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L92 Live Interview: Barbara Shupe – Sasquatch Researcher Reveals the Truth · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome Back to the Eye of Jupiter Live. This one
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  Speaker 1: was with the one, the only, the incredible, sweetest women
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  Speaker 1: in the world. Barbershue, Ladies and Gentlemen was on the
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  Speaker 1: show was It was fantastic. We went through some of
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  Speaker 1: her videos on her actual YouTube channel, and you can
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  Speaker 1: go over there and check it out all the links
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  Speaker 1: in the description below.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about her co habitation where she lives in
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  Speaker 1: Washington State. Did did you know they're going into the portals,
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  Speaker 1: the blinking eyes, the fairies, She's seen all the crazy
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  Speaker 1: things associated with that. You're probably wondering why hasn't many
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  Speaker 1: been any live shows in a while? Well, for many
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore reasons. Somebody was sick, somebody had the time wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and somebody had a medical emergency in the family, which
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  Speaker 1: is why after a couple of weeks, I will be
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  Speaker 1: discontinuing the live show. It's just too much stress. People
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  Speaker 1: can't show up for various reasons, and I am just
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  Speaker 1: kind of just sending her twiddling my thumbs after doing
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of work half the time. But I will
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  Speaker 1: be doing the continuous, continually doing the regular shows. If
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  Speaker 1: at juma dot com and I'll have you on this show.
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  Speaker 1: And please leave me a rating over here on Spotify.
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  Speaker 1: Please please please do so, because that's the best way
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  Speaker 1: to help the show. And this was a really cool
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  Speaker 1: interview and I hope you guys enjoy. Thank you so
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  Speaker 1: very much. And uh yeah, this was a great one
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  Speaker 1: with Barbershop. Hi everybody, last time you were in your
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  Speaker 1: you were in your truck. What happened. I've just noticed
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  Speaker 1: that you're in the house this time.
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  Speaker 3: While I'm in the cabin today. It's just too cold
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  Speaker 3: to be outside.
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  Speaker 1: Now, so oh oh that's right, it's cold. Hey, Hello, Hello, Pam,
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  Speaker 1: And hello stuff? Who's stuff? Who is? Oh? I know
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  Speaker 1: whose stuff is? That's Tim?
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  Speaker 2: Hi?
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  Speaker 1: Tim? How's it going? Tim? All right? Barbara, do me
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  Speaker 1: a favorite. Tell everybody a little bit about yourself, Tell
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  Speaker 1: them about your book, tell them what your channel is,
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  Speaker 1: where they can find you, and how all this started
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a lot. Well, yeah, barbshoop.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in Washington State in a little community called Greenwater,
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  Speaker 4: north of mount Rainier, right in the middle of the
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  Speaker 4: Cascade Mountains. I've been here since the early nineties. Sorry
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  Speaker 4: about the cattail, don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So back in the early nineties I moved here,
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  Speaker 4: and my first hike up the trail behind the cabin here,
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  Speaker 4: I found a perfect giant footprint and some broken trees,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, I'd already had a lifelong interest, but that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that was the day that I felt like
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  Speaker 4: I became a true believer. And you know, in the
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  Speaker 4: years since then, there's been a lot of things that
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  Speaker 4: have gone on around the cabin. And in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 4: I got to see the big guy following the elk
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  Speaker 4: up here on the hill and I watched him vanish
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  Speaker 4: into thin air.
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  Speaker 3: After that, I started doing gifting.
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  Speaker 4: I'd go out weekly and I'd leave pie, apples, toys,
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  Speaker 4: whatever I thought they might be interested in.
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  Speaker 3: And then I.
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  Speaker 4: Started a YouTube channel, squatching with Barb and Gabby. And
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  Speaker 4: then I did that for probably every week for about
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  Speaker 4: three years, and then I've just kind of petered off
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  Speaker 4: on that. Now. I usually I still post videos, but
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  Speaker 4: I usually use the Facebook Reels are a lot more
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  Speaker 4: fun than YouTube these days.
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  Speaker 3: And then I wrote a book this last year. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know, so the unseen audience. I've got a there's
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  Speaker 3: my one of the right here right If you.
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  Speaker 1: Want to get the book, guys. Link is in the
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  Speaker 1: description below. If you, guys, happen to be over onto
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  Speaker 1: the vertical the vertical feed, it should be the linko
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  Speaker 1: inn horizontal. If not, go look into the channel and
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  Speaker 1: you'll find a horizontal feed. But very very busy. So
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  Speaker 1: it's been a very strange time for us in the
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  Speaker 1: the Force people, the Bigfoot, the Sasquatch community, one of
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  Speaker 1: the one of the icons. Somebody that I actually get
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  Speaker 1: to actually talk to pasted and we were kind of
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  Speaker 1: discussing Tom Cantrell's passing, and I just want to kind
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  Speaker 1: of you know him better than I did, of course,
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  Speaker 1: could you tell everybody a little bit about him, who
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  Speaker 1: he was and what he did for the community. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: Bruce High All Day Show stamp Amber High, Guys, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna yeah, sorry, guys, could you tell us a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about about him, what it was, what he was
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  Speaker 1: like in what he meant to the community.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Tom was Tom was an icon, you know, he was.
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  Speaker 4: He was as big in real life as he was
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  Speaker 4: in all the interviews that you see and the.
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  Speaker 3: Stories that he tells, you know, he was. He was
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  Speaker 3: a great spirit.
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  Speaker 4: He was my friend and mentor since about twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: We used to do a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 4: road trips together, a lot of camp outs, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: when Tom couldn't go camping anymore, we'd still get him
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  Speaker 4: out to, you know, sit by the fire for an afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: And when when he couldn't get him to do that,
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  Speaker 4: when he you know, he was was no longer strong
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  Speaker 4: enough to go out to the woods, well, we still
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  Speaker 4: made sure he was always included. If we had any
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  Speaker 4: any questions about what was going on in camp, we
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  Speaker 4: could always give him a phone call. And one time
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  Speaker 4: in particular, we were over in the Blue Mountains and
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  Speaker 4: we'd been at two locations where the second location there
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  Speaker 4: was only a few of us left, and the first
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  Speaker 4: location had been just one thing after another with activity.
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  Speaker 4: The second location was the exact opposite. There really wasn't
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  Speaker 4: anything going on, but one afternoon there was five ladies
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  Speaker 4: that were there, and one afternoon one of us that
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  Speaker 4: was sitting there saw this big bear across the road,
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  Speaker 4: and it was a black bear, but it was like
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  Speaker 4: a golden brown black bear, and it was huge, and
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  Speaker 4: it just kind of made three leaps down through the
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  Speaker 4: wildflowers onto the road and it disappeared behind the bushes
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  Speaker 4: on our side, and we don't know where he went. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we went out onto the road looking for
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  Speaker 4: his tracks and the dust to see how big he was.
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  Speaker 4: And he didn't have any tracks.
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  Speaker 3: So we tried to find his trackway down through the wildflowers.
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  Speaker 3: We couldn't even find a single broken stem.
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  Speaker 4: So we sent Tom a message and asked him what
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  Speaker 4: the heck is going on with this bear?
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  Speaker 3: And he came back.
