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Mark interviews Boston radio host Howie Carr. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show, now 9 till noon.
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  Speaker 2: Weekdays on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, one of the great talk show hosts in the world,
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  Speaker 1: Howie Carr. You can hear him on iHeart. You can
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  Speaker 1: hear his show, his podcast. Just go to the iHeart app.
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  Speaker 1: You can get all of his best-selling books. And you
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  Speaker 1: can actually get everything at his website, HowieCarrShow.com. HowieCarrShow.com. Howie Carr,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Very good. It's primary election day here in Massachusetts. Uh-oh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Ed Markey, age 80, backed by Bernie Sanders, age 85,
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  Speaker 3: and Elizabeth Warren, age 78, seems to be headed for
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  Speaker 3: victory over the insufferable former presidential candidate, Seth Moulton. Seth
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  Speaker 3: Moulton ran for president the same year Eric Swalwell did.
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  Speaker 3: At least Moulton's going to lose, but at least he
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been stopped by FBI agents at the airport.
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  Speaker 2: He had his cell phones grabbed.
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  Speaker 1: Ed Markey's been around Massachusetts for a million years. You
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  Speaker 1: guys are used to him. What's the problem with him?
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  Speaker 3: As someone at the Statehouse, a fellow Democrat says, he's
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  Speaker 3: the man that the time forgot. He's been there since
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  Speaker 3: Gerald Ford was president. And he's never done anything, never
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  Speaker 3: done anything. And he, uh, you know, he filed separate
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  Speaker 3: taxes from his wife. So he says, I'm not getting rich,
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  Speaker 3: but he's got a nice measure. His wife has a
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  Speaker 3: nice mansion in Chevy chase. He barely, he, he, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he spends any time in Massachusetts. I mean, he's.
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  Speaker 3: I guess this is good news for Chuck Schumer, though,
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  Speaker 3: because I think Seth Moulton would vote to, like so
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  Speaker 3: many of the others, would vote to get rid of
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  Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer. But again, Chuck Schumer's a dead man walking himself,
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  Speaker 3: isn't he?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So what's the difference? Marky sounds like Schumer, a
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  Speaker 1: guy who does nothing, been there too long.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How did he survive?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. He's just, I guess maybe he's more
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  Speaker 3: innocuous than Schumer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And he's, you know, he's, he's smart. And the only
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  Speaker 3: time he's up here is when he's running for reelection.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas Schumer, you know, he. I mean, you remember back
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  Speaker 3: in the old days when he was first elected to
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  Speaker 3: Congress and then when he was running against the Fonz.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was this guy. The people in New
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  Speaker 2: York used to show me this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they have the sheets that, you know, what
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  Speaker 3: the news events are of the day. And he knew
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  Speaker 3: that there was nothing happening on Sunday. So every Sunday he.
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  Speaker 2: Would be the first.
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  Speaker 3: He would be the first, uh, you know, guy on the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: on the, the sheet that, that went out to all
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  Speaker 3: the TV stations and the newspapers and the wire services. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Marky, Marky has been smart enough not to,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when he just raises his head, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when the Patriots last won the Superbowl, he
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  Speaker 3: congratulated the Boston Patriots, which, you know, they haven't been
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  Speaker 3: the Boston Patriots since 1970, but he didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Uh, yeah, he's kind of like, uh, it's like
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  Speaker 1: Howard Stern, these old fossils after 75 years, you got
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  Speaker 1: to quit. You got to go, uh, Schumer. So, Hey, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you're a protege there, Caroline Levitt stepping down. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think she'll do next?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think, I think she's going to
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  Speaker 3: go to work for MAGA, but I think that just seems,
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  Speaker 3: I would think that's just sort of a, uh, you know, a, uh,
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  Speaker 3: transitional place for her.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, do you think she goes
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  Speaker 2: to work for Fox?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you trained her. I know she's got a
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  Speaker 1: standing offer at Fox. But I can imagine her having
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  Speaker 1: a huge TV career at some point. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: those ex-press secretaries do. Dana Perino, Kayleigh McEnany. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: where she'll end up.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know what the long-term future is for
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  Speaker 3: the cable TV stations.
