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Jeep Recall Fire Risk: What Dealers Actually Do · Jeep Talk Show

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All right, boys and girls, we're back.
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Josh is back with us.
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Josh, I'm glad you could return.
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I know you've had a few things going on.
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We'll get to that a little bit later,
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but glad you can get with us here today.
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All right, so I'm sure you remember,
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I remember, especially since
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this is one of the vehicles
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that I have, the fire risks, the recall--
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Oh yeah.
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That Jeep made for the 2021 through 2025
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Wrangler and Gladiator 1.08.
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Can we just round that to
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1.1 million US vehicles?
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Who's counting?
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(laughing)
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Then this was, if you don't recall,
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this was related to the electric
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hydraulic power steering
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pump electrical
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connection that can overheat
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and cause fire even when parked.
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And I think we made light of this,
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that it was basically
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forced in by a robot
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and they needed the simple fix,
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was just to put another
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spinning robot in there
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so they could spin on the connector
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before they forced it in.
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That's not appropriate, is it?
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That's Harvey Weinstein stuff, isn't it?
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(laughing) Basically, yeah, just a connector
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wasn't seated properly, wiggles loose.
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Maybe it's a faulty connector design,
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or they had a batch of
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bad molds in the connector
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or something like that, and things just
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didn't quite connect
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the way they're supposed to.
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And for those who are in the know,
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when you've got an electrical connection
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isn't rock solid in both mechanical
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and has a rock solid
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connection between two surfaces,
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you're gonna get sparks and other things
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that the metal's gonna degrade,
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and it can generate
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heat as well, exactly.
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And so that, combined with a fluid
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that is theoretically flammable,
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yeah, that can cause a
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no good, very bad day.
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So, I mean, that's fine.
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I finally got my
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recall notice, my letter.
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Oh, wow, that's a long time.
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Yeah, I've actually had it
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for probably two, three weeks.
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Oh, okay, okay.
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But I'm not in a rush to get down there
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because who wants to
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leave their beloved Jeep
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at a dealership overnight or a week?
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Or, I mean, I have fears like this,
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the cam replacements for the 3.6 liters
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where they don't have a
2:12
cam to replace your cam
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in your 3.6 for three and four months.
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I don't know if that's
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still going on or not.
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Good Lord.
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Yeah, so.
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I did talk to my local
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machine shop and just,
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hey, can you guys turn
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one out really quick?
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I mean, you know.
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Well, but then it's not warranted.
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And if you had one go
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bad, because, you know,
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I still don't know for
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sure, but I've heard,
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according to Kevin,
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at Baxter Performance,
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if you put a Baxter Performance oil
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filter adapter on there,
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it keeps oil, a little bit of
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the oil up high in the engine.
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So whenever you go to start it,
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it dumps that oil in on
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the cams and the lifters
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and all that stuff.
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And it's just to make this
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be less likely to happen.
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Hell, Kevin may say it
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doesn't happen at all.
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I don't remember.
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Trying to get him back on
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the show to talk about this,
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especially after Brad at Trail Recon
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was getting ready to
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head out on his Alaska trip,
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I believe it was, and had this issue
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with his 3.7.
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Oh, dang.
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Talk about timing.
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Well, I suppose it better happened then
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than, you know, halfway through the trip.
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Yeah, it was like a week before the trip.
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And he gets it taken care of.
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Somebody gave him or loaned him a cam
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because they weren't
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available for three or four months.
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And now it's happened again.
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I think it's the other cam.
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I think the 3.6 has two
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overhead cams, doesn't it?
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It is a V6, so that
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would make sense, yeah.
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Yeah, so it's happened,
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I think it's happened to the other cam.
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I don't think it was
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the one they replaced.
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So I keep, I reached out to Brad once,
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and I don't want to
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say like he's ignoring me
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because I've only done it
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once, and Brad's a busy guy.
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But I wanted to know if he
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had the Baxter Performance
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oil filter adapter on the Gladiator.
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And after this cam
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replacement, does he have it now?
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Right, I was gonna say,
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that would be the
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more important question,
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is do you have it now?
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Yeah, another thing
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I've heard with people
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having good success
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with is oil stabilizers.
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And it just sort of increases the
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viscosity a little bit.
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The oil helps it keep
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it up in the valve train
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a little bit more.
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And you're using zero weight oil.
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Well, you know, that would
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probably be a good start,
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I suppose, but yeah, I've
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been seeing a lot of that lately.
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And it's just like,
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wait, zero weight, hold on.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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So yeah.
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I know the parts, the
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tolerances are much tighter now.
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And that's the reason why they're going
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with the zero weight.
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But zero weight, to be oil and a zero,
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shouldn't go together.
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It's like oil pressure.
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You see the PSI on the oil is zero?
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That makes me nervous.
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Yeah, even in the old
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XJ, I had some issues
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with some sending
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units and stuff like that.
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And every time I saw that
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oil pressure drop, it's like,
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Well, you got to stop and listen.
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Well, exactly.
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That's just it.
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You become suddenly super hypersensitive.
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You hear the tap, you
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hear the hydraulic clifters.
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What was that vibration?
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You heard that click?
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You hear that tick?
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What was that?
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And so every little
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thing is all of a sudden now
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the engine's failing and
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you're something like that.
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So yeah, no, I get it.
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I get it 100%.
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So, I mean, great
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commercial, if you will,
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for the oil filter adapter.
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And I mean, geez, a
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little bit of assurance
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that an investment in your engine,
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especially when it's a known problem,
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yeah, it's that's a no brainer.
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Yeah, and the Bactere
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Performance Oil Filter Adapter
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is it's very easy to install.
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It basically allows you to
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put a much bigger oil filter
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on your three six, which is always good.
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I believe it's always good.
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Well, it's like back to harking back
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to the days of the four liter inline six,
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the guys were using the FL1A, the Ford,
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was it a 306 oil filter
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or something like that,
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a 351 oil filter.
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I can't remember what
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it's supposed to go on to.
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Those filters are really tiny.
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But it's like twice
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the size of the standard,
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I mean, you could
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actually get like three quarters
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of a quart extra oil
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capacity just by swapping out
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to this oil filter.
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So yeah, there's little
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tricks and tips out there
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kinds of engines and
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stuff that gets you these
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little added improvements.
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Those are the wonderful days of forums
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because you could go to
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the forum and then find out
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all these little tidbits of information.
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Oh, a little bit of
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searching through your lunch break
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or something like that.
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All of a sudden, yeah,
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you're so much more versed
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on one topic than you
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were earlier that day.
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And you figured out that, hey man,
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there's this little trick that I can do.
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For $20, I can add this to
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the Jeep and get this out of it.
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And it's just like,
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it's always an improvement.
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It's always something better.
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It's always something that
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you can do that not only helps
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you learn your
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vehicle a little bit better,
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but also helps maintain
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it and add a little bit
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of longevity to it.
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I mean, it's a
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win-win in everybody's book.
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And yeah, those were the great days.
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Yeah, they really were.
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And then there was the thing about
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getting people to post.
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Everybody wanted to search
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or go and follow a thread,
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a five page thread, get to the end.
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And the original poster
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never came on and said,
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what fixed it?
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Right, yeah.
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It's fixed.
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I don't care about you people anymore.
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What'd you do?
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What'd you do?
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Where did it go?
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All right, anyway, a bit off track there,
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which is not unusual for us.
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So getting back to the
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recall on your own Jeep,
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you've got the notice,
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you've had it for a couple of weeks now.
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Have you been in
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contact with the dealership?
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Have you talked to
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them about availability
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or what it's gonna look
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like or anything like that yet?
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The main thing I wanted to
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know was how long I was going
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to have it leave it there.
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How long I was gonna
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have to leave it there.
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According to the research that I did,
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it takes about an hour.
