Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 04 March 2025
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The issues, these reviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
- 0:06Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
- 0:11Speaker 1: new stalks, it'd.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Be welcome morning to you, Welcome into the program. Thank
- 0:15Speaker 2: you so much for choosing us today. In the next hour,
- 0:18Speaker 2: the government gives money for deep water salmon farming. Now
- 0:22Speaker 2: is this a winner? We'll talk to the aquaculture CEO
- 0:25Speaker 2: in five minutes. The Wellington water scandal. How did Wellington
- 0:30Speaker 2: get so ripped off with its water and what are
- 0:32Speaker 2: they going to do about it? The Poilo grower mayor
- 0:35Speaker 2: joins us in ten minutes. Australia has a tropical cyclone
- 0:38Speaker 2: bearing down on it. Don at de Mayo with details
- 0:40Speaker 2: after five point thirty. And there's more money to train
- 0:42Speaker 2: up doctors from overseas. So why is this money coming
- 0:45Speaker 2: so late? And now will it help that story? Just
- 0:48Speaker 2: before six we'll have corresponders from right around New Zealand
- 0:51Speaker 2: and all around the world and news as it breaks.
- 0:53Speaker 2: And you can contribute by texting me at the number
- 0:56Speaker 2: to texts ninety two to ninety two. A small charge
- 0:58Speaker 2: applies if you want to write to me. It is
- 1:01Speaker 2: Dickens at Newstalk STB dot co dot NZ. It's seven
- 1:04Speaker 2: after five.
- 1:06Speaker 1: The agenda.
- 1:08Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the fourth of February. First to the Russian
- 1:11Speaker 2: Ukraine War. UK President Takia Stamer has told us MPs
- 1:16Speaker 2: that Britain will play or will play a leading role
- 1:20Speaker 2: in securing peace. He says, if necessary, this could involve
- 1:24Speaker 2: boots on the ground and planes of the year. Meanwhile,
- 1:27Speaker 2: French President Emmanuel Macran has suggested a partial one month
- 1:31Speaker 2: truce in Ukraine.
- 1:33Speaker 3: It would be for a month, a truth that would
- 1:36Speaker 3: consist on a ceasefire on air sea and also with
- 1:40Speaker 3: regards to energetical installations, but the combats on the grounds
- 1:44Speaker 3: would potentially continue, and if this is respected, then we
- 1:48Speaker 3: would move to the second step of the plan, which
- 1:51Speaker 3: wouldn't pay of course, stopping all combats on the battlefield
- 1:55Speaker 3: and working on an agreeable keys deal.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Been driving into crowds again in Germany. One person has
- 2:02Speaker 2: been killed and several others injured after a car drove
- 2:05Speaker 2: into a crowd in the western city of Mannheim. Police
- 2:08Speaker 2: say a suspect has been arrested and people in the
- 2:11Speaker 2: city have been told to stay indoors. Police have not
- 2:13Speaker 2: specified whether the incident was deliberate or an accident, but
- 2:17Speaker 2: you know, Germany has experienced several of these attacks in
- 2:20Speaker 2: the past year.
- 2:21Speaker 4: What we do know is that the car drove into
- 2:24Speaker 4: a crowd of people. We also know that Mannheim at
- 2:26Speaker 4: the moment is celebrating Carnival. Today in Germany is rosa
- 2:32Speaker 4: montag that needs sort of rose or pink Monday. It's
- 2:35Speaker 4: an important day in the carnival calendar. And there is
- 2:39Speaker 4: food stools in parts of Mannheim and fairground Rise.
- 2:43Speaker 2: And finally to Los Angeles, and it was a historic
- 2:45Speaker 2: night at the Oscars yesterday. The night began with this
- 2:48Speaker 2: performance from Ariander Grande and Cynthia Rivo from the film Wicked.
- 2:54Speaker 5: There's no fight, we cannot will never bring us dumb.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Big song.
- 3:17Speaker 6: Eh.
- 3:18Speaker 2: There were no slaps, there were no mix ups announcing
- 3:20Speaker 2: who's won which award, But it was the first time
- 3:22Speaker 2: an independent film won five awards. The romantic comedy An
- 3:26Speaker 2: Order took home Best Actress for breakout star Mikey Madison,
- 3:29Speaker 2: much to the shock of Demi Moore, and also a
- 3:32Speaker 2: record breaking four prizes for its director Sean Baker. And
- 3:35Speaker 2: here's a clip from Mikey Madison's acceptance speech.
- 3:38Speaker 7: This is a dream come true. I'm probably gonna wake
- 3:41Speaker 7: up tomorrow. I also just want to again recognize and
- 3:46Speaker 7: honor the sex worker community.
- 3:49Speaker 6: I will.
- 3:52Speaker 7: I will continue to support and be an ally all
- 3:56Speaker 7: of the incredible people, the women that I've had the
- 3:58Speaker 7: privilege of meeting from that community. Has been one of
- 4:02Speaker 7: the highlights of this incredible of this entire incredible experience.
- 4:06Speaker 2: I'm sure she did wake up today. And finally, I'd
- 4:09Speaker 2: just like to apologize for the fact that I said
- 4:11Speaker 2: February when, of course it is now the fourth of March.
- 4:15Speaker 2: But you know, this year is just going too quick.
- 4:17Speaker 2: It's eleven after five.
- 4:19Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
- 4:21Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
- 4:26Speaker 1: Your Property Search Simple News Talk zid Bey.
- 4:29Speaker 2: I was shocked yesterday. There is no worse story than
- 4:34Speaker 2: the scandal around Wellington Water. Scathing reports released yesterday confirmed
- 4:39Speaker 2: that Wellington ratepayers have been ripped off for an unplanned
- 4:42Speaker 2: pipe maintenance, and they've been paying three times more than
- 4:45Speaker 2: other ratepayers in other cities. Wellington Water had few systems
- 4:49Speaker 2: in place to detect and prevent fraud. Chairban Nick Leggett
- 4:52Speaker 2: has apologized and offered to resign Meanwhile, the former CEO
- 4:56Speaker 2: has been vilified for a lack of oversight, and so
- 4:59Speaker 2: the public servants have rightfully got it in the neck.
