Latest / Financial Survival Network / The Fed’s Sweet Fix & the Market's Sugar High - Dale Smothers #6150
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We almost have to consider this as a sugar high.
- 0:03Speaker 2: We are.
- 0:03Speaker 1: We are on a sugar high, and the Fed just
- 0:06Speaker 1: gave us another pixie stick. It's kind of concerning if
- 0:10Speaker 1: you ask me, I've got two young boys on my own,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and anytime they ask for sugar, I know that there's
- 0:15Speaker 1: going to be this high activity period of time and
- 0:18Speaker 1: then the crash comes. And my fear is when does
- 0:22Speaker 1: the crash come? And how bad of a crash.
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- 0:51Speaker 2: You are listening to and watching the Financial Survival Network.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I'm your host, Carry Letz. Hey, so we got our
- 0:57Speaker 2: fifty point basis cut. Most of the so called experts
- 1:02Speaker 2: were expecting twenty five basis points. So far, the markets
- 1:07Speaker 2: are reacting favorably. You wonder if they're reacting to the
- 1:11Speaker 2: election or to the center, to both. But we got
- 1:17Speaker 2: a guest here who's going to explain it all to you,
- 1:21Speaker 2: and well, hey, what can you say? Dalla Smothers is
- 1:26Speaker 2: with us now, President founder of RDS well Dale. It's
- 1:31Speaker 2: great to have you on the show. We first time guessed.
- 1:34Speaker 2: So yes, hey, how bad is the economy? B? Does
- 1:39Speaker 2: fifty basis points make any difference? And C does the
- 1:43Speaker 2: election matter at this point?
- 1:46Speaker 1: Sure? So let's take it in order. Then let's go A.
- 1:49Speaker 1: How bad is the economy? You know, cutting straight to
- 1:53Speaker 1: the chase. I think a fifty basis point cut at
- 1:57Speaker 1: this point in the game is is a telltale sign
- 2:01Speaker 1: that they see something that's not in the publicly disclosed numbers.
- 2:05Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the jobless claims that
- 2:07Speaker 1: just came out this morning and you see that our
- 2:10Speaker 1: jobless claims aren't actually as bad as what you would expect.
- 2:14Speaker 1: After a fifty basis points cut, you've got to wonder
- 2:17Speaker 1: what the world are they seeing? You know, not to
- 2:19Speaker 1: say that they're wrong, it's just what are they seeing
- 2:22Speaker 1: that would that would negate this type of jobless claim
- 2:28Speaker 1: that we're seeing. I mean that the jobless claim is
- 2:30Speaker 1: trending in the right direction, and we still come out
- 2:33Speaker 1: with a fifty basis point cut for b on the
- 2:38Speaker 1: fifty basis point cut? Does it really affect the market?
- 2:41Speaker 1: You know, I think that the market's going to react
- 2:44Speaker 1: favorably to this, as you already see happening today. My
- 2:48Speaker 1: problem that I have with this is that we almost
- 2:51Speaker 1: have to consider this as a sugar high.
- 2:53Speaker 2: We are.
- 2:54Speaker 1: We are on a sugar high, and the Fed just
- 2:57Speaker 1: gave us another pixie stick. It's kind of concerned if
- 3:00Speaker 1: you ask me. I've got two young boys on my own,
- 3:03Speaker 1: and anytime they ask for sugar, I know that there's
- 3:05Speaker 1: going to be this high activity period of time and
- 3:08Speaker 1: then the crash comes. And my view is when does
- 3:12Speaker 1: the crash come and how bad of a crash is it?
- 3:15Speaker 1: And then for se does the election matter? I think
- 3:18Speaker 1: the election certainly has consequences, as every election does. We've
- 3:22Speaker 1: got the potential for a long term capital gain or
- 3:26Speaker 1: short term capital gain being taxed even without realizing it.