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Now, you don't have to
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leave it in overnight
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unless maybe you show
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up drunk, disheveled
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and didn't make an appointment.
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Actually, they just said the appointment.
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Yeah, we're gonna put
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you in the drunk tank.
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(laughs)
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You're gonna sleep that
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one off tonight, yeah.
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Well, I think that if you have a schedule
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and I would assume
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that something like this
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would require a
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scheduled service appointment.
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Hey, we need you here at
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nine o'clock on Tuesday,
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whatever it may be.
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And typically, I would
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assume for something like
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an hour's worth of work
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that they're gonna be able
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to get you in and get you out that day,
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especially if they're gonna
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be setting up a technician
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to do a bunch of recall
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work throughout the day.
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Hey, Joe over here in Bay 3,
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today is your day to do recalls.
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It's just slamming
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out one after the other.
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Get your answer on time if
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you don't like doing recalls.
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Exactly, and it's one of those things
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where you get paid by the one.
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It's like, hey, you're
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not gonna make as much
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as you ordinarily would
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on the oil changes today,
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but you're gonna be able
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to knock out 30 of these
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instead of your normal eight oil changes
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or something like that.
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So I mean, I don't know
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what it's gonna look like
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or what it's gonna take,
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but I would assume that
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if you could get and set up
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and maybe insist on an
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early morning appointment,
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that getting that vehicle in
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and dropped off ahead of time
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and getting it there early in the day
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would give them ample enough time
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to do their necessary
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inspection and repair
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worth of one hour's worth of work.
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So I would hate to see
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somebody have to have their Jeep
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overnight for something like this.
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I mean, yeah, you drop it
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off at five o'clock at night,
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we'll get to it first
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thing in the morning,
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you know, type of thing.
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I have a little more
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specific information here
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that might answer
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some of those questions.
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So for the 2021
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Gladiator Fire Risk Recall,
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NHTSA 26V363,
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I hope everybody had their pencil ready,
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FCA Campaign 21D, D is in dog.
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The actual work is
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estimated about one hour,
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what the repair involves,
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dealers inspect electric
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hydraulic power steering pump,
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electrical connection and related wiring.
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If the inspection shows a problem,
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they replace or repair the wiring harness
9:53
and or pump as needed.
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The work is free, parts and labor,
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be it many vehicles
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only need the inspection
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and leave with no parts replaced.
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So I'm gonna ask is if you find
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that there is an actual problem,
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do you have the parts before I go there?
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If you find a problem,
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do you have the parts?
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And if you don't have the parts.
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Keep here for three
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months until the car comes in.
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It's like, oh, I'm here.
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And if you don't have the parts,
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I wanna take it home
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until you get the parts.
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How's that work for you?
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Yeah, we're gonna give
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me a loaner until we get,
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I don't wanna either.
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I don't wanna sink a loaner.
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I had a Ford Fiesta one
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time for doing that shit again.
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God, sorry about that.
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Not from Jeep.
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Well, here's the thing is that,
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this raises the question then is,
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what are they looking
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for in the inspection?
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If the inspection reveals that,
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well, you don't need any parts replaced,
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what is it that showed them that?
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Or if you do need parts replaced,
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what is it that they're
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looking for that checks that box
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that then moves the Jeep
10:58
into the next phase of repairs?
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I mean, that's sort of,
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we had talked about this,
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I think back when the
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recall first came out
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was about visual inspections.
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And they're just gonna
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take a look at the thing
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and send you on your way.
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And more or less, that's
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what the actual recall notice
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is saying is that we're
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gonna take a look at it.
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And if we don't see anything,
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and they're not saying
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what they're looking for,
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we're gonna send you on your way.
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I would beg the question,
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what is it that you're looking for?
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And maybe you can do your own research
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a little bit ahead of time.
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Maybe you can assure yourself that,
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hey, I do have a problem
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because I can see what it is
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that you're looking for.
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And I wanna make sure
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that it gets taken care of.
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So if you guys say that,
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hey, you don't need any
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repairs or parts replaced
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because they just wanna
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get to the next vehicle
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and they're gonna slam out
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a bunch of these in a day
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so that they can get their
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claim through Stellantis.
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Well, of course, they
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do have to be careful
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because if a fire occurs
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after it's been blessed.
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So I'd like to reach out to
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all the Jeep Talk Show viewers
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and listeners to take a
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picture of the connector.
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You may have to look it up
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to find out where the connector is.
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Take a picture of it and see
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if there's any visual damage
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to the outside of the connector.
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I predict that they look at the connector
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and then pull it apart
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and look at both sides of the connection
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to see if there's any
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bending or cracking or whatever,
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because if they're gonna
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potentially replace the pump,
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it's probably internal to the connection.
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That they put it on there too hard.
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It broke something, bent something,
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still passed the QA or the QC,
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but it is now causing these fires.
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So it'll be
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interesting to see some pictures.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Because they're talking
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about replacing the pump
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and or the harness, one
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or the other, if not both.
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And so then I'm like, okay, well,
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is this a harness that
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plugs directly into the pump?
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Is there an interconnect?
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Is there a pigtail that
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comes off of the pump?
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It's interesting.
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I just assumed it was,
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since they talk about replacing the two,
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that the me in my mind was
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they were connecting the harness to the
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power steering unit.
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And that's why they're
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replacing one or the other.
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Maybe the problem is in
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the pump side connector.
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And in the vehicle
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harness side is just fine,
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but it's the way that the
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pump connection was manufactured
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is causing that problem with
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the harness side of things.
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And so, yeah, that would, I suppose,
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sort of play into why they
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would replace just the pump
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or the pump and the harness.
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But either way,
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definitely kind of curious
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if anybody out there
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within the sound of our voice
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listening to this has gone through this,
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has maybe asked a few
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additional questions
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of the technician at the dealership
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or the dealership themselves as to,
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what is it that you're doing?
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What did you find?
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That's what I'm gonna do.
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The dealerships are taking pictures.
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I was just thinking that.
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I'm already questioning them.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I mean, the more you know,
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we're going back to
14:03
the old GI Joe cartoons
14:06
at the end of the day,
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the more you know,
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and the knowing is half the battle.
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Kung Fu grip.
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Yes, exactly.
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So yeah, let us know.
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Reach out to the Jeep Talk Show,
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jeeptalkshow.com slash contact.
14:19
You can find out phone numbers.
14:20
You can find out email addresses,
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how you can contact us,
14:23
reach out to us and stuff.
14:24
And we would love to hear
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your experience with this recall,
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what you went through,
14:28
what you saw, what you heard,
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and how you were treated
14:33
through the whole process.
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Did it take an hour?
14:35
Did you have to leave
14:35
your Jeep overnight?
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You know, let us know exactly what it was
14:39
that you experienced with this recall
14:41
and what the outcome was like.
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Oh, and did you get upsold?
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Did they say, "Hey, while you're here?"
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And also too-
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While we're in there.
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And also too, did you buy a new Jeep?
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Because I think that
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ultimately is the reason
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why they're getting
14:56
you to the dealership.
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Right, yeah.
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We just want to get you in here
14:59
so that we can show you
15:00
this brand new 2027 model,
15:02
in fact, yeah.
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Well, it's funny because
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speaking of 2027 models,
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we got more on that 12
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for 12, didn't we, Tony?
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I think the final Jeeps
15:16
12 for 12 has been released
15:18
with the switchback.
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Just in time for Christmas.
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Just, I know, right?
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Just in time for the holidays.
15:23
And honestly, they went with a
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fluorescent green thing
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in this.
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They call it the switchback.
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Instead of the switchblade,
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and they emphasize the ACK in switchback
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in the fluorescent green,
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because that's what you're getting
15:38
is fluorescent green with this.
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This is going right back
15:41
to a lot of my complaints
15:43
with a lot of the 12 for
15:46
12 stuff that Jeep has done
15:48
is it seems to be
15:49
focused around color schemes
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more than anything else.
