Latest / Investor Exchange / The FY2025 Profit Puzzle At Envictus International Revealed
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we are digging into a really interesting one.
- 0:13Invictus International Holdings Limited, that's EIHL, and their full year 2025 results.
- 0:20And this one really needs a deep dive, because if you just glance at the numbers,
- 0:23they tell two completely different, almost opposite stories.
- 0:26That's our mission today, to solve that contradiction. So here's the hook,
- 0:29the number that just jumps off the page.
- 0:32EIHL had really robust top-line growth.
- 0:35I mean, revenue shot up 8.4% to almost 745 million ringgit. Yeah, RM 744.6 million.
- 0:44And for an F&B operator of their size, that's a very healthy number.
- 0:48It shows the core business is working. Exactly. But then you scroll down and
- 0:51the net attributable profit just plummeted down a staggering 40.3%.
- 0:56Down to RM 30.2 million. It's corporate whiplash.
- 1:00How do you sell more stuff but make almost half as much profit?
- 1:03That usually screams operational failure. Or, and this is the case here,
- 1:06it signals that there's a lot of noise in the numbers.
- 1:08EIHL is a big player. You know, they've got three main parts to their business.
- 1:11There's food services, which is Texas chicken and San Francisco coffee.
- 1:15The ones people know. Right. Then dairies.
- 1:18With brands like Sujohan and their trading and frozen food arm,
- 1:22Pock Brothers, our job is to separate that noise from the real signal of business health.
- 1:28So, okay, let's unpack this. All right, let's start with the good news then. The operations.
- 1:32That 8.4% revenue growth was called broad-based. So where did that momentum
- 1:37actually come from? It was really a success story across the board.
- 1:40The biggest piece of the pie, food services, it delivered a really strong 7.8% increase.
- 1:47Okay, so they're the heavyweight. For sure. They brought in RM460.1 million,
- 1:52but the fastest growing part, percentage-wise.
- 1:54Yeah, where's the real acceleration coming from? That would be their dairies
- 1:57division. They posted a fantastic 12.0% jump in revenue.
- 2:02Wow, 12%. Yeah, up to RM144.7 million.
- 2:05And even the trading and frozen division, POC Brothers, they saw a respectable
- 2:08growth, too, up 6.9%. So, you know, it wasn't just one lucky break.
- 2:13Okay, so the top line is solid.
- 2:15But what about margins? In a year of crazy inflation, do they have to slash
- 2:20prices to get those sales?
- 2:21That is the critical question. And this is where management really looks good.
- 2:25Their gross profit margin held up. It stayed healthy at 45.1 percent,
- 2:30actually ticked up a tiny bit.
- 2:32So they managed to pass on their costs or find efficiencies?
- 2:35Exactly. They navigated all of it. Higher ingredient costs, wage hikes,
- 2:40new taxes, without killing their fundamental profitability. That's impressive.
- 2:45So if the gross margin is fine, let's look at a cleaner metric.
- 2:48Yeah. What does the adjusted EBITDA tell us?
- 2:51Now, here's where it gets really interesting. If you look at adjusted EBITDA,
- 2:55so that's earnings before all the accounting noise and crucially,
- 2:57excluding those big one off gains from last year, it actually rose.
- 3:01It went up. It did. Up 4.1 percent to RM104.4 million.
- 3:06So the core day to day business was actually getting more profitable.
- 3:10Wait, I have to challenge that a little.
- 3:11EBITDA is up 4.1%, but we know Texas Chicken opened, what, six new restaurants?
- 3:17How much of that is just new stores selling more chicken versus the existing
- 3:20stores actually getting better?
- 3:21That's a fair question, a really critical one, and the analysis suggests it's a mix of both.
- 3:27Management specifically called out healthy comparable store sales.
- 3:31You don't hold your gross margin at 45% while costs are rising unless your existing
- 3:35operations are getting more efficient.
- 3:37So yes, new outlets add volume, but that margin stability proves the underlying
- 3:41business got stronger too.
- 3:43All right, that makes sense. The foundation seems solid, so now we have to solve the big puzzle.
- 3:47That 40.3% drop in net profit, what were the specific things that made last
- 3:52year, FY 2024, look so good on paper?
