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The Sands Of Time With LOCHLAN WATT From RUN · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  My name is Lachlan Wat and I am responsible for a project called Run.
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  We put out our debut release in twenty twenty as a studio project that I
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  was spearheading with a producer and a session drummer, and from there it had
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  evolved through a few different lineups into being like a full band. And then
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  in twenty twenty three we put out a couple of singles. There's a bit
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  of a testing ground for that, and then now finally we have our second
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  EP, True Heaviness Is Time, which is out now. Beautiful lock on.
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  Thanks for joining us today, brother, thank you for having me Chris
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  Bye, Well those are so Run today releasing a surprise EP titled True Heaviness
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  Is Time. So why the secretive nature of the release? Mate? Like
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  this this day and age, people don't like surprises. I might beg to
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  differ like people seem to be really excited about the surprise bring Me the Horizon
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  album last week? True? And I Yeah, I work in this industry
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  and see bands just doing the same thing over and over again in terms of
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  having pre orders and release rollouts and stuff. And I just thought that because
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  I'm not beholden to anyone else or any record labels or anything. With this,
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  it's like, why not just do it a little bit differently? And
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  we've sort of because the singles. We've released three of the singles so far,
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  and so people have already got fifty percent of the EP because it's six
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  tracks, And if we were to announce the EP now and then have like,
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  Okay, it's coming out in a couple of months, it's like,
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  I feel like that would be a little bit deflationary, like you'd lose a
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  bit of the excitement. And maybe we could have announced the EP a long
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  time ago while we were rolling out these singles. But the way that the
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  artwork is kind of all set up, it's like slowly reveals the bigger picture
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  throughout the singles, okay, And I just think that it's a more exciting
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  way to do it, and you kind of get a little taste of what
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  the bigger picture is with each single and then now boom, you can see
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  the full picture and you understand what we were doing. Yeah, I get
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  it completely, bro. I think it's a great idea. It's just people
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  these days, you find it's just that they're more structured with the way they
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  do things, and I think it's a great idea to upset the Apple card
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  a be it well done, thanks man, oh So, tell us a
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  bit more about the EP from a musical point of view and what you're going
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  for with it. The concept with Run has always kind of just been to
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  be a collision or enmeshing of a few of my favorite subgenres of heavy music,
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  like metalcore and deathcore, but like an old school kind of metal core
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  sound with like post metal and the post black metal sort of thing. Some
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  of the major influences of Run from the start have been like Deaf Heaven,
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  Misery Signals, the Amity Affliction, Parkway Drive, Fit for an Autopsy,
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  Converge, Rosetta, the Ocean, stuff like that, And I think that
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  we've kind of created a sound that you can hear where everything's come from.
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  But I think overall it's kind of unique. And then I don't really think
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  there's any other band that's really doing this is the same mix in the same
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  way that we are. And I think on this new EP, it's a
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  lot more focused. The songwriting is a bit more cleanly structured, and the
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  metal core sound element of it has come a little bit more to the forefront.
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  I still think it sounds like exactly the same band, but the black
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  metal side of things is perhaps a little bit less prominent, and there's a
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  lot more breakdowns, which is fun and a way more satisfying to play live.
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  And it's just kind of happened because of who's in the band now,
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  and like the guy's writing that wrote these songs, you know, come from
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  more of a metal core, hardcore background as opposed to the guy, the
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  producer who I did the first EP with, who was more of like an
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  artistic sort of post metal, post hardcore guy. But yeah, as I
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  said, I still think it sounds like the same band, it's just a
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  lot more focused and a lot more more Washey, oh now you released a
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  single Summer, Spring and Autumn so far made so the names of them strongly
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  suggest the common theme of seasons on the EP. Is that correct? Yes,
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  So EP is called true Heaviness is Time, and it's you look at
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  the cover art, it's like an intergalactic sun dial And I just liked the
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  idea of splitting that into into the four seasons because the concept, well,
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  there's an overarching kind of theme on the record about time and how it comes
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  for us all and it's the most brutal, sort of unifying element of existence.