15:52
Pretty, it's purdy.
15:54
And so yes, okay, this is eye-catching.
15:56
You get, instead of like
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the Rubicon across the hood,
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you get switchback, and it's bold,
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and it's black with
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fluorescent green markings
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and stuff like that, and
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it's highlighted and stuff.
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And then you get the grille surround,
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and that's striking
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fluorescent green as well.
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And it all ties in with the
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striking fluorescent green
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faux beadlocks on there as well that,
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for reasons, is there.
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And of course, we're gonna go ahead
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and tie it into the interior as well.
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You get some stitching and stuff,
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and the word switchback, again,
16:29
with just the A in
16:31
fluorescent green on the seats.
16:34
I don't, because in all
16:36
the advertising, it's ACK,
16:38
but then on the vehicle
16:39
itself, it's just the A.
16:41
I don't know, I don't get it exactly.
16:45
So yeah, what they're
16:47
trying to highlight,
16:48
what they're trying to do.
16:49
And then, because nothing
16:51
screams like Jeep Heritage
16:53
than putting Giant H1
16:55
on the side of the Jeep,
16:56
because we're gonna pay
16:58
homage to the original Hummer.
17:00
That's what I was thinking.
17:01
It's like, what the fuck are you doing?
17:04
Seriously, the
17:06
marketing team at Stellanis
17:07
needs to not only be
17:08
fired, but taken out back
17:10
and beaten with a length of rubber hose.
17:12
Who the fuck thought that
17:13
it would be a good idea?
17:15
Seriously, we should
17:15
just roll this right into,
17:16
fuck you, you fucking fuck.
17:18
Because whoever came up with the H1
17:20
and boldened on the side of a Heritage,
17:22
a 2027, 12 for 12, this
17:25
is supposed to scream Jeep.
17:26
This is supposed to entice you to get
17:29
into the Jeep lifestyle
17:31
and become part of
17:32
the Jeep ownership club
17:33
and all this stuff.
17:34
But we're gonna throw a Giant H1
17:36
on the side of the
17:37
vehicle that's gonna help you
17:39
make this decision for some
17:41
fricking reason whatsoever
17:42
that cannot be explained
17:44
because what screams Jeep
17:45
more than H1, it makes no sense to me.
17:49
Make it make sense, please.
17:52
Yeah, not that the H1
17:53
isn't a good vehicle,
17:55
but it doesn't have a
17:56
solid axle, so fuck it.
17:58
Exactly, right, it's still not a Jeep.
18:01
So, I mean, right. That's right.
18:02
Everybody loves the look
18:03
of the original Hummer.
18:05
Very capable vehicle,
18:06
all that sort of stuff.
18:07
But again, it's not a Jeep.
18:10
I mean, the only thing
18:10
they could have done worse
18:11
would do like H3 on the side of it.
18:13
I mean, that would have been even worse
18:15
because that's just a Silverado.
18:16
But this is, I mean, I
18:18
don't, it boggles my mind.
18:21
I don't understand, I don't get it.
18:23
Yeah, I was just thinking H2, maybe H2O,
18:26
but then everybody would be
18:26
coming asking you for water.
18:29
Thinking you're the water rifle.
18:30
Again, and where does
18:31
switchback come from?
18:33
I mean, because that, I mean, okay,
18:34
so we talk about like, okay,
18:36
down at the bottom of this
18:38
trail, there's a switchback.
18:39
Be careful of that because
18:40
it's a tight turning radius.
18:42
Okay, I can kind of
18:45
understand that in regards to,
18:48
okay, it's trail terminology.
18:51
Then again, where's the H1 come from?
18:53
And why fluorescent
18:54
green out of all colors?
18:56
I don't know, it's like, if anything,
18:59
this should have been, had like a
19:00
Seahawks M-Bull monitor,
19:02
something like that, because
19:03
that green is pulled directly
19:05
from out of the Seattle
19:06
Seahawks color swatch.
19:07
Absolutely, 100%.
19:09
They're only missing a little
19:10
bit of blue and gray in there,
19:11
but it's just, I don't know.
19:13
I've had a problem with
19:15
a lot of the 12 for 12s.
19:16
This final 12 for 12 edition,
19:21
and again, I don't
19:22
understand why they're doing this.
19:25
They could have gone
19:26
a different direction
19:27
and there's no contiguation in this.
19:30
Again, in all of their marketing,
19:33
the ACK and switchback
19:35
is all highlighted green,
19:36
but then in the Jeep
19:36
itself, only on the seat
19:39
where you have the word
19:40
switchback is the A in green.
19:42
Why just the selection of the few letters
19:45
or the single letter in that,
19:48
where's the representation?
19:50
Where's the tie-in to Jeep?
19:51
Where's the heritage behind this?
19:53
It makes no sense.
19:55
So again, somebody was
19:57
justifying their job in marketing
19:59
by coming up with an idea
20:00
that it has absolutely nothing to do
20:02
with Jeep or their heritage.
20:04
So way to go guys, way to
20:07
knock it out of the park.
20:09
You know, it just hit me.
20:11
It just hit me.
20:12
Maybe the H1 has something to
20:14
do with the country of India.
20:17
Because there's talk of the Gladiator
20:22
potentially coming to
20:23
India as a premium pickup.
20:28
Well, premium, yes, sort
20:30
of, but no, not really.
20:32
I mean, okay, so what
20:34
they're talking about
20:35
is the fact that Rubicon and Wrangler,
20:38
I mean, the Wrangler and the Gladiator
20:40
have hit a 1 million unit global sales
20:43
milestone this year.
20:44
So a million units of the
20:46
Wrangler and the Gladiator
20:47
have been sold globally
20:49
worldwide here in 2026.
20:51
So the year's not over with,
20:53
they're still going strong.
20:55
But because of that,
20:56
and because of Jeeps
20:58
being officially named
20:59
as the official vehicle of Moab,
21:02
which I don't know why
21:03
it took them this long
21:04
to come up with that, it's beyond me,
21:06
but they're talking about the Gladiator
21:08
potentially coming to
21:09
India as a premium pickup,
21:11
but it's gonna be a CKD.
21:13
And for those in the automotive industry,
21:15
you already know what that means,
21:16
but for those who don't, it means
21:17
completely knocked down.
21:19
This is going to be a
21:20
stripped down model.
21:23
I did not know what that stood for.
21:24
Yeah, so it's gonna be
21:25
a stripped down model
21:26
to begin with.
21:28
And then it's going to be,
21:30
you know the old term,
21:31
some assembly required,
21:33
that's how they're gonna
21:33
get around with the Terrace,
21:35
because essentially this is going to be
21:37
not only a stripped down model,
21:39
but then it's going to be
21:39
completely disassembled.
21:41
I mean, not disassembled,
21:42
it's not going to be
21:43
assembled to begin with.
21:45
What is this?
21:46
What's that furniture place
21:47
where you always have to
21:47
put the stuff together?
21:48
Yes, this is going to be Ikea.
21:50
So are you gonna be
21:50
able to buy this at Ikea
21:52
in India?
21:53
And basically they're
21:54
gonna give you an Allen wrench
21:55
and it'd be like, here you
21:55
go, put together your Jeep.
21:58
(both laughing)
21:59
So no, but it's kind
22:01
of along those lines.
22:02
So the CKD completely knocked down.
22:05
You're not going to
22:06
get your 392 over there.
22:07
You're probably not going to get,
22:10
you know, a turbo inline
22:12
six or anything like that.
22:13
You might get a turbo four,
22:14
you're gonna get the 3.6 Pentastar V6,
22:18
but that's pretty much gonna be it.
22:21
There's not going to be a
22:21
whole lot of trim options.
22:24
Finally an affordable Jeep.
