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Daniel Davis Deep Dive · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: It's 829 at 55 KRC, the talk station. I always
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  Speaker 1: look forward to this time of week. It's time for
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  Speaker 1: the alliterative of Daniel Davis Deep Dive, which podcast you
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  Speaker 1: can find wherever you find your podcasts. Daniel Davis Deep Dive,
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  Speaker 1: retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis, giving us his assessment of
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  Speaker 1: things military. Welcome back, my friend. It is always a
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  Speaker 1: real pleasure having you on the 55 KRC Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Always a delight to be here, Brian. Good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and we just dropped a bomb or two on
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  Speaker 1: Kesham Island. We'll get to that in a minute, talk
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  Speaker 1: about what's going on with the Iranian situation. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to bounce something off your head. Because a very,
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  Speaker 1: shall we say, someone who doesn't pay very close attention
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  Speaker 1: to politics, a dear, beloved friend of mine, called the
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  Speaker 1: other day, wanted to know about this concern that's spreading
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  Speaker 1: around the globe. We had, of course, America's military kicking
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  Speaker 1: off this new program to ensure that they can maintain
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  Speaker 1: the military bases for 90 days completely off the grid.
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  Speaker 1: So they generate their own power. They've got all enough
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  Speaker 1: to keep the base going for 90 days.
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  Speaker 2: You had the U.K.
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  Speaker 1: Come out with this 1,000-day plan telling the United Kingdom
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  Speaker 1: citizens to start preparing, you know, lay in some supplies, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: Our own government's been telling this for years, at least
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  Speaker 1: three days' worth of food and provisions to keep you
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  Speaker 1: even in a no-grid situation. Is there something specific that's
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  Speaker 1: going on out in the world? Because Glenn Beck put
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  Speaker 1: all these dots together, and I had done it a
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  Speaker 1: couple days prior to him with the U.K. and our
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  Speaker 1: military decision. But the idea of preparing and telling, and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's other European Union countries doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a specific threat they're concerned about, or is
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  Speaker 1: this just generally, well, the grid could easily get shut
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  Speaker 1: down by some nefarious actor. That's going to be a problem.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Iran, them saying that, you know, Katie barred
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  Speaker 1: the door. Nothing's barred. Anything that's American interest can be targeted.
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  Speaker 1: Are we worried about Iranians domestically? Do you have any
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  Speaker 1: response to that, Dan? Do you have any inside information
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  Speaker 1: about what the concern is, or is this just a
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  Speaker 1: legitimate coincidence that these warnings came out?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how much of a coincidence it is.
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  Speaker 2: I think that a good portion of this, my assessment
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  Speaker 2: is that this is the social media effect and that
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  Speaker 2: when somebody starts something in one place, they start reporting
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  Speaker 2: it and then you have the Glenn Becks putting together
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  Speaker 2: dots or at least claiming to, and all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden now everybody's, oh my God, and then now everybody's going,
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  Speaker 2: I've been inundated with phone calls from all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: friends asking this exact same question. I think that a
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  Speaker 2: good bit of this started When you look at the timing,
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  Speaker 2: when the announcement came that the U.S. said, hey, we
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  Speaker 2: want to have a 90-day self-sufficiency for all of our
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  Speaker 2: domestic military bases. And there's hundreds of these things, by
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  Speaker 2: the way. And people said, oh, something's coming. Something's about
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  Speaker 2: to happen. I know that they're supposed to go to
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  Speaker 2: fight in maybe Iran after the midterms. We better get ready. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the thing is, it will take between five and seven
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  Speaker 2: years to bring just the top 100 U.S. bases into
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  Speaker 2: conformity with that standard. So nothing's going to happen anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: And then you had the UK actually months ago, not
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  Speaker 2: even coordinated with this, but months before that, it's been
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  Speaker 2: telling them, oh, you've got to stock up. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's part of the European attempt to try to
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  Speaker 2: scare their population and to think, oh, my God, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have war, not with Iran, but with Russia.