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  Speaker 4: He told us that he had talked to his Sasquatch
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  Speaker 4: teacher and the message was that behold the watchman. The
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  Speaker 4: Sasquatch in the area were off hunting elk and they
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  Speaker 4: had sent this bear to watch after us. So Tom
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  Speaker 4: was always good for having a connection like that when
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  Speaker 4: you needed to know something. So, you know, he he's
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  Speaker 4: going to be sorely missed. But you know, he wrote
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  Speaker 4: a lot of books and he did a lot of interviews.
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  Speaker 4: There's you can go onto his website. You can look
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  Speaker 4: him up on Amazon and you can order all of
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  Speaker 4: his books are still available and they will continue to
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  Speaker 4: be available. And yeah, he was a great guy, good friend,
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  Speaker 4: and he's getting.
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  Speaker 1: Just a little bit. I knew about him, so I
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  Speaker 1: was able to I think there was another Barbara. There's
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  Speaker 1: barber shop and is also a Barbara Hartman. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think she probably got me a connected with you too.
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  Speaker 1: You need to talk to her. I can't remember. She
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, you need to talk to Tom Cantrell.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, who's that And she was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he's friends with Bob Gimmon. I was like, I know
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  Speaker 1: that name that I know it's one of the most
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  Speaker 1: famous names in all of you know this. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: I got to talk to him and I just found
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  Speaker 1: him to be the most kindest, generalist, sweetest person. We
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  Speaker 1: were supposed to go on again, but his health was
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  Speaker 1: bad and so I didn't want to bother him. So
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  Speaker 1: I didn't bother him again. I asked, I said, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he said sure, didn he content me like a week
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  Speaker 1: or two like, yeah, I'm not feeling so well. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, man, that's no big deal. It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's okay, it's okay, Tom. So who's it
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  Speaker 1: was great? If you guys want to go back on
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  Speaker 1: this actual on the channel, there's it's I think it's
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  Speaker 1: called like I witnessed the Birth of Twins, and you've
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  Speaker 1: talked about his connection with the like the leaders of
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  Speaker 1: the clans and how they meet up and actually talk
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  Speaker 1: to one another and develop and and it was just
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  Speaker 1: you subbed. Thank you? Was were you unsubbed all day?
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  Speaker 1: Were you unsubbed? Oh? Yeah, justin Hey buddy, I'm on
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  Speaker 1: the gum. Dude, I'm on the gum. I won't be
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  Speaker 1: smoking today, I know. He says, Oh you're smoking, SOA smokes.
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  Speaker 1: So today you're gonna have to go in the gum
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  Speaker 1: with me. Man, I need your help. Uh, that's funny,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not really good for the podcast. Brother you
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  Speaker 1: got if you want to go over to my other
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  Speaker 1: show called The Cat Scan, that's that would be something
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  Speaker 1: we would talk about over there. Oh he subbed the
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  Speaker 1: Native Tracker. That's awesome. Okay, contact me too. I need
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  Speaker 1: you to have come back on the show. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Barbara actually pulled up your channel so people can see
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  Speaker 1: it here. I mean, I'm still not as good as
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  Speaker 1: I I am on this one as I am over
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  Speaker 1: on my share screen it's different on the where I
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  Speaker 1: do my teaching. I'm also I'm a tutor, so my
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  Speaker 1: where I too where I it's different than here, so
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  Speaker 1: me learning how to do it is anyway? So this
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  Speaker 1: is Barbara channel guy, it's it's you know, simply just
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  Speaker 1: here it is right here. Wait a minute, barbar shoop
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  Speaker 1: is just the.
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  Speaker 3: Right one that looks like it looks like my stuff? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: How am I not subscribed? All right? Whatever? Maybe I
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  Speaker 1: subscribed on my phone? Must must I swarry three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and so? Oh fourteen thousand sons quite the big one
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  Speaker 1: barbering Goldie and I wanted to go into this video here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 1: It is. I didn't know about it if you if
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  Speaker 1: you remember, well, I turn the volume off on this
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  Speaker 1: where you at boom. I gotta get I guess I
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: have to get the here it is. That's cool. That
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  Speaker 1: didn't work. Good, good that it didn't work the way
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want it to. So when you were okay, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: we'll send it you yes, yes, sending me an email?
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  Speaker 1: Please do me? So, please do me the favor. You
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  Speaker 1: got your phone working, We'll do it that way. I
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  Speaker 1: miss you. Yeah, you were on the show and you said, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: what about the video with the eyes blinking you? What
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about? It's on there here, I'll send
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  Speaker 1: you the link. You can put it on the end
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  Speaker 1: of the interview. And I was like, okay, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wish i'd known about it beforehand, but now that
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  Speaker 1: I do, I want to actually get into it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more because it was so cool that you
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  Speaker 1: started by saying, Hey, I'm here, guys, and yeah, I'm here, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm recording nice little let's say so the Cloker to
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  Speaker 1: Bono camera video.
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  Speaker 4: March, Well, just because it happened literally from where the cloaker.
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  Speaker 1: Was really from the from the cloaker that you've seen
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  Speaker 1: across the path.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the cloaker video that was filmed back
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  Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen. Oh that video literally, yeah, literally like
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  Speaker 4: one hundred feet from where that happened.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so it's really close by. Okay, right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's see. Let's get you have this really cool little
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  Speaker 1: you're talking and I got you right here and the
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  Speaker 1: live in the flesh and I'm going to listen to
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  Speaker 1: it here all right, Okay, So where should I pick
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  Speaker 1: it up at? Right here? Ish sure, heiish, Okay, I'm
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: recording there. It is. It's over here on the side. Guys. Yeah, yep,
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  Speaker 1: I'm recording right there, yes, way a.
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  Speaker 3: Couple of times. Still it's easy to see. I'm recording
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  Speaker 3: mm hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Seconds into that video, the cloaker two point zero flashed
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  Speaker 5: his eyes in my direction. I was filming at sixty
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  Speaker 5: frames per second, and the eyes appear in just five frames.
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  Speaker 5: In low light, my camera records darker than it actually is.
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  Speaker 1: Incredible cool, huh it is, it is. It is absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 1: So so let me get I don't know why it
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  Speaker 1: takes me on different screens, but so you're just filming
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  Speaker 1: and how did you even see that? Because I when
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  Speaker 1: when I first saw it, right, I was so happy
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  Speaker 1: that you slowed it down for me and many probably
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  Speaker 1: many other people. I'm just like, what are we looking
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  Speaker 1: at here? And then I'm recording.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, what happened was I'd had acupuncture earlier
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  Speaker 4: that day, and the acupuncturist had told me about how
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  Speaker 4: when she gets home from work, she spends fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 4: meditating and then she's been going out for and having experiences.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I'm supposed to relax for the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the.
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  Speaker 4: Day after acupuncture, So okay, Well, I came back to
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  Speaker 4: the cabin and I meditated. I went to use the
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  Speaker 4: same program that she had and did that for half
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  Speaker 4: an hour or fifteen minutes. And then I needed something
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  Speaker 4: to work on. I needed a project, and I was
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  Speaker 4: thinking about this experience I'd had years ago, but I
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  Speaker 4: didn't have any kind of footage or anything. And I thought, well,
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  Speaker 4: I could just walk up the trail a little ways
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  Speaker 4: and just take a couple of minutes of footage and
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  Speaker 4: a couple of pictures, and then I could just do
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  Speaker 4: a voiceover video and tell this story, and that'll give
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  Speaker 4: me something to work on, right, So I walked up
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  Speaker 4: there to this place we called the Field of Dreams.
