:54Speaker 16: Oh, well, there's nothing I can do now.
- 1:22:55Speaker 7: No.
- 1:22:56Speaker 21: No.
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: Not a lot you can do about it. I mean,
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: standard Medicare is a really gold-plated plan. I mean, it's
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: really a great plan.
- 1:23:04Speaker 9: I wish I had called your show earlier or before
- 1:23:07Speaker 9: I retired.
- 1:23:08Speaker 16: I looked everywhere for good advice. That's what I got.
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: Well, live and learn, as they say. But the reality is...
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: You're lucky that you know how to fix what you
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: got so that you can fix it because finding good mechanics,
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: it's tough. Fixing anything, though, is a pain in the arse.
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. Fixing stuff, particularly when
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: you're on a vehicle that's been in salt and snow
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: and has got parts that are rusted on, there's nothing
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: easy about it at all.
- 1:23:42Speaker 16: This is a Florida van.
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 1:23:46Speaker 16: There's no salt in this. This thing still has the
- 1:23:48Speaker 16: original brake lines on it.
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: Okay, well, you're lucky. Well, then you're lucky in that sense.
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: What year is this beast? 99.
- 1:23:58Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: So think of this. That's 27 years old.
- 1:24:04Speaker 16: Yeah.
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: I mean, can you get the parts?
- 1:24:08Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what?
- 1:24:09Speaker 16: That's a nice thing because I had an older van.
- 1:24:12Speaker 16: It was a high-ish diesel. And, of course, I basically
- 1:24:16Speaker 16: worked on diesel trucks. So that's why I got that.
- 1:24:19Speaker 16: But it got to the point, if you had a breakdown,
- 1:24:23Speaker 16: you were screwed. I mean, you'd be sitting for a
- 1:24:26Speaker 16: month waiting for a part.
- 1:24:28Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:24:29Speaker 16: And the nice thing about the 5.7 platform with GM,
- 1:24:34Speaker 16: I could walk around the block and find the starter.
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the best things. They're everywhere.
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: Have you seen, though, like when you take a look
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: at the age of GM pickup trucks on the road,
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: it's pretty substantial. I mean, obviously they're talking in a
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: whole country, but it's not odd to see 25-, 30-year-old
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: GM pickup trucks still running every day and performing well.
- 1:24:59Speaker 4: I got a 2003 2500 6.0.
- 1:25:00Speaker 16: I've had that since it was new.
- 1:25:07Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:25:08Speaker 16: But the bad thing is they're having their problems on
- 1:25:12Speaker 16: a new vehicle if you don't want a new one.
- 1:25:16Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is.
- 1:25:17Speaker 16: The old ones like my 6.0, those things, they're like
- 1:25:21Speaker 16: four or five hundred thousand mile motors, you know?
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: Is that a Vortec?
- 1:25:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:25:27Speaker 16: Yeah, almost everything is a Vortec. But they have like
- 1:25:31Speaker 16: Gen 1, Gen 2, Gen 3.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: But it's a good motor. I agree with you. That's
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: a great motor.
- 1:25:37Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
- 1:25:39Speaker 16: In fact, from the 90s up until about 2010, if
- 1:25:46Speaker 16: you can find one in good shape, that's the vehicle
- 1:25:50Speaker 16: to get.
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, I get what you're saying, though.
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: It's just your flexibility on getting stuff done. You know,
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: I watch my youngest son who's, you know, obviously in
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: his early 30s. And just the other day, he replaced
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: the blower motor. You know, boom, took him maybe 10 minutes.
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: The blender he replaced took him 10 minutes. I mean,
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: some of the stuff that he studies and can do
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: just as a shade tree guy doing it's pretty impressive
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: to the old man, you know?
- 1:26:19Speaker 9: You know, it's a gift.
- 1:26:23Speaker 7: Oh, it is.
- 1:26:23Speaker 16: It really is. Not everybody has it. I've had that gift.
- 1:26:27Speaker 16: I work on almost, not just cars, almost everything.
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: But you know what the secret is? I'm going to
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: give you the secret to it all. Patience. Patience is
- 1:26:37Speaker 2: the key. Because my guy growing up and I mean,
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: you got to be able to walk away from it
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: when you get frustrated. Don't walk away and take a
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: break and then come back to it. Otherwise, you just
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: stay frustrated because it will frustrate.
- 1:26:52Speaker 16: That was the worst part when I worked on heavy
- 1:26:55Speaker 16: trucks is you're stuck there for eight hours.
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:26:59Speaker 16: If you get a problem you can't fix, you're screwed.
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: Yeah. You got to be able to walk away and think.
- 1:27:06Speaker 16: Well, they didn't give you that opportunity. And it's now,
- 1:27:12Speaker 16: like my van, I get tired of working on it.
- 1:27:15Speaker 16: I can go in the house and say, I'll piss
- 1:27:17Speaker 16: on you.
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: Isn't that a great feeling?
- 1:27:21Speaker 12: Yeah, it is.
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's... Well, I hope you get it fixed, man.
- 1:27:28Speaker 16: I think Trump is going to reap... The Republicans are
- 1:27:31Speaker 16: going to reap the sows of his.
- 1:27:34Speaker 16: I mean, he should have never went into Iran. That
- 1:27:37Speaker 16: was very, very foolish.
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: I'm in total agreement with you, and I criticize him
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: for that. I always got to put a comma there, though.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: I'm in total agreement with you. But the comma is,
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: I don't know what he knows either. You follow me?
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what information him and Rubio
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: have that I have no idea what it's about. I mean,
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: it's just.
- 1:28:01Speaker 16: What he promised in his platform and what he did.
- 1:28:05Speaker 6: Yep.
- 1:28:06Speaker 5: Yep.
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: I'm in total agreement with you. Total agreement with you.
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: But I also can see that they know more than
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: I do, and I'm sure there's a lot of stuff
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: they're not telling me.
- 1:28:17Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:28:18Speaker 16: Well, I think it's going to ultimately— and, you know, I'm
- 1:28:21Speaker 16: not a Democrat because— You know, the thing I hold
- 1:28:25Speaker 16: against the Democrat and the Republicans to both parties, the
- 1:28:28Speaker 16: Democrats are the first thing they want to do. Well,
- 1:28:30Speaker 16: you can't have a gas stove. You've got to run
- 1:28:33Speaker 16: this kind.
- 1:28:33Speaker 9: Of free on your car.
- 1:28:35Speaker 16: You've got to run an electric car.
- 1:28:36Speaker 9: And I'm tired of that.
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: Me too.
- 1:28:38Speaker 12: Hey, thanks.
- 1:28:39Speaker 4: I've got to go.
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
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- 1:29:00Speaker 6: Hey, Ron. Good show. I have a question. The gentleman
- 1:29:03Speaker 6: that calls that doesn't like President Trump, he's always talking
- 1:29:07Speaker 6: about the Epstein files. I was wondering, were those Epstein
- 1:29:11Speaker 6: files discovered during Biden when they had a Democrat majority? Like,
- 1:29:16Speaker 6: why weren't those taken care of then?
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question, because and even before Biden died,
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: I agree with you. You're saying, well, if you could
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: release everything, why didn't Biden release everything?
- 1:29:32Speaker 6: Yeah, ask him the next time he calls, which is
- 1:29:35Speaker 6: probably going to be tomorrow.
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: But my comment to you would be it's fair criticism
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: for all those people, because I do believe that there's
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: a double system of justice. Like I said before, I
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: believe Epstein was part of the intelligence community, and I
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: believe they were engaging in recruiting underage girls to have
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: sex with adult men. It's reprehensible what they were doing.
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: And quite frankly, nobody's being held accountable for it at all.
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: Nobody's going to jail, nobody's on trial, and it's a
- 1:30:02Speaker 2: double standard of justice. So the critics of the lack
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: of transparency with Epstein, I think they're 100% accurate. The
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: victims are just ignored, and it's a double standard of justice.
- 1:30:16Speaker 2: I think all of the information should have been released,
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: no matter who's the president, and the people should go
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: to jail and be held accountable, but they think And
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: it appears to me they are because they're either rich
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: or influential people that are getting away with it. And
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: it sickens me to be blunt with you.
- 1:30:32Speaker 7: I agree.
- 1:30:33Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks. Just ask him that question the next time
- 1:30:35Speaker 6: he calls.
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: Got you.
- 1:30:37Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks.
- 1:30:38Speaker 2: All right. I mean, that's my thought on the Epstein files.
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: And I spoke to you the other day about the
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: same thing. I just get frustrated with, here's Fauci. Listen,
- 1:30:51Speaker 2: look at how many times he took the 5th. Okay,
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: so we had that big hearing. Guess what? Nothing happened.
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: It's all showmanship. Okay, nothing happens. No one went to jail.
- 1:31:03Speaker 2: No one was held accountable, including any of Fauci's associates
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: that didn't get a pardon from Biden. I mean, so
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: we know this much. We know what they were up
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: to and what they were doing. We're well aware of that.
- 1:31:16Speaker 2: But there's never any results of it. The Russian hoax
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: in Trump's first term, we know it was all BS.
- 1:31:21Speaker 2: That really bogged the country down for three years. Did
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: anybody go to jail? One person, a minor person in it.