22:26
Exactly.
22:27
I mean, honestly, that's
22:28
what I was thinking as well.
22:29
It's just like, wait a minute.
22:31
Why are we offering India
22:33
this and not here in the States?
22:34
Because this option, you know,
22:38
available to the
22:39
customer could, I would think,
22:41
knock a good 10 grand
22:43
off of the sticker price.
22:44
So, I mean, that would
22:46
be a big massive deal.
22:48
Now, do they want to do that?
22:50
No, because they want to
22:51
push for the higher trim models.
22:52
They want to push for, you know,
22:54
all the options and everything.
22:54
Oh, they want to make money, sure.
22:56
Absolutely.
22:57
And that's what this is all about,
22:59
is making that bottom line.
23:01
And so could they do that with the sales,
23:07
the sales force that the Jeep has had
23:10
over the course of the year,
23:11
selling a million models of
23:14
the Wrangler and the Gladiator.
23:17
So, hey, this is a very popular vehicle.
23:19
Let's see if we can sell it in India,
23:21
but it's going to come as a
23:22
high price point relative to,
23:24
so basically they're
23:25
trying to compete with what is,
23:27
like the Toyota Tacoma over there,
23:28
the Hilux is what it's
23:30
called in everywhere,
23:31
except for the US.
23:33
So they're competing with the Hilux.
23:35
It's a mid-sized truck.
23:36
The Gladiator's mid-sized truck,
23:38
it would be in direct
23:39
competition with it.
23:40
And Stellantis could then
23:41
have a footprint in India,
23:43
where Toyota has got a
23:46
very, very large stronghold,
23:48
especially in the
23:49
medium-sized truck market.
23:50
So with Stellantis
23:52
offering this potential,
23:54
and again, this isn't
23:55
written in stone yet,
23:56
this is just a potential,
23:57
this could be happening.
23:59
And I could see this maybe
24:01
starting to happen in 2027,
24:03
but then being officially rolled out
24:05
for the 2028 model year,
24:07
as they use 2027 to
24:08
figure out supply chains,
24:11
what the shipping and
24:12
tariffs are going to look like,
24:13
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
24:14
So, and again,
24:15
circling back to the tariffs
24:16
and how they're going
24:17
to avoid a lot of that
24:19
is by essentially
24:20
shipping India a bunch of parts.
24:23
So remember back in the 40s,
24:26
we've seen all the videos
24:27
and even, I mean, today,
24:28
in today's world,
24:30
occasionally you'll see it in a parade,
24:32
where a Jeep will roll up,
24:33
the guys will disassemble
24:35
the thing in an intersection
24:36
and put it back together in five minutes.
24:38
They know exactly how many
24:40
threads need to be engaged.
24:42
So that's kind of what you're gonna get.
24:44
India is gonna get a Jeep in a box
24:47
and it's gonna have all the parts,
24:48
it's gonna have everything you need,
24:49
but it is not going to
24:51
be an assembled vehicle.
24:53
And because they're not
24:54
getting an assembled vehicle,
24:55
they can avoid the tariffs.
24:56
And because they can avoid the tariffs,
24:58
they can actually kind
24:59
of have some massaging
25:00
when it comes to the price point.
25:01
Now, that being said,
25:03
it's still going to be
25:04
a premium price point
25:05
because it's competing
25:06
against the Hilux, the Toyota,
25:07
over there.
25:08
So again, it's a bit of a
25:11
kind of a tricky scenario.
25:12
It gets a little bit deep in the weeds
25:14
when it comes to like how this is all
25:16
gonna play out and work.
25:17
But if they are able to pull this off
25:19
and if they are able to
25:20
secure the supply chains
25:22
and the shipping
25:23
channels and everything else
25:24
to make this happen,
25:25
this could be a really big boon for Jeep
25:28
or Stellantis as a whole.
25:30
Now, obviously
25:30
Stellantis has been struggling
25:31
for a couple few years for a while.
25:34
And there's been talks about Jeep and Ram
25:37
sort of cutting ties
25:39
just because they're getting
25:40
bogged down with Stellantis.
25:42
Be part of a, be an owner
25:44
of a winning vehicle company.
25:46
Seriously, seriously.
25:48
I mean, it's about time that Jeep and Ram
25:50
don't have a parent company.
25:52
It needs to happen.
25:54
Because right now Stellantis
25:55
is dragging the brands down
25:57
with--
25:57
Well, Jeep and Ram are
25:59
like the US post office
26:00
funding all the bullshit
26:02
that Congress wants to fund
26:03
because they take it
26:04
from the mail service
26:07
and spend it on something else.
26:09
So that's kind of what
26:09
Stellantis has been doing
26:11
with Jeep and Ram.
26:13
So I think that we're gonna
26:14
see some big moves coming up
26:16
in the next couple of years.
26:18
And this, and if this doesn't work,
26:21
honestly, I could see by
26:23
2030, Jeep and Ram making a move.
26:27
Whether or not they can
26:28
do it without, I mean--
26:30
I don't know if
26:31
Stellantis would limit it.
26:32
I mean, that's what I'm saying is--
26:33
That might do Stellantis.
26:35
That's what I'm saying is I don't know
26:36
if Stellantis would let it happen
26:38
if they could let it happen,
26:39
if that's even
26:40
something that could happen.
26:42
I think it needs to happen.
26:43
I think it should happen.
26:44
But yeah, time will tell, of course.
26:46
But this is basically
26:47
some interesting things
26:48
that are happening kind of in the
26:49
background behind Jeep.
26:51
So let me ask you this, Josh.
26:52
This wasn't on the
26:53
list, but I'm just curious.
26:56
I'm assuming that if you could buy a
26:58
brand new Jeep right now,
26:59
Wrangler or Gladiator,
27:01
that it was in the cards
27:03
where you financially
27:03
and stuff, you'd do it.
27:05
But is there any other Jeep vehicle,
27:08
Jeep branded vehicle
27:10
that you would purchase?
27:14
I mean, a commuter vehicle is fine.
27:17
But I mean, to me, it doesn't make sense
27:20
to buy anything from
27:21
Jeep other than a Wrangler
27:23
or a Gladiator.
27:25
I mean, yes and no.
27:27
Look, I don't know if
27:28
you've actually seen in person
27:29
yet a Grand Wagoneer.
27:31
If you've had the
27:32
chance-- Oh, that's a good point.
27:33
Yeah, those are nice.
27:34
I have, I saw one at EJS.
27:37
Good Lord. So, you know, there's--
27:38
It's a space shuttle.
27:39
It is, I'm sorry, not the space shuttle.
27:42
It's a shuttle for the next generation.
27:44
You wanna talk about the mothership.
27:46
This is it, man.
27:47
So yeah, if I had my
27:49
druthers, if it was in the cards,
27:51
sure, man, I would love a Grand Wagoneer.
27:53
It's so hard to park at Walmart.
27:55
I park in the back, man.
27:57
I take up four spots, I give a shit.
28:00
The Grand Wagoneer is nice,
28:02
especially with that Hurricane engine.
28:03
That's a good point, I
28:04
didn't think about that.
28:05
I was thinking of the
28:06
Recon or the Compass,
28:08
if they're still making the Compass,
28:10
the Cherokee, all those other ones.
28:12
It's funny you mentioned the Recon
28:14
because I think that
28:15
hit a milestone as well.
28:18
This month, I believe
28:19
the Recon hit somewhere
28:21
in the neighborhood of 300,000 orders,
28:24
which is pretty big for
28:26
a new vehicle for Jeep.
28:28
So now, whether that is
28:30
actual customer orders
28:31
or whether or not that's
28:32
just the dealership networks
28:35
allocated, okay, you're part
28:39
of the Jeep dealership network,
28:40
you are under contract to
28:42
buy X number of vehicles
28:43
across our lineup, and
28:47
that's going to include the Recon.