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  And I just thought the seasons kind of lent themselves to some really nice
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  visuals and color schemes and stuff. And when we didn't actually write the songs
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  with the specific seasons in mind, it was like, oh, we got
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  got a bunch of songs. Time to kind of figure out the concept and
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  put it all together. And I was kind of like, this song has
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  the most blast beats, and it's the most black metal sounds, the darkest.
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  This obviously has to be winter. This song has kind of got like
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  a bit of a bit of like the slow delayed kind of intro, and
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  it's starting to get a bit darker. It feels like autumn to me.
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  This song has the big melodic chorus that's obviously summer. This one's an explosion
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  of energy. It's it's spring. And then to flesh it out a bit
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  more, we have the title track as the intro, and then we just
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  we had an extra song laying around and thought we'd do one more with one
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  way out as as like a big finale sort of closer. All right,
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  Well, what we'll do bro is like the EP's only got six songs on
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  it. Like you say, so, well, I want to go through
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  each track individually made and tell us a bit more about the song of what
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  you're going for with it and how it relates to the theme of the record.
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  So it starts with true Heaviness is Time. Yeah, So that's literally
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  just like a title track and intro track. Like we started playing that song
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  a couple of years ago, just as like a live intro, and it
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  never used to have lyrics. It was just like a song to get the
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  crowd ged up and I'd sort of do like a kind of hey, what's
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  up, we are such and such thing over it. So there's no real
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  concept or lyrics to it. I think there's like two lines of lyrics that
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  aren't just the title itself, and that's so that's that song. It's pretty
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  simple. It's just an announcement, this is what the EP is, this
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  is what it's about, have some washing riffs to get you psyched up for
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  what's to come. Has Sweet and Spring and featuring Joel Birch is up next.
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  Yeah, So that's just kind of like a bit of a mission stay
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  song. I suppose it's it's just about being alive and creation and trying to
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  kind of link this ep into having like a spacey kind of theme, because
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  that's always been a thing with Run Is, like the sci fi kind of
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  space vibes, and the there's a there's a reference to like the Big Bang
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  in the opening track, and that's basically just like all right, life has
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  begun, creation is here, and then we sort of resolve that in the
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  final track with the opposite end of that. But I think I don't have
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  to think of hang on, give me a sec I don't. I don't
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  know if there's any specific event or anything that inspired that song, but it
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  is just kind of a lyrical waxing on being alive and how it's uh,
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  you know, not always easy perhaps, but it's still a beautiful thing.
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  Yes, right, then you've got Summer. Yes, Summer is it's like
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  I'd say when I said, it's bright kind of musically, but lyric ah
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  incredibly sad and were inspired by really dark subject matter. I had rewritten the
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  lyrics to Summer and scrapped them several times over because I just wasn't really sure
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  what the song was about and I wasn't happy with anything. And then when
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  Ryan from Polaris passed away. It kind of something clicked and I understood what
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  the song was about at that point, and getting John Floriani on the song
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  to sing as well was really cool because I kind of ripped off some of
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  his lyric from the last Trophy Ies record with the chorus, like because I
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  think he's got a line on one of their songs that says like, if
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  you go now, you only pass on your pain. Stay here, And
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  what I wrote was like, you took your pain and you passed it on
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  to others, and then a bit of a double meaning thing saying I took
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  your art to recreate it as my own, as in like I've ripped off
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  my friend here lyrically, and I'm sort of trying to be trying to take
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  the passing, the untimely passing of a friend is something constructive, like because
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  Ryan was a very inspiring talented musician, and I figured the best way for
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  me to honor the deaths of my friends is to immortalize the feelings that I
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  got from those events into songs. Oh and Autumn is up next, and
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  that's interesting in the fact that it's the only one out of the season is
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  that hasn't got a guest artist. Is there a reason for that. I
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  tried to get a guest vocalist on it, and the one that I was
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  going for couldn't do it, and so eventually I just was kind of like,
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  well, if I can't get the big the big gun, then I
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  will just do this one myself. So it's like I just thought fifty to
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  fifty guest vocals, not guest vocals in terms of the tracks. But Autumn
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  is another suicide inspired song. I wrote the lyrics to that song after returning
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  home from Sean Kennedy's funeral in twenty twenty two. I believe it was Sean
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  from I Killed the prom Queen, and obviously I killed the prom Queen.