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  Speaker 4: You know, ever since the poker event happened there.
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  Speaker 3: If you, if you film it, they will come.
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  Speaker 4: So I got up there, I took my photographs, and
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  Speaker 4: I turned around and I was just going to record
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  Speaker 4: the walk back to the cabin, and I turned the
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  Speaker 4: camera on and I just I make a habit of
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  Speaker 4: always letting them know when I'm recording, so I said,
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  Speaker 4: I'm recording, and I just I didn't see it happened.
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  Speaker 4: But I just maybe subconsciously I did because I knew
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  Speaker 4: that something had happened.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't know what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And I kept the camera rolling for probably the next
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  Speaker 4: two or three minutes, headed back toward the cabin. And
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  Speaker 4: when I got back here, I just I just knew,
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  Speaker 4: I just something had happened. I don't know why I
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  Speaker 4: knew or how I knew, but I knew something happened.
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  Speaker 4: So I went over the footage from that walk and
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  Speaker 4: I looked at every bit of it, and I couldn't
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  Speaker 4: see anything.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, well, it wasn't leaving me alone. I
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  Speaker 3: knew that there was something in there.
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  Speaker 4: So I went back and I looked at it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a little slower, and sure enough I caught the eyes
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  Speaker 4: on the second trip through.
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  Speaker 3: And and what's even.
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  Speaker 4: Cooler about it is that later on when I started
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  Speaker 4: working on it even more, and and you know, I
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  Speaker 4: did the the uh where I recreated it as best
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  Speaker 4: I could.
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  Speaker 3: I put a lantern in the trees and measured it
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  Speaker 3: all out beyond that.
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  Speaker 4: Little fork tree. I mean, it was perfect to be
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  Speaker 4: that it looked through the fork trees. That gave me
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  Speaker 4: like a sight for the recreation and on the other
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  Speaker 4: side of that fork tree is like sixty feet of
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  Speaker 4: open air.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing in there, there's no cover. And then there's
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  Speaker 3: a little clump of.
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  Speaker 4: Bushes little trees at the far end, so that would
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  Speaker 4: be about sixty five feet from that little bush.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we measured it out.
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  Speaker 4: I put my friends out in the road and everything,
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  Speaker 4: and so those eyes aren't nearly as small as they look.
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  Speaker 4: They're probably a juvenile I'd say, about the same size
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  Speaker 4: as goldies for comparison when I moved it out onto
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  Speaker 4: the and put them side by side. But the one
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  Speaker 4: thing that you can see in those five frames. The
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  Speaker 4: first frame, you look closely, you can see his eyes
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  Speaker 4: behind the glow. And in the third frame you can
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  Speaker 4: see the shape of his cloaked head becomes visible with
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  Speaker 4: the eyes in the middle. And then in the very
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  Speaker 4: last frame, just as he's turning his head away, you
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  Speaker 4: can actually look. You can see his pupil and brow.
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  Speaker 4: You can literally look right into his eyes.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild and it's like you don't see it, but
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  Speaker 1: you can. So it proves this I would say, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, like you know, when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: these scientists, you know, I don't know what that's all about,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: because now you know, the UFO thing is out there, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're gonna that's we're gonna put our finger
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  Speaker 1: on that. Now. We were like, yeah, we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about since the eighties, bro, we know that aliens exist.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the big foot stuff. Yes, the first
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  Speaker 1: thing I knew that aliens existed. I just had to use,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you know, common sense. You know, we're a planet going
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  Speaker 1: around a small star on one of the outer rings
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  Speaker 1: of one of billions upon billions of freaking you know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: galaxies in the Solar System or in the Solar System
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: in the universe that we know of. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: there's there's aliens. Okay, goold Now what about this ship large?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: There's these large bipedal they look like us, but they
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: don't they have when you look in their eyes, you
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: have a different You can't want to fire upon them.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't have that look. And you're just like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: what is that? Something's Randy? What the hell is his name?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: He's from northern Minnesota, and he gets he gets some
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: mind speak and they told him what they're not. He's like, yeah,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: we're we were interdimensional and yes, we come in and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: out of portals. We are the WU and we are real.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a little of both. They got a foot
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: in both worlds.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: You know, what can you tell you? Randy Bauer? Oh, Pam,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: thank you so much, Pam. Randy Bauer. He was probably
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the last one I had on before the three week hiatus,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and he had on.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I just had on the freaking monster quest guy Doug
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: high check. Uh. That was pretty other than my microphone
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: not working. I asked I had to check the day
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to make sure it was on, and it wasn't. It's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: been fun. It's been a fun battle. But then when
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I did I get to talk to someone like you
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: because I don't know you, of course, but we spent
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: an hour with each other. We had a good rapport.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I know, I could make off colored jokes. I'm I'm
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: bleeding here. Anybody want pizza? What the hell is that? Uh?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: That's a Femeroni? Yeah, and it's uh, it was. It
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: was fun and easy. And then like I looked at
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: my schedule and I've seen that you were coming up,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and you were you were you know, I wrote you
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: two days ago or yesterday, I think it was, Hey, tomorrow. Yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I just wanted a friend of her minder. You're like,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: no problem. Oh and then you write me today, Tom
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you wrotet the wrong time. It's not two forty five
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: for me, it's true. And I had to go. I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: had to literally put up four fingers and go east
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: cast thick forty five. I'm a five ft five and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the four three three. You're like, yes, that's it. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like, okay, I'll see you then,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: hoping like you won't say I won't be able to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: make it because I got the time wrong right, And
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you were like, no, So what can you tell us
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: about them that you haven't already said? What has been?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been doing this for a moment since
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I think you said the nineties. What is something? Has
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: something changed? Have they opened up more to you? Have
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: they shown you something that's just been.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, these last few years, it seems like
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: it's just one thing after another. They I think that
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: they just we've reached the point where they trust me
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: to just honestly forward what.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: They show me.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like I go off on these camping
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: trips and you know, I get a giant fingerprint. You know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: with with the witnesses right there to back me up
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: of how it happened. And you know, or you know
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: the hand where when we were in the eastern Washington
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: doing a recreation and while we're recreating a little sasquatch
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: jumping out of a tree, another little sasquatch jumps out
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: of a tree, you know, or the eyes or the
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: fairies or any of these things. You know, it's like
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: they do these things on purpose because they know that
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: we're going to forward this information in an honest and
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: respectful way. You know, there's not going to be a
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: bunch of hype and there's not going to be any elaborations.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So you say they're playful. Is that what you're basically telling?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: They're very playful.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well they're playful, and I think they really want
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: the world to know that they are there. They they
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: you know, they want the planet to have some respect,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: the forest to be treated right, you know, people going
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: out and just shooting things up and polluting and cutting
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: it down as you know, that's their home. You know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: they're not quite ready to come out and you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: sit down next to us at the campfire, but you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I think they do want the world to know that
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: there's more going on out here than what we all
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: were raised to believe, you know, and maybe have a
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: little curiosity and respect when you go into the forest,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: see what happens.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's there's a consciousness that that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: is uh I, there's a consciousness of awareness that is
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: waking up. Because I'm gonna be honest with you. Okay,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this might get me demonetized for this freaking I don't care,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: but I honestly don't care anymore. Go follow me over
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: on on the MP three side. I'm going better of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it or anyway. But like, this whole carbon credit thing
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is driving me up a wall because where's the carbon
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: credits go? It goes to somebody's bank account, and then
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the Europeans are like, look how well we do and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: then they sell that carbon credit to like India or China.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: So it's all it's all just a it's all a ruse,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you know. It's like, so, so there's that, and then
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: if there's also more CO two in the atmosphere, that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: means the plants love it. I mean should we be
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: doing that?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: No?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: But should we be afraid always constantly to make you
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: feel like you, there's something wrong with the mere fact
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that you exist, like you're here and you're polluting the planet.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: You're a bad person. That's what the basic game is
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: is to make you feel uncomfortable with your own existence,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and once.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: You open your heart, maybe more of a get back
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: to nature thing, you know, remember where you know, where
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: you come from. You know that we've only got so
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: much space on this planet and so many trees and
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: so much land and so much clean water.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And got someone who's read your book. Oh really, yeah, well,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: thank you so much, Michigan sand Man. He writes, how'd
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I missed this? Hi, Barb, great book you wrote?