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- 1:31:30Speaker 2: and went to jail. And we had all these big investigations.
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- 1:35:07Speaker 2: These are the days we cherish, to say the least.
- 1:35:10Speaker 2: 77 degrees. It's a comfortable Tuesday afternoon, September 29th. And
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: your fearless leader, Ron Verb, from the Kingdom of Mahoning,
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: here tonight until 6 o'clock. And you're on the air.
- 1:35:22Speaker 7: Hey, Ron.
- 1:35:23Speaker 11: Hey, I wanted to call you back. Kingdom of Mahoning.
- 1:35:26Speaker 11: Can you hear me?
- 1:35:27Speaker 12: Yes, sir.
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: Yes, I got a copy on you.
- 1:35:29Speaker 6: Over.
- 1:35:30Speaker 11: All right. Yeah, I was talking to you yesterday, and
- 1:35:33Speaker 11: I had to go. I got to go back to
- 1:35:36Speaker 11: my house. But kind of following up on the, you know,
- 1:35:41Speaker 11: there's some polling about, you know, putting a Democratic Socialist
- 1:35:44Speaker 11: head-to-head against a MAGA candidate. You know, basically, just to
- 1:35:49Speaker 11: say it again, what that poll was saying is that
- 1:35:53Speaker 11: across all likely voters, they would most american fifty four
- 1:35:57Speaker 11: percent of americans which is a democratic socialist candidate like
- 1:36:00Speaker 11: mondami over a uh... you know a maggot candidate like
- 1:36:05Speaker 11: paxton or something like that you know that the maggot
- 1:36:08Speaker 11: candidates were down to like thirty four percent and uh...
- 1:36:12Speaker 11: you know i just kind of wanted to like you
- 1:36:16Speaker 11: know when i listen to your program i listen to
- 1:36:18Speaker 11: it a couple couple times a week maybe you know
- 1:36:20Speaker 11: if i if there's um... you know, when I'm driving
- 1:36:24Speaker 11: home from work and things like that. And I just
- 1:36:26Speaker 11: don't really hear anybody on your program who's kind of
- 1:36:29Speaker 11: like explaining or like elucidating what's going on there, you know,
- 1:36:34Speaker 11: where those democratic socialists are coming from.
- 1:36:38Speaker 2: Where are they coming from? Well, it's the extreme of
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. I mean, listen, it depends where you are. Obviously,
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: if you're in New York or in California, you probably
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: stand a pretty good chance of going in that direction.
- 1:36:53Speaker 2: So it very much depends what area you're in.
- 1:36:56Speaker 11: I guess what I would say is, like, if you
- 1:36:58Speaker 11: look back at American history, if you want to look
- 1:37:01Speaker 11: at the three most popular presidents, you know, most people
- 1:37:04Speaker 11: would say, you know, Washington. They would say Lincoln and
- 1:37:08Speaker 11: probably FDR. Basically, all three of those people are within
- 1:37:14Speaker 11: the liberal tradition. And, you know, Lincoln was basically a socialist.
- 1:37:21Speaker 11: FDR was basically a socialist. You know, if you actually
- 1:37:24Speaker 11: look at the policies that they pursued and enacted across
- 1:37:28Speaker 11: the country that made vast improvements on this country, that's
- 1:37:33Speaker 11: because of the ideology that comes from the liberal tradition
- 1:37:37Speaker 11: that developed into what we call socialism. And people are like,
- 1:37:41Speaker 11: I don't know, I mean, most Americans are extremely propagandized.
- 1:37:46Speaker 11: They don't really know what those terms mean, and that's fine. So,
- 1:37:50Speaker 11: you know, I don't think it's critical that you use
- 1:37:52Speaker 11: that term socialist, but those ideas that what we should
- 1:37:56Speaker 11: be doing is trying to improve society for each other
- 1:38:00Speaker 11: and for ourselves and for our neighbors. It's a pretty
- 1:38:03Speaker 11: foundational ideology to the left.
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: I get it, but why do you want to take
- 1:38:09Speaker 2: away personal responsibility? When you say you should improve all this,
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: why does that improvement always involve the productive having more
- 1:38:17Speaker 2: taken from them and more taxes taken from them to
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: give to someone else? I mean, where's the incentive?
- 1:38:23Speaker 11: I'll give you one example. I'll give you one example.
- 1:38:25Speaker 11: Let's look at, like, Medicare for All. You know, I mean,
- 1:38:28Speaker 11: there's a couple things I could say. No, one, if
- 1:38:31Speaker 11: you go to a Medicare for All system, like most
- 1:38:34Speaker 11: other countries do across the globe, they're all saving money
- 1:38:37Speaker 11: compared to what America spends. You know, okay, you could
- 1:38:40Speaker 11: say their outcomes are worse, but if you actually look
- 1:38:42Speaker 11: at it, it's mostly not true. But, you know, beyond that,
- 1:38:46Speaker 11: beyond the money that you could save there, What medical
- 1:38:51Speaker 11: insurance is used, it's used as a, what would I say?
- 1:38:57Speaker 11: It's like it's something that locks you into your job.
- 1:39:00Speaker 11: I mean, there's millions of people who hate their job.
- 1:39:03Speaker 11: They would much rather find a different job, one that
- 1:39:06Speaker 11: would even pay less maybe, but they stay there for
- 1:39:10Speaker 11: medical insurance. You know, I would much rather those people
- 1:39:14Speaker 11: be free to be able to start their own businesses.
- 1:39:17Speaker 11: Maybe they don't want to work. Maybe they would rather
- 1:39:21Speaker 11: get a different job. And instead of using that medical
- 1:39:24Speaker 11: insurance against them, which is what it is now, I
- 1:39:28Speaker 11: think it is freedom. to give people that opportunity to
- 1:39:32Speaker 11: expand their life without that stuff hanging over their head.
- 1:39:35Speaker 2: But who pays for it?
- 1:39:36Speaker 11: We all do.
- 1:39:37Speaker 2: I know, but they say it looks.
- 1:39:39Speaker 11: Like we all do anyways. I mean, the prices that
- 1:39:41Speaker 11: are set by insurance companies, they take the whole risk
- 1:39:45Speaker 11: pool of everyone in their pool, and they apply whatever
- 1:39:51Speaker 11: statistical mathematics to it, and they determine the price. That's
- 1:39:56Speaker 11: exactly what the government would do. And like, so when
- 1:40:00Speaker 11: people are like, oh, I'm going to be paying for
- 1:40:03Speaker 11: somebody else's insurance, you're already doing that. I mean, you're
- 1:40:06Speaker 11: in a risk pool. It's just right now it's run
- 1:40:09Speaker 11: by a private company who makes a profit off it.
- 1:40:12Speaker 11: And instead it could be run by a public company
- 1:40:15Speaker 11: who doesn't make a profit off it. You know, I mean,
- 1:40:19Speaker 11: it's up to you guys, but that seems pretty clear
- 1:40:21Speaker 11: to me.
- 1:40:22Speaker 2: I don't think that seems clear at all. I mean,
- 1:40:25Speaker 2: first of all, when you're talking, I sit back and
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: I say to myself, gee, I wonder why all these
- 1:40:29Speaker 2: sheiks come to the Cleveland Clinic to get their health
- 1:40:31Speaker 2: care done. I wonder why these people come down from
- 1:40:33Speaker 2: Canada to get their health care done in the United States.
- 1:40:36Speaker 2: Because contrary to what you said, I think we have
- 1:40:40Speaker 2: some of the best medical care in the world, particularly
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: where we're located with our local facilities. But in addition
- 1:40:45Speaker 2: to that, you have the Cleveland Clinic, UPMC. And so
- 1:40:49Speaker 2: in a lot of cases, you can get things addressed
- 1:40:51Speaker 2: much quicker and less waiting than they do and put
- 1:40:55Speaker 2: up with in Canada. Now, first and foremost, there's.
- 1:40:58Speaker 12: A number of things.
- 1:40:58Speaker 11: And you believe that because we have private insurance?
- 1:41:00Speaker 2: Yes, I do. There's a number of things that you've
- 1:41:03Speaker 2: said that are, I think, inaccurate. First of all, when
- 1:41:06Speaker 2: it comes to Medicare, Medicare is something that's earned and
- 1:41:08Speaker 2: you get it 65 after you pay taxes into it
- 1:41:11Speaker 2: and your employer pay taxes in it.
- 1:41:13Speaker 11: Was it socialists or capitalists who decided to implement that?
- 1:41:16Speaker 2: Can I finish my thought? So contrary to what I
- 1:41:20Speaker 2: just said to you, Medicare financially is busted. Medicare, the
- 1:41:25Speaker 2: future for Medicare is not good, even with people paying
- 1:41:29Speaker 2: in taxes. So for everyone to be on Medicare, they
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: speculate that it's more than $ 2 trillion a year. just
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: for everyone to be on Medicare. Where do you get
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: that $ 2 trillion for? Since our federal, what we take
- 1:41:46Speaker 2: in a year in taxes is $ 4. 5 trillion. So basically,
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: half of the entire budget would go to one item,
- 1:41:54Speaker 2: which would be Medicare. Now, so I'm backing up here
- 1:41:58Speaker 2: to say to you, do you believe in personal responsibility?