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  Speaker 2: I know they'll be around for a while, but.
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  Speaker 3: Is that really the way to go, or is it
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  Speaker 3: better to just get into streaming and just try to
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  Speaker 3: anticipate the next wave?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Fox is pretty good over there. They
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  Speaker 1: send you a big limousine to pick you up. They
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  Speaker 1: got a buffet outside the studio. They got makeup. You
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  Speaker 1: don't get all that with the streaming. It's not the same.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It goes fast.
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  Speaker 3: As Ernest Hemingway said, first you go bankrupt gradually, then suddenly.
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  Speaker 3: It happens quickly in the media, Mark. You may have
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  Speaker 3: noticed in the last few decades. What is happening at CBS,
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  Speaker 3: by the way? What are they doing?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going to go well. You know, 60 Minutes,
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  Speaker 1: if this were Don Hewitt and the real 60 Minutes,
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  Speaker 1: and you saw this fraud and that kid exposing old
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  Speaker 1: Nick Shirley, wouldn't they send Mike Wallace right away? When,
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  Speaker 1: how could they ignore a story like that and not
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  Speaker 1: cover it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I, I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who are the, who are these new people
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  Speaker 3: that they're bringing in? I mean, they, they don't, uh, they,
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  Speaker 3: do they, do they know anything about TV news? I mean, not,
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  Speaker 3: not that you have to know a lot, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they seem to have any experience.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't know how they get in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Cause nobody, nobody's going to recognize them or know the name,
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  Speaker 1: get in past that guard. But, uh, Hey, let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you something. I was talking about this yesterday. You're
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  Speaker 1: the Kennedy expert. You've written the best books on the Kennedys.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want Trump's name on the Kennedy Center. They're
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  Speaker 1: all up in arms. If these liberals today, if these
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  Speaker 1: Democrats today knew what John F. Kennedy stood for, his
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  Speaker 1: political positions, wouldn't they want his name off the building too?
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  Speaker 1: He was anti-abortion. He was pro-war. He was a tax cutter.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't they hate him as much?
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  Speaker 3: He couldn't get on the ballot in Massachusetts because you've
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  Speaker 3: got to get 15% of the vote at the state
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  Speaker 3: Democratic convention, and he couldn't do it. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: didn't he build a pool in the White House and
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  Speaker 3: nobody said anything?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then Nixon didn't like the pool, so Nixon built
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  Speaker 3: a bowling alley over it and nobody said anything. Didn't
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  Speaker 3: Obama build a— build a basketball court going way back.
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  Speaker 3: Another Massachusetts president Coolidge built a, built.
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  Speaker 2: A tennis courts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what is the big deal here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think we have, I think as one
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  Speaker 3: of the Supreme court justices noted, I think we have
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  Speaker 3: a precedent here for allowing to do a little work
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  Speaker 3: on the white house.
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  Speaker 2: Don't we?
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  Speaker 1: Very good point. Hey, the midterms, the criticism of the Republicans, uh,
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  Speaker 1: is they don't have their messaging going. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: a message. They don't have the right campaign going.
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  Speaker 2: Do you agree?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I wish it were, again, I think
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  Speaker 3: I've said this before on the show, but I just,
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  Speaker 3: I'm most worried about the fuel prices. You know, it's,
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  Speaker 3: you know, gasoline and diesel, which affects everything that's delivered.
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  Speaker 2: And now we're getting into the fall and.
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  Speaker 3: That means home heating oil is I mean, that's what
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  Speaker 3: they've got to get under control. I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: as gloomy as most people. You know these stories, Texas
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  Speaker 3: is in play. Well, isn't that like a standing head
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  Speaker 3: in regime-controlled media? Wasn't Beto O'Rourke going to defeat Ted Cruz?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've heard.