- 3:30Speaker 1: That could impact a ton of investors and in my opinion,
- 3:34Speaker 1: could make a lot of money flow out of the
- 3:37Speaker 1: capital markets that we currently see. A lot of policy
- 3:42Speaker 1: that is on the table right now is going to
- 3:44Speaker 1: impact the market, and we can unpack that as you
- 3:47Speaker 1: wish or in my opinion. I think again, either of
- 3:51Speaker 1: the sides that are going to be running are going
- 3:53Speaker 1: to be giving us more pixie sticks along the way.
- 3:56Speaker 1: So we're talking to our clients right now, Harry in
- 3:59Speaker 1: a and a notion of Hey, in the next ten
- 4:02Speaker 1: to fifteen years, we just got to make sure that
- 4:04Speaker 1: we're weathering this storm no matter what it becomes or
- 4:08Speaker 1: how bad it becomes. We've got to have assets in
- 4:11Speaker 1: places that perform in good markets and in bad.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Yeah. So we talk in precious metals, we talk in cryptos,
- 4:19Speaker 2: and talking consumer stocks.
- 4:23Speaker 1: And I love that you pitch that I like the
- 4:26Speaker 1: consumer stocks. I like those tried and true method stocks
- 4:29Speaker 1: that have been around for a long time and paying
- 4:31Speaker 1: very good dividends. And I'm a big fan right now
- 4:34Speaker 1: of stocks that have been hit pretty big, like say
- 4:36Speaker 1: a dollar general recessionary style stock that you know, if
- 4:40Speaker 1: the markets are bad or there is a recession, it's
- 4:43Speaker 1: a really good place to buy some things for a
- 4:46Speaker 1: lot of the Americans that are suffering the most. And
- 4:49Speaker 1: it was if I'm not mistaken, I think it's down.
- 4:52Speaker 1: I didn't prepare for this part, but I think it's
- 4:54Speaker 1: down sixty plus percent from its highs and there's really
- 4:58Speaker 1: no reason for it to be. Dollars is a good
- 5:00Speaker 1: place if you're in this area of the country. They're
- 5:03Speaker 1: popping up everywhere you turn. There seems to be a
- 5:05Speaker 1: dollar General being built, and you know, I think something
- 5:09Speaker 1: like that would be a good place. So consumers are
- 5:11Speaker 1: definitely consumer. Consumer sector is a great place to invest.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I like precious metals. I've not yet gotten on the
- 5:18Speaker 1: vandwagon of buying a bunch of gold, but having gold
- 5:21Speaker 1: is a great hedge. We also talk about diversification of
- 5:25Speaker 1: types of products that investors invest in, and there are
- 5:29Speaker 1: ways to safeguard against downturn markets with some insurance based products.
- 5:35Speaker 1: I also like options on some of these stocks that
- 5:38Speaker 1: we believe to be good for long term trading, perhaps
- 5:42Speaker 1: maybe generating some income from covered calls, those types of
- 5:45Speaker 1: things that we don't have to be as dependent upon
- 5:48Speaker 1: the market movement itself if we're getting the income we desire.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Okay, anything any feelings about bitcoin?
- 5:56Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know that you're a big fan of bitcoin.
- 5:58Speaker 1: I'll be honest. The way we talk to our client
- 6:00Speaker 1: it's about bitcoin is I think it's a great place
- 6:02Speaker 1: to put some money that you're okay, letting dance around.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I don't feel yet that we have a lot of
- 6:09Speaker 1: adoption of bitcoin, like we need to see if I'm
- 6:12Speaker 1: not mistaken. I caught on the news the other day
- 6:14Speaker 1: it was Donald Trump that was at a bar and
- 6:16Speaker 1: bought his first a bar in New York City. It's amazing,
- 6:22Speaker 1: and you know, type that type of momentum is only
- 6:25Speaker 1: going to make bitcoin or crypto currency more and more
- 6:28Speaker 1: in favor. I'm not yet ready to say that bitcoin
- 6:33Speaker 1: is something we shouldn't pay attention to by any means.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I think that we've woken up now that crypto is
- 6:38Speaker 1: potentially a currency of the future. But I'm still in
- 6:42Speaker 1: the camp of crypto is a asset class, not so
- 6:46Speaker 1: much a currency. So if you want to trade crypto
- 6:49Speaker 1: to make some money with capital gains, certainly that that's
- 6:52Speaker 1: somewhere you could put some money to say, it's a
- 6:54Speaker 1: hedge against the oncoming storm that I see happening, or
- 6:59Speaker 1: the the sugar crash. Going back to my analogy, I'm
- 7:03Speaker 1: just not there yet, and the reason probably carries the
- 7:05Speaker 1: clients we deal with. We don't want a lot of
- 7:08Speaker 1: volatility in their positions. If we're taking income throughout their
- 7:12Speaker 1: retirement years.