- 1:42:02Speaker 2: Do you think, you know, because my father, I'm turning
- 1:42:04Speaker 2: into my father saying this to you. Health care isn't
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: a right. Health care is a responsibility. As I was
- 1:42:10Speaker 2: covered by my father when I was a young man
- 1:42:12Speaker 2: and when I became an adult. As it was made
- 1:42:14Speaker 2: clear to me, you either find a job that provides
- 1:42:16Speaker 2: health care benefits or you go out and buy it
- 1:42:18Speaker 2: on your own. Those are your two choices. That's your responsibility.
- 1:42:24Speaker 2: Just as paying an electric bill is your responsibility. Just
- 1:42:27Speaker 2: as paying a gas bill is your responsibility. These aren't
- 1:42:31Speaker 2: things that should be given that you have a right to.
- 1:42:34Speaker 2: You're in a free country. And if you don't like
- 1:42:37Speaker 2: your job and you think you're tied to it because
- 1:42:38Speaker 2: your health care benefits, you become a prisoner in your
- 1:42:41Speaker 2: own mind. Then go find another job that you like
- 1:42:44Speaker 2: better that also offers you health care benefits. You're not
- 1:42:48Speaker 2: tied to that job. And if you want to start
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: a business, many people do. You can go out and
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: buy health care on your own, but you're going to
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: have to pay for it, whether that's Obamacare or any
- 1:42:58Speaker 2: type of private insurance. So, I mean, those are your options.
- 1:43:01Speaker 2: It's called personal responsibility. It's not up to someone else
- 1:43:05Speaker 2: to pay for all of these personal responsibilities that you
- 1:43:10Speaker 2: want them to pay. 50% of the people are paying
- 1:43:13Speaker 2: taxes in this country. The other 50% aren't. So I
- 1:43:17Speaker 2: don't know how you fund all of this giveaway stuff.
- 1:43:20Speaker 2: And as much as I praise Social Security, Social Security,
- 1:43:24Speaker 2: as they've told you in seven or eight years, has
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: got some serious issues. Serious issues.
- 1:43:30Speaker 11: Yeah, because we don't all contribute equally to it. I mean,
- 1:43:32Speaker 11: that's an easy one. But, you know, talking about Medicare,
- 1:43:36Speaker 11: I mean, what you're saying is that it's the responsibility
- 1:43:39Speaker 11: of mothers and fathers and children to support the elderly.
- 1:43:43Speaker 11: I mean, I agree with that. I agree that we
- 1:43:47Speaker 11: should all contribute to extending the lives of the elderly.
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: No, that isn't what I'm saying to you. I just
- 1:43:53Speaker 2: said to you, as you're working, you pay into Medicare
- 1:43:56Speaker 2: during your work life as well as your employer. It
- 1:43:59Speaker 2: is a tax that you pay during your working years
- 1:44:02Speaker 2: that you qualify for Medicare. It is not a gimme program.
- 1:44:07Speaker 2: It's one that you pay into, just as you pay
- 1:44:09Speaker 2: into Social Security. And you have to have so many quarters.
- 1:44:13Speaker 2: What you pay in determines what you get out. So
- 1:44:16Speaker 2: we don't say everybody that gets on Social Security gets
- 1:44:19Speaker 2: the same amount. We're socialists. It doesn't matter. Everybody's going
- 1:44:23Speaker 2: to get $ 3, 000. This guy isn't going to get $ 1, 800
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: even though he didn't pay in as much. It doesn't
- 1:44:28Speaker 2: work like that. It's how much did you pay in?
- 1:44:30Speaker 2: Did you work enough quarters? Here's the amount that you're
- 1:44:32Speaker 2: going to get. From Medicare, you pay in during your
- 1:44:37Speaker 2: working life. These are not entitlement programs. They're earned benefits
- 1:44:44Speaker 2: is what you call them. Well, guess what? Like I
- 1:44:47Speaker 2: said to you, if you hate your job, go find
- 1:44:49Speaker 2: another job with benefits. There's plenty of them out there.
- 1:44:52Speaker 2: You're not tied to your employer. Or go buy them
- 1:44:55Speaker 2: on your own. What's the problem?
- 1:45:00Speaker 11: So you're saying that when somebody who wants to start
- 1:45:06Speaker 11: a business but can't do so because they can't afford
- 1:45:09Speaker 11: the insurance premiums, that's a good thing?
- 1:45:12Speaker 2: I'm saying to you then they can't afford to start
- 1:45:13Speaker 2: a business. I don't believe everybody that wants to start
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: a business can afford to start a business. There's expenses
- 1:45:20Speaker 2: involved in starting a business. Liability insurance, buying equipment, learning
- 1:45:25Speaker 2: what you're going to do. If you can't afford any
- 1:45:27Speaker 2: of that stuff, then you can't start a business.
- 1:45:29Speaker 11: So you don't think there's any way to improve that?
- 1:45:31Speaker 11: You don't think there's any way to make things easier
- 1:45:34Speaker 11: for people?
- 1:45:35Speaker 2: No, I think it's a responsibility.
- 1:45:37Speaker 11: I mean, what you say is you want to lower
- 1:45:39Speaker 11: people's taxes so they can... spend more money. I mean,
- 1:45:43Speaker 11: that's what I'm saying. I'm saying let's spend less money
- 1:45:46Speaker 11: on health care so we all have more freedom to
- 1:45:48Speaker 11: do what we want to do.
- 1:45:49Speaker 2: But who's going to pay for your health care?
- 1:45:53Speaker 11: We all will.
- 1:45:54Speaker 2: Okay, so you're not going to spend less money.
- 1:45:57Speaker 11: Just like we all do right now.
- 1:45:58Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not going to spend less money. You're
- 1:46:00Speaker 2: going to tax the living hell out of people to
- 1:46:02Speaker 2: be able to pay for it.
- 1:46:04Speaker 11: Well, you're already paying for it. It's not like.
- 1:46:07Speaker 2: If we switch to a Medicare for all system, it's
- 1:46:10Speaker 2: not like they add money on top. Just like you said,
- 1:46:13Speaker 2: your employer pays the bulk of it. It's one of
- 1:46:16Speaker 2: the perks of working. They pay the bulk of it,
- 1:46:18Speaker 2: and you might pay a third of it or.
- 1:46:20Speaker 11: Less than that. And the reason employers like– I mean,
- 1:46:24Speaker 11: I don't know any employers who like doing it, but
- 1:46:26Speaker 11: the reason that system is set up is because that
- 1:46:29Speaker 11: locks people into their job. That's just one of the
- 1:46:32Speaker 11: tools they use against it.
- 1:46:33Speaker 2: Not necessarily. You can go get another job with health
- 1:46:35Speaker 2: care benefits. They're not the only employer that offers health
- 1:46:38Speaker 2: care benefits. There's plenty of other people that.
- 1:46:41Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, most places have, like, one or two
- 1:46:44Speaker 11: insurers that you could really use in your area. You know,
- 1:46:47Speaker 11: I mean, every employer picks a different plan. I mean,
- 1:46:50Speaker 11: that's the other thing. You get subject to whatever, you know,
- 1:46:54Speaker 11: some operations manager at your company decides is what plan
- 1:46:58Speaker 11: you're going to do.
- 1:46:58Speaker 2: That's correct.
- 1:46:59Speaker 11: And they don't pick the plan to benefit the employees.
- 1:47:03Speaker 11: They pick the cheapest plan they can. and hope that
- 1:47:07Speaker 11: their employees don't complain about it.
- 1:47:09Speaker 2: Well, then go get a job somewhere else. I don't
- 1:47:13Speaker 2: think they all do that. There is a cost to
- 1:47:16Speaker 2: how much it costs per month, and there are budgets
- 1:47:19Speaker 2: involved in companies to deal with it. I mean, so
- 1:47:22Speaker 2: that's the reality. You act like you're trapped. You're a
- 1:47:25Speaker 2: prisoner where you work, and you're not. If you're that
- 1:47:29Speaker 2: disgusted by it, then, as I say, go open your
- 1:47:32Speaker 2: own business and go buy Obamacare. You can go do that.
- 1:47:37Speaker 11: Oh, yeah, I've done that. I used to be on Obamacare.
- 1:47:41Speaker 2: When I owned my own company.
- 1:47:42Speaker 16: There you go.
- 1:47:42Speaker 2: And guess what? On Obamacare, they say, here's this plan.
- 1:47:46Speaker 2: You can get this plan or this plan or this plan. Well,
- 1:47:49Speaker 2: what's the difference? Well, one has a higher deductible than
- 1:47:53Speaker 2: the other one. And, oh, by the way, the cost
- 1:47:55Speaker 2: of them. If you want this one, it's going to
- 1:47:57Speaker 2: cost you more than that one.
- 1:47:59Speaker 11: It's just like you were talking about with the former
- 1:48:01Speaker 11: caller there, like, Now, why would you pick a Medicare
- 1:48:05Speaker 11: Advantage plan?
- 1:48:06Speaker 16: Right.
- 1:48:07Speaker 11: You want to pick the gold standard.
- 1:48:09Speaker 2: I'll tell you why some people do.