28:49
So that might be
28:51
Stellantis forcing the Recon
28:53
down dealerships throats.
28:55
I don't know, but the
28:56
magic number is 300,000 so far.
28:59
So that's a kind of a big deal,
29:01
which means one of two things, either A,
29:04
there is going to be a
29:05
demand for this vehicle,
29:06
and it really is kind
29:09
of showing up to be the,
29:12
what do you will, the
29:13
Swiss Army knife of Jeeps
29:16
that they have kind of
29:17
marketed this thing as.
29:18
It is not only your daily driver,
29:20
it is not only an off-road rig,
29:21
it is not only
29:22
customizable, it is absolutely modular,
29:25
it is absolutely fun to drive,
29:26
and it has everything that
29:27
you want out of a Jeep-ish.
29:31
Yeah, and it's rated
29:33
trail-rated parking lot
29:36
rated badge on there.
29:37
Oh yeah, no, this is--
29:39
You can take it to the
29:39
off-road parking lot.
29:41
Mall crawling approved, absolutely, 100%.
29:45
The Recon, which you
29:46
can remove the doors,
29:47
I mean, legally, I mean,
29:49
it's designed to
29:50
remove the doors from Jeep.
29:52
You can remove those doors on a Recon,
29:54
but it reminds me of seeing
29:55
those funny memes and stuff
29:58
on social media where
29:59
somebody's driving a Ford Fiesta
30:01
with the doors on.
30:02
With the doors on, you
30:03
think you have a Jeep, yeah.
30:05
Once a Jeep owner,
30:06
always a Jeep owner, yeah.
30:07
The Jeep desire is hard in this one.
30:09
The bank account's not
30:10
there, but the desire is, so.
30:13
Gotta give them an A for effort.
30:15
All right, Josh, I
30:16
wanna ask you about this.
30:17
I don't know if you
30:18
saw or heard the episode
30:20
where Chris and I were talking about
30:23
cold thrusters for a Jeep,
30:25
and of course, this has to do with Tesla
30:28
coming out with the
30:28
Roadster that literally flew,
30:31
and you had not seen the video
30:34
until right before we started recording.
30:35
Right, yeah, literally
30:36
right before showtime.
30:38
And you were amazed as I was
30:39
at what they've done with this thing.
30:41
So obviously, so this week,
30:43
and we're recording this on a Wednesday,
30:45
and this kind of hit, I think,
30:47
either last Friday or this Monday,
30:50
and so it's been kind
30:51
of very much in the news.
30:52
Yeah, it wasn't very long ago, yeah.
30:54
Right, and so it's been in
30:56
the mouths of a lot of people.
30:58
And so I've been hearing a lot about it,
31:01
and so what I've heard
31:04
didn't quite match up
31:06
with what I saw.
31:07
I was hearing it would
31:08
sort of levitate a little bit.
31:09
It's meant to sort of
31:10
reduce drag somewhat,
31:12
and then you and I
31:14
were talking off the air,
31:15
and you were like, remember the old,
31:17
and you used a reference from--
31:19
Mark 5, Speed Racer.
31:20
From Speed Racer back in the day.
31:21
Now that is a timely reference,
31:23
you don't know Speed Racer.
31:25
Jim Jim. You need to educate yourself.
31:26
Yeah, no, it is a
31:28
timeless, timeless cartoon.
31:30
Anyways, how the Mach 5,
31:33
when there was a wreck on the racetrack,
31:35
would use, he would push this button,
31:38
and the car would have these pistons
31:40
that would jump down, shoot
31:41
down from the bottom of the car,
31:42
and lift the car off the ground,
31:44
jumping it up and over the obstacle.
31:46
And essentially, that's
31:48
what this thing is doing.
31:50
The new Roadster from
31:52
Tesla has essentially
31:53
the same technology that is used
31:55
in the positioning
31:58
thrusters of the rocket systems
32:00
that SpaceX is using.
32:01
So same nozzles, same kind of system.
32:06
And what did you say as far as the PSI?
32:09
10,000. They use compressed air.
32:11
Yeah, 10,000. 10,000 PSI.
32:15
And by the way, it's self-refilling.
32:17
So kid recent in
32:19
perspective. Keep the skills itself.
32:20
Your average air
32:22
compressor in your garage
32:24
is running between 125 and 150 PSI max.
32:29
There's a few out
32:30
there that can push out 175
32:32
as far as a
32:35
consumer-level air compressor goes.
32:37
So we're talking under
32:38
200 pounds per square inch,
32:40
which is your average, which would be
32:42
considered even at 200,
32:44
high PSI or average
32:46
consumer-level compressed air.
32:48
10,000 PSI stored in the
32:52
vehicle that you're driving,
32:54
potentially right underneath your ass.
32:56
No, no, Josh, I got a
32:58
little BSI information
32:59
I didn't tell you.
33:00
One of the COPD tanks is
33:04
where the passenger seat
33:05
would be if you had the two-seater model.
33:08
If you've got these cold thrusters,
33:10
one of the seats, our areas for the seat
33:12
by a 10,000 carbon fiber wrapped COPD,
33:17
10,000 PSI right there
33:19
next to your whole body,
33:21
not just to your ass.
33:22
Actually, the ass would
33:23
probably be the only thing left.
33:25
See, so I mean, the
33:26
price point on these cars
33:28
is probably gonna be six figures.
33:29
I have no idea. 500,000 to a billion.
33:31
Yeah, so I mean, obviously,
33:33
you're not gonna be having
33:35
a whole lot of these out on the road.
33:36
You're not gonna see a ton of them.
33:37
But that being said,
33:39
you know there's gonna be
33:39
some rich mother effer out
33:41
there who's gonna be like,
33:42
well, I wanna take this on the track day.
33:45
He's gonna take it down
33:45
to the local racetrack
33:47
and he's gonna put out
33:48
a couple of few hot laps
33:49
and all it's gonna take
33:52
is that ass end coming out,
33:54
he's just gonna let that
33:56
hang out there a little bit
33:57
and, oh, clip the wall a little bit
33:59
and suddenly 10,000 PSI
34:01
is going to spontaneously
34:02
decompress inside the
34:03
cabin of that vehicle.
34:05
What do you think is gonna happen
34:06
to the soft squishy meat bag next to it?
34:09
You know what?
34:10
I bet you they can engineer it
34:11
where the person is okay, but the car
34:14
ain't gonna be okay.
34:16
It's bad enough when a
34:17
tire tread comes off a tire
34:19
and it roaches the
34:21
whole fender and stuff.
34:22
That's gonna be like a
34:23
shape charge going off.
34:24
The entire passenger side
34:25
of the vehicle's blown out
34:27
like a 50 caliber bullet
34:29
going through a watermelon,
34:30
but the driver, completely unscathed.
34:33
No, look at this, you
34:34
still operate the window
34:35
over here on the driver's side.
34:36
(laughing)
34:36
You know, it just dawned on me.
34:39
What a great upgrade for a power tank.
34:42
You don't like having
34:43
your power tank refilled?
34:45
No problem.
34:46
10,000 PSI.
34:47
What's this?
34:48
I will air up everybody.
34:49
You can air up in half a second
34:52
with a Tesla cold air
34:54
thruster compressor.
34:56
Oh Christ, the regulator on that tank
34:58
could just scream it hot.
35:01
Oh, and the other
35:01
thing, because I'm evil,
35:02
the other thing I
35:03
thought of, you do a test,
35:06
this could be on MythBusters.
35:07
How long does a train horn last
35:10
on a 10,000 PSI COPD tank from Tesla?
35:14
It just freezes up,
35:15
turns into a block of ice.
35:17
This looks at you like,
35:18
what the hell are you doing?
35:19
We were talking off air about this,
35:21
just joking around as we do.