- 7:14Speaker 2: But it is a non correlated asset and right now
- 7:19Speaker 2: as we're talking, it's right around sixty four thousand. Yeah, bang,
- 7:23Speaker 2: I buy a little bit every week. Honestly, what oh buy?
- 7:27Speaker 2: Because average up, average down, and actually, you know, yeah.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Dollar cost averaging into an asset like that is a
- 7:35Speaker 1: perfect way to average out your cost if you are
- 7:39Speaker 1: interested in bitcoin and to carry I know you are
- 7:41Speaker 1: a fan of it. I watched the show. I know
- 7:44Speaker 1: that this is something that you enjoy even discussing. It's
- 7:48Speaker 1: just more or less coming from my perspective. With retirees,
- 7:52Speaker 1: our goal is to minimize the volatility, and something like bitcoin,
- 7:58Speaker 1: perhaps in the ETF four fits the bill for that,
- 8:02Speaker 1: but directly buying a bitcoin on a coin exchange is
- 8:05Speaker 1: not something that we've gotten into at this point.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Yeah, well you got your twenty something ETFs that all
- 8:12Speaker 2: have bitcoin now, sure, so that makes it a little
- 8:16Speaker 2: bit more investible for you, doesn't it.
- 8:18Speaker 1: And it's exactly right, And to my point, that becomes
- 8:21Speaker 1: a momentum shifter where now things are beginning to be
- 8:24Speaker 1: more in favor of bitcoin being adopted as an actual currency.
- 8:30Speaker 1: And this is this is all good for those bitcoin investors,
- 8:34Speaker 1: my guess.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Is you know, seventy five thousand has been a resistance
- 8:38Speaker 2: point for bitcoin. If I look at the chart, I
- 8:43Speaker 2: think it was seventy three thousand it hit. I'm not mistaken,
- 8:49Speaker 2: Peace can't remember now, oh man senior moment here you're okay, yeah,
- 8:56Speaker 2: well that's for today. So we look at the one
- 8:58Speaker 2: year because it was just recent league and seventy one thousand,
- 9:03Speaker 2: four hundred and ninety one dollars that was the peak,
- 9:07Speaker 2: and hey, looking at it now, sixty three thousand, it's
- 9:11Speaker 2: been trading in a sideways channel with not lower lows,
- 9:17Speaker 2: but lower highs for sure. So it's been in a
- 9:21Speaker 2: kind of a bull pendant, a bear pendant, I guess.
- 9:25Speaker 2: But but you know, I got to see it break
- 9:27Speaker 2: out at sixty nine thousand. That's my breakout point. Then
- 9:33Speaker 2: it's going to make new highs.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And you know that is that is trading one oh one.
- 9:37Speaker 1: If it hits through that resistance, we are likely to
- 9:42Speaker 1: see that one hundred thousand dollars number that's been prophesied
- 9:45Speaker 1: for the last four or five or even six years.
- 9:49Speaker 1: I remember I remember bitcoin coming onto the scene and
- 9:53Speaker 1: being able to snatch it up at a very low price,
- 9:56Speaker 1: and I passed on it, and you know, down a
- 10:00Speaker 1: little bit more inclined to say, Okay, this is something
- 10:04Speaker 1: that we might want to buy at the next dip,
- 10:06Speaker 1: but again at the moment, not something we're purchasing for
- 10:09Speaker 1: clients just yet.