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  It has been a gigantic influence on my life, one of the reasons I'm
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  playing this kind of music today. And I was incredibly gutted by Sean's passing,
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  and I wanted to put those feelings into a song. And I suppose
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  in a way, Summer is also about him as well, in terms of
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  taking their art, taking the art of my friends, and sort of reinventing
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  it in my own vision to keep their memories alive beautiful. Then you move
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  on to our winter. Yeah, Winter is a Winter is a song that
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  I wrote for my wife, basically about our insane connection that we felt since
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  the moment we met each other, and just how passionate and volatile our relationship
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  has and can be, and that it's kind of a song about how love
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  perhaps isn't always easy and can involve a lot of just as much pain as
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  it can joy, but how we work through it and grow together. Yeah,
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  and you touched on the final track before One Way Out. Instead it's
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  just just a bang and a close the album. Yeah, so One Way
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  Out is kind of not really about anything specific. It's more just like a
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  a philosophical song that probably ties more into the title track than anything else,
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  just just about the nature of existence and some of my thoughts on that,
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  and then the it kind of ties it all up about with this idea of
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  everybody and the whole universe eventually kind of sucking sucking back in on itself and
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  all light going into a black hole, and how it's all like a great
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  mystery. But you know, contrasting Spring to One Way Out, it was
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  like, here's the explosion in the Big Bang, and then One Way Out
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  is like, here's the black hole, the end of I suppose it might
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  be a double meaning the end of the end of life when when your time's
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  up, and the end of the universe itself pretty deep. Now you've also
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  got a limited vinyl run which also features your twenty twenty debut EP where you
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  will Never Find Peace within Your Quiet as the B side. So tell us
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  a bit about that. Yeah, so if you will ever find peace.
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  Never really like got like a vinyl physic like it had like an art print
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  set, but we never did a physical vinyl or a CD or anything.
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  And so, because both EPs can fit on one side of a twelve inch
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  each, it just seemed like a waste to do a single sided twelve inch
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  or to like try and squash it down into a double sided seven or something.
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  It was just like people have been asking for that release on vinyls since
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  the start, well since it came out, and it just seemed like the
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  most efficient way to wrap it all up. And visually, both EPs are
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  very strongly tied together. The cover art for the first EP it starts off
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  as the little tree and then goes up through the landscape until you get to
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  out of space, and then the new EP is like looking back down on
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  that landscape from out of space, and it's the same mountain that you sort
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  of traverse through across the artwork on the first EP and all the different because
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  all the different singles have their own artwork on both EPs, and you kind
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  of traverse the landscape and then you get up into space for the second EP
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  and you're looking back down on that first one. And so I think it
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  just conceptually just makes total sense to have it all as a complete package,
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  and so then we can get that out and then as I move towards whatever
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  the next releases are going to be, there'll be perhaps a continuation, if
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  not a fresh start, or a sort of bit of both with the concepts
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  for that, you know, when where could people get themselves Ahold of the
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  EP or the vital raw Stiff Cut Records will be launching very limited pre orders
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  on the let me check the date, I believe it is the Friday,
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  the seventh of June, and they're very very limited. I think there's about
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  one hundred and eighty copies all up, and all the very variations are extremely
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  limited. So it's a very cool collector's item, and it's very unlikely that
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  either EP will ever be pressed to vinyl again, unless somehow Run blows up
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  and gets really big in the coming years, which would be nice, but
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  I'm not sure that I could really see that happening at this point, so
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  it could just be a very much be just a one and done sort of
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  thing. So if you've ever been interested in owning our release is on vinyl,
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  you get to it. You got a frocker. Well, thanks very
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  much for your time today, Bro, the ap true happiness. His time
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  is out now, So babe yourself, copy yourselves like it's gott some interesting
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  little little bits to go with it too. Light the cover and stuff too,
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  bro. So you well, we're checking out. Thank you so much.
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