- 3:56There were two seismic events, both tied to FY 2024's results.
- 4:00The first one is a massive drop in what's called other operating income.
- 4:04It fell by, get this, 74.4%. Whoa, from what to what? From RM28.5 million down to just RM7.3 million.
- 4:14That's a huge hole in the balance sheet. What was that income last year that just vanished?
- 4:18Think of it like this. In FY 2024, the company found an old valuable painting
- 4:22in the attic and sold it. A huge one-time cash injection.
- 4:25Specifically, they had a one-off net gain of about RM13.9 million from selling off some assets.
- 4:32The Pulau Inda facility and its subsidiary...
- 4:35That profit goes straight to the bottom line. But you can only sell that painting once.
- 4:39So FY 2024 was artificially inflated by selling off some of the family silver? Pretty much.
- 4:44And on top of that, they also had a nice foreign currency gain of RM 6.5 million in 2024.
- 4:51You take away nearly 20 million in one-off income, and of course the next year's
- 4:56profit is going to look a lot lower.
- 4:58Okay, so that explains the bad comparison. But what was the second major headwind?
- 5:03The one that actually hurt this year's results?
- 5:05This is the big one for the future. It was a huge increase in their income tax expense.
- 5:09This is where the success of Texas Chicken actually came back to bite them.
- 5:13How so? Their tax bill more than triple.
- 5:15It jumped 2.6 times, from RM 4.6 million all the way up to RM 17.0 million.
- 5:2117 million. Why such a massive jump? It's what you might call a good problem to have with bad optics.
- 5:27Texas Chicken, their profit engine, had been using up past tax losses and capital
- 5:32allowances to lower its tax bill.
- 5:34Well, in FY 2024, they used up the very last of them.
- 5:37So in FY 2025, boom, that super profitable division suddenly had to pay a full
- 5:43standard corporate tax rate.
- 5:44So this is a sign of financial maturity, really. Texas Chicken has graduated.
- 5:49It proves the business is structurally
- 5:50profitable, even if it hammers the net profit line for a year.
- 5:54That's exactly it. And remember, they did all this higher revenue,
- 5:57higher adjusted Edita, while juggling all those other cost pressures as the
- 6:02CEO mentioned, the SST tax expansion, minimum wage hikes, new electricity tariffs.
- 6:07The fact that core operational profits still went up shows some really sharp
- 6:11management. OK, so the big picture is clear now. Let's zoom in a bit.
- 6:14Did that resilience show up everywhere? We know food services is the main driver,
- 6:18but it's got two very different brands inside it.
- 6:21It really does. It's a tale of two very different stories.
- 6:23On one hand, you have Texas Chicken, the engine.
- 6:26Its revenue was up 10.0%, hitting RM429.5 million.
- 6:31They added six more restaurants. It is, without a doubt, the star of the show.
- 6:35And the other story, San Francisco Coffee.
- 6:38The numbers there look pretty bleak. They did.
- 6:40SF Coffee is facing a really tough environment.
- 6:44Its revenue dropped almost 16% down to RM 30.5 million.
- 6:49The reason they gave was intense competition. From who?
- 6:53Basically, a flood of new players in the mass market, all offering super low price drinks.
- 6:58It's a classic price war. And SFC is trying to be a premium brand in the middle of it.
- 7:04That's a tough spot. So how do they plan to fight back?
- 7:07They're changing their whole model. They're planning aggressive outlet openings.
- 7:11But, and this is the key part, using a new asset light model. Asset light.
- 7:16So less capital tied up in each new store. Exactly.
- 7:19Less risk. If you're going into a price war, you don't want to have a ton of
- 7:23your own money sunk into expensive real estate and equipment for a store that
- 7:26might not be very profitable.
- 7:27It's a defensive move to make their pricing more competitive. Makes sense.
- 7:31Let's move over to Dairy's. That was the division with that amazing 12% revenue growth.
- 7:35Dairy's is the other big success story this year. Their profit before TechStir,
- 7:39just the profit from that segment, it doubled.
- 7:41Jumped from RM 2.4 million to RM 4.6 million. Doubled. Okay,
- 7:45what drove that? Two things.