- 1:48:10Speaker 4: Why would we offer.
- 1:48:11Speaker 11: Less than gold standard plans to people?
- 1:48:13Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you why. Because some people say, I
- 1:48:15Speaker 2: don't want to pay the high cost of a Plan
- 1:48:19Speaker 2: G out of my Social Security check. Maybe their Social
- 1:48:22Speaker 2: Security check is $ 2, 000 a month, and they'll go on
- 1:48:27Speaker 2: a Medicare Advantage plan because they don't have to have
- 1:48:30Speaker 2: that big amount taken out of their checkbook to pay
- 1:48:33Speaker 2: a Plan G. So there are economic reasons.
- 1:48:37Speaker 11: This is exactly what I mean. You're forcing people to
- 1:48:40Speaker 11: make these decisions about their life. I mean, I 100%
- 1:48:43Speaker 11: agree with you. You have to make compromises on how
- 1:48:46Speaker 11: much your income is, what you can spend. Obviously, I
- 1:48:50Speaker 11: get all that, but what you're negotiating over is your
- 1:48:55Speaker 11: access to life-saving care. It's not like, hey, I want
- 1:48:59Speaker 11: to spend a TV versus maybe I want new tires
- 1:49:02Speaker 11: on my truck. It's Am I going to risk catastrophic
- 1:49:08Speaker 11: health care that could ruin my family's financial viability?
- 1:49:12Speaker 2: It depends. There's usually health care, it's called maximum out-of-pocket
- 1:49:18Speaker 2: on deductibles. I mean, there's some pretty standard caveats on
- 1:49:21Speaker 2: most of these plans that you have. I mean, it's just,
- 1:49:26Speaker 2: if you want a cheaper monthly premium on Obamacare, then
- 1:49:29Speaker 2: you take more of the risk. But that's going into it.
- 1:49:32Speaker 2: You know it going into it. You said you were
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: on it. I mean, that's so you want to spend
- 1:49:36Speaker 2: less monthly? Well, then you take on more of the
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: risk involved, just like in any plan. I mean, these
- 1:49:43Speaker 2: are personal responsibility things. You think everybody should.
- 1:49:46Speaker 7: Be given it.
- 1:49:47Speaker 11: The elderly don't have to make those choices.
- 1:49:49Speaker 2: Well, they got to make choices. Elderly have a choice.
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: You can either have standard Medicare or you can have
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: Medicare Advantage. If you go on standard Medicare, you can
- 1:49:56Speaker 2: have Plan G or Plan N. Even a Plan G
- 1:50:00Speaker 2: high deductible. There are choices that you can make when
- 1:50:02Speaker 2: you go on Medicare that the elderly make. And that's
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: why we have a yearly review period coming up October
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: 15th through December 7th. And you should review it every
- 1:50:12Speaker 2: single year. You should never ignore that. I always tell
- 1:50:15Speaker 2: people I do a program there Sunday morning with the
- 1:50:17Speaker 2: guys at Yost Insurance. They only deal with Medicare. It
- 1:50:21Speaker 2: doesn't cost you to go there. They review it for free, 100% free.
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: We'll review what you're doing and what your options are.
- 1:50:29Speaker 2: And it's people that are knowledgeable about it.
- 1:50:31Speaker 11: I mean, I guess to kind of bring it back
- 1:50:35Speaker 11: to what I was saying, like, you know, most Americans
- 1:50:40Speaker 11: think our health care is way too expensive. It's inefficient.
- 1:50:43Speaker 11: It doesn't work properly. And so that's why they would
- 1:50:48Speaker 11: vote for somebody like a Democratic Socialist who's proposing a
- 1:50:51Speaker 11: Medicare-for-all system like Abdullah Saeed. That's what the majority of
- 1:50:57Speaker 11: the globe exists on. And all those people prefer it.
- 1:51:02Speaker 11: And when you compare what they have against what Americans have...
- 1:51:06Speaker 11: Almost everyone would choose what they have.
- 1:51:08Speaker 2: I don't agree with that at all.
- 1:51:09Speaker 11: But we don't get that choice.
- 1:51:10Speaker 2: I would never choose that. I would never choose it. Well, yeah,
- 1:51:15Speaker 2: you're propagandized. No, I'm not propagandized. I went to my
- 1:51:18Speaker 2: doctor yesterday. I called in the morning, and I was
- 1:51:23Speaker 2: there at 9 o'clock. So good luck with that in Canada.
- 1:51:27Speaker 11: You don't think people do that in Canada?
- 1:51:29Speaker 5: No.
- 1:51:29Speaker 11: You don't think they do that in France?
- 1:51:30Speaker 2: I think it's very difficult, quite frankly. I think it's
- 1:51:34Speaker 2: quite difficult the amount of time you'd wait to get
- 1:51:36Speaker 2: a knee replacement or some of the procedures that go
- 1:51:38Speaker 2: on in this country.
- 1:51:41Speaker 11: So the people who come here from Europe and things
- 1:51:44Speaker 11: like that and they get surprise bills, you think they
- 1:51:50Speaker 11: actually think it's worth it because they got to see
- 1:51:51Speaker 11: the doctor a little faster?
- 1:51:53Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they come here. Why don't you ask them?
- 1:51:56Speaker 2: I'll be right back after this.
- 1:52:01Speaker 12: I heart radio.
- 1:52:03Speaker 3: I'm Dr.
- 1:52:03Speaker 24: Cheryl Figliano with this.
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: And talk station 570 WKBN.
- 1:52:06Speaker 12: 524 September 29th, 76 degrees. You're on air.
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: Hello.
- 1:52:08Speaker 7: I hear him.
- 1:52:08Speaker 12: Back on hold.
- 1:52:08Speaker 2: You're on air.
- 1:52:09Speaker 10: Yes.
- 1:52:09Speaker 2: Unknown caller.
- 1:52:10Speaker 6: First.
- 1:52:29Speaker 13: First time caller, first time today.
- 1:52:31Speaker 2: You sound like a guy that calls, we call him
- 1:52:34Speaker 2: the unknown caller. You sound a lot like him. He's
- 1:52:37Speaker 2: always got to go, though. He's always in a hurry,
- 1:52:39Speaker 2: and I don't know why.
- 1:52:40Speaker 17: Well, this is first time today, that's all.
- 1:52:43Speaker 2: Oh, this is the unknown caller. First time caller today, gotcha.
- 1:52:47Speaker 13: Hey, you want to talk about retirement, cars and trucks, Medicaid?
- 1:52:53Speaker 20: I've been listening to the.
- 1:52:54Speaker 17: Show, and I called up, and I'm like, what do
- 1:52:56Speaker 17: you want to talk.
- 1:52:57Speaker 7: About, Ronny?
- 1:52:58Speaker 2: I give advice to the lovelorn, too, if you've got
- 1:53:00Speaker 2: any issues.
- 1:53:03Speaker 17: Yeah, well, there might be some sad saps out there.
- 1:53:07Speaker 17: All right, so I'll pick a subject, all right?
- 1:53:11Speaker 2: I can hardly wait.
- 1:53:13Speaker 13: All right, so you're talking about how the whole Medicaid
- 1:53:18Speaker 13: thing where, you know, well, first of.
- 1:53:20Speaker 4: All, Obamacare.
- 1:53:21Speaker 17: Remember Obamacare?
- 1:53:23Speaker 4: If you want to keep your doctor, you keep your doctor.
- 1:53:25Speaker 17: You want to keep your, you know.
- 1:53:27Speaker 13: Medicare, I mean, your insurance, you keep your insurance.
- 1:53:31Speaker 17: That didn't happen.
- 1:53:31Speaker 12: Oops.
- 1:53:34Speaker 11: Oops, yeah.
- 1:53:35Speaker 9: Hey, but.
- 1:53:38Speaker 13: Creation has, like, the best plan. It's called survival of
- 1:53:44Speaker 13: the fittest. You know, if you want something, you've got
- 1:53:48Speaker 13: to earn it. Just like you said, you know, your
- 1:53:52Speaker 13: dad said, first grade, Everybody is the same until the
- 1:53:56Speaker 13: school bell.
- 1:53:56Speaker 4: Rings, you know?
- 1:53:57Speaker 2: All men are created equal until the first school bell rings, right.
- 1:54:01Speaker 17: I mean, you know, you've got to work for it.
- 1:54:04Speaker 13: You can't just sit at home and wait for the
- 1:54:06Speaker 13: government to pay your bills. And, like, the drug prices.
- 1:54:14Speaker 2: Why would you want to do anything if you can
- 1:54:17Speaker 2: sit at home and somebody else covers everything? I mean,
- 1:54:21Speaker 2: socialism only says... socialism says, oh, we're going to take
- 1:54:25Speaker 2: from you and give it to this person over here.
- 1:54:29Speaker 2: But wait a minute, they didn't put the same effort in.
- 1:54:31Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. So it takes away the incentive from people.
- 1:54:37Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 1:54:39Speaker 13: Like, yeah, the creation, like I said, the survival of
- 1:54:45Speaker 13: the fittest. I don't know, if you don't make your
- 1:54:48Speaker 13: own way through life, how do you have any pride
- 1:54:50Speaker 13: in yourself? You know, How do you just sit back
- 1:54:53Speaker 13: and wait for handouts like the socialism that these young
- 1:54:58Speaker 13: kids are working on today?