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Oh awesome, thank you so glad you liked it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only so much. I agree, But but there's
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: also there's also instead of the fear, I think there
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: should be some type of other way of going about it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And I do think there's a connection. Thank you, respect,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: mutual respect for everything and everyone, love for everything and everyone. Right, Yeah,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: do we miss.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Something grade in?
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit of how do you do a
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: little bit of let's work together, you know, a little
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: bit how do you put your pants on the same
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: way I do?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, maybe you can hang out. We got to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: go bowling, Barbara, that's what we're going. We're going. Okay,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I've never been to Washington State, but you can come
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: down here in New Mexico anytime you like.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I just had my one of my students actually come
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: from Poland that was weird. And she was like, oh,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm coming over in Mexico in February. I'm like okay,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And I said, where what part are you're going to be? Oh,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I'll get my attenerator. I said, you're going to be
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: in my town on a Saturday. So I went and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: she only had like an hour, so we like sat
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: real quick with her boyfriend and my girlfriend. We just
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: had like coffee and like carrot cake and they bounced.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I mean I've been trying to get some
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of you big foot people down here to walk you
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: into my woods here and see if you see anything,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: because down here we have jaguars and snakes and stuff. Yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: there's been dogman sightings around here though they are started
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah. Actually, there was a Facebook post that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: got sent to me by somebody who said I saw something.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it was I was on my motorcycle.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: This is what I saw, and it was a rend dish.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: This is kind of what I saw, which was an
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: AI picture. And then I said, look, it's happened here
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: in the first thing. Someone says, hey, that's an AI picture.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I know that because it's in Spanish. But yeah, so
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that's been happening down here too, So that's a new
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: development within the last I don't know about six months,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: six months, that's starting to happen. Yeah, Hello, hey, Pam, Hey,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: how's it going, buddy? Oh yeah, here we go where
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you get your book out there so people can the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: links in the description below. You want to go over
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and get Barbara's book, please do me a favor, go
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: over and now, and and it would be really helpful
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: because she's got a lot of good insights as to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing. Now. Someone mentioned to me, actually it
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: was Pam. She mentioned the fairy video, which I actually
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: haven't looked into yet. I kind of glanced at it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: real quick.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really something.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Another one of those things that I wasn't expecting and
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't know happened until later.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: At the camera.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Which one.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's that one, right, there fairies.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: On Bigfoot Mountain. All right, let's take a look at
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that too. These are some of the evidence that Barbara
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: has collected. Okay, they're gonna imagine. Now, I'm not going
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to imagine. I'm going to imagine the damn thing. Just
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: going get on through, get all through there. I don't
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: have money to pay for that, but one of these
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: days I will. Are we done? Can I skip it now?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: All right? Bye? Okay? Cool? All right?
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: We should I be looking in the video from my
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: notes November fifteenth, twenty twenty three.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: We went for a walk up the mountain. You're gonna want.
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: To go forward a little bit, Okay, yeah, I don't
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: remember exactly how far into this.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Actually, this might not be the right video. This might
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: be a follow up one.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, let's go back. Let me go back
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and look for it then. All right, yeah that one
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: maybe there's short here.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do that one. Yeah, that one there, that's
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: a good one.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: It's only a minute long.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, so that'll show you. That'll go cut right to
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: the meat of it there.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, well that right there? Yeah, how do I zoom?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: How do I make that large? That's large as I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: can make it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: So yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: So it started out as a bright white like orb
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: and then it morphed into the shapes, first like a baby,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: and then like a tinker bell, and.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Then the second one.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: It was down the road probably one hundred and thirty
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: feet where it first became visible, and it passed me
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: in less than half a second, so that came out
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: to a minimum of one hundred and sixty seven miles
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: per hour that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: It was moving when it went past me.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And just this was an other one of those things
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: where I knew something was happening, but I didn't know what.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: So I just turned the camera on and before I
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: started walking down when the bright one flew at me,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I had turned the camera on and I didn't know why.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I just felt like it. I had to turn the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: camera on.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: And there was a little waterfall coming down one side
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: of the road and then out underneath on the other side.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: So I turned it on and I aimed it at
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: the waterfall.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: But well, when I first turned it on, my glove
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: was covering the screen. So I just turned the camera on,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: turned it off, repositioned it in my hand, turned it
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: back on, made my little clip turn around, took another
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: little clip and then started walking down the road and
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: that's when they flew at me.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: So then all I really wanted to do.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: What I was thinking is, you know, I feel like
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I have to have the camera on. I don't know why,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: but you know what I'm gonna do.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna aim.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: It as I'm walking so that it's framing Goldie with
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: the trees in the background, and I can have a
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: pretty screen shot.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: So when I got back to the cabin, I went
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: through the video.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I did found a nice screen shot, hosted it and
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: a friend said, oh, it looks like a sasquatch down
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: in the trees in the background reading a newspaper. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking, okay, well, I know that's not really probably happening,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: but before I delete this video, I'm going to go
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: ahead and take a closer look at the background. So
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I went to that spot and I zoomed in and
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: as I'm doing it, something shot across the screen. Well,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: so then I backed out and that's when I saw
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: the first one, you know, the one that was really bright.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: And then after that, then I looked even closer. I
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: saw the second one that the one that was moving
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: so fast, came right toward me.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Well, then I thought about those first clips that I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: had made. Well, I checked both of the ones of
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the waterfall.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: There was nothing but in that like two second clip,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: when my glove was on and the camera was just
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: aimed at the ground, two of them shot past, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I had to slow it down to like one sixteenth.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Speed to be able to get a look at the
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: streak of them going by. They were so fast.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: And then a few days later a friend came and
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: we went back up there, and then that day I
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: actually got to see him with my own eyes. The
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: two of the fast ones, it seems like there's one
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: that's really bright that changes her shape, the tinker Bell
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: type one, and she kind of meanders around and.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: She's fast, but she's not as fast as the other ones.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: The other ones are just like these gray balls that
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: are just so fast that they're just there and gone.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: You know, you don't even notice them coming because they're
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: just if you're looking in the right place, you see
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: them as they go by.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: They make a hummingbird seem slow and.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Oh having egg money, Austin Holand is truly going a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: great a kind Holand dish as conn Deutsch and Vid
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: kolemen owns to kind of as member signed.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So I spoke German to somebody from falland but it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: kind of close and they might understand it. Okay, I'm sorry,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: oh el hi. These are a lot of interesting. The
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: question I wanted to ask you was like, so that's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: twice you told me that you knew something was happening,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: but you didn't know. Where does that come from? Where
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: does this intuition? What did this something that that's been
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: developing through the years.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I think it's I think that there's a mental connection
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: that happens.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: You know, you spend enough time around them and they