- 5:04Speaker 2: The structure of their system and the oversight has been
- 5:07Speaker 2: woefully negligent. But come on, at the root of the
- 5:10Speaker 2: matter are the people who had no qualms in ripping
- 5:12Speaker 2: off their fellow Wellington ratepayers. And talking about the contractors,
- 5:15Speaker 2: I don't know how they live with themselves. They must
- 5:18Speaker 2: be known to their neighbors. Everyone now knows how they
- 5:20Speaker 2: make their money by fleecing the people of Wellington. We
- 5:23Speaker 2: now know where you got your batch. We now know
- 5:26Speaker 2: where you got your new ute that you're so proud of.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And this is not the New Zealand way. We've always
- 5:31Speaker 2: prided ourselves in a relative lack of corruption in our
- 5:34Speaker 2: business community. But hello, and Wellington Water contractors have imagined
- 5:38Speaker 2: they're in the sopranos and they have merely roughted the
- 5:41Speaker 2: system for years and possibly laughed about it. Wellington Water
- 5:45Speaker 2: is being disestablished and their systems will be brought up
- 5:48Speaker 2: to speed for the new entity. But for the contractors
- 5:51Speaker 2: who have ripped their fellow citizens off, you should reconsider
- 5:55Speaker 2: your future and you should get out of business because
- 5:58Speaker 2: you are not to be trusted.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Dickens.
- 6:03Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Anita Baker, the mayor of
- 6:05Speaker 2: Poderua shortly on this in about ten minutes time. Hey,
- 6:08Speaker 2: how about all these private spaceships landing on the Moon.
- 6:11Speaker 2: You saw it on the telly last night on Sunday.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Firefly Aerospace's Blue Ghost ship touchdown and I've seen the
- 6:19Speaker 2: wonderful video of the view as it's skimmed across the
- 6:21Speaker 2: surface of the Moon. The Moon still looks like a
- 6:23Speaker 2: crater poked gravel pit, but it looked amazing on Thursday,
- 6:27Speaker 2: and ai intuitive Lander will arrive. It'll be their second.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Their first landed back in February last year, but unfortunately
- 6:35Speaker 2: it toppled over it May. A Japanese company called ice
- 6:38Speaker 2: Space is expected to land the air craft. So the
- 6:41Speaker 2: race is on, and that's a challenge to NASA and
- 6:44Speaker 2: Elon Musk and their Artemis project. That project's very expensive,
- 6:48Speaker 2: but it has the support of Donald Trump because he
- 6:50Speaker 2: wants to use it as a staging point to get
- 6:52Speaker 2: all the way to Mars. But all these competitors, these
- 6:55Speaker 2: private competitors getting to the Moon on the cheap is
- 6:58Speaker 2: giving the States the willy wobbles. The Chinese have talked
- 7:01Speaker 2: about a manned moon base by twenty thirty, and that's soon.
- 7:06Speaker 2: And one US congressman is very worried about the Chinese,
- 7:11Speaker 2: saying his greatest fear is that they will get to
- 7:14Speaker 2: the moon only to be greeted by a no trespassing
- 7:16Speaker 2: notice written in Amandarin.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, it's by fourteen.
- 7:21Speaker 2: So the government has given money into salmon farming. You
- 7:25Speaker 2: have to ask why and why couldn't the public set
- 7:27Speaker 2: to get in?
- 7:28Speaker 8: It's what how much?
- 7:29Speaker 2: It's about twelve million dollars. They reckon this will increase
- 7:32Speaker 2: exports by five hundred million. So if it's such a
- 7:35Speaker 2: good deal, where's the private money? Anyway? That's a good question,
- 7:37Speaker 2: and I'll ask that of Gary Hooper, here is the
- 7:40Speaker 2: CEO of aquaculture in New Zealand. He's my guess. Next
- 7:43Speaker 2: here on NEWSTALKSB.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
- 7:49Speaker 1: and one Roof Make Your Property Search Simple News Talk.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Zib it's sixteen past five. The government's betting our aquaculture
- 7:57Speaker 2: will go from strength to strength. That's putting on almost
- 8:00Speaker 2: twelve million dollars into salmon farming, mainly to expand it
- 8:03Speaker 2: to deep water and to prove that it all works.
- 8:06Speaker 2: If it does, it's thought it could increase salmon exports
- 8:09Speaker 2: by five hundred million dollars. So Agriculture New Zealand CEO
- 8:14Speaker 2: Gary Hooper has got up early for us. Good morning
- 8:16Speaker 2: to you.
- 8:16Speaker 9: Gary, Oh, good morning, Andrew, good morning.
- 8:19Speaker 2: So tell me about deep water salmon farming and how
- 8:21Speaker 2: will this money help.
- 8:24Speaker 9: Well, I'm pleased. It was great news yesterday and of
- 8:27Speaker 9: course this is a good news water story in contrary
- 8:30Speaker 9: to what's happening in Wellington. It seems look a wonderful announcement.
- 8:35Speaker 9: Eleven point seven million CO invested in a program. It's
- 8:39Speaker 9: a five year program. The total program's twenty nine million
- 8:43Speaker 9: dollars in this with New Zealand King Salmon's Blue Endeavor
- 8:46Speaker 9: project in the top end just just off or seven
- 8:50Speaker 9: kilometers off the northern end of the Marlboro Sounds. And
- 8:54Speaker 9: it is a essentially proof of commercial pilot. And there's
- 8:58Speaker 9: three elements to it. Is the farming system, a new
- 9:03Speaker 9: freshwater hatchery using rast technology, recirculating aguaculture system technology, so
- 9:08Speaker 9: that's novel. And of course is the breeding components as
- 9:13Speaker 9: well to ensure we get the most resilient and productive
- 9:18Speaker 9: fish farms out there. The five hundred million dollar experts,
- 9:24Speaker 9: I think that's pretty conservative. When this system, when this
- 9:29Speaker 9: farm's up and running and there are others in the pipeline,
- 9:34Speaker 9: could be up to fifty or sixty thousand tons in total.