- 1:55:01Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 1:55:02Speaker 2: It doesn't work. I mean, it doesn't work anywhere. And
- 1:55:05Speaker 2: they seem to think this is the answer here. Well,
- 1:55:08Speaker 2: good luck. I mean, once these guys, I mean, take
- 1:55:12Speaker 2: a look at this Mondami. I mean, what do they
- 1:55:15Speaker 2: usually want to do? This is the same MO. Well,
- 1:55:18Speaker 2: they want to take from these people here and tax
- 1:55:20Speaker 2: the living hell out of them and give it to
- 1:55:22Speaker 2: these people over here. Well, guess what happens to the
- 1:55:25Speaker 2: people you're taxing the hell out of?
- 1:55:26Speaker 12: They leave.
- 1:55:28Speaker 2: They move.
- 1:55:28Speaker 4: Yeah, like New York and California.
- 1:55:32Speaker 17: Nobody's staying in there. Because you're paying all the bills,
- 1:55:36Speaker 17: you know?
- 1:55:36Speaker 13: If you go to a movie theater and you find
- 1:55:38Speaker 13: out you're paying for everybody's ticket and their popcorn.
- 1:55:42Speaker 17: You're like, I ain't coming back here anymore.
- 1:55:45Speaker 12: Right.
- 1:55:45Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:55:47Speaker 2: Exactly right.
- 1:55:49Speaker 13: But, yeah, retirement, though, all right?
- 1:55:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:55:56Speaker 13: I used to call off work sometimes when I was young,
- 1:56:00Speaker 13: and the guys would say.
- 1:56:02Speaker 17: Why did you call off? And I'd say, well, you know,
- 1:56:05Speaker 17: think about it.
- 1:56:06Speaker 13: When you get old, how much would you spend for
- 1:56:09Speaker 13: one day of your youth?
- 1:56:12Speaker 7: You know?
- 1:56:13Speaker 13: So I would call off while I was young and,
- 1:56:16Speaker 13: you know, I had fun. I didn't disrespect the employer, but,
- 1:56:20Speaker 13: you know, this is time with family and to have
- 1:56:23Speaker 13: fun when the kids were small.
- 1:56:25Speaker 17: So, I mean, that makes sense, right?
- 1:56:27Speaker 2: It was like a mental health day.
- 1:56:32Speaker 16: Yeah.
- 1:56:32Speaker 13: And there's a song, I can't remember who sings it,
- 1:56:36Speaker 13: but I think it's a girl.
- 1:56:39Speaker 17: Not like me.
- 1:56:40Speaker 4: I'm a man, Ronnie.
- 1:56:41Speaker 17: Everybody knows it.
- 1:56:42Speaker 13: But she says, I could work my life away, but why?
- 1:56:47Speaker 13: You know, I got better things to do before I die.
- 1:56:49Speaker 13: You know, like some of these people that just work
- 1:56:52Speaker 13: and work and work until they.
- 1:56:53Speaker 17: Die, you're like, well, you know.
- 1:56:56Speaker 2: Well, it depends what you want out of life. A
- 1:56:59Speaker 2: lot of doctors work from morning to late at night.
- 1:57:02Speaker 2: I mean, and people get upset because they make a
- 1:57:04Speaker 2: lot of money or they drive a nice car. But
- 1:57:07Speaker 2: they're rounding in the hospital. Stand by. It's the unknown caller.
- 1:57:12Speaker 2: I'll wrap up with him and move on in just
- 1:57:14Speaker 2: a minute. News Radio 570 WKVN. Breaking news.
- 1:57:17Speaker 21: Caleb Flynn has been convicted of murdering his wife in
- 1:57:24Speaker 21: their Tip City home back in February.
- 1:57:27Speaker 24: The prosecution said Flynn killed her. because he wanted to
- 1:57:30Speaker 24: be free to marry his mistress. Flynn had claimed an
- 1:57:34Speaker 24: intruder killed her while the two slept in different rooms.
- 1:57:38Speaker 24: We are awaiting sentencing. In other news, an Ohio woman
- 1:57:42Speaker 24: had the wrong leg amputated in a surgery gone wrong
- 1:57:45Speaker 24: and is now suing several health care providers in Washington County.
- 1:57:49Speaker 24: Sharon Jax was scheduled to have her lower right leg amputated,
- 1:57:54Speaker 24: but got out of surgery with her lower left leg gone.
- 1:57:57Speaker 24: She still ended up having the correct leg amputated at
- 1:57:59Speaker 24: another time, so now she's a double amputee. Jack's lawyer
- 1:58:03Speaker 24: has stated there is simply no excuse and that it
- 1:58:06Speaker 24: is a complete and total failure by medical professionals when
- 1:58:09Speaker 24: it comes to an incorrect amputation.
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- 1:58:29Speaker 1: Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
- 1:58:33Speaker 2: Okay, I thought the point I was trying to make
- 1:58:36Speaker 2: with you is it's... A lot of people that are
- 1:58:40Speaker 2: successful in life, they work a lot. I mean, I
- 1:58:43Speaker 2: look at physicians around in the morning at the hospital,
- 1:58:47Speaker 2: go to their office or do surgery and then round
- 1:58:51Speaker 2: at night. They put in long days. And they make
- 1:58:55Speaker 2: a lot of money. Look at a lot of guys
- 1:58:57Speaker 2: that are in business. They work from morning till night,
- 1:59:00Speaker 2: roofing houses and doing stuff. I mean, it's just a way.
- 1:59:03Speaker 2: It depends what you want out of life. Let's put
- 1:59:05Speaker 2: it that way. Because what you put in is what
- 1:59:07Speaker 2: you get out.
- 1:59:08Speaker 13: Just like Elon Musk, you know, he enjoys what he's doing,
- 1:59:11Speaker 13: and money doesn't matter to him.
- 1:59:13Speaker 17: Can I change the subject real quick?
- 1:59:16Speaker 13: I just heard a story on your newscast that said
- 1:59:19Speaker 13: that a woman had the wrong leg amputated and then
- 1:59:25Speaker 13: later had the right leg, you know. I mean, that's
- 1:59:29Speaker 13: why I always carry a magic marker in the surgery,
- 1:59:33Speaker 13: and I say, you know, don't cut off this leg,
- 1:59:36Speaker 13: you know, with my magic marker.
- 1:59:40Speaker 2: It sounds to me, though, like she doesn't have a
- 1:59:41Speaker 2: leg to stand on.
- 1:59:43Speaker 11: Oh, that's a good one.
- 1:59:44Speaker 17: I'll give it to you.
- 1:59:46Speaker 13: But if you're a doctor and you cut off the
- 1:59:49Speaker 13: wrong leg, then she only has one.
- 1:59:51Speaker 17: Oh, wait a minute. She doesn't have any.
- 1:59:54Speaker 7: Right. Right.
- 1:59:55Speaker 2: That's a big mistake. I wonder if there's going to
- 1:59:58Speaker 2: be a big lawsuit there. I'm going to go with yes.
- 2:00:01Speaker 17: I'm thinking, yeah.
- 2:00:02Speaker 2: Hey, guess what?
- 2:00:03Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 2:00:04Speaker 16: No, no, no.
- 2:00:05Speaker 7: Wait.
- 2:00:05Speaker 17: One more thing.
- 2:00:06Speaker 4: All right.
- 2:00:06Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 2:00:08Speaker 13: Like the guy was talking about fixing his own vehicles,
- 2:00:11Speaker 13: you know? Like, if you want to replace your headlight
- 2:00:14Speaker 13: on your, you know, new F-150, it's going to be
- 2:00:17Speaker 13: like $ 500 just for the thing instead of an $ 8
- 2:00:20Speaker 13: light bulb.
- 2:00:21Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, because they're LED. Or more than that.
- 2:00:24Speaker 6: All right.
- 2:00:26Speaker 5: Hey, Ronnie.
- 2:00:27Speaker 9: What?
- 2:00:28Speaker 4: I'm going to beat you to it. I got to go.
- 2:00:30Speaker 2: He's always got to go. You're on the air.
- 2:00:34Speaker 4: Good evening, Ron. How are you?
- 2:00:36Speaker 2: I'm holding the fort down. Reinforcements have come in, ladies
- 2:00:39Speaker 2: and gentlemen, live on a satellite phone from an undisclosed
- 2:00:42Speaker 2: location where only General Johnson Jameson knows where he's at.
- 2:00:46Speaker 2: Only one man knows the exact coordinates of the undisclosed location.
- 2:00:51Speaker 2: It's Johnson Jameson. But here he is, G2.
- 2:00:54Speaker 4: Hello. Good evening. I'm actually in the mobile unit, so
- 2:01:00Speaker 4: I'm out on the prowl.
- 2:01:01Speaker 2: Oh, mobile command base.
- 2:01:02Speaker 3: Yes.
- 2:01:04Speaker 7: Yes.
- 2:01:05Speaker 5: Yes.
- 2:01:05Speaker 2: You were going to talk a little bit about health care.