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: get into your head.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: There was a medicine woman a couple of years ago
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: told me that they watched through my eyes and that
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: when they connect to people that they can be in
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: your head and they will not only watch through your eyes,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: but wildlife and birds and anything they want to. And
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: she said that you that it can work both ways,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: that if you want to know where they're at, just
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: try to picture yourself in your mind, in your mind's eye,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: picture yourself, and when you can see a clear view
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: of yourself, look at where that view is from, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: that's where they are watching.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: You from so that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Wow, that sounds like that sounds like remote viewing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so, I think, And you know, I don't
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: hear a lot. I don't, you know.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think of myself as like a medium or
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: anything like that. But when they want you to know something,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: they are capable of speaking and letting you hear it
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: and are just giving you an impression of feeling a vision,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: a picture, you know, things like that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really pretty subtle.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: But I'd say when you feel it, go with it,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: because it seems to work out pretty well.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: This lady here, Northwest Native Tracker is a Native American
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: from Oregon. I've had her on before and she is
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I called the episode the last of her kind. She
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is the last medicine woman from her tribe and she's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: decided one of the other ones also have the Mama
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: bear Claw, who is also incredible, and they both kind
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of connect up and talk to me in different ways
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to give me some type of understanding through those eyes,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: which I really really really appreciate. And she said everything
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that you are now saying is correct. She was like
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: from my family, and she talked about her walk about
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I guess you would call it, and that's also incredible
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: episode guys, if you get a chance to go back
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and listen to that one. There's no video from her alf,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: but the audio is when one peered out and offered
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: their help, like can I help you? Like it's scared
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the Bejesus out of me. I gotta be honest with you.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: It's just Wow. The more I learned, the more questions
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I have, and I think, you know, people like yourself, Tom,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: many many others. I just feel like, it's just so
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: strange that you guys wouldn't want to talk to me.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And it's it's cool at the same time, it's just
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's people go all, you're the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: bigfoot guy. I'm like, no, I'm not. It's called the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: eye of Jubiter. It's not called the eye of Bigfoot.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: It's just I like everything. So some Yeah, So you
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: guys out there listening to some of the next episodes
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: are going to be I guess some ancient history coming up.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And I also have a man. He's mister Roberts and Chilla.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: He's on here. He's also a member. You guys can
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: become a member to and get episodes early wherever he is.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: He was just on here Robert and Chilla. Anyway, he's
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: coming on, He's coming on. I think it's next week.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And we went through his life story of Guardian Angel
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and many many other things, strange occurrences, really wild stuff.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get back to the reason that I
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: initially contact you, other than maybe Barbara Hartman telling me
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: was the oh yeah, you know that. You know the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the the the video of where the Bigfoot is cloaking, right,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you've seen that video, right, I'm like, what are you
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: talking about? What are you talking about? And yeah, Barbara
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: shot but I can get her in contact. Would you
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: can just go talk to her and she'll probably be
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: on your show. And so I went and looked at
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: this video and it is it is okay, So for me,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: it goes my opinion. This is my opinion. There's other
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: ones too, but Patterson Gimlin. Then it goes to the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: fence climber, which is M. K. Davis the fence climber,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: And then is this one. Those are my my favorite
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: three where I'm going look at the flex of the muscle,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: look at the step over the fence, and this one
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: is like, what the hell is that so welcome? Thank
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you for giving me? What the hell is that?
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Very welcome? And the video is attached.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: To it because it's one hundred feet away from where
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: that happened, right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Right, So this is the breakdown. That's someone actually someone
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: else breaking it down. Big Foot Tony, what a great name.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Broke down your video. So I'm going to show the people. Oh,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get that, and we're gonna get another doom
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: trying to sell me some some shampao even though I'm
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: bald or something. Let's see. Yeah, all right, let's get there.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Oh this is mcconna leebre. It's basically like Amazon from
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Mexico Market. Okay, yeah, we're going to get through it. Oh,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: if you guys want your day one reward of fighting
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: some level with a slanme lady? All right, moving, all right,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I watched mc gabby. All right, so we're gonna hear
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: it's gonna we're gonna see exactly where it is. I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: know I went through with you just before on the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: regular one, but live as a different feel So could
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you set this up for far but what was going
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: on this day? And tell people.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: We had a group of people came to camp with us,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: and on the first day, I took everybody on a
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: little tour up the trail behind my cabin here, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I was just going to show him some structures, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: some broken trees and some things that were interesting. And
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: my dad and his wife and another lady had stayed
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: on the main trail just a little farther ahead, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: they were just sitting on some logs waiting for us.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: And then the rest of us, think there was five
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: or six of us, went off the main trail, maybe
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: just one hundred feet or so to look at a
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: tree that it was interesting because it had it was
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: a broken section of tree and both ends of it
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: were suspended off the ground, you know, they were hung
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: up on things, and something had hit it hard enough
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: to break it in the middle without knocking either one
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: of those ends.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Down to the ground.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: So we were just kind of looking at that and
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out what was going on. And Claudia actlely,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: She's standing in front of me, and I know she
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: kept kind of looking off to the side, so every
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: time she'd look over there, I was looking to see
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: what she was looking at, and I wasn't seeing anything.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: But fortunately I had my camera was on. It was
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: attached to my walking stick, so I wasn't like intentionally
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: recording anything. It was just on in case, you know,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: something happened to pick up audio or something. I didn't
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: really expect i'd pick up anything visual with it. But
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: it happened to be on and recording aimed in the
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: right direction when it happened. And then, uh, Claudia, she
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: kept looking over there, and she looked back, and then uh,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I saw this little black headed like dome headed, triangular
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: shape just popped up on the other side of this
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: log and it took off running. And uh so I thought,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: that's what it happened, you know. But then when we
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: got back to camp later and I looked at the
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: film and I there was a lot more in the
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: film than what I seen.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: That's that's saying the absolute least at possible. What a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: great way to step it up. I saw a little something, Tom.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: It was like a smudge in the corner. For those
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: who haven't seen this, you know, go ahead and get
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: your popcorn and grab your hats and whistle at the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: neighbor or whatever whatever you know, cool wordings you want
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to say, But it's right around here. And you're going
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to see something and I will direct your attention to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Okay, So right here is does this
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: gets us?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So something had to have hit it really heart.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: So right in this area. Are you seeing the mouse barber?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: It's really small on my screen. Oh yeah, I can
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: see it. That's okay, right right around the tip of
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: that brand.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Right around the tip of this little branch here, and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: keep your eyes on that, guys. And I think it
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: would be slowed down also in this video, but it should.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Be like a little bird just before it happens.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. I think I must have missed that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Fast right in the middle to break it there, to
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: not break these smaller pieces that are supporting it either.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Here there is you know, yeah, like a thrust and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: not a hang.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: You know, something hard and fast. Amount of did you
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: see that? Wow?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: You know that you've seen it right away with incredible
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: not a hang?