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  Speaker 2: They're coming to get us, and so you have to
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  Speaker 2: get ready or whatever. And then I think this thing
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  Speaker 2: starts feeding on itself. If anything happens, three days of
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  Speaker 2: food and water or whatever is going to do absolutely nothing,
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  Speaker 2: And God help us if it's actually the elite trying
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  Speaker 2: to scare us all into saying, hey, something is coming,
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  Speaker 2: so you might as well get ready. But I just
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  Speaker 2: don't see it so far. I don't see any evidence
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  Speaker 2: that there's a threat to the U.S. homeland. Because right now,
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, when I first heard that comment about
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  Speaker 2: the U.S., I'm like, there's only two countries on this
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  Speaker 2: planet that can threaten our domestic bases, and that is
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  Speaker 2: missile strikes from Russia or from China. That's the only
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  Speaker 2: countries that have the capacity to do that. So right now,
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  Speaker 2: I think that Well, you can never eliminate the possibility
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  Speaker 2: of a terrorist strike or even a cyber attack or
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  Speaker 2: something like that anywhere in the United States at any time.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of getting the military ready, that's only for
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  Speaker 2: either an external strike against one of those two countries
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  Speaker 2: or somebody thinks maybe something's going to happen inside here,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to make sure our bases are protected
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  Speaker 2: if there's any kind of civil strife to keep the
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  Speaker 2: military bases up and operational. But that, again, that's five
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  Speaker 2: to seven years down the road, and about 150 billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars minimum necessary to facilitate and fund all that and
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff so i don't think anything
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  Speaker 2: near term from what i can.
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  Speaker 1: See okay i i that's why i knew you provide
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  Speaker 1: a thoughtful analysis on this and this is not me
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  Speaker 1: saying you shouldn't have some food and water laid in
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  Speaker 1: to be prepared because it hits the fan we had
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  Speaker 1: a windstorm come through here's a remnant of the hurricane
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  Speaker 1: power was up for a lot of neighborhoods for 10
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  Speaker 1: days or more okay so that's something you might want
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  Speaker 1: to be prepared for so under all circumstances it's a
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  Speaker 1: good idea but The timing, again, and of course, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: The Internet is alive and well and will push anything
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  Speaker 1: as a theory to get people concerned and ginned up.
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  Speaker 1: So cool heads hopefully will prevail. And what of, since
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned the European Union, maybe trying to gin up
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  Speaker 1: its citizens over concern Russia is going to invade. Going
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  Speaker 1: back to this, we've talked time and time again about this.
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  Speaker 1: What could Russia possibly accomplish? And I just keep looking
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  Speaker 1: at something I've said to you a multitude of times.
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  Speaker 1: Five years into this invasion of Ukraine, and we're kind
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  Speaker 1: of like just in a tit-for-tat kind of bombing thing.
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  Speaker 1: I know Ukraine is struggling mightily, but if Russia can't
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  Speaker 1: accomplish the goal of taking over Ukraine, and it's taken
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  Speaker 1: them four or five years to even make the inroads
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  Speaker 1: that they've made, how in God's name can they attack
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  Speaker 1: the entire European Union?
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  Speaker 2: 100% right. That is so important. And the Russians have
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  Speaker 2: been very clear and overt. They have largely done what
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  Speaker 2: they have said, and they have gone after what they
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  Speaker 2: claimed was important to them, and they have not gone
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  Speaker 2: after things that they don't want. They don't even want
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  Speaker 2: the western part of Ukraine, because they realized that to
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  Speaker 2: conquer the western part of Ukraine militarily, even if they could,
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  Speaker 2: would be setting themselves up for an extended period of
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  Speaker 2: years of insurgency kind of thing, etc., They have no
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  Speaker 2: need for that. And you can just, times 10, the
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  Speaker 2: idea of going into another country, into NATO, not only
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  Speaker 2: would they then draw all 32 NATO countries into a
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  Speaker 2: war with them, then they would put everybody on the
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  Speaker 2: target list They don't want it. What benefit would they have?
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  Speaker 2: Russia already has the most natural resources on the continent.
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  Speaker 2: They've got everything that they need for their security. They
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  Speaker 2: want border security. They don't want to expand their border.