35:23
And I had come up
35:24
with the idea of a great,
35:26
you know, be able to, you were saying,
35:28
you know, no more Jeep
35:29
rollovers with this technology.
35:31
Yeah, incorporate it into the roll bar.
35:33
You got some high
35:34
mounted thrusters up there
35:36
in the corners, whatever.
35:36
You get past a certain camber angle,
35:38
the thrusters kick in,
35:39
bring it right back to zero.
35:40
No problem.
35:42
I love it.
35:43
I think it's a cool idea.
35:45
No, and it would be dangerous too.
35:48
But you know, it could actually happen
35:50
like at King of the Hammers,
35:51
because I would think this
35:52
would be a wonderful thing
35:54
to have at King of the Hammers,
35:55
not during the race
35:56
because of the danger associated
35:58
with the cold air
35:59
thrusters throwing debris,
36:01
but just before the race is kind of like,
36:04
oh, what the hell is that thing?
36:06
The drink, the energy drink, Monster.
36:08
They got a monster
36:09
vehicle with a monster driver
36:11
out there going up and over big obstacles
36:15
on King of the Hammers,
36:17
because they've mounted some of these,
36:19
I could see somebody
36:20
putting fire extinguishers
36:21
(laughs)
36:22
to fake out the audience.
36:25
But yeah, no, I think
36:27
we're gonna see more
36:28
from the cold
36:29
thruster thing simply because
36:31
it's really, really interesting
36:34
and interesting cells, eyeballs.
36:37
So we're gonna be seeing a
36:38
lot more about this stuff.
36:40
And I'm sure Monster Energy drank.
36:42
Who's the other one?
36:43
Is it Monster that flew
36:44
the plane through the tunnel?
36:47
Oh, maybe that Red Bull.
36:48
Red Bull, thank you.
36:49
Red Bull's always doing crazy stunts.
36:50
Red Bull, I bet you were to see something
36:52
from Red Bull with cold air thrusters.
36:55
Well, okay, so you know,
36:57
we've got flying cars now.
36:59
Kind of, I mean, they are
37:01
actually introductioners.
37:03
(tires screeching)
37:03
There it is.
37:04
There are a few companies
37:05
out there that are making it.
37:06
Well, there was just,
37:08
and this of course happened
37:09
in like, United Emirates
37:11
or something like that.
37:12
You know, somewhere
37:13
where it's not uncommon
37:15
for people to be a quadrillionaire,
37:17
but they did this first flying car race
37:21
and they had these giant
37:22
inflatable pylons and stuff
37:24
that they were going
37:24
around, this course, if you will.
37:27
And it was slow and it
37:29
was just a big figure eight
37:31
and it took, you know, 15 minutes for
37:33
them to complete a lap
37:34
and it wasn't really all that exciting,
37:36
but it was a flying car race between two.
37:39
Oh yeah, the quadcopters basically.
37:42
Yeah, essentially, yeah.
37:43
It's just basically a--
37:44
It's got a person in them, I
37:45
mean, it's not just the drone.
37:46
It's just not just the drone.
37:47
Yeah, there was one person in each one.
37:49
It's a single seater
37:50
device, but nonetheless.
37:52
So, I mean, that's happening.
37:54
So we were talking about having
37:55
this compressed air technology off-road
37:58
and it's like, well, instead of a winch,
38:00
you've just got, you
38:01
know, this 10,000 PSI tank
38:03
and a couple of
38:03
thrusters underneath the Jeep.
38:04
It'll pop you right over any rocks you
38:06
have a problem getting
38:06
over there. Press the hover button.
38:08
Get a little forward movement first.
38:10
You know, blast a crater in
38:11
the trail at the same time,
38:13
but hey, we're just adding--
38:16
Screw those guys with the 40 inch tires.
38:19
I'll make my own trenches.
38:20
Right.
38:24
So yeah, lots of
38:25
interesting stuff coming out.
38:26
And I could see somebody
38:28
adopting this technology
38:29
because it only took, I
38:30
mean, less than 10 years
38:32
for people to sort of take down parts
38:35
from a wrecked Tesla.
38:36
And suddenly you've got a
38:38
Volkswagen Beetle from the 60s
38:40
that has a Tesla drive train in it
38:41
and can do zero to 60 in 1.3 seconds.
38:44
I mean, it's just like,
38:45
we're gonna see somebody
38:47
taking this technology
38:48
out of a wrecked roadster
38:50
here in the next five or 10 years
38:51
and putting it on a vehicle that it has
38:53
no business being on.
38:55
And whether they make it
38:56
fly or they make it go fast,
38:57
I don't care either way.
38:59
I wanna see this repurposed.
39:00
I wanna see this technology DIYed.
39:04
I wanna see somebody go full mad
39:05
scientist with this shit
39:07
and just do something bananas with it.
39:09
So I'm just gonna hold
39:11
my breath until then.
39:12
It should be interesting.
39:13
So I think we did two
39:16
interviews with a guy
39:17
that had a TJ and he did
39:19
exactly the same thing.
39:20
He did exactly that.
39:20
He took the electric
39:23
motors and the computer
39:25
and if there's a transmission,
39:28
I think he, I don't
39:28
remember how he did it,
39:29
but he actually did that.
39:31
He wasn't getting a
39:32
lot of miles out of it.
39:34
I mean, because it's not
39:35
an optimized vehicle frame
39:37
for electric.
39:39
But yeah, I agree with you.
39:40
I think we're gonna see
39:41
much more along those lines.
39:43
And yeah, it's gonna be fun.
39:45
It's gonna be fun
39:45
seeing people do that stuff,
39:47
especially when they get to the point
39:49
where they can take it off road
39:51
and actually go through
39:54
all the trails and stuff.
39:55
And it'll be so strange hearing nothing
39:58
other than rubber on rocks.
40:02
Yeah.
40:02
There's air or something moving.
40:04
Well, I remember there
40:05
was, I think it was France.
40:07
It was somewhere over
40:08
in the UK somewhere.
40:09
There was somebody that
40:11
decided to make an air powered car.
40:14
And it looked kind of like one of those
40:15
Scion little toaster vehicles.
40:18
Small micro minivan of sorts or whatever.
40:21
And it had, I mean, the entire back end
40:22
was just nothing but tanks, obviously.
40:25
And it was, again, one
40:26
of these extremely high
40:28
pressure systems, probably in the
40:30
neighborhood of 10,000 PSI.
40:31
I don't remember what it
40:32
was, but I would assume
40:33
it was up there in the
40:35
five digit range of PSI.
40:38
And he had a range of like 75, 80 miles.
40:41
I mean, it was
40:42
realistic to have this vehicle
40:45
and this technology as a commuter car.
40:47
You just hook it up to your compressor.
40:50
It compresses the air and
40:51
you just charge up the vehicle
40:53
with compressed air and off you go.
40:55
You know, that's so funny.
40:56
It's 75 mile range.
40:58
That's amazing.
40:59
Whenever I have compressed air,
41:01
I can barely, I can't
41:02
make it to the bathroom.
41:04
It's out by the time I get there.
41:06
The range is limited, yes.
41:10
And thank God.
41:12
I can see, I can see,
41:14
I would like to see this
41:17
technology being adapted
41:18
into the drive train.
41:21
You know, so I think,
41:22
think about like the,
41:24
the amount of torque that
41:25
you get from a pneumatic impact
41:28
gun versus, you know,
41:29
your electric impact gun.
41:31
Pneumatic is going to have a lot more
41:33
torque available to it.
41:34
Can we see this
41:35
10,000 PSI air tank system
41:38
and these, these drivers incorporated
41:41
into the drive train
41:42
system to maybe
41:44
increase torque on demand.
41:46
So like there's a lot of
41:48
people may, may be familiar
41:50
with a car company named McLaren.
41:53
They're big in F1 racing.