- 9:39Speaker 9: That would when it's all up and running, that would
- 9:41Speaker 9: be well in excess of a billion dollars. So I
- 9:45Speaker 9: think five hundred million by twenty thirty five that's probably conservative,
- 9:49Speaker 9: but also quite realistic.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Well, if you're saying twelve million from the government, thirty
- 9:54Speaker 2: million dollar investments, only a billion dollars coming in. If
- 9:57Speaker 2: it's such a good investment, hasn't the private sector been
- 10:01Speaker 2: getting stuck in?
- 10:03Speaker 9: So this is a pioneering activity and it's it's kind
- 10:09Speaker 9: of new anywhere. You know, the handful of countries that
- 10:13Speaker 9: are fortunate enough to be able to farm salmon because
- 10:15Speaker 9: of their you know, they have appropriate water conditions, et cetera.
- 10:18Speaker 9: Traditionally it's been in sheltered, enclosed waters. The move to
- 10:25Speaker 9: salmon farming, expansion of salmon farming, and New Zealand's not
- 10:28Speaker 9: the only country with ambitions, but likely future growth is
- 10:32Speaker 9: to be in the open water. Conditions are you know,
- 10:38Speaker 9: obviously more energized out there, and new systems need to
- 10:42Speaker 9: be developed to achieve that are not without Sorry, it
- 10:48Speaker 9: has its challenges, and look the reason the government is
- 10:52Speaker 9: getting behind it not only is that the export growth opportunity,
- 10:58Speaker 9: but the experience and the learnings, the you know, the
- 11:05Speaker 9: systems that will be developed can be passed on to
- 11:09Speaker 9: other entrants. And bear in mind one of the quite
- 11:16Speaker 9: unique situations that New Zealand has is any new aquaculture.
- 11:21Speaker 9: So any new aquaculture has a commercial mari commercial agriculture
- 11:27Speaker 9: settlement component. So in many ways e we are hardwired
- 11:30Speaker 9: into the opportunity and so that's kind of a unique
- 11:35Speaker 9: element too. And anything that we can help de risk
- 11:38Speaker 9: that and accelerate the development has to be a good thing.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Well, we love an increase in exports, don't we. Gary Hooper,
- 11:45Speaker 2: who's from aquaculture in New Zealand, he's the CEO, thank
- 11:47Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. I am horrified, as
- 11:49Speaker 2: you already know, about what happened down in Wellington about
- 11:51Speaker 2: the water. So what's going to happen going forward? We're
- 11:53Speaker 2: going to talk to the plot of m mare in
- 11:55Speaker 2: just a moment. It's twenty past five.
- 11:57Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
- 12:02Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make your property search simple.
- 12:06Speaker 1: You talk said be It is.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Five twenty two. So councils in Wellington are furious. I'm
- 12:11Speaker 2: furious with a new scathing report into Wellington Water, just
- 12:14Speaker 2: as we thought the agency couldn't get any worse. The
- 12:17Speaker 2: report found alleged theft, poor value for money from contractors,
- 12:21Speaker 2: and major structural issues. In fact, it says the Lower
- 12:24Speaker 2: North Island rate payers have coughed up three times what
- 12:27Speaker 2: it should have cost to fix the pipes. So Anita
- 12:30Speaker 2: Baker is the Polarua mayor and joins me now coccording
- 12:32Speaker 2: to you, Anita.
- 12:33Speaker 10: Good morning.
- 12:34Speaker 2: How was this allowed to happen?
- 12:37Speaker 6: Not just bloody?
- 12:37Speaker 10: Is shocking the internal systems that Wellington Water with the
- 12:40Speaker 10: competitive tendering process a complete jackaup just just disgrace.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Yep.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Let's remember that last year Wellington Water revealed a fifty
- 12:51Speaker 2: one million dollar budget error. Remember that, of course you do.
- 12:54Speaker 2: It seems like the whole organization has been a clown show.
- 12:57Speaker 10: It certainly feels like that, and I have to think
- 13:00Speaker 10: the new ce pet Dockerty and netlegates are running this
- 13:03Speaker 10: report and finding out these processes. Once that new CEE
- 13:06Speaker 10: came into place, staff just came out of the woodwork
- 13:09Speaker 10: with the issues and we've been complaining about the pricing.
- 13:13Speaker 10: And this report is an absolute.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Eye open So staff knew about the issues.
- 13:18Speaker 10: Staff internally had problems and I think just didn't want
- 13:22Speaker 10: to come forward. You know, other people knew things. So
- 13:25Speaker 10: I think that organization has completely changed since pet Dockety
- 13:28Speaker 10: has taken over. We're certainly you know, the processes have
- 13:33Speaker 10: changed and they've got the even even though they didn't
- 13:37Speaker 10: have an IT system, For God's sake, how can do
- 13:39Speaker 10: you not have an IT system that pay roll and
- 13:42Speaker 10: everything else they were relying on contract.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Yes, perhaps they borrowed it because they didn't have enough
- 13:47Speaker 2: money to make their own.
- 13:49Speaker 10: Yes, it was never set up from the start. Wellington
- 13:51Speaker 10: Water was set up to fail from my point of
- 13:53Speaker 10: view all those years ago. Sure, and it has not
- 13:55Speaker 10: been done.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Should Nick le get step down his chair he's offered.
- 14:00Speaker 10: I personally don't think you should. We're a year out
- 14:02Speaker 10: from water reforms. Him and Pat are working exceptionally well together.