- 10:11Speaker 2: It's pretty easy to purchase and the hey I'm up nicely.
- 10:16Speaker 2: I mean, you know, bitcoin over the past year, it's
- 10:20Speaker 2: up thirty six thousand, five hundred dollars, so it was
- 10:25Speaker 2: at twenty seven and change. So that's a nice little
- 10:29Speaker 2: return there. So you have to curious, how do you how.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Do you purchase bitcoin yourself or is that something that
- 10:36Speaker 1: you go to the exchanged direct I.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Do it at the exchange, even though honestly it's cheaper
- 10:42Speaker 2: to do it in ETF at this point. Sure, but
- 10:46Speaker 2: I just kind of like having the wallet there.
- 10:49Speaker 1: So all right, and I am curious too to this point,
- 10:52Speaker 1: we'll pull up here for just another second. Do you
- 10:54Speaker 1: see any divergence from ETF pricing and the actual bitcoin,
- 10:59Speaker 1: the underlying bitcoin in itself.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Not yet, not major divergences, but I think that's in
- 11:04Speaker 2: the offing. And that'll because they're you know, san bankman
- 11:09Speaker 2: Free showed you can arbitrage crypto. Yeah, He's the first
- 11:14Speaker 2: one and really made it popular. So you know, the
- 11:19Speaker 2: divergences will not be big enough for individual traders to
- 11:24Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of it. You really need
- 11:26Speaker 2: a trading bought system to do that. You can't. You know,
- 11:30Speaker 2: they're so quick now because there are hundreds of different
- 11:36Speaker 2: traders and crypto looking for that little little divergence between
- 11:40Speaker 2: the ETF so they can sell one and buy the other,
- 11:43Speaker 2: right arbitrage? Yeah, but you know too much for me.
- 11:51Speaker 2: I'm just a hobby trader. Yeah, but you know it's
- 11:54Speaker 2: making money, then it's a good hobby, right, Why not? Yeah?
- 11:57Speaker 1: You so you would be considered more of the long term.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Do you do do a lot of trading in and out?
- 12:01Speaker 1: Are you long term?
- 12:03Speaker 2: I was swing trading it, but then when I saw
- 12:05Speaker 2: it broke certain points that it was setting higher, I
- 12:08Speaker 2: just held on for the ride. But you know it's
- 12:14Speaker 2: at sixty three thousand today, Dale, it could be at
- 12:17Speaker 2: fifty three thousand tonight. I know this is true, and
- 12:20Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me because now that there's ETFs and
- 12:24Speaker 2: there's options and futures, it's so easy to manipulate, and
- 12:28Speaker 2: there's no law against manipulating cryptocurrency, so everybody loves.
- 12:33Speaker 1: It right, right, So just like you part of the appeal.
- 12:38Speaker 2: It's just like you can't be charged for manipulating commodities,
- 12:41Speaker 2: you can't be charged for manipula manipulating cryptos, but you
- 12:46Speaker 2: can be charged for manipulating options on stocks, right. Does
- 12:52Speaker 2: that make any sense? Well, you know the rules we
- 12:56Speaker 2: work with.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I guess is the big appeal, in my opinion, is
- 12:59Speaker 1: the it's the wild wild West, the idea that there
- 13:03Speaker 1: is no real regulation against the bitcoin marketing. But the
- 13:09Speaker 1: more and more it becomes a asset that's traded, I
- 13:12Speaker 1: think we see regulations start to creep in.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Oh they have it, dude, Yeah, and then they got
- 13:17Speaker 2: to because but the other thing is that it's international, transnational.