- 7:47First, they just got into more places.
- 7:49They gained traction in East Malaysia and, very impressively,
- 7:53got their products listed in 677 new retail outlets in West Malaysia.
- 8:00It was mainly through a major DIY chain. Think about that. Getting your condensed
- 8:04milk into a huge hardware and home goods store.
- 8:07That's a massive increase in visibility and volume overnight.
- 8:11And what about costs? I imagine dairies is really sensitive to global commodity
- 8:16prices. Oh, absolutely.
- 8:17And they caught a break. The price of one of their key ingredients,
- 8:20sugar, softened globally, that gave their margins a really nice tailwind.
- 8:24And they needed it because the cost of milk powder, their other main input, stayed high. Got it.
- 8:29And to round it out, the trading and frozen division, Pock Brothers.
- 8:32Their 6.9% growth was mostly tied to the hospitality sector's recovery.
- 8:37As tourism came back, so did sales to hotels and restaurants.
- 8:40They also kept things fresh with new products, like premium Indian beef.
- 8:44So the group seems to have a good handle on things.
- 8:47Looking ahead to FY2026, what are the concrete plans, especially now that they're
- 8:52facing that full tax bill?
- 8:53They're basically doubling down on what works.
- 8:56For Texas Chicken, it's all about expansion.
- 8:58They're planning 17 new restaurants, including their very first outlets in Saba.
- 9:03They need that volume growth to offset the higher tax. And the high-risk plan
- 9:07for San Francisco coffee. For SFC, it's about survival and trying to regain share.
- 9:13So more product innovation, better digital marketing. And as we said,
- 9:17pushing that asset light model for new openings, it's their main weapon against
- 9:21the low cost competition.
- 9:23What about external factors?
- 9:25Anything that could give them a boost, especially for that trading division
- 9:28that's so reliant on imports? Yes.
- 9:30And this is a really interesting strategic point. Polk Brothers is perfectly
- 9:34positioned to benefit from the new Johor Singapore special economic zone, the SEZ.
- 9:40If that SEZ does what it's supposed to, move out trade and logistics between
- 9:45Malaysia and Singapore, it could be a huge help for them in managing those high
- 9:49import and shipping costs.
- 9:51It's a potential tailwind. If we connect this to the bigger picture,
- 9:54it sounds like they'll need all the help they can get. The macroeconomic pressures aren't going away.
- 9:58No, they're not. They're still facing inflation, higher labor and utility costs,
- 10:03the full effect of the SST.
- 10:05Those are persistent headwinds. Is there any potential relief on the horizon?
- 10:09The one thing they're hoping for is a stronger ringgit. If the Malaysian currency
- 10:14strengthens, especially against the U.S.
- 10:16Dollar, that would immediately lower the cost of their imported raw materials.
- 10:21Things like milk powder and beef, that would provide some very welcome margin relief.
- 10:25So let's bring it all back home for you, the listener.
- 10:28The core takeaway here is that EIHL's actual business, the day-to-day operation,
- 10:33is growing and resilient.
- 10:35We saw that in the revenue numbers and that 4.1% jump in adjusted EBITDA.
- 10:39Right. The huge 40% drop in net profit was really just a financial reporting issue.
- 10:43It came from two things, not repeating those big asset sales from last year,
- 10:47and second, their star performer, Texas Chicken, finally starting to pay its full share of taxes.
- 10:53It's a perfect example of why you have to look beyond the headline number.
- 10:56The underlying business is strong, which is what you really want to see,
- 11:00even if the net profit figure looks, well, temporarily ugly.
- 11:03Exactly. You have to focus on those adjusted operational metrics to see the
- 11:08true health of the company.
- 11:09A really compelling story. So here's a final thought for you to mull over.
- 11:11The group is clearly betting on external economic drivers,
- 11:15things like the tourism recovery and the strategic boost from that new Johor
- 11:19Singapore SEZ to help offset the persistent rise in their internal costs like labor and utilities.
- 11:25So the question is, which force will win out in FY2026, their strategic expansion
- 11:31or the unavoidable squeeze of rising domestic costs?