- 2:01:09Speaker 4: Well, first, the thing about working, you know, I know
- 2:01:11Speaker 4: a lot of people that on their deathbed think, you know,
- 2:01:14Speaker 4: I should have worked more because they just didn't work enough.
- 2:01:17Speaker 4: And a lot of people say, well, gee, I work
- 2:01:19Speaker 4: too much. And, you know, the great thing is finding
- 2:01:22Speaker 4: a team you love, getting a mission you think is important,
- 2:01:25Speaker 4: whatever that is, whether it's in tech or manufacturing or health,
- 2:01:28Speaker 4: whatever it is, something you care about, and then work
- 2:01:31Speaker 4: it hard and get good at it. But then when
- 2:01:33Speaker 4: you're off, be with that family or whoever it is
- 2:01:36Speaker 4: you care about and play hard and do fun things.
- 2:01:40Speaker 4: I mean, I think taking a day off to go
- 2:01:42Speaker 4: play with the kids is a very legitimate thing to do,
- 2:01:45Speaker 4: assuming you're cranking when you're there, right? I mean, so
- 2:01:49Speaker 4: I don't think work has to be this sort of slaving,
- 2:01:53Speaker 4: boring thing, but it depends on not just what you're
- 2:01:57Speaker 4: doing but who you're doing it with. When you're on
- 2:01:59Speaker 4: a high-performance team, There's nothing like it, and it's so
- 2:02:02Speaker 4: much fun. But, you know, maybe there's a middle there
- 2:02:08Speaker 4: where we can really thrive.
- 2:02:10Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely. There's got to be, because life does end.
- 2:02:14Speaker 2: It doesn't go on forever.
- 2:02:15Speaker 4: I agree. Right, but great work is great stuff, but
- 2:02:21Speaker 4: it's got to matter. So on the healthcare thing, I really....
- 2:02:27Speaker 9: This kind of conversation all the time is happening because
- 2:02:30Speaker 9: we've got a healthcare system that is deeply troubled.
- 2:02:33Speaker 4: It is in real trouble. You know, as we've talked
- 2:02:36Speaker 4: about many times, we're paying two times the amount that's
- 2:02:39Speaker 4: paid by many of the other developed nations. But the idea, then,
- 2:02:43Speaker 4: of going to full government-paid and government-controlled healthcare, it's only
- 2:02:47Speaker 4: a great idea until you have it.
- 2:02:50Speaker 7: And.
- 2:02:51Speaker 4: I remember looking at data a couple years ago in
- 2:02:53Speaker 4: the UK. A million people waiting to get appointments, and
- 2:02:57Speaker 4: a million appointments were missed. because it didn't cost anything,
- 2:03:02Speaker 4: so people would schedule appointments and not go. And the
- 2:03:05Speaker 4: people that needed health care, and especially unique testing in Canada,
- 2:03:09Speaker 4: this is a problem, or a unique procedure like you mentioned,
- 2:03:12Speaker 4: that can take forever. So that's why people from other
- 2:03:15Speaker 4: countries come here for health care. And anybody that lives
- 2:03:18Speaker 4: in Ohio that's been up to the Cleveland Clinic, I mean,
- 2:03:21Speaker 4: that is not an Ohio medical facility. That is a
- 2:03:24Speaker 4: global medical facility, and that's why you see those 747s
- 2:03:27Speaker 4: backed up along that fence at the airport. You know,
- 2:03:31Speaker 4: those are family planes. And they're coming here to get
- 2:03:33Speaker 4: health care they can't get, even with their money in
- 2:03:37Speaker 4: their own country. So, you know, we're in this weird
- 2:03:39Speaker 4: place where we've got places like the clinic that could
- 2:03:42Speaker 4: do miracles, but then we've got this bizarre government thing.
- 2:03:45Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw the note about Fauci today.
- 2:03:48Speaker 4: These guys aerosolized Ebola, and then were hiding the fact
- 2:03:55Speaker 4: that people that were vaccinated were performing worse or having
- 2:04:00Speaker 4: a worse experience than the unvaccinated. So Fauci's order, as
- 2:04:04Speaker 4: a government official has the power to do, is hide
- 2:04:07Speaker 4: the data. Don't tell anyone that the vaccine not only
- 2:04:10Speaker 4: doesn't help, it makes it worse.
- 2:04:11Speaker 2: And this is for Ebola?
- 2:04:16Speaker 4: Yeah, these idiots, they aerosolized Ebola and then and then
- 2:04:21Speaker 4: tested it against vaccinated, unvaccinated, and found out that the
- 2:04:24Speaker 4: unvaccinated were performing better. So they've got emails that were
- 2:04:28Speaker 4: just released that show this lunatic, Fauci, telling people to
- 2:04:35Speaker 4: hide the evidence because he doesn't want to undermine confidence
- 2:04:38Speaker 4: in vaccines. Well, listen, if you've got a car, like,
- 2:04:42Speaker 4: you remember there was a car that GM made many
- 2:04:44Speaker 4: years ago that rolled over a lot and killed a
- 2:04:47Speaker 4: lot of people?
- 2:04:49Speaker 9: Well.
- 2:04:49Speaker 4: Probably better to let them know that so they buy
- 2:04:52Speaker 4: a different car. I don't understand this vaccine religion where
- 2:04:56Speaker 4: we have to be dedicated to them and pretend they work,
- 2:04:59Speaker 4: pretend they don't have any side effects, pretend there's no downside.
- 2:05:02Speaker 4: All these autistic kids just happened because, I don't know,
- 2:05:05Speaker 4: suddenly we started dropping kids on their head or something
- 2:05:07Speaker 4: and I mean, this is insanity, but that's what you
- 2:05:10Speaker 4: get when you let a bureaucrat have power. And that's
- 2:05:13Speaker 4: why government-controlled health care is a really bad idea. That's
- 2:05:17Speaker 4: the health care quality side. You know, these people many
- 2:05:20Speaker 4: times in government are psychopaths and corrupt. You know, you
- 2:05:23Speaker 4: think about all the people in government taking money from
- 2:05:25Speaker 4: pharma related to the intellectual property for the drugs they oversee.
- 2:05:32Speaker 4: So then they get a financial incentive... to let bad
- 2:05:36Speaker 4: drugs go out of the market and they do it
- 2:05:39Speaker 4: and in this is a lot of money for them
- 2:05:41Speaker 4: it's not a little bit so that you may remember
- 2:05:44Speaker 4: a couple years ago about you with that in the
- 2:05:46Speaker 4: senate hearing to disclose who is getting paid and how
- 2:05:49Speaker 4: much and he said the law allows us to get
- 2:05:52Speaker 4: this money and does not require that we did it's
- 2:05:55Speaker 4: gloves who's paying us or how much we're getting so
- 2:05:59Speaker 4: i'm not telling you and there's no government oversight no
- 2:06:02Speaker 4: cut congressional oversight or any oversight of who in the
- 2:06:06Speaker 4: government is getting paid by pharma, on what products, and
- 2:06:09Speaker 4: what their role is in promoting and protecting, defending that product,
- 2:06:13Speaker 4: whether it's effective or dangerous, or ineffective or not dangerous.
- 2:06:18Speaker 4: So you just can't hand your life to the government
- 2:06:21Speaker 4: and say, please, daddy, take care of me, because it
- 2:06:25Speaker 4: ain't your daddy, it's the government.
- 2:06:28Speaker 2: In this country, we have freedom. We have personal responsibility
- 2:06:31Speaker 2: and there are consequences to it. That's what should motivate you.
- 2:06:34Speaker 2: Fear of failure. How do you want to live? What
- 2:06:36Speaker 2: effort do you want to put forth? It's called freedom.
- 2:06:39Speaker 2: To a degree. And capitalism.
- 2:06:44Speaker 4: But we don't have capitalism and we don't have freedom
- 2:06:47Speaker 4: when it comes to health care because the government dictates
- 2:06:49Speaker 4: so much of what happens. And then they've allowed these anti-competitive,
- 2:06:56Speaker 4: non-capitalist markets to evolve where the person you're paying your
- 2:07:02Speaker 4: health care premium to might also be then running your
- 2:07:05Speaker 4: pharma benefit manager, selling you the pharmaceuticals, and actually providing
- 2:07:09Speaker 4: you the health care, whether you know it or not
- 2:07:11Speaker 4: is another thing. But remember, Johns Hopkins notified UnitedHealthcare that
- 2:07:17Speaker 4: they were withdrawing from United's program because United was redirecting
- 2:07:23Speaker 4: all the profitable business internal to their own assets, their
- 2:07:26Speaker 4: own service providers, and pushing the unprofitable stuff to these
- 2:07:29Speaker 4: people like Johns Hopkins. And Johns Hopkins said, I'm not
- 2:07:32Speaker 4: taking any more of your unprofitable business. I'm out. So
- 2:07:36Speaker 4: this system is broken, and this Obamacare thing created such
- 2:07:40Speaker 4: a mess. Here's one of the big problems. You know,
- 2:07:43Speaker 4: you talked about with that gentleman starting a business. Well,
- 2:07:46Speaker 4: when you get a health care benefit from your employer,
- 2:07:48Speaker 4: that's tax-free. You don't pay for that, right? The benefit
- 2:07:51Speaker 4: part that they pay for.