- 14:06Speaker 10: We're out for two new directors at the moment. Why
- 14:10Speaker 10: would you push someone who's just just revealed what we
- 14:14Speaker 10: wanted them to come out and tell us there was issues.
- 14:18Speaker 10: I just don't see why you chop the head off
- 14:19Speaker 10: something when they're working well as good as a team
- 14:22Speaker 10: and we need the processes in place to go forward
- 14:25Speaker 10: with water reforms. So personally, I can't see the point.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, because it's not the problems, not
- 14:31Speaker 2: with the head, it's with what's happening at the base.
- 14:33Speaker 2: So you pilot of a city, you're working with Hot City,
- 14:35Speaker 2: Upperhut City, Wellington City and Greater Wellington Regional Councils alongside
- 14:39Speaker 2: EWE Partners on a new model for water services delivery
- 14:42Speaker 2: and that new entity you're hoping to begin in July
- 14:45Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, is this under the local water done well?
- 14:48Speaker 2: And are you looking to pull your ability to borrow
- 14:50Speaker 2: more money so you can thanks the bloody pipes?
- 14:53Speaker 10: You're not wrong because we've got lots of pipes that
- 14:55Speaker 10: need faxing, So yes we are, and water done well
- 14:58Speaker 10: is the only way to SEXU and I think this
- 15:00Speaker 10: proves us.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Oh Anita, I thank you so much. I'm so sorry
- 15:06Speaker 2: and I thank you so much for your time today.
- 15:07Speaker 2: It is shocking, absolutely shocking. It's five twenty six. I'll
- 15:13Speaker 2: tell what else was shocking. We get doctors coming into
- 15:15Speaker 2: this country and they want to work, but they can't
- 15:17Speaker 2: because they can't get training. But finally we've done something
- 15:19Speaker 2: about that. We'll talk about that next the Early.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Edition Full Show podcast on Ironheart Radio powered by NEWSTALKSB.
- 15:27Speaker 2: News Talks B. It is now five twenty seven. So
- 15:31Speaker 2: here's a question for you. How did we manage to
- 15:33Speaker 2: bring in so many people to this country and get
- 15:35Speaker 2: fail to have enough doctors when we get there. This
- 15:39Speaker 2: is the question we've all asked every surge of immigration
- 15:41Speaker 2: we've ever had. There's been many surges of immigration.
- 15:43Speaker 8: I'm one.
- 15:44Speaker 2: I came out in nineteen sixty five with my English
- 15:46Speaker 2: father and my Kiwi mum. There's been many more waves.
- 15:50Speaker 2: We've had millions of people arrive in this country. Have
- 15:53Speaker 2: we had thousands of doctors arrive and start practicing as well?
- 15:56Speaker 1: No, we have not.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Every time we've opened the door, there seems to have
- 15:59Speaker 2: been attitude that will take the immigrants, labor, will take
- 16:02Speaker 2: their money. We'll take all the advantages, but ignore the
- 16:05Speaker 2: consequences of a bigger population. So Simeon Brown's announcement of
- 16:09Speaker 2: a faster a tract to qualifying overseas doctors who come
- 16:11Speaker 2: here is welcome and about time, because our immigration booms
- 16:16Speaker 2: have distorted our society. It swamped our motorways, it puts
- 16:20Speaker 2: strain on housing and infrastructure, and it crushed our service sector,
- 16:24Speaker 2: including doctors. Yet all the money and all the labor
- 16:28Speaker 2: made people think we had a rock star economy, but
- 16:31Speaker 2: that was artificial. If the economy is a rock star,
- 16:34Speaker 2: how come you can't see a doctor. If you can't
- 16:37Speaker 2: see a doctor, is it really rocking? So congratulations to Simeon,
- 16:41Speaker 2: and congratulations to the government for putting some money in
- 16:45Speaker 2: because we need them. And finally we seem to be
- 16:47Speaker 2: realizing that if we bring in more people, we need
- 16:50Speaker 2: to look at the whole picture. Dickens, all right, I
- 16:54Speaker 2: might talk about Ukraine. Finally, it seems like everyone's going
- 16:57Speaker 2: to get what they want in the Ukraine Seas fire deal.
- 16:59Speaker 2: So that's to come. This a big old cyclone heading Australia,
- 17:02Speaker 2: So Donald Demayo is on the way. We'll go right
- 17:04Speaker 2: around the country as well, and we'll talk to dr
- 17:06Speaker 2: Angus Chambers about these changes to the doctors before six o'clock.
- 17:10Speaker 2: This is Early Edition. I'm Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Thank you for choosing us.
- 17:40Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
- 17:43Speaker 1: Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one Ruth Make your
- 17:47Speaker 1: property search simple. You've talked, Sibby said together.
- 18:06Speaker 2: That's a little size to what happened yesterday at the Oscars.
- 18:08Speaker 2: It was a tribute to Bond. That's the Adel song
- 18:11Speaker 2: being performed by the British singer Ray. That is a
- 18:14Speaker 2: sky fall. It was a wonderful tribute to Bond. However
- 18:17Speaker 2: a little bit of sweet really, you have to say,
- 18:19Speaker 2: because Bond has been brought by Amazon and its future
- 18:22Speaker 2: is uncertain. So there were some people going, yeah, yeah,
- 18:24Speaker 2: this is nice. But at the same time, what is
- 18:26Speaker 2: going to happen to James Bond in the future. But
- 18:28Speaker 2: that's a great question. It is twenty three to six
- 18:31Speaker 2: now some Texan on Wellington Jack reckins. The police should
- 18:34Speaker 2: be called it and people held to account in Wellington.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Roy says, if you talk to any competent plumbing company,
- 18:40Speaker 2: they knew that there was a huge walk going on
- 18:42Speaker 2: in Wellington. Well why didn't they blow the whistle. I
- 18:44Speaker 2: have to say now on my comments about the doctors
- 18:48Speaker 2: and immigration and the rock star economy, we've got a
- 18:51Speaker 2: text here that says rock star economy only ever a
- 18:54Speaker 2: pathetic media expression and never close to reality. The media
- 18:58Speaker 2: in general should be ashamed. Well, I know exactly who
- 19:01Speaker 2: said rockstar economy and it was a guy called Paul Bloxham.