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, something hard and fast. Amount of time
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: was that? Did you see that?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for this burst of light, like a thrust.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Right on the tip of a little yeah, a light there.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It's it's I will have to play out a little
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: bit without the volume going now, so you can see
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: right here, guys that it's on a uh huh, yeah,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I see what it looks like. Yeah, I got you.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It's like here, it's between this vine. What are we
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: looking at now? I guess that's later it went that way.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: So, but Sam kind of stepped in front of the camera,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: so it just dived into a hole over there.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's actual there's an actual channel on there. Pamela
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and Tom Daniel your legends in the podcast ball Thank you, Bruce,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: good Lord, I love you too, buddy legend. All right, sure,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I'll take you no yet anyway, I appreciate it. Yeah,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: but dude, so there's actual there's another channel that grabbed
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that video right and really slowed it down, really zoomed
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it in and really took it apart. And it's one
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: of those videos once again that gives you way more
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: questions than it gives you any type of answers. You know,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, what did you what did you glean from that?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: What did you glean from that? You'd like, all, I've
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: seen this before and now I caught it on video
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: or is this before the time you saw it?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I had seen things like that before.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: The one that was following the elk had like vanished
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: behind an invisible curtain. And I'd seen, you know, trees
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: being shaken by something that wasn't there, and I'd seen
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: vegetation being mowed over by something that wasn't there. But
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I had always rationalized it, you know, And this was
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: at this point, you know, I could no longer deny
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: the stranger side of sasquatch.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: You know, I had been.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I'd gone into it thinking it was just another form
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: of wildlife, and you know, if I thought about it
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: hard enough, I could figure out how these things were happening.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: It was, you know, I could rationalize the wo away,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: is what I thought. And then after the Cloaker video,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I could no longer deny these things. And it wasn't
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: long after that that I went off to my first
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: trip to the Blue Mountains and it was cemented in
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: me there.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: So tell me about that. Tell me about the Blue Mountains.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Well, that was my first visit over to Tom Cantrell's
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: area over there in twenty fifteen. I was a member
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: of the Bigfoot Community group and I was one of
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the admins, and we were having a.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Group camp out over there.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: But at the same time Tom was also having his
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: camp out at d Duck Springs, where the the Freeman
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: footage happened. Well, the road into d Duck Springs was
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: too messed up and he couldn't have his camp there,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: so we combined the two of them at another location.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: And it was just one thing right after another. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: got to watch glowing eyes turn on right there in
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: the yard, just a few feet behind my friends. That
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: happened two nights in a row. I got to hear
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: whoops and knocks, and I got a little gentle sizzle.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: It was kind of a little bit of infrasound, but
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: it wasn't harsh or anything. Got to see a sasquatch
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: rocking back and forth in the moonlight, but you know
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: the sounds.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That sounds oddly romantic.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I was sitting there all by myself in the dark,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: and I just it was one of those experiences where
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I was one of my first big things where I
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: was all by myself and had to ample it on
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: my own, and I just I was trying to record,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: but my camera had died, and I kept looking over
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: there and he's rocking back and forth, and I'm just
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: kind of trying to think of something to say, and
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, it's rude to stare, so I'm not
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: going to stare over there.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: But every time I look, yep, you're still there.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Do you know why they did that. I've heard this
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: many times before that they do this this little thing,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: and I've seen videos where they do that. Do you
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: have any insight into that or it's just something they do.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: It's like a like a nervous tick. It's like it's
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: like it's like a kid sitting on the bench getting
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: ready to go in for the basketball game. You know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like when am I going to get in there and
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: they coach get in there? Yeah?
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all stretched out ready to go.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: When you imagine I have one of those on your
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: team seven foot tall foot tall dude.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Oh they're so fast, man, they could be everybody.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Then then we can put the ladies in the sports.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: If the female sasquatch shays I'm playing on the NBA,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you best you better put her in there.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: That ball just appear where it needs to go and
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: nobody will ever know how it got there.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I got a can freaking teleport from one part of
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the court to the other one, and just like this
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: is not fair.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I think that would be a fun game. I would
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: watch that.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Game in the very least, would be a very good
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: video game, you know, sasquatch basketball or something that would
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: be really he's heating up.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Where's the cloaker?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: That would be the name of our team. And the
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: logo is just a blank just a blank sheet of nothing. Yeah,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: it's like one of those remember those old plastic cards
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: that you get that you have to turn and you
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: can see things from one angle and then at the other. Yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: we've got the market look at this me and you're
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: starting a business already. We got the marketing ready.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: So so, not to be too negative, but there's there
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: seems to be in a lot of these people, this
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: red carpet affair I call them. I call it red carpeenters.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: You know I'm talking about where Yeah, there's people, I believe,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: there's people who are genuine like yourself and many many,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: many others. But there's other ones who want to use
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: their experiences to somehow make money and be famous.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with writing a book because of
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: your experiences and people like it. Great. If you make
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a buck, fine, But there's there's a lot of these
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: people who are that's there. It's their whole mo and
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to deal with that quite really,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I don't know. I don't
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: know what you think about that. But there's something that
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think people talk about because they're worried of
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the backlash. But there's something. There's certain people, no names
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to be mentioned, that do it, I think for the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: wrong reasons.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Well, it just goes back to the whole respect thing,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're sharing your stuff respectfully, you know,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: you want to help other people understand their own experiences,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: and you want to share the information for the right reasons,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: you know, that's great. You know, if if your name
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: is out there and your face is out there, you're
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: selling books or making movies or whatever, whatever your calling is,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: whatever your path leads you down, and if you're doing
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: it in a respectful and honorable way, that's great.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yes. But there's that, But there's also the ones with
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the hey look at this person, Yeah, that's where I
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: have But you find that anywheres because whether you want
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: to admit to or not, people are interested in it
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: because it is a form of entertainment.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Well that's the thing you got to be discerning about that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: You know, are these people as their focus their own
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: ego themselves, or is their focus on the information that
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: they're sharing, you know, and even then you have to
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: pay attention to that information because that can be you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: twisted around and uh, you know, filtered through their own
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: personal egos and beliefs. And you know, people are going
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: to share things from their point of you you know,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: from their perspective, how they've experienced it, you know, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: you can pretty much tell when somebody's you know, being honest,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: when that with that, and when it's something that connects
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: with you, when it's something that you're and you know
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: you go, oh, hey, I know what he's talking about
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: there that that that reaches me, that that touches me,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: I can understand. Then there's other people and it's just noise.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: You just want to make them go away.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but it's not always so easy for everyone
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: to discern. You know, there's certain people who have a
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: certain ability to do so. And but who are you
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to also be the filter for that? You know, like
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: this person, you got to watch this person or this
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: person isn't any for the right reason. That's that's a
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: hard thing to do. I just wanted to kind of
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: get your take on it, and that's exactly how I feel.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: It's a bit of self discernment and you can tell
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: when someone's uh, kind of you know, being a bit egotistical.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I guess it's the best way to say it. Just
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: trying to look at the good Lord, someone's really fast. Here,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: you guys are rocking and roll Over is Barber's Facebook
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: and then put that the longer does Barbershoote. Type it