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  Speaker 3: This stuff before, and I just don't see it happening. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, and again, there's some there's some
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  Speaker 3: states that shouldn't be in play that are for Republicans
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  Speaker 3: like Michigan. I mean, that guy, Al-Said, I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: was so glad yesterday that Congresswoman McClain finally asked the
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  Speaker 3: question that I've been wondering why no one in the
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  Speaker 3: media will ask. If Medicare for all is so good,
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  Speaker 3: why doesn't Al-Said's wife, who's a psychiatrist, accept Medicare, Medicaid
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  Speaker 3: patients into her practice? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, great point. But you know who benefits from
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  Speaker 1: all of this? AOC was the crazy radical. Now, after
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  Speaker 1: all these El-Sayeds show up, she looks like Margaret Thatcher
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  Speaker 1: compared to these people. This is going to help her
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  Speaker 1: run in 2028 if she wants.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but once this kind of revolution gets going here,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, this is the pattern, isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: They just keep eating their own food. And they just–
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  Speaker 3: so she– I mean, you know, if this follows the
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  Speaker 3: pattern of, say, the French Revolution or the Roman Republic
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  Speaker 3: going back to the death of Julius Caesar, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: she's going to be taken out eventually too, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point because I don't think these– Chuck Schumer,
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  Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries, these types don't realize. You can cater to
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  Speaker 1: them and bow down to this DSA. But you're right.
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  Speaker 1: That's the– every dictator, the first people they hang are the–
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  Speaker 1: The leaders that were trying to appease him.
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  Speaker 3: Leon Trotsky could tell you that story if he were
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  Speaker 3: still around. How about what happened to Brad Lander the
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  Speaker 3: other day?
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  Speaker 2: You know? He did their dirty work for them. He
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  Speaker 2: was Kerensky, the white Russian for them. And then.
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  Speaker 3: Lenin and Stalin turned around and they're going to whack him.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to get whacked in the next primary, right?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it couldn't happen to a worse guy, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't mind.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I know. It's hard to shed any tears
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  Speaker 2: for any of these people.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Howie Carr, great. Hey, you should read Howie Carr's books.
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  Speaker 1: I love Kennedy Babylon, the Kennedy books, the Whitey Bulger books.
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  Speaker 1: But what's your latest book you got coming out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mass Corruption, Volume 2. I'm doing pre-orders now. We
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  Speaker 3: just sent the final galleys.
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  Speaker 2: Over to the printer. It'll be printed in October.
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  Speaker 3: It's about all the continuing corruption in Massachusetts, which just,
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  Speaker 3: it just never ends. And You know, there've already been
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  Speaker 3: new scandals since I finished writing it, but uh, you
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  Speaker 3: can order it now, go to how we car show.com
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  Speaker 3: and click on store. And, uh, you can, uh, you
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  Speaker 3: can order mass corruption to say five bucks pre-order.
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  Speaker 2: It'll arrive in October.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I went to school in Boston. It
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  Speaker 1: was a nice, wonderful new England. I had no idea
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  Speaker 1: what was going on until I read your book, the
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  Speaker 1: brother's bulger and mass corruption. And Who knew this stuff
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  Speaker 1: was going on there behind the scenes?
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  Speaker 2: You should see what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: We're breaking stories every week about state police being arrested.
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  Speaker 3: The stuff they're doing is just, it's horrible. When I
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  Speaker 3: was a kid, the state police were incorruptible. Now they're
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  Speaker 3: anything but. And yeah, I don't know. The city on
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  Speaker 3: the hill is not what it used to be. The
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  Speaker 3: governor went to it, would not recognize it. Nor would
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  Speaker 3: Cotton matter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, if you want to keep up on all this,
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  Speaker 1: just listen to Howie Carr every day. You can get
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  Speaker 1: him on the iHeart app, iHeart Radio, Howie Carr's show,
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  Speaker 1: Howie Carr's podcast. You can get his books. Just go
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  Speaker 1: to his website. You can get everything there, HowieCarrShow.com, HowieCarrShow.com.
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  Speaker 1: Great talking to you, Howie Carr. Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Mark. Always a pleasure. Bye-bye. Take care.
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