- 13:23Speaker 2: There's no borders, there's no nothing, and the central banks
- 13:27Speaker 2: out of the picture. The exchanges are really in your imagination,
- 13:31Speaker 2: they don't really exist. Sure, I mean they're there, they're
- 13:34Speaker 2: just a website. So I'm not sure about it. But
- 13:39Speaker 2: looking ahead here, when we have this conversation in a year, dale,
- 13:42Speaker 2: what's going to be the economic landscape here? Man? Assuming
- 13:48Speaker 2: that political situation is neutral at best.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, so I think that any uncertainty for the
- 13:57Speaker 1: market is a bad thing. And so you know, just
- 13:59Speaker 1: the fact that we get the election behind us, I
- 14:02Speaker 1: think it's going to give us a little bit of
- 14:04Speaker 1: a trend in the right direction for the market. Again,
- 14:08Speaker 1: my fear is that we are on the sugar high
- 14:11Speaker 1: and that when we start to see the reason why
- 14:14Speaker 1: rates are being cut, we could see inflation re emerge.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Re emerging of re immersion of the inflation is going
- 14:23Speaker 1: to certainly be a halting factor for the market, especially
- 14:28Speaker 1: if the Fed has to react again to inflation. In
- 14:32Speaker 1: the hills of Kentucky and you know, the Appalachian Mountain
- 14:36Speaker 1: region here in Tennessee where I serve, we have wildfires
- 14:41Speaker 1: from time to time that spark just out of nowhere,
- 14:43Speaker 1: just a little bit of spark ignites a massive wildfire.
- 14:47Speaker 1: And you know one recently just almost burned down a
- 14:50Speaker 1: city that is that is widely known, Gatlinburg, Tennessee. Oh sure,
- 14:55Speaker 1: And in my opinion, I think what we see is
- 14:58Speaker 1: inflation was raging and all of a sudden, our firefighters
- 15:02Speaker 1: have put it out to say, ninety percent completely done smoldering.
- 15:07Speaker 1: But it's smoldering, You're exactly right, and it's still smoldering,
- 15:10Speaker 1: and all of our firefighters are headed home. And now
- 15:12Speaker 1: they the FED has decided that they are on the
- 15:16Speaker 1: other end of their dual mandate to worry about unemployment,
- 15:21Speaker 1: and unemployment doesn't seem to be a major factor right
- 15:24Speaker 1: this minute, so I'm curious what's going on in their head.
- 15:28Speaker 1: And then we've got a potential strike with the port workers,
- 15:33Speaker 1: and if that takes place, that could put a major
- 15:36Speaker 1: strain on supply, and ultimately it's an economics problem from there.
- 15:40Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a Knesian or a Freedman.
- 15:43Speaker 1: You have to understand that less supply, more money equals inflation,
- 15:49Speaker 1: and if inflation becomes another factor, we could see the
- 15:52Speaker 1: market begin to melt down in the face of potentially
- 15:57Speaker 1: higher interest rates.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Once again, all right, We're gonna leave it at that,
- 16:02Speaker 2: uh Dale, Just tell us how we connect with you?
- 16:05Speaker 2: Where we find you on the web? Yes, sir, so again.
- 16:09Speaker 1: You can go to our website Rdswealth dot com RDS
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- 16:31Speaker 2: All right, Hey, appreciate you coming on, Yes, sir, and
- 16:34Speaker 2: if you've got a question for Dale or myself, shoot
- 16:37Speaker 2: me an email kl at Terry Leeds dot com. You'll
- 16:40Speaker 2: find the link to dale site in the show. That's
- 16:42Speaker 2: this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com. While you there,
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- 16:54Speaker 2: we appreciate you coming. Sugar highs are okay, but then
- 16:59Speaker 2: they're followed by crashes and your blood and then you're
- 17:04Speaker 2: like half passed out, you need a nap, and then
- 17:07Speaker 2: you're thinking, hey, maybe this wasn't worth it. I think
- 17:10Speaker 2: that's where we're going to be as well. We'll talk
- 17:13Speaker 2: to you again soon. Dale, thanks so much.
- 17:14Speaker 1: Asah, thank you Ker.
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