41:54
They, they've got a super
41:55
car, hyper car out there,
41:57
you know, a hundred
41:58
thousand, quarter million,
41:59
half a million dollar
42:00
vehicles, just insanely fast.
42:03
They've actually had
42:04
hybrid technology around
42:06
before it was really mainstream.
42:08
And one of their
42:09
vehicles uses hybrid technology
42:12
to have the electric motor, get the
42:14
vehicle up and going
42:15
because that's where you
42:17
lose 90% of your efficiency
42:19
is getting a static
42:21
vehicle moving in the first place
42:22
from a dead stop.
42:23
Once a vehicle is in
42:24
motion, it's a lot easier
42:26
and a lot more efficient
42:27
to bring it up to speed
42:30
once it's already moving.
42:32
Well, it's that whole
42:32
variable timing valve train type
42:35
thing that GM came up with.
42:37
They would turn off
42:37
cylinders because you didn't need
42:39
all six or eight cylinders.
42:41
Once you're going down
42:42
the freeway, exactly.
42:43
You could drop down to four
42:44
cylinders and, and shut off
42:46
half the engine
42:47
essentially to increase efficiency
42:49
because the vehicle just
42:51
doesn't need it to travel.
42:54
So once you get it going,
42:54
so I could see something
42:56
along those lines being
42:58
used now, is Stellantis going
42:59
to jump on this?
43:00
Are we going to see this in Jeeps?
43:01
Likely not.
43:02
I could see this being
43:03
adapted in the, in the,
43:04
in the passenger car or
43:06
potentially even in like the,
43:08
the big truck market
43:09
and the semi truck market.
43:11
Yeah, exactly.
43:11
Yeah, so you, you know, I
43:12
mean, you've got, you know,
43:13
you've got 30,000 pounds
43:14
behind you in, in, in freight.
43:17
You can just, and they've
43:18
already got onboard compressed
43:20
air systems that already
43:20
run a couple of hundred PSI
43:22
or better.
43:23
So it's not out of the
43:24
question to predict that maybe
43:27
in a big semi, they use
43:29
this 10,000 PSI compressed air
43:30
system to get the vehicle
43:32
up and moving, get that 10,
43:34
30,000 pounds going down
43:35
the road a little bit more
43:36
before the diesel engine
43:37
kicks in and takes over.
43:39
I don't know.
43:40
I'm just, I'm free balling here and
43:41
thinking that there,
43:42
there's some other applications for this.
43:45
Hopefully Elon, if you're
43:46
listening, I'll go ahead
43:46
and take the
43:47
royalties on that now, please.
43:48
But yeah, that, that, I
43:50
think that could be done.
43:52
So, you know, the, the
43:54
semi, the Tesla semi trucks
43:56
are, have officially been launched.
44:00
That would be an
44:01
interesting thing if it was practical
44:03
to take one of those
44:04
compressors that they're using
44:06
on the roadster and
44:07
actually use that to get the Tesla
44:09
started, which would
44:10
potentially make the, the battery
44:13
last a little longer.
44:14
Yeah, cause that's the
44:15
biggest problem with those.
44:17
Yeah. So we were talking
44:18
about things going fast.
44:21
Did you realize that
44:22
there's actually a negative side
44:24
to being fast because Nikki
44:27
G has learned this the wrong
44:28
for that it's not the
44:30
best thing about being fast.
44:32
Oh no. What did he do to one of you?
44:34
Tell me my hair looks like this.
44:36
He's, hey, this is Nikki G
44:40
and it won't be collapsed
44:42
at the baggage carousel in the airport.
44:45
Yeah, but don't worry.
44:46
She's slowly coming around.
44:49
If you don't like that one,
44:50
you know, you're really not
44:51
gonna like this one.
44:52
I just found out that cock
44:54
fighting is done with chickens.
44:56
Yeah, training wasted.
44:59
Oh no.
45:02
I'm gonna fight you.
45:04
All right, boys and
45:05
girls, I'll chat to you later.
45:06
Have a good one. Bye.
45:08
So yeah, when Nikki G was
45:10
talking about sword fights
45:12
that one time, I
45:13
completely lost the context.
45:16
So okay. Understood. Thank you, Nikki.
45:20
So I think basically the
45:21
training is that you just
45:22
be each other off, right?
45:24
Oh, well, God.
45:26
(laughing)
45:28
Going back into like the
45:29
first days of the XJ talk show,
45:32
where, you know, don't
45:33
cross the streams and all that.
45:34
Yeah.
45:35
Oh, another timely reference.
45:38
Great things that are in movies that only
45:40
second twisted people see.
45:43
We wonder why there's only three
45:44
listeners to the show.
45:45
I see.
45:47
Well, actually this is
45:48
one. It's a, oh crap.
45:50
I'm forgetting his name.
45:51
Who was the second twisted bastard?
45:54
Oh, oh good. It's not just me.
45:56
He's like, he's like,
45:59
he's like you asshole.
46:00
I know, right?
46:01
It's this is what I get
46:02
for being away from the show
46:03
for two or three weeks.
46:04
So it turns out there's not three.
46:07
It's just, it's just him
46:08
listening to it three times.
46:10
Well, he's got three different computers.
46:11
So there you go.
46:14
All right, Josh, we
46:15
didn't talk about this.
46:16
Dusty Dunn.
46:17
Dusty Dunn, second twisted bastard.
46:19
Dusty L Dunn.
46:20
Second twisted bastard. Yes.
46:21
Love me some Dusty.
46:22
Sorry, Dusty.
46:24
But we didn't talk about this,
46:25
but you say you always
46:27
have them in the queue.
46:28
How about a fuck you, you fucking fuck.
46:31
Oh yes, absolutely.
46:34
We talked about maybe
46:35
saving that for bonus content.
46:37
Do we want to give it?
46:38
We want to give it to him right now.
46:39
I thought we would,
46:40
we don't want people forgetting about it.
46:41
So this will kind of be a reminder.
46:44
I teased it a little bit
46:45
when we started talking
46:47
about the 12 for 12 and the H1.
46:50
Yeah, I mean, we can do
46:50
whatever you want to do,
46:52
but I figured, you know,
46:53
we've done a couple of them
46:54
that you have to be a member on YouTube
46:56
or a Patreon subscriber to hear or watch.
47:00
So I figured we'd just do
47:01
a regular one right here
47:02
where people can see
47:04
what they're missing.
47:05
Yes, yes.
47:06
No, I do have one ready to go.
47:08
So, and for those who
47:10
are new to the show,
47:11
this is just me ranting a little bit.
47:13
I drive a lot.
47:15
Which is unusual for you.
47:16
I know, right?
47:17
He's normally such a
47:19
calm, late back kind of guy.
47:21
No, I drive around a lot.
47:24
My previous job, it
47:26
was a 40 mile commute,
47:28
one way door to door.
47:29
So, you know, I was on the
47:31
road for three hours a day,
47:32
minimum my last job.
47:34
No confirmed kills.
47:35
For errors only.
47:36
Hardly enough.
47:37
And I mean, not that they
47:38
can append to me anyways.
47:40
And so, and with this job,
47:41
I'm on the road all day long anyway.
47:43
So I see it all, I see it every day.
47:45
And there's just some things
47:47
that just kind of get underneath my skin
47:48
and I just stew on them for a little bit.
47:51
I've got pet peeves and things like that.
47:54
So I decided to roll it into
47:57
a segment here on the show,
47:59
give myself an outlet for
48:01
all of this pent up anger
48:02
and I call it fuck you, you fucking fuck.
48:06
So this week's fuck you, you fucking fuck
48:08
is gonna go out to those
48:10
ever so special individuals
48:12
who decide that at the very last minute,
48:14
they forgot the
48:16
difference between left and right.
48:18
And we've all seen this
48:19
plenty of times, right?