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: on Facebook and you will find her pictures. Here is
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Barbera's book The Unseen Audience Walking with Sasquatch. You can
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: find that over on Amazon. H It is always a pleasure. Yeah,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: we're just some. Is there certain people who also do
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: like a Howard Stern type thing where they kind of
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: go they crap on other one so that they build
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: themselves up. There's those kind of people. Yeah, you see
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: it all. I've seen it all in the comedy.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: It really doesn't always tell you.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Through the mediums of artistic things that I've done. So
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: as a musician, there's always that band who thinks they're
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: better than everybody, right, and then there's the ones who
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: are cool that you hang out with, you have a beer,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: maybe you smoke a joint whom before you hit the stage.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: These are great guys, great girls. We have a fucking blast.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Hey can I use your app? Sure, you can use
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: my app. But then there's the ones that are like
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, all right, comedians are the
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: same way. They they there's a lot of them who
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: go they douce comedy just to get to television, you know,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: And I always wanted to do it for the art
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of the comedy. So like the real essence of it,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and that's what I try to help. The ones that
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I see who have that essence, like yourself, Tom Barbara,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Who's who's coming on, I can't think of his name again, Randy,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Randy Bauer. One of these one of these people, one
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of these gentlemen. They they they have the real like, look, man,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell this is. This is
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: what I'm seeing, and this is what I want to
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: present to you, right. But then there's just people who
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: boom boom, lasers and all or all the AI stuff
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: that's coming out now. People are really afraid of that,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm not because I think people are gonna want
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: that real in the end, Tom tell a joke, No, no, Robert,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Randy Bauer, Yes, Randy Bauer is coming. People are going
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to want that authentic, that authentics, you know. I mean
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: people now they can say five words tell what kind
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: of music they want, and it makes a whole song
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: from them. But I like imperfections. That's why music from
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the sixties and the seventies are always going to be
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: like the favorite of most people because of the imperfections,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the like the fret buzz or the time where you
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: hear you know, the drummer kind of hit the side
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of the snare at the same time, but they kept
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: it in the recording, and I think people are gonna
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: want that. So what is your take on all this
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: AI that's coming out, Barbara, Well.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: On one hand, it's it's a little bit disturbing seeing
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: how how it's used to imitate real life without and
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: without really coming any sign that's saying that's telling you
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: this isn't real life, you know.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: But on the other hand, but.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: I think it could be a really useful tool too.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: So it's just it's something that's got to be used responsibly.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: I think you know, as far as using it with art,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I think it's a great tool for art. But then again,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: you got to make sure that you're not taking advantage
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: of other people that actually put a lot of time
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: and effort into creating the art that it's being taken from.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that's so hardy. Like what I think
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: eventually is going to happen is this is I've already
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: kind of said this over I called myself. I called
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: myself Nostra Thomas, where like, they'll be able to make
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: these fake videos so well, whether it be like a
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: government leader, and then they're going to say, you know what, Okay,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to sign it to the Internet
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: with an ID of sorts. That way they can track
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it back to whoever did it and then go ahead
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and charge you. But then we're down another really slippery path.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what that is. But on the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: positive side, you know, it does help the many things
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: like when I'm trying to present an idea that like
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: when you tell me a story, like for example, you
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: tell me a story or someone else tells me a story,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I'm interpreting what you said through the way you told me,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and AI can help me do that, you know what
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, instead of me actually painting a picture, which
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I could do, but I would take me a couple
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: hours and it might turn out bad.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: So there's that, Yeah, when you need an image to
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: you know, to help, you know. I think sometimes I
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: think that the Sasquatch and you know, whoever else is
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: halfway through the veil beside them. I think they are
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: well aware of our media, our music, our video games
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: and all of those things.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: However they tap into it by the way.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: They're just you know, like watching through my eyes right now,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: whether they're looking through our windows, whether they have their
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: own ways of tapping into it, I don't know, but
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: they're aware.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: And I think that.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Part of the reason that I've been given like the
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: fairy footage and the eyes and and things like that
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: at this point in time when they did was because
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: it was pre AI. You know, nobody's ever going to
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: be able to go into those footage, that footage and say,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure right now, whereas a few years down
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: the road from when it happened, that's nobody could ever
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: really say for sure.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: But it's very difficult to authenticate. But I don't know, man,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: there's there's another part of it has hope. So if
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: we were able to create this software in which we
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: can't distinguish ourselves looking at it, there would probably be
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: something that can help us distinguish as to whether or
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: not it's it's real or not. So they'll be like
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: AI detectors or something like that. Maybe Hey, what's up, Tim, Yeah,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm I'm kind of looking forward to it. I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: think I think the next thing that's going to happen
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: is that, Okay, so now the government, we're like, okay,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Jeffery Epstein, all right, we all we all kind of
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: knew that. Alex Jones said it twenty years ago and
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: everyone thought he was insane. Right. He also said that
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove, the people they burned, Yeah, that he went
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: in there and videotape that that was also real, and
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: then everyone was like, oh, yeah, aliens are real and
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: they've been saying that for a very long time. And
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I hope the next one up is that they the
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: forest people, they get recognized as a real thing and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: that they get protected somehow. I don't know how that
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: would work. I think I don't think we should not
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: allow people to walk through the forest. I think that's
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's for everybody. But I think it should
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: be like where there's some type of protection where like
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this habitat can't be touched in this habitat if you
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: want to replant forest because we need paper or whatever
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: the hell we're doing, and we have some type of
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: wildlife management of that nature. Because right now, being this
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: weird freelance like whatever happens, happens things is, I don't
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: think it's beneficial for anybody. There's been like Darryl Dentony
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: had a group that he was constantly talking to in
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: contact with for like two years until they cut down
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the forest in an area and they had He doesn't
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: know where they went anymore. They were displaced. So there
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: are real people like us, but different and they need
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: to have the same respect that we would give people
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: like us because they have that consciousness, they have that
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: ability to reach out and talk and express their ideas.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: So there's something important to that. Limestone paper is better
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: than woodpull paper, all right, we have an industry expert.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, thank you. I agree with that. Yeah,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: hopefully we get there. I don't know how we're going
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to get there. I don't know how we're going to
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: get there. There's some research going on in NC state
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: right now where the collecting evidence to try to make
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: it some type of real scientific thing. But when they
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: don't want you videotaping them, sometimes I think it's great
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm going to videotape you. Did they
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: come to your house and hit the window too? I
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: hit the doors and stuff.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, they tap on the on the house sometimes, Yeah,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: on the walls. Yeah. I hear them outside the window
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: at night, playing in the creek and splashing. And sometimes
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: sometimes they get a little closer to the building and
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: they I've got some fingerprints on the one window over here,
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: and they'll tap on the roof and tap on the wall, and.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah. It seems like what we had a big.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: A few days of heavy storm back in December, and.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: They were having a lot of fun with the high water.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I think that was flooding conditions to us. Is fun
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: for them?
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, dude, you remember when you were a kid
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: when it was raining or be puddles outside. Give me
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: a stick in a puddle, maybe a leaf. I'm good
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: all day long. I'm good. A get mom destroyed the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: peanut butter and joly Sandwich out the window. We actually
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: person who's actually read your book, says Barbe. They have
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: a question. We actually have a question. Do you think
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: they live in another dimension? Oh?