- 19:04Speaker 2: And I know this because I've spoken to him about it,
- 19:06Speaker 2: and he is the senior economist at HSBC in Sydney
- 19:10Speaker 2: and an expert on New Zealand. And he was the
- 19:12Speaker 2: one who said rockstar economy. And you know what the
- 19:14Speaker 2: media did, Shame on us. We reported it.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens twenty three to six.
- 19:20Speaker 2: Le's go around the country. Calum bruct good morning to
- 19:22Speaker 2: you morning, Andrew. So there was a murder at Lake
- 19:24Speaker 2: Harware and now a man is in court.
- 19:27Speaker 11: That's right, charged with murdering his wife at this property.
- 19:30Speaker 11: He will reappear in court today, a case which has
- 19:34Speaker 11: a lot of attention here. Andrew's sixty year old Karen
- 19:36Speaker 11: White was found dead at her home almost a year
- 19:38Speaker 11: ago to the day. Police launched a homicide investigation. Eight
- 19:42Speaker 11: months later, last November, her husband's sixty one year old
- 19:46Speaker 11: Robert White lost name suppression at a court appearance last month.
- 19:50Speaker 11: He's pleaded not guilty to the murder charge and reappears
- 19:53Speaker 11: in the Cargoles High Court today.
- 19:55Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather?
- 19:57Speaker 11: Early showers clear, but then return this afternoon some maybe
- 20:00Speaker 11: heavy the heights of Day eighteen.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood joins us in Christier Tella Claire.
- 20:05Speaker 8: Hello, Claire, good morning.
- 20:07Speaker 12: Can you hear me?
- 20:08Speaker 9: I can?
- 20:08Speaker 2: Indeed? Gee, I wish I was in Christich. Actually I
- 20:10Speaker 2: saw on the telly the building the squash court at
- 20:13Speaker 2: the Isaac Royal for the Squash Championships New Zealand Squash Championships.
- 20:16Speaker 2: It looks awesome.
- 20:17Speaker 13: It does look awesome. Andrew, look, this is really special
- 20:20Speaker 13: for the city. We've got, of course, that iconic Isaac
- 20:22Speaker 13: Theatre Royal and it's hosting the New Zealand Squash Open
- 20:25Speaker 13: for the next six days. So that glass court has
- 20:28Speaker 13: been fitted out on the stage of the theater for
- 20:31Speaker 13: this inaugural event. The theatre's chief executive, Greg Ward has
- 20:35Speaker 13: told us they're still focused on performing arts, but also
- 20:38Speaker 13: on reaching a broader audience, and this is one of
- 20:40Speaker 13: the ways to do that. He says this is the
- 20:42Speaker 13: sort of event that will open the door to many
- 20:44Speaker 13: people who may not have been to the theatre before,
- 20:47Speaker 13: or not seen it in this light anyway. He says
- 20:50Speaker 13: there is the potential for more sporting events like this
- 20:52Speaker 13: to take place in the future.
- 20:54Speaker 2: Yes, a nice seats at a really good snack bar
- 20:56Speaker 2: and a great place to watch sports squash and I
- 20:58Speaker 2: understand the final session almost sold out. So there we go.
- 21:01Speaker 2: How's your weather, Well, it's.
- 21:02Speaker 13: Pretty miserable here today. Rain will clear to occasional showers
- 21:06Speaker 13: a bit later. South westerlies as we make our way
- 21:08Speaker 13: to sixteen.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Next toll joins us from Willington.
- 21:11Speaker 8: Hellm X, Good morning.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Got a new rainbow crossing?
- 21:14Speaker 14: Yeah, so a Wellington's Pride Festival begins this week. We
- 21:18Speaker 14: have been and still are a very gay friendly city.
- 21:22Speaker 14: There's a rainbow crossing on Cuba Street, of course. And
- 21:24Speaker 14: now what's just appeared is a smaller but still very
- 21:28Speaker 14: noticeable crossing in the suburb of Brempoor and it's actually
- 21:32Speaker 14: in the colors of the trans flag. We assume the
- 21:34Speaker 14: council had installed it. So went to them. At first
- 21:36Speaker 14: they said, well, firstly it wasn't them. Instead a piece
- 21:40Speaker 14: of a gorilla art, so they will have to remove
- 21:43Speaker 14: it in line with their graffiti policy, which is fair enough.
- 21:46Speaker 14: Then a spokesperson told us in a follow up email,
- 21:49Speaker 14: hang on hold a tick on that one. Someone was
- 21:53Speaker 14: clearly deliberating or weighing in. We waited a few hours
- 21:56Speaker 14: and then it was confirmed, Yes, this crossing will be removed.
- 22:00Speaker 14: We don't yet know who painted it, and it puts
- 22:02Speaker 14: the council in a tricky spot because obviously it doesn't
- 22:04Speaker 14: want to be seen as bigoted by removing a transcolored
- 22:08Speaker 14: rainbow crossing. But at the same time, last year, when
- 22:11Speaker 14: pro Palestine graffiti appeared, there was a push by the
- 22:14Speaker 14: mayor and others to keep it around the city as
- 22:17Speaker 14: a form of art, despite that being against the council's policy.
- 22:21Speaker 14: So we'll see if there's any pushback here.
- 22:23Speaker 2: How's your weather?
- 22:24Speaker 14: It should be terrible today. Shawer's turning to rain, possibly
- 22:28Speaker 14: thundery this afternoon with strong southerly's.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Never read amano from Walkinhello meetings. So you've got details
- 22:34Speaker 2: about a cold case murder, yes, this.