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  Speaker 2: It would literally be a drain and a drag on
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  Speaker 2: their country that they have no interest in doing. And
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  Speaker 2: as you pointed out, the capacity on the ground, in
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  Speaker 2: five years almost, they still haven't taken all of Donbass itself,
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  Speaker 2: much less anything else. They've moved a bunch of other
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  Speaker 2: stuff and they've caused problems. profound amounts of damage throughout
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  Speaker 2: the country of Ukraine, all the way to the western
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  Speaker 2: border in the air, but that's in order to facilitate
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  Speaker 2: a collapse of the Ukraine army so that they can
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  Speaker 2: win the Donbass part that they want. Everything is focused
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  Speaker 2: on what they're telling you they're going after, and they're
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  Speaker 2: going after it. But this idea that they're coming for
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  Speaker 2: Europe is absurd. Now, the only risk there, and there
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  Speaker 2: is a risk, is that you have the likes of
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  Speaker 2: Britain or France or Germany, especially those three in particular,
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  Speaker 2: Keep on helping Ukraine strike deep and add the United
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  Speaker 2: States into that because we've done it here recently with intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: strike and hitting targets of pain in Russia, and there
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  Speaker 2: could come a point to where Russia says, okay, you
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  Speaker 2: guys are basically directly involved in this, and I'm now
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  Speaker 2: going to strike the facilities where you're facilitating these kinds
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  Speaker 2: of strikes. That is possible, and that's a legitimate fear,
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  Speaker 2: but that would only become because we press beyond limits
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  Speaker 2: and we go somewhere that, by the way, has no
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  Speaker 2: value or benefit to us. We don't benefit from any
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  Speaker 2: of these strikes. It's not going to save Ukraine. All
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  Speaker 2: it might do is spawn a missile coming back in
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  Speaker 2: our direction. I don't know why they're playing with fire
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  Speaker 2: like this. I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess I have to continue with this sort
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  Speaker 1: of topic is what benefit do the European leaders get
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  Speaker 1: from ginning up concern of a Russia invading the continent anyway?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's the financial benefit because, you know, you've
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  Speaker 2: had this just European mentality going back. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: can really go back even longer than that. This anti-Russian mentality.
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  Speaker 2: It was all during the Cold War. And then we
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  Speaker 2: were mad because we lost our enemy after the end
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  Speaker 2: of the Cold War. Well, we had to have one.
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  Speaker 2: So what a great one than Russia. Obviously, you have Napoleon.
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  Speaker 2: In the 1800s, you have Hitler. In the 1900s, so
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  Speaker 2: there's a long history of Europeans wanting to conquer Russia,
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  Speaker 2: and now here's this current iteration. That's certainly how the
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  Speaker 2: Russians see it. That's why, to them, this is an
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  Speaker 2: existential threat and not just something on their border. They
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  Speaker 2: view this as the third iteration of Europe trying to
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  Speaker 2: dominate their country. That's how they see it, and that's
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  Speaker 2: how they're reacting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I don't know that the Russians have much
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  Speaker 1: to worry about, considering the Europeans are collapsing under the
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  Speaker 1: weight of their own social welfare program and systems. And
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  Speaker 1: people are riding in the streets over that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that they have any money to spare or can
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  Speaker 1: possibly fund a war to the extent they want to
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  Speaker 1: go down that road.
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  Speaker 2: They'll always find money for more war. They'll make their
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  Speaker 2: people sacrifice even more before they'll do that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll concede that, Daniel Davis. Moving over, I guess
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  Speaker 1: we launch what we are characterizing as a defensive strike
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  Speaker 1: on Kesham Island, the Strait of Hormuz. This because we
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  Speaker 1: were told that the Iranians attacked a United States aircraft
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  Speaker 1: So tit for tat, why Kashim Island? What militarily is there?
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  Speaker 1: Why that target versus any other? If we're just going
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  Speaker 1: to go ahead and drop a bomb in retaliation for
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  Speaker 1: them launching a missile, what effect this particular attack?
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  Speaker 2: According to what we've been told, this is just the
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  Speaker 2: latest in a series of strikes that have happened recently.