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I think they live in both.
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: I think they're partly here and partly somewhere else. You know,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: the somewhere else might be just a slightly different version
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: of here, slightly faster version of here, because they are
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: extremely fast, and they vibrate at a higher rate than
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: we do.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: So when they come into our.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: You know, vision, our field of view, I think they're
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: just kind of slowing down to be here. So yeah,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: I think they live a little bit here and a
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: little bit somewhere else.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Fascinating. Yeah, it's interesting that you think they vibrate faster.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think you mean that they do physically move faster,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of course, but I think.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: But I think they can vibrate.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I think cloak, that's what, Yes, because it's all because
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: that's what's happening around us anyway. We know that there's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: gamma rays, we know that there's background radiation. We know
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: that radio waves are passing through us right now Wi
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: FI all this stuff, and we know that that's real.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Even though we don't see it, so why wouldn't Because
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: it's also like connected to like the paranormal stuff where you,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: like a ghost will disl like appear and then disappear,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: which I find to be a lot less creepy than
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: when they talk to you. I don't want to be
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: talked to you by nothing.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had that with something calls your name?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I have, yes, really yeah.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: When I was bartending at the Natchiz tavern up here,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I was the cook for several years, and then one
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: night I was it was my very first night bartending
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: by myself, and I had closed the tavern and I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: was in the back of the kitchen sink and it
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: sounded like somebody just snapped a two by four right
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: behind my head, and I heard somebody say my name.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: And I looped through the whole building trying to figure
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: out who was.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: In there, and there was nobody there.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: I called the lady was upstairs, thinking it was her,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: woke her up, went right back to the sink to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: pick up my chores where I had left off, and
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: bam right behind my head again and my name again.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: And so I don't know what that was.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And you kept working there.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: That was a lot of weird things happened there.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, yes, Bruce has actually had a conversation
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: with the ghost at a cemetery. Bruce Brown. It's kind
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: of came out recently after he retired. He's a former
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: many many type of law enforcement agencies. You know, Sheriff's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: office is, narcotics, all kinds of things. He retired and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: he has a lot of sasquatch, a lot of dog
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: man and a whole ton of paranormal. And one time
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: he was telling me a story he was on the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: show where he actually had a conversation with a ghost
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: in the cemetery for forty five minutes.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: Oh wow, you have to go back and check out
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: the lives, baby, it's all over there. So he's asking,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: have you ever had a conversation with the ghosts?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think I have, no, Huh.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I've talked to them, but I haven't had any like
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: where they go, you know, like, what do you want
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: to what kind of how do you want your coffee? Regular?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Which is you know, a sugar and cream. That's a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: regular for guys you don't know, the older people like
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: being barbed that regular is sugar and cream. And I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: never had that conversation, but I have heard disembodied voices,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what they were saying. Yeah, right,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: And someone told me that they probably weren't talking to you.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: They were talking to each other.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: And that happens at our camps a lot, where we
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: hear voices that are you can't quite make out what
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: they're saying. A lot of times they sound like kids.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: We think it's the little sasquatches, though, I mean could
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: be hatted too.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I heard mine in the forest here. Yeah,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: and for me it was. It happened twice. And for me,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they were saying. It didn't sound
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: like English, German or Spanish, which are the languages that
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I know. I don't know what. I guess it's Mayan,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: who knows, But it was I can only tell you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: it was like whisp whispery, like where like this.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, I had that right outside my window here the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: There was two nights in a row. I couldn't tell.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: It was just that.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, for me, it's female. Yes, I heard that same stuff, dude,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that wasky man.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: It actually kind of spooked me a little bit because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: not one of the things that I'm used to hearing
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: out here.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, yeah, did you hear it over
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: a particular side of your body? For me, it was
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: always over my left side behind me.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: No, I was.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: I sleep with my window cracked, you know, because I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: listened to the creek and you.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Know, whatever's going on outside, and it was coming from outside.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: So have you ever seen a dog man or do
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: you believe in dog man?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they're they're here. They hang out with the Sasquatches.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: We had a motorcycle club. What's going on? You said,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: hang out? So we're going to use your chronology.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I know that during one of my experiences, the one
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: where I saw the vegetation being mowed over by something
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: that wasn't there, one of the people that was with
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: me saw part.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: Of that experience.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: He saw a little dog man that was on all fours,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: looked at him and turned and leaped over a log
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: and disappeared. And then I've got a photograph of an
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: ex somebody that was up on the hill above me
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: that dropped down and when you zoom in on that,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: he has a very dog like face. And from from
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: what Arla has taught us. They who's all the Arla
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: call it Williams. She's another mentor that uh that has
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: taught me a lot over the years.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: She was Tom's mentor.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: So I think I think Pam told me I need
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to reach out to her. Pam, did I make a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: mistake that I make a boom boo not knowing who
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: that was? Who that is? I have a list here
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: of so many people I need to contact, but I
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: need two bodies to do it all. I need two
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: people to do it all.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: Well, according to Arla, the the dog men and the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Sasquatch are going.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Where you're going to find one, you'll find the other.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: What's her name?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: A R l A?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a R l A.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: What's her last name?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Please call it Williams.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Call it you call it Williams. Okay, yeah, I told
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: you about her. Tom, Yes, but we will forgive you Tom. Yes.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Sorry sorry. I'm in the process of not smoking, putting
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: in air conditioning systems, building walls, getting my uh my
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: girlfriend's house ready to move in in a month. So
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I'm a busy guy. Oh wow, Pam, No, I'm just joking.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I just playing around. Cool. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: know that you had to do. I told you about
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: her time. Yes, interesting, Pam. Wow, Yeah, how are they
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: different than sasquatch? What do you know that's different about
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: them or what you've been told?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I don't really know. I think I see now.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: I always thought they were just kind of the same
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: thing as a sasquatch with a different face that I've
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: seen tracks out here in the woods that were, you know,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: wolf tracks that were way bigger than a wolf. And
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: from what I'm told, they don't have feet like sasquatch.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: They have feet like dogs. So I don't know about that. Yeah,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not the person to ask about the dogs.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a problem. I just wanted to have
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: you want to ask. So first of all, thank you
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: one more time, Barbara for taking out of your day. Uh.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: It's we always have a blast. Always make you laugh,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: which makes me happy. I enjoy making people laugh. You said,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I said the hangout so I was like
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: during a motorcycle gang. I thought it was pretty cool.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Collette Williams, Okay, I felt it differently. See, she actually
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: wrote me, Pam hooks me up and tells me to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: keep ushing reach. I really appreciate it. Barbara Morman time, guys,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: go out and get Barbara's book links in the description,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: go over to your channel, like and subscribe to the channel.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: She also has a Facebook page if you wanted to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: reach out and ask questions politely, don't expect to get
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: an answer immediately because we are busy people in this world.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Just go ahead and reach out to her. She's as
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: you see, she's very friendly, very approachable, and a very
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: sweet person. Barbara, thank you so much for coming on
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: to day and talking with us.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're very welcome, glad to be here.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so very much, and guys, enjoy
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: your weekend. Remember we are the I, we are aware.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Love you all the