- 22:36Speaker 12: Cold case, So police hoping the public can shed some
- 22:39Speaker 12: light on this cold case murder of a man described
- 22:42Speaker 12: as a typical WESTI Now it's Brett Fraser. He died
- 22:45Speaker 12: at the hands of intruders at a property in West
- 22:47Speaker 12: Hawkin's Colston. This happened in twenty fourteen. Now police are
- 22:51Speaker 12: now offering a one hundred thousand dollars reward for any
- 22:53Speaker 12: information leading to the capture of the fifty one year
- 22:56Speaker 12: old's killers. His former partner, that's Michelle Manson. Now she's
- 23:00Speaker 12: told TV one's Cold Case this was extra hard really
- 23:03Speaker 12: because he seemed to be more motivated to break out
- 23:05Speaker 12: of his bad habits. And she says it was just
- 23:08Speaker 12: said that he died just as he was looking to
- 23:09Speaker 12: get his life back together. So if you've got any
- 23:12Speaker 12: information from this cold case back in twenty fourteen, contact
- 23:14Speaker 12: the police.
- 23:15Speaker 2: How's the weather cloudy?
- 23:16Speaker 12: Isolated, Charles aroal midday, becoming frequently heavy for a time
- 23:19Speaker 12: in the evening, not as.
- 23:20Speaker 8: Cold as the South Island. Twenty four is the high
- 23:22Speaker 8: today in Auckland's.
- 23:23Speaker 2: And I thank you. It is now eighteen minutes to six.
- 23:25Speaker 2: I'm just watching Sekia Stana. He's talking to the British
- 23:27Speaker 2: Parliament right now. He says that Britain will leave from
- 23:29Speaker 2: the front in the Ukraine. He's also gone out and
- 23:32Speaker 2: to say the minerals deal would never have provided enough
- 23:35Speaker 2: security for Ukraine, which is why Britain and Europe has
- 23:38Speaker 2: to stand up. You know what, whether it's by luck
- 23:40Speaker 2: or design, everyone seems to be getting what they want
- 23:43Speaker 2: in this Ceasfare deal. As Zelenski has said yesterday, he
- 23:46Speaker 2: will sign the minerals deal because he finally got some
- 23:49Speaker 2: security guarantees. But he got those guarantees from Europe. Now, Europe,
- 23:53Speaker 2: they were kicked into action by Trump and Vance's bullying
- 23:56Speaker 2: of Zelenski. Maybe that was America's plan, Maybe it wasn't.
- 24:01Speaker 2: I don't care. It worked, Europe stepped up. Now America
- 24:04Speaker 2: gets its minerals but loses well respect.
- 24:06Speaker 8: But there we go.
- 24:07Speaker 2: And while I understand America's view on a commercialized DMZ
- 24:11Speaker 2: bringing peace to Ukraine, the idea would never have held water.
- 24:14Speaker 2: That's what Kirstarma just said, because it takes time to
- 24:17Speaker 2: launch the mining and even once it starts, there's no
- 24:20Speaker 2: telling it'll be whether it'll be economic, whether the companies
- 24:23Speaker 2: will be there, whether they will prevent Russia from invading.
- 24:26Speaker 2: That's why Zelenski needed something more concrete, just to feel safe,
- 24:29Speaker 2: and presumably Putin will get some Ukrainian land, but Ukraine
- 24:33Speaker 2: won't keep its twenty fourteen borders. And anyway, Putin's going
- 24:36Speaker 2: to sit there and platter his next Foray, and there
- 24:39Speaker 2: will be another Foray. Ukraine was the home of a
- 24:42Speaker 2: ARUs people who form the Russian nation, and he wants
- 24:45Speaker 2: it back. It's in his heart, it's in his soul,
- 24:47Speaker 2: it's his grad mission. Even if Ukraine has moved on,
- 24:51Speaker 2: Putin wants it back. So this is a war that
- 24:53Speaker 2: will echo on into the future. God bless all of
- 24:55Speaker 2: those who find themselves in the middle of it. We'll
- 24:58Speaker 2: talk more overseas stuff with Donald Demayev from Australia.
- 25:00Speaker 9: Next.
- 25:01Speaker 2: It's coming up sixteen to.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
- 25:06Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
- 25:10Speaker 2: And we now crossed to Australia. Donna to my all.
- 25:13Speaker 2: The time, by the way, is fourteen to six. Hello Donna.
- 25:16Speaker 9: Hello.
- 25:16Speaker 2: So we've got a prominent ex football player who's joined
- 25:19Speaker 2: a class action against the AFL, the National Football League.
- 25:23Speaker 2: This alleged that he's alleging racial abuse.
- 25:27Speaker 15: Yes, well, we already knew that the AFL was facing
- 25:31Speaker 15: legal action, but now we know that this prominent former
- 25:33Speaker 15: player has joined the class action. Lawyers have confirmed that
- 25:37Speaker 15: its former since killed a star and I'm calling him
- 25:41Speaker 15: a true, true superstar of the footy world. Nicki Winmar.
- 25:45Speaker 15: Now he's joined the action, and this is very significant.
- 25:48Speaker 15: The AFL is being sued by indigenous players, including Phil
- 25:51Speaker 15: and James Cracker. Now this it's alleged they suffered injury,
- 25:55Speaker 15: loss and damage after the organization failed to protect them
- 25:59Speaker 15: from racial abuse. Now Windma is now fifty nine years old,
- 26:03Speaker 15: but it was about three decades ago. I think it
- 26:05Speaker 15: was nineteen ninety three. In fact, he was at the
- 26:07Speaker 15: center of an iconic moment and it's still discussed to
- 26:10Speaker 15: this day. And he was on the field and he
- 26:13Speaker 15: lifted his footage jumper and he pointed to his skin
- 26:17Speaker 15: while he was being racially abused by opposition team fans.