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  Speaker 2: They've been kind of below the media radar. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'll concede that it's possible that exactly what we were
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  Speaker 2: told is true, that Iran tried to attack an F-35,
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  Speaker 2: because they've done that before, so that wouldn't be completely
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  Speaker 2: out of character. But I'd rather think that when you
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  Speaker 2: look at the array and things that are hit, it
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  Speaker 2: looks more to me like the U.S. is going, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go after radar sites and other areas of
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  Speaker 2: early warning. because we maybe wanted to come in with
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  Speaker 2: another big wave of things so the idea is you
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  Speaker 2: want to strip away their eyes in the front part
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  Speaker 2: there and then when whatever comes next and then we
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  Speaker 2: kind of did a version of that in the first
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  Speaker 2: iteration of this back in February March so my military
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  Speaker 2: eyes here that or see that I think that we're
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  Speaker 2: getting ready for something bigger coming up here as opposed
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  Speaker 2: to just, oh, they tried to shoot a random F-35.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, though. I don't have enough information, but
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  Speaker 2: that's my concern.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and Donald Trump just said the other day, right
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  Speaker 1: after the election, we can start dropping bombs, kind of
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  Speaker 1: suggesting that it would only be the election that would
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  Speaker 1: hold him from or keep him from reengaging in kinetic strikes.
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  Speaker 1: But going back to our regular discussion, What good is
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  Speaker 1: it going to do if we start dropping bombs? Is
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  Speaker 1: there a strategy behind this that overcomes all the challenges
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  Speaker 1: that you brought up every single time you've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about this on the morning show?
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  Speaker 2: You know, yesterday, Jack Keane went on Fox News and
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  Speaker 2: he addressed that question at least and said, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because we've had more intelligence now over, you know,
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  Speaker 2: since the June when we had the basic ceasefire in place.
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  Speaker 2: Now we have a lot more intelligence, and so we
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  Speaker 2: can see where things are better. And now we're going
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  Speaker 2: to hit targets we didn't hit before because of new intelligence.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's, I'm just going to call it, that's BS.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like we didn't know these targets existed before,
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  Speaker 2: and suddenly we just discovered them through persistent stare. No,
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  Speaker 2: we've already known this, and we've already hit the targets
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  Speaker 2: after painstaking years of preparation for this. And the targets
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  Speaker 2: that matter, we didn't destroy the first time, i.e. the
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  Speaker 2: missile cities under Granite Mountains. And those have not changed any.
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  Speaker 2: And that target requirement has not changed any. And our
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  Speaker 2: attack capabilities in terms of what we're going to shoot
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  Speaker 2: also hasn't changed except for there's less of it. So
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  Speaker 2: they may have in their mind they're going to hit
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  Speaker 2: other targets and they may hit other targets that they'll
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  Speaker 2: blow up whatever we shoot at because they can't stop it.
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  Speaker 2: But it won't make any difference for the war, and
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  Speaker 2: it won't stop the one thing they have over all
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  Speaker 2: of the region, which is those long-range missiles and the
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  Speaker 2: long-range drones. And if you can't take those out and
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  Speaker 2: you start a war, then all these threats that Iran
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  Speaker 2: is making about what they'll hit in return, they also
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  Speaker 2: will do, and we can't stop that either. So in
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  Speaker 2: my view, it is absolute just insanity to start something
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  Speaker 2: that we can't finish on our terms.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and of course, the Iranians and the Houthis have
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  Speaker 1: been launching attacks on the surrounding neighbors, Saudis, etc., And
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  Speaker 1: I've read that our allies in the Middle East are
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  Speaker 1: already planning for this next wave of assault. So their
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  Speaker 1: targets as well. And it was just more recently revealed
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  Speaker 1: the extensive damage done to our military bases. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: billions of dollars. And that was really way, way, way
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  Speaker 1: under the radar. I mean, that wasn't a regularly reported thing.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got major challenges on our hand. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess we can expect the price of gasoline to go
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  Speaker 1: through the roof even more so if we start bombing again, Daniel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and diesel in particular. But, yeah, because here's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: When we started this first one, we had this massive
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  Speaker 2: amount of strategic petroleum reserves and other things. We had
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  Speaker 2: lots of cushion. The cushion is gone. If we start
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  Speaker 2: something again now and the fuel facilities get hit, pumping
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  Speaker 2: stations get hit, tankers get sunk again, there's no cushion.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to be in a lot more trouble
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  Speaker 2: the next round.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, Deep Dive. Find them where you find your podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Tune in every Tuesday at 8.30 here on the 55
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  Speaker 1: KRC Morning Show. I appreciate your thoughts and insights, sir.
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  Speaker 1: It's a real pleasure to have you on.
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  Speaker 2: Always my pleasure, Brian. See you next week.
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