- 2:07:53Speaker 7: Is not taxed.
- 2:07:54Speaker 4: But if you pay for that outside, if you say,
- 2:07:56Speaker 4: I don't like my employer's plan, to buy my own,
- 2:07:59Speaker 4: you don't get a tax deduction for that. So there's
- 2:08:02Speaker 4: a massive tax incentive for large corporations to be providing
- 2:08:07Speaker 4: health care and for consumers to work for large corporations
- 2:08:10Speaker 4: that have the most buying power.
- 2:08:12Speaker 7: This is insanity.
- 2:08:14Speaker 4: We don't do our auto insurance or our home insurance
- 2:08:16Speaker 4: that way. This is not wise. We need to fix
- 2:08:20Speaker 4: the tax system so that if you're an individual or
- 2:08:23Speaker 4: a small business owner, you can have the same tax
- 2:08:26Speaker 4: advantage with health care premiums and costs that the employed have.
- 2:08:32Speaker 4: That means health savings accounts and deductibility for your premiums
- 2:08:36Speaker 4: so that you start to have the freedom to shop around.
- 2:08:39Speaker 4: And these anti-competitive behaviors like lack of transparency. You know,
- 2:08:43Speaker 4: in a capitalist system, there's a natural tension between the
- 2:08:48Speaker 4: buyer and the seller, right? The buyer wants a better deal.
- 2:08:51Speaker 4: The seller wants a better price. And it goes back
- 2:08:53Speaker 4: and forth. Competition helps make that work, but not in
- 2:08:57Speaker 4: health care, because you have to buy whatever your employer
- 2:09:00Speaker 4: gives you. You can't afford to do it yourself with
- 2:09:01Speaker 4: the tax penalties and the cost of buying on your own, right?
- 2:09:06Speaker 4: You're trapped. You really are trapped. And And so this
- 2:09:10Speaker 4: whole system has to be reworked. And there are just
- 2:09:12Speaker 4: a few things that could do that. We should begin
- 2:09:15Speaker 4: changing the incentives so that you have an equal freedom
- 2:09:19Speaker 4: to buy your own in an open market, not an
- 2:09:22Speaker 4: Obama market, an open market where there is true competition
- 2:09:26Speaker 4: and transparency. If we brought capitalism to health care, you
- 2:09:30Speaker 4: would see immediately better service, better pricing. That's what would happen.
- 2:09:35Speaker 4: So that's why we're so screwed up. But people think
- 2:09:39Speaker 4: that these government-supplied systems like Canada has are this panacea,
- 2:09:44Speaker 4: mostly because they're not in it. But, you know, I
- 2:09:48Speaker 4: was on a bus to a rental car place at
- 2:09:50Speaker 4: LAX one day, and I'm talking to this Canadian woman.
- 2:09:53Speaker 4: She's very boastful about how it's free and all this stuff.
- 2:09:57Speaker 4: I got about three, four questions in, and she said, yeah,
- 2:09:59Speaker 4: you're right, it sucks. It's only good for, you know,
- 2:10:02Speaker 4: for like.
- 2:10:04Speaker 4: Minor problems. Otherwise, we wait forever. It's a problem. So
- 2:10:10Speaker 4: you might have to go to Mexico or India or
- 2:10:12Speaker 4: the United States to get the health care you need
- 2:10:15Speaker 4: if it's important to your life. So that government-supplied system
- 2:10:19Speaker 4: sounds great until you start actually... living in it and
- 2:10:24Speaker 4: and of course the cost is outrageous because you've got
- 2:10:27Speaker 4: to pay the government attacks the government that takes its
- 2:10:30Speaker 4: cut then it goes out and buys your health care
- 2:10:33Speaker 4: but wait there's no tension between the buyer and the
- 2:10:35Speaker 4: seller there the government's dictating everything it's a horrible idea
- 2:10:40Speaker 4: so again what we really need is to restore a
- 2:10:44Speaker 4: capitalist system in health care that allows competition and transparency
- 2:10:48Speaker 4: where we're spending our own money you know, so that
- 2:10:51Speaker 4: we have to buy right. So we're thinking about where
- 2:10:54Speaker 4: we're going, about the quality of care, but also the cost.
- 2:10:57Speaker 4: And where the system gets re-energized. so we can continue
- 2:11:01Speaker 4: to get the miracles that a place like the clinic
- 2:11:04Speaker 4: can deliver, but we're not trapped in it. And the
- 2:11:07Speaker 4: idea that we saw during COVID, that the bureaucrats are
- 2:11:11Speaker 4: going to decide not just whether or not you can
- 2:11:13Speaker 4: get one treatment or another, the bureaucrats are going to
- 2:11:16Speaker 4: decide you have to use something that's dangerous like remdesivir
- 2:11:20Speaker 4: rather than get an effective, safe treatment, that's just not
- 2:11:25Speaker 4: acceptable to let a bureaucrat have that kind of power.
- 2:11:30Speaker 4: And so if we don't fix this, we're going to
- 2:11:33Speaker 4: continue to have these sort of conversations just go round
- 2:11:36Speaker 4: and round because we don't see a path out. Now,
- 2:11:39Speaker 4: why aren't our elected officials giving us a path out? Well,
- 2:11:43Speaker 4: because they get paid a lot of money by health
- 2:11:45Speaker 4: care providers, right? And think about a nonprofit. I don't
- 2:11:49Speaker 4: understand why they're nonprofit hospitals. I don't get this. So
- 2:11:52Speaker 4: if a nonprofit hospital buys a for-profit hospital, then all
- 2:11:56Speaker 4: the sudden that asset no longer pays property tax, and
- 2:11:59Speaker 4: all that gets dumped on the remainder of the populace. Why?
- 2:12:03Speaker 4: Why is that? Why isn't a property tax the same
- 2:12:07Speaker 4: burden to a for-profit and non-profit health care provider? This
- 2:12:12Speaker 4: is illogical. And then again, it doesn't have the same
- 2:12:16Speaker 4: pressure to drive down property taxes because there are people
- 2:12:20Speaker 4: that find a way out of paying them. So the
- 2:12:24Speaker 4: system's really broken. I think that gentleman was asking really
- 2:12:27Speaker 4: good ideas. But the answer is to make that health
- 2:12:30Speaker 4: care decision, your decision as a consumer, in an open
- 2:12:33Speaker 4: market with transparency and competition, where government isn't providing laws
- 2:12:38Speaker 4: and structures that crush competition and employers, and you're driven
- 2:12:44Speaker 4: to use your employer's plan, and the employer then dictates
- 2:12:47Speaker 4: what you get. It's just a broken system.
- 2:12:50Speaker 2: That it is.
- 2:12:52Speaker 7: But.
- 2:12:55Speaker 2: These guys with the Democratic Socialists, why do you think
- 2:12:58Speaker 2: that they're doing so well, according to that guy, in
- 2:13:02Speaker 2: some of those areas? I said to him, it depends
- 2:13:04Speaker 2: what area you go to. I mean, if you go
- 2:13:06Speaker 2: to New York, I suspect they will do well for
- 2:13:08Speaker 2: a period of time. But, you know, New York also
- 2:13:11Speaker 2: had Giuliani as mayor, and he did a really good
- 2:13:14Speaker 2: job at lowering crime and that kind of stuff. Bloomberg,
- 2:13:17Speaker 2: I mean, now they're just gone with craziness. Even Bill
- 2:13:21Speaker 2: Maher says the Democrats have just gone to the crazy been.
- 2:13:26Speaker 4: Well, and that's true, but if you go back to
- 2:13:29Speaker 4: that Mamdani race, remember who he was running against. So
- 2:13:34Speaker 4: Mamdani came in with a massive organization, lots of money,
- 2:13:37Speaker 4: good strategy, good comms, I mean, really effective campaigning. And
- 2:13:42Speaker 4: on the other side, was the Cuomo kid, you know,
- 2:13:45Speaker 4: the Mario's son, whatever, I can't remember his name.
- 2:13:47Speaker 21: Andrew.
- 2:13:47Speaker 4: But the Cuomo boy. Andrew. Yeah, that guy. Yeah, Andrew,
- 2:13:51Speaker 4: who showed up as the COVID czar in his state
- 2:13:54Speaker 4: because he's governor. So, of course, we look to the
- 2:13:56Speaker 4: governor to decide how we're going to get through COVID.
- 2:13:58Speaker 4: That's insane. And if you remember, he'd show up in
- 2:14:02Speaker 4: those meetings with those tight shirts on and those nipple
- 2:14:04Speaker 4: studs showing. That was bizarre.
- 2:14:07Speaker 2: And remember this. They were saying, there's your next president
- 2:14:10Speaker 2: right there, the guy that was– making these tough decisions
- 2:14:14Speaker 2: and handling everything right i mean they were really touting
- 2:14:17Speaker 2: him until the other.