- 26:21Speaker 15: He was playing Collingwood at the time, so killed her
- 26:24Speaker 15: versus Collingwood. Now there's an unspecified number of Indigenous players
- 26:29Speaker 15: in the class action, and now we know that Nicki
- 26:31Speaker 15: Winmar has joined it. They've been given two months to
- 26:34Speaker 15: build the case.
- 26:35Speaker 8: And I will add that it was in.
- 26:37Speaker 15: Twenty twenty three that Collingwood. I'm going to say finally
- 26:41Speaker 15: apologized to Winma.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Okay, now you've got a tropical cyclone getting close to
- 26:45Speaker 2: Queensland and it's called Alfred.
- 26:48Speaker 15: Yes, brace yourselves Queensland residents, because it's due to landfall
- 26:53Speaker 15: this week sometime on Thursday or Friday. Brisbane might even
- 26:57Speaker 15: feel the brunt of this tropical cyclone. And of course
- 27:00Speaker 15: there's the possibility of destructive wings and life threatening flash flooding.
- 27:05Speaker 15: Now it could be upgraded to a category to eighty minute,
- 27:09Speaker 15: and of course if it maintains that intensity as it
- 27:11Speaker 15: approaches the southeast Queensland coast, it could do quite a
- 27:16Speaker 15: lot of damage. In fact, we've heard from the Bureau
- 27:18Speaker 15: of Minteorology issuing a warning that there could be house damage,
- 27:22Speaker 15: significant damage to trees and signs and caravans. Of course,
- 27:26Speaker 15: there's the risk of power failure and the even fearing
- 27:29Speaker 15: that there could be some damage to crops. Wings gus
- 27:31Speaker 15: up to one hundred and sixty four kilometers per hour.
- 27:34Speaker 2: Okay, it's been a fairly calm somemer. You have to say, really,
- 27:37Speaker 2: but here we go, here we go, Here we go.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Donna Demayo, I thank you said very much. It's eleven
- 27:41Speaker 2: to six. So the new Health Minister, Simeon Brown, has
- 27:45Speaker 2: begun making moves to try and save our deteriorating healthcare system.
- 27:48Speaker 2: So yesterday he announced two hundred and eighty five million
- 27:52Speaker 2: dollars in performance based funding for GPS, a new twenty
- 27:56Speaker 2: four to seven digital service, and an additional one hundred
- 27:59Speaker 2: place for overseas trained doctors. So to talk us through
- 28:02Speaker 2: all of this, we've got Jempro chaired doctor Angus Chambers
- 28:05Speaker 2: with me. Hello, Angus, good morning. Is just what you
- 28:08Speaker 2: were having to get.
- 28:11Speaker 6: Look, it's a good start. We applaud the efforts to
- 28:14Speaker 6: address the what is basically crisis in general practice, but
- 28:19Speaker 6: I'm not quite sure if it's going to achieve what
- 28:20Speaker 6: they want want it to.
- 28:22Speaker 2: Yeah, what's this performance based funding for GPS? How would
- 28:25Speaker 2: that increase primary care? Yeah?
- 28:29Speaker 6: Well, look it's talented as you know. Funding that will
- 28:33Speaker 6: decrease the wait time to see GPS. Government commissioned an
- 28:38Speaker 6: independent body to kind of serve a GP and report
- 28:42Speaker 6: back to us and it found there's basically a gap
- 28:44Speaker 6: about one hundred and thirty seven million dollars a year
- 28:47Speaker 6: and this is on data five years old.
- 28:49Speaker 9: It needed to.
- 28:52Speaker 6: Enable general practice deliver what it needs to. So this
- 28:55Speaker 6: is basically ninety five million dollars a year. Probably the
- 28:57Speaker 6: figure that was one hundred and thirty seven is close
- 28:59Speaker 6: to two hundred now, so it's maybe about half of
- 29:02Speaker 6: what's needed. And then the performance based funding is quite
- 29:06Speaker 6: concerning and general practices, iiron large independent businesses performing extremely well.
- 29:13Speaker 6: Now if you let's say, the one of the big
- 29:17Speaker 6: issues is the closed books. So if you put there's
- 29:21Speaker 6: a part of your performance, and practices open their books
- 29:24Speaker 6: to get more money, so there's no extra workforce, there
- 29:27Speaker 6: more patients going in, the wait time is going to
- 29:29Speaker 6: get longer. So it's not quite clear until we see
- 29:32Speaker 6: the detail of the performance at money, how it's going
- 29:36Speaker 6: to play out.
- 29:37Speaker 2: It could possibly incentivize them just to slam their way
- 29:40Speaker 2: through clients quicker.
- 29:43Speaker 6: Well, I think private business does that anyway. That's that's
- 29:45Speaker 6: that's why general practice that's quite efficient because there's a
- 29:49Speaker 6: business imperative. But I don't think gps are actually lazy
- 29:51Speaker 6: and sort of sitting around having captive tea and champagne.
- 29:54Speaker 6: They're actually head down working really hard. And by the way,
- 29:57Speaker 6: when you when you when you spend your day seeing patients,
- 30:00Speaker 6: you've still got several outs at the end of the
- 30:02Speaker 6: day that you need to do the paperwork.
- 30:05Speaker 2: So yeah, not not clear, Yeah exactly, But it's still
- 30:07Speaker 2: performance based funding, so they're going to be ranked whether
- 30:09Speaker 2: they like it or not. Now, look, we all know
- 30:11Speaker 2: doctors who have come here who can't work because we
- 30:14Speaker 2: didn't provide enough training opportunities. One hundred placements for overseas
- 30:18Speaker 2: trained doctors will come into place. How did we ever
- 30:20Speaker 2: allow that imbalance to happen while we had high immigration figures.
- 30:26Speaker 6: Look, I don't know. We're pleased to see it happen.