48:21
Where they go into the left lane
48:23
and not even in the left turn lane.
48:25
And it's like, okay, you're
48:26
gonna be there, that's fine.
48:27
Maybe you're gonna come up here
48:28
and you're gonna take
48:28
a left for a minute.
48:29
No, because in three blocks
48:31
overcomes the right hand turn signal.
48:33
And from the left lane,
48:34
they cut across two or
48:36
three lanes of traffic
48:37
to make themselves into the
48:39
drive-through or whatever.
48:41
Oh, fuck you, you fucking fuck.
48:44
Who doesn't know the
48:44
difference between left and right.
48:46
You knew damn good and
48:47
well where you were going
48:48
and where it was going to be
48:50
on the road that you were traveling.
48:51
I've been behind you for
48:52
three and a half miles already.
48:54
I know exactly where we're going.
48:56
You however, just suddenly forgot
48:59
which side of the
49:00
street McDonald's is on.
49:02
You knew you were going
49:02
there, you knew you were hungry,
49:03
you know you were out
49:04
forgetting, getting something to eat
49:05
and you're the only person in the car.
49:07
There's not like,
49:08
hey, I got an idea Cindy,
49:10
let's go here instead last minute.
49:12
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
49:14
You knew that you
49:15
were going to McDonald's,
49:16
you knew that it was
49:17
on the right hand side
49:18
and why you got in the
49:19
left hand lane is beyond me
49:21
because you don't know how to fucking
49:22
drive to begin with.
49:23
So you should stay out
49:24
of the left hand lane,
49:26
stay in the right hand lane.
49:27
In fact, just stay home altogether
49:29
because fuck you, you fucking fuck.
49:31
You don't know how to drive
49:32
and how dare you try to
49:33
make a right hand turn
49:34
from the left hand lane.
49:38
Sorry, these things, they get to me.
49:41
This makes me so angry.
49:43
So I suspect that people in the future,
49:47
as soon as the full
49:49
self-driving is a big deal,
49:52
that they're going to put
49:53
QR codes on their vehicles
49:55
and it's going to be help
49:56
me pay for full self-driving
49:58
because then that will
49:59
remove all this bullshit
50:03
making these last minute
50:04
decisions and everything else.
50:08
It's going to really bring down GoFundMe.
50:10
This could be these
50:11
crowdfunding websites.
50:13
They're just going to crash
50:14
because there's going to
50:15
be so many people out there
50:16
that's like, I just
50:18
can't, I can't drive anymore.
50:20
There's just too
50:21
much, it's just too much.
50:22
And it's like, yeah, no shit.
50:23
You shouldn't be driving to begin with.
50:25
These people who are
50:26
absolutely frightened
50:27
to be on the freeway, oh, I could go off
50:29
for another hour
50:30
about these motherfuckers.
50:32
But no, they're out there.
50:34
We're plagued with them.
50:35
And I'm sure some of you out there
50:37
who are just as oblivious as these people
50:39
I'm bitching about don't
50:40
see it as much as I do.
50:41
Oh no, they're
50:43
complaining about those people
50:44
then they're doing the same thing.
50:45
My wife often reminds me of this.
50:47
They're complaining about people like me
50:47
because how dare I do 47 and a 35.
50:51
Yeah, yeah.
50:52
And then they're going to be
50:53
in the lane to slow you down
50:54
because they are
50:57
frustrated, want to be police officer.
50:59
Oh yes, those, oh, don't
51:02
get me started about those
51:04
in the fast lane who
51:06
are trying to dictate
51:07
how fast everybody else is going.
51:09
I got a special fuck you,
51:11
you fucking fuck for those.
51:12
You don't need to be going that fast.
51:14
How dare you?
51:15
Oh yeah, I might save
51:17
that for a special edition
51:18
next week, that's what we're gonna do.
51:20
This is one of the great reasons
51:22
for us being a republic, not a democracy.
51:25
Can you imagine people
51:26
voting for how fast you could go,
51:27
how fast you could drive?
51:29
Well, I think there's
51:31
a few of us out there
51:32
that are like me that are at least know
51:34
that the speed limit is
51:36
more of a suggestion than a--
51:37
Oh yeah, it's a recommendation.
51:40
Do you know Texas state law is actually,
51:42
I need to look this up to verify,
51:44
but Texas state law actually is,
51:46
you can drive as fast
51:49
as what you want to drive
51:50
as long as it's safe.
51:53
So they do have a speed limit,
51:55
they will pull you over
51:56
and give you a ticket,
51:57
but you can argue in
51:58
court, it was a bright sunny day
52:01
or it was 3 a.m. in the morning.
52:03
And there was literally no cars on I-10
52:06
between Winnie and Beaumont.
52:08
The pavement is dry.
52:09
I've got, when the
52:10
speed limit was initiated,
52:12
the cars on the road
52:13
had four drum brakes.
52:14
I've got four disc brakes.
52:16
I've got airbags.
52:17
It is far more safer for me to travel
52:20
at 95 miles an hour down the freeway
52:22
than it was at 55 miles per hour
52:24
when this freeway was fucking built
52:25
and these stupid signs were put up
52:28
to limit how fast I can travel.
52:30
No, I'm completely ignoring those.
52:32
It feels comfortable to
52:34
travel at 88 miles an hour.
52:35
So that is how fast I am going to go.
52:38
Oh, and I think the yellow,
52:40
I think it's the yellow signs
52:41
that have speed limits on them.
52:42
The yellow speed signs,
52:42
those are recommended.
52:44
Those are not able to be heard.
52:46
But this is what I'm saying, in Texas,
52:49
the speed is all recommendations.
52:52
Well, I remember when you first,
52:54
when you and I first started recording,
52:56
you were talking about living in Texas
52:57
and how everybody has handed
52:59
the gun once you move in there
53:00
and then used for signaling.
53:02
And it's two shots for the
53:03
left and one shot for the right.
53:04
That's just how it's done in Texas.
53:06
Yeah, because you always
53:07
need two shots for the left.
53:09
That was part of the joke.
53:14
Well, that's it for this evening.
53:16
Hopefully you guys are enjoying this.
53:18
Josh, thank you so much for being back.
53:20
I've always enjoyed co-hosting with you.
53:22
And I'm so glad.
53:25
I mean, the stuff that you
53:27
have to do has only increased.
53:29
Your daily activities has only increased.
53:32
So I really appreciate you coming back.
53:34
And I was telling people,
53:36
it wasn't that you wanted to leave.
53:38
It wasn't that I wanted to leave.
53:39
It was just that you just had to go.
53:42
Of course, life has its way.
53:43
Life has its way.
53:44
So you can help Josh
53:46
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53:48
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53:49
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53:50
He's added you to his to-do
53:52
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53:54
So you can thank Josh just by making
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53:57
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54:02
Even if it's fuck you, you fucking fuck.
54:04
I'll take them all day long.
54:05
If you want a personalized,
54:08
fuck you, you fucking fuck.
54:09
We can do that too.
54:12
There's something for
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Patreon right there.
54:14
You want me to dish out a special F you,
54:17
you effing F to one of your in-laws.
54:19
I got one for your mother-in-law.
54:21
I've got one for just for her.
54:21
For their mother-in-law or wife, or ex-wife.
54:24
Absolutely ex-wife.
54:25
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55:47
Josh, take it away.
55:49
And that's it for this show, guys.
55:50
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55:53
Yeah, looking forward to next week.
55:55
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56:01
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56:06
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56:08
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56:09
Is this anything we can put those
56:10
pixelated things over
56:12
to cover some naughty
56:13
stuff on the screen?
56:14
Well, I could change the
56:15
wardrobe selection for that.
56:17
I could change the
56:18
wardrobe selection for that show.
56:19
Sure.
56:20
Let's have some fun.
56:22
All right, see you guys later.
56:23
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56:24
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