- 2:14:18Speaker 4: Shoe drops and then and then he set up a
- 2:14:22Speaker 4: system where if you were a provider of of assistance
- 2:14:25Speaker 4: to elderly folks you couldn't get sued based on the
- 2:14:29Speaker 4: outcome of this covid thing they gave him a two
- 2:14:32Speaker 4: million dollar contribution for that and that that association did
- 2:14:37Speaker 4: And then, of course, they put the sick people in
- 2:14:39Speaker 4: with the healthy people in those facilities and killed tens
- 2:14:43Speaker 4: of thousands of elderly trapped in a facility where the
- 2:14:47Speaker 4: government said you can't see your family, your family can't
- 2:14:50Speaker 4: see you, you've got to take remdesivir, these lung-busting blowers,
- 2:14:55Speaker 4: the ventilators. And no one can make their own decisions.
- 2:15:00Speaker 4: And if you wanted to treat your family member with
- 2:15:02Speaker 4: something like One of the effective treatments, the steroids or
- 2:15:07Speaker 4: the hydroxychloroquine or whatever was working. You had to sneak
- 2:15:11Speaker 4: it in and not get caught. Remember when people were
- 2:15:14Speaker 4: smuggling in baked goods with treatment in them, and they
- 2:15:19Speaker 4: were sneaking in clothing, and they were hiding medicine in
- 2:15:22Speaker 4: the clothing because the hospital wasn't going to let you
- 2:15:24Speaker 4: have it, and the government was telling you you can't
- 2:15:27Speaker 4: have it? That's where we're going if we put more
- 2:15:30Speaker 4: government control over our health care. Now, Mamdani, coming back
- 2:15:33Speaker 4: to that for a minute, he's running against Mr. Nipple
- 2:15:36Speaker 4: Studs and Curtis Lewa, the cartoon character. Now, Curtis Lewa
- 2:15:41Speaker 4: did probably some really good things back in the day
- 2:15:44Speaker 4: with those berets and all that. But that's not really
- 2:15:47Speaker 4: a serious contender for the mayor of New York, right?
- 2:15:51Speaker 4: He doesn't have the experience, the training, the qualifications. He
- 2:15:54Speaker 4: doesn't have the issues-based understandings. So he's running as a
- 2:15:58Speaker 4: cartoon character. You've got then the guy that killed Grandma
- 2:16:01Speaker 4: running against an incredibly effective machine, the Mamdani campaign. Mamdani,
- 2:16:07Speaker 4: if you listen to the rhetoric that they were delivering
- 2:16:09Speaker 4: at the time, Mamdani sounded more America first than anyone else.
- 2:16:14Speaker 4: He was saying, I'm going to take care of you.
- 2:16:17Speaker 4: He wasn't saying, I'm going to turn this into an
- 2:16:19Speaker 4: Islamic state and bring in as many people from the
- 2:16:21Speaker 4: Middle East as I can. He was saying, I'm going
- 2:16:24Speaker 4: to address the issues that are the same issues that
- 2:16:27Speaker 4: got Donald Trump elected. Remember, Trump won the popular vote,
- 2:16:30Speaker 4: the Electoral College, and every swing state. The reason they're
- 2:16:35Speaker 4: stumbling now is that the Republican Party did not form
- 2:16:38Speaker 4: up around Donald Trump and force that America First agenda
- 2:16:43Speaker 4: through Congress and turn it into policy. In which case,
- 2:16:46Speaker 4: we would have seen the benefits to wages. We would
- 2:16:48Speaker 4: have seen the deportations. Not a million. It would have
- 2:16:51Speaker 4: been millions.
- 2:16:52Speaker 11: Right.
- 2:16:52Speaker 2: Hold that thought. Remember when you bought me that ivermectin
- 2:16:55Speaker 2: peanut butter sandwich? It's delicious.
- 2:16:57Speaker 7: Hang on.
- 2:16:57Speaker 5: Oh, yes.
- 2:17:01Speaker 12: Do you run a business? If so, KVN.
- 2:17:04Speaker 2: Why do you think Amy Acton and Sherrod Brown are
- 2:17:07Speaker 2: leading in Ohio? Sherrod Brown had a pretty good lead,
- 2:17:11Speaker 2: and Amy Acton even with a five- to six-point lead.
- 2:17:15Speaker 4: Well, you know, on the Acton one, I think people
- 2:17:18Speaker 4: are obviously missing the point that she's completely unprepared, unqualified,
- 2:17:22Speaker 4: and was horrible during COVID. And, of course, the way
- 2:17:25Speaker 4: the media pumped it up, they would probably have characterized
- 2:17:28Speaker 4: her as a hero here. for you know destroying small
- 2:17:32Speaker 4: business and implementing policies to kill people but but i
- 2:17:36Speaker 4: think she's got the benefit of never having really been
- 2:17:40Speaker 4: on the grill outside of that and and the media
- 2:17:43Speaker 4: being binder on that would be back i mean his
- 2:17:45Speaker 4: big problem is as i think which is made clear
- 2:17:48Speaker 4: h one b and in this statement he had that
- 2:17:51Speaker 4: he wants to bring in four million people into a
- 2:17:53Speaker 4: united states that are indeed into ohio and for some
- 2:17:56Speaker 4: reason and this is the logic of it they think
- 2:17:58Speaker 4: that the republicans in the legislature will be able to
- 2:18:02Speaker 4: contain any active but somehow wouldn't be able to contain
- 2:18:05Speaker 4: the background swami I think this is a terrible decision.
- 2:18:09Speaker 4: I'm not particularly happy with the choices, but this is
- 2:18:12Speaker 4: a terrible decision, and electing Acton is going to... I
- 2:18:16Speaker 4: don't think people fully understand the impact she could have
- 2:18:19Speaker 4: on that state. Now, you've also got, you know, the
- 2:18:22Speaker 4: Mike DeWines, who probably support Acton more than Ramaswamy because
- 2:18:27Speaker 4: they're sort of on the same team. Remember how those
- 2:18:29Speaker 4: two work together so well?
- 2:18:30Speaker 16: Yep.
- 2:18:31Speaker 4: I mean... So you've got this Republican thing where you've got,
- 2:18:35Speaker 4: you know, Karl Rove explaining how he's going to vote
- 2:18:38Speaker 4: for a Democrat for railroad commissioner in Texas because, you know,
- 2:18:41Speaker 4: we have to go for the best candidate. They're signaling
- 2:18:43Speaker 4: to people that they want you to vote for the
- 2:18:46Speaker 4: worst candidate so they can get control of their party back.
- 2:18:50Speaker 4: These establishment Republicans care about one thing, party control. And
- 2:18:54Speaker 4: implementing policy and all that isn't a way of their
- 2:18:57Speaker 4: wealth creation. So there's a problem there. But the truth
- 2:19:02Speaker 4: of the matter is you've got to roll with Vivek Ramaswamy,
- 2:19:05Speaker 4: and then you've got to lean on your legislators to
- 2:19:07Speaker 4: make sure you check him on anything related to mass
- 2:19:11Speaker 4: migration or immigration. But on economics, he should be much
- 2:19:15Speaker 4: better than an Amy Acton who has no concept of
- 2:19:18Speaker 4: economics at all. And, you know, we talked the other
- 2:19:21Speaker 4: day about how you're not getting big– construction projects that
- 2:19:26Speaker 4: are going to other states. Well, one of the reasons
- 2:19:28Speaker 4: is the way the state is not organized to attract
- 2:19:32Speaker 4: big investments, and that's the governor. You know, that's that
- 2:19:36Speaker 4: economic development agency. They focus on mass migration, as the
- 2:19:39Speaker 4: Democrats are, or they focus on creating opportunity.
- 2:19:44Speaker 9: Just like Indiana and.
- 2:19:46Speaker 4: Some other states, you know, the amazing turnaround in what
- 2:19:49Speaker 4: they call Locust, Locust U.S., Arkansas, and... Alabama and these
- 2:19:54Speaker 4: other states that have had massive investment because they've got
- 2:19:58Speaker 4: an environment that's attractive to business. And we're setting data
- 2:20:03Speaker 4: centers aside, which are just going to go everywhere because
- 2:20:05Speaker 4: they need to be really close to the people who
- 2:20:07Speaker 4: are being surveilled. And they need water and power, as
- 2:20:11Speaker 4: we've talked about at length. So I'm setting those aside.
- 2:20:13Speaker 4: That's a totally different animal. I'm talking about investments for profit.
- 2:20:17Speaker 4: And And so then with Sherrod Brown, the guy was
- 2:20:22Speaker 4: in for, what, 35 years? He voted right twice. He
- 2:20:26Speaker 4: supported every destructive policy. But right now these people are saying, hey,
- 2:20:30Speaker 4: the Republicans haven't implemented in 14 or 18 months the
- 2:20:33Speaker 4: agenda that I want. I forgot everything that happened during
- 2:20:36Speaker 4: the four years of the Biden administration because we're all
- 2:20:39Speaker 4: obsessed with, I don't know, football and, I don't know,
- 2:20:42Speaker 4: strip clubs. I don't know what people are doing. They
- 2:20:44Speaker 4: can't seem to focus on what's happening in government.
- 2:20:49Speaker 2: Have you ever seen him play football at a strip club, though?
- 2:20:52Speaker 2: It is really worth watching. I've got to break.
- 2:20:54Speaker 4: That's my next stop.
- 2:20:57Speaker 2: Thank you, G2. Appreciate it. Sean is next.