- 30:29Speaker 6: It will make some difference. It's going to take a
- 30:31Speaker 6: bit of time. It's got a lot of work that
- 30:32Speaker 6: goes into getting those doctors to the place that they
- 30:36Speaker 6: need to be to deliver care to New Zealand's population.
- 30:39Speaker 6: You'd have to ask the workforce planners about that. There's
- 30:41Speaker 6: been abject failure in workforce planning in our system for
- 30:45Speaker 6: quite a long time. We've been warning for almost two
- 30:48Speaker 6: decades of the crunch of retiring gps and impoundered by
- 30:52Speaker 6: the fact that people are leaving the profession of some conditions.
- 30:56Speaker 6: So I think of as a question better addressed to
- 30:58Speaker 6: the workforce planners the answer so I don't know.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Okay, well, but you know what people say. They go, well,
- 31:04Speaker 2: you've got an English doctor who decides to come to
- 31:06Speaker 2: New Zealand and make a new life. They come here
- 31:08Speaker 2: and then they're told they can't they can't actually do
- 31:11Speaker 2: any services for us for at least two years. They've
- 31:13Speaker 2: got to go through a training placement if they can
- 31:15Speaker 2: actually find a room there. And everyone says, well, hold on,
- 31:18Speaker 2: and English body is just the same as New Zealand bodies.
- 31:22Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's where I think you might have
- 31:23Speaker 6: this wrong. The English doctors are able to come and
- 31:26Speaker 6: practice like that, although we would like this, obviously, bureaucracy
- 31:29Speaker 6: is so that these doctors are outside of jurisdictions that
- 31:33Speaker 6: are recognized by the Medical Council. So yeah, we're absolutely
- 31:37Speaker 6: propped by and popped up by English doctors who've got
- 31:40Speaker 6: a fantastic contribution by English doctors. So I got going.
- 31:44Speaker 2: I admitted I got my metaphor wrong, but you know
- 31:46Speaker 2: what I mean. A body's a body, a doctor's a doctor.
- 31:48Speaker 8: But there we go.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Now we've got one hundred extraplacement for overseas training doctors
- 31:53Speaker 2: to go in and find out how to be a
- 31:54Speaker 2: New Zealand doctor and that is a good thing. Don't
- 31:57Speaker 2: they ever look a gift horse in the mouth. It
- 31:58Speaker 2: is seven to six.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Andrew dickens all Afili edition with one roof Make Your
- 32:04Speaker 1: Property Search Simple, Youth Talk zibby.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Yes, it's now five to six. On the Wellington water scandal.
- 32:10Speaker 2: Earlier today I talked about the contractors and the people
- 32:13Speaker 2: who fleeced the Wellington right players and I compared them
- 32:16Speaker 2: to the Sopranos with their war of public money. And
- 32:19Speaker 2: I've had a text from Roy saying Andrew, I wouldn't
- 32:21Speaker 2: call them the Sopranos. The Sopranos is a great show,
- 32:23Speaker 2: not a bunch of neglecting wreckers. They can't even fix
- 32:26Speaker 2: water fair point. What's horrified me most this morning was
- 32:29Speaker 2: hearing from Anita Baker, the part of Mayor, who said
- 32:32Speaker 2: that staff came forward to the inquiry because they knew
- 32:36Speaker 2: that there was already a problem. And Bruce has sent
- 32:39Speaker 2: me a text saying, anybody who's been part of pipes
- 32:42Speaker 2: in Wellington, any plumber, could have told you for years
- 32:46Speaker 2: that there was a huge walk going on and yet
- 32:48Speaker 2: nothing happened. So ierhaps see something will happen Mike Costkin, good,
- 32:51Speaker 2: wouldn't you.
- 32:52Speaker 8: Very good morning? Best thing? Yesterday? It was one of
- 32:55Speaker 8: those things I thought to myself, why haven't we done
- 32:57Speaker 8: this years ago?
- 32:58Speaker 16: So this health thing where you get more doctors and
- 33:00Speaker 16: nurses and things like that, all of that's fine. But
- 33:03Speaker 16: this idea that you can go online using the internet
- 33:08Speaker 16: and you can get yourself a script at eleven o'clock
- 33:10Speaker 16: at n I've always I've never understood why people get
- 33:14Speaker 16: so precious about that sort of thing. If you've been
- 33:16Speaker 16: on pills for twenty years or whatever the case may be,
- 33:18Speaker 16: it's just another script, you know what I mean.
- 33:19Speaker 8: So if you can get to a nurse or a
- 33:21Speaker 8: doctor at eleven o'clock or ten o'clock or seven fifteen
- 33:23Speaker 8: that night.
- 33:24Speaker 2: My doctor has managed my health portal. And I've been
- 33:27Speaker 2: taking bood pressure of medication since i was twenty because
- 33:30Speaker 2: I've inherited it from a mum bless and I just
- 33:33Speaker 2: go on and just get a repeat on that, and
- 33:35Speaker 2: it turns up at the pharmacy the next day my doctor.
- 33:39Speaker 8: I'm went to the doctor the other day. First of all,
- 33:40Speaker 8: I have no problem getting to the doctor.
- 33:42Speaker 16: Second of all, the place I go to is hiring
- 33:45Speaker 16: doctors and has doctors and has their books open.
- 33:48Speaker 8: So if you ask me, there is no problem. So
- 33:52Speaker 8: is there a problem or not?
- 33:53Speaker 2: I think we're just to disorganize people some of us.
- 33:56Speaker 9: Is that what it is?
- 33:56Speaker 8: I don't know anyway, So we'll talk to bet.
- 33:58Speaker 16: If I knew the answers to your question, well, that
- 34:00Speaker 16: is I run the country. That's true, which I show
- 34:02Speaker 16: you people running the country.
- 34:03Speaker 8: He's with us.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Oh, yes, Christopher Laxon. After seven thirty, I'm Andrew Dickins.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Thank you to producer Kenzie.
- 34:08Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge.
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